The Book is Always Better

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
Episode: The Book is Always Better
Release Date: January 20, 2025

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Introduction

In the latest episode of The Book Lisp, co-hosts Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna dive deep into their ongoing discussions about book adaptations, personal anecdotes, and their experiences amidst recent events in California. The episode, titled "The Book is Always Better," offers listeners an insightful and humorous take on the challenges and joys of being book enthusiasts and podcasters.

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Casting Choices for "Evelyn Hugo"

A significant portion of the episode revolves around casting decisions for the character Evelyn Hugo from the book "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo". Jon and Sarah explore potential actresses to portray Evelyn at various stages of her life, debating the nuances of age, ethnicity, and the actor's ability to embody Evelyn's complexity.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah (08:13): "It's like a cheesy Snapchat filter."
• Jon (09:00): "But Zendaya was my first pick as well."
• Sarah (10:52): "She is a very good dramatic actress, too."

Key Points:

• Age Appropriateness: The duo discusses the difficulty of casting an actress who can convincingly portray Evelyn Hugo from her youth (16 years old) to her later years (79 years old).
• Ethnic Representation: Emphasizing Evelyn's Cuban heritage, they highlight the importance of selecting an actress who authentically represents this background.
• Potential Cast Members: Names like Rita Moreno, Gloria Estefan, Ana de Armas, Sandra Bullock, Emma Stone, and Jessica Chastain are mentioned as fitting choices for various roles.

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Impact of Recent Events in California

Jon and Sarah share their personal experiences during recent natural disasters in California, describing the evacuation warnings and the fires that threatened their residential area in Sherman Oaks.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon (02:51): "We were ready to hit the road. And luckily the evacuation warning zone stopped pretty much right before us."
• Sarah (03:15): "Our hearts are with all the people who are really going through it right now."

Key Points:

• The couple recounts the stressful nights leading up to the evacuation.
• They express gratitude towards first responders for their tireless efforts.
• Sarah provides information on how listeners can help those affected by the fires through reputable organizations.

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Book vs. Movie Adaptations

A central theme of the episode is the discussion on how certain books translate into movies or series, with Jon and Sarah weighing in on various adaptations.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon (28:21): "Forrest Gump was a better movie than the book."
• Sarah (26:37): "It could be a limited series because then you could do it in these bulks of her husband and time periods."

Books and Adaptations Discussed:

1. Forrest Gump

   • Jon: Believes the movie surpasses the book, citing Tom Hanks' performance as a key factor.
   • Sarah: Admits ignorance about the book but acknowledges the movie's excellence.

2. The Perfect Couple

   • Jon & Sarah: Both find the movie disappointing compared to the book, critiquing elements like the beach dance scene.

3. Slumdog Millionaire

   • Jon: Prefers the book over the movie, finding the book more outlandish and detailed.
   • Sarah: Enjoys the movie but acknowledges differences in experiences between reading and viewing.

4. The Book of Mormon (Musical)

   • Jon: Recalls attending a performance where attendees promoted the musical's superiority over the book.
   • Sarah: Enjoys the humor and acknowledges its success despite differences from the source material.

5. White Oleander

   • Sarah: Praises the book but finds the movie mediocre, particularly critiquing Michelle Pfeiffer's portrayal.

6. She's Come Undone by Wally Lamb

   • Sarah: Highly recommends the book, expressing a desire to revisit it despite it not aligning with her usual genres.

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Personal Anecdotes and Experiences

Beyond book discussions, Jon and Sarah share personal stories that add depth and relatability to their conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah (42:11): "Lucille Ball was, is one of my idols."
• Jon (45:26): "Michael J. Fox... everything that he's gone through with Parkinson's and... raised millions of dollars."

Key Points:

• Interview Aspirations:

  • Sarah: Wishes to interview the legendary Lucille Ball for her trailblazing contributions to television.
  • Jon: Desires to interview Jackie Robinson for his impact on baseball and societal change, and Muhammad Ali for his profound influence both in and out of the ring.

• Personal Encounters:

  • Sarah: Shares a heartfelt moment when called upon to ask Carol Burnett a question on a talk show but was overcome with emotions.
  • Jon: Remembers his disdain for how Canadians are highlighted in media, reflecting on his perceptions over the years.

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Community Engagement and Future Plans

The hosts emphasize the importance of their listener community, encouraging participation through platforms like Patreon and their Facebook group, Book Listeners. They tease upcoming content, including a full discussion and review of "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo," set for the following week.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah (50:25): "Yes. Please."
• Jon (50:45): "Buckle up. Let's go."

Key Points:

• Patreon Incentives: Access to video recordings, bonus content, and interactive features like casting suggestions.
• Upcoming Episode: A comprehensive review of "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo," promising an in-depth exploration of the book's themes and characters.
• Listener Support: Encouragement to leave positive ratings and reviews on platforms like Apple and Spotify to help grow the podcast's reach.

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Conclusion

In "The Book is Always Better," Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna deliver a multifaceted episode that blends book discussions, personal narratives, and community engagement. Their candid conversations about casting for book adaptations, experiences during California's natural disasters, and reflections on book-to-movie transitions provide listeners with a rich and engaging listening experience. As they prepare for their next deep dive into "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo," fans can look forward to more enlightening and entertaining content from The Book Lisp.

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Transcript

[Sarah Colonna]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[John Ryan]

And I'm John Ryan.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[John Ryan]

The Book Lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Hi, John.

[John Ryan]

Hey. How's it going?

[Sarah Colonna]

It's great to see you. I just saw you in the kitchen, and now I'm seeing you on my screen, but still in the kitchen while I'm in the office.

[John Ryan]

I'm seeing my new haircut on the screen. I like it.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know, it looks really good. For those of you that are watching this on Patreon, John just got his hair did today, and he's feeling himself.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

That'S it. Sure.

[John Ryan]

What? Yeah. Well, not as much as this guy's feeling himself. Oh.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, my goodness. Wow. That was.

[John Ryan]

He wanted to be. You want to be. You wanted to be in the podcast today.

