← The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
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It's Week 3 of your April Book Lisp. With no spoilers until week 4, Jon and Sarah discuss topics inspired by this month's read, “Little Secrets” by Jennifer Hillier. Sarah’s mom wrote a letter to Showtime (they didn’t answer). She also wrote one to Leno (he did answer). Jon tells a sweet story - and gets a little choked up. Plus, discount chicken, accidental wine clubs, and more. Enjoy!
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Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.
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And I'm John Ryan.
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And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.
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The Book Lisp.
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Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Hi, John, how are you?
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Hello. I am great. How are you?
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What's going on with your voice?
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I don't know.
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It was just a temporary. Hello?
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I don't know. Yep, I'm here.
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It is Friday night when we're recording this. We are getting ready to go out to dinner with a friend, and that's that. Have a weekend. We're going to the Angels game on Saturday. Sunday, no plans, which we're very excited about. I haven't been home for a weekend other than Easter. In a minute, so. So what do you think?
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Probably sleep in, then go to the bar.
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There we go. Plans, Big plans. Probably watch some baseball, maybe some tv. We started watching this show called Big Mistakes on Netflix the other night. So good. With Dan Levy, Lori Metcalfe, who is one of my favorite actors of all time. Yeah, she's just. She's one of those actresses, like, it's the best career of all time. She's just always worked. Always worked. Done movies, huge roles in roles in television plays. She's just. She's always worked and she's a dream, dream actor job, slash she should have that role because she's fucking fantastic at it and love her. So. Yeah, it's a good show. It's our. That's our book list. TV recommendation of the week.
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We're three episodes in and it's very, very good so far.
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Oh, I thought we were four episodes in.
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Well, we're on number four.
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Okay. Well, we'll be in four, five, six. God knows, by the time you guys listen to this episode, might even be done with the series. So welcome to your week three of the April book list, where we are discussing, not discussing, Little Secrets by Jennifer Hillier. Because we don't discuss the book until week four. And in between, we just have topics based off the book, but nothing that'll give it anything away. Remind them of your May. Pick, John.
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Summer Romance by Annabel Monaghan.
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Yes. And you loved it, right? You've already finished it.
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I. I liked it. Yes, it was. It's a very. If you've been following us for a while, it's a very different John pick. It's a very me pick. You know, just romantic.
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Yeah.
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Everyone ends up together at the end. The way I Like it.
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Why are you spoiling the whole thing?
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Because all my books end the same, baby.
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Well, on that note, my, this pick, April's pick, was a very Sarah pick. It was. I, I've, I don't think I've missed the mark so, so far on my picks, but as far as my favorite writing styles, Little Secrets has it. Did it. It hit everything I like in a psychological thriller.
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So it's a real psychological thriller.
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Yeah, it's one of my favorites that I picked so far. So interestingly enough or not interestingly enough. John and I were talking last night about a book that we're both reading I just finished. This is not a book list pick yet.
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It might be, though.
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It might be, but I will say after I finished it, I don't think it's going to be so. This is Alice Feeney, my husband's wife. Alice Feeney is a fantastic author. We've done a book by her before. The name of it escapes me at this second.
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Ms. Simon.
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Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look it up while we're talking, but I'll say
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I am, I am halfway through. And it's, it's all over the place in, in a good way so far, but I am 50% of the way through and I have no clue.
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Oh, sometimes I lie. That was the book. Yeah. And, and I loved that pick and I love her. She's a fantastic author. So it's really not. It's funny because you're halfway through. And I had, I was at the right at the beginning, I was like, this is going to be a book list pick. Halfway through. I was like, this is never going to be a book list pick. 75% of the way through, I was like, this is going to be a book list pick. And then at the end, and this is so this is. There's no spoilers. Obviously this is even a book that we're talking about, but just for fellow readers, I loved the book so much, but the ends got so complicated for me personally. And so I'm curious to see what other listeners think. I'm not going to pick it for. I don't. I should, I guess I should say never. I shouldn't. I should never say never because I don't want to say I'll never pick it and then pick it. And then you guys have given your thoughts. So maybe I shouldn't do that, but maybe I just will. Because the only reason I don't want to pick it is because there was so many moments at the End where I couldn't. I had to kind of piece things together and I like that. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. I just. I don't think it's going to be a book list pick. And it's not for lack of me loving the book book. It's for how much I had to kind of go back and think and back and think and then try to tie together, which I think can make for in interest. Interesting discussion. So I shouldn't. That's why I should keep it open to a book list pick. Now what am I doing? Now what am I. Now what am I doing to everybody, I'm making them try to decide whether or not they want to comment. Maybe it's going to be a pick Wednesday. I don't know. I'm all over the map. But this is what reading does to me. Sometimes I get hyper involved in a book and I will say kudos to Alice Feeney for how involved I got in that book. And this is again, not anything we're reading right now. Nothing that you guys have to be reading. It's just my general thoughts on a book that just came out. And it, it. I was so involved that at the end I was going back and backtracking. But I was also sort of almost tracking her work to see if the. If the twists fit each other. And they did. But some things confused me. And so sometimes it makes for a complicated book club pick. Right?
