
It's Week 2 of your June Book Lisp. With no spoilers until week 4, Jon and Sarah discuss topics inspired by this month's read, “Kill for Me, Kill for You” by Steve Cavanagh. Is it riskier to visit an ATM at 2 am or keep your money in a sock? Are “blackout Wednesdays” still a thing? Sarah was in a Parade with Bill Clinton, but Jon was in a bigger Parade, plus so much more. Enjoy!
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Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.
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And I'm John Ryan.
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And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.
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The Book Lisp.
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Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Ryan. Hi, John.
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Hello. How are you?
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I'm good. It's good to see you. We are in the same house, but I did just get back from traveling for shows and immediately came in the office to record. And you're in the living room, so I missed you.
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I barely saw you. I missed you too, baby. I barely saw you.
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Yeah, I came in.
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Now we have the entire day together after this.
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We do. It's very fun. Little. I did shows in Sunnyvale. There was a few book listeners. Thank you for coming. And it's a quick flight. And then I got. And I did a Thursday, Friday. Very rare. That do I do a Thursday, Friday.
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Kind of nice, though, huh?
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Kind of really nice. Kind of loved it. I mean, I was flying back today and I'm like, it's Saturday. I had to keep reminding myself it's Saturday because I kept thinking, it's Sunday.
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I've done that like 10 times already. Keep on thinking it's Sunday. Tomorrow's gonna be a real bonus day.
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Tomorrow's gonna be a real bonus day because it's Sunday. And we have. Our friends are having a. Basically a housewarming party with what we talked. We talked about on Patreon the other day, but they're doing like a backyard barbecue where you bring foods from your childhood. So I'm bringing onion dip and little smokies. Don't worry about it. We talked about it already. But I don't want to be repetitive for those of you that are on Patreon, but it's going to be a fun day and we have to get out of the house early because our housekeeper is coming. And. And so it is. It does. It feels like tomorrow should be Monday, but it's Sunday, so I'm just. Whatever. We're working right now. We're recording. We're saying hello to the listeners. We're. We're in week two of your June book list. But while you are listening or you are either watching or not watching, you're not watching it. You're reading or listening to Kill for Me. Kill for you by Steven Steve Kavanaugh. Big pick. Big fucking pick. Sorry. Good pick. One of my. I'm very proud of this one. I. It's up there with. On a quiet street for me, with. With tied for maybe my favorite so far of my own picks. John tell. Remind them what your July pick is.
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Summer Sisters by Judy Bloom.
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How cool is that to, like, reread a Julie. A Judy Blume book for the summer with our listeners? I'm really excited because, yeah, this book is like.
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I forget. It's like it's older. Maybe 2008.
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Yeah, it's not even as old as. I mean, she's obviously written so many books, so it's not. It's not. You know, some of her books are from when I was a kid.
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Yeah, right.
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Like, I mean, I read 88. Yeah, we met her. She came on Chelsea Lately, which was.
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Oh, really?
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And 1998.
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This book was written. And it was the first book that she written that she wrote that wasn't a young adult book. It was the first, like, adult novel that she wrote.
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Oh, I didn't see. I didn't even know that. I didn't even look into it. I. Because I realized I've never read it. So. Because I read, you know, Are you there, God? It's me, Margaret. I read Freckle Juice because I had freckles. Still have them. Sometimes when I let myself in the sun, I still have them. And I love a Judy Blume book. So I think it's really cool that we are reading a Judy Blume book for the summer. So that's John's pick for July. And then if you're on Patreon, we do short stories. And that short story for June, which we do, we recap it on the 15th. Of course, it's always sitting there for you if you can't listen on the 15th or if you haven't read it by then. But they're always very short, quick reads. This one is the Roommate by Andrea Mara. And I believe it's. It looks like it's free for most people on Amazon. It's. It's free with Prime. Most of these books are always either free or 99 cents, which is nice. So that is our short story on Patreon. Patreon's $5 a month. We do. On the 5th, the 15th, and the 25th. We do episodes. Um, we're looking at adding September. More content to it. If we get more subscribers, we'll just add more content and do some more fun, silly stuff. But the 15th is always the short story. The 5th and the 25th are random. Random. Sometimes we talk about books. Sometimes we. I mean, we're always just sitting on our couch chatting. I can tell you that much and we have a good time, so. And hey, if you're in Vegas in August 3rd through the 9th, I'll be at Brad Garrett's comedy club at the MGM for that's my week long residency there. And then on September 24th through the 26th, I'm in Batavia, Illinois at the Comedy Vault, one of my favorite clubs. More dates to come. Sarahcolona.com for those John so as you guys know, we don't spoil the book or anything until week four. We don't review it to discuss it. We just kind of.
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We spoil the book on week four.
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We spoil the book on week four. We talk about the book on week four. But the weeks leading up, if you're new here, we only, we just pull kind of random topics that were inspired things that we read in the book, but that they don't ruin any storyline for you guys and we discuss them with our own stories. So John had noticed a theme in this book. There's a lot of Thanksgiving talk, correct?
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Mm.
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And what were you.
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One of the things she brings up is she talks about college students coming back home after, you know, during the break, during the Thanksgiving break. And she called it Blackout Wednesday, referring to the day before Thanksgiving where like, you know, college students come home, get fucking wrecked with their old high school friends. And she named it, I haven't heard this term before, but it's called it Blackout Wednesday. So that made me think, like, is there any dates even now? But when you were younger, there was just like an automatic drunk day, like automatic day that everyone was drinking.
