Jon’s Under-Where?

Summary

Summary of "Jon’s Under-Where?" Episode of The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna

Release Date: December 16, 2024

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Introduction

In the "Jon’s Under-Where?" episode of The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna, hosts Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna delve into their third week of discussing On a Quiet Street December. The episode blends a deep analysis of the book's narrative techniques with personal anecdotes, particularly focusing on themes of trust and infidelity.

Analyzing Narrative Structure

Narrative Perspectives: Sarah initiates the discussion by highlighting the book's unique narrative structure:

“All the chapters in On a Quiet Street, no matter how far you are, they start with either Paige, Georgia, and then Cora, and it's all their perspectives of the story.” [00:28]

Jon and Sarah explore the deliberate choice of using first-person and third-person narratives for different characters, pondering the author's intent behind this technique. Sarah mentions a key insight found online:

“Writing her perspective in the third person serves a purpose as dramatic irony. The readers are able to find out more than Korra and Paige do.” [05:00]

They agree that this approach adds complexity, enhances suspense, and deepens character development, particularly for Paige, whose internal struggles are less transparent to the reader.

Themes of Trust and Cheating

Cheating as a Central Theme: Transitioning from narrative structure, the hosts address the pervasive theme of infidelity in the book. Sarah notes:

“Another theme in this book is cheating. Suspect suspicion of cheating, mostly from Korra's end.” [08:08]

Jon expands on this, describing the antagonist Phineas:

“Phineas is a big old dirt bag piece of... you know.” [09:10]

They discuss how mistrust shapes the characters' relationships and drives the plot forward, emphasizing the realistic portrayal of jealousy and betrayal.

Personal Anecdotes on Infidelity

Jon's Story: Jon shares a personal experience from 2006 during an NFL lockout, recounting how his ex-girlfriend allegedly stole his belongings, including his prized Tiffany ornaments:

“She stole basically... I had like a 14-inch TV in the bathroom. She stole that.” [12:23]

Sarah's Story: Sarah reciprocates by narrating her past relationship where she caught her boyfriend cheating:

“When I was younger, I dated this guy and I went over to his place and he was in bed with another girl.” [19:06]

These stories serve to illustrate the real-life impact of the book's themes, fostering a relatable and engaging dialogue between the hosts.

Humorous Insights and Listener Engagement

Creative Ways to Catch a Cheater: Injecting humor, the duo brainstorms exaggerated methods to confront unfaithful partners:

“I would ask him how his nuts feel.” [28:02]

These lighthearted moments balance the heavier themes, adding entertainment value to the episode.

Listener Stories: Encouraging audience participation, Sarah invites listeners to share their own experiences with infidelity:

“If you have a good story about a male or female that cheated, you can leave it in the comments on Patreon or Instagram.” [39:02]

Upcoming Features and Book Recommendations

Future Book Picks: Looking ahead, Jon and Sarah tease their January selection, "Husbands of Evelyn Hugo" by Taylor Jenkins Reid, noting its popularity and high rating:

“It's one of those that you pull up on Amazon. It has 30,000 reviews or something, which is a lot.” [01:20]

They also express interest in exploring more of Sarah's psychological thrillers, encouraging listeners to broaden their reading preferences.

Patreon and Social Media: The hosts promote their Patreon page, where patrons can access video content and bonus episodes, as well as their Instagram for updates and book recommendations:

“Don't be an asshole. The moral of the day.” [42:38]

Conclusion

In this episode, Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna provide a multifaceted discussion of On a Quiet Street December, blending literary analysis with personal stories and humor. They effectively engage listeners by relating the book's themes to real-life experiences and inviting audience participation. The episode concludes with anticipatory remarks for the upcoming full review and future book selections, maintaining enthusiasm and connection with their audience.

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Notable Quotes:

• “Writing her perspective in the third person serves a purpose as dramatic irony.” – Sarah Colonna [05:00]

• “Phineas is a big old dirt bag piece of... you know.” – Jon Ryan [09:10]

• “She stole basically... I had like a 14-inch TV in the bathroom. She stole that.” – Jon Ryan [12:23]

• “If you have a good story about a male or female that cheated, you can leave it in the comments on Patreon or Instagram.” – Sarah Colonna [39:02]

• “Don't be an asshole. The moral of the day.” – Sarah Colonna [42:38]

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For more insights and detailed reviews, tune into future episodes of The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna.

Transcript

[Sarah Colonna]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[John Ryan]

And I'm John Ryan.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[John Ryan]

The Book Lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Hi, John.

[John Ryan]

Hi.

[Sarah Colonna]

Good to see you.

[John Ryan]

Good to be seen.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I woke up next to you today and you're still here.

[John Ryan]

Funny how that works out with marriage, doesn't it? It's hilarious.

[Sarah Colonna]

This is hilarious. This is week three of the On a Quiet Street December Book Lisp. And I don't know about you guys, but, I mean, I'm done with the book, so we won't give spoilers. Heads up again. We're going to talk a little bit about something that I found interesting in the book that even if you've only read one chapter or two, you would already know about. It's not anything that'll give anything away. So we'll discuss that and then our full review is next week. Um, don't forget that you can watch this video on Patreon and you can see our beautiful faces. And also, what else? Oh, at the Book Lisp on Instagram is where you can follow us. And also, we always post ahead on what we're reading the next months. And the book list Spinners is our Facebook group. The. What's the book for January? Just to remind people real quick, Seven.

