Super Bowl, Backhanded Compliments & Vodka Shortages

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
Episode: Super Bowl, Backhanded Compliments & Vodka Shortages
Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna

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Episode Overview

In this lively and humorous episode of The Book Lisp, hosts Jon Ryan (NFL Super Bowl Champion) and comedian Sarah Colonna share behind-the-scenes stories from their action-packed Super Bowl weekend, riff on the realities of showbiz and performing, and spiral into a hilarious exploration of backhanded compliments and awkward social interactions––all loosely inspired by the month’s murder mystery book selection. True to their natural chemistry, the episode weaves together NFL escapades, stand-up comedy life, and relatable everyday predicaments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl Adventures: Seahawks Style

• Travel Chaos, Comedy Club Gigs & Cold Season (00:20–03:35)

  • Sarah jokes about catching a cold after “five planes in three days” and the Super Bowl: “The Iowa, the five planes that I took in, five planes, three days or so, and the super bowl and all that has caught up with me. I'm a little stuffy, but I don't feel bad.” (00:27)
  • She plugs her busy stand-up schedule, noting family appearances and Midwest club stops, stressing she isn't contagious: “I took a test. It's not Covid or anything like that. It's just a little annoying cold.” (02:43)

• Comedian’s Family at Shows: The Front Row Problem (04:59–06:08)

  • Discussion about strategically seating family away from the front row at comedy clubs to avoid awkward eye contact, referencing Sarah’s mom: “I don't want to look at my mom when I act out doggy sex. Doggy styles.” (06:29)
  • Exchange about how club staff sometimes think they’re being helpful by placing friends/family up front, when it’s truly a comic’s nightmare situation.

• Super Bowl Week: Seattle Seahawks Hospitality (08:45–14:44)

  • Jon shares the team’s exceptional treatment of alumni, with all-expenses-paid trips and lavish events for not just players but extended support staff: “They brought cooks from the kitchen, they brought the security guards, the guys that run the field out front...the whole...entire hotel, 23 stories... just for the team.” (10:29)
  • Tells a comic mishap of paying his own way into a Seahawks event and being put to work signing autographs: “John ryan just paid $25. He's probably getting paid 10 grand to be at this event. I paid $25 to get into this event, sitting there signing autographs, taking pictures.” (12:32)
  • A hilarious on-the-street interview with ex-teammate Jermaine Kearse while Jermaine’s “edible kicked in”: “My edible just seriously kicked in. So he's doing an interview with me, who's clearly been drinking for a long time, and him who's, like, stoned.” (13:28)
  • Emphasizes the Seahawks’ loyalty: “I thought I'd be doing appearances...Nothing. It was just purely for my entertainment to be there, which was so nice of them to do.” (14:03)
  • On insane ticket prices: “We had good seats. We're in the eighth row, right there on the field. They were like $5,000 tickets or something, but...selling for, like $10,000...We couldn't have sat there if we just went on our own...at least $9,000 each.” (14:50)

• The VIP Experience: Pre-game, Post-game & Vodka Shortages (15:08–19:30)

  • Super Bowl parties detailed: exclusive Seahawks and Patriots tents, celebrity run-ins, and opulent amenities.
  • The one (hilarious) complaint: bar logistics and beverage snags, including Green Day missed for a vodka drink:
    “Sarah missed Green Day. She's very upset...to be clear about it...On Game day like this, we don't need a mint garnish.” (17:18)
  • Sudden vodka shortage before kickoff: “It was a kettle one stand. And...we actually ran out before the game started. I'm like, you guys know that today's the super bowl, right?” (18:46)
  • Comparison to older football venues being unprepared for NFL-sized events, with lines for snacks blocking stairways, mustard in tiny home bottles, and running out of water in the first quarter. (20:13–22:13)

• Fandom & Celebrity Sightings (25:00–26:32)

  • Brushes with Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Billy Burke, Joel McHale.
  • Notable Seahawks superfans discussed: “There's like five, like, really main Seahawks fans that are kind of famously fans. I didn't see Adam Ray. I didn't see Rainn Wilson. I didn't see Spencer Pratt—Chris Pratt. Not Spencer Pratt. Please do not get those two mixed up.” (26:05)
  • Discussion of eye-watering luxury suite prices: “A million...50 grand a seat in there.” (26:32)

• Jon Watches Football from the Stands (27:08–27:19)

  • Remarkable moment: Jon shares he hadn’t watched a football game from the stands in 23 years—usually in a suite or on the field. (27:19)
  • Sarah notes how special the day felt, being among fans and sharing the live experience.

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2. Backhanded Compliments & Social Oddities

• Book-Inspired Conversation: “Don’t Take This the Wrong Way...” (28:42–33:11)

  • The triggers: Book line about “no one ever starts a conversation with ‘Don’t take this wrong way’ and then follows it with a compliment” sparks a heated, funny riff on classic backhanded setups.
  • Jon: “With all due respect. Oh, here’s the best one: ‘No offense, but...’ I’m about to offend the out of you.” (28:42)
  • Sarah: “In stand up, people love to tell you they’ve never heard of you...people’s favorite thing. But, the one thing I think I get a lot is ‘Gosh, I don’t normally like female comedians... or I didn’t expect that.’” (29:43)

• Backhanded Scenarios and Quotes (31:26–32:36)

  • Jon tells of the worst celebrity reporter question intro:
    “She asked...‘Why don’t you have abs? If you work out so much, why don't you have abs? Someone just like, sent this to me as a thing to ask you.’” (31:26)
  • Compliment pitfalls: “If someone says, ‘You know who you look like?’...90% chance you insult that person.” (32:04)
  • Classic John Ryan self-deprecation: “There’s only one right answer I’ll take, and it’s Prince Harry...So many times when you have white skin like I do, very pale red hair, people just see someone on the street with red hair, ‘Oh, my God, that could be your brother...’” (32:48)
  • Anecdote: “Hey, Prince Harry, you!” shouted at Jon by a neighbor with mental health issues—hosts find it both hilarious and oddly flattering. (33:17)

• Rapid-fire Backhanded Compliment Examples (34:35–37:24)

  • Sarah reads a list of accidentally brutal remarks from the internet:
    • “Your haircut really slims your face.”
    • “I’m sure the food is still better than what you would have made at home.”
    • “That blouse is so nice. My grandmother would love it.”
    • The infamous “You look great for your age.”
    • “I wish I was as comfortable as you are wearing that outfit.”
    • “You seem so relaxed. I wish I was retired without responsibilities.”
  • Jon notes, “People say that to me every day.” (41:14)

