← The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
Gut Instincts, Creepy Kids, & Family for Hire
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It's week 3 of your April Book Lisp. As always, no book spoilers until week 4, so Jon & Sarah talk about random topics inspired by this month's read: "Then She Was Gone" by Lisa Jewell. Trusting your gut, paying friends and family to do things for you, stingy bartenders and creepy kids. We have it all today. Enjoy!
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Sarah Colonna
Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.
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John Ryan
And I'm John Ryan.
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Sarah Colonna
And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.
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John Ryan
The Book Lisp.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna Ryan.
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John Ryan
Yes.
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Sarah Colonna
Because I'm your wife.
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John Ryan
John.
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Sarah Colonna
John Ryan Colonna in John Ryan Colona.
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John Ryan
Yes.
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Sarah Colonna
Hi. Welcome. Happy Monday or whatever day you listen to this. We are excited to continue this month with Then She Was Gone by Lisa Jewel. Next week is the big week. Next week. I mean, every week's a big week, but I mean, next week's when we get to actually dive into the book because there's things that we don't say during the month so that we don't spoil anything for anyone who's behind. I know a lot of our listeners are overachievers and are like, already onto the next book, which is Beach Vibes by Susan Mallory. That is John's May pick. It's a newer book. It came out in March. I know that some people were saying it could. They couldn't get it at the library, but I know that then some were saying it's available early May in their library. So you have all of. You still have all of May, which is great. I know it's on Kindle. I know it's paperback, but. And then there's that lending app from your library that I cannot think of the name of right now. But I know that a lot of people use that, too. So I think Libby, it might be called.
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John Ryan
Oh, I don't know.
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Sarah Colonna
Okay.
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John Ryan
Never heard of her. I know some people weren't happy about that, but it's hard. You want to like you still have to keep up with some, like, newer books, not just only put, like older books.
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Sarah Colonna
So I'm sorry, but no, no, no. I think people are happy. They're just like, oh, it was, you know, a bummer that it wasn't out there library yet if they're doing the library. But hopefully a bunch of people can get it because you still have all of May. We don't talk about the actual subjects of the. But, you know, spoilers from the book as we do the weeks leading up, as, you know, we just sort of things that come out of the book, we turn into topics, but they won't spoil anything for you. So you got all the time and yeah, I mean, so far all of our picks have been a little bit older. So this was a new one. We just got to mix it up. But I think people are going to enjoy it. It's May. It's called Beach Vibes. I mean, hello.
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John Ryan
Right up my alley. And that's why I picked it.
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Sarah Colonna
Well, that's the whole thing we got to mix up. I haven't started it yet. I was finishing this other book called the Perfect Affair. That's first. It's taken me a while to finish, but I do like it. It's just because of our books that I have to break it up. But it's not going to be the June pick. I don't think it's what I want for June, but I'll keep it posted.
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John Ryan
Since we started this podcast, I feel like I've read less.
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Sarah Colonna
I know what you mean. Because usually.
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John Ryan
Yeah, because when I know I read the books now that we're going to cover, I read them like very thoroughly and read it once and then listen to it again. So kind of like. To listen to a book takes like eight hours. So kind of in that eight hours where I'd be normally reading, I'm listening to the same book.
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Sarah Colonna
I know what you mean, because I sometimes there was one I wanted to start, but I know it won't be a pick. And. And then I was like, but then I gotta read the pick. And so it is. It's funny. We're reading it only because we're doing so much work on the current. The books that we're reading, so. But I think I'm going to make myself do my normal thing and just read one site because we always finish the book before the month starts. Right. So I'll start. I'll read Beach Vibes before May, and then in May, I'm gonna let myself just read to something I want to read, too. I mean, I want to read Beach Vibes. You know what I mean?
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John Ryan
Yeah. No. You know what that means we need to go on a vacation. That's where we read a lot on vacation.
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Sarah Colonna
We do read a lot on vacation. We should probably do. You know, it would be fun. We need to go. We like to go to Cabo for a month. A month. John's had it. He's ready for Cabo for a month.
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John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
Know what we should do, you know, be really fun idea for the book list is, like, when we do go on a vacation and we read a bunch of books, just do quick snippets and just talk about all these books that we read and just do one special podcast. Maybe a Patreon. So we have Patreon. As most of you know, you can watch the Video of us recording, which is us, just our lovely faces talking and. But then also the main draw, I think is the, is the bonus content too. Because on the 5th, the 15th and the 25th of every month, we have bonus content exclusive to Patreon. The 5th and the 25th is just sort of random topics, sometimes book related, but nothing you'll need to be reading. But it might be about stuff that we're doing. But usually it's just us, us catching up on the nonsense in life, in our lives. And on the 15th we do a short story and that's been super fun. And we always make sure it's really short and so that it doesn't interfere with your reading. And the listeners have been giving us so many suggestions for short stories, which is making our job easier to pick them, which is helpful.
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John Ryan
You know, this made me think of that when you talk about vacation is we just got back from Chump Con in Las Vegas. In Vegas, and we used to have a listeners meetup. But like wherever we meet up, no one's allowed to talk. They just have to read and then go home. Wherever we go, yes, is the way everyone goes. We all meet up somewhere. No eye contact, no talking. We'll all read and then leave. That's kind of the world I want to live in.
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Sarah Colonna
I mean, I don't really think that that sounds that appealing to other people to, to just come meet up with us at a bar and then just read and we ignore them and they ignore us.
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John Ryan
That's what you and I do to each other every day. We go to a bar and don't really talk. It's just our life.
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Sarah Colonna
I don't think that's 100 accurate. But it's not.
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John Ryan
I know, I'm kidding.
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Sarah Colonna
No, but it would be fun to do a listeners meetup when we're in other cities.
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John Ryan
Yeah, that'd be fun. We do travel a lot.
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Sarah Colonna
We'll talk to each other.
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John Ryan
We'll let people Talk.
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Sarah Colonna
John's on one today, guys. Yeah, but yeah, so Patreon, $5 a month for that extra content and then of course join the book listeners on Facebook. And the best way to support us, that's, that's something just to be in the community and you can give out ideas and things that you're reading. It's a great little Facebook group I'm really happy with. Everyone gives good suggestions to each other and chimes in when they're can't find a book or all these things and then rate, review and subscribe is a great Way to support us to lift our profile in the old podcast groups like Spotify and Apple. So as we say, as you know, we're just going to do some. Some and some bull. Some. Talking about things that came to mind while reading the book. Without spoiling anything, John had a couple of really good ideas. I had none. I didn't have any ideas this week because I was under the weather most of the week.
