← The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
Dinners and Losers
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It's week 1 of your April Book Lisp. As always, no book spoilers until week 4, so Jon & Sarah talk about things inspired by this month's read: "Then She Was Gone" by Lisa Jewell. Sarah discusses how her divorced parents hanging out with each other was a positive thing - but she made it weird. Jon ponders why the world loves true crime, and both Jon & Sarah agree that the there only needs to be one "talker" in the room.
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Sarah Colonna
Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.
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John Ryan
And I'm John Ryan.
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Sarah Colonna
And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.
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John Ryan
The Book Lisp.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book List. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Hi, John.
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John Ryan
Hello.
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Sarah Colonna
Happy April.
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John Ryan
How are you? Happy April. We're here.
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Sarah Colonna
We're here. I'm very shiny again today. Do you see this? John can see me if you're watching.
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John Ryan
Just because you're a star, baby.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, you're so sweet. I think some people try to call it Dewey. I'm like, no, I'm just shiny. It's just shiny. But if you're watching, people want to be dewy.
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John Ryan
What do girls want to be dewy?
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Sarah Colonna
I think it's like a. You. I think that's like a youthful look when you're dewy instead of just like sweat.
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John Ryan
Don't just look sweaty.
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Sarah Colonna
No, it's like glowy. It's so you're. Instead of being a dried up old. You know. Oh, they want to.
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John Ryan
When we were kids, my mom used to call a penis. You're Dewey. You Dewey Dinkle.
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Sarah Colonna
You're Dewey Dinkle.
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John Ryan
Yeah. You're Dewey, I think, for sure. Dewey Dinkle. The Christian name for it. That's its proper name, yes.
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Sarah Colonna
I just want you to know I'm never going to call it your Dewey, because it would.
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John Ryan
Please don't. It would go right back. It would go right back inside me.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, boy, what a start to our First Monday of April podcast. It is the first Monday of April, even though it's the seventh already. But we had five Mondays in March. That's why we did. I got to have a bonus interview with Susan Powder, which was super fun. If you didn't listen to that, please do. She's quite a force, that Susan Powder. So it was really fun. And if you don't know who she is, you should look her up. But here we are in April. It is time for my pick. It is time for everyone to be reading. Then she was Gone by Lisa Jewell. I know a lot of you are already deep in it. I see a lot of you on the Book Lisp. Lisponers Book Listeners. That's our Facebook group. I see a lot of you on there talking about it, which makes me happy because everyone feels that I knocked it out of the park again so far, which is very exciting. Not everyone, but most people. And if you don't, well, I'm sorry. How are you liking it so far?
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John Ryan
I Love it. I love it. I read it a long time ago. Now I got to reread it to kind of freshen. Refreshen. Freshen my memory or refresh my memory. Refresh my memory.
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Sarah Colonna
Refresh your memory. I know it's funny because I've read it and then I read it all last month and then I will have to do a little refresh. I also do the highlights, the notes on my. On my Kindle, which I asked about this in the group. But since we are a book club podcast, we can talk Kindle here. I. I think I need. You don't do notes, right? You don't highlight notes in your Kindle?
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John Ryan
No, I just, I write down things like on my iPad or my iPhone pad, you know, Notepad.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Because I. I don't have the newest one that I got you for Christmas and I'm wondering if it's better. But so when you go. When you highlight in the Kindle that I have, you can go back to your highlights, but then it takes you back to your highlight and then back to the highlights again. Page you don't have. You can't. You should just be able to scroll your highlights. Oh, you should just save them for sure as a scroll to make it easier. I'm sorry. If you're watching this on Patreon, I keep messing with my hair, but it's in my face. You can watch this on Patreon. You can watch our videos. It's just us sitting here. It's pretty exciting. And you can watch our videos. But also the big draw that has. Has all the people talking now is our bonus content on Patreon. The 5th, the 15th, and the 25th of every month. The 5th and the 25th, we just do a little hit record and we just talk some nonsense. Sometimes it's about what's going on in our lives. Sometimes books are involved, but it's nothing extra for you to read. But on the 15th, we do short stories, and that is very fun. And they. We always pick a pretty short story so that you can keep up with your reading. And then also it's always just sitting there for you. If you can tell that I'm Googling it right now to. To try to remember the name of the short story. The Fall Trust Fall. The Fall Risk is Abby him by Abby Jimenez is April's short story. The Fall Risk by Abby Jimenez. That's April short story. If you're on Patreon, and if you're not, you should join. It's only $5 a month. And you get three extra episodes. And then if you like watching the video, you can watch the video too. The extra episodes are all just audio because sometimes we do them when we're traveling and stuff. Any hooser, that's that. John, I don't want to confuse the people, but everyone's always asking me for your book, your next book. And I think it's time to go ahead and make the May announcement for our people that read ahead, our library users, all the things. What. What is the May announcement for? John Ryan's pick for the book Lisp.
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John Ryan
Beach Vibes by Susan Mallerie.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, what's. Who's a Susan Mallerie? I don't know anything about a Susan Mallerie. This is a new one for me.