• Workplace Compliments & the Me Too Effect (37:24–38:25)

  • Jon: “In corporate America now, you’re not supposed to compliment anyone on their appearance ever. Like, ‘Oh, I like your blouse today,’...Nope.”
  • Sarah and Jon muse on how only creeps ruined simple compliments: “If what you're doing is so offensive that it comes off as sexual harassment, then no, you should never flirt...you're just being a fucking creep.” (38:03)

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3. Anecdotes from Stand-up & Everyday Life

• Bar Encounters: Accidental Groping and Generational Differences (38:25–40:25)

  • Jon gets his shoulders rubbed by an older, drunk fan who then laments, “you can’t really just touch ladies out at bars anymore either...these millennials.”
  • Sarah: “Nobody wants strangers coming up and just groping them. That’s just not what anyone wants. It was never cool.” (39:21)

• Parenting, Pressure Olympics & Social Comparison (41:49–44:14)

  • Sarah on child-free lifestyle and tired parent one-upmanship: “Sometimes when a very tired parent can kind of try to make you feel like shit about yourself...” (42:29)
  • Jon’s take on stress across jobs: “Everyone thinks their job is...more stressful than everyone else’s. But I can relate to almost every job...That’d be stressful. Everyone’s waiting in line.” (44:14)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Seahawks Super Bowl hospitality:
  “A guy like me who retired eight years ago, they just called me up and say, we're paying for the entire trip. Bring your wife to an entire trip to super bowl is like $25,000. And it's like, here you go, everything's taken care of. Don't worry about a thing. And it's crazy.” — Jon (09:25)

• On poorly timed event logistics:
  “It was the kettle one stand. And we actually ran out before the game started. I'm like, you guys know that today's the super bowl, right?” — Jon (18:46)

• On backhanded compliments:
  “No offense, but I'm about to offend the out of you.” — Jon (28:42)
  “Gosh, I don't normally like female comedians...” — Sarah (29:43)

• On being mistaken for other famous redheads:
  “There's only one right answer I'll take: Prince Harry...But so many times when you have white skin like I do, very pale red hair, people just see someone on the street with red hair, ‘Oh, my God, that could be your brother.’” — Jon (32:48)

• On brutal compliments:
  “Your haircut really slims your face.”
  “You look great for your age.” — Sarah (34:35+ selections)

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Highlighted Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:27] Sarah on catching a cold post-Super Bowl travels
• [06:29] Sarah on not wanting family in the front row: “I don't want to look at my mom when I act out doggy sex.”
• [10:29] Jon on Seahawks’ inclusive event hospitality
• [12:32] Jon: Pays to enter an event, ends up signing autographs for free
• [14:50] Eighth row Super Bowl tickets, value estimate
• [17:18] Sarah & Jon lament vodka shortages and missing Green Day
• [26:34] Super Bowl suite pricing: “A million...[for] a 20 person suite”
• [27:19] Jon watches a football game from the stands for the first time in 23 years
• [28:42] Intro to backhanded compliments discussion
• [31:26] “Why don’t you have abs?” media anecdote
• [32:48] Redhead mix-ups, the "Prince Harry" story
• [34:35] Sarah reads internet’s most brutal backhanded compliments
• [38:03] Sexual harassment ruined workplace compliments
• [41:14] “You seem so relaxed...wish I was retired”—Jon says he hears this daily

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Tone & Delivery

The episode maintains a laid-back, irreverent, and bantery tone. Jon’s deadpan stories and Sarah’s comedic riffing create a space where inside-NFL stories blend with relatable everyday awkwardness. Listeners come away feeling like they’ve spent an evening at the bar with witty friends—who just happen to know half of Seattle’s sports and Hollywood royalty.

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Final Notes

While the episode only briefly touches on the month’s murder mystery book (teaser: “lady’s body hanging from a ceiling in a Halloween costume” [07:08]), the bulk of the conversation is an entertaining, personal recap of life around the Super Bowl, work-life quirks, and the artless art of the backhanded compliment. As always, Sarah and Jon’s chemistry and candor are the show’s star attraction.

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Transcript

[A]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[B]

And I'm John Ryan.

[A]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[B]

The Book Lisp.

[A]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Hi, John.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

How's the living room doing?

[B]

It's doing good. You sound a little bit sick.

[A]

I know. I have. I, I think the Iowa, the five planes that I took in, five planes, three days or so, and the super bowl and all that has caught up with me. I'm a little stuffy, but I don't feel bad. It's just sort of.

[B]

Yeah, I had that same. I had the same cold before the super bowl and it just, it's just annoying, doesn't. You don't. I didn't feel sick or anything. Just annoyance.

[A]

I know. Well, I just, I have to do shows Thursday, Friday and Saturday of this week. So right now we're recording early because I am leaving town early in the week to go to Springfield, Missouri. Springfield Comedy Club, the 12th through the 14th Valentine's Day weekend, if you will. And I just will. I've loaded up on vitamin C and I, I ate my, my White Girl packaged chicken noodle soup. Well, it's not chicken noodle. I do. It's noodle soup. It's in the package because I don't do the chicken.

[B]

Chicken dehydrated chicken that sits on a box for three years shouldn't be consumed by humans or animals for that matter.

[A]

And some, for some reason growing up, I always had that boxed soup and it's convinced, it's convinced me that it works and then I'll be better by tomorrow.

[B]

We had that as a kid as well, but I, I preferred the Campbell's in the can chicken noodle soup myself.

[A]

Yeah, for some reason I really like that packaged weird.

[B]

The, the sodium bomb, the stuff that'll.

[A]

For sure get you through like end of times kind of thing. Like, it doesn't.

[B]

There's no way that will never go bad. No. That could be good for 5,000 years.

[A]

So hopefully my tricks work. I'm going to sit in the sauna this evening and, and hopefully sweat it out because I don't want to get it to the comedy club and not be able to do meet and greets and stuff. So I think I'm going to be fine. I'm sure it's just you recover quickly. I do, but I do.

[B]

This last weekend was not good for you in terms of traveling across the country, taking five flights, then going, getting to the super bowl and the Super Bowl. We went to pregame party, then went to the four hour super bowl and went to a post game party. Then we woke up and you did.