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John Ryan
You were away underneath it.
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Sarah Colonna
I don't ever get sick either, so it's been kind of annoying. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I'm just tired.
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John Ryan
Even when you're sick, you're, like, not, like, laying in bed, like, sniffling and, like, you're just. You just kind of keep on going with it.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Which I've kind of done this week, too. Probably hasn't helped a lot.
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John Ryan
Maybe that. Maybe that's why it lingers longer. I don't know.
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Sarah Colonna
Well, I did work out yesterday, and I don't think I should have because then today I felt really tired.
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John Ryan
Yeah. And you slept well, today?
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Sarah Colonna
I did. I slept in. Guys.
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John Ryan
No, no shame. No shame. I'm just saying I had to wait a long time in bed for two hours. Waiting for that booty God is just like watching the clock. Is she ever gonna wake up? My God. And at one point I'm like, oh, maybe I should go work out. But then I'm like, well, then if I go down there, I have to.
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Sarah Colonna
Come back all sweaty and, oh, what a dilemma.
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John Ryan
Sitting in bed for two hours, drink coffee was a real labor of love, babe.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, just wait.
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John Ryan
But I did it for you. I did it for you.
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Sarah Colonna
Just waiting to bang your sick wife. Hopefully she feels good enough for that. And you know what? I did. So you're welcome for anyone that wanted to know about that. Okay, John, tell us what you guys. What you were thinking about.
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John Ryan
Well, I have a couple different things. What? One thing is, this Poppy kid's real creepy.
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Sarah Colonna
Yes.
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John Ryan
It really creeps me out the way she asked, like, so many questions. I think the first time that Laurel meets her, she comes and asks, like, all these, like, inappropriate questions, like, where's your husband? What's she doing? It's like, well, I'm divorced, so that's why I'm dating your dad. Like, and she's like, well, is he love? Like, asking all these questions about her, like, ex husband. And this kid's like, what, 10, 11, 12 years old, right?
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. We'll say something like.
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John Ryan
And then it was almost like when she goes back to the couch, like, her dad, like, Floyd, kind of like squeezes her knee, like, good job, honey. Like, type, like not in those words, but that kind of what it felt like to Laurel. But this kid is like homeschooled and she only hangs out with adults. And I think it's nice, like when a kid knows how to talk to adults, but I think it's creepy when they're too close to adults. Like when a 12 year old's like, my mom's my best friend, it's like, well, she shouldn't be because that's not how that relationship should work, in my opinion.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, I. So, okay, so she's nine. I was just googling it to remember the exact story. But yeah, because. And we won't talk about anything past that as far as Poppy's concerned, for those of you that haven't gotten to it yet. But yeah, she. It. It. I always thought it was weird how Floyd indulges it and you've got to indulge. It's. It's a, it's a fine line. It is good. Like, I've known several. I know people who have had kids that I was always able to talk to at a younger age, like Jacob Wolf. Josh Wolf, if you got a lot of you guys probably know. Josh Wolf, comedian, very funny. His son, I've known his son for, I mean, forever. I mean, I've known him say, you know, not since he was a toddler, but several years. And when he was like a young pre teen and teenager, he was just very easy to hang out with, easy to talk to, social. He. I always remember telling Josh, like, he's almost the one kid that you go, well, he's an exception when you say no kids, because he doesn't feel like a kid. Not, not creepy, not a little creepy like Poppy, but just very adult feeling. And I, I like that when a kid is like that when I'm talking to them. Same with like our friend Brandon and Liz. Their kids are both, you know, they can just hang and they don't, they don't make you feel like, oh God, I'm hanging out with adults today. And in turn, we don't feel like, oh God, I'm hanging out with kids today. Which is a nice feeling.
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John Ryan
Yes. But all those kids you just referred to, all very nice kids. They all had their own group of friends that are age appropriate with them. In this case, Poppy, she'd rather hang out with the adults. And she doesn't even have any, like, friends her age, which I, I used to play hockey with this Kid and he had, like. Like. I think he was, like, the youngest. He was like, definitely an oopsie. Like, you know, like mom and dad. Like, a dad was like, fucking 70, and he was, like 12. And it literally. I think he might have been older than 70. When all our dads at the time were, like, in their late 30s. This dad was, like, 70. So he had two. He had a brother and a sister at the time. Were both in their 30s. And a mom and dad, they're both in their 60s and 70s. So he, like, always just, like, went to the parents. So we going to hockey tournaments. And all the kids would be. Friday be running around, like, playing hockey in the hallways, the hotel or whatever. And he'd go into, like, the. The hospitality suite and sit with all the parents. And my mom used to think it was so creepy. She's like, we don't want to hang around with you. This little puke talking to us like, he's a freaking prime minister of Canada. You know, go, like, run around, do something like that. But when she tells her friend. When Laurel tells her friend this, she's like, oh, she'll probably grow up and, like, only have male friends. Is that what she said?
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, because she's trying to say she doesn't really fit in with the.
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John Ryan
Yeah, with. Right.
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Sarah Colonna
You know, dress like the girls. She doesn't have the same interests as the girls, so then she's going to end up with just guy friends. Which I didn't really connect what she was trying to say other than that.
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John Ryan
Yeah. It's funny, though, because I often hear people say, like, oh, like, be careful, that girl. She only has male friends. You hear that? Yeah, more like in college and university or college and high school. But you never hear, like, a guy. The guy, oh, be careful, that guy, he only hangs out with girls. You don't really hear it the other way around. And then I was like, that's sexist. But I'm like, wait, who's the sexist again? It's just like, don't trust that girl. She only hangs out with guys. Guys are trouble. You know what I mean? Like. Or is it like, oh, you're sexy. Because she can have friends with whoever she. So I was trying to figure out who was it sexist against. I think it's just sexist against everybody.