[Sarah Colonna]

He's our podcast. For those of you that just are listening. He just panned to Ralphie, who gave us a real stink face and apparently doesn't feel like being on camera and. Okay. It is week three of your January Book Lisp, where, John, you're so excited about next week, aren't you? To talk.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's. There's gonna be a lot to unpack.

[Sarah Colonna]

There really is. It's a. And it's a long book. I think it's going to be a long episode next week, but that's okay because that's what happens when you have a lot to talk about.

[John Ryan]

Like you said, it kind of. It starts off slow, but the last, like, however, last, like 20 of the book is like a hundred things happened.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's true. And even. Even if we just had to name all our husbands, it would take a. A minute to get through. But I'm excited to talk about it. I know the listeners are loving it. I'm so. Sometimes it annoys me because now I'm worried. What if my picks don't match up to yours? So far, they did. On a quiet street. Everyone loved it. And the new wife. I'm more than halfway through and I'm loving it. That's by Sue Watson. That's our February book. And, John, have you picked the March book yet or not yet?

[John Ryan]

No, not yet.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, so he'll announce that next week because we know everyone. Some people like to be very much ahead and. Yeah, this is so much fun so far. It's been a very weird week for us in California, obviously.

[John Ryan]

Yep.

[Sarah Colonna]

But we are here. We are safe. This is. We're recording this a few days before the podcast comes out. I don't know. Things change. And we had a couple hairy nights, but we are kind of in the residential area of Sherman Oaks, and so far, so good as a couple hairy moments.

[John Ryan]

Last Friday was a little hairy. We. We were packed up and ready to go. Cats drugged. We were ready to hit the road. And luckily the evacuation warning zone stopped pretty much right before us, like literally four blocks away from us. But it was really moving very close. And they got control over the fire on the top of the ridge, which really helped because if it came over that ridge, it was coming right at us.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's fun to sit with John when that came on, because he said, well, if that crosses that ridge, the whole city's wiped out. And I was like, yeah, okay. And so that night we drank wine. Anyway, we are very lucky, clearly, in comparison to so many people who have. We know people have lost everything. There's tons of people that have lost everything. There's displaced humans and animals. And if you're at all interested in helping in reputable places, I have a list. I have posted things on my Instagram and also my stories. And that's what we'll say about that. We. Our hearts are with all the people who are. Are really going through it right now. And thank God for all the firefighters and the policemen and the National Guard and the first responders who are just tirelessly protecting all of us at all costs. So, yeah. Anyway, Evelyn Hugo, What a lady. I really. I know we're not talking about the book yet, so what we thought would be fun, John thought, let's talk about a. There was. We got a little inspo from the book list spinners, our Facebook group, the listeners, which you can join. And then also if you want to join Patreon, that's where you can watch the video and see fun things like our cat's ass. And also we do bonus content there where we do a little just 20 minute things. John and Sarah hit record where it's not necessarily fully book related, but we also have been adding short stories to that. So we did the gift by Frida McFadden. This month we did the sixth wedding, which was the little book aft that a short story Ellen Hildebrand wrote after 28 summers. So. And then we're gonna. I think we're gonna do. Oh, no, the Gift. Yeah, that was Frida McFadden. And then there's the housemaid's wedding that we found out about. So I know a lot of you guys have read the Housemaid, so we're probably gonna do that pretty quickly, probably in the next few weeks as a short story on Patreon. So we have some fun stuff there. But we also are just here for you guys. And John thought, let's cast. That was the inspo from Book Listeners. Let's cast Evelyn Hugo, which was way more challenging than I thought it was going to be. And then also we thought we'd talk about other books that have. Because this has been. This is being made into a movie, I think a Netflix movie. Is that right?

[John Ryan]

That sounds about right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

So we'll see how close our picks are for how we cast the movie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, somebody, I, I In the listeners, one person cast Mo'Nique as Z. And then I couldn't see anybody else. And.

[John Ryan]

Oh, that was my pick too. But then I then I realized might be a little bit too young. Yes. So then I went with Cynthia Rivo.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's a good.

[John Ryan]

Wicked. Yeah. Because I thought that I said Zediah right away. That was my first pick. But then I was like, she's 28. And I think that Mo'Nique is kind of like late 30s.

[Sarah Colonna]

I think she's. Yeah, mid to late 30s. I think 35 maybe is what it said sort of when she. Okay, well, doesn't matter.

[John Ryan]

Zendaya was my first pick as well.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's so funny because I couldn't see anyone after that. But that's also, that's the tricky thing. So Monique stays one age, but the rest of this book. And for those of you guys that aren't through it, but even if you're just a few pages in, you know, it goes from Evelyn Hugo is a 16 year old. Yeah, yeah, 14 all the way to 79. So I don't know because it's so to me, when they, when they age, a really young actor, it's so creepy. Yeah, right. Yeah. And when they try to make a really like an older actor look super young, it's also creepy. I mean, you can't. You would definitely have to do various actresses playing different stages. And then maybe because I was even thinking, do you just, you cast it someone closer to the age of, of Evelyn Hugo as she tells her story and then everyone else is not her.

[John Ryan]

I bet they cast like someone for her, like, you know, very young age, like 14 to 22. And they have like. Because it seems like the bulk of the story happened when she was like 22 to 45. That was like the heyday of her career. So they have one person do that, and then they have someone older, like, telling the story from her bedroom.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. And then they use her maybe for when she's in her 50s on, but. And then just age her up a little bit. Something.

[John Ryan]

I don't know.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, there's some really good makeup artists out there for movies, but every once in a while, when they try to age somewhat up, you just. It just creeps me out a little bit.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's like a real. It's like a real bad filter or something. It looks.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it does. It looks like a. Like a cheesy Snapchat. Snapchat filter. So the challenge, too, with Evelyn is keeping a big part of her story is that she's Cuban, too.

[John Ryan]

Yes. And then I know that, but when I'm reading the book, all I can see when she's telling these stories is Martha Stewart. Because Martha Stewart is like. I know, like, Martha Stewart can't play her.