[A]

Have a cold, so you probably gave it to me. Yes, but I will probably. It'll, it should be gone by the time I'm in Springfield. And come, don't be afraid, Come out, see me. I took a test. It's not Covid or anything like that. It's just a little annoying cold that will go away. And that happens when we run ourselves raggedy. So see this weekend and see you next weekend in Chicago on the 20th, St. Louis, the 21st at the city wineries. See you the 27th in Emmitsburg, Iowa. The 28th in Clinton, Iowa. Those are the Wild Rose Casino and Resorts. Mary Rudzinski will be with me. She's also with me this weekend in Springfield. Then I've got Boston at laughs. Boston on March 6th and 7th. And then Mary and I are together again the 26th through the 28th in Appleton at the Skyline Comedy Club.

[B]

Oh, she's coming to Wisconsin.

[A]

She is. And April 10th and 11th, she's with me again in Arlington, Virginia at the Arlington Draft House. So there's a lot of opportunities to come out and see some live standup.

[B]

And I mean, the people of Missouri. The people of Missouri have already seen you when this comes out.

[A]

That's right. I keep. I know. So we are. We recorded it. We recorded before I left because a couple things, I don't like to travel with my microphone. It's a pain. It's better just to get it done. And second, Mary and I, since Mary's gonna be with me, we're doing a bunch or a couple of our patreons. We do like video Patreons when we're together for our Are you My podcast. If you don't listen to that, it's a very fun podcast. We just talk nonsense. Started with Married at First Sight, but when it's not on, we don't talk about it. We just talk about other stuff. And then my parent, my mom and my stepdad and my aunt, my uncle and my two cousins are all coming to see me Friday night in Springfield, Missouri, because they live close by in northwest Arkansas. So I just did it. I just. And then we're gonna have brunch Saturday. So I just feel like even though it feels like I'm going to be there forever, I'm not going to have tons of free time to do Recording. So we're knocking it out.

[B]

I'm hoping the roads are good for them. Is the weather gotten better?

[A]

Weather's way better. It looks fine. I was also.

[B]

You've coached them on where to sit when they get to the comedy club, correct?

[A]

I coach the comedy club.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't let them pick. I said, listen, table for 7F for my family, please. However, I don't need to make eye contact.

[B]

So when we. When we pulled up at Trishmas, we had like 10 of us there, all of our friends, and we walked our.

[A]

Friend Trishster's comedy show.

[B]

Yes. It was a Christmas comedy show. I think the day after our Christmas party. So I had a bunch of people there, and we walk in. The guys taking a start. Taking us. I have good news. The entire front row is open for you guys. Oh, all 80 or whatever. I go. My wife's performing. Luckily, obviously, the comedy club worker. So he understood me right away. He. Oh, gotcha.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And put me stage left.

[A]

Yes. I don't need to. To see. We. We're talking about this today on radio because the comedian Kim Whitley that I was on with was talking about how a bunch of the people from the show came to see her, and then they, like, mistakenly just sat right up front because they didn't really think about it.

[B]

And a whole group of them, too.

[A]

Yeah. And she was like, don't do that ever again. And that's what I was. I was talking about my mom and. But. Yeah. Well, I think my mom is even, like, she doesn't want. She knows. She does know the rules. Yeah, she's pretty good. But I just. Because sometimes the clubs, it can go both ways. They think they're doing you a favor, so you got to tell them in advance. You go, listen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't want to look at my mom when I act out doggy sex. Doggy styles.

[B]

Or. Or if you're doing.

[A]

By the way, I'm not super dirty. It's just. No, you know, I just do this.

[B]

But also, if you do any kind of crowd work, it seems insincere if you do it to people, you know, 100.

[A]

That too. And I do like to do crowd work. And so anyway, it's gonna be fun. Hopefully a lot of you show up. Please show up, make my mom think I'm famous, and we'll have a good weekend. But this. By the time you hear this, what am I doing? I keep promoting something that's in the past. By the time they hear this. Okay, I get it. Instead, I'LL see you this weekend.

[B]

You should be think. Thanks to everyone that came up to Missouri this week. It was great. Five shows. Thank you.

[A]

Yes. But the good people of St. Louis can see me on the 21st this week, so. At the City Winery and Chicago. Okay. We should definitely listen if you're. If you're new here. We. I, as I always let you know, we don't spoil the book. This is a murder mystery book. We've got a lady's body hanging from a ceiling in a Halloween costume to start the book. And then we find out twists and turns and lots of torrents. So. I don't, I don't. I haven't gotten to the ending yet, even though I've read it before, but I don't remember the ending. I know. Well, I had to read it slower because we talk about. I read it too fast and then.

[B]

I read it too fast again.

[A]

I know. Well, then we're going to start just doing our book review. Right. And banking it right when we're done. It doesn't matter. But that's what it's about. I'll tell you more about it when we do our full book review, which is on the last week of the month, but before that, the three weeks or last Monday of the month, the fourth Monday of the month. There you go, brain. So the three weeks leading up, we just do random topics that are kind of pulled from the book, little things that we pull here and there. However, I do think before we get into that, because we were at the super bowl and now, I know it's been a week since it happened, but we should tell you about it because we got a lot of Seahawks fans, a lot of happy people. If you're a Pats fan. I'm sorry, I. Believe me, we know what it's like to. To lose. And that sucks, too. You got it. Pat's fans are going to have a good team for a while, I. I believe. Right.

[B]

Well, as long as you got a quarterback. You got a quarterback and a coach. The NFL, you just need a quarterback and a coach. If you got that, you got a winning team. And that's what New England has right now. That's what Seattle has right now.

[A]

That's what Seattle has to. Yeah. So we were excited, of course, because pretty clear that we're Seahawks fans, considering John played for them for 10 years and we love them and we were treated very kindly by them and sent there and John, tell them what you did. The night I was in Iowa, I saw some book listeners there and I was in Iowa with Mary on the Friday night and you were already in Santa Clara, San Jose area. Oh, yeah, there was a welcome party, correct?

[B]

There was a welcome party. It was this year. I mean, Paul, the Allen family has owned this team for 20 some years. They're now he has passed away. His sister's been running the team and she's about to sell a team which everyone's very concerned about and sad about within the organization because we don't know if they're going to continue to treat us like this because I don't think this happens to every other team. A guy like me who retired eight years ago, they just called me up and say, we're paying for the entire trip. And, and bring your wife to an entire trip to super bowl is like $25,000. And it's like, here you go, everything's taken care of. Don't worry about a thing. And it's crazy. So we got treated so well. Friday night there's a big welcome party. And with that, the team, they brought everybody. They bought the all, obviously the players, the, the guys on the practice squad, the guys that were hurt, the coaches, their families. They brought the cooks from the kitchen, they brought the security guards, they brought the guys that run the field out front, they brought the janitor, they brought everybody. That's how classy they are. They just brought the whole. When we went, we were going to the game, I thought there'd just be like four or five buses. They had something like 20. Some buses for family.

