Flag on the Date

Summary

The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna Episode: Flag on the Date
Release Date: April 14, 2025

In this lively and heartfelt episode of "The Book Lisp," hosts Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna dive deep into their latest book club selection, share personal anecdotes, and offer glimpses into their intertwined lives as a married couple balancing careers and family. From discussing red flags in relationships to reminiscing about Jon's NFL days, this episode is a rich tapestry of humor, vulnerability, and insightful conversations.

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1. Recent Travels and Life Updates

The episode kicks off with Jon and Sarah reflecting on their recent adventures. Having just returned from a trip to Montana and preparing for an upcoming journey to Vegas, the couple shares their travel experiences and the exhaustion that comes with their busy schedules.

• Jon Ryan [01:19]: "I am drinking some red wine. I'm having a nice day. I'm very tired."
• Sarah Colonna [01:26]: "We're doing a bit of a pre-record because we're fresh off quite a trip to Montana and flew in this morning. You can hear it. We're a little tired."

Their camaraderie is evident as they joke about the challenges of maintaining energy levels amidst their hectic lives.

2. Book Review: "Then She Was Gone" by Lisa Jewell

Central to the episode is their discussion of the month's book selection, "Then She Was Gone" by Lisa Jewell. Sarah highlights the intense discussions it has sparked among their listeners, particularly in their Facebook group, "The Book Listeners."

• Sarah Colonna [03:09]: "Then She Was Gone by Lisa Jewell. It's got all the kids talking on the Facebook group."

They delve into the emotional depth of the story, focusing on the protagonist Laurel's struggle to move forward after her child's disappearance and the resulting strain on her marriage.

• Sarah Colonna [07:44]: "Her marriage fell apart after her child went missing, like they do, which we can all understand. It's always sad."
• Jon Ryan [08:25]: "Sometimes when you start talking about that, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes in pro sports."

3. Upcoming Book: "Beach Vibes" by Susan Mallory

Looking ahead, Jon announces their May book pick, "Beach Vibes" by Susan Mallory, describing it as a "fun beach read." Although Sarah hasn't started the book yet, she shares her excitement and teases listeners with upcoming content.

• Jon Ryan [04:35]: "Beach Vibes by Susan Mallory. It's a fun beach read, you're saying?"
• Sarah Colonna [05:08]: "But this book, Lisa Jewel, Then She Was Gone."

4. Red Flags in Relationships: Personal Stories and Insights

A significant portion of the episode revolves around the theme of "red flags" in relationships. Sarah connects this topic to their current book, discussing how Laurel struggles to recognize warning signs when entering the dating scene after her traumatic experience.

• Sarah Colonna [07:44]: "She seems like she doesn't notice a red flag. When a red flag is just like, what's up, girl?"
• Jon Ryan [08:37]: "Yes, a lot when I was younger."

Jon shares his own experiences of ignoring red flags in past relationships, leading to messy breakups, and contrasts them with the stability he finds in his marriage with Sarah.

• Jon Ryan [10:22]: "I met you, I knew it was forever... So I think I had a lot of those other relationships."

These candid discussions offer listeners relatable insights into navigating the complexities of romantic relationships.

5. Anecdotes from Jon Ryan's NFL Career

Jon provides an intriguing glimpse into his life as an NFL punter, sharing stories that highlight both the discipline required and the humorous side of his career.

• Jon Ryan [12:25]: "People don't realize maybe in the NFL, before every game, we stay in a hotel... wives are not invited."
• Sarah Colonna [14:15]: "We were not. It was..."

He recounts incidents like trying to stay in the hotel to avoid unnecessary travel and the strict regulations that prohibit players' spouses from accompanying them, ensuring privacy and focus during the season.

• Jon Ryan [16:49]: "And then on the road, when I would go back to see my wife, I just... it was a weird tangent."

Jon's stories are peppered with humor and a touch of nostalgia, painting a vivid picture of life on the football field and the personal sacrifices that come with it.

6. Family Stories and Bone Marrow Registry

Towards the end of the episode, Jon and Sarah open up about their family, sharing a heartwarming story about their nephew Lincoln's battle with aplastic anemia.

• Sarah Colonna [47:08]: "Our nephew Lincoln has... a match in the entire world that completely was his exact bone marrow match."
• Jon Ryan [48:11]: "Join the registry. All it takes, a swab of your cheek. It's so easy."

They emphasize the importance of the bone marrow registry, encouraging listeners to consider joining to potentially save lives, as Lincoln's mother was unknowingly a perfect match, leading to his recovery.

7. Closing Remarks and Support for the Podcast

In their heartfelt conclusion, Jon and Sarah express gratitude to their listeners, reminding them of the various ways to support the podcast, including joining their Patreon for bonus content, following them on social media, and leaving reviews.

• Sarah Colonna [48:14]: "Another way you can always help us if you can't do any of the above is just rate, review and subscribe."
• Jon Ryan [49:09]: "Beach Fives by Susan Mallory."

They wrap up with a final nod to their May book pick and a playful exchange, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating the next episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jon Ryan [10:18]: "I think I was in a lot of relationships... until I met you, because I was like, oh, we're on equal scale or equal footing."
• Sarah Colonna [23:10]: "I do that. Yeah."
• Jon Ryan [29:12]: "I was probably the worst college student maybe ever."
• Sarah Colonna [32:32]: "It's a good quality to have those skill sets and to know and to be paying attention to your money clearly."

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Conclusion

"Flag on the Date" is a testament to Jon and Sarah's authentic and engaging podcasting style. By weaving together discussions about their book club selection, personal experiences, and heartfelt family stories, they create a space that is both entertaining and deeply relatable. Whether you're a regular listener or new to "The Book Lisp," this episode offers valuable insights and plenty of laughs, making it a must-listen for book enthusiasts and fans of genuine conversational podcasts alike.