[Sarah Colonna]

But.

[John Ryan]

But in my head, like, she's kind of like that. Like, badass bitch doesn't really give a fuck about anyone. You know, she's kind of in it for herself. It doesn't really care what you think. As she said in her. As you said in her documentary, they asked her about her relationship. Because I don't care about your feelings. I don't want to hear about your feelings. You know, she's like the original Fry voice.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Because that's all I could think of when I think of Evelyn. Hugo was like a Martha Stewart, and Martha Stewart was like a model when she was younger and the whole thing. And she just. I don't know.

[Sarah Colonna]

I love that it can't. Of course she can't play her. And I don't even think she's an actress. And also, for the sake of the story, they certainly have to keep her a Cuban American. But I also. Or at least Latin American. Right. They have to keep that part of it. True. This actress can't be just a white lady. But it is when you hear her tell the story. That's what it is. You're right. You picture just this kind of Hollywood actress. Just. I. Whatever. It doesn't matter. But I was thinking Rita Moreno would be a good one for Evelyn as playing her as the older.

[John Ryan]

At first, almost forgetting that she is, like, Latin. In my head, I wanted Meryl Streep.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

But then Gloria Stefan. Gloria Estefan. Oh, yeah. That's who I came up with.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wow. Okay. I'm. I'm this. See, we can just have fun with this. We get to do whatever we want. We're just. We're just having. We're just casting it, and we don't know what we're talking about, but that's pretty fun. Gloria Estefan. I never. I. I don't even know if she acts either. But, you know, a lot of people. A lot. A lot of people do and they shouldn't, and a lot of people do, and then they turn out to be good at it. And you. You never expected it because Rita Moreno is certainly. Oh, I think she's in her 90s, so she's older, but I do. She doesn't. She could definitely play in 79 or so now. Do you know who Ana de Armas is?

[John Ryan]

No.

[Sarah Colonna]

She is, I believe, Cuban American. And she's beautiful. And she is on. I forget I should remember, but I've seen her a bunch, and I think she would be good to play her sort of in her 30s. Then they could probably age her up a little bit for a little bit later on, and then. And then someone else takes over.

[John Ryan]

Isn't it Morena, background part?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. Yeah. She is not Cuban, actually. So if you guys know who Marina Baccaran is, she is a friend of ours. We went to her wedding. She is. And of course, I'm like, she's from.

[John Ryan]

She's Deadpool's girlfriend.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. She's Brazilian and she's gorgeous, and she's a fantastic actress. And I did a movie with her called Back in the Day. That's where we met. It was really silly. You can watch it on itunes. I think if you just want to watch a fun, silly movie. My friend Michael Rosenbaum wrote and directed it. Anyway, she's awesome. And yeah, I could totally see her because also, she has that sort of Hollywood glam look too. Right?

[John Ryan]

Yep. I like it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Now, Iva Mendes.

[John Ryan]

I think you're just lifting off Latin actors now.

[Sarah Colonna]

You got it. It's. It's tricky because she does have to. She can't just be. Can't be Meryl Streep. Right. But. But it is when you read it a certain way. But then, I mean, it was such a big part of her story that she squashed that down. But nobody in Hollywood knew that she was Cuban American at all. Right. They didn't know that she was Cuban.

[John Ryan]

Right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

So it's like she often had times where she's, like. Felt like she was, like, betraying her heritage.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

Because she wasn't celebrating enough and she was kind of, like, almost trying To. I don't want to say fake it, but just kind of almost act like she wasn't.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. What about for. For Celia? Did you think of anyone for Celia?

[John Ryan]

I. I did because I think that a character that kind of could. Because Celia dies when she's like, what, 50?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I think in her.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

50S.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. So I. Maybe someone maybe a little bit older than that, but could still play that age, was Sandra Bullock.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's interesting. See, I was thinking more of. I don't hate that. I don't love it, to be honest. But it's. It's your pick. You get to do what you want. I kind of was thinking more of like an Emma Stone.

[John Ryan]

Okay. Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Or Jessica Chastain. But I mean, you would have to. They. Because I do feel like both of those women could probably pull off playing her for a decent portion of her. Of her life. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I guess you'd probably need someone that could go. Could play five years or 10 years younger and 10 years older.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. From.

[John Ryan]

From their actual age.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And I think both of them could do that with the correct makeup and. And whatnot, because that, to me seems a little. I just picture them as. I just picture her as this sort of bombshell, elegant. And that's where I guess just Jessica Chastain really comes to mind in that situation for some reason.

[John Ryan]

What about Harry?

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, who did you have for Celia? Nobody.

[John Ryan]

I said that I wasn't that one that kind of took it back and.

[Sarah Colonna]

Then I. I know. Well, it's because I blocked it out that you said that, because I didn't like it. But it's okay. You're allowed to do. So who did you ask?

[John Ryan]

Harry.

[Sarah Colonna]

Harry. I had a weird. I had a difficult time with him. I thought about. Do you know Matt Bomer is.

[John Ryan]

Let me look him up.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I think he. He reminds me of somebody that would be Harry. You guys can just Google while we.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I know. That is.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And then I also put down Jonathan Bailey, and then. And then I forgot who he is, but. Oh, from. He's Bridgerton, so I think he's an English actor. But I. There's always this. This sort of. I feel like Harry had some sort of dapperness about him. Is that the. Is that a word?

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did I just make it up?

[John Ryan]

No, he was. He's a dapper fellow.

[Sarah Colonna]

He was a dapper fellow. I don't know if dapper is. So who did you have for Harry?

[John Ryan]

Ricky Martin?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, my God. That is so. No, it's so funny because I Did think of Ricky Martin a few times, and I was trying to figure out who he should play. But then I started to think he might even be a good. Maybe Mick, because he. And what was it White. Was it White Lotus, where he was kind of a goofball and sort of naive. Right. And then I thought of how Mick was kind of naive, but then he would be teased too old, I think, for that. I think it was. I think that was a little. He was a little bit younger. Her Mick era. I forget.