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Yeah. Well, I. Well, or it can make for a really good book.
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Good club. I know.
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But I'm halfway through and I have no clue where it's going at all. I was like, this is all over the place. Yesterday I literally asked him like, is this some sci fi shit? Is it going to be some sci fi shit? Because. Tell me. Because I'm going to stop reading. If it's going to be some kind of. I know, like aliens come down and change the dynamic. That's what it feels like it's doing right now. It feels like it's like a lost. You know, the show Lost. It feels like some of that shit's going on right now. Maybe a little paradise.
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I will say, John, something crazy is going on. Yeah, he did ask me that. And I could tell in his face that he's. He was like, I don't want you to give me a spoiler, but. But if, if this is the direction, just tell me because I want out. I don't. This is not my kind of My cup of tea. And I said, it's not the direction at all. It's not. The twists are great. It's just the twists are great. I don't know how else to explain it without. I mean, we're not reading it, so it feels insane that we're just spending this much time on it, but the twists are great. It's just that it's almost like one too many. Or not one. One. One twist that goes. You go, wait, what? And then you kind of have to start backtracking. And. And then when I did backtrack, I was like, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. Because the things that I thought she might have. Of course I'm thinking that she. Up. Of course she didn't. But, you know. But the things that I thought she might have said that she. That could have given something away that didn't. I was like, no, she didn't do that here. She. She did make the right wording here. But there's a whole narrative thing that I would be interested in the book listeners chiming in on. So that's why it might still be one one day. And then we'll just leave it at that.
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Okay.
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We can't keep talking about a book that we're not covering, but we do love books in this.
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Okay.
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And on this podcast. Okay, right now, we're reading Jennifer Hillier's Little Secrets, one of my favorite picks so far. Oh, and then, by the way, I just started. I wasn't ready to start John's book because it's still April. And as we have told you guys many times, sometimes I start too early. I blow through the book, and then when it comes to book review time, I have to review it by rereading it or doing it on audio. So I try to save it for reading closer to the time, you know, reading a little bit at a time until closer to the date we'll do the full review. So I started one last night. I didn't tell you this. We were laying in bed next to each other, and you didn't know what I was doing other than reading, but I was reading a book called it's not Her. Mary Kubica.
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Radzinski.
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Mary Radzinski? No. One of our favorite comedians. Slash. My other podcast host on Are youe My podcast. No. Mary Kubica. I think that's how you say it. K, U, B, I, C, A. I've read several books by her. I really like her. We've never done her on the book list, I don't think. But It's a pretty new book. It's called It's Not Her. And it's got me, like, a little annoyed and really intrigued, which I. Those are the things that I like in a psychological thriller because.
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Combo for you.
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Yeah. I'm annoyed with the person that's sort of trying to help and protect people because I feel like she should have done certain things diff. A different way. But then who are. I think.
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I think that's kind of how you fell in love with me. A little annoyed and a little intrigued.
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It's how we keep going, babe. Anyway. Anyway. Curious if anyone else is reading that, but it's. I think it came out in February or March. Okay. Let's talk about. Oh, and also come see me in Las Vegas in August, August 3rd through the 9th, at Brad Garrett's Comedy Club. See me in Batavia, Illinois. Illinois. Oh, my God, I know. Illinois at Batavia at the Comedy Vault In Batavia, the 26th through the 28th. Nope. Hold on. Jesus Christ. 24th through the 26th. So Batavia, Illinois, Comedy Vault, September 24th through the 26th. August 3rd through the 9th at Braggart's Comedy Club in Vegas. I do a week there, a little residency there. It's great. More to come, some in between, I'm sure, and some after. But I'll get those out as soon as possible. Follow us at the book list on Instagram. Join the book list winners on Facebook. And we do have a Patreon where we do three episodes a month for only $5. We do a short story which is super fun. We discuss discovered really fun authors that way, authors we hadn't read before. We just did a one by another one by Daniel Hurst. So now we've done two short stories by Daniel Hearst, which means I think we have to do a full story by Daniel Hurst soon, which of course would have to be my pick, but we've loved his short stories and we do those on the 15th of every month. And then on the 5th and the 25th, we just do random fun podcasts. So there's a lot of fun to be had over there. And okay, so subjects based on little secrets by Jennifer Hillier that we haven't talked about that won't give any spoilers. One of them, John, is there's a mention of Ray Donovan TV show.
