Rookie Mistakes

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Book Lisp – “Rookie Mistakes”

Hosts: Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
Episode Date: August 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively, humorous episode of The Book Lisp, hosts (and married couple) Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna riff on “rookie mistakes” inspired by their current psychological thriller book selection (Sometimes I Lie), weaving in personal stories about sports, comedy, first impressions, pet names, shoplifting, and the dynamics of hearing secrets. The episode offers listeners a mix of book-club banter, life anecdotes, and relationship dynamics—with the full book review promised for next week. No major spoilers are given, in keeping with their format, but plenty of related topics are explored with warmth and wit.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Podcast Format, Book Updates & Personal Check-ins

[00:40–03:14]

• Sarah re-explains the show’s structure: they draw topics from a monthly book—alternating between Jon’s romance choices and Sarah’s thrillers. Full reviews come at the end of the month.
• “Sometimes I Lie” is the focus for August. September’s pick is “The Wedding People.”
• They promote Patreon for bonus content, short stories, and behind-the-scenes fun.

Quote:

"If you're new here, we just do topics off of little things we pull out of the book. There's no spoilers." – Sarah [00:48]

2. Jon’s Portland Pickles Baseball Recap

[03:15–08:33]

• Jon discusses the Portland Pickles’ emotional playoff journey: a strong season record (43–11), a dramatic win over the league’s giants, then heartbreak in the finals.
• The behind-the-scenes of managing, handling loss, and the abrupt shift when the season ends:

“You put a lot of work into it...these guys, they come and play for you all summer, and it’s so awesome. They just give you everything, and then...after the game...they go back [to school], and we just have to sit in our dirty diapers for nine and a half months until the next game.” – Jon [06:49]

• Sarah shares her recent comedy gigs, the oddities of Portland, and the weird encounters Jon had in the city.

Memorable Moment:
Jon recounts the “guy at a bar” with dad jokes:

“Why do all hot dogs look the same? Because they're in bread.” – Jon [09:53]

3. On Pet Names and Family Quirks

[12:54–18:18]

• Sarah shares how her mom’s approach to pet naming was hilariously literal—dogs named for their quirks (Digby for digging, Rowdy for rowdiness, Rusty for color).
• Jon’s family opted for more conventional human names for pets, sparking debate about anthropomorphism:

“Thank God she just named her kids Sarah and Jennifer because you guys could have had some up names.” – Jon [14:35]

• Discussion about human vs. “character trait” pet names and the nostalgia of family animals.

4. First Impressions—Sports, Life & Marriage

[18:35–31:35]

• They draw from the book’s theme (psychological thriller, twists) to discuss misleading first impressions.
• Jon describes NFL team dynamics, rookie egos, and personal blunders:
  • Richard Sherman’s infamous rookie media gaffe, which turned out to be part of his legendary football persona.
  • Bobby Wagner’s lateness—a misunderstanding at first, but actually due to a required drug test.
  • "I was just there holding my dick in my hand, looking like an—" – Jon [22:40]
• Sarah recounts her own first impression fails, including misjudging a rowdy baseball fan who later turned out to be sweet:

“Sometimes, even if you just...you probably learned a decent lesson too...maybe that’s not cool to do. You never know who you're sitting next to.” – Sarah [27:08]

• The pair recall their own first impressions of each other:
  • “Hot. Hot, hot.” – Jon [27:30]
  • “You were even sweeter than I thought you would be.” – Sarah [28:58]

5. Tales of Shoplifting, Security Tags, and “Rookie” Crimes

[32:20–41:30]

• Inspired by the book’s plot, Jon and Sarah trade stories of “rookie” shoplifters from their youth:
  • Jon’s college friend’s roommate caught for credit card fraud.
  • Sarah’s classmate stealing from Dillard’s department store.
• Discussion on shifting attitudes toward shoplifting, security fears from childhood, and the oddity of theft being normalized (or even “cool” with ink-tag markings).
• Modern retail challenges:
  • "Now...people just walk into the store and just grab whatever they want and walk out." – Jon [36:05]
• Lighthearted takes on security devices (alcohol bottle tags, behind-glass shopping) and the hassle for both customers and employees.

6. Coma, Secrets, and Hearing More Than You Should

[41:30–45:21]

• Anchored by the novel’s premise (a protagonist who hears everything while in a coma), the hosts discuss the ethics of sharing what you overheard while “unconscious.”
• Jon:

“Depends on how petty it was. I think everyone talks trash about people to a certain extent.” [43:29]

• Sarah recalls the podcast Blink, paralleling its storyline—patients can sometimes truly hear everything.

Quote:

“When I’m in a hospital room, I’m just gonna act like the person can hear every word I say.” – Sarah [44:20]

7. Life Updates, Travel, and Listener Engagement

[45:21–46:51]

• Sarah plugs upcoming comedy dates; Jon requests Austria and Munich travel tips (emphasizing beer halls over museums).
• They chat about future episodes, remind listeners about the book for September, and encourage joining their Patreon community.

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Memorable Quotes & Lighthearted Moments

• “Devastation happened.” – Jon, on the Pickles’ baseball loss [08:33]
• “We don’t do Tommy Lee jokes here.” – Sarah [13:43]
• “I was so sick the next day I laid in bed all day the next day.” – Jon, on their first date and getting the flu [30:26]
• “If you have a dog just named Unhoused. Unhouser. Come here.” – Jon [17:49]
• “Don’t tell us to get a room because we have one, and we’re about to use it later.” – Jon [28:57]

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Suggested Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:40] – Show intro & current book lineup
• [03:15] – Portland Pickles baseball: season recap & emotions
• [09:14] – The characters and quirks of Portland, wacky city stories
• [12:54] – Pet naming conventions (Sarah & Jon’s families)
• [18:35] – First impressions: NFL stories & personal anecdotes
• [24:01] – Sarah’s first impression stories
• [32:20] – Tales of shoplifting and retail security
• [41:30] – The ethics of “hearing while in a coma”; book-related tie-in
• [45:21] – Upcoming dates, travel asks, and episode wrap-up

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Tone and Style

The episode is loose, conversational, and funny, with a playful “couple’s banter” dynamic. Jon’s grounded sports background contrasts with Sarah’s comedian’s observations, creating relatable and entertaining discussion for book lovers and casual listeners alike.