[John Ryan]

Right? Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

But that Ricky Martin is. Harry is my. Might be my new favorite thing. It doesn't fully make sense, but I like it.

[John Ryan]

It makes up.

[Sarah Colonna]

I like it a lot more than sand. Yeah, it does make up for your Sandra Bullock. But speaking of Mick, I wanted to cast him just for fun, even though I know we weren't doing all the husbands. We were just kind of doing the main characters. Even though I guess they're all ultimately Maine. But Harry Styles is Mick. Come on.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, that'd be good. Oh, babe. It wasn't White Lotus's Palm Royale that Ricky Martin.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, right. Thank you for correcting me before.

[John Ryan]

It is easy to get those mixed up, though.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know they had a similar.

[John Ryan]

They have similar look to them.

[Sarah Colonna]

They had a similar look to them. And I'll tell you what, if. If Evelyn Hugo was not Cuban American, I'd be putting. I'd say Carol Burnett right. In that role.

[John Ryan]

Right.

[Sarah Colonna]

As Evelyn Hugo. She amazing because she actually. She's a very good serious actress, too. But that's just me saying.

[John Ryan]

But. But to be fair, you'd put her in any role anytime.

[Sarah Colonna]

So I would actually. I love her so much, but she is a very good dramatic actress, too. And she's also. She could. If you watch all the old episodes of. Of Carol Burnett and stuff, like, they would glamour up for these different. The. The famous one of her walking down with the curtains made into a dress. All the things. But anyway, that's just a fun one. That is not possible if that's. If the book was a different book.

[John Ryan]

Basically rewriting history.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Well, we can do what we want on our podcast because we're not pushing for it to really happen now. I did think about Don a little bit, Don Adler, because he does make. He's the biggest influences her husband, I feel. And then he does make it, and then he comes back again later. Did you have any thoughts on who could play Don?

[John Ryan]

Not really. What. What do you think his age group would have been?

[Sarah Colonna]

It's kind of all over the place. Because. Well, no, I'd say probably. Probably like late 30s to 50s. Probably was his journey in the book.

[John Ryan]

Because for some reason in my head he's like Christopher McDonald, but Christopher McDonald's like 70.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, my God, I love Christopher McDonald so much. John knows that if you have.

[John Ryan]

But like, like, like him from Happy Gilmore, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I guess I never thought of him as goofy as that, but I like it. You know, my all time favorite Christopher McDonald role is definitely Thelma. And Louise plays the husband. Thelma's husband. You get your butt back here, Thelma, now. Well, I just ain't gonna say. Yeah, he's basically just like a mean version of himself and Happy Gilmore. But one time I was working at this production house in. It was. I was working at a restaurant, but I was also working at this. It was called Moving Images, I think. And it was actually, it was a. It was a Mexican commercial company. Like they produce Mexican commercials for Mexico. And they went. I don't remember why I was working the front desk. I guess I wasn't making a very good living at. At my waitressing job. So it was my side hustle. And then, God, it was a shitty job. But they. One time Christopher McDonald pulled up on his motorcycle and he walked in to our. Our office and I was sitting at the front desk doing nothing is what I did there. I still have no idea what I did there, but. And he. I was so excited. I was like, oh, my God, are they using him for something? Is he producing something? Is he directing something? I mean, this is like, to me, he was such a big celebrity because I loved Thelma and Louise so much.

[John Ryan]

Y.

[Sarah Colonna]

And so I was talking to him for a minute and then he's like, oh. He's like, so where's Matthew? And I'm like, matthew? And he's like, yeah, Matthew, the owner of this company. I go, oh, you're in the wrong building. And so he just happened to accidentally show up in there. And he was supposed to be next door doing something else.

[John Ryan]

Oh, that's good.

[Sarah Colonna]

But it made me happy.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, well, of course it would.

[Sarah Colonna]

I thought for Don Adler, maybe like a John Ham. Is that weird?

[John Ryan]

Okay, yeah, that'd be good.

[Sarah Colonna]

You can age him up or down, I think.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, he can go either way.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then a real random one. But stick with me on this. It's not as random as your Sandra Bullock caller. Go ahead, Harry Connick Jr.

[John Ryan]

Okay. Harry Connick was kind of on my list too. He could play somebody, just somebody.

[Sarah Colonna]

He could be any of the husbands. Yes, yeah. Well, who was that? Well, we'll talk about it more in depth about the husbands next week, but I think that's kind of fun. Someone asked me what role I'd want to play. I was like, I don't really know if there was one for me. Who could I play? Could I play any of the. Can I play one of the. One of the actresses that wasn't Celia or her? Who's the one that she calls to to have her spill the leak that her and Harry are together? That one.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. What about, like, the. The. The housekeeper? The woman that always lets Monique in?

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, I'll be the housekeeper. I want to be anyone. I just can't remember. I think the housekeeper was Hispanic because she was. Because the housekeeper. Right. I think she was Hispanic because she was judging her.

[John Ryan]

For now, she wasn't. You're pretty racist, so.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, no, because, remember, she said she spoke Spanish to her at the beginning and it surprised her. Is that. Is that the same one? Or maybe.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, because she was speaking Spanish in front of her, kind of like insulting her, being like, yeah, Evelyn Hugo's crazy. And then she spoke to her like. I know what you're saying right now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, but that's not. Yeah, that's early on, though.

[John Ryan]

That's early on, but I'm saying, like, that's. And the one that, like, let Monique in right time. Who's that one?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, I don't know. But that's my role. It.

[John Ryan]

That's your role?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's it. Your role. That's me. I'm taking that role. Okay. I thought you were talking. Yeah. Louisa, no.

[John Ryan]

Yes. No, I agreed really quick on that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Guys, it doesn't matter. We do the full review next week, and that's when we get everything really our ducks in order and make sure we say people's names right. But I don't care. I'm taking that role. Okay, well, in our casting, you hear.