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Well, it's funny that just referring back to this isn't quite your question, but just referring back to Blackout Wednesday, we never called it that. But for sure, when I was in college and then when I moved and in away and then came back every Thanksgiving to visit my family, it was a big day for the bars, right? It was, it definitely was. Like, I guess it was Blackout Wednesday, but it was a big day for the bars. Cause everyone would go out the night before Thanksgiving. Everyone's in town. So in like a town like Fayetteville, Arkansas, where it's a lot of college kids coming, you know, in town for, for the, a lot of college kids leaving town for the holiday, but a lot of people coming in town for the holiday. Right. So it kind of balanced out and it would be a big night out, like we would, you would think that would be dead around Dixon street, which is the main drag by the, by the college. Because it's a holiday night and college students are out of town. But really it was full of most of us that were coming back in town to see our families. But then when I moved to. But when I. But when I started bartending in LA and I. And I wouldn't if I. When I stopped going home for Thanksgiving and I spent Thanksgiving with my dad, which, you know, I did for many years, this favorite holiday when I started bartending, I was like, ooh, the night before Thanksgiving, we're gonna fucking crush. Like, we're gonna be so busy. Dead. Dead in Los Angeles.
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Because everyone leaves Los Angeles, everyone leaves
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because it's a transient town.
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Like, nobody's from here, no one's from here. So everyone gets. Oh, it's actually nice around like Thanksgiving, Christmas. Because it's dead around here from like, from like about the 20th of December till like January 2nd. It just like dead. Everyone left town. And same with, same with Thanksgiving. From like that Wednesday to the Monday, it's just dead. I love it.
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Dead. And maybe in our local bar, like we go. If we go to Gypsy Cow, there's probably, you know, more locals, people that can walk just like a smaller area. But when I was working at a bar on the Sunset Strip, I mean it was. I thought I was the first Thanksgiving I was ever. Because I told my dad, I remember, I go, I'm going to come debt to your house. He was living in Orange county at the time for Thanksgiving. But I was like, I got to work the Wednesday night before. This is a big night for bars. Nope, absolutely not. Just standing around with my dick in my hands like, dead, dead, dead. What about in Regina in Saskatchewan?
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It wasn't. Wasn't Thanksgiving. Because our Thanksgiving is obviously in October, right? And it's different. It's on like a Monday. So there's no. It's there. It was. Thanksgiving was never really that big a deal. But what was a really big deal was in Canada. Good Friday is like a real holiday. Nobody works on Good Friday. So the biggest bar night of the year was the Thursday before Good Friday before Easter. Ah, I think, I believe it still is. That is still like the absolute. Everyone's home, no one has to work on Friday. It's like the absolute biggest piss up of a night.
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Is it an absolute ring dang? What is it?
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Ramen? Ding dong Dan, you have a barn dinner burner type of night.
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That's something. Also we mentioned on patreon on the 5th. That or a couple days ago. But I'll, I'll remind everyone here, just so you know, because we can't say something like that and not explain it.
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But we're watching Llama ding dong Dandy.
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We were watching Traders Canada, and.
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And these are things that I say to Sarah every once in a while. I go, it's a rama llama ding dong dandy of a barn burner tonight. She's like, what the does that mean? I go, we say in Canada. No one says that, John. No one says it. And we're watching Traders Canada, and what does the guy say?
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Ramalama ding dong dandy Dandy of a bar burner. And I was like, oh, my God, he didn't make that up.
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And he said multiple times on the show, too.
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Oh, he says that a few times. He throws. And I always. I only thought of a ramble amb. A ding dong from Greece, right?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Ramble. Yeah. Was that what to say?
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Rama ding. Ding dang.
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You only do that dance.
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I do know I did. I just. I really wanted to see you do it, but I don't remember it.
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I just remember this. Dancing around a bunch of. In their black leather.
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So good. Everyone's 75 years old, playing a high school student. But anyway, I forget. You're right. Canada has obviously a different Thanksgiving. But. So you had. Okay, Good Friday. I can't think of other nights that were Big night before nights. I remember. I remember the one time, actually I was bartending that we had a surprisingly weird, very busy night. It was July 3rd.
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Yeah.
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And I was working. This is. I was working at Mirabel and. Oh my gosh, I forgot about this. I was so. I was working. I was the only bartender working. Nobody thought it was gonna be a big night. Cause it's July 3rd, people. I don't. I mean, I don't know. It's a. Again, it's a big vacation time for people. But for whatever reason, we were slammed. I am talking slammed. And when I say we, I mean me. I was the only bartender. Luckily, I was real fast. Real bitch of a bartender, but real fast. Okay, I might not be polite when I made your drinks, but you fucking got your drinks. And maybe you got a double because I poured heavy. So I like to make my money.
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Heavy hands, colona.
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Heavy hands, colona. They used to call me as the bartender. And they didn't ever call me that, but I like that. And so anyway, I was so busy, and I even remember my manager kind of trying to come back and help me a little bit and then was just like, I don't know what to do. Like this. Yeah, it's just because I know where everything, like just let me do my thing, let me be slammed and I'll get the drinks out. I made the most money I'd ever made as a bartender that night. I made, it was like $1,200 or something. Okay. For, to just for me. Right. And it was, which is crazy. That's a lot of money for one night. Clearly.
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Even now, that was probably 20 years ago and even now that's a lot of money.
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Oh yeah. Now it would still be a ton of money, but it was, it was crazy. It was like. So I don't know if I've ever told you this story. So I was, I was driving home that night and I, and I lived in Studio City at the time. So this is before I lived in my apartment in Hollywood. I lived in Studio City. Not at the place where you met me, but at an apartment before then. And I'm just saying all these fa, all these things about as if you guys know when, where I lived. I'm just, it's more, that was mostly for John I guess. But anyway, I was driving home and I had, I had all this cash and it made me so nervous. So there's a, you know that there's a drive through Wells Fargo ATM on Ventura and Studio City. You know what I'm talking about? It's over by the Grand.