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Transcript

[Sarah Colonna]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[John Ryan]

And I'm John Ryan.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[John Ryan]

The Book Lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. That's me. Hi, John.

[John Ryan]

Hi, I'm John. I have a lisp. So don't complain when they. I have a list, but you're listening to it like some people did last week.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. If you don't subscribe.

[John Ryan]

Coming in hot.

[Sarah Colonna]

He's coming in hot. If you don't subscribe to our Patreon, which is only $5 a month, by the way, and we give a lot of fun bonus content. And then you can also watch the video of us talking. But. And on the 5th, the 15th and 25th, you get all this fun bonus content. Anyway, we told the story on this past one on the fifth about a rude. So I'm not gonna repeat the story because we already told it, but it was super annoying. And there you go. That's your teaser if you want to go join Patreon for $5 a month. John, how are you? You're in our kitchen.

[John Ryan]

I am drinking some red wine. I'm having a nice day. I'm very tired.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know, right? So we're like. We're. We're kind of pre recording here because. Not kind of pre recording. We are pre recording because we are. John's going to Cleveland tomorrow. We just got back from Montana. We're going to Vegas on Thursday. So we're doing a. A bit of a pre record and were fresh off quite a trip to Montana and flew in this morning. You can hear it. We're a little tired.

[John Ryan]

Well, we got up at 3:45, which was really 2:45 LA time, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

So we are tired. And here's the thing about Montana, is that was your first trip ever to Montana, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

It's like, it's just a dangerous place for people like you and I.

[Sarah Colonna]

Why is that?

[John Ryan]

The whole. Every town was just filled with dive bars. Every dive bar has slot machines, poker, $5, Tito's. Everything is like, I pick up a round for everyone. Last night, we're at the bar and I was like, sir, I'll just buy a round for the whole bar. There's 20 people sitting at the bar. I bought everyone a jello shot and it was like 20 bucks. And there was like 20 people. I was like, this is. We went to one place and we had whatever it was there's a whole table of us. There was like eight Tito's, whatever, and it was $7 for a Tito. And we live in LA, where it's like 14 to $18 a drink.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. Yeah, I was gonna say so. You know, we just live in a very expensive area. So when we go somewhere and everything's less expensive, you're like, what are we doing?

[John Ryan]

Yeah. And I go. I go to the. When she brings us our bill, it's $7. It's like $56 for eight Titos. And I was like, is this like, happy hour pricing? She's like, oh, no, we don't have happy hour on Tito's. I'm sorry. I'm like, so it's $7. Like, that's your normal price? She's like, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm like, oh, no, no, no. I think this is cheap. She's like, oh, I thought you were complaining that it was expensive. I'm like, no, no. I'm used to paying like $15 for a Tito. Like, $7 is great. Thank you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. It was so fun. We definitely saw some vocalist spinners there. We saw some more. You my podcasters there saw some friends. You guys know that Mary or my co host on Are you My podcast open for me featured for me there. We had so much fun. It was such a fun weekend. So thank you guys that came out. We have such a good book this month. Yeah, that's really good, if I do say so myself. Then she was gone. Yeah, Then she was Gone by Lisa Jewell. It's got all the kids talking on the Facebook group. Are you are sorry. The Book Listeners is our Facebook group for this podcast. And you can follow us on Instagram at the book list. If you're new, it shows you how to break everything down. You won't get any spoilers about the book until week four. We just find some topics now. What's funny is we were talking about this. Oh, wait. John also just.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Remind them of your May pick because we announced it last week.

[John Ryan]

Beach Vibes by Susan Mallory.

[Sarah Colonna]

Is it a fun.

[John Ryan]

It's a fun beach read, you're saying? Fun.

[Sarah Colonna]

For those of you that are watching on Patreon. John saying it and, like, stroking his chin while he says it. He's getting weird.

[John Ryan]

I'm in a weird place in the kitchen right now where the sun is right in my eyes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do you want to move?

[John Ryan]

Not really. I'm just gonna rock this out.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, yeah. So Beach Vibes by Susan Mallory, which I haven't started Yet. But I was reading our Patreon short story the Fall Risk by Abby Jimenez on the plane home from Montana, and that's a really fun read, too. But this book, Lisa Jewel, then she was gone.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

As we were saying last week, it's a little bit different when it's my picks to fill in the weeks leading up. Not filling. To do that. To do the weeks leading up. Because.

[John Ryan]

To find topics that aren't depressing. Because we have. We don't. We don't talk about the book necessarily. We get inspiration from the book and take topics from the book and. Without getting any spoilers. Yes. And with Sarah's books, they're dark, so it's just like, oh, like, who are your five favorite kids have gone missing ever? Like, recount, like all the kids you've ever seen on milk carton. Let's talk about them. No, it's not necessarily always a fun topic.

[Sarah Colonna]

No. So we try to mix it up so that when we have the weeks leading up to the week four, we can have some fun. So we were talking about, for those of you. Again, we're not going to spoil anything, but for those of you reading along or have already read it or even if you haven't, or if you've just started, you know that Lauren, our main character is Lauren. Right. Were you. Are you texting me?

[John Ryan]

No, I was just writing down something about. We're going to talk about today.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, what was.

[John Ryan]

I literally, I picked up my phone and I wrote basements.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, sorry. By the way, it's Laurel, not Lauren. I just up her name, but Laurel. Laurel. And then she was gone. She's our mom. She's the mom of the child that has gone missing, which is what the whole book is about. So again. Oh, Ralphie just jumped on the desk.

[John Ryan]

By the way, my microphone is filled with cat hair from him robbing his damn head on this thing.

[Sarah Colonna]

He's just happy to see us. Hi, bubbas. Okay, so we were talking about certain things in this book I found interesting that when you, when you take it off of like the path of the book, but you think about Laurel herself and she. Her marriage fell apart after her child went missing, like they do, which we can all understand. It's always sad. Um, and even though this is fictional, I think that happens quite often in real life too.