[A]

I know. Yeah, 20.

[B]

Some like luxury buses for family. Like the entire hotel. They booked out the entire 23 story hotel just for the team. Yeah, they had an awesome welcome party. They didn't spare any expense. And then. Well, can I tell my story?

[A]

The players that aren't at the welcome party, obviously, like someone stopped by.

[B]

Jason Meyer stopped by real quick. It was just like a real quick hello. But then on Saturday, right before Sarah got there, I have a guy that he's playing with named Ricardo Lockett. Ricardo's a great guy, not the most organized guy. So he's an event. He goes, come, come, roll by my event tonight between 5 and 6, I want as many, I want some more guys than just myself there. No problem. So he goes, it's in St. Pedro Market. No problem, guy. I got it. I get there. There's 10 bars and 20 restaurants inside of San Pedro Market.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I'm going from bar to bar to restaurant to restaurant. Is Ricardo here? Is Ricardo here? Is Ricardo here? And it's all Seahawk fans. So I. When I'm in Seattle, when I'm in, it's hard for me to go too many places. People are just like, recognizing me non stop stopping for. It's very kind, but in this environment, I'm like, wow. I'm just trying to try to get, like, find where I'm supposed to go. And it's a little bit embarrassing when you kind of. So I finally find.

[A]

You look lost and you can't find yourself.

[B]

We look lost, yes.

[A]

When he just told you. He just told you to go to an area of the city.

[B]

So I show up 30 minutes late. 5:30. I go to the front, goes, this is. To the bounce. I goes, this where Ricardo Lockett is? He goes, yeah. Oh, great. I'm supposed to meet him here. I'm going to be doing some stuff. I'm like, awesome, 25 bucks. I was like, oh, no. I'm like, like a guest. He's like, oh, I don't. I don't know. He didn't say anything. So then, you know, there's people lined up behind me like, I'm not an asshole. I waited in line and I, you know, I'm taking pictures, all this. So I'm not going to make a fuss. So I hand over 25 bucks, I go into the table where I know they're going to be, and I sit there and sign autographs and take pictures for one hour straight. Ricardo Lockett, nowhere in sight. John ryan just paid $25. He's probably paying $10,000. He's probably getting paid 10 grand to be at this event. I paid $25. Get into this event, sitting there signing autographs, taking pictures, which I'm not complaining about, but I'm just saying, like, I'm put to work for my money that I paid.

[A]

It was hilarious.

[B]

People. People were bringing me beer the whole time, which I was very grateful for. Ricardo Lockett walked in an hour and a half late, like, hey, bud, where you been? He's like, oh, what's up, man? He's like, I'm like, all right, I'm leaving now because I'm not doing this any. Jermaine Curse was there, too. The second he walked in, he's like, nah, this isn't for me. And so me and Jermaine walk out, we're gonna walk back to the hotel together. And we're walking back and a guy from one of the news stations in Seattle, like, on the street, like on that whole party street. John, John, can you do an interview? I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. Oh, Jermaine, Jermaine, grab. Jermaine just keeps on walking. He like, Jermaine, Jermaine. He grabs him. We did this interview. It's just like, you know, it's in the middle of. People are yelling and we're walking. Maybe I shouldn't say this. Yeah, he doesn't care. But I had clearly been drinking for hours. Jermaine goes two minutes before that interview, my edible just seriously kicked in. So he's doing an interview with me, who's clearly been drinking for a long time, and him who's, like, stoned. And it made for very. I hope not many people saw that interview.

[A]

It was probably a very entertaining interview, I would imagine.

[B]

Sure, it was. It was fine. It was quick.

[A]

But you guys were under no obligations other than apparently to Ricardo, but not really.

[B]

And everything we were doing was. Was legal.

[A]

Yes. You're just having fun.

[B]

It was. It was really fun. But the whole weekend was really fun. And I assumed when they asked me to go, because they didn't ask a bunch, I think they maybe asked 10 guys to go because I saw Hassle back and obviously Jim Zorn and Steve Largent. I thought they're going to put me to work. Right. When I got there, which I was 100% fine with. I thought I'd be doing appearances, all that stuff. Nothing. It was just purely for my entertainment to be there, which was so nice of them to do first for you, really.

[A]

Right. I mean, they've done so many really cool things, and we've talked about them with you guys going to Germany and we're going on a cruise this summer and all these things. But it's like, I think this was the first time you did something where you didn't have any other obligations. Yeah.

[B]

It was like.

[A]

And of course you're going to be happy to be seeing people and taking photos with fans because they're excited.

[B]

We had good seats. We're in the eighth row, right there on the field. They were like $5,000 tickets or something, but they were selling for, like 10,000 before the game. So we couldn't have sat there if we just went on our own and tried to buy tickets off a StubHub or SeatGeek. It would have been at least $9,000 each.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's just crazy. And then they had a really. The day of the game, they had all these family buses. They were running out really well. Everything's really organized. Then they had, like, an awesome pregame party.

[A]

Girl. They didn't wait on Those buses either. Like we got on that bus at 1250, I think like 1250, 1252. Because we knew it was leaving at 1 that, that, that pulled out at.

[B]

1, but I think it was off at 1. I think they started filling up the next one whenever that one was fully. When that one went to this kept on going as they filled up.

[A]

I know, but I just happened to.

[B]

Be right on time.

[A]

I just appreciate it.

[B]

But the pregame party was really fun. Then obviously the game was incredible. And then. And then because we won, the post game party was crazy.

[A]

Yes. So the pregame party was in this huge. You walk up. I mean as I was saying BEF we. We talked about this before. I don't really know on the pod, but just talking about how it's no different, no more people there than a sold out game. It's not like there's more seeds seats.

[B]

70,000 people there for a preseason game and 70,000 people there for the Super Bowl. But it just, it feels different. It feels more packed.

[A]

Yes. Because. And then walking in, they have all these tailgating events going on and then they have so well set up official Seahawks party in this big tent that you had to have credentials for. Official Patriots party in a big tent that you have to have to have credentials for. And then all this other stuff that was open to like the public to walk up. Just tons of stuff to do and people just everywhere. And now that pregame party was. Yeah, I wasn't. I mean, I wasn't. I guess I was thinking you'd probably have to pay for drinks. I mean just the way they just have everything crazy and I get everything. They make a lot of money. But I'm just saying it's. It's cool. And then the after party was ludicrous and t. Pain.

