Your Skin, Decoded

Summary

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The blondEST Podcast — Ep. “Your Skin, Decoded”

Host: Savanna Boda (“The Dallas Aesthetician”)
Guest/Co-host: Lauren
Date: June 8, 2026

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Overview:

This episode is an in-depth, behind-the-scenes look at how Savanna Boda’s practice (SBA) and team build customized skincare regimens and treatment plans for various client profiles. With Lauren—who shadowed Savanna for 18 months—joining the conversation, they share the clinical thinking, methodology, and key products SBA uses for acne, melasma, pigmentation, and aging, tailored to different ages and budgets. The focus throughout is on individualized care, results-driven product recommendations, and why at-home regimens matter as much (or more) than in-office treatments.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. The Art of Custom Treatment Planning

[00:39 - 02:56]

• The SBA team prides itself on pairing holistic approaches with clinical excellence—a mix Savanna attributes to true, lasting client results and her “99% success rate.”
• Regimen-building is described as “an art,” requiring both detailed assessment and intuitive decision-making.

Quote:

“Clearing skin concerns is almost like an art. You have to have all the puzzle pieces fit together—and that’s what we do.” — Savanna, [01:40]

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2. Case Study: Adult Female Acne, Dry Skin ($1,300 budget)

[02:56 - 09:25]
Lauren methodically builds out a regimen for a 34-year-old with mixed-type acne (inflamed + uninflamed), dry skin, and a mid-high budget.

• Morning Routine:

  • Barrier balance creamy cleanser
  • Icing to lower inflammation
  • Hyacinth active for bacteria control
  • Moisture balance toner
  • Lipid serum (hydrating, budget allows for it)
  • Mandelic 5% (to increase if needed)
  • Maestro Revive: “Helps balance skin, targets hormonal issues” [06:33]
  • CO2 mousse (“helps everything—hydration, brightening, antioxidants")
  • Barrier gel cream moisturizer (Face Reality’s upgraded formula praised as “moisturizing but not oily”) [07:05]
  • SPF (Tone Smart—blurring, water-resistant, mineral)

• Evening Routine:

  • Ultra gentle cleanser (double cleanse if needed)
  • Mandelic wash or idyllic cleanser (“depending on acne severity”)
  • Repeat serums, Maestro Revive, then Alpharet and Acne Med 2.5%
  • Moisturizer as needed (with advice to “wait 10 mins after actives before moisturizing if dry”)
  • Weekly: Mattifying sulfur mask and hydrocalm mask (hydration)

• In-office Treatments:

  • Airlase, acne peels
  • Always end with moisture-boosting add-ons (CO2 mask or glacial glide, especially for dry skin)

Quote:

“Some products are non-negotiables—there is literally no dupe, nothing compares.” — Lauren, [04:27]

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3. Teenage Male Acne, Super Oily, Minimal Budget

[09:25 - 12:24]

Lauren builds a simpler, cost-conscious plan for a 15-year-old boy, focusing on compliance and basics:

• AM:

  • Ultra gentle cleanser
  • Hyacinth active
  • Sal C toner (with sports/activity discussion: “Hyacinth active is great on-the-go”)
  • Mandelic 5% or 8% (case dependent)
  • Hydrobalance (for oily skin; hydro remedy if drier)
  • Barrier gel cream; Power Mineral SPF 50 (new favorite)

• PM:

  • Ultra gentle cleanser or mandelic wash
  • Moisture balance PM toner
  • Hydrobalance
  • Alpha red or clearing serum (if budget/complexity allows)
  • Acne Med 2.5%, increase if needed
  • Moisturizer only if experiencing dryness around mouth (“Push through, dryness usually resolves in a couple weeks” [11:53])

• Treatments:

  • Acne peels and extractions as needed; Airlase if possible (“Always Airlase if they can. Whatever the concern—always.” [12:06])

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4. Hyperpigmentation & Melasma, Mature Female

Two Budget Scenarios: $700 and Unlimited
[12:24 - 24:24]

$700 Budget:

• AM:

  • Ultra gentle cleanser (“Icing goes for everybody, helps inflammation” [13:38])
  • Soothing radiance toner
  • Ondo (for pigmentation)
  • Vivid (pigment inhibition + hydration, “two-in-one”)
  • Barrier gel cream
  • Tinted SPF (“More protection, period.” [15:23])