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There used to be one over here but it closed down. Oh yes I do.
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This is a drive thru. There's, they have a drive thru atm.
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There used to be a driving down drive through down the street though too. The old Pavilions. But.
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Go ahead, call her, Go ahead, call her, go ahead. So I, I, so I decide I'm going to deposit my cash. This is back when you would deposit your cash in an ATM stock under your bed. Yeah, I guess you still, I guess we still do that. But I decided I didn't want to have all this cash on me. So I go up, I put it all in an envelope and, and start to deposit in the atm. And this, this woman approaches me while I'm, and It's like it's 2:30 in the morning, right? Because I'm just off work and this woman starts approaching me and, and, and she, she was asking for money and she was talking about her kids and a car breakdown and all this stuff and I was so kind of flustered and I remember thinking, okay, I made all this money tonight. I don't know, I didn't, I didn't, I, I, I didn't really know what she was doing or what the deal was. But I gave her some money. I didn't, I mean not a lot, but I gave her, I don't know, a hundred bucks, forty something. I gave, I know I gave her a few twenties because I didn't know what to do. I didn't know if it was a scam or, or something was going to happen. But at the same time I was like, I made all this money I wasn't expecting tonight. So, okay, if the point is to give a little bit of it to this woman, whether or not she's full of. I didn't know I was, I don't know if I was scared, stupid or both or if she was legit, you know what I mean? So I just handed it to her and handed some to her and then continued on. She didn't do anything. She wasn't like, she didn't scare me. She wasn't doing anything. And then I deposited my money and I left. But that was the last time I ever went through a Drive through ATM at 2:30 in the morning.
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Yeah, that I think at that point you just gotta go home with the money.
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But yeah, it was stupid. But I just, I didn't, I hadn't made that much money at once bartending before, so I didn't, I just, I had that, that was my brain of like get the money in your bank account as soon as possible. Bills, you know what I mean? Like I didn't have money at all. Okay.
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It reminds me of a story when I just said money in your sock. When I first started playing the NFL, all these opportunities come up. Like you do a radio show, you do a bar appearance and in Green Bay they're like every Tuesday, sometimes you'll do two or three. And then sometimes they give you like back in the day they'd give you like a freaking DVD player or a stereo, whatever. There's always a gift or money involved. So a lot of times you do these appearances, they give you like $600, $1,000, whatever they give. So I didn't, I was like, I don't want the government to know all this money. So I took it all and put it in a sock under my bed. And my, my brother in law came one time, he goes, what's under your bed? And it was just a sock full of like probably thousands of dollars. I go, I don't know, just a sock of money. I just put all my money in there that I earned from office. He's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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That is so how much was it?
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A few thousand dollars, I'm sure. Because it would. It'd be like. Yeah, you make. It was funny because you could make like up to six. You could make up. Once you had $600, you had to report it, I think. So a lot of places would pay you $599 for an appearance. This is like Green Bay 20 years ago.
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Yeah.
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Anyways, it was good. So second of all, cut to me
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checking John's sock drawers tonight.
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Yeah.
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Trying to get a little back, little Allowance
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back to July 3rd. Whenever. Whenever the 4th of July falls on the Monday to Thursday. July 3rd seems to be a big day. Like in the baseball world, July 3rd in the minor league baseball, where July 3rd is always a really, really big night for us. Especially if it falls on a Monday to Thursday. If the Fourth of July falls on a Monday.
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Thursday on a Monday or a Thursday.
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No, Monday to Thursday. I'm saying, like, if the Fourth of July is on a Tuesday, people still have to go to work on Wednesday on the 5th.
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Right.
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So that means the 3rd is gonna be a bigger night.
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Got it. Yes. And I think you're right. And I think it was something like that. I think it was like the third was a Thursday, so everyone was celebrating July 4th on a Friday. So they had like the whole week, you know, extra day. Is that what you're saying?
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Yes.
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Okay. Speaking of. Basically.
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Wait, hold on.
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You. You.
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You were talking tonight. Why come up with all these stories while you're talking? But I have to wait till you. You end before I interrupt?
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Okay, please, go ahead. Call her.
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Go ahead. So talking about a big drinking day in 2027, the Super bowl falls on Valentine's Day.
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Oh, does it really?
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And, you know, the next day is. The next day is a holiday. It's President's Day. Oh, so this is. I believe this. I don't know if I think this is the first time ever where the day after the super bowl is a holiday, which it should always be on that weekend, forever going forward, because NFL always wins. No matter what the NFL does, they always win. And this is proof. They pushed back the season a week, and now everything ends on President's. The day before President's Day. So ever it's going to be so many people calling the work sick that at the super bowl, anyways, it's like the most perfect storm ever. But also, the super bowl has never fallen on Valentine's Day, which is going to be. It's going to be really shitty for restaurants because restaurants usually crush it On Valentine's Day. And now that's taken away from them.
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Oh, yeah, I didn't think about that part because. So you're right, because we were talking about this when we went to the super bowl this year.
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Yeah.
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We were like, next week is President's Day on the Monday. How are they not. How have they not figured out yet to just have it.
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Have it on that, that.
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So that. And then John was like, well, they did figure it out. They're doing it next year. They ain't no stupid right. In the NFL they make as much. They'll just keep making their money.
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But this is going to crush the restaurant. People don't go to restaurants or bars on Super Bowl Sunday. Super Bowl Sunday is a very home type party.
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Yeah.
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Every other Sunday of the year. Every other Sunday of the football season, everyone goes to the bar. Not everyone go to the bar. But Super Bowl Sunday is a very home party thing.
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Yeah.
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Restaurant restaurants eat shit on Super Bowl Sunday.