[B]

Do you want to hear my one complaint though, before we go? Ludicrous pain. When we got in, there we go. We wait in line for a drink because they're having like quite a few people selling beer. But we wanted a vodka drink.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

There's a line and there's three people working that could not give a flying about. Moving quickly.

[A]

No.

[B]

So we sat in line for 30 minutes.

[A]

I did a drink.

[B]

Sarah missed Green Day. She's very upset.

[A]

I was. I missed Green Day. I mentioned this to Mary for any crossover people. But to, but to. No, but just to be clear about it, we get it. I understand that this is how these things are and the lines are long in this. But on. As I said to my. To Mary on Game day like this, we don't need a mint garnish.

[B]

Oh my God. Spank the mint on top of my drink. Just put the alcohol in, put a little mixture in and just throw it at me and tap my card and go.

[A]

And that's the fault. That's. That's. They should, they shouldn't even be making these. But the one guy, the biggest problem was this one. He. And I also blame the customer. We were all kind of huming and ha. Because everyone's like, okay, Green Day's on. We've been standing here for a really long time and we're watching one of the guys just talk to a customer about the entire patriot season for 20 minutes straight. And I'm like, you. This guy ordered one, two rum and cokes, like get let go. So that was annoying.

[B]

Part of it, they had, they had five wells there on day of. It's like, it was, that was. Other than that, I was like, they were very prepared. But that, that one station, they were just like, what? The Super Bowls today?

[A]

What?

[B]

And then I went back for a second drink during the game because I thought I would have to wait in line. And there's like five people in line. I still have to wait for five freaking minutes. And I get to the front, I go, I'll have whatever vodka drink we're having. Like, oh, we ran out of vodka.

[A]

It was the kettle one tent.

[B]

It was a kettle one stand. And it was. We actually ran out before the game started. I'm like, you guys know that today's the super bowl, right? You guys, you guys got this event. You paid millions of dollars to have it here. And you got about two or three years ago, and now today's the day. It's like today, it's like tomorrow it's over. Yesterday wasn't happening yet. It's just fucking today. Just today. This four hour window, this is all you got. You've been waiting for years for this window. And. And you're it up. You it up.

[A]

Somebody under ordered for the super bowl because it was before the game started that they were already out, which was kind of funny. And it wasn't like it was supposed. It wasn't like it was supposed to just be pregame thing. It was supposed to be back.

[B]

They were restocked.

[A]

Oh, someone went to the supermarket.

[B]

It. There was a number of like, like bars and stuff around the area were just kind of like they just weren't ready.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's just so surprising to me. It's like you tell like I Went to this one bar and I ordered a Bud Light and they gave me like a can of Bud Light. Like, it's like someone ran to the store and just bought fucking 24 pack. The next time I go up there, they give me an aluminum bottle, like a big bottle. Like, totally different thing. And the third time I got draft, like, yes. They're just like pumping out whatever they had.

[A]

Whatever they had. That reminds, that reminds me of the time I, when I saw you play at the Coliseum right before the sofa game.

[B]

Back in the Coliseum.

[A]

Yeah. And so SoFi wasn't open yet. And the, the Coliseum hosts college games. They host a lot of things, but they just weren't prepared for an NFL game. They just weren't, they weren't prepared for whatever.

[B]

It was like 94, 000.

[A]

Yeah. And, and it was just, first of all, it's not built for it. I, I, it's a beautiful place, but just you get to the top of the stairs and then all of a sudden there's the, like, snack line is there and it basically blocks the stairs. So nobody can even, nobody even knows if they're standing in line for a beer or just trying to get to their seats. All chaos. But I just remember, I, it was taking so long to get everything, to get the beers, to get everything. So Chris Franola was with us, and Fran Jola, he, he's so n, he was so sweet. He goes, I'm going to go get you a beer because you're going to not, you're not going to see your husband play if you try to go get a beer right now, it's literally an hour. So he went to go get beers, he came back and then he said that he went, he got a hot dog. And he goes, oh, where's like, the mustard and whatnot? And this lady just points at just this little, like a little tiny bottle of mustard like that you would have in your, in your home in your.

[B]

Like, not even family size either.

[A]

No, just a mini size. And he goes, oh, okay. You guys didn't want to get like the large economy size, the big ones that maybe Costco, you didn't want to do that because.

[B]

And it was like, it was a really hot day too. And they ran, they ran out of water. First quarter, people are passing out in the stands. We have, it's a big deal. People don't even know there's a kicking net, there's two kicking nets on the sideline. That's how we warm up before we go onto the field. Like on Second or third down, we're punting or kicking that net. Then we go on the field. So we go to start the game. Steve Hosi goes. There's no kicking net like what we're about to play the NFL game. And Steve Solaris 0. Given. He just kicks like the net's not like the net is there. He is just hitting balls 40 yards up into the stands like 40 rows. Zero. He's not. He's not breaking his routine.

[A]

That is so funny.

[B]

It was. It was so him and so hilarious. But yeah, the after party, which I didn't realize how familiar I was with his song. But now he kind of comes from a day where a lot of those songs just on the radio all the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You. You'd recognize a lot of them.

[A]

I didn't make it for all of the. For I. I went to. You stayed out later than me, which is very impressive. You really. Lindsay Hauschka had mentioned she's like John's just a social butterfly this weekend. I said he really is.

[B]

I went back for an hour and talked to nobody.

[A]

That's not true. You hung out with John Schneider.

[B]

I hung out with John Schneider and Tracy.

[A]

But you know, he went. He walked me back even though it was. The hotel was basically attached. But he watched. Wants me back as He's a gentleman. And I grabbed a glass of wine and then I was like, you have to keep in mind our day started at 11am and we got up before that. But we went out for breakfast at like 11 and then got on the bus at 1. And then now it. It was. I went to. It wasn't that early. I went about midnight to bed.

[B]

Yeah, you were. You're midnight.

[A]

But. But John went back and stayed for like another hour, hour and a half. But it was. It was a really cool party. They. They did it again. It was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They don't miss a detail. There's bars everywhere, food everywhere, picture opportunities everywhere. It seemed like I think I know the players and stuff don't get there till later because they're right. It's usually. It's like people that can just go right there or there. But it seemed like. I think it's just a really big space. But it did kind of seem like people had died off a little bit earlier because. And I'm. And 11's not early when. When the game started at 3:30. So people were there because it kind of started immediately after. But it just didn't seem like it was as packed as say like the pregame party was yeah.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. I think that quite a few people. People don't realize that the. The. The San Francisco stadium is nowhere near San Francisco.