[John Ryan]

Ralph is listening to our. Our casting. We pretty much named a castle. Cost about $150 million.

[Sarah Colonna]

But go ahead and take it. Not me, guys. I am. I come in pretty cheap. I'll do it for just a few sandwiches.

[John Ryan]

Right now. I feel like every. Every movie that's made right now has to have Glenn Powell in it.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know.

[John Ryan]

I feel like Glenn Pal being it. And I feel like Sydney Sweeney has to be in it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Who else? Zendaya has to be in it. Ariana Grande has to be in it. Oh, everyone else.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's the only. It is. It is so annoying how everyone Gets to be. At least most of people get to be in everything. Nicole Kidman, she always. She always has to be in everything.

[John Ryan]

Oh, she has to be on speed dial. You gotta get her in it.

[Sarah Colonna]

She's got to be in everything. She's just. She just. I don't. Listen, I don't blame anyone for wanting to work all the work and take all the jobs, but stop taking all the jobs.

[John Ryan]

You know who else could play one of the man is Live Leave. Live. Leave. Live.

[Sarah Colonna]

Scriber Shriver Shriver. Lev Shriber.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Nobody really knows how to say it. We call him Day Ray Donovan in this house.

[John Ryan]

Yes, exactly.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. There's a lot of people that have that sort of old Hollywood air about Travis.

[John Ryan]

Kelsey has to make a cameo. I mean, Hollywood didn't do Hollywood good.

[Sarah Colonna]

Travis Kelsey just get. I love. I. You know, he's a wonderful football player. I'm happy for him and Taylor, but he needs to. To. He needs to stay out of my movies. I just.

[John Ryan]

I think we're gonna get Travis Kelce burnout. I love the guy too, but I think we need Kelsey Brothers burnout.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I mean they're dominating and they should dominate while they can. For sure.

[John Ryan]

I agree with that.

[Sarah Colonna]

But like, everyone doesn't. It's not easy to act. And I say this as an actress. I think I'm a very good actress and I will die on that hill because I know I'm good at it. So I get I. When I watch things and it's just someone just gets a role just because of their name. And I understand someone's like, this is going to attract more people to the film and we want to get eyes on it. But like, you don't need Travis Kelce in your movie.

[John Ryan]

We don't need Kim Kardashian in our movies.

[Sarah Colonna]

You don't need Kim Kardashian in your. I think she was an American horror Story and some voiceover work on one.

[John Ryan]

Of the cartoon ones too.

[Sarah Colonna]

She probably did good with that annoying voice of hers. But as long as she played someone annoying. But I just. What, like, we don't all have to do everything. Not every singer can act on every. And some of them first truly can and are very good at it and shock you. They come out and Ricky Martin was great in Palm Royale. Even though I said he was in White Lotus, he was great in Palm Royale. We kind of forgot about that show, didn't we?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, we, we. Well, we got a lot of time now. We can. We can watch it all tonight.

[Sarah Colonna]

Kind of feels like we're back in Covet over here now. Another thing that we were talking about, though, John was just talking about other books that have been made into movies like this one's going to be because there's. Now that I've read this book and I really love it, I have some pretty specific feelings about them turning it into a movie and.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Messing it up.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

I kind of feel like it could be a series instead. Like a limited series because then you could do it in these bulks of her husband and time periods.

[John Ryan]

It's a lot to cover in a movie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And we don't need any more three hours.

[John Ryan]

We don't need a three hour movie. Netflix, please.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, we're done with those.

[John Ryan]

We don't need that silliness. But it's really easy to screw up a movie or screw up a book when you make it into a movie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. And a series.

[John Ryan]

You know what I'm saying?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

But yeah, you can really screw it up.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes, you can. And how. Speaking of that, there was for. But this was a limited series. But since you are the Ellen Hildebrand expert in the family and of our listeners. What. How did you feel about the Perfect Couple? I mean, I know how you felt, but tell them.

[John Ryan]

I was, I was pretty like average on it. I was pretty medium. You know, I thought it was. I think that if I'd never read the book, I think I probably would have thought it was okay. But after having read the book, I just didn't, I didn't quite think it delivered.

[Sarah Colonna]

It didn't seem like it gave the book. It did the book justice. The book was a little more. I don't know. It didn't nobody. The, the Nicole Kidman of it all was weird to me. I, I don't, and I, and I. Now I've brought her up twice. I have no beef with Nicole Kidman. I mean, I, She's a very talented woman. But it didn't me, it didn't fit to me. Right.

[John Ryan]

No. Just didn't quite work. But.

[Sarah Colonna]

And for some reason I really hated their dance on the beach.

[John Ryan]

The dance on the beach was the number one thing that threw me off right off the bat. They do like a hundred person on the beach. That fits nowhere into the movie whatsoever.

[Sarah Colonna]

Or into the show. It didn't make any sense. It was like, why are we watching this?

[John Ryan]

A choreographed dance to start off the show.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And, and, and then they would, I see interviews with them and some, some of the people and they'd start doing the dance. I'm like, oh, really? The Macarena out here? We don't need to do this anymore. We don't need to do this now. What were, what are some books that you think turned. Were turned into movies and were either good or bad? Which one?

[John Ryan]

I think the number one on my list that was a better movie than it was a book was Forrest Gump.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. It's so interesting you said that, because when I was kind of looking up, doing my little podcast research, believe it or not, we prepare for this a little bit. I did not, I'm ashamed to admit, as the co host of a book club podcast, that I did not know that Forrest Gump was a book before.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it was like a standardized rating in Canada. I think we had to read it in 10th or 11th grade.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, like before. I think before the movie, even with the movie being. I don't know. But we, we had to read it. The book was, you know, it's like so outlandish the way he's like, he meets like three presidents. He's like all star football player for Alabama. He serves in the war, he has purple hearts, he world champion ping pong player. The book goes like, even farther. Like he's even more like. It's even like more outlandish. Like he's doing more things than even like that are. Even like, even though Forrest Gump's not believable. Although when they, when they came up with that movie, they did a survey and something like 50% of Americans thought it was based on a true story.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh.