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John Ryan
I know. It's a new one for me, too. A bit of a Stranger Danger, but I think it's. It's a good book. I think the people are going to like it.
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Sarah Colonna
Are. Are you. Have you finished reading it or you just reading it?
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John Ryan
I have. That's why I'm a little bit Stranger Danger, because I haven't finished it yet. Usually every book I've ever put on here I've already read, so I'm not quite done this one yet. So I'm going out on a limb a little bit, but I want to get something fresh, a new author in here.
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Sarah Colonna
Okay, so say it again. Beach Vibes Susan by Susan Mallory. This is exciting. I see. We were talking about this a little bit last week and it's. Picking the books is. It's, it's a big deal. It's a lot of weight. We want you, everyone to be happy. So far, everyone has been, but. And then if not what. I mean, it's so subjective. Right? But so far, the people that like the genres that we read, you know.
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John Ryan
When you're a kid, they say, never judge a book by its cover. I always judge a book by its cover. Always? Always. Like, I've never seen a book that had, like a really good cover and it was a bad book. Like, they know who they're trying to attract with the COVID They're trying to attract people that like this genre of books. So they're trying to attract me towards this book. So I judge it purely on its cover. And then I read it and I usually enjoy it. You came up with two books with two great covers and I married you, so how about that?
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Sarah Colonna
Thank you. That's a nice thing to say. Thank you. I do. My books did have really good covers. And Life As I Blow it and has anyone seen my pants? If you didn't know that I've written two books. So that's funny because we did talk a little bit when we did the New Wife, which was. Was that January's book. Feb. February. Had to have been February's book. It was a really good book, but the COVID didn't really go with the story. But I liked the COVID because it was intriguing, but it didn't really go with the story.
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John Ryan
Oh, right. We were confused on it for a little bit.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, a little bit. But I don't see as many book covers since I'm doing all the Kindles. But you. But then I've been up. I've been Googling them to when I. And just so you know, if you are new here and a lot of people are asking what the books are, we always say it on the podcast. We always say at the beginning of the month what the next month's book is too. And we will repeat it throughout the month. And then we also have a featured features tab on our Facebook group. And then I also have it pinned on our Instagram so you can find it. And if you're curious about the breakdown, weeks one through three, we just talk some nonsense related to things that are in the book.
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John Ryan
More. More like inspired by.
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Sarah Colonna
Inspired by the book. True.
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John Ryan
And you really need to know.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. So and then at the end of. And the week four, at the end of the month, the fourth Monday of the month is when we recap the whole book. And so you won't hear any spoilers if you're reading along until week four. That being said, we were talking today about how like, okay, Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. That was our January book. That was John's pick. Great book. Easy to have a lot of topics off of. Right. She talked about things in Hollywood, places I'd been, places John had been. We were able to tell stories. We taught all kinds of things. It is interesting when you have a book like this child, then she was gone. About a. Yes. A horrible situation for parents to be in. Missing child.
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John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
So that one is a little bit tougher to make fun. Week one through three podcasts out of exact topics in the book. Therefore, we mix it up a little bit when it comes to that. Although we were talking about this a little bit because I said I just want to talk a little bit about just the fascination with true crime in general because John and I are very big fans of true crime. We're watching. We're always right. If we got a John's like, if we got a date line.
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John Ryan
I mean, I've. I think I've watched all 450 Datelines and. Or listen to the podcast. I think every time a miniseries comes out on Netflix or Hulu, we're the first ones to watch it. We love all that stuff. The Staircase. We watched all 500 episodes of the Staircase and the four different revivals they did. I mean, that's that one every 10 years. Let's come with a new story about the Staircase.
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Sarah Colonna
I know.
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John Ryan
That was a good one, though.
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Sarah Colonna
It was. And didn't they. Did they do a scripted series on it or.
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John Ryan
No, I don't know if they didn't. They should have by now.
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Sarah Colonna
But yeah, I think the one I'm thinking of seemed it was not scripted. It was the documentary, but that was the one where someone went. Someone took a tumble down the stairs. And it doesn't seem like it was an accident, but it. It was. It's interesting because, like, this book. So this book is not true crime. And I tend to not lean towards reading true crime, but I want to watch true crime. I can't explain that to you. That's just how it is. But the subject in this book could seem like a true crime story, right? A kid goes missing for years, can't find whatever. So that's. Unfortunately, very many true crime stories are related to that. And I don't know why it is I find it. I love reading books like this because I know that they're fiction, right? I know that it's made up. Even though I know something terrible things happen all the time. But I know it can get me. It still gets me involved. It still gets me. I still hurt for the characters. I get into it in all the ways it's. They're page turners to me. I couldn't read it if it was. I could not read it if it was true crime. I just don't think I could. But I could totally watch it.
