Does This Wife Make Me Look Better?

Summary

The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna

Episode: Does This Wife Make Me Look Better?
Release Date: June 16, 2025

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Introduction

In this lively episode of The Book Lisp, hosts Jon Ryan, an NFL Super Bowl champion, and Sarah Colonna, a comedian-actress, engage in their trademark blend of humor and insightful conversation. This episode, titled "Does This Wife Make Me Look Better?", delves into their personal lives, upcoming projects, and their latest book discussion, all while maintaining their engaging and candid rapport.

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Personal Anecdotes: Hair and Daily Routines

Sarah kicks off the episode by sharing a relatable anecdote about her curly hair and a longer-than-usual shower routine, which includes shaving her legs.

Sarah Colonna [00:27]: "Some days it was wash day. Today I had to wash it, which means, like, it's going to be a longer shower..."

Jon humorously comments on Sarah's quick shower habits, reflecting their playful dynamic.

Jon Ryan [01:01]: "Yeah, I mean, I like a quick shower too. Yeah, don't dilly dally in there."

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Promoting Patreon and Bonus Content

The duo takes a moment to promote their Patreon, highlighting the exclusive content available to supporters. Sarah enthusiastically describes the additional perks, including short stories and spontaneous recordings.

Sarah Colonna [02:31]: "We have a short story every month and then two other times a month we do just a sort of random John and Sarah hit record."

Jon adds a humorous touch by mentioning their editors, Alex and Olivia, and the benefits of supporting their work.

Jon Ryan [02:30]: "Either way."

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Current Book Discussion: A Beautiful Couple

Moving into their book discussion, Sarah introduces the current book, "A Beautiful Couple" by Wesley Wolf. They tease the plot without giving away spoilers, maintaining intrigue for listeners.

Sarah Colonna [18:34]: "Regardless of how far you are in. This is not a spoiler to me at all..."

Jon and Sarah explore the complexities of the book's characters, particularly focusing on the protagonist's reluctance to divorce for image reasons.

Sarah Colonna [20:04]: "He's married to Amanda. Amanda wants a divorce. He doesn't want to give it to her..."

Jon relates the book's themes to his own experiences, adding depth to their discussion.

Jon Ryan [21:34]: "I think that's a really interesting question because I have dealt with that in my life before meeting you..."

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Light-hearted Segments: Lee Child's Eleven Numbers and Personal Stories

Sarah shares their recent Patreon content featuring Lee Child's short story "Eleven Numbers," incorporating humor about the detailed numerical descriptions in the audiobook version.

Sarah Colonna [05:04]: "...this book, she's got. She's so a celeb in Malibu with his anchor job..."

They also delve into personal stories, such as Jon's experiences with commercials and their shared memories from the NFL days, adding a personal touch to the episode.

John Ryan [09:08]: "We were doing autographs. That. Me, nobody punter."

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Engagement with Audience: Upcoming Shows and Events

Sarah announces upcoming comedy shows and events, encouraging listeners to attend and support them.

Sarah Colonna [15:08]: "We have a couple days ago. Egg. I got added dates in Seattle for this coming weekend..."

Jon supports Sarah's announcements, adding to the promotional segment with enthusiasm.

Jon Ryan [34:21]: "I don't want. I just want all Botox."

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Discussion Topics: Marriage, Image, and Social Expectations

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing societal expectations around marriage and image, inspired by their current book. They critique the pressure to maintain a "nuclear family" image, especially in the corporate world.

Sarah Colonna [24:32]: "It's like, Yeah. A household of. Consisting of two adult parents and their biological children."

Jon relates these themes to his own life, emphasizing the importance of personal choices over societal norms.

John Ryan [25:41]: "But I find it sort of an interesting dynamic in the book that it's her that's like, fuck this. Like, let's just part ways..."

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Responsible Drinking and DUI Prevention

Jon and Sarah discuss the importance of responsible drinking, sharing personal practices to prevent drunk driving. They emphasize the use of services like Uber and the significance of self-regulation.

Sarah Colonna [39:19]: "But how, how I know that the irony of that is part of the book. I know that."

Jon Ryan [42:05]: "Yes, you did, girl."

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Conclusion: Looking Ahead to Next Episode

As the episode wraps up, Jon and Sarah reflect on the extensive conversation they've had and tease the upcoming full book review slated for the next week.

Sarah Colonna [49:15]: "Yeah. Well, we're gonna have a lot to talk about next week because it is the full review."

They reiterate their Patreon invitation and express gratitude to their listeners, closing on a high note.

Sarah Colonna [50:43]: "The book lisp."

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Notable Quotes

• Sarah Colonna [18:34]: "This is who Paul is. I, I would like to say at any charity event that's serving alcohol, it should there, I mean there should be a valet option..."

• Jon Ryan [25:41]: "But I find it sort of an interesting dynamic in the book that it's her that's like, fuck this. Like, let's just part ways..."

• Sarah Colonna [50:37]: "The book list. We love you."

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Final Thoughts

This episode of The Book Lisp offers a delightful mix of humor, personal stories, and thoughtful discussion on societal norms, all centered around their current book, "A Beautiful Couple." Jon and Sarah's chemistry shines through, making it an engaging listen for both regular fans and newcomers alike.

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Stay tuned for next week's full book review episode where Jon and Sarah will delve deeper into "A Beautiful Couple."

Transcript

[Sarah Colonna]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[John Ryan]

And I'm John Ryan.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[John Ryan]

The Book Lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. How you doing, John?

[John Ryan]

Good. Your hair looks good.

[Sarah Colonna]

Does I let it air dry.

[John Ryan]

Big, bold and beautiful.

[Sarah Colonna]

It. You know what? Curly. Curly people, you'll relate to me on this. Some days it was wash day. Today I had to wash it, which means, like, it's going to be a longer shower, so I have to really think about things. And I also had to shave my legs. So I was like, oh, there's shower. Because, you know, I do everything really fast. So when I think I have to. Yeah, it's probably just a very normal time shower for most people when I have to do both those things because I blow through it still. But I think we all know my patience level is low for.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I mean, I like a quick shower too. Yeah, don't dilly dally in there.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I don't need to waste a bunch of water. No Thinking about my feelings.