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Summary

“Rookie Mistakes” intertwines book club musings with personal stories about sports, comedy, crime (the petty kind), and life’s first impressions—anchoring everything to the themes of their current psychological thriller. As always, Jon and Sarah keep it engaging, encouraging listeners to participate and join the fun both on Patreon and through the next book pick. The full review of Sometimes I Lie is set for next week.

Transcript

[A]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[B]

And I'm John Ryan.

[A]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[B]

The Book Lisp.

[A]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp, starring John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. I said starring. I don't usually say that.

[B]

No. Yeah, no, tonight we're starring.

[A]

Starring John Ryan and Sarah Colonna as themselves sometimes. Sometimes, always as ourselves. How are you, John?

[B]

I'm good. I haven't seen you for a while.

[A]

No, haven't seen me since we were outside by our pool talking about how we're going to record. I put a little. Little video up on Patreon telling people that we were. How it can be difficult. I've said this before. It could be a little trickier finding light topics to talk about when we read one of my books. This book was so crazy. But I have. We have this some fun things planned for today. And then next week's the full review. Already? Already. The last. Ready in August next week. Yeah. Which is crazy. So if you're new here, we just do topics off of little things we pull out of the book. There's no spoilers. And then on the last Monday of the month, we do the full book review discussion. Can't wait to talk about it. We are, for September, we are reading the Wedding People. And I've started it. I'm loving it.

[B]

Yeah, it's really good so far. I mean, I'm only a quarter of the way through and this is one of the. I think this is the only book that I've done where I didn't read it prior to Right for Views and my research. And now I'm reading it right now.

[A]

That's what I did with this. With this one. Sometimes I lie so well.

[B]

It's a good one.

[A]

I know. Well, that's what's gonna be. What's crazy is that means by first week of September, I already have to pick another one.

[B]

My God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm excited because what, you gotta pick for October.

[A]

God, yeah. Anyway, we'll get to that. So welcome. Join the book listeners on Facebook. We keep a featured tab of everything we're reading. Join us on patreon. It's only $5 a month. We do a short story there every month. That's really fun. Every 15th of the month, on the 5th and the 25th, you get just bonus Patreon exclusive content. Not necessarily about books. Sometimes we're just BSing, talking about things going on. But sometimes it's about what we're reading, but nothing you have to read along with. But the short stories are so fun. And then there's other little random stuff that we do there. We've did bonus chapters for stuff, all kinds of things. So we have fun over there. Join us if you can rate, review and subscribe. All the things. Right, John, now before we get into this full at this regular episode here, I feel like you probably want to talk to the people about the. The end of the season for your Portland pickles. Just because I know that people. Follow along. John was in Portland all week and they went to the championship. They're trying to go for back to back and tell us about your week there, John.

[B]

Well, yeah, I was with you.

[A]

I went to.

[B]

So yes, you came to the opening round game.

[A]

Yeah. It was so fun.

[B]

It was so fun. It was lucky that that game was great because we. It was a three game series and we were up one nothing. And then we had, you know, game number two was at home and if we lost that, then game number three would have been home too. Game number two. And it was like we were up seven nothing in the first inning, hit a grand slam. It was, it was like a relaxing. Everyone was like partying. Everyone knew we were going to win after that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was, it was very good. And then Tuesday was a semifinal against Corvallis Knights, who are historically the best team in the league. I think the league's been around for like 20 years and they've won the championship like 13 times.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, it's 17 team league. It's a big league.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they win every year. So that was kind of like a huge game. Very intense on Tuesday. We ended up winning two to one and it was just like absolute chaos. I took videos the last three innings. No one sat down. Everyone was cheering like crazy. It was like the funnest atmosphere. It was intense and it was stressful for me. But like the funnest atmosphere you've ever been in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then Thursday was the championship game and we were playing a team that, you know, if we played them 10 times, we'd probably win eight of them, maybe even nine. We had the greatest record in the history of the league this year. We went 43 and 11. The greatest record of all time, which.

[A]

Is a crazy record if you know anything about. But I felt like a lot of wins.

[B]

Yeah. For baseball it's almost impossible. And so this game, it kind of felt like. It almost felt like a letdown game. Right. You watched it on tv.

[A]

Yeah, I was watching it. It just. If the energy was. It was just felt weird for some reason.

[B]

I don't know why. It was our most Streamed game ever. It was like, there was a lot of time. This numbers might not sound like that much, but like, 3,000 fans watching during, like, on the live stream, and, you know, we had 4,000 fans in the crowd, so that's for this level ball. It's pretty big deal.

[A]

Yeah, I was. When I was watching it, I kept watching the numbers go up too, like, because it shows you how many people were watching because it's a YouTube channel. And it was like rising, rising, rising throughout the game.

[B]

Yeah. And we also have the best announcer in the. In the world. Mike checks on that feed. It's. It's so. They're so good. It's just. It's just fun. Even if you're not into the game, it's just fun just to listen to them because they're so good. Okay. So this game is like. It just. Right from the start, it didn't feel right. We are, like the most offensive team the league. We couldn't get a hit. We didn't. It was six innings and we didn't have a hit yet. We were down one, but we still were only down one. Nothing, because our pitching was great. Then we finally get a hit in the seventh, but even that was a flukey one off the pitcher's ankle. And then it just. The whole game didn't feel right. We ended up losing 2 to 1. Like, the most heartbreaking loss. And it's so crazy. Last year, we won, and I was obviously there, and I didn't think. I didn't know that I'd get, like, that excited about winning. It was, like, just about as big to me as the Super Bowl. And I didn't really realize it till I was, like, in the moment. And even people were like, didn't you win the Super Bowl? This is that big a deal to you? I'm like, yeah, yeah, it is. And this year, I didn't think I'd be so hurt by the loss. And I was like. I was, like, devastated. And I had, like. You know, we had. It was. Our coach had been there for 10 years. It's his last game. So that was, like, emotional. We had, you know, staff members crying. It was. It was a lot. You know, you put a lot of work into it. And, you know, these. These guys, they come and play for you all summer, and it's so awesome. They just give you everything, and then you Know, tomorrow or what was that? Games on Thursday, Friday morning, they're all off to, you know, back to Oklahoma to play or back to Nevada to play or California. They all kind of break up after the game. They kind of, they kind of go on and we just have to sit.