• PM:

  • Ultra gentle mandelic cleanser
  • Soothing radiance toner, icing
  • Vivid Intensive, Alpharet
  • Barrier gel
  • Daily Cispera (“non-negotiable for melasma, game changer” [15:48])
  • Peel pads for pigment

• Key insight: Strong emphasis on getting clients to invest in a thorough regimen first, before in-office treatments. “You touch your skin 730 times a year, we see you once a month.” [17:08]

• Lifestyle advice: Avoid “hot yoga, frequent beach trips, steamy showers,” which can worsen melasma/pigment [17:35].

• Treatment Pick (if limited budget): RDS peel (TCA, Kojic acid, peptides; “great for hyperpigmentation”)

Unlimited Budget:

• Expanded AM Regimen:

  • Vitamin C cleanser (Glymed)
  • Ice
  • Barrier Pro Mist (Color Science; “best, very fine mist” [21:17])
  • Intense serum
  • Exosomes
  • Lipid serum
  • Archogenin brightening serum (Epicutus)
  • Ondo (“Brightening + antioxidants, treats more than exfoliation” [21:24])
  • Alto Advanced (antioxidants)
  • Even Intensive + Vivid (“different pigment inhibitors, work together”)
  • Maestro Revive
  • CO2 mousse
  • Trio Lux (niacinamide for pigment)
  • Tinted sunscreen

• PM Adjustments:

  • Switch in cleansers (Barrier Pro, Idyllic), drop Ondo/Alto for night
  • Add Intensive Alpharet

• Weekly/Daily Adds:

  • Peel pads, peptide micro scrub, supplements (glutathione, cispera total skin)
  • “Treating outside in and inside out.” [22:52]

• Advanced Treatments:

  • Airlase, RDS, Glacial Glide—do a series first.
  • ERA laser only after prepping skin/peels and “never start with heavy hitter—can trigger pigment” [23:31]
  • Wait for “winter” for heat-based lasers in Texas.
  • Missing hydroquinone noted (“would have a different answer if we could get it back”) [24:14]

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5. Moderate Aging, Loss of Laxity/Glow (47-year-old), Normal Skin, $1,200 Budget

[24:24 - 30:33]

• Barrier Pro cleanser (universally loved; “I am a slut for Barrier Pro” [25:44])

• CBD mist (“great for anti-aging and skin health”)

• Ondo (AM exfoliation)

• Renewing HA (or Ampra if budget allows; debated)

• Alto Advanced (antioxidants)

• Face and Neck Cream (“a great option instead of moisturizer if budget is tight, treats both face and neck” [28:18])

• Add extra moisturizer if needed for more hydration

• PM: Barrier Pro, Idyllic, Renewing HA/Ampra, Alpharet (or Intensive variant), Face and Neck

• Weekly: Peel pads, CO2 masks (“so good, treat yourself” [29:39])

• Supplements: Glutathione

• In-office Treatments:

  • Airlase, SkinBetter peels, SkinPen microneedling with exosomes
  • If laxity/jowls: Sofwave (“but budget needs to be higher”)
  • Sofwave is typically done “once or twice a year” [30:38]

Notable Exchange:

“It truly is case by case… you can’t just see something on paper and it be the same for everybody.” — Lauren, [27:03]

“At first Lauren was always asking, ‘these people have the same concern and you chose this for one and that for another—why?’ And Savanna would say, ‘It’s a vibe.’” — Savanna, [27:15]

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6. The Importance of Education, Budget, and Home Care

[30:44 - 32:16]

• Budget discussions emphasized as flexible and shaped by client education.
• New clients may not understand product value until educated; this often leads them to reconsider their budget when they grasp “how important a regimen is.”
• Home care is foundational; many clients “start slow” and upgrade as they see results.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “You touch your skin 730 times a year. We see you once a month—what you do at home is what matters.” — [17:08]
• “Push through. Give it a week or two—the dryness goes away.” (Teen acne compliance) — Lauren, [11:53]
• “Hot yoga, frequent beach trips, steamy showers… you’re not helping yourself.” (Lifestyle & pigment) — Lauren, [17:53]
• “I was always asking Savannah… ‘Why did you choose this for one person and that for another?’ She’d say, ‘It’s a vibe.’” — Lauren, [27:15]

