Skincare 101

Summary

Podcast Summary: The blondEST – Episode: "Skincare 101"

Host: Savanna Boda
Release Date: December 16, 2024
Podcast Description: Savanna Boda, known as The Dallas Aesthetician, is a Medical Aesthetician specializing in ethical, results-driven aesthetics. Trained under top Dallas plastic surgeons and dermatologists, Savanna integrates holistic therapies with medical aesthetics to provide an inclusive skincare experience. Her Instagram, boasting a cult following of over 300k, serves as a platform to educate followers, clients, and fellow estheticians on all things skincare. The blondEST podcast marries her social media charisma with her skincare expertise.

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Introduction: Setting the Stage

The episode kicks off with Savanna (Speaker A) and her co-host (Speaker B) playfully announcing the start of "class," setting a lively and informal tone. Their humorous banter immediately engages listeners, making the educational content approachable and entertaining.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [00:05]: "What up, bitches? Class in session."

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Cleansing: The Foundation of Skincare

Savanna emphasizes the paramount importance of cleansing in any skincare regimen, asserting it accounts for 50% of the effectiveness, second only to sunscreen.

• Types of Cleansers:
  • Crema/Cream Cleansers: Ideal for dry skin.
  • Foaming Cleansers: Best suited for oily skin.
  • Oil Cleansers: Effective for makeup removal and suitable for all skin types.

Savanna shares her personal transformation in cleansing routines, transitioning from skepticism about cleansing gels to becoming a staunch advocate after witnessing their efficacy firsthand.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [05:14]: "Cleansing is the most important step of your entire regimen. Besides Sunscreen, it is 50% of your regimen."

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Double Cleansing: Sweeping and Mopping Analogies

The duo delves into the concept of double cleansing, using relatable analogies to illustrate its significance.

• First Cleanse (Sweeping): Removes surface-level debris, dirt, and grime.
• Second Cleanse (Mopping): Provides a deep clean, targeting pores and ensuring a spotless canvas for subsequent skincare products.

Savanna highlights her preferred products, such as the Cleansing Gel from Skin Butter for its superior makeup removal capabilities and the Refining Foam Cleanser as her go-to second cleanse for enhanced clarity and vibrancy.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [08:29]: "I would argue it's more important than some of the serums you're using on your skin. I mean, if you're starting off your regimen wrong, how can it go up from there?"

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Sunscreen: Shielding Your Skin

Sunscreen is portrayed as the most critical step in the skincare routine. The discussion covers the different types of sunscreens and dispels common myths.

• Types of Sunscreens:
  • Mineral Sunscreens: Contain zinc oxide; traditionally viewed as blockers that reflect UV rays.
  • Chemical Sunscreens: Absorb UV rays and convert them into heat.
  • Hybrid Sunscreens: Combine both mineral and chemical ingredients.

Recent studies indicate that mineral sunscreens can be absorbed into the skin to some extent, challenging the long-held belief that they merely sit on the surface. Environmental concerns, particularly coral bleaching associated with certain chemical sunscreens, are also addressed.

Savanna advises choosing the sunscreen that best fits your lifestyle and skin type, emphasizing consistency in application over the specific type.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [13:45]: "Sunscreen, the most important step in your regimen. And if you're not doing it, it's like, it's like eating chips without guac."

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Exfoliation: Renewing the Skin

The conversation shifts to exfoliation, detailing its various forms and benefits.

• Types of Exfoliation:
  • Physical Exfoliation: Involves scrubs or tools like the Clarisonic or Foreo, which mechanically remove dead skin cells.
  • Chemical Exfoliation: Utilizes alpha hydroxy acids (AHAs) like glycolic and lactic acid, and beta hydroxy acids (BHAs) like salicylic acid, to dissolve dead skin cells.
  • Enzymatic Exfoliation: Employs natural enzymes from fruits like papaya and pineapple to gently remove dead skin cells.