[A]

Because they go back to college for.

[B]

They go back to college.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're all NCAA Division 1. It's basically an all star league. This whole league where we play all summer and it's basically the best players in the ncaa and they get, they get to go back. I'm not saying that they get to, but they go back and then we, the rest of us, all the staff, we just have to kind of sit in our dirty diapers for nine and a half months until the next game, you know, like, like they get to move on. I'm not. I'm saying they get to move on. And we're kind of just stuck in it because we don't have that other team to play for. So it's just kind of like nine and a half months now. I was like, God, you know, when you're in it, it feels like it just goes forever and then it just ends so quickly. Then you have 42 weeks before you start again.

[A]

Yeah. But then even though you got to distract you.

[B]

Yeah. We have like 20 full time staff members. So they're working all year round. So it doesn't. Probably doesn't feel like that as much to them as it does to me. But yeah, at least I have football.

[A]

What?

[B]

We're going to the first Seahawk game.

[A]

That's right. We're going September 7th to Seahawks game. Is it. What did you say they call. It's like Legends Weekend or something too.

[B]

Yeah, they have like a Legends weekend once a year where they bring back all. It's been a former players that want to come.

[A]

Right. And there's something on and like you can go to practice and stuff like that, right?

[B]

Yeah, we go to practice and we have a little, little lunch together with the team and then a meeting about. Yeah, you'll definitely be back at the hotel for that. We have a meeting about our benefits, which is, you know, fun. I'm up to, you know me, I check my benefits like every week. I'm up to date on everything. I know exactly how everything's working. So I go to these meetings and they're talking to guys like what I get, I get how much money when I'm like, dude, don't you know this?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. John. John is up on all that stuff. So we're going to do that. That'll be fun. So, yeah, a little recap. Just a little recap for those of you that were curious what happened. That's what happened, John.

[B]

Devastation happened.

[A]

Devastation happens. Here we are. I had fun in San Antonio. I had a good show in San Antonio. I had to reschedule the one that was in the Woodlands. It was out of my hands. But it's okay. Nothing bad happened. It's just a work thing that conflicted, and it was like, that I kind of couldn't fix. So that's going to be August. Sorry. November 14th. So the Do Si do has been rescheduled to November 14th. And all this week, while you're listening, I am in Vegas at Brad Garrett's comedy club. So come on out. Come on out and see me. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. 18th through the 24th.

[B]

You know what I didn't talk to you about, because I was in Portland for, like, 10 days, and Portland is one of the weirdest cities in the world, and they. They take a lot of pride in that. It's fun. Like, people. They don't want to conform to normal normalism. They're their own city, and it's different, and it's so much fun. But with that, like, there's always some people, like, exceptionally weird. I had a guy. I was sitting in the bar yesterday. I had a guy come in and just start telling me jokes. And he said he tells jokes for a living. I'm like, you must be broke. Just, like, cracked off, like, three dad jokes. I think they're basically like, sir, if we give you a glass of water, can you leave? Yeah, of course.

[A]

What was the one that you told me that he told you?

[B]

Why do all hot dogs look the same? Because they're in bread.

[A]

Right. There we go.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. It was so, like. Like a dad joke to the. Yeah, that guy, he's. He's definitely broke if he's telling jokes for a living. And then I was standing. Matt and I were standing in line before the game. Like, we went to a bar. We met up with the other owner for their team, and we're in line to get into this pub, and a guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, who. Who? The Pickles. I go, pickles are like the baseball team here. Where are you from? He's like, oh, I'm from. I'm from Portland. Who's never heard of the Pickles? And you tell. He was like, just a bit of a different guy. What's your name? Like John, you know, what's your name, blah, blah. This might be awkward, but you know that Mars is inhabitable, right? I go, oh yeah, My have a friend that's been living on Mars for 50 years and you might want to look it up. I go, matt, Al, let's go to the bar, buddy. We don't need a table. All right, see you, bud. All right. And then yesterday, as I was, got.

[A]

A friend that's living on Mars for 50 years.

[B]

Why is no one talking about this?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I know. Cnn. What are you up to? Go cover this story.

[A]

Can't believe nobody talks about it.

[B]

Unbelievable stuff that I just found out about this weekend. Then yesterday I was walking, shocker. I was walking into the bar yesterday and the guy outside, he goes, hey, looking at you keeps me humble, man. I was like, oh, okay. He goes, hope there's someone in your life that keeps you humble. I'm like, all right. I have no clue what that means. No clue.

[A]

I don't know either.

[B]

No.

[A]

Looking at you, very passionate, humble. Okay.

[B]

I don't know what that means.

[A]

No, because it sounds at first like he's. Is he complimenting you? But you're curious.

[B]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

[A]

Okay, well, I'm trying to decipher what.

[B]

I meant, but it was. And then at our hotel there was like a skateboard competition, like a Rockstar Energy drink. So the whole hotel was just Rockstar and they wrapped the whole hotel in Rockstar Energy. And then like even in the whole like the lounge and everything, there's like a big like Rockstar Energy beanbag chairs and there's like a DJ all weekend and they had like a second bar. It was like a whole thing. And it's not a crowd I fit in with.

[A]

You're not, you're not a big, you're.

[B]

Not a big 17 year old skateboarder that travel the country skating.

[A]

You're not, you didn't have much to say.

[B]

I'm by no means cutting them down as if the professional skateboarders. I just, I don't have a lot in common with them.

[A]

Well. Oh yeah, no, I know.

[B]

The bar that I normally sit at was not welcoming to me anymore.

[A]

You got, I was gonna say you kind of live in that hotel part of the season. So I was in the hotel like.

[B]

30 nights this year. This season. 30 nights. Not hotel.

[A]

That's not, that's rooms are tiny. It's very nice hotel, but the rooms are just real small. It's fine for John, but it's Perfect.

[B]

When I'm by myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

184 square feet. Rooms.

[A]

Yeah. Pretty small.

[B]

Just bigger than a jail cell.