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Even for, for sports bars. I mean, some probably have. Have. Some probably do okay. Or some probably have figured out how to get people in and some, and some people don't have a party to go to and they go. There's some bars I know that are an exception that get good business on there on Super Bowl Sunday. But like even our local one that we always go to, they're like, eh, we get people in, but it's not like our. They're more busy on the regular Sundays during football season. But you're so right about Valentine's Day because that is, I mean, again, that was another one. When I was bartending, I would be like, please let me work. I, I want to work. I always wanted to work on Valentine's Day as a standup. I always want to work. If, if Valentine's Day falls on a weekend, I'm. If it's on a Friday or Saturday, I want to, I want to do standup because people love to go out for that. It's like it, it's. You get your own fans, but then you get also just people that are like, the, the comedy club will be extra packed and you'll make more money just because people are like, I don't know, I'm gonna go to a comedy club. People want to go in groups. People want to go with their boyfriend or girlfriend. People want to go single, whatever. So not on a Sunday, but on the weekend of. But sad. That sucks. For, for bars.
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I wonder, I wonder if that Saturday night is going to be a big night for the, for the restaurants. Like the 13th. I feel like the 12th, the 13th will, I think, be big nights for the restaurants. I think people be like, obviously we're not going to have our Valentine's dinner tomorrow on the 14th during Super Bowl Sunday, so we should do it tonight on Saturday or Friday. So I think probably the 12th and the 13th. They'll probably make it up.
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Yeah, no, they will. It'll be. Yeah, it'll happen then instead. So they'll get. You're right. They'll get their money. It'll just like they won't have their, their night of. But it'll be the same. People still go. People are still going to do their thing. I mean, Valentine's Day. I mean, we don't really go out on Valentine's Day because it's for. In, in our opinion. It's just like, what the. What's the point? It's like harder to get a reservation. They charge more, they try to have these set menus. It's just like the biggest, the biggest
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annoyance of Valentine's Day is you go to the same restaurant, you have a smaller menu, a larger bill, and they try to kick you out of there in 90 minutes. Yeah, you know, like, I, like, I'd rather just go on the 15th.
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Yeah, well, because we had a very romantic Valentine's Day last year with your mom. Remember, she was in town and we went to Da Barbara, which is a wonderful Italian restaurant here. Amazing restaurant in Los Angeles, if you've never been. Definitely go. Our friend Doug Buten turned us on to it and now it's just like, it's so good. Homemade Italian. Barbara. The chef is always there. It's. It's. There's only like eight tables in the whole place.
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I don't know if there's even. I think it's like five or six tables. It's very, very small. Like there might be room for like 12 people in the whole restaurant. It's amazing.
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And it's a byob, so you bring your own bottles of wine and. Cause they don't have a bar. And then we went with his mom. We probably talked about this last year when it happened, but we brought John's mom. But it was our first time there and they did have like the set menu and a 90 minute thing. So we didn't get to have the experience that we wanted. I mean, we had such a great time and great food, but we didn't get to like, experience to Barbara itself the way it normally is. So we have gone back since then and. Amazing. I was thinking or it's off topic. I was thinking the other day when my mom was texting me that she's coming to visit in September, her and my stepdad. I. There was a little. There's always this weird thing that happens. Now we're just having couples counseling over podcast. There's this weird thing that happens where I panic. Oh, do my parents. Are they visiting? And your mom didn't. And so I forgot that your mom was here last February. So that's good. Wasn't that long ago.
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Yeah. And we've also. We've invited her back.
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Yes.
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But I'm just gonna. This isn't political. I'm just gonna be honest. Canadians don't want a lot to do with your country right now. I'll just be honest. So most Canadians will not come to the US Right now.
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Okay, well, my mom's coming from Arkansas and they're.
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Well, she's already here. She's already here.
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They're excited. They're coming for. Four days.
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9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, five nights.
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Yes, they're coming. They fly. Yeah. They get in on like September 9th, and they're leaving on the morning of the 14th. And we're gonna have a brunch. It's gonna be NFL week, kickoff week. Speaking of. And my mom gets to see all her friends, as she calls it, all her buddies. She's made friends with all my friends, and she's like, I want to see my friends. Anyway, off topic. I don't know why I brought that up, but that'll be a big drinking Wednesday for me. So my mom coming in town, and
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it's also the Seahawks opening game on that Wednesday.
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I know, I know. I already told her. I said, you guys are landing at 5:30. When you get to our house, the. It'll probably be halftime. Game's going to be on. It is what it is. And she said, Eric's excited about that. He's excited. So. Okay, back to topics from the book.
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So you were gonna say something before I interrupted you. What I wanted to tell my story is you were gonna say something about baseball.
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Oh. Because a little off topic, too, but I was sitting at the airport two hours ago in San Jose, California.
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Because literally two hours ago.
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Two hours ago. And I was sitting at the airport bar, like, right by my gate, and this guy was like three seats down from me. I couldn't quite hear what he was saying. But the bartender, who obviously lives in San Jose and works at the airport, he goes, oh, do you go to. You go to Pickles games? And the Guy was like, yeah. And he goes, yeah, I heard it's a party. I heard it's a party. And he's like, great baseball and a party. And the guy was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. And then I was. And then I thought, did I mishear that? Did I hear that right? So. Because he's in San Jose. So I just was surprised. And so. So then he walks over by me and I was closing out my bill and I said, I'm sorry, can I. Did you just. Were you talking about the Portland Pickles? And he said, yes. And I go, my husband owns that team. And then the guy that was two seats down, I caught on pretty quickly, was a guy that was like, just only interested in hearing himself talk because I said that. And it like, he's like, what? Yeah, I live in Portland. And I go, oh, no, you said you went to Pickles games. And my husband owns the team. And he's like, yeah, the Pickles. I was like, okay, nevermind. But the guy behind the bar was so excited.