Savanna advocates for chemical exfoliation as her preferred method due to its effectiveness and gentleness, suitable for daily use without causing excessive irritation.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [26:10]: "I like chemical exfoliation the best. Alpha peel pads all day, baby."

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Personal Insights and Humorous Anecdotes

Throughout the episode, Savanna and her co-host interweave personal stories and humor, making the technical content more relatable.

• Savanna shares her early struggles with skincare during esthetician school, including misconceptions about cleanser types and personal experiences with beta testing new products.

• Humorous exchanges about product names and pronunciation add levity, keeping the audience engaged while reinforcing key skincare concepts.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [16:00]: "When I was bigger and had bigger boobs and I was botched lip filler, I thought I was that girl. I loved myself so much."

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Final Thoughts: Building a Strong Skincare Foundation

In concluding the episode, Savanna reiterates the importance of foundational skincare steps—cleansing and sunscreen—before layering on additional treatments. She underscores that even the most luxurious serums and treatments cannot compensate for a flawed base regimen.

Notable Quote:

Savanna [26:18]: "If you didn't learn or laugh, get off my platform. I'm just kidding. No, we love you guys."

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Conclusion

"Skincare 101" serves as a comprehensive guide for both beginners and seasoned skincare enthusiasts. Through a blend of expert advice, personal anecdotes, and humor, Savanna Boda effectively demystifies essential skincare practices, empowering listeners to build robust and effective skincare routines.

Key Takeaways:

• Prioritize Cleansing and Sunscreen: These steps are foundational to any effective skincare regimen.
• Understand Different Products: Choose cleansers and sunscreens that align with your skin type and lifestyle.
• Incorporate Exfoliation Wisely: Utilize physical, chemical, or enzymatic exfoliants based on your skin's needs.
• Stay Informed and Consistent: Consistency in skincare practices yields the best results over time.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

What up, bitches? Class in session.

[B]

Class is in session.

[A]

I can't say that.

[B]

Seriously, Class is in session.

[A]

Class is in fucking session.

[B]

Grab your notepads, grab your pens.

[A]

Leave your kids at home. Hide your wife. Unless you are the wife.

[B]

Silence your phone. Well, I guess we're probably on your phone, so don't silence us.

[A]

No, but put do not disturb on.

[B]

We're gonna be going back to the basics today.

[A]

Yep. So if you're a skincare newbie or if you think you know it all, we're about to school you.

[B]

Well, she's about to school you. I'm just gonna be in the background, like, yeah, yeah, buddy.

[A]

This is gonna be a multi part episode because we are just gonna scratch the little surface today.

[B]

And I think, you know, last week with John is a good. Was a good, like, little. A teaser for, you know, what you don't learn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In esthetician school.

[A]

Are you okay? Do you have a hard time getting that out? Let's try it one more time.

[B]

I was gonna say aesthetic school.

[A]

Aesthetician school.

[B]

Yeah. And so it just.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Leave me alone.

[A]

Take a shot. If you've been talking to a guy and they're like, so you're an anesthesiologist or you're an electrician, One of them.

[B]

Is better than the other, what would you say?

[A]

You've gotten more electrician, which is really sad. I'm like, do I look like a fucking electrician? Maybe back then I did.

[B]

No, I don't think you've ever looked like an electrician. If you showed up on my door as an electrician, would you think I.

[A]

Was a prostitute before an electrician?

[B]

No, I would just be like, my shit's gonna be more broke than it was before you were here.

[A]

That's so mean.

[B]

Am I wrong?

[A]

I feel like if I studied, okay, maybe and I learned how to be a good electrician, I'd fucking do good.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

But like, right off the bat, probably not. Like, if you just had me try to fix something now, I would blow your house up. Okay, so today, let's start. I think we should start with dun dun, dun. Dunna. The first step, which is cleansing. Let's get into it. So this is something that perplexed me quite a bit when I was, you know, just dabbling in skincare and trying to get things done. I'm like, what cleansers? For me, you know, I assume just creamy cleansers were for, like really dry skin. And then foamy cleansers were just kind of like, run of the mill. And then foaming was for like oily skin. And then oil cleanser really was not a thing.