[A]

Right.

[B]

An hour and a half away. So I think a lot of the people. Some people we talk to, because there's a lot of parties in San Francisco, a lot of people stayed in San Francisco, and then they had early flights from San Francisco come Monday morning. So, you know, after the game, that's probably didn't really start till 9, but really didn't start till 10. Didn't really get going till 11.

[A]

Right.

[B]

A lot of people are like, man, if I have to be here, find an Uber, drive an hour and a half in, get home at 2 or 3, then have to be up at, like, a lot of. Got people just. I think they just didn't come well.

[A]

And people had to go in and out of San Francisco. Like, the traffic was crazy. Yeah. We were lucky that we were right. We were attached to everything. And then we just took the San Jose airport, so it was easy. Yes. We saw. We saw an old friend of mine, Jeffrey Dean Morgan. You guys know him from the Walking Dead and many other things. Denny.

[B]

Seahawk fan.

[A]

Huge Seahawk fan. I used to wait on him at Formosa years and years and years ago. And he was with his friend Billy Burke, who's another actor. So we talked to them at the pre party. We Talked to Joel McHale at the pre party. Well, you did. And then he asked you to get him a white wine.

[B]

I think he thought I was the help. I'm kidding. He said he. He said he tried to come to my Christmas. Our Christmas party, but he couldn't make it. And then I said, I'm ordering a drink. He was, you can get me a white wine.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Not make him look like an asshole and me like a dweeb.

[A]

No, it was. No, everyone was. Everyone is. I mean, we see a lot of those people.

[B]

You know what didn't see? Who? It's like, I always say, like, there's like five, like, really main Seahawks fans that are kind of famously fans. I didn't see Adam Ray.

[A]

I know, and I know he was there, but we always see him. But, I don't know, we missed him.

[B]

I don't know if he. I don't know if he's there or not, but I didn't see Rainn Wilson. Rain Wilson. He played, like, every game.

[A]

Yeah, we didn't see him at all.

[B]

And I didn't see Spencer Pratt in person. I think I talked to him. I got A picture taken with him. No.

[A]

Chris Pratt.

[B]

Chris Pratt. Not Spencer Pratt. Let's look at those two people mixed up, please. My God, it's two to very apologize.

[A]

No, it's just two very different. Two different jobs and people altogether. But yeah, he. Chris Pratt. I didn't see him either, but I think they, you know, I think some of those guys probably have like sweets and whatnot too. We roll on the jumbotron.

[B]

Yes. I looked at a suite. You know what the suite was for that game? For a 20 person suite?

[A]

No.

[B]

A million.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

50 grand a seat in there.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

I kind of like sitting the stands, like feeling like that excitement of it all. I thought that was really cool.

[A]

It was cool. I know that this is a book list podcast, but, you know, we have to tell you guys about.

[B]

But it's also about John and Sarah.

[A]

Okay. It is today. Um, but it. It was just a really cool experience and I loved watching you see it. That, I mean, I've been to games with you. I. Obviously, when we go to Seattle, they do have an alumni suite and we tend to get lucky and. And be in there. So I don't know that I've ever really sat in the stands with you. I don't think I have.

[B]

This was the first football game I've watched in My God, 2003. 23 years. First time I've watched a football game in 23 years from the stands.

[A]

And it's cool.

[B]

It's cool. I mean, I like being in my suite for the other games, but for a huge, like a huge game like that, it was really cool. We went to NFC championship game and we were in like kind of a VIP area, but the seats were out in the. Out in the stands, out in the crowd. And we sat there for about 10 minutes and it was really cool. Yes, this was.

[A]

And then you were going on the field, so then you had some fun. But yeah, it was. It was a really cool experience. So I don't think we've missed any details. I don't think anything crazy really happened. Thank you.

[B]

Thank you, Seattle Seahawks, for hooking us up.

[A]

Yeah, we had a wonderful time and congratulations to that team. And. Okay, I have a few things that I pulled up from the. From the book to spark conversations. One was just that there's. There's a time in the book that he says how nobody ever starts a conversation with. Don't take this the wrong way, and then. And then follows it with a compliment. It's always. It's always something you probably should just keep to yourself. And I, I, I wondered if there's other things like that that you can think of.

[B]

With all due respect. Oh, oh, here, here's the best one. No offense, but I'm about to offend the out of you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What I'm gonna say after that, it's such a passive aggressive like setup to what you say it is.

[A]

It's to start something with. Just don't take this the wrong way or. I don't mean to be, I don't mean this rude. You, you're about to say something rude if you say I don't mean this. I hope you don't take this the wrong way when people say that like that means you're going to take the. Right. But yeah, I don't mean to be rude, but. Or you know, in the, in the world of say, stand up comedy or. We've talked before about how people love to tell you that they've never heard of you and that's fine. Right. Like people's favorite thing. But I, the one thing I think I get a lot in stand up is. Gosh, I don't normally like female comedians or.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

Yeah. Or man, I didn't, I mean, yeah, sometimes people were like, oh, I didn't expect, I don't. Right. I didn't expect that. Or, And I'm like, what, what do you mean? This is what I do for a living. Like, I don't know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's just when you, when you start something with, with I don't, you know what, I don't usually like.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah. Or you know what? I don't, I've never watched TV or, and I've never heard of you, so. Okay, I get it. But in the, in the, just in the everyday life, when you say something, I, I think when people say you look great for.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Like, for sure. Unless I, unless I just told you, like, if I saw you, I don't know, this morning and I sounded a little bit stuffy and I said, oh, yeah, I'm not feeling great. And someone will, oh, you look great for someone that doesn't. Right. Okay. I'd maybe take that. I would rather you not even finish it with the four thing. Just you look great.

[B]

Or it's like, it's like, it's like a setup. It almost like in someone's head, it's like getting themselves off the hook for what they're about to say.

[A]

Yeah. You don't get to do that. You don't get to get yourself off the hook for. For being rude to somebody.

[B]

I saw an example of this that was like the. I, in my opinion, the worst reporting that I've ever seen in my life. This woman was asking celebrities at this point in case it was the Rock. She's asked them, like, rude questions. You tell. She wasn't like a rude, like, woman. She. But in her mind, she's like, this is just like. This isn't me asking this. This is. Someone asked me to ask you.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So, yeah, she asked. She asked like, why. Like, why don't you have abs? If you work out so much, why don't you have abs? This is just like someone. Someone just like, sent this to me as, like, a thing to, like, ask you.

[A]

Well, then don't ask it. Be better at filtering out.