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Okay.
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So excited. I mean, I wasn't trying to impress anyone. I just thought it was so interesting that I'm sitting at this random bar at San Jose Airport and that. That he's talking about it. So the. Yeah, the bartender was like, that's so cool. And then he said, and. And then. And then the other guy finally caught on and he goes, oh, I. I guess I haven't been to a Pickles game. So then I think the bartender was confused too. He's like, wasn't I just asking you this? So. So he's like, where do they play? And I said, walker Stadium. And he's like, I don't know where that is. And I go, okay. And then. But the bartender was real excited. Real excited. So word has spread about the Portland Pickles.
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Yeah, it's good. Well, it helped last year. I mean, you know this already, but released our documentary. It was really fun. Documentary. Pickles, Pickles, Pickles. It was on the MLB Network. It's also available on YouTube or something. But that kind of got like more national attention, international attention. And it's just, I think sometimes Alan and I, we've on the team for over 10 years now, and I think sometimes we have so much fun with it that people don't take the baseball on the field seriously. Like, they almost think we're the Savannah Bananas, which is like absolute, like good baseball players just like bullshit on the field. And we actually like, the baseball on the field is like the best amateur baseball in the world. Like we have last year, I think we had five players drafted off our team. We had like 70 players from our league drafted to the Major league base to Major League Baseball, which is insane. So it's something. It's really, really good baseball. I think that some people don't take it as seriously with us because of all the. All the. All the tomfoolery we have around it.
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Which is exactly why when I texted you, I wanted you to know that the guy said, I heard they have a really great party, but then it's also great baseball.
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I thought, that is good to hear.
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Bang bang, buddy. Bang bang. Okay, now, so Black Out Wednesday clearly is named that because of Black Friday. Is the Friday.
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Oh, okay.
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Right. Yeah, I just put that together myself. We're pretty. We're not always the smartest.
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You know, they call it Black Friday now because that's. That was traditionally the day that retail stores go into the black. From the red to the black. It's usually when you start to turn a profit. In the retail world, the last five weeks of the year is when you start to turn a profit.
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Oh, really?
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It's got a big shopping day because that's when retail goes profitable for the rest of the year.
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Well, I know it's a big shopping day, but I didn't realize that most retail stores are in the red up until then.
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Yeah, just. Just battle it out for 11 months, then one month of profit.
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One day of profit. Yeah, one month. I know. Because then it goes from now it's Black Friday and then it's Small Business Saturday, and then it's Cyber Monday and of course, all this leading up to Christmas. But I gotta tell you, I know that it's not November, but since this is just part. Some topics in the book, a lot of Thanksgiving talk and parade talk and all that, which we'll get to parade talk too. I. I can confidently say I have never been to a store on Black Friday.
B
I have.
A
You. You have what one? Which one?
B
When. When I lived in Seattle at very early days when I lived in a condo in downtown Bellevue, which you could take like the sky bridge, literally. You. We had to go outside, but you never had to walk on the street. You take the sky bridge across to the Bellevue Square Shopping center or whatever, and it was like the first time I'd lived in a big US City on Black Friday. And I went and walked around the mall to see what was it all about.
A
Did you get punched in the face?
B
No, no, no. This was like. That's like a pretty, like High end mall. So there wasn't like people weren't letting.
A
It doesn't matter. Money can't buy a class girl. Not on Black Friday.
B
I'm saying this, this wasn't like a $5 TV at Walmart or a $10 blender at Target. This was like 10% off Gucci. So it wasn't like craziness. But I just wanted to see what it was all about. And I was like, oh, it just, it seemed like pretty, pretty like normal. It didn't really seem like that big a thing.
A
Did you buy?
B
I did not. I think I walked around the mall, probably grabbed an Orange Julius and a wiener on a stick and went right back to my condo.
A
Oh, I know.
B
Maybe a Wetzel Pretzel.
A
I know which mall you're talking about. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's a nice mall. I don't like. I, I mean, I can't take malls for the most part. I can't either. I, I remember I used to go to the Beverly center, that was a big mall here and, and they had a bar. I liked that.
B
But I like a bar in a mall.
A
I know. I, I'd never seen that before. We didn't have that at the North Arkansas Mall. But yeah, this wasn't just like a restaurant that had a bar in it that was attached to the mall. This was a bar in the middle of the mall. Just a center, just a bar. I was like, why isn't everyone do this? But I don't like a mall. I. Once in a while I go to the Sherman Oaks, the Galleria, which is by us because they got a Bloomingdale's and it's.
B
No, that's not the Galleria. That's the Westfield Mall.
A
Right, sorry, the Westfield Mall.
B
The Galleria has like a Regal Cinema and DSW shoes and that's it. Massage place. Yeah.
A
Sherman Oaks Galleria used to be, I guess a mall, but now it's just. I mean there's not really shops. There's like hardly anything there but the movie theater. But the Westfield Shopping Mall, John's correct. But you can get like when I have to go there, there's an Apple store. I have to, I've had to go there like a couple times before. John told me that you could taught me that you could ship your phone back and never have to go to the Apple store. But I would, I pull up, there's a. It's easier. It's like. It's not a parking structure. It's a parking lot. So for the most part you can park right outside the Bloomingdales and then get yourself right into the Bloomingdales and
B
get very la, where you can just pull up, valet your car and freaking run in. They have your car right back waiting for you when you come out.
A
Also that. But I don't, I, I never have done that. I don't think I've ever even done that because there's always just park.
B
I have.
A
Okay, okay.