[B]

It was for makeup.

[A]

No, not even.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I mean, I cannot remember. I feel like the first time I ever heard of an oil cleanser was when I was in aesthetic school with. I want to say prelude, but that's not pre cleanse. Dermalogica. Pre cleanse.

[B]

I don't know. Dermalogic.

[A]

Dermalogical, pre cleanse. Wow, that took me back. I now want to go smell that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. And the daily microfoliant.

[B]

There may still be some dermalogica at your parents house.

[A]

Oh, for sure. There's a graveyard. So cleansing. Cleansing is the most important step of your entire regimen. Besides Sunscreen, it is 50% of your regimen. If you're not starting with a good clean slate, you're not going to get the best results. If you are not, you know, clearing your skin with all of the congestion, dead skin cells, makeup, and you're trying to apply products. First and foremost, guys, your skin is not a sponge. I wish I could scream this from the rooftops. It is more of a shield. Our skin is to protect us. Keep out foreign invaders, pollutants, damage, etc. Our skin is not a sponge. And that's why I hate when people are like so old school. Which. Ask your doctor. Don't come for me about retinoids. Like, oh, it's going to get in the bloodstream. Like a very small percentage. Yeah, maybe. But most of the stuff y'all are using is literally sitting on top of your skin and not really getting to where it needs to go. So you don't need to worry about your child. They'll be okay. But ask your doctor.

[B]

Second of all, that was not medical advice.

[A]

I will never give medical advice.

[B]

Just putting that.

[A]

Although it was so funny when we were in Dubai, they, for some reason, I don't know who the fuck told them I was a doctor. And they put like on a banner like, Dr. Savannah Boda. And it was like an inside joke of like me doing my md.

[B]

Yeah, they were like the John who was on last week and was like, oh, congratulations on getting your dog your doctorate.

[A]

Yeah, I was like, oh, well, I'm not. Literally don't even have a college degree, so. Not me, bitch. I didn't even finish a fucking semester.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[A]

Well, wait, what's the thing after a semester, like a season? Like, if I did a year and.

[B]

A half, two years as an associates.

[A]

That'S what I was thinking of. Yeah, I didn't get there. Yeah, I was close.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I was a quarter away. Anyway, cleansing is truly the most important step. Again, other than sunscreen and people using makeup wipes. No. First of all, they're bad for the environment. Second of all, they're full of so many stripping alcohols, it's going to prematurely age you. It's going to dehydrate your skin, show more fine lines and wrinkles. It's just not the vibe. So stop, throw them away, and get yourself a good gel cleanser or oil cleanser as your first cleanse. I prefer cleansing gel from skin butter. It actually removes makeup so good. And I remember, like, scoffing at Marlo, which is one of our good friends at the time. She was more of a sales rep. And I was like, ain't no way that this is gonna remove, like, a photo shoot.

[B]

Be like, was I working for you when cleansing gel came out? Because I remember that conversation. Like, I was there for that conversation.

[A]

I think you were. Because they had discontinued the daily enzyme cleanser, and no one really liked it. So, like, bye. But I was like, there's no way.

[B]

Because I remember Marlo coming in and making that claim, and you were like, yeah, fucking right, veg. Like, shut up.

[A]

Yeah. I was like, that's. There's no way. Because I had been using an oil cleanser for so long as my first cleanse. And I do love oil cleansers. Don't get me wrong. I remember going home. It was after a photo shoot. Cause I, like, you know, sometimes reps give me stuff, and I'm like, I don't want to use it right away. I'm happy with what I'm doing. It's honestly the best and worst part of my job is having to, like, use my face to test products. Because it either goes really great or really fucking bad. Like, I hate it.

[B]

And it goes really bad more often than it does.