[B]

Rude question the worst reporter, too, because you're just. You want to ask him something, but just get yourself off the hook. You make. You're bl. Someone before you ask.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

You know what another example of this is? It's not even. Not an example, but another someone. Yeah, real. If someone says, you know who you look like? If you say to someone, you know who do you look like? There's a 90% chance you're going to insult that person.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

It's almost never like, no one ever is like, oh, do you know you look like Brad Pitt?

[A]

Right.

[B]

No, they're like, you know who you look like? That obscure, like, character from, like, Dumb and Dumber. I think at one point he gets a. A shovel smashed over his face and he looks like he got, like, smashed by a can of. You look just like him. You saw the ginger hair and white skin just like him.

[A]

You look like right after he gets.

[B]

Hit in the face with a shovel. Yes. Like, you got like, a fire put on his face. I think at some point in the movie. And then he had red hair. He has looked exactly the same.

[A]

Yeah. John doesn't like it when. Just so you guys know, just so we're clear, when you start to. When you want to tell John Ryan that he reminds you of someone, just don't.

[B]

There's only one right answer that I'll take, and it's Prince Harry. I'll take Prince Harry. I think that's a compliment. But so many times when you have white skin like I do, very pale red hair, people just see someone on the street with red hair, go, oh, my God, that could be your brother. The guy that's 100 pounds heavier than me hasn't shaved in a month. And I Can smell them from here. We're twins.

[A]

Twins.

[B]

We're not you.

[A]

Well, I know I've told the story.

[B]

Why'd you get me started on that?

[A]

We had. We had a lady yell at him and say, hey, Prince Harry, you from this side of the road once. And it was kind of our favorite thing that's ever happened. It was great.

[B]

It was this, this, this lady lives in our neighborhood before. I haven't seen her a long time, but when she was. I'm not making light of mental illness. That's not what we're doing. But when she was on her meds, she could, like, function a little bit better. But when she was off, she kind of stand there and yell at people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So she was just kind of yelling and kind of yelling towards herself. And then we get to the light, we press the button, and then we walk across. And she was kind of quiet for a second. Then right when we got to the other side of the street, she goes, hey, Prince Harry, you.

[A]

And boy, did it make us laugh.

[B]

We were. That might have been the hardest I've ever seen you laugh. You were crying.

[A]

It was just. Well, because I was recognizing that there was a. A little bit of a mental illness. Like, I recognized that she wasn't, she didn't have her. You know, things weren't. I don't know however you say it, but I realized that there was something, you know, going on with her. And then I thought, but she's so on top of pop culture at the same time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I just appreciated it. Yeah, I just appreciate it. I just picture her sitting around reading Us Weekly and then seeing you and just getting real mad.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Now I'm just. I just actually pulled up backhanded compliment examples on. I kind of on accident, but now it's pretty funny. So your haircut really slims your face.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's not something to say. Oh, well, who would say this? This is something you get. This is called. This is a backhanded compliment. That might get you backhanded if you say it to your spouse or your partner or someone that's cooking, but it says, I'm sure the food is still better than what you would have made at home. Who says that?

[B]

That's just a straight up insult.

[A]

Yeah, that's not a backhanded. Someone doesn't know what a backhanded compliment is.

[B]

I mean, when I was playing football.

[A]

Say that to someone, that's a. That's an insult.

[B]

When I was playing football at Edmonton, I lived in A hotel that the coach of the team also lived in a hotel. And so we were always. We saw each other every day. I was always in the lounge or there was like a lot, two lounges. I was in there. And you came to visit me one time and he comes up to you, goes, hi, nice to meet you. You're way better looking than the girls John usually brings in here.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, so funny.

[A]

It was funny, but it was on purpose.

[B]

Yes, that was on purpose.

[A]

Obviously, yes, it was to make me. Lol. But yes, it was funny. And I. But I could see someone saying that to somebody and not thinking twice.

[B]

Oh, God. I'm sure it happened. Especially in the world of football.

[A]

No, these don't even feel like backhanded. These feel like flat out insults. Your Instagram makes you seem really fun. That blouse is so nice. My grandmother would love it. That's not. That's like you're just insulting someone. Yeah, I don't, but some of these are like, one says you look like you've lost weight. Which, I mean, that's a tough one because sometimes people want you to recognize if they have.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

But it, it varies. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes people struggle with their weight. Sometimes people lose weight not on purpose. Sometimes people feel under. You know, it's like, that's a tricky one.

[B]

I just stay away from it.

[A]

Yeah. I just think unless it's a friend that you are, they're openly sharing their journey with you. Right, Right. It's someone who's like, I've been trying to lose weight. I'm doing this and that. And then the next time they see you, they go, hey, I can see that you've lost some of that weight you were wanting to get rid of. There you go. That's a normal. That's okay.

[B]

You know that like in the corporate America now, you're not supposed to compliment any, any people in your office on their appearance ever. They say, don't ever compliment anyone on their appearance. Like, oh, I like your blouse today. Oh, your haircut looks great. You're not supposed to comment anyone, anything.

[A]

What about your hair really makes your face look slim.

[B]

Boom. Right, To HR office.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As you should, getting one demerit point written up.

[A]

I mean, we all, you know, some of us like to be told when we look nice, but there's the time and the place and. And just know, you know, what you.

[B]

Know, you know, who wrecked it all, you know, wrecked it all. Creepy men that. When that whole me too thing happened, the guy's like, oh, I Can't even flirt with the girl anymore. If what you're doing is so offensive that it comes off as sexual harassment, then no, you should never flirt with a girl ever again because you don't know how to do it properly and be nice to someone. You're just being a fucking creep. And now there's like, well, everyone. Everyone just should not say anything anymore.

[A]

Oh, my God. Like the other night, John and I were at Tipsy Cow, as we do, and this gentleman was. He was being nice. He was just drunk. But he, like, put his hands on John's shoulders after he found out that he played in the NFL, and he's.

[B]

Like, oh, really wanted to touch me. Really wanted. But not. Not like a slap. He, like, wanted to rub me.

[A]

Yeah. And he goes. It goes. So he's like, rubbing John's shoulders a little bit, whatever. But he's like, ah, Basically just kind. Kind of trying to be. I'm not thinking much of it because I think he's just trying to be funny. And then I was like, okay. Like, I don't know. Because I knew John was probably like, get off me now. And so then he goes, can I touch you? To me? And I go, no, I'm good. I just go. I was like, I'm good. And. And then he goes, yeah. I mean, you can't really just touch ladies out at the bars anymore either.