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Yes. Great show. If you've never watched it, people.
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Such a good show. Such a good show. I don't know if you guys saw it, watched it. Great show. Kind of a. I guess it ended abruptly, but it did have several seasons.
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It Ended a little abruptly and they tried to make a movie after and that was the movie. We were so excited about the movie. I thought we was going to wrap up type about a bunch of loose ends and the movie just fell flat.
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I sort of forgot they did the movie because it wasn't good.
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Well, we, we would have all forgot.
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They just put on Showtime or was it.
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Was it Netflix? Showtime? Well, yeah, I think it was. It was just. It wasn't in the theater that I know of. They put it out.
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They didn't do it wasn't.
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It wasn't great and it wasn't what we needed.
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It just should have ended where it ended, probably. But this is, listen, this is what we say about a lot of shows. And I've been personally on a show where I'm like, oh, we should have had another season or your show should
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have had another season.
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And. And I also see shows where I think they should have more seasons and then they go and do a thing where I. So hard to say,
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has there ever been a show that just ended perfectly? Well, has there ever just been a show where everyone's like, yeah, like I remember like after Sopranos, everyone was so mad. After Seinfeld, everyone was so mad. Everyone's just like, no one's ever happy with the ending of a show.
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What I liked about or Seinfeld was they just did something ridiculous.
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Ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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They all went to prison for a year.
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Yeah.
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Like it's just like off the wall. Oh, Friends had a pretty good ending.
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I. I was gonna say, I think the show that ended the best was Friends because that was very ra.
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Had to be together. They had to leave the. The apartment.
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Yeah, I thought that. I think. I'm sure there would be somebody that would complain, but as a huge Friends fan and is someone who loves just television in general, that's. I mean I loved the Sopranos so much, but yeah, I had some beef with the ending because I want. You want some closure? This and that. I thought that Friends gave us all the closure, all the things, all the emotions. Let us see people be emotional. You can even see the actors being emotional. They were trying, you know, I thought, I mean I thought that was maybe the best ended. It was for a long running series.
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They ended with a really good joke as well. When they're walking out the door, everyone. Everyone puts their key on the door on the, on the little counter.
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Okay.
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Very emotional. And then they go, do you guys want to go get a coffee? It says, sure. Where do you want to go?
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Yeah.
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Or I'm paraphrasing here, but, like, where do you want to go? It's like the. Half. The entire 10 years took place in Central Perk.
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Yeah. And the fact that they all had the key was. Yeah. So I. Yeah, I think that was a good ending. Ray Donovan. Yeah. It didn't end the way we wanted, but you know who didn't really end the way they wanted was my mom.
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Your mom really was upset about this? So upset that.
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My mom loved Ray Donovan, guys. And this is why, when it was brought up in the book, I knew this had to be a topic John and I had to talk about, because she loved Ray Donovan so much. So much so that when they. That my first of all, my stepdad and her, they've been married since I was, I don't know, 10 or something. They've been married a very long time.
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Over almost 40 years or something.
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Yeah.
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Living together forever.
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Been together forever. And my. My stepdad does the Ray Donovan walk. And if you. If you guys haven't seen the show, do you even watch a couple seconds? I guess it's. Is it Ray Donovan himself that he's impersonating?
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, he does his walk. It's very funny. We enjoy it. We. My mom gets a kick out of it. Keeps the marriage alive. She. He does it for us. We get a kick out of it. But when they ended the show, my mom was upset and she thought they needed another season. So she wrote a letter to Showtime complaining that they had abruptly pulled the plug on her favorite show. And she. She. They don't know what they're doing. They don't know what's doing over there. They don't know what the people want. And she was mad. The same year, the show that I was on called Insatiable on Netflix didn't end up getting picked up for another season. Had two seasons. We didn't get a third. And so when my mom told me how angry she was that Ray Donovan didn't get a season and she wrote a letter to Showtime, I said, did you happen to write one to Netflix about Insatiable not getting a season three? And she said, no. Just no.
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No.
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Just no. Just not passionate about it. Just didn't give a. And I'm teasing here because my mom is the. My biggest supporter, and I love her so much, but I was like, I'm sorry you took the time to write fucking Showtime. And believe me. You think she wrote an email? I mean, probably. She probably wrote an email, but also
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said, okay, but I think this is A handwritten letter.
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Yes.
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Stamped envelope sent to Mr. Showtime in Hollywood.