[A]

Yeah, it goes really bad all the time. I'm like, why am I breaking out? Oh. Cause I fucking am. Having to beta test a new product for my besties. But it's the price we pay for the life we live. But anyway, I washed my face and my jaw dropped. It was like, 10pm I called her, and I was like, what is in this? It's insane. And so I absolutely love using that to remove my makeup. So always your first cleanse, I always say, is, like, sweeping. So you're removing, like, the surface level debris, the dirt, the grime, like, the nasties. Your second Cleanse is which actually thoroughly cleansing your skin and like actually cleaning it, helping with some daily exfoliation which is needed. Everyone shed skin cells a day. Especially if you have acne prone skin, you're shedding more than the average person. So having a gentle daily exfoliation serum is key. And I think people get confused when they're like, oh, there's like an alpha hydroxy acid, which is an exfoliating acid inside my cleanser, then I shouldn't have to exfoliate weekly. And it's just such a different level of exfoliation. Like that's like if you're like, oh, I walked to my car so like I don't need to go to the gym this week. Like that's kind of the same vein, if that makes sense. Like it doesn't replace going to the gym because you walked your dog or whatever walked to your car. So gentle daily exfoliation is just key for all of her skin health. It's going to reveal smoother, brighter skin. It's going to help with some concerns in the skin. Like it's not going to be a heavy hitter like a corrective treatment or you know, corrective serum, but it will help lighten some pigmentation over time. It will help with, you know, any kind of issue you have, texture, wrinkles, et cetera. Now our cleansers like gonna be the thing that moves the needle the most for these stubborn skin concerns. Absolutely not. But the ingredients in there, while they are at a low level, can help and people notice a difference. Especially my favorite right now would be the refining foam cleanser from skin butter. I use that as my second cleanse and I can't tell you how many people have messaged me and said that they just feel less texture, brighter, clearer, just like more vibrant after using it. So cleansing really can change the game. There's so many clients that have an amazing regimen and their cleansers are just not right for their skin. And it just throws everything off balance and really can just really make or break your skincare regimen. I would argue it's more important than some of the serums you're using on your skin. I mean, if you're starting off your regimen wrong, how can it go up from there? Right? It's like if you're building a foundation, a relationship on a bunch of lies, how are you going to have a good relationship?

[B]

You know, you're just the queen of analogies.

[A]

I'm just saying today, babe, it's every day.

[B]

I know, but like in the past, like, three minutes, you've hit, like, seven analogies.

[A]

I fucking love analogies. I want to get a tattoo. This is analogy queen.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

But, you know, you can't start anything off the wrong foot. You have to start every relationship a good way. So your second cleanse is like mopping. Because we think about it if we're sweeping, right? Because if you're just mopping your floor without sweeping it first, you're just moving dirt all around your floor kind of gross. It is gross. So you gotta make sure you're getting it, like, semi clean, you know, like, just doing, like, the grunt work so that you can really get in there and, like, polish and clean it, like, really nicely and get it sparkling. And so your second cleanse, I always like to compare it to mopping, which is the deep clean. It's what's shining your floors, getting all the nooks and crannies, like, really cleansing your skin. So I will say for all skin types, I love cleansing gel, dry acne, pigment, aging, et cetera. But if you love an oil cleanser, I do like the botanical B enzyme oil that we saw on our website from One Love Organics. It smells like a vacation in a bottle. It's really nice. But personally, I just like cleansing gel. It removes my makeup so much better than any oil cleanser. I'm just obsessed with it. I do like the Epicutus oil cleanser, but again, I feel like if I was just wearing sunscreen, it would do a good job. But I don't know, guys. Tonesmart sunscreen, you gotta work to get that bitch off. So I really feel like cleansing gel just does a better job for me.

[B]

I have a good time with ultra gentle cleanser.

[A]

Yeah, you do.

[B]

I like it. I think it melts my. I don't wear full B, obviously any day, but for tonesmart, she does the job.