[John Ryan]

Does.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, but he moves on and she can't. She's stuck in the past trying to figure out what happened to her child. That's kind of. That's the premise of the book. So no Spoilers. But once she does decide to get herself back out there dating, she seems to have bad radars. Like, no radar, bad pickers off her pickers off. She seems like she doesn't notice a red flag. When a red flag is just like, what's up, girl? I'm here.

[John Ryan]

I'm a red flag.

[Sarah Colonna]

So I wanted to talk a little bit with you, John, about whether or not you have ever had any red flags and ignored them.

[John Ryan]

Yes, a lot when I was younger.

[Sarah Colonna]

Noticed them.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, a lot when I was younger. And now also, I think the kids are saying now is green flag. I know my niece. My niece had one of her first second boyfriend and she would always be like, green flag, green flag. I'm like, oh, God, Quinn.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, she does.

[John Ryan]

She.

[Sarah Colonna]

I thought she had like a long term boyfriend now. Long term.

[John Ryan]

I mean, they broke up. It was very upsetting.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, right. Okay.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I feel very bad for.

[Sarah Colonna]

Listen, we have a lot of nieces and nephews.

[John Ryan]

Oh, God.

[Sarah Colonna]

And so when they go through it, it's John and I don't know what to do. We don't know.

[John Ryan]

We're talking like we got like 14 of them between the ages of 27 and 10.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Is Mary 10?

[Sarah Colonna]

Probably by now.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because she was running. She was a baby. Which is crazy, by the way. I keep thinking she's five, but yeah, she's.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I know, I know. Ralphie's out here now. He went from you on your desk to my desk.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's what he does. Anyway. Go ahead, tell me your. Yeah, green flags are a good thing. That's what the kids are saying. When you notice something characteristic or trait or skill, whatever.

[John Ryan]

I think when I was younger, I think I really ignored red flags early on in a relationship, even though I knew they were going to become like a problem later on. I think I. I think I was in a lot of relationships in my life where I was like, oh, this. This relationship definitely has like an expiration date to it. We don't know when it's gonna be. But this isn't like my forever person until I met you. That was the first time I was like, oh, like I. Like, this is my forever person. So I think I had a lot of.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did you just say that for the listeners? No, you know that I know.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I met you, I knew it was forever, but so I think that a lot of those other relationships that might have been some probably like some miscommunication because I was probably someone with maybe, you know how, you know, they always say one Person likes the other person more in a relationship, and whoever that is has the upper hand.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right, Right.

[John Ryan]

So I felt that in every relationship I've ever been in until I met you, because I was like, oh, we're, like, on equal scale or equal footing? We like each other the same.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

And so when I saw those red flags and other relationships, I was. I just ignored them and then had messy breakups.

[Sarah Colonna]

But what were some of those red flags?

[John Ryan]

So here's one I had. I had a girlfriend, and I was like, oh, she's like. She's really nice. She's really nice. Everyone's like, she's a. Like, I see you next Tuesday. Like, she's awful to everyone. She's just nice to you. I'm like, no, no, no. And. But. And then I started. Which one.

[Sarah Colonna]

She. Which was this. I love when he starts talking about. I get so mad when. When you start talk like a.

[John Ryan]

My. My entire butt puckers up. I don't like to talk about any of your exes. I just, like, pretend like you and I are, like, the first. We're 15, and we just met. No, there's no one else. And you like all the stories.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, when he starts talking about his exes, I get like. It's. It's just this. I get so happy because I want. I'm like, tell me about that dumb bitch. I want to hear about that dumb bitch. Tell me what she did, how I love it. It's like, this would.

[John Ryan]

This would be the one that lived with me for a little bit in Seattle.

[Sarah Colonna]

Gross.

[John Ryan]

Yes, I know. For whatever. It was a few months, and I could see, like, all the red flags. I just ignore them, like, no, no. But she's nice to me, and everyone's like, she is, like, awful to everyone else. Like, she's the one that. My buddies. My buddies came to town. I told you this, though, right? So Saturday night, I'm staying at a hotel because I'm playing football on Sunday morning.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, tell them about that. Just real quick.

[John Ryan]

And they.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, tell them about that. I think that's true.

[John Ryan]

People don't realize that maybe in the NFL, before every game, we stay in a hotel, whether we're at home or on the road. A very private hotel. Wives are not invited, not allowed on the floor. And you always hear people like, yeah, but they sneak women on the floor. You guys don't understand. The team comes in and puts alarms on the outside. We'll have, like, three floors all to ourselves. Team will come in and put alarms on the doors, exiting to the stairs. So if anyone walks down the stairs.

[Sarah Colonna]

The alarm goes off because motherfuckers can't be trusted to follow the rules.

[John Ryan]

Hired police officers that sit on a. By a table in front of the elevator, not only to, like, make. Make sure we don't get out for one, but mainly to make sure no one gets on our floor to try to harass any player or anything. So it's. It's very private and it's that. That's at home or on the road. So every Single game for 19 years, I was in a hotel. Here's the thing. In the cfl, they didn't do that in Canada. Didn't do that because it's, you know, budget's a little tight. So I went back to Canada after playing 13 years in the NFL, and I went to Canada in my first, like, two games. Like some, like, we're playing at home. I was like, something's off. Like something just isn't right. Like I can't get right. So my whole thing was I was like sleeping at home. So after that, every single game when I was in Saskatchewan, I went and I booked the hotel. I stayed in a hotel the night for every game that I paid for. The hotel Saskatchewan, you were there many times? Yeah, I just paid for a hotel to stay in there the night before because I was like, what. What I was used to for 13 years.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, and it made. And you were. You felt off doing anything else. Yeah. It's funny.

[John Ryan]

And, and. And people don't realize. They're like, yeah, but Russell Wilson didn't do that. Like, yes, he did. It's like Sierra stayed on the floor. Same floor that Sarah stayed on the floor above us.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know, we're not allowed in their rooms, guys.