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John Ryan
What's interesting is that I don't think I've ever read like, any kind of, like, true crime stories. But as we said, we watch everything that's true crime on tv and for. Why that's so. It's almost. It's weird because I have like, a harder time watching like, a fictional. Which is kind of sick to watching a fictional, like, horror movie where people die. But I guess it's like. I guess when it's like when you're watching true crime, it's something that's already happened. You're not contributing to it. You're Almost learning from it. That's all. There's always that conversation like, you know, people that watch True Crime, that's like, that's kind of sick, isn't it? And I'm like, I guess, in a way. In a way. But it's almost more like you're, like.
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Sarah Colonna
Learning from it, Learning from it, or. I think in a lot of ways, sometimes in a Dateline, you're. You're. You're getting. You're getting closure on the story, the people. Usually it ends up right with the. The case solved. Usually. Not always.
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John Ryan
That's why I like Dateline. It always ends with, you know, what happened, you know, the prison sentence, you know, everything.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, usually I feel like once in a while there's been a couple.
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John Ryan
Yeah, I guess so.
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Sarah Colonna
There was one not too long ago that it was somebody. It. I think it was about somebody missing, too. And. And it was. And then they ended it with if you know anything about this person, blah, blah, blah. And so it ended with that kind of stuff. In a way, they're getting word out, in a way, like you said. Yeah, it's already resolved. You can't. When you're watching a horror movie and you're watching. You're watching the violence, like, you're not watching the violence usually in True Crime. Right. Because. Yeah, they're not. It wasn't filmed. It wasn't. You know, they're not, I don't know, reenacting it in most cases. I guess they do in some here and there.
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John Ryan
Oh, well, you know, like when we got, like, during COVID we got into some, like, weird shows, and one was Fear Thy Neighbor, where every episode ends with the neighbor killing the other neighbor almost every time. But they reenact it all. Remember how they, like, reenact it all.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
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John Ryan
And I think it was all reenacted in Canada, too. And you could tell when they're like, oh, it's a boot time. You come to the house, they're talking, like, totally normal. And then it's like, oh, it's a boot time. You come to the house.
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Sarah Colonna
I think. Yeah, I think we discussed that a little bit on one of the earlier podcasts, but I. But that show is like, it's so. Yeah, that's another one, though, because when they're. They're. They reenact it. Someone is. Always dies.
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John Ryan
Always dies.
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Sarah Colonna
But it is fictional when they're reenacting it. But then when you. If you turn off the show and you think about, oh, my God, somebody actually went and killed somebody over a parking Spot. But you know, it's always starts with something a little squabble with the next door neighbors and then hits the app, the Absolute Fan.
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John Ryan
That's why I always tell you, babe, I. When we first moved into our new house, the neighbor called and they thought that we had like that our gardener had cut some leaves that fell into their yard or some tree trimmings that fell into their yard, which actually wasn't. It was the city that came and did it. But I was like, just, we'll just go clean him up. I don't need this conversation ending with us getting shot in the face because I watch True Crime, so I'm a good neighbor because all of a sudden it's the tree trimming and the next day I'm getting mad because they parked over the line and then they left their fricking garbage out one day too late. Then I throw the garbage on the front lawn. Then he shoots you in the head. And that's how that show works, guys.
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Sarah Colonna
That is how that show works. It actually, even though it's very dark and, and the reenactments are kind of entertaining because usually you'll see a photo of someone and then they cast someone who's just like the, the, the non. Union. The Canadian version of. Canadian version of them. And. But it is actually, if you think about. It's educational in that sense. It makes you a better neighbor because you don't want shit to go sideways.
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John Ryan
Do you want to remember one of the creepier ones that I remember watching? No one died in this one, but this girl threw like hot coffee on the. A girl across her like hallway's face or something. So that girl went back into her apartment, boiled hot oil. It takes a while to boil hot oil. And then went and threw it on the other girl. Do you remember that one?
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Sarah Colonna
No.
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John Ryan
She had like third degree burn. No, but I'm just saying, like, you know, it takes like 15, 20 minutes to boil oil. Isn't like any point during that time you're like, maybe I shouldn't do this.
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Sarah Colonna
Maybe I should.
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John Ryan
I know, I should settle down. No.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. This seems like a bad. This seems like it's going to end badly. Why am I.
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John Ryan
But I'll.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, I'll.
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John Ryan
I'll watch Dateline all day.
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Sarah Colonna
I know. And I bet. I don't know why that is that I can watch something like that, but then not really read it because anytime I read things like, it's almost like it's more graphic when you read it or something.
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John Ryan
I guess.
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Sarah Colonna
So does that make sense.
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John Ryan
I guess so.
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Sarah Colonna
I know there's.
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John Ryan
I don't have an answer for you, but I know that, like a lot of people, especially now, just because, like, true crime is. I don't think it's ever been more popular and people are like, well, that's like. There's a lot of people saying, oh, that's sick. And a lot of people are like, I don't care. You know what? You know what made it all blow up really huge? Really huge was Making a Murderer came out on Netflix. It just. Everyone blew up on true crime for like, forever. But that was like the number one true crime show of all time.