[John Ryan]

Husbands of Evelyn Hugo by Taylor Jenkins Reid.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes, that's a popular one. So I didn't know anything about it, and I just started it and I'm already, like, fascinated.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's really good.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I. I know. It's a very popular book. It's one of those that you pull up on Amazon. It has 30,000 reviews or something, which is a lot. So I'm excited about that one. But right now we're on On a Quiet street. And should I just delve into the one thing that.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, this has been bothering you all last night?

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, so all the chapters in On a Quiet street, again, no matter how far you are, they start with either Paige, Georgia, and then. And Cora, and it's all their perspectives of the story. And then, you know, they all tie in together, obviously, because the story doesn't matter. But Cora and George's chapters are all written in the. In the first person, and pages are all in the third person. And I can't figure out why that would be.

[John Ryan]

I couldn't figure it out either. I mean, I. Looking online, someone says dramatic irony. I still don't Know what? That.

[Sarah Colonna]

Where did you see? I. I know. I was looking, too, to see what people had their theories about. I would like to maybe. Maybe find out from the author.

[John Ryan]

I know everyone's probably into the book enough to know that Paige's son died. That happens very early in the book. Their first chapter. So had this theory that her part was being told through Caleb. And that is completely not right. That's. I don't think so at all. But I was trying to figure out, like, why. And to add to the confusion. Sarah, you know, John.

[Sarah Colonna]

Something about you saying my name just threw me off.

[John Ryan]

Okay, Sarah. So to add to the infusion, I. As we've talked about before, I read the book, and then I listen to the audiobook, and to add to the confusion, the audiobook, pages, Pages, chapters, are read with a British accent, which is extra confusing because there's actually a British character in the story, Georgia. And so it adds to another level of the confusion a little bit to, like, why would her. To try to separate. To try to make it third person. Her whole pages are read in a British accent, which adds to the confusion.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then not. And then. Is it the same voice, though? Is it the same woman reading? I believe so. With that, I was gonna. That actually makes it even more confusing.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So. So Seraphina Nova Glass was like, listen, when you do the audiobook, slap an accent on page. Really fuck with people.

[John Ryan]

What Also it fucked with me is they go. And then they went to the pawn shop.

[Sarah Colonna]

They go, what?

[John Ryan]

Then they went to the pawn shop. I'm like, I do. This is a different wrinkle. I don't remember going to the porn shop one time. Like, this is. This is a wrinkle. And I guess it's like aud. And like, the fourth time she says pawns, I'm like, oh, the pawn shop. Oh. I was like, this is a new wrinkle that I did not see coming.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, it does sound like in it, when you say. You would say porn that way.

[John Ryan]

I have a good British accent, don't I?

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, you would say, I'm watching porn. Yeah, it sounds the same.

[John Ryan]

And there's actually a show called Pawn Stars. So be Pawn Stars.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Well, that does add to it.

[John Ryan]

They must be confused over there when they're watching Pawn Stars.

[Sarah Colonna]

Like, oh, my God. Well, I don't. Yeah, it doesn't. I. I don't understand completely or at all why it would be that way. I don't have a problem with it. It doesn't throw me off. But now that I talk about it more. Does a little bit. And I'm curious what the. It's obviously done on purpose, right? It's because the only other thing. It would make more sense. Not make more sense, but it would be more probably standard if one person's was in first person and then the other two were in third. And then we were reading the book kind of from one person's perspective. But since two are and one isn't, it's a little confusing. I. I also did what you did.

[John Ryan]

What's that now?

[Sarah Colonna]

Looked up why.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

People's reasons why this is not from the author. And maybe she'll hear about this and maybe she'll give us some insight. Seraphina, if you're listening, bonus episode. Yeah, that would be awesome. I gotta DM her. So it says. So writing her perspective in the third person serves a purpose as dramatic irony. Oh, you said that you went to the same page. I did. Because the readers are able to find out more than Korra and Paige do. Heightened suspense raises the stakes and the delicate friendship between these three. It also adds a mysterious personality to Trait. Trait to Paige's character because we don't have the same access to her thoughts as we do to Cora and George's. George's so. And it says, in a way, it further drives the point home that Paige severely lacks trust in others. I think we got that when she threw a newspaper at a child's head in chapter one.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I established that pretty quickly.

[Sarah Colonna]

And it's just so she doesn't even trust us as the reader to be fully transparent with her feelings. Whoever wrote that is very smart.

[John Ryan]

I think that person like too deep.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, but. But they might be right. I mean, they might have nailed it. They might completely understand why. Or maybe they actually got to talk to her. Who knows?

[John Ryan]

I think they probably did. But her. That response makes me feel stupid because I. I read all the time and I would not have come up with any of that ever.

[Sarah Colonna]

I wouldn't have either. I would have actually just been like, oh, the editor. Yeah, I know someone forgot to fix this.

[John Ryan]

Only explanation. Someone fucked up.

[Sarah Colonna]

But I think maybe that if. To dumb it down for myself in some ways because she. Because even though all three characters are going through something intense, especially by the end of the book, the more you learn about them. But Paige's big journey is vengeance, right? For what happened to her son. And so. But I still don't understand why that would take it out. I would almost want to hear her right in. In the first person saying so then I threw a newspaper at this kid's head, told the cops to, you know, blow me. And it's kind of. Would be kind of interesting. But I'll be honest, I didn't pick up on that right away.

[John Ryan]

I didn't either.

[Sarah Colonna]

I, I at all. It was maybe halfway through, and then I started noticing, and then I went, wait a second. And then that's when I started Googling to see if there was a reason. But I, I can't. I'm curious what other listeners think about that choice and what they're. If they have a smart reason like these people on Goodreads do.