[John Ryan]

We were not. It was.

[Sarah Colonna]

They could come down to our rooms until, like, whatever, 10:00pm yes.

[John Ryan]

Taylor. 11:00 curfew. 11:00 curfew. Quick booty call. I went up to the wife's floor and a player was. I don't want to say his name, but he had two women stand on that floor on opposite sides of the floor. And he comes up. He's like, John. 0 for 2, man. 0 for 2. Yeah. I have two girls stay on this floor and I got nothing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, no. I don't even want to.

[John Ryan]

I don't want to tell his name later. I'll tell you his name later.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I don't want to.

[John Ryan]

No, he was. He was not a married. He was a single man.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, great. Okay, then we're good.

[John Ryan]

So yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Just having some fun.

[John Ryan]

People want to know like, what did Travis Kelce like? Oh, no, this rules doesn't apply for Travis, Kelsey and Taylor. Yes, it does.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes, it does.

[John Ryan]

Everyone after the game, everyone gets on the plane. No wives, no one else is involved. It's a private plane. They go back to the, the Kansas City or Seattle, it's the same.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you have to be on that plane. I don't think people realize that. It's like, yeah, I mean, if you decide to not be on the team plane, which you I think discussed maybe doing only once and it was because you guys had a bye week, the next week.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So you were like, what if I don't go on the team plane and I go straight back to see my wife instead? And. But they charge you. There's a fine.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. And I, I didn't get in 19 years, I never got fine. And I'm such a rule follower that I wouldn't do it. So we played a Thursday night game in Arizona. And after that, this was, this was like right before I met you. Like the year I met you, we played a Thursday night game. So when you play a Thursday night game, you get Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. You come in for Monday for a little bit, then you get Tuesday off. So that's why like playing Thursday sucked. But after the days after were amazing because he got like a whole weekend off. They're playing Arizona. Steve Houschka and myself, we were going to stay there. His wife was going to stay there with him as well. And then so we talked to Pete the week, during the week, Pete Carroll, like, Pete, can we just stay there? Because like, we're going to have to like fly to Seattle and fly right back the next morning. It's pointless. He goes, no, I want everyone on the plane. So after the game, Steve, how She goes, fuck this. Because he and I go up to him, he goes, pete, would you reconsider? Would you mind if we stayed here? Because, like, I'm literally just going to fly back and then Tomorrow morning at 6am I going to fly right back here. Like, there's no meetings tomorrow, there's nothing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

He goes, no, I want everyone on the plane. Steve Hus goes, that. And walks out the back door of the stadium and stays there. And so I go in, I go in the next morning, working out at like 6am before my flight, Pete Carroll comes up to me, goes, oh, you didn't stay? I'm like, of course I didn't stay, Pete. Because he's like, Well, I have to find Houschka. And he looks and he goes, yeah, you should have stayed. And Steve, they find him $1,000. It was nothing like usually a fine. The other was like 10,020. Like an amount of money. No matter how much money you're making, it hurts you a little bit. Yeah, right. Like if I had like take off ten grand off my paycheck. Oh, that kind of sucks. Thousand dollars, which is like when you play the NFL is like a freaking five bucks.

[Sarah Colonna]

During. Yes, during that time when you're like, I could do that. Or I have to pay for a flight to come or pay 400 bucks.

[John Ryan]

To come back the next one. And miss out on a night of hanging out in Arizona. Which, you know, it was hilarious. But yeah, that's the whole thing with the NFL. You're in a hotel, everything's very regimented. Regimented?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Is that a word?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Ryan]

So it doesn't matter who you are. Everyone plays by the same rules.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, so that was a weird tangent that I got him on too. But yeah, once he started. No, but once he started saying it, I wanted to follow through because I.

[John Ryan]

Think it's interesting because whenever you start talking about that, people like. Because people don't really realize what goes on behind the scenes in pro sports. Whatever. I think everyone, Everyone just kind of thinks it's just like no holds bar. You know, you show up on Sunday, you play for three hours and everyone just scatters. You know, it's like, it's so much. People don't realize that we're putting in 60 hour weeks every single week. We get maybe one day off a week, a day off on Tuesday. And everybody usually comes into work anyways. It's like you are working your ass off for the entire season for 19 years.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, and then on the road, like he was just saying about even at home having to sleep in a hotel. But then on the road, when I would go to see him, we would. I would get to see him before we go out to dinner at like 5:00. And then you would have your meetings and then you could come to my room for a little bit. And then you didn't want to booty booty because it was like bad luck or whatever.

[John Ryan]

Before, sometimes I could. I couldn't resist. Can resist the booty booty.

[Sarah Colonna]

Are you saying I'm sexy?

[John Ryan]

So, yes, I definitely am dumb. You're all crazy.

[Sarah Colonna]

But we. John, we're doing a podcast. Don't make it weird.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, so anyway, 25 minutes left.

[Sarah Colonna]

But then he would have to be in bed. He would have to be in bed at like 10 o'clock, lights out. And so then I would go out to the hotel bar or whatever and just like look for anyone that was around or maybe another wife. Does anyone want to hang out? I don't know anyone here.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, like, we weren't even allowed, like, the lobby bar. Players are not allowed the lobby bar. So if you even went down to have a drink, I couldn't even join you. Like, I was just. It was. You're.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's locked in and I was at the lobby bar. Always, always, always enjoying my life. So jealous. Anyway, back to red flags.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

So the one that, um, there was a couple that your mom didn't like. We've talked about this before, but did what red flags. Did you think your mom saw that? Say, if we go back to the book, my Laurel's mom, what should have seen in her? Well, I'm not going to give any spoilers, but in someone in the book.

[John Ryan]

My mom is very protective. So when I, When I first came into money playing the NFL, then she was just like, all these bitches out there for the money. Yeah. You know, and then she was very. So she was always like, very, like, aware of that. And I was like. I mean, she was probably like, hard to deal with as a woman that was dating me back then.