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Structure & Flow

• Every regimen is client-specific: Layered with clarifying questions about symptoms, history, lifestyle, and budget.
• Treatment approach: Advise on which products are “non-negotiable,” how to adapt plans per budget, when to introduce “heavier hitters,” and how to prime skin for in-office procedures.
• Home care > Treatments: Maintaining healthy skin is about daily, educated consistency, not just outcome from treatments.
• Education-first ethos: SBA leads with information, not hard selling, so clients make informed decisions.

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Noteworthy Product Mentions

• Face Reality Barrier Gel Cream: Highlighted as the stand-out moisturizer for acne-prone skin (“they perfected that formula”)
• Hyacinth Active & Mandelic Acid: Core components for acne
• Cispera: “Non-negotiable” for melasma
• Vivid: “Two-in-one” for pigment and hydration
• Barrier Pro (Color Science): Universally well-received cleanser/mist, loved by staff and clients
• Exosomes & Niacinamide (Trio Lux): For pigmentation and overall skin health
• Airlase, Glacial Glide, ERA, Sofwave: Choices for energy-based or stimulating treatments

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:40] – Savanna on the artistry of clearing skin concerns
• [04:27] – Lauren: some products are “non-negotiables”
• [07:05] – Praise for Face Reality’s Barrier Gel Cream
• [11:53] – Advice for teens: “Push through” acne med dryness
• [15:48] – Cispera as a melasma “game changer”
• [17:08] – Home care math: “730 times vs. once a month”
• [21:17] – Barrier Pro Mist described as “best, very fine mist”
• [27:15] – “It’s a vibe” intuition in regimen building
• [29:39] – CO2 masks are a “treat yourself” anti-aging splurge
• [30:44] – On the flexible, education-driven approach to budgets

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Tone throughout:
Conversational, detailed, and practical with light, joyful banter and clear clinical instructions. Plenty of in-jokes and real-world asides that demystify clinical decision-making and reinforce the case-by-case, evidence-based nature of SBA’s signature methodology.

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Useful For:

• New and existing clients seeking insight on how SBA builds individualized skincare plans
• Skincare enthusiasts wanting to understand the clinical/holistic approach
• Estheticians interested in consultation flow, product selection, and the value of education and patient adherence

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Transcript

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

Welcome back to another episode of the Blondest podcast. We missed you. We hope you're having a wonderful week. I am joined again with Lauren.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

And this week we are going to be giving you an inside look. I mean, Lauren shadowed Savannah for like 18 months maybe. I feel like it was basically like

[A]

straight up, like, shadowing. Yeah, probably like 18 months.

[B]

Yeah. And like, even before then you were like, still learning and like being closely involved in how she did things. But, like, truly like Maria doing a lot of the consultations and you are like, not consultations but intakes. And you being in the treatment room was like 18 months before you were on your own.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So this is almost like an inside look into how Savannah and Lauren do things at sba. So we're going to be going through different skin concerns, maybe even different, like, client profiles. Not specific clients, of course, but like a type of client with their concern and what Lauren would recommend for them as like a treatment plan and a regimen that they would get taken home if they were to come in for a consultation. And this is like a good little exercise. I feel like that is what sets us apart so much from other clinics and what really helped build Savannah. Obviously she's a great marketer, she's great on social media, but at the end of the day, end of the day, she was great at what she did. And I think clearing skin concerns is almost like an art. Like, you have to have all the puzzle pieces to fit together and that's what we do. I just burped. That was disgusting. You have to have all the pieces together and like, that's what makes us so special. So there's a method to the madness. It would probably take more than you just giving it to learn it, but I think this is a good, like, taste of, like, regimen building and how we like to treat things. So my first one, I'm making these up off the cuff, by the way. So my first one is going to be, let's start with acne. And let's do a 34 year old woman with dry skin and has combination of uninflamed and inflamed acne.

[A]

What's our budget looking like?