[John Ryan]

Oh, sweetie.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, sweetie.

[John Ryan]

Maybe it wasn't 50, but it was a number that was upsetting to me about how many people thought it was based on a true story. But yeah, the book was like, even like more far fetched. Whereas, like, part of you believe that some of it could maybe happen in the movie, but. And then like, the movie had the advantage of having Tom Hanks.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. You know, I mean, you kind of can't go wrong with Tom Hanks.

[John Ryan]

Right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Like, he could basically do anything.

[John Ryan]

He really could.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, one, I think that did it. It's did the. The books justice. And I've. Was one of the best movies. And also maybe just because my dad loved it so much, because he thought he was. Just because we're. We have a little Italian in us. He thought he was the Godfather, so he's just a sports editor, never had any mob experience in his life, but like to make meatballs, drink wine, watch the Godfather and pretend he was somehow part of it. But the Godfather Was. Was. Is one of the most classic, I think, examples of a book that was turned into a movie very successfully.

[John Ryan]

Your dad very much celebrated, like, the stereotypical Italian culture part of his heritage.

[Sarah Colonna]

He sure did. But I'll tell you what, he made some real good meatballs.

[John Ryan]

Even when he came over to his house, he wouldn't call our cat Ralph. You go, hey, Ralph. Hey, Ralph. He was a mobster talking to our cat. Hey, Ralph. Capiche?

[Sarah Colonna]

That's true. What's up? Give me some more. Give me some more movies.

[John Ryan]

Well, I think the obvious ones that everyone talks about are like the Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit. Those were all big ones that became like monster, monster movies. But were all books beforehand.

[Sarah Colonna]

Those are ones you talk about because.

[John Ryan]

No, the only one that I read, I read all seven Harry Potters and I watched none of the eight movies. But what I heard, they did a pretty good job making. Because, I mean, the budget must have been in the billions for those movies, even though it was 20 years ago. Yeah, they had huge budgets, but for some reason, I refused to watch the movies. I've read all the books.

[Sarah Colonna]

Have you. Have you read all the books twice or just one time?

[John Ryan]

Just once, like a normal person on that one.

[Sarah Colonna]

I've never. I've never read any Harry Potter books.

[John Ryan]

Not one, I think. I don't know what your problem with it is. I don't think you'd like it. So I don't want. I'm not encouraging you to. To read it by any means, but you have, like, a real attitude about it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, I know that they're really well written. I know that they're hugely popular. I. I don't. It's just not like I don't. I'm not interested in that world. What was someone saying the other day? They were talking about how, like, fairy porn is pretty big now.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's fairy.

[Sarah Colonna]

What'd they call it? Fairy something.

[John Ryan]

No, it was. It was something like that, though. But it's basically fairy porn. And they showed the graphic, like, page after page of fairies. Just. I don't know what fairies do with each other. Lick each other's wings? I don't know.

[Sarah Colonna]

Lick each other's wings? Yeah, because it's so. And I don't have. This is not a judgmental thing on people that are into fantasy or any of that stuff. It's just never been my thing, and now I'm afraid to pick it up because what if it becomes my thing?

[John Ryan]

Right.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, what if all of A sudden I'm talking to you about fairy porn instead of psychological thrillers.

[John Ryan]

I would like you just to not talk about fairy porn ever again, even if you don't read it. I don't remember where I was going with that. I just really don't want you to read fairy porn now.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's fair. I don't think you're gonna have to worry about it.

[John Ryan]

Here's the thing. I started reading Harry Potter not because I was interested in it, not because that's my genre of book whatsoever. It's usually not my. It's usually the genre book I make fun of. But it was so big in pop culture, like, it's still like Jeopardy. Questions. People talk about it all the time that I felt like I needed to read it just so I had that knowledge with me.

[Sarah Colonna]

And I think that's fair. And I think that I don't get those answers on Jeopardy. Right. And I.

[John Ryan]

Well, you wore the sorting hat. You would be a Slytherin. Slytherin. And you're a Muggle. The Slytherin. Muggle. You'd have a tough time at Hogwarts, girl. Buckle up. It's going to be a bad eight years.

[Sarah Colonna]

Hey, babe.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know that. You know that like, you still want me to want to have sex with you, right?

[John Ryan]

We already did today. So I'm off the hook already.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, you know. Okay. Off. Off of different. Different books, different things. One of. Remember you and I bonded over, not over realizing that we both love this book. Book or. I think I remember I met the author at a charity softball tournament.

[John Ryan]

In the Art of Racing the Rain by G. Stein.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And you.

[John Ryan]

We were playing in a. A charity softball game at Safeco Field in Seattle, a celebrity softball game. And they introduced it. G. Stein. And you went up to him. Like, I loved your book. And I didn't. I never heard of it. And then I read it and it's like. It got me into a movie too.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

And it was a good movie, but the book's phenomenal.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I felt like the. The book is so good and it's so heart wrenching and just so well done. And then sometimes when you try to give an animal a voice in a book, and I mean in a movie, it just. It just. It just hits different.

[John Ryan]

So the whole. The whole book is narrated. The whole book is told through the eyes of their dog.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Enzo was his name Enzo?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

The whole story is told by Enzo. Like for. No. Like, so the way he sees the family, the way they. He gets Divorced and the child grows up and he tells the whole story through his lies, what he's seen and just, just. That sounds awful, but it's done so well. It's amazing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, it's done really well. It's. It's a fantastic book. I kind of want to reread it.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I could reread that.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know what? Another book I that I forgot was turned into a movie that it's not at all like having Evelyn Hugo, but it has Evelyn Hugo vibes and also was part of. It was shot in the Formosa, which if you guys listen to a couple episodes ago I talked how I worked there and that's a place that Evelyn mentions that she started going when she was like 16 and is LA confidential. Oh yeah. Remember that movie?

[John Ryan]

No, I know the name of it, but I don't. I've never. I never saw it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, you've never seen it. That feels like something we could watch together.