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Yes. Because she also wrote one to Jay Leno once, and it ended up being read on the Tonight show by Jay Leno. And when I appeared on the show. So just to be fair, my mom has broken through that glass ceiling or whatever you want.
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That's a very sweet story.
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Oh, yeah. I was on Chelsea lately. Chelsea was on the Tonight Show. My mom wrote a letter to Jay Leno complaining that I should also be on the Tonight Show. And we. And the guy that produced the Tonight show was a friend of mine. And he actually saw the letter, and he was like, oh, my God. Your mom wrote a letter saying that you're funnier than Chelsea, even though she loves Chelsea, which she does love Chelsea so much. And it was all that. It was really funny. Long story short, when I ended up getting on the Tonight show, my mom was in the audience, and he paraphrased, like, read the letter back to her, and they put the camera on her. I mean, you can't ask for a better moment than that. So my mom's. I'm just saying my mom's letters can come through sometimes, and I wish she would have written one about Insatiable.
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She must have been the most famous people person in Farmington the day after she was on the Leno show.
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Yeah, she still.
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She must have eaten that shit up.
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Oh, she loved it. Honestly, she's not even that way. She's more like. She got to come. She couldn't believe it. I remember I kind of scolded her when she first wrote the letter, because I don't think she expected anyone to really read it, but she did. You know, she. She didn't expect anyone I knew to read it. So when someone I knew read it and some of the wording in it, I was like, mom can't, like, write people I know and say that Chelsea isn't as funny as me. And she loves Chelsea. So she was just trying to say, like, what about Sarah? That was her take. She never expected to, like, get back to me or be read on air. And by the way, nobody should expect that, because that's not normal. It's not. It was. It was Hollywood's huge. But it was just a small enough world at that moment that the guy that worked on the. Bob Reed, Love him. Worked on the Tonight show, also worked on Chelsea. Like, he just happened to be in the mix and happened, like, Jay Leno actually made people read his mail. That's the. That's actually the. That's Actually, the randomness of the whole story is most people don't read their snail mail.
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I think it's so cool, though, the way that parents, like, your parents are like, my parents, my dad, my mom, how they stood up for us, and we didn't even know.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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Like.
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Like, I had. I played. I played. My first year of basketball was in 12th grade because that was the first time I was able to play basketball. I'd played growing up, like, recreationally, like, for fun. But I quit hockey in 11th grade. So my senior year, I tried to, like, try out for the team. We were, like, one of the top 15 teams in Canada, so we were really good. I somehow made it. Within two weeks, I was starting on the basketball team. I absolutely loved it. I didn't really know what I was doing, but I became, like, pretty good. It's really cool. And they had this. We had this game where the parents turned on the coach. Our head coach. He wasn't a teacher. He was just there. Jason security. Great guy. The parents, like, turned on him. They're, like, fighting during the game. It was like, a whole fucking mess. And then he told me this story 10 years later. He goes, after the game, your dad called me, and he goes, I don't know if you're doing a great job or a complete job, because I know nothing about basketball, but all I know is John loves playing for you, and he's. He's become. He loves basketball because of you now.
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Oh, how sweet is that? Oh, are you getting a little choked up, babe? Okay, well, now I am, too. Oh, do we need to record next to each other so I can hug you from now on?
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No, I thought it was cool to hear that story 10 years later. And he goes, the coach, he's like. That meant so much to me because your dad was obviously like, I don't know. What if you're doing great, Are you doing bad? But my son loves you?
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Yeah. Oh, it's a very sweet story. Anyway, back to psychological thrillers and murder and. Are you okay? Yes. Me too. All right. Sometimes you get a little choked up doing a podcast about books with your husband and your wife, and you're talking about. Anyway. Okay. You want me to try to make you laugh?
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Yes.
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Okay. So there's a lot of references to Portland in this book because they live in Seattle, as we mentioned, we don't always mean to pick books that take place in Seattle, but it happens a lot.
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But a lot come from it.
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Husband flies to Portland a lot, and there's a couple references where he flies to the Hotel Monaco. And. And I think that's where he was.
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Kimpton.
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Yes. Well, that's where he's photographed with his girlfriend when the PI accidentally stumbles on him with his girlfriend. Doesn't even know that. She's trying to track him down with the girlfriend, but she says he's coming out the Hotel Monaco, talking, blah, blah, blah. They track it back. Turns out he's staying there with his girlfriend, Kenzie Mackenzie. Blah. So John and I were once. So we used to stay. I mean, as you guys know, he has a baseball team in Portland, Portland Pickles. We have the soccer team in Portland, men's soccer team, Portland Bangers. And now the women's soccer team, the Portland Cherry Bombs, who will be kicking off, blowing up.
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People blowing up.
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Get your growing fast and get your merch. That's all going fast.