[Sarah Colonna]

So on that note, your mom has always been kind, amazing, welcoming, great to me. I mean, I don't know when we first started dating. I don't know what she may have or not said behind my back, but as. As. Just to clarify, nothing, nothing that I. His mom and I have a wonderful relationship. I love her and she loves me and we text and we love each other and it's great. But did she have any red flags about me that she said to you?

[John Ryan]

No, not. I can honestly say, like, not one.

[Sarah Colonna]

Really?

[John Ryan]

I mean, no, never.

[Sarah Colonna]

And I think that I feel like I'm a walking red flag.

[John Ryan]

No, you're not, baby. Green flag. I think if you flip it, obviously you family friends probably thought all the same things, like, gross pro athlete guy that dm's me tries to get with me. You know, I think there's probably on.

[Sarah Colonna]

Years, oh, my friends thought that was all a green flag. They were like, go for it. Not one friend, not one friend was like, he might be gross. He's a pro athlete. They were all like, go get that girl.

[John Ryan]

One of the funniest things was I think Chris was talking to Chris Frangola was Talking to Jenkirk one time about. About her love life, and she's like, some pro athlete's not just going to pick you out of a lineup and come and get you because you and Sarah live in the same neighborhood. And that already happened to her. Elaine doesn't strike twice. So funny.

[Sarah Colonna]

Your mom didn't have any red flags about me.

[John Ryan]

I did. I don't know. Like, I. Not that I ever heard of. Like, I don't. I think that. I think she knew. I think everyone knew. Everyone knew when they saw us together. I think Logan knew. My family knew. You know, I don't think anyone is like, oh, I don't know if this is gonna work. I don't think maybe there's probably a few.

[Sarah Colonna]

But I'm trying to think of red flags for people that I dated previous to you. Because you didn't have any red flags to me, but people that I. I dated previous to you.

[John Ryan]

I think. Do you think. Do you have, like, anything that you think you like, exhibit red flags? I do.

[Sarah Colonna]

I do that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I think a red flag for me that I put out is that I'm overly sensitive. Overly sensitive.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay.

[John Ryan]

So I think that that would be something that you would look at, like, oh, he's like, so. And even I'm sensitive. Like, a little bit touchy. But also I'm like, I'm very sensitive. Like, I like to buy you gifts, like, do things for you. And I still see it every time. When you do this show, you have a joke that you talk about how I. Our first day, I brought you, like, a box of my favorite things. Yeah. And even, like, y. Yesterday.

[Sarah Colonna]

Gotta pay to hear the joke. Sorry, guys. Come see.

[John Ryan]

Every once in a while, I hear someone in the crowd. It's usually, no offense, usually like an angry single woman. Like, like on Saturday, I hear someone yell. You're like, I showed up with a box of things. And we had already been talking for a month. I had a box of things. I wanted to show you my favorite things. I want you to get to know me better. And I share one. A woman in the front. Go, gross.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. She did. And I was like, no, it's not gross. It's the best thing ever. It's when I talk about on stage, do I take. I have fun with it. Of course. But that's because it happened to me. It's my own personal story. But yeah, if you think it's gross, then I'm kind of like, well, that's a red flag for you.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, that I heard. What they would talk about some creepy.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, this wasn't.

[John Ryan]

This wasn't our first day. Wasn't like a Tinder date where it's like we had been talking for a month.

[Sarah Colonna]

You don't have to defend it.

[John Ryan]

And I'm defending every time you want angry single woman with 19 cats in the front row, go creepy.

[Sarah Colonna]

First of all, first of all, big cat lady. Big cat lady over here. As you know.

[John Ryan]

So we have three. We have an appropriate amount of cat. That's three.

[Sarah Colonna]

Let's not stereotype angry cat ladies. That's not a thing. It's not just some people. I think. I also think sometimes when people are in the audience.

[John Ryan]

Stereotype. Sorry.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. When some. When people are in the audience, I think also people think they're being funny.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. 100.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And they're trying. I think they're adding to it. So when they know that I'm kind of having fun with this story, then they're like, oh, yeah, gross. Whatever. They think we're about to bond over it. And I'm like, no, that's not where I was going.

[John Ryan]

No, I get that in your shows too, that you're like, I married a pro athlete, like, yeah, but a punter. It's like, you couldn't do three push ups. What are you talking about? Why. Why are you making fun of me?

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, I can't do three pushups.

[John Ryan]

No, no, no. The f. Saying they're like, yeah, but he's only a punter. They say that all. They all laugh like that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, this is, by the way, I just want every listener to know this is John's voice when he. He tells a dirty joke, like a dirty dad joke.

[John Ryan]

But Mary followed me this weekend.

[Sarah Colonna]

He does that laugh. And I. I'm looking at you right now on the video. If you're watching this. I. I don't like it.

[John Ryan]

I know.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's me out. But also, it's really funny.

[John Ryan]

Well, here's the.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't know what to do with it because you always stop doing it.

[John Ryan]

Doing it. Yeah, we do it. But no, sorry, here.

[Sarah Colonna]

Then you wear his real life. It's so cute and, like innocent and sweet and it's so not like that. You're not like that, and that's why it's funny. What do you say? What did you say? Oh, I'll tell you guys what he said. I'll tell you exactly what he said. I'm gonna tell you guys exactly what he said. Oh, I. I said, yeah, I'm gonna tell everybody. You know what it's a podcast, and we're being ourselves. And. And the weeks leading up to. To week four are off the rails. So here we go. So I said to John that one of my girlfriends had texted me, and she said, oh, there's this place that does, like, a lymphatic drainage massage. I think you would like it. It really cleans you out. Toxins, whatever, and who knows whatever. But I'm one of the first people. If a friend tells me one thing made them feel good, I'm the first person to go, like, sign up for it. And she goes, oh, I slept great. I was in a good mood. I don't know. I just think it really, like, cleans out your system and you feel good. I tell John about it. What do you say? Two seconds later.