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Sarah Colonna
I think it is because it's kind of confusing because it's. As you know, I've always had a lot of guy friends, but also girlfriends. And so I think when people say, oh, she only. She only has guys friends that they're kind of that term that everyone seems to be using now. Like, they almost like, oh, she's a pick me girl. She's just wants to be cool with the guys. And then she's not, quote unquote, a girl's girl. And I don't know. I think, I think you're. You're friends with who you're friends with. And it could be probably just strange if you choose to have zero male or female influence in your life one way or the other as far as friends. Because I think everyone should have a nice mix of both just to, you know, it helps. Always helped me to have guy friends because I could be like, well, tell me what's wrong with this asshole that I've.
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John Ryan
Here's my thing is I always, like going through, like, high school, I always probably had like college. Like an equal number of like female and male friends, maybe slightly more male friends just from playing football all the time. You know, you play football every night with 75 other dudes you tend to hang out with, but always had like, equal amounts. And then when I got to pro football, when you're playing. If you're a professional athlete, maybe this is for other jobs too. I don't think so. If you're a professional athlete, it's really hard to make new friends that are female.
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Sarah Colonna
Yes.
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John Ryan
Because you don't work with females. You know, there's a few women in the office and that's like, stay away from them. You can't. You can't mix that together, even as a. On a friendship level. So it's really hard to make female friends.
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Sarah Colonna
As a pro athlete, I could see that. I mean, as a pro male athlete, of course. Because, like, if you're in a professional women's team, it's probably the opposite. Right. It's probably like hard to make male friends because. But yes, for overall, I would say for the. That makes a lot of sense because you're not really exposed to. And then any of the. Most of the women you're meeting are those bitches trying to get in your bank account.
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John Ryan
Yes. Yes. Like me, bank account and pants. Two things are trying to get into, you know, you know, women. All right.
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Sarah Colonna
When John does that creepy laugh of his. I know you guys think it's funny.
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John Ryan
I hope so. Whenever I say, whenever I think creepy, I. Oh, you mean. I thought you meant like the fans. The fans think it's funny.
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Sarah Colonna
That's what I'm saying. They think it's funny. You think it's funny. It upsets me because it's so opposite of who you are. It's so creepy. But it's also funny. But it is. Makes me laugh. That's why he does it.
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John Ryan
You know what? Later on in my career, you know how I found a good way to be friends with women? Lesbians? Yeah, I have a lot of lesbian friends.
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Sarah Colonna
You do have a lot of.
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John Ryan
Yeah. Not one of them's never tried to sleep with me. Not one of them. And vice versa.
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Sarah Colonna
That's right. You do have a lot of lesbian friends though.
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John Ryan
And also another thing I hate now that I just said it out loud is when people say you can't have a female friend without trying to sleep with them or wanting to sleep with them. Shut the fuck up. Yes, if you, if you feel that way, you probably stay away from women altogether because you're probably a creep.
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Sarah Colonna
Yes.
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John Ryan
If you don't think you can have a female friend without trying to get with her, you're a creep.
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Sarah Colonna
Yes, I agree with that. I have plenty of male friends that never tried to get with me. I don't know what that says about me, but. Just kidding. But no, but you, you. Yeah, you. Everyone should have friends they can trust and that they don't think. It's always. I think, of course, sometimes friendships start and then they build.
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John Ryan
Oh sure, absolutely.
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Sarah Colonna
But it shouldn't be that you're like, I'm incapable of having a friendship with someone of the opposite sex because I don't know how to keep it in my pants.
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John Ryan
That's why I only make out with my male friends.
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Sarah Colonna
Right? That's right. That's the, that's the arrangement that we have.
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John Ryan
Yes.
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Sarah Colonna
Stupid.
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John Ryan
But like, but like you've, you've never tried to get with Chris Franjola?
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Sarah Colonna
Oh God, no. So no, I don't mean that in negative way. It's because he's like my brother. I mean we're.
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John Ryan
He's a, he's a very attractive man. He's a good looking man. But you, you could like, like. I, I just. It bothers me when people say that. And a lot of people say that. Mostly men.
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Sarah Colonna
No, and same goes for him. He never like. I mean, we're just, we're friends. It's like we're. Yeah, I mean we're, we're truly almost. I, if we weren't. I, I'm shocked we're not blood related in some ways just because we're so. We're such good friends. Like feel like brother and sister in some ways. But I guess that's why, actually, that's opposite of being blood related in some cases. Getting along so well. But. But yeah, Poppy, it's almost. You feel a little sorry for her too. Just that she is so. She is this odd bird and you don't. And you know how hard that can be for kids her age. But she's so confident about it. She doesn't care. But there's just a little bit of you that's like. I feel like you're missing something. I feel like you're missing fun. I mean, Laurel, she wants to take her shopping and help her sort of loosen up and have some fun just so that she can. Can enjoy being her age. It's not really about being different. It's about feeling that she's kind of missing out on.
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John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
Being her age, I think, right?
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John Ryan
Yeah, totally. I think that's when I see, like, a creepy kid. Like, Poppy's a creepy kid. It's not really their fault, you know, I mean, like, someone. Someone's like, robbing them of their childhood and, you know.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
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John Ryan
I always see this with people like in their early 20s that grew up in Manhattan for some reason, people. Because, you know, I think kids that grow up in the city in Manhattan grow up different. They're pressed forward in maturity a little bit quicker.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, that's interesting.
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John Ryan
You know, this thought of a funny story about your dad about kids who, like, it's not their fault. There's a story about a little kid is like, screaming and yelling in a restaurant or something like that. And the mom takes. The kid goes, apologize to this man for screaming and yelling to your dad. And the little kid comes up and apologizes to your dad. He goes, oh, it's okay. It's not your fault, and looks at the mom and says, it's hers. That's like a classic your dad story.
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Sarah Colonna
I. Oh, I forgot about that story. I mean, it made. We were howling when he told us, that's not your fault.
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John Ryan
That's like a classic your dad story. It's not even funny.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, my dad not, you know, really didn't shy away from conflict with complete strangers if he felt like they needed something to be said to them. So I guess that's where I get it.
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John Ryan
Or.
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Sarah Colonna
No, I shy away from conflict, but.
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John Ryan
Yeah, you do.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Poppy's an interesting one, I think, when you're first. When you first get into it. And so again, we won't spoil anything for later, but you're definitely kind of rooting for Laurel to be this influence in her life. Maybe a softer Influence. Because you can't. You can't tell us, is her father pushing her too hard or is he just letting her be herself and that's it? That's it. Or is he kind of pushing her one way or the other? It's sort of like you're not. You're not positive. And then because it's from the beginning of the book, we know that. That Laurel has. Has lost a daughter when she was very young. You're kind of thinking, oh, this person can sort of step in because then she's got her relationship with her other daughter, Hannah. That doesn't seem. That seems a little strained, right?