[John Ryan]

It made me feel like I probably wasn't smart enough to host a book podcast at that point. I couldn't figure out what the was going on with that.

[Sarah Colonna]

You're smart enough to host our book.

[John Ryan]

There you go. Yes, I agree with that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Um, yeah, I thought that was interesting, and I'm curious what, what people think about that. Um, another, another theme in this book is cheating. Suspect suspicion of cheating, mostly from Korra's end. And I. She goes through great lengths to either try to figure out if he is. We learned pretty early on that she's always suspected him of cheating, but we don't know for sure if he ever did or if she's super jealous. We don't find out the details about one way or the other until later, but everyone probably draws their own conclusion pretty quick just because of the way ph.

[John Ryan]

The old Phineas is a big old dirt bag piece of. You know.

[Sarah Colonna]

Is Phineas his Christian name?

[John Ryan]

Yes, it is. It makes me even want to punch him harder.

[Sarah Colonna]

Finn. Yeah, he seems like a blowhard from pretty much the beginning. And I didn't trust him from the beginning because Cora seemed the minute they told. This is kind of early on, too, but there was a moment where she talks about a time that she accused him and she was wrong.

[John Ryan]

Well, I think he's gaslighting her so hard that I think that he actually wasn't wrong. And she just. She just, like, basically made her feel like she's crazy and it wasn't happening when it actually was right.

[Sarah Colonna]

But that's for tomorrow. That's for next week. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Getting ahead of myself.

[Sarah Colonna]

Getting ahead of your. Of yourself. Just in case people haven't finished it. We don't want to give too much away, but she is. There is an instance where she blew up at a restaurant in one of those moments that probably every man and woman fear of going in, storming in, being like, I caught you. And Then it being a business dinner at the moment that we read about it, at least. And she. I could just picture the whole scene, by the way, because it's exactly what I would do if you did something stupid, which I know you won't, But I'd come in there in my housecoat. I don't even have a housecoat, but I get one.

[John Ryan]

You get one for that?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Just to make an extra scene. Hopefully end up on TMZ or something. And they'd be like, that girl that used to be on Chelsea lately, lost her shit at Spago or wherever you take your bitches. And I would. I would cause a scene like that in my brain. I would like to. I don't think I would really ever do it, but it got me Googling stories about people.

[John Ryan]

How to kill a cheating husband.

[Sarah Colonna]

It got me Googling stories about people who discovered how their spouse or significant other was cheating. And some of them were pretty solid. But I. I didn't ever ask you, has anyone ever cheated on you?

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Who? Name them.

[John Ryan]

It was like 2006.

[Sarah Colonna]

Was it the one that stole your underwear or whatever?

[John Ryan]

No, that was another one.

[Sarah Colonna]

Go ahead and tell that story. Since I brought it up.

[John Ryan]

I. I'm not. I'm still not even sure she did, so I was.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm sure she did.

[John Ryan]

Dated a girl for like a month during the lockout and when I was playing in the NFL and I was living in Arizona.

[Sarah Colonna]

Explain what the lockout is to our nine.

[John Ryan]

Oh, it's basically when the owners lock you out because they're not happy with the collective bargaining agreement. Everyone calls it a strike. It's not a strike. A strike means the players leave. A walk up means the owners are locking you out because they're not happy with the cba.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, so we're locked.

[John Ryan]

I don't want to go into that. We were locked out. And so I was living in Arizona and I was dating this girl for like a month, a month and a half or whatever. And then when I broke up with her, she was very mad. And then I left town for like three months. When I came back, my condo had been broken into and she stole basically. She allegedly. Basically, it looked like everything that she basically get in a bag. Like. Like I had like a 14 inch TV in the bathroom. She stole that. Stole my bedding, stole my underwear, stole my Tide Pods. Those are expensive these days, too. And they were back then, too.

[Sarah Colonna]

That was back when people were eating them and stuff, too.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So they were really high on the.

[John Ryan]

Market for us Gen Z? Yeah. Gen Z's are so dumb that we have put warnings on Tide pods not to eat them and they think they're the smartest generation. We have to put warnings on Tide pods for your generation to not eat them.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, I mean someone had to bring it to someone's attention just so they look delicious.

[John Ryan]

So anyways, I went home to Arizona, had no underwear and I feel like someone stole them and it might have been my ex girlfriend.

[Sarah Colonna]

So did she have a key?

[John Ryan]

I see. There was. Not that I gave her, but I don't know, she made a copy or something. I've never given her a key, but she was a tricky little one because there was no sign of forced entry. But I mean I had a deadbolt in a lock and.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, if you had a deadbolt then she. And there was no sign of full force entry then she for sure had made a key at some point.

[John Ryan]

I believe so.

[Sarah Colonna]

This is why I can't believe those people we talked about last week gave you a key. Or maybe that was two weeks ago, I forget. But the people that gave you a key didn't even know you. Yeah, I guess that coach is lucky that you didn't go in and steal.

[John Ryan]

Well, guess who's underwear I'm wearing right now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, that. But to steal your bed sheets and your underwear I can't really put into words. I don't understand what, what do you get out of that? Is she. Is it because she's obsessed with you or is it just like I know he likes his nice underwear and this is what he spends his money on. And also I like these sheets. Or did she buy the sheets for you? No, she wasn't taking back what she felt was hers.

[John Ryan]

No, no, because I had that situation too.

[Sarah Colonna]

What did you have that with that situation?

[John Ryan]

I had an ex girlfriend take all Mike Tiffany's ornaments.