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Sarah Colonna
It probably was. Yeah. That was. Show was crazy. And then I never. I don't even think I watched the follow up. Wasn't there a follow up afterwards?
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John Ryan
Yeah, it was. It was like. Yeah, I don't think it was as popular. I think it was. It was one of those things that was so big they need to like, make another one. Like Tiger King. It's like, no, we already know what happened. Like what. What more can you add to it?
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, I think it's. It's. I find them riveting and I can't wait to watch them in a way, but I don't like when people talk about them in a. In the way of I. Sometimes people talk about them where it does feel like, oh, you're forgetting the human element of what really happened. Yeah, I can see that. Well, anyway, this isn't a true crime book, and I do find it riveting, and I do. I'm really enjoying it. I think there's a couple twists and turns. I sort of like that. It kind of. You kind of know something from the beginning, which I appreciate. I'm not giving anything away, but you do sort of know something from the beginning. And since I'm a lady who likes to relax and. And know what's coming.
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John Ryan
That's why you like to read the last chapter first.
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Sarah Colonna
I don't do it for. I don't do it for the book podcast and I haven't done it in a long time, to be honest. I haven't. I haven't done it in a long time because I. Well, I mean, I just. I'm just trying to learn patience and I don't ever want to do it for this because I want to talk about the book the way it is laid out now. But one thing that does happen in this book that John and I thought would be kind of fun to talk about is the. The. The parents are Divorced, right?
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John Ryan
Yes.
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Sarah Colonna
And that's. I think it's kind of that. Even though, like I said, it's not a true story. But I think we know that a lot of times when parents lose a child that the marriage tends to fall apart. So we've got, what are our characters names?
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John Ryan
Well, Ellie.
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Sarah Colonna
That's the daughter that's missing.
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John Ryan
That's the daughter that's missing.
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Sarah Colonna
Okay, I'm gonna just Google it. You got quiet. And Laurel. There we go. Laurel. And then Floyd is her new boyfriend. Laurel's boyfriend. And then. But what is the ex husband's name? Why can't I think of the ex husband's name right now? Okay, doesn't matter. They are. But they are hanging out later on. So. Sorry, I need to clear this up because my brain since I started looking for characters names. I just going to drive you crazy? Well, no, but I just need to like lay out what I'm trying to say a little bit better because I distracted myself. Sorry, listeners. Okay, so Laurel and her husband are estranged after losing their daughter. He has moved on. And she has just now gotten her first boyfriend. So they have two other children as well, a son and another daughter, her and her ex husband. So at some point in the story, once she and her boyfriend are being more of an item, they all decide to hang out together. Her, Laurel, her new boyfriend, her ex husband, and his new girlfriend. I don't think, I don't think he's remarried. I don't think he's married to her if I recall, but he might be. Sorry guys, it's been a minute since I finished the book.
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John Ryan
Do you remember I read the book over a year ago?
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Sarah Colonna
Okay, well, anyway, we're not recapping it until the end, but you know what I'm talking about. We got estranged parents and their significant others, and they're all going out to dinner together to celebrate one of their daughter's birthday. And she's like, what the fuck? This is weird. And they basically say, whatever, we don't care. Right?
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John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
Now, John and I were talking about this because this has happened. This happened to me several times in my life. And it was always. It was never weird for them, but it was always weird for me. So. Because my parents.
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John Ryan
Your parents divorced and your dad was married several times, but then he found his person, his soulmate, and they were married for what, 30 years before he passed away. Like he was. They. They were married for a very long time. And your mom has been with Eric since you were like nine, like 40 years.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
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John Ryan
So they, they, they. They are very happy in their relationships. And then you're caught in the middle.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And not even. I mean, it's funny because when my parents split up when I was young, obviously it's different from the book because there wasn't a tragedy that. That drove them apart. It was. Well, there was. Her name was Lori, but.
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John Ryan
Lori Homewrecker.
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Sarah Colonna
But she. I don't know. My dad got married to her a little quickly after my parents divorce. So it's all under investigation.
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John Ryan
Overlap.
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Sarah Colonna
I'm not bad mouthing my father. Rest in peace. He was the absolute best.
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John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
But of course it was young. When I was younger, it was. It was rough and hard on my mom and hard on everybody. But then as we got older and my dad, well, he. After he left his first wife and then his second wife, Carol, whatever, she was fine. She was annoying. There was a couple girlfriends in between. You get, you get the idea. But my Shirley Ann, my stepmom, Shirley Ann, who is the absolute best. And they got married in 95. And so they had a. He just had a few marriages early on. And then he found his woman and he found his soulmate. She really is. And we're very close to her still. So. So my say. I think the first time I remember everyone kind of hanging out was when my sister got married and my dad and Shirley Ann came to the wedding. And I remember looking over at the dance floor, my stepmom and my mom were dancing and. And it was so cute. But I also thought it was weird. Not. It wasn't weird in a bad way, but I just thought, oh, I wasn't expecting to see.
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John Ryan
Right.