[A]

Oh, okay. John, we were talking about some things that we can. We can sort of go off of from the book. And one thing I wanted to talk to you about is there's my. Is that the dog? There's a dog in this book at one point named Digby.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And we had a dog named Digby when I was growing up.

[B]

What kind of dog was it?

[A]

It was a little dog. I don't. I think it was. I almost think it was like a. I don't think it was a wiener dog. It would. No, it wasn't a wiener dog. I don't remember. But it was small. It was like black with a brown. I think I'm gonna have to ask my mom. She'll remember.

[B]

But. You wanna tell Tommy Lee's joke right now then?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We don't do Tommy Lee jokes here. And Tommy Lee pulled a wiener dog out of his pants at the concert and said, do you? Who wants to see my wiener? And I was like, you're 60 something years old. We gotta stop this. And then I saw. I think I already told that story anyway. But of course the whole crowd just like kills themselves over it. Laughing.

[B]

Don't stop encouraging.

[A]

Yeah, you encourage him. Anyway, and that was just last year, guys. So I. Anyway, so. But we had a dog named Digby. And do you know why my mom named it Digby?

[B]

Well, something like. Didn't she have like. She names everything very literally.

[A]

So, yeah.

[B]

What was the story behind it?

[A]

Because he used to dig holes in the yard.

[B]

Cat.

[A]

Yeah. Rowdy cat because he's rowdy. Digby because he digs holes.

[B]

Dig holes.

[A]

Had an Irish setter named Rusty because he was red.

[B]

I mean, thank God she just named her kids Sarah and Jennifer because you guys could have had some up names.

[A]

Oh, that's a good point.

[B]

I'll call this one Curly Up. Some Curly Blonde Colona.

[A]

Curly Blonde Colona.

[B]

Done. On to the next.

[A]

I like that. I kind of like that. Dave, like colon. I might had an easier time breaking into comedy back when I was starting. Yeah, we had. So when, then. And then my stepdad, he knew he would name his dogs normally, right? So we had. He had a dog named JoJo. But then when JoJo had a baby and we kept. And we had her puppy. What did my mom name JoJo's dog? Baby Joe. New Joe. So she was the new.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

Because she was the new Jojo. And Then we had. When I was growing up, we had a cat named Fraidy.

[B]

Because it was a fraidy cat.

[A]

It was a Fraidy cat where she. We had another one that was. That used to jump out and scare her. So she called that one Spook.

[B]

Oh, my God. You're so lucky you're Sarah.

[A]

I know I haven't ever thought about it before, but you're right. We had. Let's see. I'm trying to remember now. It's like they have a dog named Sadie. I think my nephew named it, though. So that's.

[B]

Yeah, that was originally.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he adopted her, so my nephew named her, but. And she lives with them now because he couldn't have a dog when he was. Because he traveled.

[B]

What about your horses? Did your horses have weird names?

[A]

You know? No. Bo and Dandy. Yeah, just sort of. Yeah. I don't know why they weren't called, like, tall, Tall White Horse.

[B]

And this guy's called Giddy Up.

[A]

Giddy Up. Giddy up would be an amazing name. Yeah. So anyway, that's what. That's how my mom used to name can't with it. Listen, they can't. Everyone can't name their animals after Christmas movies like you do.

[B]

Well, when we were kids, we had a dog, a Shih Tzu, and its name was Maggie. Oh, we had a. Then we had a Bijan Shih Tzu after Maggie died. And its name was Olivia.

[A]

Oh, I like the name Olivia. Yeah, we had that. We have a friend that just adopted a dog named Olivia not long ago. That was an elderly dog. Very sweet. Anyway, well, sounds like you guys just had normal names for your animals.

[B]

I guess some people don't, like, like, human names for animals. You know, I think it's a little too literal. Not literal. It's a little too human. Like, I guess.

[A]

I know. I like it, though. Like, I think Sadie's cute. Oh, wait, I forgot. I forgot about another one. Oh, don't. Yeah, we had one that just wandered into our yard one day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he was white with. And brown. He was so cute. And. But he just wandered into our yard, so we kept him. And my mom called him Hobo.

[B]

God, that's amazing. She'd have to call him Unhoused now, but. Yeah.

[A]

Right, right. Well, this is. I mean, you know, this is like. Yeah.

[B]

If you have a dog just named Unhoused. Unhouser. Come here.

[A]

Well, Howser Hauser is actually a cute name, but. Yeah. So anyway, I. When I saw the name Digby, it really brought back the memories of Digby, the dog that used to dig holes and got his name from digging holes. And then one time we had a cat named Muffin. I don't know what. I don't know why that one just got to have a. Have a cute little normal name.

[B]

When your mom found it, it probably was eating a Muffin story or it's probably in a muffin shop or there's something gotta be tied to that, I'm sure.

[A]

Oh, what else do we have here today, John?

[B]

We're going to talk about first impressions.

[A]

All right, first impressions. That's. That's something that happens a lot in this book for sure. And also. Well, my first impression of just what was going on is way different than. That's why I guess it's called a psychological thriller with a twist. But we'll get to all that. But next week. Yes. First impression. Have you ever had a first impression of someone that you were way off?

[B]

Yeah, but I think, actually when I think back, it happened all the time because, I mean, I played professional football for 19 years and every year you play with on average, one third of the team rolls over every year. And even at that you're having like 90 guys at training camp. You have. Over the course of the year, you probably have 120, 130 guys come through that room. And so you have almost. Almost daily you meet someone new. And that's a good point. And it's because guys have obviously big personalities and big egos. You almost have to play professional football. And so you just, you could always just like sometimes almost, because some guys have kind of come in like puffed up, you know, and like most rookies kind of come in like a little like, you know, you know, respectful and kind of like under the radar. But every once in a while you get guys comes like a little puffed up.

[A]

Right? You kind of on the defense already? Kind of.

[B]

Yes. Usually you can kind of call it out right away and be like, buddy, you gotta, you gotta get put in your place pretty quick here. Because that's also what veterans do, is they put you in your place pretty quick. But I had, here's. If you're a football fan, we had this kid, it was like 2008-910201-02011 rookie. And we play against Cincinnati. And after that, he. He was playing against AJ Green, I believe, the receiver, I think that's who it was, who's a phenomenal receiver and had a great game. And not that our guy had a bad game either. And he's a Rookie. And he goes off after the game, he goes, I didn't think he was that good, to be honest. In the media. He's like, I don't think he's that good.