[B]

Oh, geez, I forgot I had to give you a budget. You know, she's 34, she's, she's married. She's a stay at home wife. Her husband comes for money. So we'll say like, we're comfortable. Yeah, we're comfortable. We'll say like, see, I want to keep it, like, also realistic because I Know we have a certain demographic but let's say a like thirteen hundred dollar budget.

[A]

Okay. I also don't know all the prices on the top of my head but it helps me kind of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Know what area, what way I'm leaning.

[B]

I feel like you're pretty good. No, I feel like normally.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes you're a few hundred doll. Like I feel like, feel like in the general sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know you can't do lipid intense and 50mls of every product.

[A]

Yeah. And like a CO2 mousse. Like we're at the full budget there but. Okay. So also other follow up question, is her acne something that's like more hormonal? Did it come up recently like any like lifestyle changes for her or is it just.

[B]

I think let's say, let's say she's had it for a while and it doesn't seem hormonal.

[A]

Okay, so what areas on her face? There's a lot of questions that go into this.

[B]

Let's say she's having it on her lower cheeks, maybe a few on her chin.

[A]

Okay. So it probably definitely is leaning hormonal then. So I would start with the thing with the regimens is some of the products are non negotiables. So there are certain areas where we can be a little bit more cost friendly and then other ones that were like there is literally no dupe, nothing that compares to it. So we gotta keep this. So since her budget is a little bit more comfortable, we'll say so we'll do she's dry, so let's do barrier balance creamy cleanser in the morning, ice her face, it'll help lower inflammation. Then she's going to use highest and active because that's going to kill all the bad bacteria since she is dry. But I want to be mindful of the other products. We're going to go with moisture balance toner because it does exactly that. It supports the moisture and balancing the skin. Then we will go in with lipid serum because she is a little bit inflamed and her budget allows for lipid and it's very hydrating as well. So great for dry skin or any skin. Mandelic will start her with 5%, bump up her percentage later if needed and then we will do lipids in there to hydrate. So we'll jump into maestro revive. It uses the plant adaptogens, help target homeostasis so it help balance her skin. The revive has all of those adaptogens plus more to address specifically like hormonal imbalances. So we'll do that one. She only needs to use like a little bit of it. So like about a half a pump in the morning. And then we'll go in with CO2 mousse because that is going to help really everything. It'll help boost your hydration, help brighten it. It has antioxidants to support it. And then finish with a moisturizer. I personally really like the barrier gel cream from Face Reality. It's great for acne prone skin. It's not super expensive. It feels really great. And then we'll finish with spf. Tone Smart is a great option for acne prone skin because it helps blur the color and lasts forever. Water resistant mineral, all things honestly, like

[B]

pause because I want to give a shout out to the barrier curl gel cream. Like, I'm not going to lie, their previous moisturizers did their job, but they weren't a wow. No, not a wow by any means. I'm oily and I hated using Clearderma. Like I don't know what it was like I felt like it was just almost too mattifying to a certain extent. Like it didn't even feel like a moisturizer on my skin. And maybe that's just my personal bone to pick, but I feel like barrier coat gel cream feels moisturizing but not like it's going to make you more oily or shiny. Like yeah, they perfected that formula.

[A]

Yeah. Swaps for night or nighttime we would do ultra gentle cleanser, get all makeup off. Then Mandelic wash second or idyllic cleanser kind of depending on the severity of the acne where we're starting at. And then Hyacinth moisture balance toner again. Then we'll go in with lipid serum again, just a single drop and then we'll skip the Mandelic. We'll go straight into Maestro Revive again, just like half a pump. Then we'll go in with Alpharet, then acne med 2.5 again. We can bump up the percentage later if needed. And then on the regimen cards we recommend that you wait for that to dry at this point because the moisturizer it can basically counteract and your acne is not working efficiently if you mix the moisturizer right on top. So wait about 10 minutes for that to dry and then add in bare hair gel cream again if needed. You don't always have to moisturize at the end if your skin doesn't need it. But since she is dry, we'll go ahead and add it and Then weekly mattifying sulfur mask. She can use that on spots at nighttime and then hydrocalm mask for in the shower to help with her dryness treatments. Treatments starting with airlase and acne peels and then adding on CO2 mask or glacial guide at the end because definitely don't she's dry so we need to add in some moisture there as well.