[Sarah Colonna]

What? Oh, that's how to cut him deep. By the way, if you really want to cut John deep, take any of his Christmas ornaments specifically. In our house we have one tree dedicated to just Tiffany ornaments. I don't touch it. I panic when I walk by it. I don't want to knock anything off. I don't know how the cat. Now we have three cats. I don't know what's going to happen to the Tiffany tree this year.

[John Ryan]

I've been collecting these for like 15.

[Sarah Colonna]

Years and they're maybe longer and they're all. I've never bought you a Tiffany ornament.

[John Ryan]

I just bought them for myself.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh.

[John Ryan]

Little gift I give myself every year. And there's nothing sad about that.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, it's not. But, I mean, I could. Can I get you one this year? I'm running. Running out of ideas.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And maybe some underwear to replace the ones you lost 15 years ago.

[John Ryan]

I have since replaced all said underwear several times over.

[Sarah Colonna]

Now, which one? You don't. Obviously can't name names, but you can tell me by, like, what they do or where they. Was it the one. The one in Seattle?

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

She's the one that stole your Tiffany ornaments.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Now this one, she. From what I know about her, she spent. You guys were together how long?

[John Ryan]

A year and a half, A few years maybe. I don't know.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. I mean, that's a significant amount of time.

[John Ryan]

All my. All my relationships prior to you, they always felt different in that if I date a girl for two years, I'd only spend like three or four months a year in the same city.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

You know what I mean? Like, I wasn't like, live like me in the NFL. You're away for like nine months of the year and you can be in like, another place, like three. Two and a half. Three.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

So even though I was with some people for like, two years, really, we were only together for like, seven months.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. Well, I mean, that was kind of how we started, too. Yeah, but. But then you. But I was in la, you're in Seattle, so. And I would. And I don't have like a 9 to 5, so I was able to fly up and see you. You'd come almost every weekend, almost every home game. Yeah, but. Okay, so she was in Seattle and then you guys moved in together. Right? Or she moved into your house, I should say.

[John Ryan]

I don't even want to say. She stayed at my house.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. So she didn't even officially move in.

[John Ryan]

I don't know what they mean. No, because it's not there year round, by any means.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did you bring, like, a bunch of stuff?

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, so. So she thought she moved in?

[John Ryan]

Yes, I would say. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did she also have a key to the coach's house?

[John Ryan]

I don't remember. I hope. She probably had access to it, but.

[Sarah Colonna]

I remember because my favorite thing about John's mom, other than that she's a lovely person who does a ton of charity work and is funny and has.

[John Ryan]

She's a mama bear.

[Sarah Colonna]

She's a mama bear. She's awesome. But my favorite thing about her is that she hates all of John's exes and she loves me, which is awesome. I mean, she might talk about me behind my Back. But as far as I know, she loves me and she can't stand any of your exes. And she loved to tell me how this woman would when she was staying with John. And then anytime, Barb, my. My mother in law would come over, she would say things like, oh, your house looks great, John, or this and that. And she'd be like, our house. Our house. Right.

[John Ryan]

Yep.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, she got real possessive.

[John Ryan]

This got awkward for me.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, it didn't. It's funny. Well, so tell us about her stealing the Tiffany ornaments.

[John Ryan]

I think I just. We had broken up and she goes, can I go back into the house and get my stuff? I said, go get. Have at it.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's where you. That's where you effed up. You can't say have at it.

[John Ryan]

I know, but I didn't want to be there. So I was like, this is how you access the key. Go ahead and put the key back. And then I think she helped herself to a few more things than what was. What was only hers.

[Sarah Colonna]

Including your Tiffany ornaments, which is just really the way to cut deep.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

So after you noticed Tiffany ornaments missing, I mean, did she take all of them?

[John Ryan]

I believe so, yeah. There wasn't as many at the time.

[Sarah Colonna]

So that you had to start your collection over?

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you didn't say anything?

[John Ryan]

No. I mean, I didn't want anything to do with her. No.

[Sarah Colonna]

We're different in that way.

[John Ryan]

I'd rather cut my losses than reek. Reach back out to her for six or seven hundred dollars.

[Sarah Colonna]

The stuff, not me. I'd file a police report.

[John Ryan]

Well, I guess. I mean, that would have been a better idea. I guess now looking back, it would have been pretty, like. Would have been pretty great. But that's not usually how I handle things.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, I understand. That's fine. I. I was cheated on, I think more than I believe.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I think I have. I was too.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Because I didn't catch my. The. My last ex for a lot. That was the longest relationship before you. I never caught him, but I was pretty suspicious. And. And I. And I was also gaslit. A little bit like Cora, but not. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But I did when I was younger. I don't know if I ever told you this story. When I was younger, when I was in like my 20s, I dated this guy and I went over to his. To his place and he was in bed with another girl. Like a fully soap opera style. Caught him like in bed with another girl.

[John Ryan]

What an idiot.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I mean, we were all in our 20s. It's gross no matter what. I mean, he's gross obviously for doing it, but also just whatever. I'd rather someone do that, you know, in my 20s and instead of letting me marry him and find out, I guess. But anyway, I didn't know if I ever told you that story.

[John Ryan]

No, you didn't.

[Sarah Colonna]

Dramatic. Anyway, this. There was a couple stories that caught my eye that I thought might be on theme with catching someone cheating, like Cora's out to do in this book. One of them was my buddy works at a hotel and he called me saying that my wife just checked in with another guy.

[John Ryan]

Oh boy.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean that like, how stupid do you have to be?

[John Ryan]

That's pretty stupid.

[Sarah Colonna]

If you. You obviously must know that your buddy, your friend, your husband's friend works at a hotel, right?