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Get your merch.
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So they start in May. So we spent a lot of time in Portland. John spends more time in Portland because he's always there working, dealing with the teams, all that stuff, supporting. But one time I went there to visit John during pickle season and he was staying at the Hotel Monaco. As mentioned in Little Secrets by Jennifer Hillier. I was. We were staying at the Hotel Monaco. John went. He had to do like a whole day, right? You were going to the whatever. You were working.
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He was probably sponsors, ballpark stuff, staff stuff, you know, I'm a real working man for three months of the year, you guys.
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But he wasn't. The point is, I didn't have to be at the game until it started at seven. He was. He started at noon with meetings and merch stuff and like he said, sponsors, whatever. So I'm. I'm just tooting around Portland. I don't know what that means, but I'm just tooting around Portland. Yeah, I'm tooting around Portland. Having a nice day. It's lovely city. And then I go back to the Hotel Monaco. I get myself ready and I walk into the lobby at say 5pm because it's about time for me to look for Uber to get out to Walker Stadium where the Portland Pickles play. Come see us this summer, home of your Portland Pickles. Pickles Baseball.com. so I go down to the lobby and what do you know? They're doing a wine tasting in the lobby of the Hotel Monaco. And they said, they. They see me walking by and they go, oh, you staying here? I go, yeah. They go, you want a little wine? I said, well, what. What the do you think I want. Of course I want some wine. So I have a couple of glasses of wine samples. They say, but they poured them pretty good. They poured them pretty good. And I. I think it was a local winery.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And so they had samples out because there was, like, the local business supporting a local winery. Great. I have a few little samples in the. The free happy hour. Right. And I say, free, because what happens two seconds later is they say, do you want to sign up for the wine club? And I said, I sure do. And next thing I know, I've signed up for a wine club in Portland. I. I think they were mailing it. They were sending it to us at home. So it's. But. But I didn't know the name of the wine club. I didn't know how many wines I was getting. I didn't know how much it cost. I just know that I think I had an empty stomach and three samples. I'm a lightweight sometimes. Three little samples. And next thing I know, I sign up. And we got home. I think it was like two or three months later, we just get a shipment of wine. And John said, what is this? And I said, I don't know. And he said, it looks like he came from Portland. He thought maybe the pickle sent it to him. I said, I think I signed up for a wine club.
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You know what? I think you had to cancel that wine club because it was a summer where it was like 105 degrees every day in Portland, which is unusual. And they couldn't send the wine. Remember that? They kept on being like, hold and hold and hold and hold. Then they sent it. We weren't home. It just became a whole thing. But we are still members of three wine clubs.
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We are. So I did have to cancel that one just because of the. Yeah. They said the temperature wise, they couldn't send it. And then you had to be home to accept it because it's liquor and this and. And it just became a whole thing. And I don't even remember how I canceled it, but I think I might have just had to cancel my credit card in my bank account.
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Move.
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Is that why we moved?
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That's why we moved. That hotel is no longer a Kimpton, I believe, because it was a Hotel Monaco is a Kimpton. And now it's a. It's called Royal Sonesta. But we used to stay there quite a bit when I first. When we first bought the Portland pickles back in 2000. Oh, my God. 2016. We've only played for 10 years. Now.
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Wow.
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B
And they used to have an afternoon happy hour every afternoon for whatever it was, three to five or whatever. You go down there, you get a glass of wine on the house in the lobby. So we had this owner when we first bought the team, my buddy. The first year we owned like 25% of the team. Then we own 50% of the team. And then like three years later, the third year, we own 90% of the team. We still own 90% of the team. We have one other partner that owns 10%, but we had this other owner when we first bought it. And he was a little. A little. Little swindler. He was a little prick. And so I'm at the happy hour one day. Cause I'm staying at the Hotel Monaco, and Bill walks in. Bill, how do you do?
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A
You want to say his name? Dr. Shoe? You want to say his name?
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B
His name was Chill. Gil. Phil. Philip.
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A
Phillip.
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B
His name was Philip. So Philip walks in. Hey, what are you doing? What's up? You're not staying here. You have an apartment across town that we fucking pay for you to stay in. What are you doing? He goes, we're. Well, it's. It's free happy hour here from three to five. I go, buddy, for the people that are staying here. You come here every afternoon from 3 to 5, you get free happy hour. You. That's not how this works, you idiot.
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A
You know what? It's. People like that, they ruin everything. This is. I just check out. It does. But I just read an article about how people do that at breakfast at hotels. They go in, they slip into the residence in because they know what's different doing. They know. They got a. A little.
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B
When I was broke, I thought about Buffet.
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A
Yeah, I. Yeah.