[A]

Yeah. Also do you love that? And Barrier Pro is amazing. Now they call this a double cleanse in a bottle. Yes. If you had, like, just some sunscreen makeup on, I feel like it could do the job. I just personally always like to do an insurance cleanse to make sure everything's off. I do think it is a very, very, very active cleanser when it comes to removing. Not active with its ingredients, but active as doing its job at removing makeup and sunscreen and mascara. I just would always recommend to do two. You know, like, it just. Yes, it does, but, like, I just need that, like.

[B]

But you also like the dual purpose of one, removing the makeup and two, using A treat? Yeah. Treating the skin, like prepping.

[A]

Because Barrier Pro is not going to treat the skin. It's going to help with barrier function and barrier support, but it's not going to, like, doesn't have any alpha hydroxy acids. And I like a little exfoliation in my cleanser, which is why I also love Prelude. Prelude is such a good one. I've called this a hydrafacial in a bottle. And no, it's not going to replace a hydrafacial treatment. But they have the same technology, kind of sort of. Well, they do. I mean, hydrafacials draw out impurities and infuse nutrients into the skin. And that's what Prelude does as a cleanser. Again, is it going to give that same result? Is it going to replace the hydrafacial? No, but it is cool that it does kind of that same mechanism at home. Daily, twice a day, if that. If you fancy doing it twice a day, you totally can. So I absolutely love Prelude and it smells really good. To other cleansers that I love, we have idyllic cleanser that is a 3% mandelic and that's Tyler's baby. And I love mandelic acid. Mandelic acids are really gentle, alpha hydroxy acid. And, um, it almost is more gentle than lactic. I wouldn't say it's as hydrating as lactic acid, but they're on the same vibe. And it's also great. Cause it's antifungal, antibacterial, anti, inflammatory. It's everything anti. So really great for fungal acne, inflammation in the skin pigment, acne, aging. It's a great exfoliator and it can be used daily. So people ask me, savannah, why do you recommend idyllic over mandelic cleanser from Face Reality? Well, Mandela cleanser is a 1% mandelic, which is great and wonderful. But I've noticed with some of my clients with more stubborn concerns, and maybe they're not using as high of percentages in their daily regimen, they love idyllic cleanser for that extra 2%. And it does make a difference. So more sensitive skin, I would stick with just the regular OG Mandelic from Face Reality. But if you've been on it for a while and you're like, I want to try something new, I really do like the idyllic cleanser. It's quite wonderful. Why are you laughing at me, Tyler? Fuck you.

[B]

I don't know. It's quite wonderful. Like, it was so poised. Like, it was such a poised end. I'M not used to, like, eat and die. It was so funny. Maybe it was so wonderful. It was delightful. Like, okay, pop pop.

[A]

Maybe it's because Orchidosaurus. Hey, you know what, Tyler Rot. Maybe it's because I started off with what up, bitches?

[B]

And then I went in with it.

[A]

It's delightful.

[B]

O. Sorry, that just threw me off. Okay, what's next?

[A]

I don't even know what time we're at.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

What is the time? Nobody knows.

[B]

I think we have.

[A]

And now there's mountains.

[B]

Oh. Yep. I think we should do like three more topics.

[A]

Okay, so we went into cleanser.

[B]

So you said that was second behind sunscreen. Let's talk about sunscreens.

[A]

Okay. Sunscreen, the most important step in your regimen. And if you're not doing it, it's like, it's like eating chips without guac. Or it's like literally making guacamole without the avocado. It's like you have all these amazing, like, tomatoes. And if you go to me, dia. Sun dried tomatoes, bacon on the side. If you're with me, jalapenos, onions, serrano peppers. Is it serrano peppers or scenario?

[B]

I think serrano.

[A]

I don't know our Serrano. It sounds like Toronto.

[B]

There's a T in there that you're missing.

[A]

Toronto.

[B]

Toronto.

[A]

I said Toronto.

[B]

Again.