[John Ryan]

We care about the whales and whatnot.

[Sarah Colonna]

But it was a wash day today and some days that can be the worst day for your hair. But then it was so warm out that we walked and my hair was still wet and I. We walked and got something to eat and then I was like, I'm just gonna let it fly. And this is what it looks like. If you're. If you're on Patreon, you can see it because you can see the videos on Patreon. You can watch them. You can also join Patreon and then still just listen if you are driving or whatnot. When you listen to podcasts a lot, I believe most people join our Patreon. Some like to watch us. And a lot of people really like our bonus content. We do super fun bonus content on Patreon. We have a short story every month and then two other times a month we do just a sort of random John and Sarah hit record. Every once in a while we throw up our feelings about something random. And yeah, we have fun over there. It's only $5 a month way to support us if you can. And you know, it's a it. I mean, listen, our editors are getting paid no matter what. What up, Alex and Olivia? We're obviously going to pay you, but the listeners, if they join Patreon, they can help pay you or we'll just keep paying you.

[John Ryan]

Either way.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, they do great work. We appreciate Alex and Olivia. They're always very timely and make great videos for us and all the other stuff. So what. Why did I start talking randomly about that?

[John Ryan]

I don't know. I don't know where you're going.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, I just want to say that we appreciate them.

[John Ryan]

So there you go with your hair. Yeah, we should, like, talk with them every episode to make sure they're listening. Just throw a little thing in there, like, oh, my God, I'm gonna get Alex a thousand dollars tomorrow. And then be like.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, they're listening. Oh, they listen. They listen. Don't you worry about it. And join our Facebook group, the book listeners. Follow us on Instagram at the book lists if you need a free way or would like a free way to support us. Reviews and ratings are always very helpful. So wherever you listen, I think mostly it's Apple and Spotify for us, our listeners, and also where you can do that. But if you can rate it on a different platform where you're listening, that would be great. And that means give us five stars.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

And maybe write a little quick note about how. Just how just fun we are. We're just fun.

[John Ryan]

We're a fun couple.

[Sarah Colonna]

You're. So this is week three.

[John Ryan]

Just.

[Sarah Colonna]

I just blew right past that. This is week three of the book Lisp. And as you know, or if you're new here, we don't do full book spoilers until week four. We just talk about things. Kind of stuff we pull from the book. But that won't spoil anything for you if you're either behind or not reading. I've learned that some people are like, I'm not reading it. But I just listen to you guys. I'm like, that's fine, too.

[John Ryan]

I like. I like that, too.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's fine, too. You can do whatever you want. It's a free, free podcast. Free country, free, all of the things. Free will to do whatever you want with the book list, except copy it. So it's week three. We're gonna. I. I'm excited to talk week four because as you guys know, John and I do not discuss the book. We discussed one thing today because I said. Because I didn't know how far he was, so I never brought it up before. And then today he told me how far he was. So I said, were you a little surprised by this other thing that happened? But I'm not giving away what that is, because what if you guys haven't gotten there yet?

[John Ryan]

So we're gonna have a lot to talk about on this book too. There's a lot.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know I do kind of feel it goes down. Yeah. I feel like next Monday's episode might be a little bit longer than usual. We just talked about.

[John Ryan]

Buckle up.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. For Patreon yesterday. We just talked about. Because it's on the 15th is when we do the short stories of every month. We talked about this book that we read called Eleven Numbers by Lee Childs. This 50 pages short story. And it kind of broke out of our. Both of our genres. We felt to read something by him and, and he's a fantastic writer, truly. But we were, we were laughing about one moment where I was like at the beginning of the book when it was like too. A little too detailed, I was like, oh, this is. This is why audio? Even though I usually I say I read instead of audio because I'm afraid I'll tune out during audio. But I for sure would have tuned.

[John Ryan]

Out reading when they're like 1,997,654.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

The next number was 8,000,009. It must have been a whole page of his numbers at one point.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it was a whole. It was a great plot. I really liked his storytelling and it actually made me want to read more. Lee Child. I don't know that it's ever going to be right for this podcast, but we'll see. But it. My stepdad we were talking about. My stepdad really loves Lee Child. So. But there was this. Yeah, this part at the beginning where there some details I felt weren't for me as a reader. I was like I need to be. So if I was reading it instead of with the audible was like $0.89 or something because it is 50 pages, I guess that short stories. So we had a little fun talking about that. So patrons, if you haven't listened to it yet, listen to yesterday's.

[John Ryan]

Lee child is 70 years old and he's written a ton of books. Oh and he has a couple. Like a lot of them like turn into movies. Like all the Jack Reacher stuff. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Guess what.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

He got Jack Reacher money.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah. Guess what net worth is.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. How many books is he. Well, I can't.

[John Ryan]

Oh my God. I'm looking through. I'm. I'm keep on scrolling. It keeps on going. Well, three, six, I don't know, 1821.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's hard to know how much he gets paid for the books when they turn into movies. Like I know what. I got paid to write a pilot based on my book. I know what it Caught when they optioned my book. I know, but I don't really know when. It's like a Lee Child. It's a different number. So I'm gonna say 200 million.

[John Ryan]

70 million, it says on here.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh.

[John Ryan]

I always wonder, like, how they come up with these numbers, though, because my. My net worth is up there on the. On a website, but it's not. Right. I'm actually worth more.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, well, good to know.

[John Ryan]

No, no, don't look now.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm gonna Google it later, and then. Yeah, yeah, girl, I don't need.

[John Ryan]

I don't have a prenup. We want prenup.

[Sarah Colonna]

I would have expected more just because he's written so many books, but what do I know? And like you said, what do they know? It's probably off, because how do they know how much he gets paid per.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Movie script.

[John Ryan]

They have, like, an estimate. Like. Like, they have. Some ways. They have actuaries that work for these websites. Not really. I don't know.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. Who knows? I know Howard Stern talks about that a lot. He's like, it's so off for the people that.