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Sarah Colonna
My mom kicking it up with Shirley Ann on the dance floor especially because she just despised his other two wives. But yeah, things were different then. Right? Their. Their relationship was different. I don't think she despised. I mean she despised Lori for, For being. Being around quickly after my parents. I don't think she is a big fan of her for that. And I also didn't like Lori, so that helped my mom not like her. And then Carol was whatever. But Shirley Ann, you know, my mom knew that my. My sister and I really liked her. And so when they came to the wedding, it was fine. Everyone just hung out. Like I said, Shirley Ann and my mom were dancing, blah, blah, blah. But then one time, I remember they. My. My parents came out here. Mom and Eric, my stepdad is Eric. They came out here for. For a vacation. This was. I was still waiting table. So this is kind of early on in My journey to California. And I was working at Mirabel. So it was. I don't know, I was probably my mid-20s. And so they. They were here. And then my dad and Shirley Ann, my dad and my stepmom, they drove up from Orange county, where they were living at the time, to all come have dinner.
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John Ryan
A little double date.
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Sarah Colonna
A little double date at the restaurant that I worked in. I mean, with me. I wasn't working that night.
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John Ryan
I thought you were serving them for some reason.
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Sarah Colonna
No, I. I took that. I took the time off when my parents were here, but I might. I would have preferred to have been serving them, sitting with them, but I. But I wanted them all to try the restaurant. So we. So I wanted my mom and Eric to try the restaurant. So they said, well, we're going to come up and. And the five of us will go to dinner. My mom, my stepdad, my dad, my stepmom. And I was like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Why do you guys want to go to dinner together? And my mom said, why wouldn't we? And I go, I don't know. Why would you? And so this is. This is what I'm talking about from the book, when. When this comes up for them, how I was able to relate to sort of the. The one of the kids kind of going, what? And then later on, it was. It turned out fine. And I remember I was at. We were at the restaurant. And so. Because I work there, I know everybody that works there.
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John Ryan
Yeah. You know, they're all watching and.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And so. And they're all coming by and saying hi. And I'm like, this is my mom. This is my dad. This is my mom. This is my dad. This is my, like.
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John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
Naming all the parents. And I. I was just. At one point, I remember my dad was like, why are you being so weird? And. And I said, I don't know. I just never really thought that the five of us were going to go out to fucking dinner together.
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John Ryan
And also, your dad, he was never once in the time that I knew him ever put in an awkward situation. He just. It's impossible for him to be in an awkward situation.
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Sarah Colonna
That's a good point.
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John Ryan
Like, he just makes everything so, like, everyone's welcome. Everyone's, you know, we're all just here having fun. It was. He never made anything awkward.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, that's a good point. If anyone was going to make things awkward, it would usually be my mom, and it would just be because she would try to make a joke or something. And it Wouldn't land but. Or a woodland. And maybe too well. But like at my wedding, when my. My. When my mom said.
- [26:44]
John Ryan
Oh, my God, she said.
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Sarah Colonna
She said something about, I hope you.
- [26:50]
John Ryan
Guys have a. I hope you guys have a great marriage like mine. Well, not my first one, but my one with Eric. Then your dad spoke right after that.
- [27:02]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And he laughed at that joke. And boy did my mom. My boy. Was my mom proud of herself for that.
- [27:08]
John Ryan
Oh, yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
And. And then. And that's. And the same thing. Even at the. At our wedding. And this is years later. I mean, years after the dinner, years after. They've seen each other throughout the years for different reasons either. When my. My mom and Europe would come out here, we wouldn't all go out and hang out together, but sometimes every once in a while that we would all see each other. But you know, between. Yeah. Like weddings or things. Like, my sisters had a car accident a long time ago, but just like all these different reasons that people would have to get around each other. They've been doing this forever. And at my wedding, when we were. Our wedding. Sorry, John. You were there, too.
- [27:52]
John Ryan
I was. I sure was.
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Sarah Colonna
We were. We were getting on this boat for a family day about family day. And it was just John's closest family and mine.
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John Ryan
And it's basically pretty much the first time they've all been together. Like, our wedding was the first time our parents met.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. It was like his mom, his sisters and brothers and brother, my sister, all my parents. And John's one parent.
- [28:20]
John Ryan
Right. Yeah.
- [28:22]
Sarah Colonna
Hanging out there.
- [28:23]
John Ryan
It took me five minutes to meet all your parents, and I'm like, here's my mom. Only got one.
- [28:29]
Sarah Colonna
Well, I'm down one now, too. Down my dad. So keep a score at home.
- [28:34]
John Ryan
It's three to one.
- [28:39]
Sarah Colonna
Oh, sorry, guys. We have fun with.
- [28:42]
John Ryan
Yeah, we're dark.