[A]

Oh, he said it in the media.

[B]

In the media. He goes, I don't think he's that good. I'm better. And so Pete comes into the media Monday morning. Pete has this like, wait, when he goes, shut the hell up, Rook that rookie became one of the greatest defensive backs in the history of football. One of the all time great guys, Richard Sherman.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So that was the. It was. You know, it was. You know, also when you have like 100 and some guys kind of going through, you don't really get to know some guys. It sometimes takes a few months. And so that was really one of my first impressions. Even though he'd already been there for a couple months or a month, that was one of my first impressions. Richard Sherman, he's kind of. Shut up. I'm like, who is this guy? Like, dude, you haven't done anything yet. And then I've learned it's Richard Sherman. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows exactly the game he's playing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He became one of the greatest defensive backs of all time and all. As I said, one of the greatest guys of all time. You know him, too.

[A]

He's a great guy.

[B]

He's always been Stanford graduates, Absolute brilliant guy.

[A]

And very kind. Very kind. And knows how to play things up for sure. Yeah.

[B]

A first impression that was off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My second one that I can think of right off the bat was we had a linebacker, a guy named Bobby Wagner, who will be a Hall of Famer. We played like 13 years in the NFL. He's like a all Pro every year. He was one of the first. One of the first dates after they drafted him, and he walks into the special teams meeting with his teenage backpack on, and he's late. He's like two or three minutes late.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And I am not having that in my special teams meeting. So I'm like, hey, time you maybe. Maybe grow up. Get rid of that backpack and come on, time. That's what we do around here, bud.

[A]

Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God.

[B]

I let her.

[A]

John.

[B]

I later find out that he had a drug test. He didn't even talk back to me. He. He had a drug test. I'll tell you, totally good reason that. Be like, you're allowed to be late for a drug test.

[A]

Ye.

[B]

He's also possibly one of the greatest guys ever. One of the greatest football Players ever played with. Now I'm like. And to add to it, that's, like, his patented backpack that his sister gave him as a gift. Like, oh, my God, how many strikes do I. But that was the other one. I was just like, this guy, he just got to know what he's doing. Then he turns out to be, like, the most professional pro of all time. And it wasn't even his fault.

[A]

He was late, and he didn't say anything.

[B]

I didn't even say anything. He's such a classy guy. And I'm just there holding my dick in my hand, looking like an.

[A]

Well, listen, you learn. But football, he probably kind of. I bet he appreciated it in a way.

[B]

It was always hard. Yes, but there was always hard. Because a lot of these guys, when they come out of college, they were the star of their college team. I'm not talking about in general. They're the star of the college team. They're the starting linebacker. They're starting running back. They get to the pros, they're going to have to play special teams for a couple years if they want to make it up to most of them. You know, unless you're a star like Marshawn or something, most of these guys, you have to play special. Even Cam. Cam Chancellor had to play only special teams his first year before he got a shot at a starter. One of the greatest players ever. And so they. They're not used to that. So sometimes when they, you know, they wouldn't take special teams seriously. It would early on until they figured out, that's how I'm going to make the team. It used to piss me off. Like, you might want to listen up to your buddy. You're going to be unemployed in two weeks.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so I always had a chip on my shoulder early on in the season, early on in training camp, because I felt like some of these guys weren't taking it serious enough because they thought they were just going to be, you know, the starting running back or the starting left, whatever it is.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they didn't realize they had to play special teams to kind of earn their way to potentially play. Starting off as starting defense.

[A]

Kind of like how I had to work my way up to the drive through when I was working on Hardys.

[B]

Yes, exactly. Exactly. I was back there making biscuits for 20 years. This fricking game.

[A]

Don't put me. Don't make me. 20 years at Hardee's.

[B]

I was 20 years at football. Hardee's.

[A]

Well, I had the one that I. I think I told this story not. Not long after it happened, so I won't. I won't rehash it too much, but a reminder that there was. We were recently at a game, a first impression that I had of. We were at an Angels baseball game, and there was this guy next to me, and he was one of the players got injured, and he basically was. Was saying bs he's not hurt. Walk it off. Don't. You know, kind of. That kind of stuff. And that stuff always gets by. And it. I forgot who they were playing, but it was not. It was the opposing team. And I was.

[B]

It was. It was the mar. It was the Mariners.

[A]

It was the Mariners. You're right. And I was. I immediately. I. I don't say anything for a minute, but then I finally was like, you know, I mean, I think he's hurt, so you can just. You can chill.

[B]

Calm down with that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Because I have been in the stands and seen severe injuries happen to my husband, to other people. And so it always. It. It drives me absolutely insane when people start. Walk it off. Okay, you're not hurt. It's like you don't know what's happening to somebody.

[B]

It's annoying sometimes because a lot of times when people. Not everyone, but a lot of fans, they start to, like, dehumanize the players on the field.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're just there for their entertainment. They're not real humans.

[A]

Yeah. And I mean, people have, like, terrifying game ending, injuries, I mean. And season ends. Yeah. You know, career ending. That's the word.

[B]

We were playing a game in Dallas and you were there. I don't mean to cut off your story. We'll pick it back up. But we're playing a game in Dallas and you were there in. Ricardo Lockett almost died on the field. Even when they took him off the field, they weren't sure if he was going to live. Two years later, he actually had a botched surgery. He still almost died. The guy was not out of the. And the guy beside you said, oh, great, he's on my fantasy team.

[A]

Yeah. I flipped out on that guy.

[B]

That was like, he didn't even have the right guy. He was thinking of Tyler Lockett. So he was smart enough to know the difference between the two players.

[A]

I had to.

[B]

He was upset because his $50 office pool, he might lose that week. As opposed to a guy who might die on the field.