[John Ryan]

Yeah. You have to.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And so I just thought that was. That's a.

[John Ryan]

Well, I mean, it's already stupid to cheat on someone, of course. But if you're going to be like out there. I don't know. That's just. It's so stupid.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

Like, if you're going to cheat, at least like be somewhat good at it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Go to a different hotel than the one that your friends. When your friends work, husband's friend works at. That you're cheating on.

[John Ryan]

I first started like my hometown. There's 180000 people. But Sarah's been there many times. There's 180000 people and there's no surrounding area. And everyone that's born there dies there. I went back to my high school football reunion last year. 25 year reunion. And I was the only person had to travel for the reunion.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

So everyone.

[Sarah Colonna]

How many people was there?

[John Ryan]

28, plus about 10 coaches. So it's not a bad thing. I'm just saying that everyone that pretty much born there, 90% people, 95% people are born there, die there. So everyone knows. Even though it's 180,000. Everyone knows everyone. You hear these cheating stories. They're like so and so took whoever out, like to a restaurant. It's like you never go into a restaurant in my hometown and not know at least five people.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

And they know you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

So you hear these stories like, how stupid can you be? My brother caught a friend of his dad cheating with on his mom on a park bench right in the middle of the public park in Regina.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, really?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, like making out on a public. Like, I mean, everyone knows everyone, like how stupid can you be?

[Sarah Colonna]

And who just makes out on a park bench. When they're 50 years old and. Well, yeah, but also just trying to be discreet in any way, shape or form. You're like, yeah, let's just go outside. Maybe they thought it was winter and nobody would find them. It's very cold there.

[John Ryan]

I mean, it's very. It is very cold there, but it's a very bold move.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it is, actually. So I can't say who, but I have a family member. Distant or not. Doesn't matter.

[John Ryan]

Okay.

[Sarah Colonna]

That found. You know who it is that she found out her husband was cheating. So she busted him once because he was traveling a lot and for his job legitimately. But she. I forget how she busted him the first time that he basically had a girlfriend at this one city that he kept going to. And then they figured it out, got back together, which, whatever. If you want to figure it out and get back together, you do. You. Right. They had a baby, too. So I understand. People try to figure things out. But then she didn't trust him, and she was suspicious again. She bugged his car. Yeah. And. And this was like a while ago. This wasn't. This wasn't with new technology.

[John Ryan]

Most of the time, that's like crazy behavior. Like crazy psycho behavior. But then a situation that I'm like, do it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Because she was right. And so she caught him. She could hear all the phone conversations where he was calling her. Basically, she thought, I know that he must be calling her from the car because she doesn't live here. And she was 100% right. And this was. I mean. I mean, I consider myself a pretty good detective. If someone says to me, hey, I'm going out on a date with this guy. Not that it's that hard anymore. I'm not like you. I don't pay the dollar to. To look people up.

[John Ryan]

I pay that dollar all day.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. But I. I just do a lot of Googling. Like, remember our friends? Remember? Erica was going out with someone. This has been a while. But she was going on a date with someone who had asked her out on a dating app. And she goes, I need to kind of look him up. And within 10 minutes, I just sent her all his social media pages.

[John Ryan]

It's so easy now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And. And. And I was like, this is what he does for a living. And this is. And she was like, wait, what are you doing? I said, this is easy. This is easy shit to figure out.

[John Ryan]

But everyone should do that before they go on a blind date with someone.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I think I dug a little deeper than necessary, but it was Nice. But anyway, now it's easy. But this was probably. This is in the, in the, in the late 90s, I'd say that this happens and.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, there wasn't that technology back then.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, but you know what? She probably invented it and. Or figured it out and she.

[John Ryan]

I've heard the story of her, but I can't think of who it is. You have to tell me after.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'll tell you after. I can't say it on here.

[John Ryan]

What does it rhyme with? Joking.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, here's a. A funny one just made me laugh because it's like, only in 2020, my f. My friend found a mask he had never seen before on the balcony.

[John Ryan]

Hashtag 2020.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. So it was like, wait a minute, we have a lot of masks in this house, but I've never seen the one with a little roses on it or something.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, that'll get you. That's, that's so 2020. Makes me depressed to think about it.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. Remember how you would have to, like, wear a mask into a restaurant and then you could just take it off the minute you sat down?

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Once you sat down, you're good.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's very confusing.

[John Ryan]

Listen.

[Sarah Colonna]

I did it. I did it.

[John Ryan]

I did it.

[Sarah Colonna]

I did it. I abide by the rules. It was just a dark time.

[John Ryan]

It was a dark time.

[Sarah Colonna]

Anyway, back one says I was at work and tried to call my boyfriend, but he wasn't answering even after a few hours. So I got a horrible feeling. It stressed me out so badly for some reason that I started to cry. And my boss let me go home. The whole way home, I just kept feeling serious dread. Walked in the house, into my bedroom, and he was laying in bed naked with some chick. Basically was story I told you.

[John Ryan]

Write that one sign. Sarah C. Sarah Malona.

[Sarah Colonna]

Sarah Coconuts. Yeah, I didn't write that one. But it did happen and I didn't. I don't think I had a job at the time that happened.

[John Ryan]

Well, they always say women always know when they're being cheated on. They. I, I saw this on tv. Investigator. They said, how many times have you been hired by a woman to check on the mail? And he wasn't cheating. And they said never.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really?