[B]

And I go, I think. I think he's like, these millennials or something.

[A]

Yeah, he's like, these millennials, they don't want you touching them when they're. When they're at the club or. And I went, what? I'm like, nobody wants strangers coming up and just groping them. That's just not what anyone wants. It was never cool.

[B]

Remember, there was a problem.

[A]

We were. I mean, that bartender. Remember the bartenders heard it and we were all laughing because it was just so. I don't. He just didn't even realize what he said.

[B]

I don't think the bartender gives him pretty strong hints after about 20 minutes that that guy should leave because he was sitting and really, you know, monopolizing our time. Yeah. But do you remember there was, like, a bit of a problem a couple of weeks ago, months ago, and that someone was joining the bar and touching everybody.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And at one point, they just had to be like, you have to just leave. You're like. You're creeping out all the women. You're going up to them and touching them. It's really inappropriate. I wonder if that was the guy.

[A]

It was not because the guy. No, it was a different guy. It was much older. The other guy that did that, because.

[B]

I know touchers out there.

[A]

Yeah, because the, the one that you told him to get the f out basically had pointed him out to me once before.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

After. So, um, I do want to read a couple of the other ones of this to you because it makes me laugh. You're. You're charming when you make an effort. Yeah. These are just mean. You look great for your age. We all. We all. That is a backhanded compliment. Compliment. We don't need it. And, oh, you look. Where'd it go? Where'd it go? I wish I was as comfortable as you are wearing. Wearing that outfit.

[B]

My God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's wrong with people?

[A]

I don't know. But here's one that I hope someone says to you one day. You seem so relaxed. I wish I was retired without responsibilities.

[B]

That literally. People say that to me every day. I think I tell people that every day. I'm like, I'm this relaxed. I don't have any responsibilities. I got three cats and a wife, a couple bills here and there to pay.

[A]

And other than that. And what else? Baseball teams and.

[B]

Okay, I own two baseball teams, two soccer teams.

[A]

Yes, you do have responsibilities. But it is funny because that one made me think of. You know, I, I. There's no world where I think that it's not difficult to be a parent. Right. I'm clear.

[B]

We. We've never done it before, but we know it's very difficult.

[A]

I know it's a very difficult job, I think. Good on you. I think. I can't imagine the stress. I can't. I can't. If I think my cat might not have gotten. I think if I think a treat didn't come out of his treat machine while we're gone, I stress about him for three days. So. Trying to keep a human alive, guys, I, I can't even fathom. This is why I never did it. But. So I know how hard it is. But just sometimes when a very tired parent can, can kind of try to make you feel like shit about yourself.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

And, and I, and, and there's times when I understand it or where I go, I don't know what this person's coming from right now. I try to think about that. Most of the time, I, I don't know how tired this person is from their day. If their kids sick, if there's this, if there's that, if they're balancing this, that. I get it. But it's just, it's not. It. Usually it's someone in my opinion, that hasn't had like a super rough day. They just want you to know that their life is harder than yours.

[B]

We, we often get it when we're like, oh, have you watched this new binge worthy show on Netflix? Like, I wish I had that much time. In the evening, I'm going to dance recitals, I'm going to gymnastics. It's not my fault. I pull out. Okay, like, don't you. You did it. I didn't do it for you. You did it. And now you have to pay the consequences. And taking care of this little shit for 18 years. I. Not me.

[A]

I'll be honest, I think you can probably stop pulling out.

[B]

Oh, baby.

[A]

Just kidding. No, but, but that is, that is one of those, like, backhanded things where. And it's, it's kind of. I'm trying to think of a good example, but it's some. Sometimes it's basically just saying like, well, your life is just so easy. And it's like, of course I understand that we're not raising humans. And I get, I wouldn't, I can't even wrap my brain around it. However, you can't pretend that other people don't have just other things going on in general or other stresses. And I'm not even trying to talk about myself right now. I'm just saying other people without kids, although you, maybe there's a reason someone you know and you can say shit like that to someone and then you could find out that they just can't have kids. And then you sound like a real dick.

[B]

Everyone thinks their job is also everything. Their job is more stressful than everyone else's. And when I, I can relate to almost every job. I look at almost any. Every job. The guys at pavilions, at checkout stuff. I'm like, that'd be stressful. Everyone's waiting in line. The guys in McDonald's working the drive thru window have their member. I was like, that's stressful. Guys.

[A]

The guy working at the super bowl that we were mad at. Stressful.

[B]

Oh, stressful. He. He didn't look like he had a fucking care in the world talking.

[A]

Yeah, he did. He was.

[B]

Everyone's job is stressful. So I understand it. But I think some people can't like, understand that other people also have stressful jobs.

[A]

Right. And that also goes with. That's different from the parent thing. And that's just in general. Yeah, some people just can't. They usually, you see People talk down to someone in the service industry, or you see people talk down to, like, valets and this and that. And I'm like, have you ever watched a valet on a busy night in Beverly Hills running miles to go get your car, coming back, sweating, and you're huffing and puffing because he had to wait 10 minutes, like, you know, after I just huffed and puffed about waiting at the super bowl line. But that was different. That guy was being real chatty. He went through every single play of every single game for the entire season.

[B]

About him, because he could have made some serious money last night. Like, he made a lot of money, but he could have made double the money by slinging double the drink.

[A]

I know I always say, crank him out. Get. Keep it moving. Get your tips. Um, but people behind us were actually loudly sort of like, well, guess no one's in a hurry. Like, it was the whole. It was a whole thing because this guy was just chatting, like, chatting it up.

[B]

It was $36 a drink. So if you tip 20% that the guy's making $7 a drink, I would just be slinging those fricking things out as quickly as possible.

[A]

And also because I, you know, me, I don't want to talk to anybody about the whole. I don't. I don't want to have a chit chat. I want to. I want to keep it moving, keep. Get you back to your seat, out of my face, all. The whole thing.

[B]

Whole thing, yes.

[A]

That's why Jeffrey Dean Morgan was a regular at my bar. Him and Billy Burke. I. Yeah, he's. I think he's sober now, but they. All those. All those regulars back in my Formosa day. From Larry Drake. Rest in peace. He was older gentleman that used to come into my bar. All of those guys.

[B]

Matthew Perry was a real regular. He wrote in his book that he wanted to be rich and famous just so he could go to the Formosa every night.

[A]

Yeah, I did see him a couple times, but I think I saw him in there when I wasn't where I saw him in there. Like when I went in there before I was worked there.

[B]

Okay, well, all right.

[A]

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