[John Ryan]

What did I say?

[Sarah Colonna]

You said you wanted to clean your balls out.

[John Ryan]

Clean my balls out.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then he gets up.

[John Ryan]

Laugh. But it's. It was because we hadn't had sex that morning. And then I'm. When I'm around Mary, Mary brings it up because she even admits she was inside. I'm a dirty old man. So she encourages this behavior that I already.

[Sarah Colonna]

You together. I can't. Yeah, the two of you together, like. Like those two Muppets that sit in the.

[John Ryan]

But.

[Sarah Colonna]

But say just, like, disgusting things.

[John Ryan]

So she encourages it. And so that's like my. It's like my punchline enders. Like, I say something, like, completely inappropriate so that I'd normally not ever say. It's just my. My character. And then I do that laugh. Yeah, it's a little bit like Ronnie from the Stern.

[Sarah Colonna]

The Stern show. Yeah. We're both big Howard Stern fans, and it's very big Howard. All right, okay, okay, I'll stop. The other things. I'm gonna move along that.

[John Ryan]

Yes, please.

[Sarah Colonna]

This episode is all over the place. We know that. The other thing that a little bit inspired by the book that we want. First of all. Oh, no, I wanted to ask you one question first, because in the book, right at the beginning again, no spoiler. You know that Ellie, the missing daughter, was going to a tutor. Did you ever have a math tutor or a tutor, anything?

[John Ryan]

I never had a math tutor because I was, like, a mathematical genius.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really?

[John Ryan]

Very good at math. Yes. I'm, like, very, very good at math. In eighth grade, they just let me go outside the classroom. I didn't have to go to math class. I went home. I did the entire book. The entire book? One night, like, the entire math book. And I just didn't have to Math for the rest of the year.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, what do you mean?

[John Ryan]

They're like, you're like, you're like, you're, you're, you're doing this too easily. Just go into this room across the way and just do it on your own. So I just went home that night. I did the whole entire math. What do you call it? Book. The entire book for the whole year. I just did it all that night. And then I just. Every, every, every day for the one hour math class, I just went across the hallway and just hung out.

[Sarah Colonna]

And that was for your. You didn't skip a grade with it. But that was no whole year.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it was like math. Math has always come like so easy to me.

[Sarah Colonna]

See, you know, I didn't even know that was the thing though, because I. I mean, granted, I went to school in Farmington, Arkansas, and.

[John Ryan]

So why don't you go into Johnna Saskatchewan, babe, Like, let's not. We're both bragging.

[Sarah Colonna]

But I just, I. There was. I mean, I think I did whatever they call the. Forgive me guys, but whatever they call the elevated classes.

[John Ryan]

Advanced placement.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. Something like. Yeah, I don't think they called it that there, but maybe. But so I was in that. In, in like English class.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because I was really good at punctuation and reading and all those things.

[John Ryan]

And I've never been that good at that.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then with math, I was. I don't. I mean, I was. I didn't do badly, but I didn't do well. But never. It never. I never had to have a tutor. I never was. And I shouldn't say had to have because obviously people have tutors for very different reasons. Dyslexia or just. It's just not your subject, it's just not your thing. It's just a thing you struggle with. And if I ever was to have a tutor, I would say it should have been math. I was good at the basics, but when we started getting into algebra and all that stuff, it just. Well, you know this well because you're married to me, so you know I can't do math. And you probably wish I could. Much better. But I almost wish I would have had some kind of mathematical tutor just to. Just to break things down better for me because my brain just doesn't wrap around that numbers. It just doesn't. If you give me a breakdown, if you go again, basics, no problem.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

But if you try to tell me how to, I don't know, balance my future mathematically, I go blank.

[John Ryan]

And I'm the Exact opposite. Where I struggle a little bit with, like. Like, I have to ask you how to spell words or like, punctuation. I'm terrible at it, but I'm like, for fun. I think math is, like, fun to me. Like, still now I. I calculate, like, what our net worth is going to be when I'm 84 years old. Like, I have, like, mathematical calculators for different, like, mortgages and everything. It's like, I love. I do it almost every day. Like, I check in on our finances every day. And with the calculators, like, add up, like, how much. Everything's going to be. How much is going to. We're going to have someday. And I love it. So that's why.

[Sarah Colonna]

Which, by the way, is a really good quality. I don't. It might be a little bit obsessive.

[John Ryan]

Absolutely obsessive.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. But it's a good quality to have those skill sets and to know and to be paying attention to your money clearly.

[John Ryan]

Every morning we play wordle and you are way better at wordle than I am. Way. It comes way more natural to you than me. And then we play connections also. You're way better. The other day, the connections, instead of have on April Fools, instead of having words, they had, like, symbols that. Symbols instead of words. And I got the whole puzzle in like 15 seconds. Like, it was. I was like, oh, finally they're talking my language. Like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was done. And then you put all these words, like, today I can never get them. And you always get them. So just like, we're different. Not all ways, but you pretty much always get it.

[Sarah Colonna]

But I do like putting words together. But sometimes they get frustrated on Connections. Doesn't matter. However, yes, April Fool's was. So to the other listeners that are connections players, that was. But John, I ended up getting it too, because I started to. As you do most, you got to close out and you got to go back. That's what I've always realized. You gotta. You gotta go, I gotta go back. And then. And then you see it with fresh eyes. If you're not getting it the first thing in the morning, go back an hour later. And then all of a sudden you go like on April Fool's. We're not ruining it for anyone because that was weeks ago now or two weeks ago now, and you can't replay it. So. But it was like, oh, some were currency signs and you start to see that. And then some, I think, represented edition, like, plus or something.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

And anyway. But he got those pretty Quickly. And I was just sitting there with like, as I like to say, with my dick in my hands. No idea what I was doing. But we're really going off on different tangents today.