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John Ryan
Yeah, it's interesting. It feels. Feels that way. But that little creepy kid, man, reminds me of those. Who are those kids? Other kids from the Shining, Those two twins.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. You keep thinking, is she gonna. And who knows? If you haven't gotten there yet, maybe she does. You're like, is she gonna turn out to be some. One of those kids that puts, like, spells on you and.
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John Ryan
Do you know any creepy kids like that?
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Sarah Colonna
I don't think so. I hope not.
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John Ryan
My nieces. I have, like, five niece and nephews that are like, really, really good with talking with adults because their dad's a politician. So they're used to talking to adults at a really young age. But they have, you know, they're. They're normal kids.
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Sarah Colonna
Yes. Well, I would say in that sense, you also have a. A niece who is. She was not like a poppy by any means, but she was probably the first one to be able to hang with adults. Not from. From your. From. From Erica's family. Not from Jill's. Is the politician side. But also Quinn. I feel like she was. So, you know, some kids that feel like they're just born.
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John Ryan
She's very mature.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Born a little bit ahead of their time. A little bit more mature than everyone else, really. More strict with certain things, but still fully enjoyed her time in school and was a badass athlete and all this stuff.
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John Ryan
But another topic, if you're good to move on from creepy kids.
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Sarah Colonna
Uhhuh. Sure.
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John Ryan
At one point, Laurel says that she cleans her daughter's house every. Every week and she pays her 30 pounds, which is, I don't know, like 40 bucks, I guess. Pays her 30 pounds to clean her house. She says.
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Sarah Colonna
I have no idea, by the way, how much money that was. I was just waiting for you to tell me.
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John Ryan
She said, some people might think that's a little bit different, but all families have their. Their things that are different than other People think are weird that they think are normal. So first, do you think that's weird that she's getting paid to clean her daughter's house? And do you have anything that your family or your friendship group does within them that might seem weird to other people?
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Sarah Colonna
Well, so it's funny because I don't think it's weird. It's. When you brought that up this morning as a topic, I didn't even. It didn't stand out to me. I knew that she went over there and cleaned it, which I thought just was part her feeling good and being connected and feeling like she was helping Hannah because Hannah's always so busy and never really home, blah, blah, blah. So I forgot the part that she actually paid her. I forgot about that. And so I was trying to think because in some ways, yeah, it kind of seems like if she's just doing it for herself and, and she's probably. I don't know, it's not like she's. I don't think she doesn't seem to be relying on that money, but it's more something to keep her busy and also, I think, keep her connected. Helping, like, feeling like she's helping in some way because this, this the. The thing that's torn their family apart. Some of the, you know, she's the one that has probably had the. I shouldn't say the hardest time moving on. Everyone's had a hard time moving on, but she's the one that is pro. Is more stuck. I think you get that impression. It feels like at this point in the book, that's how it feels that you're talking about. So in a way, I think it's kind of great if Hannah was just. Just went, okay, fine, if it's going to make you feel better to do it, but let me pay you. I'd have to pay someone else anyway.
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John Ryan
Yeah, that's what I kind of get too, in this situation. I've talked to a lot of people. Our good friends Shirley in Desert Palm Desert. She's saying she has like a fix it guy that comes around her place, like when she's back in Kansas, and she pays them every single time. And he's like, I'm not going to charge you to just climb up this ladder and put in a light bulb. She's like, no, I want to pay you. So then you, like, you come out and you don't think it's like a favor, like, I'm paying you for doing this for me. It's not as a favor.
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Sarah Colonna
Right.
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John Ryan
And I Think that kind of. That kind of makes sense.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And I think. I mean, take for instance, when we go out of town, one of our best friends, John, and his best friend, she comes and feeds the cats, and she's like, I don't. You guys don't have to pay me to do this. I don't mind. I don't live far away. Like, first of all, yes, we do. It's a pain in the ass to come by somebody's house, especially. But three, four days in a row, sometimes twice a day, whatever it is, depending on how guilty I feel that my cats are by themselves, even though they're all together and totally fine. But my point to her is always. I would have to pay a cat sitter, and I have paid a cat sitter. So you're just the cat sitter in this situation.
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John Ryan
We rather get. We'd rather give you the money than a stranger. Or not a stranger, but someone that, you know. We're not friends.
- [25:34]
Sarah Colonna
Yes. Yeah. I mean, it's. I think in that situation, it's weird to have someone working. It can be hard to have someone working for you. It's your friend. But I don't feel that's just a. A random thing that comes up every few weeks or sometimes a couple weekends in a row, whatever it is. And if she's available, and if she's not, then we have someone that we pay. But I think there's a lot of ways where it would feel like you're taking advantage if you don't.
- [26:02]
John Ryan
Yeah.
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Sarah Colonna
Pay somebody for something that you would have to normally pay for, and then.
- [26:07]
John Ryan
You'Re not scared to ask. You know, I mean, like, if we. If she was doing it for free, I. You know, we have to ask Leslie next month. We have to ask her four times. I'd feel I don't think I could do it.
- [26:16]
Sarah Colonna
Right.
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John Ryan
It's for us, too, so we don't have to feel guilty asking you.
- [26:21]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And it's. And if she's available and she's like, great, and it's fine. Extra cash for her if she needs it. If she doesn't, she spends it on something for herself. Whatever. Yeah, but. But with. Yeah, with Laurel. And I think that's probably a little bit of what that is. I don't remember if there was a. It doesn't say anything about who asked to pay or who came up with the number. Anything that deep. Right. It just says, I pay it. And she. I think for Laurel, it also is a way for her to kind of keep an eye On Hannah because kind of in the beginning she's like, oh, something. A cereal bowl wasn't in the sink or something like that. And she immediately wondered where she was. And because of her tragedy with her daughter, she's got this little extra glimpse into, hey, if I come clean your house, I can, I can sort of make sure you're okay on a weekly basis or whatever it is when you're.