[A]

Wait, Toronto.

[B]

Where's the T?

[A]

In the beginning.

[B]

No, there's a T. Toronto.

[A]

Oh, like toron. And then a toe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Well, never been. So.

[B]

So, yeah, basically, if you put in all that work and then you don't do it, you don't put in the.

[A]

Avocado, you don't have any avocado and you know your skin's going to fall off and your guacamole. And guacamole.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And honestly, the one thing I would say. Well, that's a lie. The one thing that really changed my skin was Alpharette. But I'd say second to that would be actually wearing sunscreen because, like, low key. When I was in a static school, I didn't wear that shit. But I didn't like any of them, honestly. Let's be so real. My first year as an esthetician, I wasn't great about wearing sunscreen because I just like, first of all, I looked like a rat the entire time. My first year of aesthetics. So you're looking back at videos? Because I made this like, sentimental video about a month ago and it was so funny. I like all my videos. I look like fucking death. It was like I had wet hair. Also, I had no hair. I had a mullet at that time because my. Fuck you, my hair was bleached to nothingness. It fell off. Okay. I fell off. I had no hair. I had really bad lip filler. Like, really bad lip filler.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you guys, it was arguably, like.

[B]

Everyone'S fake for not telling me this style was interesting.

[A]

Hey, I had big boobs.

[B]

Marlo told you.

[A]

Marlo did tell me that my lips looked bad and I had bad outfits.

[B]

And at the time you said, fuck you, Marlo, I thought I was slaying.

[A]

And you know what? Honestly, I was probably more confident then than I am now.

[B]

True facts, 1000%.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, when I was bigger and had bigger boobs and I was botched lip filler, I. Like, I thought I was the shit. And no hair. Fuck you. I really thought I was that girl. I loved myself so much.

[B]

Yeah, you were awesome. No, I don't think it was delusion. I thought you were beautiful back then. Looking back, like, that's crazy to me. You're the same.

[A]

I'm surprised Lance didn't break up with me, to be honest. I would have left me. But you know what? I guess he cared about this heart. Yeah. That's what's inside that counts.

[B]

We're in a silly, goofy mood today.

[A]

We are in a silly, goofy mood.

[B]

So, sunscreen.

[A]

I don't want to talk skincare. Okay, fine, twist my arm. I guess we'll talk skincare. Okay, sunscreen. So there's two mineral. Well, three mineral, chemical and a hybrid. And the hybrid would be a mineral chemical. Little soiree, you know. And mineral sensorine is typically zinc, and this is the one which. Okay, I'm going to tell you what the people say, and I'm going to tell you recent science, okay? Because you'll see both people say mineral sunscreen blocks. And this is what we're taught in school. So no shade to you guys if you believe this, because I did. And then I got called out by all these chemists and all these mean, mean, mean, mean, mean motherfuckers, and I'm like, I'm just reading the textbook and other million resources that say the same thing, but it's not technically correct anymore because we've advanced our studies. But I'll tell you anyway. Mineral sunscreen blocks UV rays. So it's like a reflector, like, doesn't.

[B]

Allow the heat or the sun rays into the skin.

[A]

Into the skin. Chemical. They say, come in, baby girl. But we're going to convert you and change you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like if you came in as a Christian, you'd leave as a Jew.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's what chemical sunscreen is. Or vice versa. Not saying one religion is better than the other. I was just thinking about converting and the only thing I think about when I think of converting is religion.

[B]

Fair enough.

[A]

So before you guys are like trying to comfort me, you guys know I love God, Jesus, my baby. Yeah. But in recent studies, actually mineral sunscreen does get absorbed to some point. So mostly it's coming down to like, what your vibe is. So mineral sunscreens can be a little thicker. They have some good tinted mineral sunscreens, but, you know, some of them can make you a little ashy and chalky. But that's why we like Flex from Color Science and tonesmart from Skin Better and then chemical sunscreen. The only one I really carry is the Face Reality one. And I love it for a cheaper, more affordable option. So it's just different methods, but regardless, the best sunscreen is the one that you'll wear.