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B
Did it. I never did it.
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A
I'm torn on if people should do it or not. I say if you really need. I know, but if you're real hungry and you're broke, and I'm not saying you bring a family and you're broke,
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B
it's not up to a broke and a broke hungry hotel to feed you.
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A
Well, I'm just saying they can spare a little bit of pancake batter. But no, I don't think that people should do it on the regular just for funsies. I'm just saying if someone's real desperate, you know, I would understand. And I'm not going to be. But again, overdoing it is what ruins it for everybody. Then one hungry person can't go in and get it and get a little sympathy because everyone else fucking ruined it by being too selfish. So I don't know the answer. John, now you got me all worked up.
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B
Okay, I'm sorry.
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A
Let's talk about. Oh, so speaking of broke and hungry, there's a point where she talks about. So I wanted to ask you, is this a Canadian? Didn't you. You said this. She's a Canadian author.
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B
Definitely Canadian author.
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A
Okay, so she mentions a place called the Cash and Carry. Is that a Canadian place?
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B
No, I think that's just like a. Like a normal pawn shop, isn't it? I think it's a regular name for a lot of pawn shops.
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A
No, she's going for food.
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B
Oh, then I don't know the Cash and Carry. I thought that was like a pawn shop.
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A
No, she says the Cash and Carry and she's talking about that. She goes in there to get chicken
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B
and so it's like a grocery store.
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A
Yeah. And then she says, that's Kenzie. And she says, what's his name? Is it Daniel? Derek? She says that he's grossed out because he's like, here's some money. Go get. Go get food at Whole Foods or whatever. So I don't know unless I misread it. And she was going into the Cash and Carry to get money to go to get food, and he was like, here's some cash to go get food. Maybe you're. Maybe so. Maybe you're right. Either way, she's broke, trying to get groceries. Okay, so it sounds like.
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B
Like a wholesale type, a whole. A wholesale business model in which goods are sold for a warehouse style premises. Almost like a Costco.
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A
Okay, so. So it's a real place. Or maybe she made up the name of the place but took it off of things that exist. Anyway, I was trying to get to. When I was in college, my now my stepdad worked at the Tyson Foods. Okay. And he was a. He started cooking the rice. He started off cooking rice. He worked his way up and then he was personnel manager. And so he hired and fired people. Had a stressful job. Tyson, you can imagine a lot of, you know, a lot of people.
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B
Huge, huge company in Arkansas.
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A
Yeah. And. And in Arkansas specifically, it's even more. Yeah. More personal and personalized, but great. Retirement. He got to retire when he wanted to and you know, stocks and all that thing. Anyway, you guys don't need me to tell you about my stepdad's life, but
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B
golf's all the time. Lives a nice life.
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A
When I was in college, there was a. There was like a. I forget the name of it. So I Am. Forgive me. I'm gonna.
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B
Was it like the Tyson, like, employee store?
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A
Yeah. Yeah. And that's why this made me think of it, because it was discount Tyson employee store. I don't know if it's still Tyson apparel company. Oh, company store. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know what it was called. It doesn't matter. And even if. Even if it doesn't exist, but there was a store that I could go into because my stepdad worked there, and I could get discount chicken, and it. And it ran out.
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B
Normally, no one wants that.
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A
No.
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B
But in this case, it's.
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A
You want it real bad. But if you. If you really think about it, it was like, okay, it was just gonna expire in the next day or two or it was nothing. You weren't. Obviously they weren't giving you anything bad. But it was. It was your. It was like last chance chicken. That's the best way I can describe it. But it was awesome for me. Broke as a college student that my stepdad was like, you know, I had access to this store where I could go buy that was about to expire and it would be my.
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B
It was it all, like, 50 off or something?
- [34:14]
A
Yeah, it was. Yeah. And I. I joked that it was all about to expire. I don't think that it necessarily all was, but it was like, everything was way cheaper. It was like the employee discount Tyson store. But I was able to go because my stepdad worked there. So it was, you know, immediate family or whatever. But anyway, discount chicken. Well, you know what? My next book and.
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B
Perfect. One of my biggest regrets. When I played. When I played in the NFL, I had an endorsement deal with Nike for, I don't know how long, almost a decade. And, yeah, Sarah misses that could be. Go on there and buy whatever we wanted on my account. And there was a Nike employee store in Eugene, Oregon. Yeah. Has to be in Eugene origin, I'm sure. Oregon. And I never went. So apparently just a store with 50% off everything in the store, like Jordans and Air Force ones, everything. The whole store was 50% off for family. And I never went. And I regret that because as it was, we already got. I mean, we had Sarah and I, we had to buy, like, whatever we wanted every year. And it was all for free because of my endorsement deal. It wasn't.