[John Ryan]

Do you think we'd be married if you did have a dick? That's weird.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I don't think so.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I don't think we would. No.

[Sarah Colonna]

Just because that's not what you're into.

[John Ryan]

No, no, no. Into the other.

[Sarah Colonna]

You would be a really. Into the.

[John Ryan]

I'm into the innie.

[Sarah Colonna]

How do you guys know if you're watching on Patreon? You just see me grimacing right now, just trying so hard not to.

[John Ryan]

And you see me blushing. Even though I think it's funny, I still blush every time.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's my favorite thing about you, by the way.

[John Ryan]

Is what?

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, one of my favorite things. I have a lot of favorite things.

[John Ryan]

About you, but thank you, baby.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, just that you'll. You love to do this sort of out of character thing, like that joke that, that. But then when you're doing it, you also start blushing because it's so not you that you almost can't stand it yourself. But also it's funny. So it's like I'm a crowd pleaser, but I'm embarrassing, but I'm like blushing for myself at the same time. Does that make sense? It makes me laugh.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. So back to your question as a player about tutors. So as a college football player, we had to go to a study hall once a week, go to study hall. They had like a, a professor or someone we had like check in with. It went over all your grades for that week, any classes, anything you're having trouble with, and they have to, they'd hire you a tutor or whatever. And I was. But probably the worst college student that ever got through college. I didn't really get through. I left a year and a half early to play pro football. But I was the worst college student maybe ever. I went to college for three and a half years and I was on academic probation for three years. And, and, and Sarah, I took three classes a semester, the absolute minimum that it would take to be able to play football. So I had like, I left school. And I think whatever it was, I think you need 120 credit hours to get a degree. And I think I had like 63 credit hours. Like, I don't even have half a degree. I barely have half a degree. And I got, I got a letter from the Dean in my fourth year saying you have taken 18, 100 level courses. You are not allowed to take 100 level courses anymore. When I was going into my third or fourth year of college, my third year in college, my brother started playing football with me too. Like he was coming out of high school. So we got to play together for two years and I go, oh, this is awesome, man. We can take classes together. This is my third year, it's my junior year. He goes, you've been in school for three years? Like, I'm taking 100 level classes. I'm like, yeah, me too, buddy. Like, this is gonna be awesome. The way he tells the story is even better because he's like, what are you taught? What have you been doing for three years?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, and then anyways, you have a tutor at some point.

[John Ryan]

So I had a tutor, but I didn't really care. The team was like, you need a tutor for economics. Which is funny because, like, I actually love economics.

[Sarah Colonna]

But yeah, that's what you're good at.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I was like, I'm just here to play football. I don't care about this. And even I had one time when I was like struggling in school, which I struggled for three and a half years just because I didn't care. Like, I would go to maybe half the classes, probably not even, like, I would just sleep through. And I scheduled my, my, my school year every year I schedule it so I'd go from Tuesday and Thursday from 8:30 till 12:30. So I'd only pick classes that were in that bracket. So I didn't have to go to school on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or on Tuesday, Thursday afternoon. So I only pick those classes. But then I never wanted to wake up for them, so I just slept through them.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're not, you don't sleep through anything. That is not you. No, but you're like, you're very regimented. You're like, this is when I get up, this is when you do my thing.

[John Ryan]

But that's the thing. I was very regimented about football. So I had to wake up. When I woke up, get a good sleep. So I gotta work out and go to football practice. Okay, So I know where I was going with any of this, but I'm just, I mean, just. I was a terrible. I was so one time when my grades were really bad, really bad. And I went to my mom and I was a little stressed. I'm like, I'm not even passing these classes. And she said to me, she goes, as long as you're playing football, we don't care. And it was one of the.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, she she knew because she's like.

[John Ryan]

And I knew that she would not say that to, you know, my other siblings or anyone else, but she was just like. Like, we got like, don't stress. And it was one of the greatest things that ever happened to me because then I was just like, oh, shit. Like, this is, like, full on football. Like, just give everything to football. Everything else is secondary. And that's been like, literally. I remember this conversation in my mom's, like, front porch, and she said that to me, and I was like, oh, like, I'm on. Like, everything else was backburner. Football was like, everything.

[Sarah Colonna]

It was permission. It was, like, permission to launch in one way.

[John Ryan]

It was permission just to go full football. And it was a great. One of the greatest words that ever happened to me. And I was like, probably the worst advice you'd probably give 99.99% of the people out there to do something like that. Put all your eggs in one basket. But my mom, like, she always just saw something in me, and she was like, this is gonna happen.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know what's interesting about that? Okay, so again with this, with these off weeks before we get to the book spoilers. No, it just goes all over the place. But then. And then I feel like I end up learning things about you, and then we end up talking about. Because for me, be. This started with us talking about how Ellie in the book had a math tutor. Right.

[John Ryan]

Right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because that. And so now we get to find out how you. Your mom basically was like, it. And don't. You don't need really a tutor. You just need to look at this one thing. And I really had the same thing as far as support. I had the same. Yeah. And that doesn't mean I would have ended up in a basement like Ellie if I didn't. Okay. Small spoiler alert, but, I mean, she's missing from the beginning of the book, so we're good. But my mom was in stepdad, and dad and stepmom, they were all very supportive of what I wanted to do. Now, on the flip side, I. Because I didn't play sports, I did have to focus on academics. Like, I was. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I played. I was on drill team. And not to brag, but I was captain. It's fine. I had a whistle. My own whistle was engraved anyway, but killed it with the dance routines. But I. I guess my point is I was focused on school and grades and. Probably won't surprise you because you know me well, to know that I was 4.0 student anal. If I got a C, I was devastated. That kind of thing. But then when I got to college and I wanted all that because I wanted, I wanted my college paid for. I wanted, or at least I wanted it my parents to be helped. So when I, because I had good grades, I got a couple scholarships for college for my first semester. Now this is back when college was like $500.