[John Ryan]

I'd never seen Thelma and Louise until I met you, which was a big mistake. That's a great movie.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's such a good movie. And what's funny is I was. I put. I was thinking of. I don't know if anyone's ever. If you guys have read the listeners have read Divine Secrets of the YAYA Sisterhood. That was a really good book. And it was turned into a movie by the woman Cali Corey, who directed Thelma and Louise. She wrote the script for YAYA Sisterhood. And I did not think that movie. It's been a minute since I've seen it. So if anyone disagrees, no problem. We're allowed. You're all allowed to disagree with us on everything, including our bad casting earlier. But except for Harry Connick Jr. Just randomly being in this movie, which you have to just support that for us. But I don't. I didn't think that was a very good movie. And I just remember loving that book so much. And have you read that one? Yeah, it's probably. Even though you like a lady themed, not like a novel, a book that is more directed at women a lot. I'm not. Right. You do. I mean even Seraphina Nova Glass in our interview with her, if you haven't listened to that. The author of On a Quiet street. We have that. Even she was like, yeah, my. These aren't. Men aren't usually my target audience. There's. Everyone knows there's target audiences for these things. So anyway, I do still think you would really. I think you would really like Divine Secrets of the Yaya Sisterhood. It's a good book.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I'll read it after the New Wife.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, yes, yes. First we got to get through the New Wife February pick. Don't forget. Go ahead.

[John Ryan]

Here's a book that's going to be very controversial because this movie was one of the top movies in the last 20 years. And I didn't like the movie because I liked the book so much, which was that. Slumdog Millionaire. Oh, it was a massive, massive movie. And I think if I hadn't read the book before, I would really like the movie. But I was like, oh, I just. It's the nerdiest thing to do. Be like, book was better.

[Sarah Colonna]

But no, it's not. Mostly. It's usually true because it's so hard to translate some of these things, but I never read Slumdog Millionaire, but I thought it was an excellent movie, so it wasn't. That's the thing. A lot of times, people. The difference between reading a book and then going to see the movie and then being a person that just went to see the movie, it. It's a different. A totally different takeaway.

[John Ryan]

Totally. Do you remember when we went to the Book of Mormon? The play, the musical. Book of Mormon.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

And all the. All the Mormons were up front handing out the book and they're yelling that the book is always better. And, you know, they had another Bible or whatever.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's right.

[John Ryan]

They're LDS people.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

You know, the Book of Mormon.

[Sarah Colonna]

That was fun. Yeah, that was fun.

[John Ryan]

They had a good sense of humor about it.

[Sarah Colonna]

They did. I thought that was fun. I forgot about that.

[John Ryan]

Do you want to talk about our third topic before we go?

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, I want to mention one more.

[John Ryan]

Okay, go ahead. Sorry.

[Sarah Colonna]

Book that was turned into a movie. Because I feel like a bunch of our listeners probably read the book. And again, it's another one I haven't seen in a minute, but it's called White Oleander.

[John Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And the book is phenomenal. I loved the book. The movie was kind of meh. It was Michelle Feifer and Mai Feifer. It was Mai Feifer. Remember when you said Mai. Michelle Feifer instead of Mai Feifer? John said something about 8 mile once, and he goes, oh, yeah.

[John Ryan]

And then he mentions, yeah, lose yourself.

[Sarah Colonna]

He was like that. He mentions Michelle Feifer. I'm like, no, Maai Feifer, because he was in the movie.

[John Ryan]

Michelle Pfeiffer.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, same, same. But, yeah, White Oleander is a book. And our listeners also brought up one of my favorite books of all time, the other day. And I do think it should be a pick. And maybe I'm gonna have to go rogue because it's not my genre in this podcast, but the She's Come Undone by Wally Lamb is an excellent book, and I think I read it probably three times when I was younger, and then I haven't read it in a long time. But it's a very. It's a great book, and I think you would really like it. And even if our people have already read it, I think it's a good. Kind of like Evelyn Hugo, a lot of our listeners had already read it, but it's a good one to revisit for people that loved it. So. Yeah, that's not, I don't think that was turned into anything. I just, because I brought up white oleander, I thought of that and my brain just does things. John, what was the third topic you wanted to discuss?

[John Ryan]

Because Monique, it's kind of her dream to interview Evelyn Hugo. I thought you could say, who is someone that you could, if you could interview one person, one person dead, one person alive, who would it be?

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, the first person that comes to mind that I would want to interview that is dead would be Lucille Ball.

[John Ryan]

Oh, nice.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I'm not that deep that I want to interview, like a dead president or anybody. Yeah, like that. But Lucille Ball was, is one of my idols. I just, I could, I. She. It was a trailblazer and just an icon. And I, even though I guess at my, you know, my mom used to watch it, therefore I would. And then the reruns are forever. So it's just one of those. She's just one of those women that I adore. So she would be my alive one. How about you? I mean, my dead one.

[John Ryan]

Well, it would be two. Here's the story. Mine would probably be Jackie Robinson, just because he, I love baseball and he was such a trailblazer, you know, broke the color barrier, did all those things. I mean, I can't imagine what it was like back then, traveling across the south, across anywhere in America, anywhere, being the only black player on a team. Just, I don't know. I think he was just, you know, he changed the sport both, like, off the field and on the field. But my other one was Muhammad Ali. And the story about that is that your dad, we're talking about him again. He interviewed Muhammad Ali. And I talked to about this. It was a couple Thanksgivings ago. And I said, so you got to, like, ask him a question. Like, you know, I thought like a media scrum he's like, no, I got to have a sit down interview, one on one with Muhammad Ali for 30 minutes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. It was like incredible.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. And I was like, greatest athlete you've ever interviewed. He's like, greatest human being I've ever met. Like, he spoke that highly of Muhammad Ali, so I thought that was so cool because it was like he kind of got to live that dream that, you know, like if you asked anyone right now, it'd be a pretty high percentage of people would want to interview Muhammad Ali.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Living. I don't know.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, speaking of that though, we. I just have to say, because my dad, his. Because of that, he had this photo of Muhammad Ali that was hung in every single house that he lived in. And he moved quite a bit. That's what happens when you're married four times. You got to move. Gotta move sometimes. But I said, good way to see the country. You're like, oh, shit, I gotta get out Laguna Niguel because Carol still lives down the street, so. But he had this photo of Muhammad Ali always hanging in his homes and, and actually at his last house, they didn't have it hanging up at near the end for some reason. I don't remember why. Right.