B
When I, When I go to places like the mall or here's the big one, Costco. I go to Costco once a year and I have to have like a plan and a Xanax, so I gotta go in there with a plan. But then I figure out, last time I have an executive membership for the one time of year that I go to Costco. You can go at 8 o' clock when the rest of the store, everyone else can go at nine. So I realized that for the first time, last time, where you go at 8 o' clock and there's like five people in the whole place. And now I'll, I'll never go back. I'll never go back because I have like the parking lot's nightmare. I always have. Like, as soon as you pull in the parking lot, just park in the very first, most farthest away spot. Get your car, go cart, go around the outside edges of the store. Get everything you need to go, go right up to the till and get the out. Like, I have it, like strategically planned in my head. I have to psych myself up for days. And then I see people like, like my brother who goes to fucking Costco every Saturday just for the free. You know, what do they call them?
A
Samples.
B
Samples.
A
He does.
B
He would.
A
And didn't they cut back on those?
B
I hope so.
A
Didn't I read somewhere that they've cut back on those because of freeloaders like your brother?
B
It's already so awful trying to get your cart up and down those aisles. Then the end of every aisle, there's 20 people trying to get a fricking half an olive on a cracker. Okay, Just, just, just go home and have your cracker and olive.
A
Yeah. You know who also used to do samples? Trader Joe's. They used to do samples. I don't think they do anymore.
B
Nightmare.
A
Oh, my God. I don't know what it is. And now I'm going to sound like a, like a bad standup bit, but I don't. What's the deal with Trader Joe's parking lots? I. I don't know. I do wonder. And I want the listeners to chime in when I post this this episode on the in the book listeners, by the way, Facebook group, which you can join or follow us on the book list on Instagram or both. But. Comments. Is, Are, are the Trader Joe's parking lots as univers, are they universally bad or is it just Los Angeles? Because for whatever reason in California, I mean, well, specifically Los Angeles, like it is, I don't know, they, I don't know if they just bought the, the thing and then didn't realize that the parking lot was going to be too small for it. Is that what it is?
B
Every single parking lot is one way, one way in, one way out. So it's basically a horseshoe, every single one of them. So you go, someone sees someone walking with the car, they stop their car, they wait for that person to go to their car, unload their car, take their cart back in the meantime. Now there's eight cars behind them.
A
Yeah, pouring.
B
And so that guy goes in parks, then it happens to the next guy, does it. And they have, they have like, they have like, they actually have like security guards in these parking lots now because people want to fucking fight each other because it's such a nightmare. But it's, it's Whole Foods is a lot like that here too. And also Seattle was the exact same way. It was a nightmare at the Trader Joe's and the Whole Foods. It was one way in, one way out.
A
But you go to any other, I go to Pavilions, I go to Ralph's, I go to Gelson's. It's not like that. So it's just, it seems like a specifically geared specific Trader Joe's problem where they go, we're just going to build the worst parking lots in the world. We're going to have our locations where there's the worst parking lot in the world and just every man for themselves. And then of course, you get to your point, people are waiting. And then you get someone who's never backed out of a parking space for forever, never once in their life, first time ever backing out of a parking space. Takes 45 minutes to do a 47 point turn to back up, break, back up, break, back up, break, back up. And you're sitting back there, get the out of the parking spot.
B
Here's what's worse, and it happens in LA all the time. You are pulling out of a parking spot, you know that there's 12 people behind you waiting for you. You get into your car, after you unload it, you see 12 cars behind you. You get on your phone, oh, did. Did Ted text me today? Oh, what's Ted doing? And they sit in their car and they take a call. It's like, what. What world do you live in?
A
You know that I roll down my window and stick my head out and stare. You know that? I do that. I know this is me.
B
It's like, whoever. It's like, if I want to design a pavilion, I'm gonna design a Ralph's. I'm going to design a Gelson's. The people in the boardroom are like, okay, we're going to design this huge grocery store. How many. How many parking stalls? Oh, we probably need, like 100, maybe 200 parking stalls. Then Trader Joe's in their boardroom. They're like, I don't know, 10 or 12. Whatever, just fucking go with it. I don't know.
A
Eight.
B
Just whatever.
A
Usually, like, eight places for people, right?
B
Everyone's going to walk here.
A
This is me, babe. When someone's doing that foreign john, my head coming out of the window. I know you guys can't see it. I forgot you guys can't see it. But, yeah, Wrap it up, people. Pull out of your parking spot. Be aware. Situational awareness. Did you see that video the other day that a cop was following? He was going down the street, and there was a guy walking his dog, and. And the guy was just walking down the middle of the street. I think it was in, like, I want to see North Carolina. I don't know why I might. I'm totally probably making that up. It doesn't matter where it was. It was just funny. But this cop's trying to go down a street, and it was. It looked like it was kind of a. Maybe a popular sort of like, hiking walking area, but still, the guy was in the middle of the street with his dog, and this cop is right behind him, following slowly. And the dogs try to get out of the way, but the guy's just walking. No clue. No fucking clue, right? And the cop comes over the. The. His loudspeaker, and he goes, your dog has more situal, situational awareness than you do right now. And the guy still doesn't catch on. And then he says it again. The dog has more situation. Situational awareness than you do right now. And then finally, the guy looks up and goes, oh. And walks over to the side. And then the cop goes, good boy. And I thought it was really funny. Was it good on him? I wish I could. I need. I need a megaphone. Can you imagine? Oh.
B
Oh, God.
A
Can you imagine if I got to have a megaphone like that, like the, like the police do. I mean, that man's allowed in an airport. In an airport, just everywhere.
B
I know, but especially in the airport. You'd be a real, real nightmare power trip.