[John Ryan]

I do the same thing. Every single person that comes up, I look up what their net worth is. I'm obsessed with it. I don't know why. Because sometimes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because you know that it's probably not right.

[John Ryan]

Right. But sometimes you look at someone and you look at, like, oh, like, they've done a lot. What's their net worth? Like, 2 million bucks. Which. Nothing to cough at, but you think that they're worth, like, a hundred million or twenty million or whatever.

[Sarah Colonna]

But I just looked at the child. I gave them 130.

[John Ryan]

You look at other people, you're like, oh, they've done a couple things here.

[Sarah Colonna]

Or.

[John Ryan]

But you really learn the people behind the scenes, the ones really making the money.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Or there's like. I mean, with. With celebrities and stuff. It's like endorsements and their own. Just these things you don't even think of. I mean, I fucking. Courtney Cox and Lisa Kudrow are doing, like, a gaming app commercial now.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Chris Pratt was on there, too, I think.

[Sarah Colonna]

Also, we don't realize that money, you don't need it.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, but. But if someone comes and goes this afternoon, work, I'm gonna give you a. Give you a million dollars.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. You take it.

[John Ryan]

I understand. Listen, I did a roofing commercial in Seattle.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Does John Ryan need a money for a roofing commercial? I go. They're like, here's 10 grand. It'll take you an hour. Sign Me up. I'll do 12 of them if you want.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. What was it? Trust tech line.

[John Ryan]

That's T K L-I-N-E.com and Trust Techline. That was the biggest. That was the TK L I n-e.com and trust Techline.

[Sarah Colonna]

Really?

[John Ryan]

I'm getting free. Yeah, it was. It was on, like, when I signed up for it. They're like, okay, it's a contract. Do it for like eight months or whatever. I mean, I worked for an hour, and then it came on, like, a lot I was comfortable with.

[Sarah Colonna]

We would. We would be watching TV in Seattle. Was local, obviously, because it was a local Seattle. We'd be watching TV at home in Seattle, and then all on would come John telling us to Trust Tech line. And you know what? We trust them.

[John Ryan]

But that was the glory days of Seattle football, when all of us were doing commercials. We were doing. We used to do autographs. That. Me, nobody punter.

[Sarah Colonna]

I would do nobody punter. You just got vote. You just got.

[John Ryan]

I know.

[Sarah Colonna]

Nominated or just got voted in to be one of the 50 greatest Seahawks of all time.

[John Ryan]

Not nominated. I was named.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's what I said at first. I said nominated, and then I said voted in because you were originally nominated. And then you.

[John Ryan]

I used to go to autograph sessions. Two hours of autographs. I got six grand in cash.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I mean, where are those days now?

[Sarah Colonna]

Take me back to a book podcast for free.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. God, take me back to 2013.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, no, no, can't do that.

[John Ryan]

That's when I met you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, okay. Oh, you're saying you'd rather go back to when you met me instead of with being with me now?

[John Ryan]

This is like some really twisted shit. I don't quite know how to answer.

[Sarah Colonna]

All right, let's talk topics off of this month's book. A beautiful Couple. As you know, like I said earlier, we just pull some things, have some random conversations so that we don't spoil the book until week four, when you have all hopefully read it by then. And if not, well, then you. The good thing about podcasts, you can listen them to whenever you want. Now just reannounce your July book for everybody. So that meet was it. Meet Me at the Lake.

[John Ryan]

Meet Me at the Lake by Carly Fortune.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't do lakes, but I do do beaches.

[John Ryan]

Meet Me at the Lake. Carley Fortune.

[Sarah Colonna]

Meet Me at the Lake by Carly Fortune.

[John Ryan]

It's a very, very summer book.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm excited. I'm excited to read that because I feel like I have you've been.

[John Ryan]

We've been killing a lot of people in your book. I've been telling a. Lighten up a little bit.

[Sarah Colonna]

I've been. I need to lighten it up. I. So I finished A Beautiful Couple. We'll just do a little. What. What are we reading outside of the book list right now? So I finished A Beautiful Couple. I blew through it in May. Okay. And so then I thought, well, now I can. I'll just read For Pleasure, which I'm doing for this podcast too, obviously. But so I. Everyone talks about A Perfect Marriage. I've told you guys, I read that and then. And I know a lot of listeners have read it. I don't think I'm gonna use it as a book list anytime soon.

[John Ryan]

I read it a long time ago.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, you did? No. Wait, what did I. Just A Perfect Marriage. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

The Perfect Marriage by.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Geneva Rose. Oh, you have read it.

[John Ryan]

And what's the follow up? A Perfect Divorce.

[Sarah Colonna]

A Perfect Divorce, which I am now about 70 through.

[John Ryan]

I. I wonder why I didn't read the follow up.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, it's. It's new. It's pretty new.

[John Ryan]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I think it just came out. Whatever. We can all look it up. But I think it just came out, like, this year.

[John Ryan]

Okay. Okay. I have not read that.

[Sarah Colonna]

So A Perfect. The Perfect Marriage, I thought was really good.

[John Ryan]

April. April 15, 2025.

[Sarah Colonna]

So I thought it was really good. I enjoyed it. The reason I don't think it'll be a book list anytime soon is because I know a lot of people have already read it. Plus, because of her, the Perfect Divorce, I feel like it's going to be harder for people to get the first one from the library, too, for a lot. I just. And I just. And I'm. And also I blew through it. I was just reading it for pleasure, so I didn't take my notes and all that stuff. So then. But now, obviously I liked it because I. I picked up the Perfect Divorce, and Now I'm about 70% through that. And I. It's like, I feel like I should know what's coming, but I don't know what's coming. And I'm hoping it's not obvious because I think we all. If you're reading the Perfect Divorce and you're not through with it yet, then you probably think the villain is the same person from the Perfect Marriage. That's me not giving anything away. Okay. But now I'm like, is it. Or is that a misdirect in there? So I don't know I'm interested to see how it ends, but I am. I'm really reading a lot and it's. And it's enjoyable. It doesn't feel like it's making me any smarter.