- [27:15]
John Ryan
Talking about like working like full time for a friend. You know where you see a lot of like friendships and stuff fall apart in Hollywood la, is people that hire a friend as a personal assistant. Because a lot of people have personal assistants and they all almost never end well. Like personally seem like they roll over every two or three years. We don't have one, but a lot of people have, like, have had several. And a lot of people try to hire their friends. That never works out.
- [27:38]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, I think because it gets so tricky. Because I was even thinking before. I remember there was one time I was. I was on the road a lot and I thought about, oh, should I thought about asking a friend to do some stuff for me while I was gone all the time because I was single. And I just, I just remember thinking, no, because then first of all, I'm a, I'm. I'm a. Not rigid, but meticulous in some ways about certain things. So if something try is. Is to be done, I, And I don't do it myself, then I'm going to be annoyed by the way it was done. And I don't like that idea of, of you got to be. If you ask someone to do something for you, you just have to understand people do things differently. But on the other end of that, I think there's also just more. There's access to things and then they become so. I don't know, I've. I've heard horror stories. They like, they see too much or.
- [28:39]
John Ryan
Right.
- [28:39]
Sarah Colonna
They're spending more time with you and you have to go ahead, really have.
- [28:43]
John Ryan
To make boundaries and draw lines if that were to ever work. Because you're basically as a personal assistant, you're basically being bossed around by your boss. Right. And it's like, okay, and then do you want to go grab margs? So you have to be like. And in my life, how. Where I've had that same situation is playing football for as long as I did. By the time I got older, I was older as, as old as a lot of the coaches. One of my best friends was my coach, my strength coach. And I, he was my strength Coach in Green Bay. My strength coach for God, eight years in, In Seattle. He was one of my best friends. And we, There was times where he just had to yell at me.
- [29:17]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
- [29:17]
John Ryan
You know what I mean? Like, and we had to draw that line and make. Make sure like, those two things were separate. We're friends, but he has to be like, John, like, get your head out of your ass sometimes or what? Or whatever. Didn't happen often, but he had to do that. And I'm like, awesome, we're still going to the baseball game tonight, right? You know what I mean? Like, you. If you. And I've seen people like, like, oh, your friends and you're yelling at me like people that weren't able to draw those lines and it just, it never works unless you are able to set those boundaries and draw those lines.
- [29:43]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And I think it also depends on a personality. Right. Because for you in that situation, it's your, your strength coach. It's someone you respect. It's someone who, you know, knows what they're talking about and what they're doing. And so you respect. If he's telling you you're a. Not doing something right or not do physically, whatever, you know. Okay, I'm open to that outside feedback. Not everybody is. So. Yeah, some people aren't open to outside feedback, but I think, yeah, getting, I mean, hopefully back to the book. Hopefully. Hannah never came home and was like, mom, you left, you know, a couple of you mapped and you left streaks on the floor or something like that. Hopefully she was never saying anything like that when she was only paying her 40 bucks.
- [30:37]
John Ryan
30 pounds.
- [30:38]
Sarah Colonna
30 pounds. I think it was a one bedroom apartment. Not probably not a huge deal. Sounds like she was never there. It was probably an easy gig, honestly. Sounds kind of nice.
- [30:46]
John Ryan
You ever see that commercial on tv? It's like, we'll, We'll. We'll clean your house for the first time for 19.99. I'm like, I don't want my house clean for 19.99.
- [30:54]
Sarah Colonna
I know. I don't understand. They. I mean, they. Do they mean any house?
- [30:59]
John Ryan
I hope not. I mean, that's like, yeah, I want to pay full price, please.
- [31:05]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, I don't want.
- [31:06]
John Ryan
Yeah, they'll skip. They'll send in like 20 high school kids. I think that's what the thing is.
- [31:12]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. It's funny, I was thinking when you brought this up too, that my mom, my mom did used to pay my cousin to come clean. And she would pay her, I think, I don't know, 20, 40 bucks. Same thing. When they were out of town she would pay her to come feed the cats. And now my cousin has two kids that are both active and you know, they're that age that they're really active in sports and all that stuff. So she doesn't have time to do it anymore. And I, I don't. I think she has a friend that my mom. That, that my mom pays or like one of her kids friends or something like that that she's paying now. It's almost like finding a babysitter. You just go through referrals. But I was thinking before when my, when she used to pay my cousin to come over, I would joke with my cousin. I'm like it's gonna be the easiest job in the world because my mom cleans nonstop.
- [32:06]
John Ryan
No, she has like a cleaning routine. Like we were even there one Sunday and she's like they were just cleaning. Like are we gonna, we're gonna hang out. She's like we gotta, gotta clean. Today's the day that Eric lifts up the couch and I clean underneath it.
- [32:22]
Sarah Colonna
It's so funny because she is. And then. And she does still she hired because at one point in her life she realized it's nice to have somebody come over and clean things. But, but I'm like, but you didn't take anything off your own plate. Nothing is off your plate. You are. I mean if, if, if, if I, I won't even stay at her house anymore when I go there. And not because I don't love her so much but mostly because we're married and we're just like let's just get a hotel room. Because it just starts. I don't know. I know it's fine. But at some point you just kind of feel weird sleeping in your parents house.
- [32:59]
John Ryan
I don't know why I must always feel weird sleep in someone else's house. I hate it.
- [33:03]
Sarah Colonna
I mean this is my parents house though. Like you think I don't feel weird when I'm by myself? There was a, there was a period where my nephew was, was living with them. So yeah. That I definitely. So there was just no room. So I just. I think I just got used to staying in a hotel and I'm sure she would love for us to stay there. But I'm like, yeah, but also I know what's going to happen. The, the. The Saturday morning. I'm. If I'm. If I'm just maybe sleeping till 7:05am I'm gonna hear the vacuum hitting my door.
- [33:32]
John Ryan
Yeah.
- [33:33]
Sarah Colonna
Because it's time to get up because mom's gonna vacuum and, and listen, I love a woman. I love a routine as much as anyone else. That's, that's where I got it from. So I'm not. It's no shade. It's just funny.
- [33:45]
John Ryan
It's funny. Whenever I've gone home to Canada over the last like 20 years, I always stay in a hotel. I have my favorite hotel. I stay in the hotel all the time.
- [33:54]
Sarah Colonna
Even shout out. Hotel Sask.