[A]

Yeah. And so that had made me. My. My impression of that guy was correct. My first impression.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But the one at this game, anyway. In case you guys have already heard it, I'll just, I'll just sum it up. Basically, we end up sort of chatting and he ends up being the sweetest guy, and he was there with his son, and he's just like, I'm just having fun. And he didn't, you know, he didn't think about it, didn't mean any harm. And I was like, sorry, I was a. To you. When we first, When I, I. And he was like, no. And I go, it's okay. I was a. And he's like, well. And then, and then, like when I left, we hugged and I know you.

[B]

Guys were hogging your time the whole game.

[A]

Yeah, we were talking. He kind of started to ride my. He reminded me a little bit of my dad. Not my dad wouldn't have done that, joking around. However, this guy, you know, sometimes, sometimes you have to. Even if you just. And I think he probably learned a decent lesson too, of like, all right, maybe I, you know, maybe that's not cool to do. You never know who you're sitting next to. Things like that. You never know how someone's going to take it. And also, just in general, it can, it can be a bad look. But he, he turned out. I was like, this guy, this is a good guy. He's not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I'm trying to think too. First impressions? Well, what was your first impression of me?

[B]

Hot. Hot, Hot. Well, I saw you on, I saw you on tv, so I didn't, like, I, it was obviously a very good first impression.

[A]

Right. But I mean, in person, in person.

[B]

I thought you were extremely. You were even better looking in person. And that was the first time we've been talking for like a month, three weeks at least. Maybe a month. And I thought that one of my first things, that when you got up there, you had like a really cute walk.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, you're wearing the good butt jeans.

[A]

I was like, oh, you have a cute walk. Yeah, guys, I, I. Listen, you know, on a first date, you gotta, you gotta wear your good butt jeans. And I, I knew I had my good butt jeans on, so I, that was well thought out on my end. But I don't know if I have a cute walk. I think I walk kind of like I'm on, like somebody's chasing me.

[B]

It's cute. Oh, I was, I was chasing you, girl.

[A]

He made me blush a little bit.

[B]

You had a nice black top on too. Real low, plunging.

[A]

You know, guys, I mean, you must have.

[B]

Yeah. You had no bra and you must have like nipple tape or something.

[A]

Sometimes if it's the right shirt, I can get away with no bra. If it's. I mean, some of those shirts anyway. All right, we're.

[B]

It's a little.

[A]

Okay, like everyone. Sorry, everyone. We don't tell us to get a room because we have one and.

[B]

And we're about to use it later.

[A]

Stop it. Well, I was going to say my first impression of you was just that you were even sweeter than I thought that you would be. Like, I knew that you were nice and I knew you were funny, but you were, you were just very thoughtful. Like, you brought me that box of like your favorite things, which I've talked about before. Probably not on this podcast, but you can read all about it in my book. Has anyone seen my pants? I think I put that in there, right? I tell that story on stage sometimes too recently. But yeah, so mine was that you were even sweeter. And then later that night I thought maybe you were just like, you had like, you were a really heavy sweater. But it turns out you were getting the flu.

[B]

That day. I had been with my nieces and nephews. I flew them in from Canada, the four of them, and my sister and brother in law. I flew them in from Canada to go to Disneyland. So we were in Disneyland for a week. And that's why I was there and that's why I came to take you on a date. And for lunch we went to Ariel's Grotto and had a seafood tower. The lunch of the day of the date, February 24, 2014. I had a seafood platter. And then I was finding by about the end of our date, which must have been know 10 hours later, I started not feeling good, not feeling good. And then on the way home, I was feeling like real bad. And then I was so. I was so sick the next day I. I laid in bed all day the next day.

[A]

I know because I think I thought you were going to stay over. But then I wasn't sure because I knew that you had to get back. You might have to get back. But then you were. Anyway, yeah, you guys, I mean, everyone knows by this point that we did it on the first date, so. But. But then I. The next day I wasn't sure. I was like, did he leave because he didn't feel good or just because he needed to also get back to. And also you didn't want to get in the traffic in the morning. But then I saw you. Then I came down there and I saw you that night. And the second night I Came down to Disneyland, to Orange county, not to Disney.

[B]

I didn't take Disneyland.

[A]

No. I didn't like it that much, yet still don't.

[B]

No one should ever like that one, that someone that much to go to Disneyland with them.

[A]

No, they shouldn't.

[B]

There's a lot of, there's a lot of adult Disneylanders, and I support it. I'm not making fun of anybody.

[A]

No.

[B]

Whatever the hell makes you happy this day and age, but I know that that's not you.

[A]

No, it's just not for me.

[B]

Thank, thank God I didn't stay. I think I was like, oh, is it going to be awkward if, like, I get home to my, my family where, like, we had like, I joined like hotel rooms. If I get home like 11 in the morning, they're like, oh, we went to Disneyland two hours ago. Where have you been? Uncle John.

[A]

Oh, right. Yeah. I guess that could have been awkward.

[B]

Yeah. So I didn't. Then I was like, Then I was like, now, then really think about now. I'm like, wow, I'm really. Because, I mean, what could be less attractive than waking up the first time you've been with someone and they're sick? I mean, that would have been. I mean, I would have faked it and just hobbled out of there, but my God, that would have been.

[A]

I know you never, you don't really ever say if you're sick, but, but also, you wouldn't want to have driven in the morning back to Orange county from here. You're much better off at 11 o' clock at night anyway. Okay, another thing I want to ask you about because we know there's. I'm sure you guys have already gotten there, but if you haven't, there's a stolen item situation that happens in this book. Have you. Do you know anyone that's ever stolen anything?

[B]

Well, I think like, like, like when you're like 11 or 12 years old, you always had like friends that wanted to shoplift like candy bars and stuff. But I'm trying to think of anything like big, like, of like a substantial thing. Actually, this is the one thing that I can remember is I had had a, a girlfriend in college and she was going to. She had like two roommates. She had two roommates and one was from like, I can't remember, it was the Eastern European country. And so they were all like, good friends and everything. And then the school caught her stealing people's credit card information in all her classes. Oh, so she was using, like, she was, it was. She was like defrauding people for their credit. Like. Yeah.

[A]

Young to be doing.