[John Ryan]

I know you know, there are some like well read people. What does that mean? Well. Ready?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I'm very well read, but I.

[John Ryan]

Ain'T right reading the encyclopedia. This beach vibe smut.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, maybe after I read Meet me at the lake which I'll never meet you at the lake because the last time I went to an into a lake as John knows, a piece of human doo doo what Flew by my.

[John Ryan]

Well no, that was the last time you went to lake last I take to like the Ute in Canada and oh, I did. Dead fish floated up beside you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. Okay, you're right. I did get. I gave back in. So when I was a kid, I think some people have probably heard the story if you listen to Are you my podcast. But are you My podcast is my very funny podcast with my friend Mary Rodzinski, fellow comedian. We just talk nonsense and then we do married at first sight when that's in season. Otherwise we talk nonsense or like trending Netflix shows. It's super fun. But I told the story. I know on there. But yes. When I. Long story short, when I was young, I went Weddington Lake in Arkansas. I went underwater. I came up and a large piece doo doo floated right by my face and I was like, yeah, I did not. I. I know that that belonged to a human. So I don't know how you just squeeze one out in the lake, by the way. But I don't want to think about it anymore because I'm grossed out. But. And then so I. That lakes lost my trust.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Since. Since I was probably in junior high. And then I gave it back to John and I went with him in a lake in Regina, Saskatchewan.

[John Ryan]

And one day it was outside, there was dead fish floating up into the freaking. It was a very. I think it was a very shallow lake and warm.

[Sarah Colonna]

But there were a few dead fish.

[John Ryan]

There was a few.

[Sarah Colonna]

I was like, we're obviously in some kind of chemicals or something is happening. I mean that didn't seem fair.

[John Ryan]

My niece got very sick. She had a bad infection in her Yoo hoo. And my mom blamed it on that lake.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Listen, stay out of the lakes in Saskatchewan. Hopefully we don't work for Saskatchewan tourism, obviously, but just go. It's a beautiful place. But maybe stay out of the lakes. We're not sure what's going on there and ooh, just real quick for Seattle book listeners. Oh, just we have a few a couple days ago. Egg. I got added dates in Seattle for this coming weekend, June 20th and 21st at Emerald City Comedy Club. So proper Seattle. So a lot of you yell at me, why are you're gonna be in Tacoma? Why aren't you? You're in Spokane. Why not in Seattle? I go, they don't have a comedy club now they do. And it's co owned by the guy that owns the Tacoma and Spokane so that it's top notch. He has the best clubs in the country in my opinion and many other comedians opinions. And so we will be at. I will be at Emerald city comedy club June 20, Friday for one show at 7 and then on Saturday at 7 and 9:30. I'm really excited. And why don't you guys pack it since it just got announced and then you can see me July 19th or 18th in Salem, Oregon at the grand, which I'm very excited about. I know that's selling well already. So please get your tickets before they're gone. John will be with me for that. And then San Antonio at the Stable hall in August, followed by Brad Garrett's comedy club where I do a week there. It sounds like a long time and it is, but it's super fun. It's a wonderful club. They treat you right. They put you up in a wonderful condo. You just have an entire week of fun there. One show a night. I love it. And then more will come after that. John, what do you want to talk about? Off of a Beautiful Couple by our friend Wesley Wolf. She's not a friend, but I want her to be.

[John Ryan]

We can talk whatever you want. I was just looking up and there's two Mexican places right by Emerald City Comedy Club. One's right across the street. Nacho Baron Cho. Oh, I'm obviously saying that correct.

[Sarah Colonna]

He knows what I'm looking for when I. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

And there's one called Taco Chicas.

[Sarah Colonna]

I like your little accent too.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, right. Pretty good.

[Sarah Colonna]

So. Well, one thing I was thinking of is in this book, regardless of how far you are in. This is not a spoiler to me at all. But our couple is together for. He doesn't want a divorce because he thinks it looks better for his image. Yeah, right. Because he's a popular anchorman.

[John Ryan]

Sure. I hate him so much.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I know. He said we talked about this last week. He's such a douchebag. It's just one of those people you go, I, I just. And John went on this whole feed. Haven't listened to last week. You have to. John went on a whole rant about how guys like that think they're so cool, and they're like, this is how. This is how bros talk. And it's like, no, it's not. I mean, it is how bros, I guess, talk, but not how real bros talk, so.

[John Ryan]

Right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because real bros don't call themselves bros. That's right. So he is horrified.

[John Ryan]

We call each other Bra. Bra. Hey, Bra. Bra.

[Sarah Colonna]

He is horrifying. He is someone you would not want to be friends with. He is someone that, no matter what, you're sitting next to him at a. A nice event, he's staring at your tits or thinking about your tits, talking about your tits or thinking your tits aren't big enough or thinking they're too big. He wants to motorboat tits at all times. He's a monster. He is married to Amanda. Amanda wants a divorce. He doesn't want to give it to her. And the raise, the way he keeps her in is saying, I'll get custody, blah, blah, blah, of their child.

[John Ryan]

Right?

[Sarah Colonna]

So I find it interesting that the woman is in this story is she's got. She's like, no, we talked about this already. We're not staying together for the kids. I want out of this marriage. But she's threatened by him. She thinks that because he's this celebrity in Malibu with his anchor job, is that. That he can somehow give her a hard time about custody and whatnot, so. But he feels like it's best to be married. He thinks that sells him better. And I just want to talk about that because I find it so interesting. Why? I mean, he's not wrong because in the book, his boss is saying, oh, is Amanda coming to this meeting? Is. And it's because she's this. She's an ER nurse. Right.

[John Ryan]

I think that's really interesting question because I have dealt with that in my life before meeting you where other wives on the football team kind of like, oh, like, don't hang out with him. He's not married. Like, as if we're like lepers or something. Like, we're going to. We're going to grab your husband and, you know, grab him by the ding dong and put it in something like. I don't know what. It happens to me all the time. It's like, oh, like, be careful around John. He's not married. Like, I don't know what that means. I knew what they thought it meant, but it was always weird to me.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's a good question.