- [33:56]
John Ryan
Shout out. Even though my mom has a four bedroom house. Huge house. Well, huge for Regina and someone. Last I was there, someone's like, oh, isn't John staying with you? I'm like, oh, that's so sad. Mom's like, no, it's not coming. My 1. I like the same. Like we come out, we have dinner together, then we go our separate ways and like, you know what I mean? Like we don't need to be in each other's hair the entire time you're here.
- [34:18]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And your mom has lived by herself for a long time now.
- [34:23]
John Ryan
Because I have to.
- [34:25]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And she has people. She has five. 12 grandkids. 12 grandkids. She didn't need anyone in our house. No, they're, they're always coming by. I mean she adores them. She's one of the best grandmas I've ever seen. But I'm pretty sure when everyone scoots out the door, she's like, yeah, back to my alone time. So yeah, I think my mom would like it if we stay with her. So maybe sometime we should. But also, I don't think they care that much.
- [34:57]
John Ryan
But every. We always go for dinner with them that we, we usually have a lot of people to see when we're in Arkansas. So we, we, we see them once a day. Like either lunch or dinner or what? Or with. At your Aunt Glenn's house, Uncle Glenn's house or whatever. It's like we always see them once a day for a couple hours.
- [35:13]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, my aunt and uncle always. They have kind of the bigger, more space. Cause they had three kids. So they've got a house with 1, 2, 3, 4, you know, extra bedrooms. And so everyone. That's kind of the gathering spot. Cause they just have a bigger living area and whatnot. So everyone always gathers there and he's.
- [35:30]
John Ryan
Always, he's always got beer. You're at the ready. I mean all your Arkansas people aren't ready to always have the alcohol at the ready. Well, my family, your family there are like 20 people have like one bottle of red wine. I feel like I'm a scavenger for alcohol sometimes out there. But your Uncle Glenn's always got like a fridge full.
- [35:50]
Sarah Colonna
He's always got a fridge full of beer and usually good stuff too. Yeah. And usually my cousin's husband will bring over some captain. So when we're at their house, usually there's enough. But my, my. It's funny. At my mom's house, it's. I mean, they don't. Eric will have some, you know, little old Charter every once in a while or old Charter and Coke. And my mom, she doesn't even really drink a glass of wine anymore. She used to like a glass of wine, but it just gives her a headache.
- [36:17]
John Ryan
Yeah.
- [36:17]
Sarah Colonna
And so that's. I got. I got my drinking jeans from my dad. For sure.
- [36:22]
John Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Your. Your stepdad, Eric, he likes a Mai Tai.
- [36:27]
Sarah Colonna
He does. Oh my God. It's the funny.
- [36:29]
John Ryan
It doesn't matter if you're an Italian restaurant, a Greek restaurant, a Mexican restaurant, it doesn't matter. That guy's ordering a frickin Mai Tai.
- [36:36]
Sarah Colonna
It's the funniest thing.
- [36:37]
John Ryan
It makes amazing.
- [36:38]
Sarah Colonna
It makes us laugh so hard because he's just so. He's not a big drinker. Like I said, he'll have a couple of old Charter and Cokes. If we're at a gathering or something, or when they come out to visit, we go out to dinner. He always wants us to pick a glass of wine for him. He's like, you know what I like. We'll get him a glass of wine. But one time we were out, we were somewhere where they had my, you know, where my tie was sort of nest like of dukes or something like that.
- [37:04]
John Ryan
Like a Duke's tiki bar.
- [37:06]
Sarah Colonna
Yes. Somewhere where they, like my ties made sense. So he had a Mai Tai and he was like, oh man, I love a Mai Tai. So the next time we go out to dinner, it just. I. I think it was. Was like an Italian place. Y'all got my ties. And I was like, I don't know if it's going to be that good here, but he loves it here.
- [37:23]
John Ryan
Here's something about your parents. They're not drink counters. I hate non drinkers who are drink counters. It pisses me off, you know? I mean, like, oh, you've had five beers already. I'm like, yeah, I weigh 250 pounds. I think it doesn't even tickle me yet, you know, like, calm, calm down. It was. We were in Las Vegas last weekend and I. I must have Been. We were there for four hours and I must have ordered my 10th freaking Tito's and soda. The guy's like, wow, you're really putting these back to. The bartender said that. I'm like, first of all, I feel nothing because you're the worst bartender I've ever seen in my life. You're giving like a half an ounce pores, and then you pour like 32 ounces of soda on top of it. It's like. It was like. It was like a Big Gulp with. With like, like a. Like a coating of Tito's in the bottom.
- [38:12]
Sarah Colonna
You see, at one point he was pouring the drinks because I saw that too. It wasn't even an airport pour. It was shorter than that. And this was. This was just like a night, I think when. Like the night we first got there or something at a little bar that we went to on our own. And he's pouring it in there and it's not even doing the full regular shot, probably because it's Vegas and he's just so used to everybody being out. Whatever.
- [38:35]
John Ryan
But still, $21 each.
- [38:38]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. So at one point, when I saw him do exactly what you're talking about, I go, hey, stop, stop, stop on the soda. Stop on the soda. I was like. Because he was filling it up so much. Like, you can watch big glasses is these big like tumbler cups. And I was trying in my head to make it a short by just saying, just let. If you at least put less soda in there, I'm not just going to be drinking a gallon of soda water.
- [39:05]
John Ryan
Yeah. This motherfucker. I was watching. Bartender, you need a good like four or five count for a one and a half ounce po.
- [39:11]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, it's usually like. I would do a slow one. It was. I think it was three count, but it would. If you're using the. The little. What is it called? Yeah, I should.
- [39:21]
John Ryan
The nozzle thing.
- [39:22]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. No, but the. The little thimble thing that. I can't think of the name of it right now.
- [39:26]
John Ryan
Jigger.
- [39:27]
Sarah Colonna
Yes, you. If you're using that. It. I would do like a three count usually, but I would fill that. But then, I mean, when I worked it for most. I think we all know I free poured.
- [39:37]
John Ryan
Well, this guy, I ordered a double and this guy had like. It was like maybe a four second pour. And I. I never do this ever. Go, are you sure that's a double? And he added more to it. Like, I never ever do that. But I was like, this is getting ridiculous. Oh, yeah, you're making me Do. All you're making me do is have to go to the bathroom with all this freaking soda you're putting on top of here.
- [39:58]
Sarah Colonna
All the Sodi water, all the soda water.