A
I. I know, but he was. I. This guy handled it great. It was so funny. This cop. I mean, give me that power. I wouldn't. It wouldn't be so funny. These people leave crying.
B
I'd love. I'd laugh.
A
I know, but it was very funny. Anyway, what else do you got there, John?
B
Well, I was going to talk. Well, we've already kind of talked about Thanksgiving, but I was going to talk about. They talk about the, like the Macy's Day parade. They're in New York. Saw the parades. I wanted your opinion on parades. Are they the most overrated event in the world?
A
That feels like a leading question, your honor. Well, no, I'm just like.
B
I know they have like the Macy's Day parade, all these like huge parades you see on tv.
A
But.
B
But have you ever, like, if you grew up in Regina, Saskatchewan, and you go to the parade, it's like the Shriners walk out with their little miniature cars, then behind them is like the Regina Twirling society. What's that called? Baton Twirling society. Then there's like four horses, then some cops, and then like Santa Claus waving goodbye. It's like, wow, we came out of our houses lined up for this fucking five float parade in the.
A
And Anna Regina, it's so cold.
B
So.
A
So I don't. I honestly. And my mom's gonna have to tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't really remember going to parades as a kid. I don't really. Yeah, I don't really remember parades being a thing. I mean, I know that we watched sometimes Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade on tv. It was never really a tradition in our house. I mean, I think one of the. One of the. One of the. I don't. I mean, I'm sure I've been to some parades before. I definitely. I. I was in a parade, by the way. Oh, yeah, I was in a parade as a drill team member with President Bill Clinton.
B
No way.
A
That's right. Yes, I was. Well, he was the governor at the time, but when he was the governor of the state of Arkansas, he was in a. I don't remember really. I, I honestly, I don't remember details. I just know I was in a parade and the. Bill Clinton was there and it was because, I guess a bunch of high schools or junior highs. Whatever I was in at the time. I guess we all marched in a big state parade.
B
Did you meet him?
A
No, but he was there.
B
That have been cool.
A
It was a lot of schools, so I guess he didn't get to say to hi to all of us. But I was marching around with my spirit stick and my pom poms and he was there. Not much. I know.
B
I always remember like on Easter morning and Christmas morning, we always put on the Disney Disney parade at our household. But I would seem like a fake parade. There's always like people singing and.
A
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm still stuck on this Clinton thing. I'm trying to remember. I have to ask my mom like, because it must have been some kind of thing. There were, you know, they asked schools to be in parades. Yeah, yeah. Like cheerleaders and drill team. That is. Anyway. Okay, well, I was in one of
B
the biggest parades ever, babe.
A
I was in the catacombs. You were okay.
B
And I was like, I'm not really into parades. And it was, you know, kind of whatever. But when you're up on the flow and all you can see is people. Like it was, it was supposed, supposed to be like, I think a 45 minute parade. And it was like a three hour parade because, because the streets were so lined with people that there was just barely enough to get like the, we were on like military vehicles. Barely enough to get our vehicles down the middle of the road.
A
That's crazy.
B
It was great. And then whenever you came to an intersection, you look up the street and all the way up there, like all the way to the next block, it was just packed with people. Thousands of thousands of people, every single intersection. And it was like that for three hour drive. It was insanity. I, I, it was a pretty cool experience.
A
I bet. Yeah, I, I wasn't there. We were talking at the time, but we weren't together yet. So I, but I. Do you have a bunch of photos? Maybe I can post some of those on in our stories on the book list. It was on the day this, we
B
had just, we had just started talking for like, we'd been talking for like 10 days by then, I guess. And I was try, I was trying to text you during the parade and there was so many people in there that I couldn't even get a text message out.
A
Oh.
B
Like they basically said like, if someone has an emergency, because there was, I forget what the number. I'm gonna, I don't know if I'm gonna exaggerate the Number. It's like a million or 2 million people. Something like insane. And then we got to the stadium and there was another 50, 000 people in the stadium waiting for us. It was just. It was crazy. But they said if there was any kind of like medical emergency that like EMS was just. There's nothing they could do. Like they couldn't get there.
A
So how. So that I had a question about that because how does that work? So the parade, I know goes and then it ends at the stadium. And a certain amount of people are allowed in. Do they buy tickets? Like, how does that work?
B
I think it was open. It was just open. So you either stand in the parade.
A
Kind of.
B
We started at the Space Needle, you know, that is. And I went to the stadium was like where we ended. And so there's people along the route. And then just. I think it was like free people were in the stadium.
A
Okay.
B
When we went up on stage and a couple people talked, it was pretty quick. But it was. It was also like the coldest day in the history of Seattle. I swear to God. It was like 34 degrees, which was. Is abnormal for Seattle for. Not that it's balmy, but it's usually like mid-40s, high-40s.
A
But is there any following you around that parade? Some hoes trying to get a pcu.
B
No hoes from different area codes.
A
Okay. We're gonna end on a parade note. We went to a parade. The Bellevue Christmas Parade is fun.
B
Oh, that's pretty cool. It's not really a parade. It's like a Candy Cane Lane or whatever they call it.
A
Oh, right. But they. Yeah, I guess I thought it was. But it's kind of a parade.
B
Yeah, you kind of. You kind of.
A
Yeah, it's called Candy Cane Lane. But it's the Candy Cane Lane Parade, isn't it?
B
Yeah, they have like performers and they kind of walk around. It's like a 15 minute thing. Every night they do it the part of the Bellevue collection. And then they have the very edit snows.
A
Yeah. If you're ever in Bellevue. Around Bellevue, Washington, around Christmas. Candy Cane Lane's a real good time.
B
Thanksgiving to January 1st every year.
A
John's the grand marshal. But not really.
B
I used to go all the. When I lived down there. I used to live like two blocks from there. Give me a break.