[B]

That is true. And that is tonesmart.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or Flex. But I'm a Tone Smart girly through and through. I. Some people like Flex because it's a little thinner in consistency.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And they say it makes their skin feel more like it.

[A]

Like it feels like it's getting in your pores more.

[B]

Yeah. Like it's in there.

[A]

I like Tone Smart because I like Flex to low key though Flex do be breaking me out quite a bit. But Glow and Bronze doesn't. And it's like so like 60, 40, like 60% can use Flex with no issue. And then like 40% of us are like, yeah, it sucks because I love it. But it's. I think it's the way when I've talked to Color Science, they've said it's because of the ironized minerals and the way that they're getting into the skin. And there's no way to go around that without it not being white, so.

[B]

But also one point to make is chemical sunscreen is bad for the ocean.

[A]

Not all.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. That's fear mongering, babe.

[B]

Is it? Actually, but it's illegal in Hawaii.

[A]

Oh yeah. Because there's certain ingredients that people there's seem.

[B]

So they do like a blanket ban.

[A]

If this industry is like so fucking annoying because people have such conviction on both ends. And I'm like, at the end of the day, it's like sunscreen, but like, yeah, calm the down. As long as we're like not getting Skin cancer and dying. Like, it's not that deep. But, like, the misinformation around sunscreen, I just don't want to be getting dueted by some of these chemists because they will say that it is a lie and it isn't true and that chemical sunscreen has nothing to do with coral bleaching. That's what a lot of chemists say.

[B]

Okay, interesting.

[A]

But, you know, I can't put my two cents on that, because I have not done the research.

[B]

Fair enough.

[A]

And so I'm not gonna speak out of my ass.

[B]

I was speaking out of my ass. Well, no, I wasn't. I didn't do medical research. But knowing that. So places around the world require you to use mineral sunscreen when you're in.

[A]

The water, which I want to respect them. Like, we did the whole time in Hawaii. Like, we're going to do what we're told to do. Like, if Dubai's like, don't bring CBD or a vibrator, we're not doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If Hawaii is like, don't bring chemical sunscreen, we're not going to bring it. So. Yeah, but it is kind of one of those things that, like, people are like, it's. It's. Yeah, yeah. To your own research besties. I. I don't know. I've never personally put chemical sunscreen on a piece of coral and watched it turn white. But I think our world's dying. That's what I think.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair. And, you know.

[A]

And can sunscreen play a factor? Maybe, maybe not. But then I'm also on the team of, like, you know, if we don't know 100% if it's doing harm or not, it's better just to not do it, period.

[B]

That's what I was going to say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, last topic. Different forms of exfoliation.

[A]

Oh, I like this one. Okay. We have physical, enzymatic, and chemical.

[B]

Is it enzymatic or enzymatic?

[A]

You know, clearly, I don't know how to say anything ever. I just. I know. I just don't know how to pronounce.

[B]

That's why, like, the other day, I was like, is it dysport or is it dysport?

[A]

It's like tomato, tomato.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's like peacock.

[B]

But no one says tomato. Oh, I guess British people.

[A]

Tomato.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Tomato on that.

[B]

No one in the States says tomato.

[A]

Do you say caramel or caramel?

[B]

I say caramel.

[A]

I say caramel.

[B]

That's the Southern. Do you say pecan or pecan?

[A]

Pecan.

[B]

Paula, do you really actually say pecan?

[A]

Yeah, I say pecan.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay. Am I being jealous?

[B]

Well, no. It's because your mom's from Tennessee.

[A]

Yeah. So you want some pecan and caramel?

[B]

No, caramel is right.

[A]

Caramel.

[B]

Caramel. I say caramel.

[A]

I think I just switched the vibe.

[B]

That I feel depending on the dish. Yeah, like if it's like pecans. Like pecan square.