- [40:01]
John Ryan
I had a good story about that, too. Now I forget it, but it was. It was. It was a hell of a story, I'll tell you.
- [40:06]
Sarah Colonna
What was that?
- [40:07]
John Ryan
I don't know. It's about drinking. Drinking. Pouring. Tito's Las Vegas. Also, the drinks of the pool were $75.
- [40:18]
Sarah Colonna
Well, that was very hot.
- [40:19]
John Ryan
That was a very hot topic. It was a convention. Goers.
- [40:23]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, well. And everyone. I mean, I was like. I think because they were ordering him these giant tumblers and they basically said. I mean, I think somebody said it was basically four drinks in one. But then I just thought, but then you're in the sun and it's going to melt. It had to be.
- [40:38]
John Ryan
It was 90 degrees.
- [40:40]
Sarah Colonna
Hopefully there was an option for, like, a smaller one.
- [40:44]
John Ryan
Here's the thing that this is. I didn't bring this up to the time Jeff Lewis, he ordered a Bloody Mary.
- [40:50]
Sarah Colonna
I know a blood Mary in The.
- [40:53]
John Ryan
Sun is 90 degrees. And it's aggressive order.
- [40:56]
Sarah Colonna
It's an aggressive order. I understand wanting a Bloody Mary on your. When you're walking up to the pool, but then you get outside and it's got to be like, oh, the tomato juice and the sound. Yeah, that's when you need your watered down vodka soda instead. But we really got off track here. But you're right. My parents are not drink counters. And I appreciate about.
- [41:18]
John Ryan
I hate a drink counter.
- [41:19]
Sarah Colonna
They might do it and just not tell us. And that's fine as long as.
- [41:23]
John Ryan
Yeah. I wonder, like, if they go to bed that night, they're like, you see, John had 17 Coors lights tonight.
- [41:29]
Sarah Colonna
17.
- [41:32]
John Ryan
Got an empty leg in there or something? Hollow leg.
- [41:36]
Sarah Colonna
Hollow leg. Now, there was one more topic that you had brought up. Remind me what it was just about.
- [41:43]
John Ryan
How one of the first times Poppy comes over, Laurel is like. She has this instinct that something's off. Like, she. And she doesn't, like, she doesn't trust her gut because she keeps on going with it. But right away she's like, something's not right with these two.
- [41:57]
Sarah Colonna
Right.
- [41:58]
John Ryan
But she keeps on going with it. And it's like. You ever have any situations in your life where you, like, either trusted your gut or you knew your gut was right and you went against it?
- [42:08]
Sarah Colonna
I have to think on that one. Do you have one?
- [42:10]
John Ryan
I think for. I think for me, ME. I think when I was younger, sometimes I Got into a relationship and like this relationship, it's not going to last. It's not like, this is not, this isn't right. But I still go with it for a bit.
- [42:21]
Sarah Colonna
Right.
- [42:21]
John Ryan
But I think, I think nowadays my biggest gut decisions are based on like financial. And I've made a couple like bad financial decisions when my gut was like, don't do it. Like, this isn't good.
- [42:35]
Sarah Colonna
Ooh, do I know about them?
- [42:37]
John Ryan
Yeah. And they actually, they're both, they're both positive in terms of how I dealt with them, but they're not making me any money. I had an investment in like a baseball company. That's. I, I've loved doing it, but it's, I, it's never made a cent.
- [42:52]
Sarah Colonna
Right.
- [42:52]
John Ryan
And it's a, you know, a six figure investment. But I don't regret it, I guess. But I think, I think one thing, when I, when we were buying my grandma's house, I was like, this isn't a good investment. This isn't a good investment. And it's not a good investment. But looking back on it, I was helping out my family at the time.
- [43:09]
Sarah Colonna
Yes.
- [43:09]
John Ryan
You know, like, I, I got my family the money they, they needed right away. I paid for it in cash. And so we have this house in Canada now that we do rent out. So it's not negative, but my gut reaction is like, this isn't a good investment.
- [43:22]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Explain why we ended up buying it. So just so people understand, when I.
- [43:26]
John Ryan
Was back when I was playing football in Canada, one of my, this is 20, 21, my second last year, my, my, my nana died, passed away and she was living in a home, like a, like a, like a elderly care home at the time. But she still had the house, the house that my parents, my mom grew up in since she was almost born. It was in the family for all those. So I was like, I want to kind of keep this house in the family. I'm going to buy it, get them the money they need for the three siblings for their inheritance right away so I don't have to like mess around with that. You know, it's going to be easy because, you know, we're in a situation, we pay cash for it and so it like helped them out right away. Just kind of get that money distributed between the three of them. And we put, we put a lot of money into it and we fixed up. It's a beautiful home now we rent it out to like very good renters, but it's not the, the property market in my hometown is Relatively stagnant.
- [44:25]
Sarah Colonna
Right.
- [44:25]
John Ryan
You can have a house for a long time. It doesn't really move recently.
- [44:29]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. But at least we haven't rented out and did something good. And we. And then his sister is able to help us. Say she manages it, basically, if anything comes up. Because it's a little hard to manage a property from California in a house in Saskatchewan. From California. But. But to be clear, the baseball investment you're talking about is not the Pickles. Just so everyone. No, that investment was.
- [44:52]
John Ryan
The Portland Pickles was the greatest investment in my entire. It's funny because that I didn't, like, I didn't listen to my gut on that one because I was like, this is just. I don't. I didn't. I never thought I'd make money off it. I didn't think I'd lose money off it, but I just thought it was going to be a hobby in retirement.
- [45:07]
Sarah Colonna
Right.
- [45:07]
John Ryan
You know, we're. Me and my. Me and Alan is gonna buy this team. My business partner and become one of my really good friends. Buy this team. It's gonna be fun to, like, own a baseball team. It'd be a lot of fun, and it has been a lot of fun, but it's been a lot of work. But also it's very profitable now for us.
- [45:22]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. And it's turned into, like, a lot of work for you, but in a good. Something you love doing.
- [45:28]
John Ryan
I love it. Yeah. So that one's been the best investment I ever made.
- [45:33]
Sarah Colonna
I really can't. I'm trying to think of, like, something. And I. I know last week we talked more about the dating stuff, like green flags and red flags and stuff like that. And this is more. This is a different topic, really. But I. I'm trying to think if there's anything that I ever trusted my gut on and then just was dead wrong.