[John Ryan]

Never say if they're suspecting it. It's. It's happening.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, I agree. I say I, I get. If you have a past of being cheated on that you can be a little. Can take you longer to trust.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Which is kind of Cora's story in On a Quiet street because she says when they. She says this early on, but she says when they first got together, he cheated on her with one of her friends from college. So that was why she's never really trusted him again. And to that I say again, if you want to forgive someone, forgive them. But if you're never going to be able to trust them again, if you know that they're not a trustworthy person, don't do it. Because you write. You are usually correct. I. Anytime I have thought that I've been correct and was told I was insane, and then I was like, well, maybe you should, you know, make a harder password, because I just figured out I'm not insane.

[John Ryan]

What I don't believe is people that say, once a cheater, always a cheater. I don't believe that.

[Sarah Colonna]

No. I think sometimes people are stupid when they're younger and. And they can make mistakes. So for sure, I think it's. But you can kind of tell that. I don't know. I think you can kind of know that personality.

[John Ryan]

Listen, I played pro football for 19 years. I've been around a few guys that have cheated on their wives and girlfriends. A few hundred. And you. You can always kind of. You can pick them out.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And it's not true, though, that they're all like that.

[John Ryan]

They're not all like that. They truly, truly aren't.

[Sarah Colonna]

You aren't.

[John Ryan]

Absolutely not.

[Sarah Colonna]

No. And that's the thing. I always say that you have to. You have to find the person that you can trust, unlike Cora did, and you have to be with someone that makes you so comfortable that, like. I don't even. You. I don't ever. I've never even checked one of your devices. Not that that should be.

[John Ryan]

You have the password for every device I have.

[Sarah Colonna]

I do, but I don't care.

[John Ryan]

Bored to tears.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I know. I would be just like, oh, God. You just.

[John Ryan]

I have a couple looking at more.

[Sarah Colonna]

In here, though, looking at more cowboy novels or whatever.

[John Ryan]

They're not cowboy novels.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, you know. What did you say? You have a deep. Deep what in there?

[John Ryan]

A couple nude pictures of you in here. Deep dives, saved under a couple different things.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, let's not tell people that.

[John Ryan]

Be upset about that. Maybe that's about it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, but I don't include my face ever, did I?

[John Ryan]

No. No.

[Sarah Colonna]

That also ended when we got married. I stopped sending you those.

[John Ryan]

Not when you're sleeping a thousand. Just joking. It'll take new pictures of you. You sleeping. That got weird for a second. I don't. I don't.

[Sarah Colonna]

I believe I don't, I believe you. I don't, I don't believe you anymore.

[John Ryan]

This couch is really comfortable, but it's not comfortable to sit in like naturally. I like, I'm doing like a Burt Reynolds pose all the time in order.

[Sarah Colonna]

To, it is a little Burt Reynolds. My mom loved Burt Reynolds.

[John Ryan]

She had the poster bow her bed to prove it.

[Sarah Colonna]

She had the poster above her bed. She had that one, you know, the famous, famous one, the centerfold one. She had it above her bed after my dad left her. And that was, I guess that was her like fu, here's Burt Reynolds poster.

[John Ryan]

I love your mom. That's the creepiest thing she's done.

[Sarah Colonna]

I never thought anything of it. I just was like, she likes Burt Reynolds. Reynolds, whatever. But then I remember when she met my stepdad, we, we, we took it down and walked it out ceremonially to the trash can. Got rid of it. Okay, here's another one. Oh no, this is the second half of the other of that one. Okay. Oh, this is where we talk about gaslighting. So this was the one that says she, she felt serious dread, came home, walked into the bedroom, he was laying in bed, half clothes, some naked lady. And then she says, obviously a huge blow up went down. And after everything settled this, she says, and I quote, tried to tell me that he went to the movies alone and met her there and she followed him home. Could you imagine being like, she followed me home. What was I supposed to do? Not have sex with her?

[John Ryan]

I, I, that's hilarious. But also I've heard like bad excuses before from like guys that I know. And I'm like, like, dude, you can't like cheat on your like that. And he's like the guy, one guy said, he's like, but she hit on me, right? Like it was her idea.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. So what was I supposed to do?

[John Ryan]

Basically he was like, it wasn't my idea. I'm just a man. Is what these losers always say. I'm just a man.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I mean, I think first of all, if you were really at the movie theater and some lady followed you home, you should be calling the cops, not banging her. Like, that's for sure. But I do like that someone's just like, yeah, I mean, what was I supposed to do?

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And also who follows someone home from the movie theater? Was he walking? I mean, there's a lot of holes in that story.

[John Ryan]

There really is. That's all he got though. That's all he had. When confronted situation, I would just be.

[Sarah Colonna]

Like, just take your and Go. Just, just. If you're busted red handed like that, why are you even bothering? Just.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, you just gotta own it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Just leave. Just go. All right. I'll get my stuff and get out of here. Sorry. I'm so horny that I went to the movies and couldn't resist banging some girl I saw at the matinee. This is why it's so good that you go to Jersey Boys. Because I don't have to worry about anything.

[John Ryan]

True.

[Sarah Colonna]

No girls following you home from Jersey Boys except me.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Here's another one that says a friend of mine was suspicious of her husband cheating. This is one of my favorites. So he went to play. He always went to play soccer with friends. Too often.

[John Ryan]

Too often.

[Sarah Colonna]

So she said he always came home already showered as he would sweat playing. So he would shower before he came home. One day she sewed his soccer socks together. And when he came back all showered, she saw the socks were still sewn.

[John Ryan]

That's a good one.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's new that he wasn't playing soccer at all. I mean that's a good way to bust somebody.

[John Ryan]

But didn't this also happen a similar situation in Brokeback Mountain? Didn't Michelle Williams like send like something in his. His tackle box? And then he came home and it was like not.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't remember. All I remember the movie is so.