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A
It was like.
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B
It was like, very, very small. But.
- [35:35]
A
Well, no, but they loaded his account with, I'd say, what, five grand?
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B
Anywhere from five to ten, depending on the year.
- [35:42]
A
Yeah, a year. And if that doesn't sound like a lot for a year, but if you think about it and you go on and I mean, Nike's not cheap, but if you go on and you buy a couple hundred dollars worth, you know, I would buy a couple workout outfits and so would he. I mean, you, you, you almost couldn't spend it all.
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B
Yeah. I mean, think if you, you go and like splurge and buy five pairs of
- [36:10]
A
family, too.
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B
I have golf clubs. I have everything. Because like that money, year after year, after a decade, that. That adds up to a lot of. A lot of Nike stuff. I still have a lot of Nike stuff in my closet. But I do miss that.
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A
Yes, but.
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B
But I should have went to the employee store at least one time while I was still an employee.
- [36:29]
A
Are you asking me if I missed Discount Chicken?
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B
Yes, that was what I was trying to get to. Yes, yes, I would like to go to Discount Chicken. Does he still have access to discount chicken?
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A
I don't think so. And I don't know that it's still there. I just, I remember. I remember a very specific store that we would go into. And I don't know if it's even there anymore. I'll have to ask him.
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B
Well, you know what? My grandmother, she worked at sears for like 25 years or something like that. And we used to get a discount at Sears for. I forget what it was like 20, 25% off. And then even when she retired, we still got that and she is still alive. I should run this by her and see if we still get a discount at Sears. Is Sears still a thing?
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A
I don't know. When I hear Sears, all I think is, put on your Sunday best, kids. We're going to Sears.
- [37:20]
B
I remember like before Christmas, the Sears Cal. The Sears catalog would come. You pick out all your Christmas gifts in the Sears catalog? Yes, those were the days, my friends. And now my grandma's 98. I don't think she still has her Sears card. And I don't know if there is a Sears, but we need to look into this.
- [37:41]
A
Yeah, we can. But remember the, in the Brady Bunch movie when they go to Sears?
- [37:47]
B
Like the, the one from like the mid-90s?
- [37:51]
A
Yeah, I don't know the movie.
- [37:53]
B
Okay, like 30 years ago, the new
- [37:58]
A
one, Brady Munch movie was. Yeah, it was. I guess it was from the 90s.
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B
94.
- [38:06]
A
Okay, whatever. It was a great movie.
- [38:09]
B
I'm trying to guess what year it was from. Why are you getting so defensive? I'm trying to guess what year it's from.
- [38:12]
A
I don't know. You're yelling.
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B
You're not telling me what year it's from.
- [38:18]
A
The 90s. 95. Okay.
- [38:21]
B
I guess 94.
- [38:23]
A
Okay.
- [38:23]
B
Are my cheeks red?
- [38:25]
A
Moving on. Oh, okay. I want to talk about this with you because are the Barenaked Ladies a Canadian band?
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B
Mm.
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A
And are they super popular in Canada?
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B
They were. They were in the 90s. I think they still are to some extent, but the 90s, you know, million dollars. And they. And they had a big hit that was on the American Pie soundtrack, which is like in. What is that? What? 1999, Chickadee, China, the Chinese chicken walking Exposure, no lights on. Tantric. Like Stantric. Do you remember that one, babe?
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A
Oh, I remember it. And now I remember why I hated it.
- [39:17]
B
I now you should remember why you love it.
- [39:20]
A
Now I watch.
- [39:22]
B
No lights on. I think that's. That was like the opening song in. In American Pie. Maybe it's American Pie too. I don't know.
- [39:31]
A
I don't know. But I'll tell you what, I hate that song. I hate it. I don't like the way they say Chinese chicken. I don't like the way you do.
- [39:39]
B
You know that song when they go under there, they go, haha, I just made you say underwear.
- [39:43]
A
I do like that song. Just made you say underwear. Yeah. What is that song?
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B
Can't recall right now, but once you
- [39:52]
A
get a line, think, oh, pinch me. That's a good song.
- [39:55]
B
There you go.
- [39:56]
A
Okay. I like that song. I like their song. Brian Wilson. I like that song.
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B
Lying in Bed.
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A
Just like I like that song. Other than that, like the song that you are singing that may. That made them, I think is one of their biggest hits. Probably could be. Especially because it was an American Pie, I think, super annoying.
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B
Okay, well, if I Had a Million Dollars was the hit that got them onto the main stage, if you will.
- [40:25]
A
Okay. And I don't like that song either. No one does, but they do you like it?