- [28:43]
Sarah Colonna
You have to. You have to laugh. So anyway, we're getting on the boat, and my mom and my dad were kind of standing next to each other talking, and I go, remember when you guys used to be married? Like, and I thought it was good for some reason, I thought it was going to be so funny. And they both just stared at me. And I was like, all right, why am I like this? And I don't know why I couldn't just be normal about it. I mean, I was. I would say, over. Look, my dad and my stepdad both walked me down the aisle and. And both expected it and both wanted it to be that way. And. And we're both happy to share that. Nobody felt Any type of way about it. As the kids would say, they. They were both thrilled to walk me down the aisle together. But. Yeah, it's just. It's just so funny how it's almost like the kids, even, no matter how old you are, are the ones that still act weird about the parents.
- [29:39]
John Ryan
I know, but I think we might have talked about this on the show before, but you put a picture of like, both your dads walking down the aisle and you put it up on Instagram. You're like, oh, I'm so fortunate to have two dads that walk me down the aisle. And people are responding like, oh, my God, your family's so progressive. I didn't know you had two dads. But, like, they're not together. Yeah, love is love. Like, no, no, they're not. They're not together. My dad, my stepdad.
- [30:01]
Sarah Colonna
It was so funny because if you knew my stepdad and my dad, you would know that if those two men were gay, they would not be fall in love with each other. They were very, very different men.
- [30:13]
John Ryan
It's so funny though, because I met, obviously met your parents, you know, 11 years ago, and I could never imagine in a million years them being together. No, you know, I mean, like, just.
- [30:25]
Sarah Colonna
Oh, my mom and my dad.
- [30:26]
John Ryan
Yeah, yeah, your mom and your dad. I was like, it makes like, when you saw your dad and Shirley Ann together, your mom and your stepdad, your dad and your stepmom, I'm like, they, like, they. Those people belong together. But I don't know how your mom and your dad ever got along. First of all. First of all, sometimes when you're like, I like quiet. And I think it's because you grew up in a household when you were younger anyways, with two parents who never shut up. Those two people talk more than anyone I've ever met. And if you put them in a house, like, you must just sat at the table and not set up peep for your first nine years of your life. They must not even knew if you could talk.
- [31:02]
Sarah Colonna
You know what? That. Thank you. You're actually just now solving this mystery for me. Because I have wondered where sometimes, I mean, to the point where, like, when I love my mom. My mom is the best.
- [31:14]
John Ryan
Yes.
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Sarah Colonna
And we're super close, but when she talks her face off and yeah, when she comes to visit sometimes I end up almost like, shutting down a little bit in a weird way. Like, I just get so quiet because it's just like, I just know she's.
- [31:28]
John Ryan
Going to talk and she's a world Class talker. Sometimes.
- [31:32]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, she'll.
- [31:32]
John Ryan
She'll carry on for like about like a half an hour straight and then all of a sudden she goes, I forgot what I was talking about.
- [31:42]
Sarah Colonna
And you're right. And my dad is a talker too.
- [31:45]
John Ryan
Yeah. Like it. Sometimes I feel like when I try to get a point across, I have to get across like really, really quick. And I realize now it's because I grew up in a household with six people. I mean, you didn't have that much time. When you're at the kitchen table, you didn't have that much time to get your point across. You had like a few seconds. And if after that no one's listening to you again or someone's talking over top of you.
- [32:03]
Sarah Colonna
Oh, and that's why you kind of panic when you're trying to.
- [32:05]
John Ryan
Yes.
- [32:06]
Sarah Colonna
Point across. Yeah, that's interesting. I never even thought about that either. Really learning a lot about you right now on this podcast. And about myself. Yes, I am. And my sister is a big talker too, so that she can talk too. Yeah. And look, I know I do podcasting and, and stand up and talking for a living here, babe.
- [32:27]
John Ryan
This is the difference. You do podcasting in a room by yourself. You do, you do, you do comedy up on a stage, whereas if anyone else in the crowd talks, they get kicked the fuck out. I mean, it's perfect for you. You have 45 minutes up on stage to get your point across with no interruptions.
- [32:46]
Sarah Colonna
No interruptions. Yeah, that's so funny. But yeah, that's, that's a good point. I don't, I kind of based on what we were talking about with the book and just the, the, the funny thing, the different thing there is, I would say if we're relating it back to the book a little bit, you know, you see, there's part of you that thinks these two, they, they would still be together, her and her ex husband, if it wasn't for what happened to them. Because they're, they have. I'm not giving anything away, in case you haven't read it, but just you can tell that they still have a loving relationship and that the only reason they grew apart for the over tragedy and then, and just she wasn't able to, to get back and, and you, you have the feeling that he would have stuck it out with her if she could have given him the chance.
- [33:40]
John Ryan
You imagine like when they get up to heaven, they're going to meet back with their daughter and daughters would be like, oh, like, why didn't you and dad make it. They're like, because of you, you little shit. Sometimes we do break up because of the kids. What an awful exchange. I think they. I think there's other reasons why they probably broke up. That's what I like to think. Just so they don't have to put that on her.
- [34:00]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. I would imagine that they would probably resist saying such a thing to her.
- [34:07]
John Ryan
I would hope so. When you were. Yeah. Thank you. When you were a kid, were you ever hoping that your parents would get back together? I hear that from kids all the time. Where they almost like. Especially. It was the plot of every kid's movie in the 80s as well as the parents get divorced and the kids are trying to get back together. Remember that?