[John Ryan]

Old now that I know.

[Sarah Colonna]

But it's so good. All I remember is Jack Nasty. But I don't remember that. I think Alex is looking it up right now to see.

[John Ryan]

I thought there was somewhere along.

[Sarah Colonna]

I. Yeah. Because she had suspicions. Is that when she gets into the Jack Nasty?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I thought so.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because she figured out that he was doing it that way.

[John Ryan]

I'll just fact checking us right now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's good. Good. That's good. Because it's. It might be true. And I could see that was such a good movie though.

[John Ryan]

It was.

[Sarah Colonna]

And especially kind of for when it came out.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

It's funny because I. I think it was supposed to be set in Wyoming.

[Sarah Colonna]

Sounds right.

[John Ryan]

And so tourism went way up in Wyoming after that. The entire movie was shot in Alberta, Canada.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh really?

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And tourism went up in Wyoming because it was pretty or just.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, because it's so pretty. Like the mountains and stuff are so pretty. Alex has an answer. Oh.

[Sarah Colonna]

Said the price tag was on his tackle. Tackle box. 5 After he bought it.

[John Ryan]

Didn't even open the thing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, there we go. Jack Nasty. That's why she said it.

[John Ryan]

There you go. She tied a note to the Fishing line. It was still there. So I was not totally wrong.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, you were totally right. I just. I don't even remember that because it was such a while ago. But that's. See, that's a good way to do it. Listen, ladies and men, if you feel someone is using is and is and it's an excuse, oh, I'm playing racquetball. But then, I don't know. The racquetballs are. I guess. That's not a good example.

[John Ryan]

No, it is rackets.

[Sarah Colonna]

The tag's not off the racket. You get him a new one for Christmas. He's so excited about it. That's how you trap them. You.

[John Ryan]

You put, like, Tiger Bomb and his jock strap. Do people still wear jock straps? I. I do put Tiger bombers. Jock stuff. And he comes home. Nothing wrong.

[Sarah Colonna]

What would Tiger Bomb do?

[John Ryan]

It would burn your nuts. Oh, Chestnut roasting.

[Sarah Colonna]

So that. So you would put it in there. And then if. And then if you came home, I would say, like, hey, how do your nuts feel? And you said, fine. Then I would know that you were. You were cheating.

[John Ryan]

You'd be out of commission for a bit.

[Sarah Colonna]

You don't wear a jock strap anymore.

[John Ryan]

That's like football. I did, right? One of the last ones. Last of the Mohicans.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, what do you mean they don't wear them anymore?

[John Ryan]

No, now they wear the compression shorts.

[Sarah Colonna]

And why did you choose to go with the jocks draft?

[John Ryan]

It was an old school thing. Like back in the 90s, everyone did. And then it just, you know, I was grandfathered in.

[Sarah Colonna]

You were like the. You like the baseball players that still like to pull their socks up?

[John Ryan]

Yep, exactly.

[Sarah Colonna]

Over the uniform. Because it's old school. It's the same thing. Okay. I didn't realize that they. Those weren't a thing anymore.

[John Ryan]

By the end of. You guys, like, what are you wearing? You wearing, like, a reverse thong or something?

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're just walking around.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah. I ain't sh.

[Sarah Colonna]

Like Mike Tyson before the fight.

[John Ryan]

Mike Tyson didn't look 58 until he turned around.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know that. That whole. His whole ass was on Netflix. I was.

[John Ryan]

That was so funny.

[Sarah Colonna]

It was funny.

[John Ryan]

And I watched it live. I was like. That was like.

[Sarah Colonna]

I feel like Netflix was probably like, whoops.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

But also, whatever. It's a live fight and he doesn't care. I mean, no, just a butt, right? It's just a fun Netflix. Yeah. How do we get on jock straps?

[John Ryan]

I. I don't know. Oh, but how to. How you'd catch someone. I'm Giving you suggestions on how to.

[Sarah Colonna]

Catch a man, but that also. Wait, so you said tourism went up in Wyoming after Brokeback Mountain, but it was shot in Alberta.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

And so it went up just because it was pretty.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Kind of like Yellowstone does.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Very beautiful scenery.

[Sarah Colonna]

Or just like a lot of gay cowboys were like, I'm gonna go find my Jack Nasty maybe. Yeah, I hope they did. I have a friend that had sex with Heath Ledger.

[John Ryan]

I know. I remember her.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I was. When at a. She met him at. I think it was La Poel. Maybe birds. One of those on bars on Franklin in Hollywood. For those of you that have no idea what I'm talking about. Anyway, he's dead, so he went. Okay, here's another story. He went to Hawaii for a business trip without his wife and kids. Like a good wife. I packed. Oh, I like this one. I packed his clothes before he left and unpacked his dirty laundry. When he returned home. I found a tiny pair of white cotton panties. No lace, no lace in his suitcase. He had recently dropped a lot of weight over. Over 100 pounds. And so he played it off that he had bought these white cotton panties for himself.

[John Ryan]

Oh my God. So this guy is so stupid. He cheated and take a souvenir of his cheating and then said he bought them for himself.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

And I dirty white panties for himself.

[Sarah Colonna]

Or the woman put panties in his suitcase. She was like when you. When your wife gets home. When you get home your wife's going to find these and then I can. We can be together. Because you seem like such a.