[John Ryan]

Because do you know that I've told you about this story before, before you and I met and you were like, oh, he's 30, whatever, 32 and single, playing football, like, stay away.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. And the funniest part was you're, you're not the person that anyone needs to stay away from. Like, you're the, you're the opposite. It's like, yeah, he's the single guy who likes to have fun by going home at 9 o' clock and, you know, going to a dive bar during the day for a little bit. But it just, it, it's funny because she's, she, she's ready to be independent on her own. She doesn't give a shit. And she's an ER nurse. She obviously is held in a high regard in her, in her community. And so together they have this amazing image. But the fact that again, like I said, he's not wrong because his station ends up saying, well, if we're going to do this and if you're going to get this promotion, if we're going to go to, we're taking over this and that Amanda needs to be at the meeting. She's going to be there. Right. Because it just sells better as you're a family man and it's this. And I guess I get that still happens. I understand it. I'm not in the corporate world and that is the corporate world and on the behind the scenes end of it. But if you think about people you watch on tv, I mean, I don't ever think about who I'm watching on TV based on their marital status or their right.

[John Ryan]

No, I don't care.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, no, who cares? And I don't even think, I think a lot of people think even in government or presidents it should be.

[John Ryan]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's like, who cares? Why do we let a single guy get in there, a single woman get in there and live it up? Who gives a. Maybe. I mean, what matters? Why do we matter? Why are we forcing sort of. It has to be this. Is it nuclear family? Is that what people say?

[John Ryan]

Family blows up?

[Sarah Colonna]

No. Nuclear what? A family? No, I think nuclear family is a traditional family. A couple in their dependent children.

[John Ryan]

Really?

[Sarah Colonna]

I thought that regarded as a basic social unit. Yes.

[John Ryan]

A nuclear family.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's like, Yeah. A household of. Consisting of two adult parents and their biological children. So they're. Yeah, it's very specific. It's, it's not. It's probably also saying man and woman. It's probably like being very much traditional, quote unquote. For what? You know what I mean. And, and like it said, biological. So I mean, anyway, it's a dumb term is my point.

[John Ryan]

I never heard it before.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I have. But this seems to be in this book, what they're pushing as. This is. This is what works. This is your image. And if I find it funny that he agrees with it, knowing that he's a dirt bag, knowing that he's cheated on her, knowing that it's. Isn't it better to just go out there and swing your dick around single than ever have the. Cuz you have the risk. He's a public figure. He has the risk of being caught. He has the risk of blowing that whole thing up. And that makes you look way worse than if you just get a divorce.

[John Ryan]

And that's a good point because if he is a guy that wants to swing his dick around, it looks way worse if people see you out there swinging your dick around when you're married, as opposed to just being single. If you're single, you're the freaking whatever local celebrity. Like, oh, he's just being him.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

But you know what? I mean, I think he would just. He should think the opposite. But he's so obsessed with this image of what he looks like on the air to people because they want his boss. He was like, we want to like portray a family man.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. And it's. And, and, and he's such an idiot because he goes and messes around with everybody. Yeah. And, and so it could easily be blown up and you look way worse. But I find it sort of an interesting dynamic in the book that it's her that's like, fuck this. Like, let's just part ways. We're good. We don't have to stay together. Let's just. And he's so stuck on making sure. Because he. And I'm sure it's also because of her profession. Right. It makes him look better that she heals people.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. But I think taking it one step further, which has. This has absolutely nothing to do with the book whatsoever. Just things that we have dealt with before and is when there is two people that are together and they're not having kids, you get a lot of judgments as well, Maybe not as much in California, like Southern California, it's very normal thing in la, but not so much as where either of us are from in Arkansas and Saskatchewan. My mom says there's still people that come to like, oh, is John and Sarah have any kids? And they're like. She's like, no. And they're like, oh, well, that's sad. Or, oh, maybe someday. It's like, no, maybe. No day. No day.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, some days passing pretty quick over here. But.

[John Ryan]

One of my favorite jokes is Mary Radzinski, our good friend, she used to have a joke that said when people used to say to her when she was younger, they'd be like, kids. And she's like, not yet. And now when people say kids, she goes, not anymore.

[Sarah Colonna]

Then she goes, I don't like small talk. That'll shut them down. Or that'll shut them down real fast.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, but I don't. I'll never understand that. I honestly think some people aren't meant to have kids. Some people don't want to have kids. It's none of your fucking business whether or not I have kids. But still, I got even more so as like, maybe because a football player, you know, they just want to spread their seed all over or whatever that.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, I. In some ways, I get it if I'm a. I mean, you look at. You look at some of these players that are so successful, and there's more than one at Kelsey Brothers, for instance. Oh, yeah, you go, you go. Instance, you go, we both made the NFL, which is almost impossible for one person to make. So then you both made it. And then you go, we gotta. We get. We maybe we gotta procreate because, yeah, we gotta get a kid that's going to be able to go ahead and continue this on and make a. I had money.

[John Ryan]

I had a teammate once, and he found out that he had a half brother. His dad had had relations with another woman, and he found out he had a half brother. You know how he found him? He was also in the NFL.

[Sarah Colonna]

What?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, that. Isn't that crazy? Like, I mean, the chance to make the NFL are so small. And that was definitely a nurture versus nature thing where it's two guys raised by two different women, but both with the same father. Both made the NFL is absolutely insane.

[Sarah Colonna]

So how did they find out?

[John Ryan]

I don't remember the particulars with it. This was, you know, 15 years ago. But he found out that he had a half brother, and he found out that he was also playing in the NFL, which is like, insane.