- [40:31]
B
No, I hate that song. But back in Canada, it was like on the road when they first hit. That song was on the radio every 20 minutes. It was crazy.
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A
And what's the other. What now? I'm not comparing these two bands at all. So nobody yell at me. Canadians don't yell at me. Because what's the very famous band and the lead singer died not too long ago.
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B
Blues Travelers.
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A
No, no, no. The Canadian band.
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B
Tragically Hip.
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A
Yes.
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B
Not even close. Not even close.
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A
That's why I started.
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B
I'm gonna turn my head and spit to the side if you compare those two bands.
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A
What did I start with, John? I said, I'm not comparing these two bands. I said, these are very different. I'm not comparing.
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B
But you say, like, with all due respect.
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A
I never said with all due respect.
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B
I don't want to insult you.
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A
I didn't say that. Okay, roll the fucking tape. I never said any other thing you said.
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B
I don't want to compare these bands, but I'm going to compare these bands.
- [41:30]
A
No, I was.
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B
So the biggest band in the history of Canada is the Tragically.
- [41:36]
A
Yes. And I was trying to say that there's some bands that I have learned about that I didn't know before that are Canadian bands that are hugely popular. And I was like, that's one that I thought was so good. I love them. And then there's other people, bands. You don't know where they're from. You find other whatever. I mean, there's a huge amount of talent out of Canada. I didn't know that the Barenaked Ladies were Canadian and I didn't like them before that. So there's no comparison here. I was just trying to have a conversation.
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B
I don't know.
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A
And you got.
- [42:08]
B
I don't even have the same lead singer anymore. The lead singer got caught for like cocaine or something. The US.
- [42:14]
A
Oh, now he sounds cooler.
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B
There's something about cocaine.
- [42:18]
A
Who? The Bare Naked Ladies.
- [42:20]
B
Yeah. Lead singer. Go lead singer. Bare Naked Ladies. I don't know if it's even the same guy anymore.
- [42:24]
A
Oh God, he's got you guys. He's making me. He's making me Google a lot of stuff during this. Do you like one week? Is that.
- [42:33]
B
Is that one week's good song?
- [42:37]
A
It's not bad. Bare Naked Ladies lead singer. It says Ed Robertson, currently singer has the role since band's formation in 88 and. Yeah.
- [42:51]
B
Oh, okay.
- [42:53]
A
Yeah. You try to. Something he didn't do?
- [42:55]
B
No. I thought he had some run ins. I thought he wasn't the lead singer for a while.
- [42:58]
A
What's his former lead singer was a co founder from 88 to 2009.
- [43:04]
B
Yes.
- [43:05]
A
Currently singer Ed Robertson from 2009. So I don't know. Okay, why was Stephen Page like kicked out? Hold on. Tumultuous 2008 that included his arrest for cocaine possession.
- [43:19]
B
I feel so vindicated.
- [43:21]
A
You are vindicated. I don't. I'm sorry, I'm the Google. You know, the news is coming in and this is not a news podcast. So I'm reading as I, I get there. And John was completely right and it's
- [43:35]
B
news from 17 years ago.
- [43:38]
A
Well, whatever. You were right. And the fact that you remember it is pretty impressive because, well, Canadians don't
- [43:43]
B
forget some Canadian things.
- [43:45]
A
All I know is I don't like that chick. Chinese. Chinese thing. I don't like it.
- [44:08]
B
Yeah, I think we should cut the store.
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A
Real random podcast.
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B
Real as they always are, baby.
- [44:20]
A
As they always are. And next week, you'll get your full review of Jennifer Hillier's Little Secrets.
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B
Already.
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A
Do you want to go out on a song?
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B
No, I think we're good on that.
- [44:32]
A
No, do it again.
- [44:33]
B
If I had a million dollars if I had a million dollars I would buy you a green dress but not a real green dress. That's cruel. If I had. We can go ahead now.
- [44:47]
A
And is the green dress actually part of the lyrics?
- [44:51]
B
Yeah.
- [44:52]
A
Okay. I know that's the song they referenced in the book. So if you're curious, if we're at all sticking to anything out of the book, that song is referenced in the book, therefore, we have stuck to the topics off the book. And next week will be your full review of Little Secrets by Jennifer Hillier. May's book is Summer Romance by Abigail Monaghan.
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B
Annabelle.
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A
Annabelle Monaghan, Right. I put a G in her name because it goes in her last name. Annabelle Monaghan. And. And we will announce the Patreon short story soon. It's not until the 15th when that is read. And they're always a story you can read in about an hour, tops. Thank you for supporting us. Rate, review and subscribe. And we will see you next week for the first time. Full review of Little Secrets.
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B
Bye.
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A
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