- [34:27]
Sarah Colonna
Oh, yeah. And then they usually would.
- [34:29]
John Ryan
Yeah. It was like every Saturday morning made for TV movie.
- [34:33]
Sarah Colonna
Right? Yeah. The kids are plotting to.
- [34:35]
John Ryan
So I always wonder if the kids really feel like that and like families with divorce.
- [34:41]
Sarah Colonna
No.
- [34:42]
John Ryan
No. You knew.
- [34:43]
Sarah Colonna
No. No. I mean, I don't think I. I'll be honest. I don't think I thought about it. I was pretty young. I think I was five or six years old. And then I. I remember them telling me. And me being very sad and then moving to Arkansas. We were living in Texas at the time, but because we moved rather quickly to Arkansas, I think I just. Was it. I just knew it was over. Right. Does that make sense? I don't feel like there was any.
- [35:17]
John Ryan
Part of me that thought he wasn't really lingering around. Still picking you up every other weekend?
- [35:23]
Sarah Colonna
No, I would. No, I would fly back to. To Texas to visit him. And. And. And then. And then I had to fly back and go to his wedding to Lori.
- [35:35]
John Ryan
And you wrapped up the flyer. You racked up the miles going to all those weddings. My God.
- [35:40]
Sarah Colonna
Oh, my God. Every.
- [35:41]
John Ryan
Every year and a half to another wedding across the country or a girlfriend to visit. Yeah.
- [35:47]
Sarah Colonna
Dang. Why didn't anyone put me on a frequent flyer program when I was a kid?
- [35:51]
John Ryan
You could have been a 3 million miler by now. Yeah, million miler like you like to brag about. I am a million miler, but 875,000 for me. Delta, if you're listening, I'm getting close.
- [36:03]
Sarah Colonna
And also, I didn't start it. I didn't start that quick enough. When I first started going on the road, like back when I was on Chelsea lately and started going on the road like every weekend headlining. I would just take the most convenient flights at the time. I wasn't sticking to one.
- [36:21]
John Ryan
When we. You and I got Together we both decided, like, we're gonna get those Delta credit card and just go, Delta.
- [36:26]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
- [36:26]
John Ryan
Because right. Fast Eddie from Green Bay, he's like, delta's great. And then we got on Delta. That's, we started going Delta. Delta's the best airline.
- [36:36]
Sarah Colonna
Yes. And he started.
- [36:38]
John Ryan
They're not a sponsor.
- [36:39]
Sarah Colonna
No, they're not. They should be. But they, he started telling us about the credit card or something. And then one time I wasn't sure about something on the credit card and I was like, Eddie, remember? We just get mad at him as if he forced us to, to sign up for a credit card.
- [36:54]
John Ryan
One of my friends, one of my friends emailed one weekend at my golf tournament in Regina. Eddie.
- [37:00]
Sarah Colonna
God, Eddie. But no, yeah, to your point, I don't think, and that's interesting because in this book, I don't think there's really a conversation about that either. As the reader, I, I, I saw that, that they still seemed like they cared about each other. I was reading it that way. I thought, oh man, maybe now that there's. And I'm not going to spoil whether or not it does happen. But there was just a little thought maybe this could end up working out between the two of them. But I don't think you ever really got, you don't get to know the kids quite, quite as well in this. I mean, you do the one sister. I mean you do, you get, you get to know the, the, the, the sister, the son and the daughter a little bit, but you don't ever really get from them that they, I think they've, they're just trying to move on because every, in this case, everyone's trying to move on from a tragedy. Right. So, yeah, I think they're just trying to put it behind them instead of hoping for something that was in the past.
- [38:05]
John Ryan
I got it, I get it. I really got to reread it, but.
- [38:08]
Sarah Colonna
Yep, well, you have time. And I know that you'll be listening to it on your, on your treadmill walks, as you like to do.
- [38:19]
John Ryan
I love a good treadmill walk.
- [38:22]
Sarah Colonna
You know what's funny is speaking of noise, you know that I like loud music to work out too. And we'll be discussing that. We just went to see one of my, one of my go to bands that I like to work out to loudly. You will hear about that on the 5th if you're on Patreon, when the John and Sarah. John and Sarah hit record. Because we went to see Papa Roach over the weekend.
- [38:51]
John Ryan
Roach.
- [38:52]
Sarah Colonna
And we, we want to talk about that. On the. John and Sarah hit record just for a little mix up. So that's your bonus on the fifth. Just some stuff about it and whatnot. But. And John's observations, which made me laugh. But. But I, I've. I have been lately since you told me about the Kindle. So John taught me that we could put our Kindle on our treadmill screen.
- [39:16]
John Ryan
There's. How do we do apps? There's apps on the treadmill. So you can. It's a. It's a. The Peloton. Peloton treadmill. So you can put it. There's apps to watch Netflix or you can watch YouTube TV or the NBA channel, or they're just the. The Kindle app where you can open your books in there and they come up right on the screen and you just flip through them and read them while you're on your podcast or while.