[Sarah Colonna]

So maybe it was an ancestry.com or one of those 23andMe and then he looked it up and then he's like, what does this guy do? And he's like, oh, I play against him every Sunday.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Isn't that wild?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[John Ryan]

But I don't.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I don't understand what people's obsession is with whether or not I have a kid or you have a kid or anyone doesn't have kids. What doesn't. Why do they don't want kids?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's getting. It's getting better. It's been better, I think, but I'm 50, so I don't think people are still trying to ask me. And. And it's. And again, it's. I, by the way, I still could, unfortunately. I'd really love to lock it up to where I couldn't anymore. And I. I shouldn't make that joke because I understand that it's yes. For people that have infertility issues and all those things. Like, I'm not trying to make light, but I have never. I just never wanted them ever, ever, ever. John Never wanted them ever, ever, ever. There has. It was an immediate discussion. We got that out of the way real quick because we were both making sure the other person fairly understood that we would never want that. Luckily, we were on the same page. And it is getting more normal. But it's like there's especially growing up in a small town and. And, you know, just. And I don't know why that is. I guess it's just because more people are sort of in your business or. Or it's a more quote unquote traditional way of life in. In those areas where they're like, you get married, you have kids, you. Right. So. Yeah, I don't understand either.

[John Ryan]

You know what? I used to get a lot when. When you and I were engaged, we got engaged pretty quickly. Within, what, eight months we started dating. And people would say, are you guys having kids? Like, no, we're not. We're not doing that. And every. Everyone, you know, everyone. Oh, she'll change her mind. Like, no, she won't. We're not. We. We've like. And I don't know if they said it to make themselves feel better or. So I don't know what it is.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's a very common.

[John Ryan]

And then every once in a while I'd get some guy. I can't say his name. The guy that I thought right away, and I was being like, no, we're not having kids. And he goes, oh, you guys are gonna have the best life. It's a guy I played football with that we both know very well. And he goes, oh, you guys are gonna have the best life. Okay. Yes, we are.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I think it is weird because there's not. It's. There's not something broken with people who just don't want that. We both love children. We have tons of nieces and nephews. I. I adore them. I adore my friends.

[John Ryan]

We have 14 of the.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, yeah, we got a lot of nieces back here.

[John Ryan]

They're everywhere.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And we're able to spoil them because we don't have our own kids and.

[John Ryan]

Then send them home.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And. But it's. It's. It's. I don't know how many other women or men have. Have felt this way, but I knew in my 20s, I mean, there. There was. I can say that there was points in my life that I fantasized about being married. And then when I got into my mid-30s, I sort of felt like, if it happens, it happens. I'll be fine either way. If you read my book, has anyone seen my pants? You'll. You'll learn more about that. And then I met John, and I go, oh, I do want to get married. That's because I met the person I would like to marry. And this. This would be a nice life. This is. This is someone I can. I can do a fucking book podcast with and. And enjoy my life with. But I. There was. I never. I just never had a fantasy. I never had a thought. I never had an urge. Maybe you guys are just going to think it means I'm dead inside. Good on you. Whatever you think. I never. There was never a moment of like, I want to be a mother one day now. Not once. So that's how I knew.

[John Ryan]

I think there was, like, a long period of my life where I just thought I had to. Like, I'm talking when I was younger, like, I think in high school years, like, oh, like, if someday I'm going to have kids. And then I was always like, I don't really want to. But, you know, that is kind of the natural progression of life. I go to college, I get a job, and then I have meet someone and I have a kid or whatever order that goes in. I thought that was the way it went.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, I'm sure there's a few bitches that were hoping to lock you in with a kid back when you were playing in the NFL. I'm not one of them. I was hoping to lock you in with no children. And I did.

[John Ryan]

Yes, you did, girl.

[Sarah Colonna]

So sometimes you just have to speak their language. I'm sure there was plenty of girls lining up for a condom free night, hoping to Hoping to rope. Rope in the punter, one of the 50 greatest Seahawks of all time. They were trying. They were trying.

[John Ryan]

See, when it goes like this, when I held my forehead like this, it looks like I don't need Botox. But when I hold like this, it looks I need Botox. What do you think?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, so I think if you're watching on Patreon, John's fooling around with his forehead right now. Well, when it. Look at me, when I raise my eyebrows, then you can see the lines in my forehead too. That's what they're.

[John Ryan]

I don't want. I just want all Botox.

[Sarah Colonna]

I think, well, you can get it if you want. I can't do it in my forehead. This discussion has been had a lot lately, but I know I can.

[John Ryan]

Too much.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I can do it in my forehead if I wanted to. I've been accused of having Botox.

[John Ryan]

You get accused all the time of having Botox in your forehead.

[Sarah Colonna]

In my forehead, really.

[John Ryan]

Also, by the way, I want to talk about this real quick. Maybe it's not my place, but when I hear about this, like, women supporting women, all the people that talk shit about your forehead are all women.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know.

[John Ryan]

Oh, girl, you take use too much Botox, girl. You might want to get a new doctor, girl. I'm like, she has no Botox in her forehead.

[Sarah Colonna]

I have no Botox in my forehead. Now listen, I can I get it on my crow's feet. I mean, I got no problem. If I got it, I got it. I tell you the reason I get accused of it a apparently is two things. The way my arch is, which I think I have terrible eyebrows, but I get them dyed. You can. As you can see, this is a random conversation. I get them tinted and done. So it gets it. She does a good job. And I have a pretty decent arch. But, you know, I plucked them real young. We know what we all did in the 90s, into the McDonald's arches. We plucked our eyebrows like Pam Anderson. And she's beautiful, but she's. She fucked us all over. But when we fucked her eyebrows like her is. Not everyone looks like her with those eyebrows. And. But I get accused of it. I finally found out because I had a few people say it to me. They were like, your, your forehead is so shiny. It's fats from Botox. And I'm like, oh, no, honey, I've had oily skin my entire life. I got it from my mom. And I'm honestly very thankful for it because as you get older, oily Skin is good. Is helpful in, in. In not having like dry. Doesn't matter. My mom. Thank you. My mom gave me her oily skin and all she uses is fudgeing oil of Olay. And she's in her 70s. Yeah. She swears by that shit. And I'm not. And she's not wrong. I've used it before and I'm like, this stuff's pretty good.