[B]

Okay, so next we'll do acne but in a 15 year old boy who's super oily. Mom doesn't want to spend a lot. She's not giving you a budget but you know she doesn't want to spend a lot. She says he's not going to use a lot of products. And yeah, just like teenage acne.

[A]

Teenage acne. Okay, so I would do ultra gentle cleanser in the morning. Then ideally hyacinth active and then Sal C toner in the morning. And with like the teenage boys I always will ask them like do you play sports? Like do you work out? And that's a good talking point of getting them into getting the hyacinth active because they can carry that around as well. So yeah, Hyacinth celsi. Then we'll do mandelic 5% or 8% kind of just depending on the case. Hydrobalance biface reality. That one's really great for oily skin. So a lot of times when I'm choosing between like hydra remedy or hydro balance, usually anyone that expresses that they have like combination or oily prone skin hydrobalance if they're on the more dry side and have a lot of like and need healing hydro remedy. And then honestly barrier gel cream SPF the new power mineral SPF 50. That one is also a new fan favorite PM. I would do ultra gentle mandelic wash hyacinth and then moisture balance for PM toner and then hydro balance Alpha red or clearing serum. That one kind of is like case by case if it's in budget. If it's in budget. And then also like severity and how mom feels about this amount of steps. And then acne med 2.5 and then again bump it up if needed. And then with a boys if he's like super oily, sometimes oily can be because your skin's like so dehydrated and then it's overcompensating. So another case by case, whether we add a moisturizer at the end or not, whether it's I feel like they

[B]

already have the moisturizer so we're like use it if you feel like you're like starting to flake or.

[A]

Because a lot of times when they start the acne med, they're like, oh my gosh, around my mouth is so dry. And I'm like, no, push through. Give it like a week or two. And they're like, oh, yeah, it completely went away. I got used to it. So.

[B]

And then treatments.

[A]

Treatments. Acne peels if they can. Yeah, always airlies if they can. Whatever the concern. Always. But yeah, acne peels for sure. And then a lot of like the oily boys, they need extract. So that too if needed.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna give you the same profile but two completely different budgets. Okay, so let's say this is a 56 year old woman with sunspots and melasma. And. Well, is melasma always hormone related? It must be.

[A]

Like heavily is related to hormones.

[B]

Melasma doesn't come from the sun, right?

[A]

No, but it can be like exacerbated by the sun.

[B]

So. So let's have that woman. And one of them has an unlimited budget. And then one of them has a like $700 budget.

[A]

Okay, I'm gonna do the $700 budget first. Okay, so we will start with. We'll do cleansing gel. Oh, well, we're gonna do all save.

[B]

10 bucks.

[A]

Yeah, 10 bucks. It adds up.

[B]

Yeah, it does.

[A]

So we'll do ultra dental cleanser and then icing. Icing goes for everybody too because lowering inflammation is good for all skin concerns. So icing. And then we'll go in with. I almost said something that would put me out of budget. So

[B]

that's why I'm. I feel like this one's hard. Like clearing melasma or hyperpigmentation with a

[A]

low budget is just like.

[B]

Yeah, I mean you can do it, but it's gonna be slow and steady.

[A]

Slow and slow and steady. Okay, so we'll do soothing radiance toner. I like that one. I think that's this one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I really like ondue for hyperpigmentation. So we'll do ondo and then even intensive or vivid. I would definitely add in. The nice thing about vivid is it is kind of like a two in one because it's going to inhibit your pigment, but it also has the ha in it, so it's going to hydrate as well. So a lot of times when it is more of like a budget issue. I'll do vivid because we can do that right after the ondo and it's going to address concerns and not dry you out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we'll go with Vivid. Okay, so on to vivid.

[B]

I'm a vivid, Stan.

[A]

I love vivid. Yeah, I love it. I feel like I'm like almost too short with this budget because then. Well, no, no, because I have to save some. Save some for the end time. I know. So we're going to end there. We're going to go. Wait, barrier gel.

[B]

Okay. I was like ending up. That is crazy.