- [45:55]
John Ryan
Do you want to. Do you want to hear when I thought I should have trusted my gut this weekend when I had a 2:30 flight and then I switch it to a 3:30 flight, and then as we land. Oh, there's a. There's a. There's a Southwest airplane on the Runway as we're going to land.
- [46:12]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
- [46:13]
John Ryan
And we went, whoop. Back up over the. The city. Wrapped it back around.
- [46:17]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. It was a little. So we were. Our. Our plane was landing. Like, you could. You could look out the window and see that we were close to on the ground. And then they just did the quick back up in the air and they didn't say anything. And. No, it wasn't didn't it? He. I. He told us at the end, right? What did he say?
- [46:37]
John Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
- [46:38]
Sarah Colonna
He said somebody was already in our. In our.
- [46:41]
John Ryan
In on our run, on. On our active Runway.
- [46:44]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, it. Basically, he avoided another plane. But, you know, is. That is what we think it. He was saying and to me is.
- [46:53]
John Ryan
Like, when you're flying from Las Vegas to Burbank, like we were, you're so low that you can see the shadow of the plane on the mountain, on the hills, on the mountains. Like you're. It almost feels like you're weaving between the mountains as you're coming in. And then when you come down, you're going, like, right over houses. Like, you're not going, like, over the ocean. Like, when you come into la, you're like, right over houses. It feels like you're almost like going between hills. So you come down, then you. You zip back up, go back around. It was. It was. It was weird.
- [47:19]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah, it was. And we. There's a couple people that were, like, really freaking out, and I was internally. But I could see where you were. You thought, oh, if I would have stayed on the 231 of us. Yeah, but that was my joke. Do we need to be separate planes.
- [47:37]
John Ryan
If we go down? I want to go down together, you know?
- [47:40]
Sarah Colonna
No, but then what about the cats?
- [47:42]
John Ryan
I don't want to be a widow just because I picked the right plane. That's from your joke.
- [47:46]
Sarah Colonna
He picked my. He stole one of my lines. Guys, that's. It's. It's not exactly how it goes. Can't give my comedy away. But close. A lot of you have seen it, I'm sure. But yeah, I. It's funny because I've had that. There's been a. I. I remember a couple times I had a really bad gut feeling when you were getting on a plane. And I think even one time I told you, and I was like, I don't know. And. And. But I was totally wrong. So it turns out I was just having anxiety that day or something, so it's hard to know the difference.
- [48:16]
John Ryan
I think we talked about one. It didn't happen that long ago. And you said you were like, following my plane in the air on your app.
- [48:24]
Sarah Colonna
Yeah. I don't know.
- [48:25]
John Ryan
But something weird. Something weird did happen on that one, didn't it?
- [48:28]
Sarah Colonna
I don't think so, no. I mean, nothing anyway. But I would say in general, probably, I don't feel that there's. I've ever had some sort of overwhelming gut feeling that I ignored that ended badly or one that I went against that I can think of off the top. I know that's not that interesting, but I can hold on.
- [48:55]
John Ryan
Going back to the plane thing. My sister Jill and Andrew, her husband, were on a plane coming back from, probably from Ottawa to Regina. And halfway through they said, the landing gear is not coming out. It's 50. 50.
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Sarah Colonna
When was that?
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John Ryan
It hasn't been like maybe before you had been 10 years ago, 11 years. It might have been when we started dating. But they said like it's, it's 50. Like basically if you, if you land and there's no landing gear, you're probably gonna skid into the frickin whatever and die. Like they had to like assume the position and everything. And on the way down, my sister wrote like my other sister, like, take care of the kids, I love you. Like wrote the whole.
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Sarah Colonna
Oh, I do remember, I actually do remember this.
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John Ryan
Like a whole goodbye text. And then they get to the ground and boom, the lighting gear comes out right before landing.
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Sarah Colonna
Did the text go through?
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John Ryan
And she looked and she's like, thank the good Lord the text didn't go through. Oh, I mean, how awful that. To get that text.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Oh my God. I can't imagine. I can't. So they were together and they were just basically saying this. It might.
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John Ryan
Well, they were together. All five kids were at the, My sister's house.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah. Oh my God.
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John Ryan
On the plane.
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Sarah Colonna
50, 50.
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John Ryan
That's what they came out and said. They said 50, 50. And someone that you were with, you were the back of the plane the other day? I was at the front.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
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John Ryan
And I was watching the master. So I wasn't that like tuned into what was happening? I didn't really care that much.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah.
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John Ryan
But one of, one of your people you're with like assumed the position, right?
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Sarah Colonna
She did, yeah. It took me a minute to realize because she, I was holding her hand, I was sitting behind her and she reached back and was holding my hand because she was so freaked out. And I felt so bad even though I, I, I, I did feel like we were going to be fine. But I think just that near whether if it was a true near miss or what. We're all sort of not positive, but it felt like one. And so she, Yeah, I, and then I realized when I looked at her, she was. Cause she was like bent over, like head, like head against the sea. I don't know exactly what the position is. I guess I need to watch more.
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John Ryan
I guess I said. Because most people, like when a plane crashes, they break their neck.
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Sarah Colonna
Yeah, all right, let's not. Let's.
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John Ryan
All right, let's drop that.
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Sarah Colonna
All right. Well, we fly a lot, so let's just move on from that conversation. Well, I guess. I guess we're done here, actually.
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John Ryan
We're done.
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Sarah Colonna
A high note. We all made it. We're all fine. And, uh, and. And all the flights were fine. So thank you guys for listening. Next week will be your full review and recap of Then She Was Gone by Lisa Jewel May's book is Beach Vibes by Susan Mallory. And I will tell you on the 25th on Patreon. I'll tell you what the short story is for. We'll tell you what the short story is for may again, Patreon. $5 a month. Three times a month. You get some really fun bonus content. And we plan to start doing a few more. Just, like, videos and stuff on there, too. Just some fun extra stuff.
- [51:58]
John Ryan
Funny, wacky videos of us just hanging out.
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Sarah Colonna
Okay, well, now you're gonna ask people to unsubscribe. You're trying. You're not convincing them. Thank you guys so much, and we will talk to you next week. Can't wait.
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John Ryan
Bye.
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Sarah Colonna
The book list, the book lisp. The book list, the book lisp. The book lisp.