[John Ryan]

Such a freaking cliche to. To cheat on a business trip. I feel like that's where like most people cheat. I have a theory.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I think a lot of times when you go to like I perform a lot. Those are. I. I wouldn't consider those business trips and definitely at least for me, no interest in any romance when I'm on the road. But you do notice a lot of lobby. I like to make up my own stories about what's going on at the. At the hotel bars.

[John Ryan]

Oh yeah. Hotel bars are like great people watching for that kind of stuff.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

It's like 11 o'clock in an a loft in freaking Plano.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Goes down or wherever.

[John Ryan]

It's like you're walking. You're like.

[Sarah Colonna]

I felt very targeted at me because.

[John Ryan]

Yeah I was trying to feel the last a loft I was at. I guess it was a Dallas because those bars are always. They're the open the latest. They are a loft or a loft.

[Sarah Colonna]

A lot A loft Aloft, I think. A loft. And speaking of the road, just real quick, I should say that. When does this come out? Yeah, you can see me at Austin, in Austin, at Cap City, January 9th. And then I'll have more dates after that. But that's the first one upcoming that I can think of that I just wanted to plug.

[John Ryan]

You can see me at the Tipsy Cow between three and seven every night.

[Sarah Colonna]

And if I'm in town, I will be there with him. So anyway, okay, so he, he says he bought them for himself. They had no label and she said they were simple bikinis. So theoretically they could have been men's as well. It did sort of explain the pretty brunette that followed him off the plane at the airport and kept looking at my kids and I at the luggage carousel though. That's why she didn't believe him. She said I made sure he wore those panties every day by putting him out with his clothes up until the time that they got a divorce. I doubt he really put them on. Yeah, but I like that she was like, oh, let me just. I laid out your clothes today and then every day. Just a reminder. Yeah, until you move out. I like that.

[John Ryan]

I appreciate that as well.

[Sarah Colonna]

Have you ever worn white cotton panties?

[John Ryan]

Sure haven't. Wearing jock strap, not cotton panties.

[Sarah Colonna]

Remember when you wore those? That Speedo?

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

For the fourth of July.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah, it's. I often have joke outfits.

[Sarah Colonna]

He didn't wear it in front of anyone else.

[John Ryan]

Sarah had an ex boyfriend who showed up on a very important date after a milestone that she had and he showed up wearing a shirt that said who farted?

[Sarah Colonna]

We're going out to a fancy steak dinner after I sold so a show to NBC and he, he showed up in jeans and a T shirt that said who farted?

[John Ryan]

So on the 4th of July, we were going to meet some of her friends for the first time. So I got a who farted T shirt and a Star Spangled Banner USA Speedo. And so I came out and I go, babe, I'm ready to go. Wearing a Speedo and a who farted shirt. You almost fell over.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, it was hilarious. Hilarious. Obviously he didn't go out in that.

[John Ryan]

It was a one minute joke. I obviously took it off right away. But it was a good joke.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. John Ryan would never wear a who farted shirt in public. No, no. Dress too nice for that. All right, so those are some solid stories. You can also on our Instagram, if you have a good story about an male or female that cheated, you can leave it in the comments. You can leave it in the comments on Patreon if you're patron. Where we do. You can see the video of this. And also, like, we did a bonus the sixth wedding last month, which is the postscript to 28 summers that was exclusively on Patreon. We're figuring out some more stuff. Leave us ideas of what you'd like to see there. It's only $5 a month, so, I mean, we're not going to do a lot. Just kidding. We'll do whatever.

[John Ryan]

Less than a cup of coffee a month from Starbucks.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's true. It is less than that.

[John Ryan]

You go that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do you have any more thoughts about On a Quiet street in general that are more general before we leave and know that next week is our. Is our big full review.

[John Ryan]

Not really, but I'm pretty pumped to talk about it. I feel like we've been waiting this whole month now. And now I have a lot to get off my chest about this.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's. It's a really good book. I'm excited to maybe read more. Not maybe definitely read more by her. And if you guys have any suggestions of books that you've read by her. I've already done vacancy in room 10, like I said. And then I think she has another one coming out. There was such a Good wife. And I'm curious if you guys have read that one because I really liked that book and that could be a fun one. That's not going to be. And then I'm going to pick a new author for my next pick, which I'm still debating, but we do like when you guys leave suggestions of what you want, what you. Who your favorite authors are. I posted that I know on Patreon. And then you can do that in the book list spinners, too. I'll start a thread in there where people can leave just their favorite authors of both our genre. Genres. Genres, yeah. Anything else, babe?

[John Ryan]

I think that a lot of people said. I've heard a lot of people say, well, I'm only going to read her books. I'm only going to read your books. I only like psychological thrillers. I'm only like the romance. Whereas, like, I like the romance books. But I read this book and I loved it. I think you're going to. It opens your world a little bit more. You're going to love both of our books, I believe. And I think that my first two picks were very much New York Times bestsellers, where I think as we go on, I'm also gonna go a little bit deeper and have maybe some books that not everyone has heard of too.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I mean, we'll definitely mix it up. And I, and that's a good point. I think people, some people were like, oh, I don't think I can handle Sarah's books. And they're, I'm not doing all crazy murdery. I mean, this one has a pretty crazy twist in it, for sure, but I'm not gonna, like I said, I wasn't leading off with, like, the surgeon favorite one, but it's a little bit a serial killer who used to be a surgeon, so maybe that's a little too much. We'll see. But I, I, I think that you will discover that you like both of our genres and then if, even if you don't, then just listen to our podcast. Anyway, don't be an asshole.

[John Ryan]

Don't be an asshole.

[Sarah Colonna]

The moral of the day, Talk to you next Monday.

[John Ryan]

Bye.

[Sarah Colonna]

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