[A]

No, no, no. Ending that there with like the serums. So we'll do undo vivid barrier gel and then spf, specifically a tinted spf because a tinted SPF is going to provide more protection, period. Yep. So PM Ultra gentle mandelic, soothing radiance, toner and icing. And then we'll do vivid intensive alpharette barrier gel and then daily cispera. Yeah, that's like a non negotiable for melasma. Like if you come in with a budget, like we're gonna make it work into the budget as best as possible because game changer.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And then peel pads, also great for pigment.

[B]

I think you just hit our budget.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. I think I have to stop. We. We could do five for 25.

[B]

Yeah, I think. And like, I think you did great. But I think that a lot of the times, at least how Savannah does things, especially with a concern like this, she would almost rather. Because I'm about to ask you treatments, but it's like, I feel like in this case she would rather them get the regimen that you're about to recommend for no budget and hold off on treatments because you touch your skin. What is it, 730 days per or 730 times per year? Is that 365 times? Two? I think so. 730. I think so. And you touch people's face once a month?

[A]

Once a month. If that.

[B]

Yeah, so. So you probably would. I mean, we'd still like to get them in for treatments. But the regimen is.

[A]

Yeah. What you're doing at home is very, very important. And then the lifestyle stuff too, like pigment. Like if your biggest thing won't go on a tangent, but if you're buying all these things, but then you're going to hot yoga every morning and like, if you're not doing all the right lifestyle things, that also is not going to help you. So, like what you're doing and following what's recommended at home is the most important thing.

[B]

Like hot yoga every morning. Going on a beach trip once a week or once a month?

[A]

Once a week.

[B]

And then like cooking a stir fry every day.

[A]

And then hot. Hot like, steamy showers every night. Like, you're not helping yourself.

[B]

Okay, so what would you do for treatments that if they were like, I don't have a lot of money to spend on treatments. I won't give you a budget. Because sometimes I feel like a lot of the times they don't give you a budget on treatments, but they're like, I don't want to spend a lot.

[A]

Yeah. I would say for this person that doesn't, I'm just going to assume that they don't want to do Airlase. I would say RDS peel because it has the TCA Kojic acid peptides. It's really great for hyperpigmentation.

[B]

Okay, so now no budget.

[A]

Oh, okay. So I would do, in the morning, vitamin C cleanser. Glymed.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Then I would do ice and then Barrier Pro Mist from Color Science. That's another, like, one that I've really been loving.

[B]

I need to use that.

[A]

Have you used it?

[B]

I think I have it, but I don't. I am so stuck on using my routine. I literally. So Ryan and I just moved. We used to have one, like, Giant, like, the entire vanity. We had a single sink at the last place. And, like, the entire vanity underneath, it was one giant drawer. And so we had all of the skincare we had out. And then when we got into this place, we have two vanities with two giant drawers. And mine literally has eight. Eight products in it. And his has 400, like, the products. And I have on my side, Hyacinth, CBD mist, Intense serum, Lipid serum, Mandelic. Well, we both do mandelic. So the mandelic 8% sits on top. But Mandelic Restorative. Ha. Vivid Carboxymos, Intensemart. And then at night, I have an Alpharette. And I think that's it. Like, I'm so simple. I am so, like, I love that for you. Yeah.

[A]

Just not cluttered.

[B]

And when I feel like whenever I try to, like, venture out is when I'm like, hey, Lauren, can you zap my skin?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, why am I trying to switch it up?

[A]

I think you would like Barrier Pro Mist, though.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think you should give it a try.

[B]

I will. Does it have a nice Mr.

[A]

It's very, very fine. Best. I would say it's like. I would say it's the nicest one.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So very pro.

[A]

Very pro. Then I would do intense serum and then exosomes, then lipid serum, because it's going to help lower the inflammation. Inflammation is going to Just cause more pigment, all the things. So that. Then I do Archogenin brightening serum by Epicutus. Then trying to like, picture in my mind my little list. Ondo and Ondue is great because it has ingredients that actually help brighten the skin and antioxidants and stuff. So like, yes, it is exfoliating, but it's also treating more things beyond just exfoliating. Then I would do Alto advanced because antioxidants are really going to help brighten the skin as well. Then I would do.

[B]

Did you just say antioxidant or did you say alto advanced?