[John Ryan]

I don't know. It was in the office though. Or was it?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, yeah, no, maybe it was. Yeah, I think. Well, we were going through his stuff and I said, can I take that? And she said, of course. And so now it's hanging in our gym, which I wasn't. It's like right by the treadmill and, and. But it's. I mean, we use our gym a ton. We're in there all the time. We wanted to make it a, A place that we enjoy.

[John Ryan]

So when your stepmom came over here and saw for the first time, said that's the perfect place for it. Yeah, she loved it. So it was, it's very in the open. It's very. Means a lot to you and means a lot to me as well. So.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, but that's really cool. Okay, so what about Alive?

[John Ryan]

I think maybe Michael J. Fox.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's a great one. Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Canadian and just, you know, as a child. Starred in like all, a lot of my favorite movies, Back to the Future, all that Family Ties, favorite TV show back then. And then just everything that he's gone through with Parkinson's and you know, obviously raised millions of dollars. Just all the stuff that he's done, I. That's, I think that's who I'd like to interview.

[Sarah Colonna]

I always forget that he's Canadian, but John always remembers who's Canadian and who's not.

[John Ryan]

It's like the rule. If you're Canadian, you have to remember who's Canadian. I swear to God, you. You sit and watch TV with any Canadian, they point out every Canadian that comes on tv. Any sporting event. They point out every Canadian. It's really. I didn't realize it because I was always that guy. Then when I sat beside a Canadian in the U.S. i'm like, you're annoying. Shut up. I don't care. Like, I didn't realize how annoying I've been for the last 15 years.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, I. Who is my alive person? Well, it's not going to be a surprise. It's going to be Carol Burnett. And again, I feel like I'm not as deep a thinker as you when it comes to who I'd want to interview. But she also a trailblazer. A woman who has done everything. She's had the perfect career and trajectory. She's done. I mean, she was. I keep using trailblazer, but clearly that in television, with her show, she's done Broadway. She's. I saw her in Moon Over Buffalo on Broadway. She was fantastic. She's done serious movies. She's had a resurgence again. She's written books. She's worked with everybody. She's worked with everybody.

[John Ryan]

Didn't you already kind of interview her?

[Sarah Colonna]

I didn't interview her.

[John Ryan]

I know, but kind of.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, so I. A friend of mine was working on a talk show. Which one was it? Queen Latifah. She was working on Queen Latifah's talk show. And she. Carol Burnett was gonna be a guest. And she said, do you want to be in the audience? And basically, I didn't even get to go backstage, but I was just in the audience. And then she's like, I'll call on you to ask her a question. And I had a question all prepared. And then when I stood up to ask. This is not that long ago. This was post Chelsea lately when I was with you. Right. So it's probably like.

[John Ryan]

I don't know. I don't think we were together yet. I think it was like, right before that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, so it was like 2013, 2014. If I googled Queen Latifah's talk show, I'd figure it out, but I'm too lazy for that. And I don't want to distract the. The people watching with my googling. I've already done that with looking up actresses and books. So anyway, she. They called on me And I have a prepared question. And then because Carol Burnett literally stood up and looked at me and was all her attention was on me, I started crying and I couldn't get my question out. And I don't.

[John Ryan]

You never got it out?

[Sarah Colonna]

I think I got it out, but I don't even remember what it was. It was all just like a.

[John Ryan]

Did they cut it from the show?

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't probably. I don't. I think it was. I don't even know if it was really going to air during the show or if it was kind of what she used to do on Carol. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But I started crying. I think it did actually air now that I'm thinking about. And I might have even had my Invisalign in. I mean, I was a mess, but. But then I did see her do this thing at this theater here in LA that she interviewed Tim Conway for his. He had a book coming out. So she. It was like An Evening with Carol Burnett and Tim Conway. And I didn't embarrass myself or ask any questions, but I just got to go through the line and because he sign. He was signing books and she was out there and so I technically got to meet her, but she didn't look at me and say, are you that weirdo from the Queen Latifah Show? Thank God.

[John Ryan]

Well, that's good.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Well, that was fun.

[John Ryan]

Yes, it was.

[Sarah Colonna]

Forgive us for our casting. I feel like. Feel like we probably could have done better. And by that I mean I'm still.

[John Ryan]

I'm still standing behind my Ricky Martin pick.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, I'm behind it. I'm just. I agree. No, we did okay. We did okay. I think the list. I'm excited to see the listeners ideas. I know that there was a thread, it might have got lost. Add to it though, I'll pin it to the book listeners and you guys can start adding your cast to it on Patreon. You can always comment there too. And we. Again, $5 a month if you want to join Patreon. You can watch the video of the podcast as well as subscribe bonus content. And the best way to help us if you can't do that and to support us is to give us a quick 5 star rating on Apple or Spotify, wherever you listen. And a little quick review that says we're just amazing.

[John Ryan]

Yes, please.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes. And Canadian, one of us. Canadian, Canadian says your John's your favorite Canadian next to Michael J. Fox. Thank you for listening. Don't forget that next week is your full Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. Discussion and review.

[John Ryan]

Oh, baby. Buckle up. Let's go.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't even know if we're gonna have enough time. I mean, we're gonna have. It's gonna be like a long. It's gonna be a long podcast, but you'll be ready. And we'll have some wine, probably from a. From the Twisted Roots Winery that was sent to us. And follow us on Instagram at the Book Lisp. And thank you for listening.

[John Ryan]

Bye.

[Sarah Colonna]

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[John Ryan]

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[Sarah Colonna]

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