[John Ryan]

I know that. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So, yeah.

[John Ryan]

But when I first got college, it was $330 a class.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I mean, now I can't even imagine what you pay to go to the University of Arkansas, where I went, which is a beautiful school and amazing. But anyway, my, my. But when I told my parents my focus and my major was going to be theater and a Bachelor of Arts in theater, they were like, yeah, of course there was no, like, what is that, by the way? What is it? I don't, I still don't know. I have it. It's never, it hasn't done one thing for me as far as my career on a resume. Nobody's ever looked at my resume and said, oh, oh, you know what, guys? She got a Bachelor of Arts in theater, so let's hire her over this person. However, because of it, I got the training and, and these things that, that meant a lot to me and that I think I needed, but I really don't know where I was going with.

[John Ryan]

Well, yeah, the thing is, but is I think there was times where you were like, I, like, maybe not giving up, but your mom was just like, you're not coming home. Like, you, you went to la, you're staying in la, you're doing this.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. They didn't question like your mom said, okay, go do this. My, my parents never. And it almost is baffling to me because if you think both of us, we grew up in the small towns, you in Canada, me in Arkansas, and we were, we were, we were like, I'm going to do this thing that is, it's not, it's not saying that. It's not that you're more successful than other people from there. It's just a more niche job. Something that very, I mean, how many punchers are in the NFL?

[John Ryan]

32.

[Sarah Colonna]

Exactly. So in the entire United States at one time during a season of, of the NFL, there can only be 32 people doing that job. So you have to really believe in someone to think they can go get that job and the hardest position in.

[John Ryan]

The NFL to make.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes, and you can.

[John Ryan]

The NFL, it's international. Go ahead, though.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, But I just mean that and all of that. But your, your parents can believe in you, believe in you. But to believe that you can make it in such a competitive industry and obviously with acting and stand up comedy, there is more of us. It's not just 32 jobs, but still, it's a tough industry to break into. And my parents never blinked twice. They just were like, okay.

[John Ryan]

And what people out there probably don't realize if you're listening to this anywhere outside of LA is like 99% of the people that move to LA to make it in the industry leave within like three to four years. Because it's almost impossible to make it in the, in the entertainment industry.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

It's not everyone's. You move to L. A, you become a millionaire, it's like. No, it's like 99 of people leave within a few years. They can't make it. So it's brilliant.

[Sarah Colonna]

And not because of talent. It's not.

[John Ryan]

No, absolutely not. No.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's just, it's just a lack of opportunity. Lack of. It's. It's a million things, as you guys can imagine. But anyway, if my mom had been. Laurel, you're bringing it back.

[John Ryan]

Bring it back around, right, Bibi?

[Sarah Colonna]

I am. I'm bringing it back around. She probably would have. She. She should have focused on me doing maths, as they say, because it's a British maths tutor with an S. Yeah. And. And instead she just let. Let my freak flag fly. And I appreciate that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Big time. We had good moms.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And to bring that back to mom.

[John Ryan]

We still have good moms.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, we're still both alive and to. And. And I have a bonus mom, a stepmom too. But to bring that back around. We won't get into it until we talk all our thoughts on week four. But Laurel's a good mom in this book. Yes, Laurel's a good mom. And it. I think the hardest part of this book for me, when you come to not hardest is, but emotionally because you get invested, is. Is where she loses her daughter and, and you know this from the very beginning, but her relationships that suffer with her other children later on and that. And it bums me out, but I also get it. But again, we won't really get into that until week four. But it's food for thought. I want to hear what everyone's thoughts are on what happens with her and her other daughter and her son, because it is. It's a little bit of a. Oh, God. You just want them to all band together and Instead it. These things break people apart.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's. It's very sad. It happens all the time. It's like I. We had an experience in our family. Sarah, who we had one of our nephews who almost died. He was in the hospital for a year and a half and luckily my.

[Sarah Colonna]

Father, aplastic anemia, very rare, very rare, very scary.

[John Ryan]

Had to go through chemo. He was in the hospital for a year and a half. It was touch and go for a long time. But our family's so close that my sisters actually live across the street from each other. And the day it happened, when my. My sisters basically had to move into a Children's Hospital 500 miles away, all three of her other kids just moved right across the street. Like, no questions asked. Just right across the street, right into my sister's place.

[Sarah Colonna]

Pretty fantastic. Yeah. Oh, you made me tear up. Okay.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And by the way, our nephew Lincoln has. Is thriving. He got the one match in the entire world world that completely was his exact bone marrow match. And she saved him. And she was a 50 plus year old lady from Denver who unknowingly when she gave her bone marrow. Right.

[John Ryan]

Yep.

[Sarah Colonna]

Ended up saving his life. And now they know each other and they visited. So just on it, on it.

[John Ryan]

And also if you want to join the registry.

[Sarah Colonna]

Join the registry. Exactly.

[John Ryan]

Join the registry. All it takes, a swab of your cheek. It's so easy. And you can save someone's life like it saved our nephew's life.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's a good message to end this on and an all over the place podcast. But we love you guys so much. Thank you for listening. And don't forget book at the booklet spinners on Facebook. If you want to follow us on Instagram, it's at the Book List. If you want to join Patreon, the Booklist Patreon, it's on our Instagram too that you can just go there and click the link to follow it. $5 a month and we get bonus content, we do short stories and we have a lot of fun. And another way you can always help us if you can't do any of the above is just rate, review and subscribe. Give us a five star rating. Say what you like about us and it helps us a bunch. We appreciate you, John. Tell them one more time you're a May Pick.

[John Ryan]

Beach Fives by Susan Mallory.

[Sarah Colonna]

There you go. Oh, no. Bye. The book List.

[John Ryan]

The book lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

The book list.

[John Ryan]

The book lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

The book lisp.