[John Ryan]

Well, when I see that you get a big fucking tub of it for 599 and then we spend hundreds of dollars. I have all the whole. I put 20 skin every day.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know.

[John Ryan]

I see her just putting a 599 on a bucket of crap that lasts two months probably. It's like, well, what's all her money on?

[Sarah Colonna]

She's 75, right? Yeah, she's born in 50. Then this. Yeah, she's 75. And I would. I definitely say she could pass. Is in her 60s for sure. Anyway, I don't do Botox to my forehead. I would like to, but I have hooded eyelids. Again, this has been discussed a lot recently and when I put it in there, no matter where he puts it, I have a very good guy. I did it twice and it made me feel like more weighed down and I didn't like it. Like I couldn't express myself to feel like my eyes were more open. This is not out of the book. We have really gone off the rails. Let's get back to other topics that have to do with the book.

[John Ryan]

Like what? Oh sure, they all have Botox.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, they definitely did.

[John Ryan]

They live in Malibu.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, one thing I wanted to talk about in the book that was so. It's so funny. We none of the. No matter how far you are in. I'm sure you're at least to the point where you know that he was at a charity for anti. Anti drunk driving and, and he had a few cocktails and he drove. And I'll just leave it at that. But how, how I know that the irony of that is part of the book. I know that.

[John Ryan]

Sure.

[Sarah Colonna]

That is the story. And that even. And his wife, who Amanda says let me drive. All I had tonight was water. And he, he's like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm tough guy. I gotta drive. Cause that's who Paul is.

[John Ryan]

That's who Paul is.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's who Paul is. I, I would like to say at any charity event that's serving alcohol, it should there, I mean there should be a valet option because of course some people are sober, they just don't drink period. I mean, but it, there should be a. I don't know. It's so in, in the real world. So that's because we pull topics from it and then we talk real world. In the real world, if I go to an event that is celebrating money raised to combat drunk drivers on the road or a MAD event or whatever, you know, all the different organizations for that and I see some who's part.

[John Ryan]

Of the board, who's the host of the event.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Gave a speech and I see him knock back four drinks and then go to the valet with his keys. I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? Give me my money back.

[John Ryan]

Yes. It's a yes. I mean all these definitely. If you're doing a drinking and driving event, you should definitely make sure everyone has some kind of code. Or it'd be like no one drive. Even when people come to our house, we always say if you're going to come to our house for the evening or for a party, you're probably going to get. Have a. I don't want to say drunk. You're probably going to have more than a few drinks. Please don't drive. We tell everyone our Christmas party. We go, do not drive to our Christmas party. We'll have 150 people here. There'll be no cars out front. You have a driver or have an Uber. But do not drive to our party because even if you don't think you're going to drink, you're going to get in here, you're going to have five drinks and something terrible can happen. Please don't drive.

[Sarah Colonna]

Period. We say don't do it. We honestly just say we don't have parking and we don't.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, we do.

[Sarah Colonna]

We do have some passes if we want it, but we don't. If again, if you've got a DD or if you've got someone who doesn't drink at all, someone who's just not going to drink that night, no problem. But there should be some sort of disclaimer there. Honestly, if I'm running a, a drinking and driving, you know, anti drinking and driving fundraiser, nobody's obviously running a pro drinking and driving fundraiser, but I just want to throw an in there girl.

[John Ryan]

You don't know where I'm from.

[Sarah Colonna]

But if I am running that I am, I'm going to, I'm going to have, I'm going to have little. This little John has a breathalyzer. We have. Not in his car. Don't worry. Not because of that mandated. Yeah. Yes he has a Breathalyzer, basically for fun. When we.

[John Ryan]

When I. When I played in the NFL, I put a Breathalyzer in my cars. And so I was always like, if I do go out for dinner and I have two drinks, I want to make sure before I get in that car and get behind the wheel, I'm good. But if I know I'm going to go to a bar or go to out for dinner and have a bottle of wine or throw, then I just. I would Uber.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right?

[John Ryan]

I was like, you know, if I limited myself to 2, I still want to make sure 100 sure that when I get behind the wheel of the car, I am 100 fine.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. And that was obsessed over. Over a period of time, too.

[John Ryan]

My whole thing when I was in the NFL is I worked so freaking hard to get the NFL. I worked so hard for. To play 19 years of pro football. I was like, I'm not gonna f. On some night where I have three glasses of wine by accident. I'm not. I'm going to take all. Every single thing. I'm going to make sure I don't take any supplements. I could, you know, get tipped off on a piss test or anything. I'm going to make sure I'm totally good with everything I do. And I don't know why more guys don't do that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, we see it all the time out here. That's what was kind of entertaining about it. Being set in Malibu and seeing. I know that there's no lack of Ubers in Malibu and anywhere in California and. And for sure they're more limited in. In. In smaller areas. And I. I get that John and I talk about all the time when I go home to Arkansas, I go, I. We got to stay at a hotel because there's never. I'm never gonna be able to Uber from the bar back to my mom's house. It's.

[John Ryan]

But then we stay at a hotel. We make sure, like, I think we have to ever. Most everyone has too much to lose.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. You know, I'm even surprised you would. For you. I've never even seen you. You go, if. Even if we're having two at this point, we don't. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth the risk.

[John Ryan]

I think this is like when I first got into see in the NFL, it was like pre Uber days.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I was like, you have to call a cab to take in Seattle. It take an hour and a half to get to your house. It was a whole thing. So I Was like, okay, I'm gonna, like, go out, have dinner. I'm gonna have two glasses of wine, whatever it was. But then I'm gonna make damn sure that before I drive home, I'm fine.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

And I was like, reassurance. Like, I wasn't, like, trusting, like, oh, I feel fine. Like, I don't trust that.

[Sarah Colonna]

I agree. And I think. And that's why we always, like, it's not worth the risk because then. And then it's harder to leave your car. It's usually more expensive to leave your car and then go back and get it.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Just so anyway, you know, you guys know how we feel. We're very responsible about it.