[A]

Yeah, it's pecan.

[B]

That's pecan. But if it's a pecan pie, it's a pecan. Okay.

[A]

You know, different strokes for different folks and different communities and people around the world and religions and subtype groups.

[B]

Okay. Different types of exfoliation.

[A]

All right, so physical. This would be like a scrub. This could be a clarisonic. Which? Vomit. It could be a foreo. Do you remember the foreo?

[B]

No.

[A]

I loved it.

[B]

I did not have one. Sounds like a sex toy.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

Does it look like one?

[A]

Ah, I've never seen one shaped like that.

[B]

I'm gonna look it up. Keep going though.

[A]

Foreo. There's like an exfoliation mitten. You could have a Kojic sponge. Or is it conjic? No, that's conjugal visit. How do you spell conjug? Sponge. Or is it a Kojic sponge? It's not Kojic acid. It's like K, O, J, A, C. You guys know I'm pretty illiterate.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Does it look like a sex toy? I don't think so. Like, unless you have, like a really big clip. Like a big old clip.

[B]

What else were you wanting me to look up? Kojic.

[A]

Konjik. Fresh Ko. Maybe there's an N. JAC code G. Let me see. No, that wouldn't be it.

[B]

That looks like a Clarissa.

[A]

Let me see that. Oh, we gotta go boo boo skidoo.

[B]

Yeah, I know. We really do. We're going to see Wicked.

[A]

It's konjac.

[B]

Popular.

[A]

It's a root vegetable and you can make it. And it's low calorie because it's mostly water. So that's physical abrasion. Okay. Like mechanical exfoliation. Chemical is going to be chemical. Alpha hydroxy acids. We're talking salicylic acid is a beta hydroxy acid. But that counts because it does do some more exfoliation, but it usually is just decongesting the pore. We have mandelic acid. We have retinoic acid. We have. Why can't. I think glycolic acid, lactic, lactic acid, malic acid. Citric acid, tartaric acid, all the acids.

[B]

You just had to open the floodgate when they came out.

[A]

And then we have enzymatic. And that would be like. Again, don't fucking come for me. I know. Bromelain. Is it papain or papain or Papin or papain?

[B]

Papain.

[A]

You think it's papain? No, I think it's papain. Everyone says it different, but that's from papayas. Bromelain from pineapples. So many different enzyme forms of exfoliation. And this is basically what eats out your dead skin cells, like little Pacman. And it's the most gentle form of exfoliation. So rosacea sensitive skin. I mean, all skin types can use enzymatic. It's just the most, like. Like, it's like missionary sex. It is. It's, like, sweet and loving, and then, like, what.

[B]

What's hanging? What's swinging from the chandeliers?

[A]

That would probably be physical.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know, it's pretty abrasive. Like, no lube, going raw. And then I would say chemicals, like, really just that catch all that. Everyone really loves. It's very beneficial.

[B]

A little reverse cowgirl.

[A]

Yeah. It's like a little freaky. Spice it up, spices it up, but it's nothing, like, too painful. Yeah. And, yeah, I like chemical exfoliation the best.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Alpha peel pads all day, baby.

[B]

Period.

[A]

Love those hoes.

[B]

Okay, we gotta run to a movie. This what we.

[A]

Sorry. We were really trying to get one in, but I think this was funny. And you learned a little bit.

[B]

You learned a little bit.

[A]

If you didn't learn or laugh, get the. Off my platform. I'm just kidding. No, we love you guys.

[B]

We love you guys. We hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.

[A]

I just love that they don't know what kind of episode they're gonna get from me.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Never. It's always like a. Like, what is it gonna be this week?

[A]

Is it delightful?

[B]

It's. This was a delightful episode.

[A]

I think it's funny, and I think people will laugh. And if you don't just pretend or just. And if you didn't like this, just skip it and come back to when I'm, like, normal. All right.

[B]

Love you guys.

[A]

Popular. You're gonna be popular.

[B]

Be.