[B]

Yeah, I'm like, like 21, 22, 19, whatever it was, you know, college. And she was so. She's stealing. And she was like. She was such a nice person other than the whole fraud thing, but yeah, like stealing people's credit card numbers in her classes. Luckily they went back in. The two. The two. They didn't. She didn't steal anything from the two roommates, which would have, like. It would have felt even grosser. But. Yeah, she got kicked out of the house and kicked out of school.

[A]

Oh, wow. Well, I knew a girl that used to shoplift, like, big time. Not really time. Well, I shouldn't say big time. It's not like she was taking. But still, I mean, she was like, fully.

[B]

She.

[A]

And. And like, I was with her.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. And I was like. I was so. I couldn't believe it. She would just like. She basically put a bag under. It was. She would go to the Dillard's. This was in high school. We go to Dillard's, which is like. I don't know if you guys have. It's a department store.

[B]

No, we don't.

[A]

Macy's, Bloomingdale's. I love a Dillard's. Damn. I love a Dillard's. God, I love it. Dillard's. I want to go to Dillard's right now. But she would, like. She would just put a bag underneath. You know, like there's round clothing racks that have a bunch of stuff on them and she just like fill it and walk out. Yeah.

[B]

Did they have.

[A]

I would be like, so scared. I mean, I feel bad about it now. I mean, I don't know. I like. I mean, I'm not. It was awful. I mean, we shouldn't have done that. But I mean, I was. I. Like she was doing it in front of me and I didn't know what to do. What am I going to do? Turn her in. Right.

[B]

You know, like, there was always the kids in high school that you knew that. All the shoplifters.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Big thing back then.

[A]

I don't think she ever got caught. I saw her. I mean, I think I only saw her do it once, but I. But I mean, and then she would just. And then once and then she tried. And then she gave me some. One thing that she stole and I took it. I feel bad.

[B]

So when I was in college, my roommate, Peter Reed, still a good friend. He's coming to my hall of fame thing in Regina, Saskatchewan, in September.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He worked as A surveillance guy at the Sears. It was called Sears Bargain Center. It was like. It was like the Sears. The rejected stuff from Sears. The things that take it back. It's like, what, almost like an outlet store for Sears.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so a lot of people shop there. Had a lot of. A lot of cheap goods. But his job was to work surveillance and try to catch everybody. And he. I think he worked there forever. I think he caught like, two people, and maybe the third one was like, an employee. An employee. There's like. There was like, exactly like $50 out of the till missing every night. Just like putting a camera. And they're like, this guy's just taking $50 a night out of the till back with cash. And then the one he caught, this like, girl that was like 16. I was like, what did she steal? She's like, he. She was just trying to steal a pair of thong panties. I'm like, you should probably just let her go. It's kind of sad stealing underpants. She was like, bring her in. Call her parents.

[A]

Oh, yeah. She's probably like, oh, I don't have anything cute. My parents buy. My parents buy me, like, this packaged underwear with little flowers on them.

[B]

And I just wanted one Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Yeah. What was it gonna say? I don't know. Like, I don't know how it works for you guys are all from right now, but here it's almost like scary. People just walk into the store and just grab whatever they want and walk out.

[A]

I think it's been. It's not. It's better now. It's a lot better now because they are actually. Will they prosecute now? Because there was a phase where they're like, oh, if it wasn't over, it was under like $900. Which is a lot. Yeah. Or something that they just didn't bother. And people knew that, but they changed that. They changed that. So it was.

[B]

It was like security guards were there just to observe, basically. But when. When we were. When we were kids, it was like, terrifying. We always saw those, like, videos in school. They'd show you. But, like, kids that were shoplifting and they get taken in the back and they call the police and the parents come. Yeah, I don't want any part of that.

[A]

No. Or like the guy like in Bad Santa, you don't want Bernie Mac yelling, yelling at you. He's like, pull your pants up, kid.

[B]

Is that MP3? Give it to me. Take the kids MP3 player.

[A]

Oh, yeah, he does. He takes it from him.

[B]

My grandma gave that to Me and.

[A]

He'S like, go on, get out of here. It's so funny. Yeah, I just, I remember. I mean, she was like. She wasn't, she wasn't scared.

[B]

God, I remember.

[A]

And I don't. Listen, I don't think she. I don't think things. I don't think her true track, like. Yeah, I don't think it went great from there.

[B]

Just like she doesn't like, she didn't like own a Dillard's now or anything.

[A]

No, but. But just to be fair, I get that when people are younger they do dumb things and then they grow out of it, but I'm not sure that she did.

[B]

Do you remember back in the day they'd always put those, those ink tabs, those ink tags on things?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

If you didn't have the machine take it off and just put like a big stain of purple ink on your shirt or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't want to steal it because it's wreck it. So I don't know if this was just like a Regina thing, but in the late 80s, early 90s, for a while it became very cool to have that ink mark on your shirt. That means. It means you stole it.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it was like a different.

[A]

Version of a hyper color shirt.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it was like, I'm cool. Like I lifted this.

[A]

Well, wouldn't your parents see it?

[B]

Yeah, maybe it's one of those things you took in a bag and then you changed in the bathroom at school.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, maybe. I remember one time walking. I remember one time someone forgot to take that off when I. And. And it didn't go off or something. And. And then I. But then I had to bring it back to the store and I was so scared they weren't gonna believe me, but luckily they did. I would brought it back and I. But I had. I mean, I had the receipt, but.

[B]

I have a big bottle of Don Julio Blanco in our condo in Phoenix that still has the tag on around the neck of it. I don't know if it just went off and I kept. I bought it, but this front thing, I forgot to take it off. Then I don't know if I just kept on walking when they, when the thing went off or if I didn't go off at all.

[A]

Do they have that everywhere? Because I know, like, I remember at Ralph's they used to have it. It would be on the top of the, you know, your, your big Tito's bottle or your, you know, the handle that you buy for the. For to last a While. Okay, guys, no judgment, but I remember they would have those on top of it. Yeah. And a couple times I remember someone forgetting to take it off. But I don't think that when we go to our grocery store, they don't have that anymore. Right.

[B]

I don't. I don't think so. When I was in Portland, like, the downtown cvs, they have. Almost everything's behind glass, which is kind of a good idea. But then you have to. Like, when I went there in the morning, there's only one employee. She's working the front. And then, like, I'm like, could I see, like, one bag of candy, that I need some hair supplies, and then I need, like, some Tylenol. Like, it was like, she, like, had to follow me around the store to open three different cabinets to get my stuff. I was like, it's not very, like, convenient for the employees.