[A]

I said both words, I think.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I said alto advanced because it has antioxidants, even intensive, especially the intensive one, because it's going to treat existing pigment and prevent new vivid. So they have different pigment inhibitors. So they work together. Maestro revive as well. Because if it's like melasma hormonal issue, I need some balancing. Then I do see a two moose that also is going to help brighten the skin and hydrate. Then I would do Trio Lux because the trio Lux has niacinamide and niacinamide is really great for pigment. And then again a tinted sunscreen at the end.

[B]

So at night, same thing. Take out Ondo. What's the double cleanse?

[A]

Double cleanse would be probably barrier pro cleanser and then idyllic cleanser.

[B]

And then what would you add in?

[A]

Add in. I would take out the Ondo and the Alto.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, skip those at night. And then add in intensive Alpharette.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. And then weekly.

[A]

Weekly. Well, daily. And then I would also add in peel pads, weekly, peptide micro scrub weekly. And then supplements, glutathione and the new cispera total skin supplements. So then they're treating outside in and inside out.

[B]

Treatment plan?

[A]

Treatment plan. We would do aralase, rds, glacial glide, a series of those.

[B]

When would you bring in, like an era?

[A]

In the wintertime in Texas. So I. We never really want to start with like a heavy hitter. We really want to.

[B]

It can trigger more, right?

[A]

Yeah, it can if you. If it overheats. And like, we have people get on regimens at the beginning because you really want to prime and prep their skin and get the ball rolling first. So we wouldn't ever, like, just jump straight into era. But that would be after. After like a series of six airlays rds with glide. I mean, if we're talking realistically this time of year, it would be perfect. And then we would do our air at the end. Um, but yeah, just Making sure that the weather is nice and hoping we

[B]

can get some hydroquinone back on our shelves.

[A]

Yeah, that would be helpful too. Then I would have a different answer, but

[B]

okay. My last one is going to be we need to do aging. I feel like. So let's do moderate aging. Let's do, like, 47 years old. Like, starting to see some loss of laxity and glow. And maybe the neck's getting a little creepy. Not huge jowls, but, like, starting to see, like, a little sagging. Um, but, like, otherwise pretty normal skin. Like, no visible severe pigment concerns or, like, acne or, like, anything like that. Like, just straight up.

[A]

Just, like, preventing.

[B]

Yeah. And like, preventing, but also slight correcting.

[A]

Okay. I would say.

[B]

And budget. Let's go $1,200.

[A]

So we'll start with eye. Oily.

[B]

Normal.

[A]

Normal. Okay. I'll do Barrier Pro.

[B]

This is like your, like, like, average Highland park mom who's coming in for. She's like, I want a facial. Like, she has good skin, but, like, we don't do facials. But, like, she just, like, wants to look younger.

[A]

Let's do. Yeah, I'll stick with Barry Pro.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, she.

[B]

She's a slut. For Barrier Pro.

[A]

I am. I love Barrier Pro. But one. Whenever I put people onto it, they love it too.

[B]

No, Ryan loves it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, it's so good. Okay, so we'll do Barrier Pro and then CBD Mist. Great for anti aging and just overall skin health. Then we'll go in with Ondo. It'll be morning exfoliant, then renewing. Ha. Trinity. And then alto. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do Alto. And then I. I was thinking about Ambra, because I feel like that is so good. And, like, we've already been seeing, like, super good results from it.

[B]

I feel like you can throw on AMPRA. I feel like that would put us at, like, 500

[A]

right now.

[B]

With Empra.

[A]

With Empra. But I'm not dying.

[B]

Yeah, but we have 700 more.

[A]

Yeah, but I have other things in my mind. I can't get ahead of myself. Okay, we'll do renewing. Ha. Or Ambra.

[B]

This is the struggle. Yeah. Every day.

[A]

No, it is. And it's hard because it truly is, like, case by case. Like, you can't just see something on paper and it be the same for everybody. Like, it truly is what this person's, like, concerns and what they look like.

[B]

I feel like the thing that confused you the most at first was like. Like, Lauren was always asking Savannah, like, these people both have the same skin concern, the same skin type. Like, the same whatever. And you chose this for one of them and this for the other one. Like, why? And Santa was like, I don't know. It's a vibe.

[A]

No, it was literally I would get, like, it's a vibe. Or, like, ask her another question. She's like, I just listened to the music and, like, that was what came to me. And I'm like, okay.