[John Ryan]

2014, when we had the super bowl ring party, we had a downtown Seattle, this massive, massive party.

[Sarah Colonna]

I remember because I couldn't go.

[John Ryan]

But you were in Tacoma at the time.

[Sarah Colonna]

I was in Tacoma. It was a very weird time.

[John Ryan]

I was staying with you in Tacoma. It was like the end of June, and so we were gonna get our rings presented to us in this huge gala type thing. We had a surprise performer. Usher came out. It was just whatever. Multi million dollar party. It was insane. But Paul Allen's so smart. He's like, nobody's driving to this party. No. He was the owner of the team at the time. He's passed away. His sister now owns the team. Great man. Rest in peace. But he was so. He's like, no one. There's not a parking lot. Nobody is driving to this party. Here's a code. Everyone has free access to Uber for 24 hours. So everyone's like, uber, black car. Everyone's there. So I talked to Stephen Hauska, who's still a good friend of mine, we saw a couple weeks ago. He just took this as like. He took an Uber to practice that day. He went grocery shopping in a black Uber. He went home. He was. He ran. He ran errands all day in an Uber black car. For me, it was, like, so hilarious because I go. I go to him. I'm like, I'm, like, staying with Sarah in Tacoma. She's performing, and it's like 45 miles. Like, I kind of feel bad. It's probably gonna be like, 150 uber. Like, do you think I should do it? He's like, I've had eight Ubers today. Like, so classic here. Just, like, running errands in a black Uber for no reason other than it's free. It was making guy that was making $3 million a year. But, yeah, but that's so you and so amazing.

[Sarah Colonna]

But honestly, Paul Allen was making a lot more than all of you guys. And that's why he gave you free access for 24 hours and didn't just keep it for like five or something.

[John Ryan]

That party probably cost $5 million that night. And he probably made more in interest off his account in those two hours than it cost for that whole party. That guy, I mean, he was, he was very generous with his money for us. He was very great. Yeah, but he was rich and you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Guys were also his super bowl team, so. Yeah, a lot of money off of you guys. So.

[John Ryan]

A lot of money off us.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, see, and, and so that actually is the perfect solution. So if I'm having a charity event of any kind of. And, but especially one that has anything to do drinking and driving and raising money to raise awareness, all the. Do that. Go. Here's. I mean, again, obviously people can afford different things, but you go, listen, if we. I think I would, I think I would say if I. If, if you were spotted having alcohol, one, and then you try to go to the valet, we're going to keep your car for the night. I just, I wouldn't want to risk it because if you had one, maybe you had one before you got there. I don't know. And then that's two. And then it would. Depending on your weight and height, you're over the. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I don't trust any of that. But also, it's like, I've been in this situation before and I've done it. But taking car keys away from a grown adult is. It's a tough thing to do. I've done it before and I'll do it again. Me and my buddy Dave wrote one night and he was drinking and he had a few more than he thought he had. And all of a sudden we look up and at the time his wife is tapping him on the shoulder. He's like, why the hell are you here? She's like, John called me 30 minutes ago. I called his wife to come pick us up. This is a 60 year old man. But he took it well.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, well, sometimes you have to step in when people. Because. And I think that's the problem. Or I know that's the problem. I don't think anyone's. Especially now with all the options. I don't think anyone's setting out to drink and drive or drive over the limit or be an idiot. But when you have. I remember I had a friend in college, he was arrested multiple Times for that. And that was. And it spans over, like, a good 20 years that he kept getting arrested for it. And it was like, what are you doing? And if you. If you know that you might even have a couple too many. Whatever. But the problem is when people go and then they get a little tipsy, then they think. Exactly right. You get people that.

[John Ryan]

It's right around drink four or five, where it's like, no, I'm fine.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I feel good.

[John Ryan]

I'm good.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm invincible. I don't.

[John Ryan]

I'm probably better driver right now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. So your brain isn't. Isn't there. You're not.

[John Ryan]

That's why I have to prepare like you and I do. If we're going up, we're like. It's also why I.

[Sarah Colonna]

We honestly go to. We. We go to dinners and we'll have bleach, have one glass of wine, and we'll have Uber to. Been like, oh, God, we were there for two hours. I guess we could have just driven home. But it just. I'd rather be safe than any kind of sorry.

[John Ryan]

It's also why I had. I filled up three times my car last year. Three tanks of gas in one year. Once every four months, I fill up.

[Sarah Colonna]

He also just hates a lot of Ubers.

[John Ryan]

And I hate driving, especially in LA.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, you hate driving in LA. You like driving long distances.

[John Ryan]

99 of my world is right here in these, like, four blocks. Yeah, I. I don't want to leave these four blocks. Come see me if you want to see me. I'll go to Seattle, go to Portland. Nope, after that. That's it.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's it.

[John Ryan]

Come see me.

[Sarah Colonna]

We went on some random tangents that already took up our entire podcast.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Oh, my God. It's 50 minutes. We're already done.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Well, we're gonna have a lot to talk about next week because it is the full review. And I mean, we had a lot to talk about tonight, but. So next week is your full review.

[John Ryan]

We literally talked about nothing tonight.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know, but that's my favorite. Yeah, it's fun. We talked about a lot of things. July is Meet Me at the Lake, but Don't Shit in it by Carly Fortune. Okay. That's not the whole name. Okay. And we again, join us on patreon. It's only $5 a month right now. You get three episodes a month along with the short story is one of them. But we might add more content at Patreon if we see more joiners and whatnot and just do some, like, personal stuff and have some fun. I know that we can't assign you guys too much more reading because we're all in this to read and we don't want to overwhelm. But the short stories are always very short. 50 to 90 pages. Something you can. Yeah. And we announce it in enough time for you to have plenty of time to read it before we get to it. So thank you for joining us on the book list. We love you. And if we don't see you, well, I guess we'll just see you next Monday. Full review time coming.

[John Ryan]

Yep.

[Sarah Colonna]

Bye. The book list.

[John Ryan]

The book lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

The book list.

[John Ryan]

The book lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

The book lisp.