[A]

No, that's super annoying. I know when you have to go, like, stand there at the. When you want a nice bottle. Like, I was buying that bottle of Belvedere for our friend that just bought a condo, and I was putting that little cat. That package together for him and I. And I wanted to get Belvedere and that one. And at first, I'm so dumb. I look over, I go down the grocery store line, and I'm like, oh, they don't have Belvedere here. Huh? All right. I guess I go to the liquor store on the way home and get the Belvedere. And then I realized it was in a case. Like, they lock up.

[B]

Yeah, they lock up.

[A]

They're like. They don't lock up the Tito's, though. Girl, you should.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I'll take that.

[B]

It was almost a little depressing to see some of the things that do have to lock up. You're locking up, like, baby formula.

[A]

I'm like, yeah, because. Yeah, I know in the South a lot. They have to be like, there would have. Because they. I've. I've heard people talk about here and be like, you know, just. When it's always politicians and it's. I'm. This isn't a. A specific person, but just there was that phase where they were just. Everyone's just. Yeah. And it's so bad in California. They have to lock up their sufat. I'm like, they have to do that in the south, guys. Like, they've had to lock that up for a long time. Like, it's not just a blue state problem. It's an everywhere problem.

[B]

It's an everywhere problem. I know some of go now.

[A]

I personally went to high school with a guy who had a Met lab.

[B]

So I think a lot of now where you go, when you actually go to the shelf you have is like a little piece of paper that they have in Costco, too, where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you take a piece of paper and they unlock it and bring it to you.

[A]

I know. What a pain in the ass for everybody because a bunch of monsters. I mean, I'm surprised Dillards didn't start locking up all their clothes every time they. The sp. Walk out of there.

[B]

I think it would have just been easier to lock up your friends.

[A]

You know, I think that might have happened later. Later on, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately. So one last question for you that I want to ask you. I love that these just get so random and fun, but I know if you. Okay, so we all know from the very beginning of the book, this doesn't feel like at all I'm spoiling anything this far along into the month, but that she's in a coma and that. And that she can. And this. We'll get more into the discussion of this part of it on the full review. But she can hear things going on around her and she. I can't imagine how frustrating. But. But it's. It's almost like. Like Mary and I were talking about something for our podcast, I think for a Patreon that's coming out this Sunday. We were talking. Are you My podcast. If you don't listen, you should. We were talking about. There was these what if questions. And one of them, what if you could speak another language just for a day? And I was like, oh, I'd go sit at the nail salon and just, you know, listen to them talk shit about everybody.

[B]

Yeah, you know, they are.

[A]

Yeah. And. But in a very different way. So in being in a coma and being able to hear everybody talk around you is in a weird way, like being able to speak another language. It feels like, because you're. They don't know that you're listening to every word that they say. So if you will, if you were in a coma, this is just a very random question, and you woke up and you had heard some things that were. I don't know, like some shit that you shouldn't have heard. Right. A friend in there said something that you didn't know about. I. I don't. I'm just trying. It's some kind of secret. Would you tell the people that you heard?

[B]

Depends on how petty it was. I think we Everyone talks trash about people to a certain extent. So if people were just like, you know, you know, I thought John would have been dead earlier than this, to be honest. But if someone's like, oh, when he goes, I'm going after Sarah, I'd be like, ah, I woke up and I.

[A]

Heard that, oh, you probably would snap right out of that coma.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I kind of feel like after reading this book, I. I pray that I never know anybody that's in a coma. I think it's a horrendous thing. And I obviously hope and pray none of you experience something like that any, but I just. It made me think, like, no matter what, when I'm in a hospital room, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna act like the person can hear every word I say.

[B]

Yeah, that's a good thing. I mean, it's so funny. That's exactly what I was in Portland, that podcast that I listened to called Blink.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it's a 14 episode podcast, but it's basically about that this guy's in a coma and he can hear everyone. And he said he. When he came back and they actually kind of like did like, fact checking and everything lined up like he was dead. He wasn't. He wasn't like hallucinating anything. He was hearing everything. And he said it was crazy because, like, the nurses would come in and they'd just be like, don't worry, he's like. He's a goner, basically. And they'd talk about, like their hookups the night before and guys and just talking about, like, they just talk about, like, everything like right in front of him. And he was like, I'm in. I'm still in here. I'm still hearing all this.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. And have you finished that podcast?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You did?

[B]

Pretty crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, I need to listen to it. I got. I mean, I'm gonna. I'm gonna have some. Some alone time this week.

[B]

Yeah, I was like, I was, you know, just had so much time because we were only playing a game, basically. A game every other day during this part of the season. So I had so much time to walk around. I like 20 to 25,000 steps a day and two or three podcasts down.

[A]

All right, well, I'm gonna listen to it when I am in Vegas. And guys, if you're in Vegas this week, come see me at MGM at the Brad Garrett's Comedy Club. I do one Show a night, 8pm it's so much fun. And. And that Woodland State was scheduled to November 14th. I have Spokane New Year's Eve to. I can't even believe I'm talking about the winter already. We're gone a lot of October, so I don't think I'm gonna have any shows in October. But I. I'm going to try to add something in September and I might try. And if I have one weekend here in October, then I will. But we got the Seahawks thing, your big 50th. We got friend's wedding in. Our friend's wedding in Austria couple weeks. Tell us your suggestions for going to Austria if you've been. And. And Munich. We're gonna go to Munich.

[B]

If you guys know of any, like, nice museums in, like, Austria or keep it to yourself. We're just going there to drink and have good food. Okay, keep. Keep your museum recommend, but I want to know all the good beer halls, all the good local restaurants and all the good local bars.

[A]

Yes, please. Thank you guys for listening. For listening. And don't forget, we're reading the Wedding People for September. John's pick next week is your full review, which is going to be so fun. Join us on Patreon for extra content. Five bucks a month, and we'll talk to you soon.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Bye. The book list, the book lisp. The book list.

[B]

The book lisp.

[A]

The book lisp.