[B]

Are you the same way now, though? Like, do you get it?

[A]

No, I do get it. Like, a little bit. Like, there is just, like, a weird intuition. But, like, she'll ask me now, like, why'd you do this? And I'm like, I just felt like this was the right choice. And she's like, okay, she gets it, though. Like, we're on the same wavelength now, but, like, learning it. I'm like, I don't know what that means. Okay, so we'll do Renewing Ha. Or Ambra and Alto Advanced, and then we'll finish with. I mean, Trio or. No, no, no. Face and neck.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Brand new face and neck instead. Because it's a great option instead of a moisturizer, if you can do it with Trio or other moisturizers if budget allows. But if budget's a little bit tighter, we can do face and neck as the moisturizer and then bring it all the way down. So then we're treating both areas.

[B]

It may not be as moisturizing as it is hydrating.

[A]

I mean, it doesn't compare to Trio. It's different, but with everything else that you're using. Like, if you're using renewing and ampra, the other stuff beforehand, you'll be fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And again, we can always add in a moisture. Like, if you need more moisture, like, we can add a face reality one on top or something like pm. We'll do Barrier Pro and idyllic. Barrier promised. Renewing HA or Ampra, Both Alpharette or intensive, kind of just depending on the person. And then face and neck weekly peel pads. CO2 masks are great for anti aging if you can afford them. They're pricey, but they're.

[B]

You're like, treat yourself.

[A]

No, they're so good.

[B]

I should do one tonight. When's the last time you did one?

[A]

Probably, like, a month ago.

[B]

Okay. It's time.

[A]

It is time. I usually do it, like, on the first weekend of the month. Okay, so it. I am overdue.

[B]

Okay. You're far overdue.

[A]

Yeah, we're already halfway. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And then. So Alfred or Intensive. Oh, wait, no, you were on weekly.

[A]

Yeah. CO2, CO2 peel pads and then glutathione.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Also great. Treatments, Treatments, aerials, skin better peel a series of that or skin pen microneedling with exosomes. Again, it kind of depends on person. And then obviously there's other one. Like, soft wave is great, especially if, like, jowls are a concern, but then the budget's a little bit higher, so.

[B]

But that one's like. You're like. But you want to done. Yeah, for the most part.

[A]

Yeah, once or twice a year, and then you're. You're good. So,

[B]

yeah, the good thing, the main thing is also. And if you're a client, this isn't a negative thing that I'm saying, but the budget is always flexible. I feel like people just have to see the value in what they're purchasing. I think people come in, especially, like, new clients come in, and they don't know, like, we're asking them what a budget is, but they don't know what each of the prices are. They don't know the value behind everything. And so we lead everything at SBA with education, and I think when people fully understand it, they're more likely to want to invest in it. So, you know, some people have come in before and say, like, I. I have $100 credit towards this consultation. Like, I'm good with spending $200 more. And then after educating them on, like, skin health and, like, how important a regimen is, and, like, you know, say they have a condition like hyperpigmentation or melasma, and, like, the difficulty it is and the amount of. Or, yeah, the amount of areas that need to be addressed to control something like that and all that education goes into it, then they're like, okay, I can do 1200. Like, yeah, so.

[A]

Or just, like, starting, like, as low as possible. And we have a lot of clients that they start slow, like, at the day of their consultation, and even then, they see so many results, and that is enough, like, proof for them to be like, okay, I'm ready to add more and go from there.

[B]

Well, that was fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We love you guys. I am actually off to a fun vacation with Ryan. I'm so excited. I was gonna say it's been so long since I took a vacation, but I was literally in Hawaii, like, three months ago.

[A]

Yeah, it hasn't been that long.

[B]

Turning into Savannah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, I hope you guys have a wonderful rest of your week. Thank you, Lauren, for being my stand in. I feel like I need stand ins so often. I'M basically the host of the show. Now it's mine. Yeah, this is the Brown, not est Brunettis. But I'm not an esthetician, so.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Because it's like blonde s and the S. Oh, you never did that?

[A]

No, I didn't know that.

[B]

Well, the more you know. So now I'm the brunette. Brunette.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep. Love you guys. Bye. Bye.

[A]

Bye.