A
Oh, you must have been there every night. Just.
B
That was the.
A
Yeah, I was thinking it was just loving the fake snow. Like a. Like a dog, your face up, probably wagging your tail. Okay, guys, thank you so much. For listening. Random as always. We will see you next week. If we don't see you on Patreon for the short story story, which is on the 15th. Well, that's before then, but you have Andrea Mara's the roommate is your Patreon short story. Summer Sisters by Judy Blume is your July book. We are currently reading Kill for Me, Kill for your by Steve Kavanaugh, one of Sarah Colonna's best picks so far. Can't wait to discuss it with you the last week of this month. But no spoilers until then. We will see you next week.
B
Bye.
A
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The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna Episode: No Rain on Jon’s Parade Date: June 8, 2026
In this week’s episode, Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna, the married hosts of The Book Lisp, return with their signature banter for the June book club pick, "Kill For Me, Kill For You" by Steve Cavanagh. As with their format, they steer clear of spoilers until week four, instead riffing on life stories and topics inspired by the book. This episode’s major themes revolve around holiday traditions—specifically, notorious party nights in the U.S. and Canada—money mishaps, Black Friday madness, the ultimate chaos of Trader Joe's parking lots, and the strange universal phenomena of parades. Listeners get a heartfelt and funny slice of life, all woven together with timely book news and updates on upcoming episodes and Patreon content.
June Book: Kill For Me, Kill For You by Steve Cavanagh
July Book (Jon’s Pick): Summer Sisters by Judy Blume
“It’s up there with On a Quiet Street for me, tied for maybe my favorite so far of my own picks.” —Sarah (01:06)
“It was the first book that she wrote that wasn’t a young adult book. It was the first, like, adult novel.” —Jon (03:16)
Patreon Update:
Show Dates:
Inspiration:
A recurring theme in the June book is Thanksgiving, sparking Jon’s question on big “automatic drunk” holidays.
“We never called it that…but for sure, when I was in college…and then came back every Thanksgiving…it was a big day for the bars, right?” —Sarah (06:27)
“I thought…the night before Thanksgiving we’re gonna fuckin’ crush. Like, we’re gonna be so busy. Dead. Dead in Los Angeles." —Sarah (07:55)
"No one’s from here. So everyone gets... It’s actually nice around Thanksgiving, Christmas. Just dead." —Jon (07:58)
"The biggest bar night…Thursday before Good Friday…everyone has to work on Friday. It’s like the absolute biggest piss up of a night.” —Jon (08:51)
“These are things I say to Sarah… She’s like, what the fuck does that mean?…And then some guy on Traitors Canada says, ‘ramalama ding dong dandy!’” —Jon (09:41)
Sarah’s wild July 3rd bartending haul (“Heavy Hands Colonna”) and awkward ATM encounter:
“I made the most money I’d ever made as a bartender that night…like $1,200…So I decided I didn’t want to have all this cash on me.” —Sarah (12:50, 13:43) “That was the last time I ever went through a Drive through ATM at 2:30 in the morning.” —Sarah (15:27)
Jon’s NFL days “sock full of money” trick to avoid taxes:
“It was just a sock full of thousands of dollars...I just put all my money in there...” —Jon (16:35)
“In 2027, the Super Bowl falls on Valentine’s Day. And, you know, the next day is a holiday. It’s President’s Day. I believe this is the first time ever...the day after the super bowl is a holiday.” —Jon (18:12)
“Super Bowl Sunday is a very home type party…Restaurant restaurants eat shit on Super Bowl Sunday.” —Jon (19:22, 19:40)
“Smaller menu, larger bill, and they try to kick you out in 90 minutes.” —Jon (21:45)
“We had a very romantic Valentine’s Day last year with your mom!” —Sarah (21:59)
“10% off Gucci…It seemed like pretty normal.” —Jon (30:13)
“This was a bar in the middle of the mall. I was like, why doesn’t everyone do this?” —Sarah (31:01)
“I have to have a plan and a Xanax…I have it strategically planned in my head.” —Jon (32:26) “Executive membership…you can go at 8 o’clock. I’ll never go back.” —Jon (32:24)
Both hosts unloading grievances:
“Are Trader Joe’s parking lots universally bad or is it just Los Angeles?” —Sarah (33:56)
Jon’s breakdown:
“Every single parking lot is one way, one way in, one way out…They have like security guards…people want to fucking fight.” —Jon (35:03)
Sarah on her parking lot vigilante tactics:
“You know that I roll down my window and stick my head out and stare.” —Sarah (36:37)
Notable quote (Sarah):
“Pull out of your parking spot. Be aware. Situational awareness!” (37:04)
Story of viral “situational awareness” cop video
“Your dog has more situational awareness than you do right now.” —Sarah recounting a cop (37:10)
“Are they the most overrated event in the world?” —Jon (39:13)
“Shriners with their little cars, baton twirling society, Santa Claus waving…wow we lined up for this five float parade.” —Jon (39:17)
“I was in a parade as a drill team member with President Bill Clinton. Well, he was the governor at the time.” —Sarah (40:29)
“Supposed to be a 45 minute parade…[was] a three hour parade because the streets were so lined with people…thousands and thousands of people every intersection.” —Jon (42:11)
“If you're ever in Bellevue, Washington, around Christmas, Candy Cane Lane’s a real good time.” —Sarah (44:49) "Thanksgiving to January 1st every year." —Jon (44:56)
The hosts’ playful, candid, and occasionally expletive-laden tone is sustained throughout, with Sarah’s quick-witted sarcasm and Jon’s laid-back Canadian charm. Listeners will get the usual blend of relatable life stories, random tangents, and genuine book enthusiasm—all delivered with humor and affection.