- [39:35]
Sarah Colonna
You'Re on the treadmill and it comes up on the. It can't. It syncs too, right?
- [39:41]
John Ryan
Yeah, it. It syncs.
- [39:42]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, yeah, it syncs with your Kindle just like the Audible app does, which I got rid of Audible and now I'm listening to Spotify. And Spotify doesn't match up, obviously, because it's not.
- [39:50]
John Ryan
Well, once again, you listen to Adam Norwest and he steered you wrong.
- [39:55]
Sarah Colonna
I did. My. Our friend Adam, he. I think it's because he told me because I was paying for too many things. It didn't make sense. Like I'm gonna have Spotify already, but then you can also get books with it. So why am I gonna pay for another app to have books?
- [40:12]
John Ryan
I think when you look deeper into it, it was like one book a month or something, wasn't it? It was like a limited or like 10 hours of listening. There was like a limitation to it.
- [40:20]
Sarah Colonna
What I'm realizing is it doesn't take me a lot to. For someone to talk me in or out of something. It's a good thing that I'm. I'm not like a. A person who likes drugs because I'd just be on him if someone suggested them to me. Because I did. Just when I just went and changed. I don't know. He just said something about Spotify and I was like, you're right. What the am I doing? And then I like canceled everything.
- [40:41]
John Ryan
We do pay for way too many apps and way too many services.
- [40:44]
Sarah Colonna
Yes. But I have been so. A couple times because I've been trying to add one this fascinating. I know guys. One longer. Just. Just steady state cardio, I guess, as they call it just a walk, right?
- [41:00]
John Ryan
Yeah.
- [41:00]
Sarah Colonna
On a hill. Just nothing crazy. I know. And you do it all the time. And I mean, look at his body. So that's what I'm working on. I'm trying to. Yeah. So I have discovered that I actually, I've been using just my Kindle because I couldn't remember how to open the app on the screen. So I've just been reading my Kindle and it's been working just as well. But I think the screen would be better because then I wouldn't have to look down and it's huge. Screen is huge on those treadmills. I am enjoying it. It makes, it makes it go by fast. All look down and I, I did a 45 minute walk and it's over.
- [41:37]
John Ryan
Well, because I usually go on the treadmill for an hour a day but because of Sarah Colonna signing me up for this freaking pool party, I've been on there for two hours a day. You know, gotta get tight a few days now.
- [41:50]
Sarah Colonna
I'm going to Vegas next weekend and there's this big pool party and I basically said to everyone going, well, John Ryan looks great shirtless. So if you have me, you also get him.
- [42:01]
John Ryan
And it's kind of like looking at the sun though. It's, it's pretty, pretty bright white. Like we're looking like fluorescent whites. It's not like a, a tanned Italian stallion. It's just, it's white. There's a lot of white.
- [42:13]
Sarah Colonna
It's very handsome and very buff. And I will on the other, after pimping you out, I will be hiding under a cover up giant hat and not letting anyone see what my situation is. So.
- [42:25]
John Ryan
And rubbing SPF 100 on me and.
- [42:27]
Sarah Colonna
And following you around, spraying you with sunscreen as I do.
- [42:32]
John Ryan
Perfect. Can't wait.
- [42:34]
Sarah Colonna
Do you have anything else to say to the wonderful listeners?
- [42:38]
John Ryan
Nope. I think I'm good.
- [42:41]
Sarah Colonna
Okay.
- [42:42]
John Ryan
Beach Vibes. Beach Vibes by Susan Mallory is your May book and we're getting closer to the beach season, so this is going to be a good one for all you.
- [42:53]
Sarah Colonna
I know. I was going to say that I like that it's called Beach Vibes. It is. And then it's going to. I can't believe we're already picking out a May book. This is all insane. But thank you guys for being here again. Join the book listeners. We keep a features tab running of everything that we're reading. It's also pinned on our Instagram. Join Patreon for the bonus content. It's only $5 a month. And it's super fun. And then you can also watch the video of the regular Monday podcast, which is. It's just fascinating. It's just us sitting here. You see, I'm really selling it. No, yeah, no, people enjoy it, some people. And if you don't want to watch it and you just want the bonus content, then you can also just listen in your. In your Patreon app, too. So anyway, there's a lot for you to do. I hope you guys are all enjoying. Then she Was Gone by Lisa Jewell, and then the Fall Risk by Abby Jimenez is your short story for patreon for the 15th of this month. It's a very quick read, fun one. And we've had listeners suggesting short stories and people were like, oh, someone said, you know, oh, I don't know if you have too many choices or if you take. I said, please, please suggest because it helps us. Because picking out short stories is actually kind of difficult. So if you guys had some that you read, let us know. We've had. We've all the ones we've been doing so far have been super fun. So. All right, thank you guys and see you next week.
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John Ryan
Bye.
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Sarah Colonna
The book list, the book lisp the book list the book lisp the book lisp.