What Jon Forgot

Summary

Podcast Summary: "What Jon Forgot" – The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna

Introduction In the March 3, 2025 episode of The Book Lisp, hosts Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna delve into their first week of discussing the novel What Alice Forgot by Lisa Jewell. As a weekly book club podcast, The Book Lisp alternates monthly between Jon’s romance selections and Sarah’s psychological thrillers, fostering an engaging mix of literary discussions and personal anecdotes.

Discussion on "What Alice Forgot" (00:50 - 05:00) Sarah enthusiastically introduces What Alice Forgot, expressing her obsession with the book. She highlights its captivating storyline and well-developed characters, particularly focusing on the protagonist, Alice, who experiences memory loss after a spin class accident. Sarah remarks, “It's a really interesting story already so far, and really well done. And I'm super into it” (05:00).

Jon concurs, appreciating the depth of the novel, stating, “I always look at all books like it's deeper than it's supposed to be, but it's like a deep book” (12:30). They both agree that the book’s exploration of memory and identity resonates deeply with their personal experiences, setting the stage for their discussions in the following weeks.

Personal Anecdotes on Memory and Concussions (05:00 - 25:00) The conversation shifts to personal stories, particularly Jon’s experiences with concussions from his football career. He shares a poignant moment from a game in 2015 where he was knocked unconscious, leading to significant memory loss. Jon reflects, “I remember the first memory I have after it was in the locker room” (40:09), emphasizing the long-term effects of head injuries on memory.

Sarah relates to the theme of memory loss, discussing her own struggles with remembering dates and events accurately. She mentions, “Sometimes I feel so disconnected to the past that I almost sometimes think that's it” (46:52). Their exchange highlights the podcast’s central theme of memory, both in the context of the book and their lives.

Trivia Night and Social Interactions (05:00 - 19:00) Jon and Sarah recount their experiences attending trivia nights, humorously critiquing the intelligence of their team members. Jon shares a memorable moment where a team member incorrectly answered a trivia question with “Antarctica” instead of “Algeria” or “Argentina” for the most populated country starting with 'A’. Sarah adds levity by describing their interactions with older friends, saying, “Like my, like you are so dumb” (19:02).

Their stories underscore the challenges of social interactions and memory, tying back to the book’s exploration of forgetting and recalling past events.

Surgery Stories and Anesthesia Preferences (25:00 - 34:00) The hosts transition to discussing their experiences with surgeries and anesthesia. Sarah shares her ordeal with neck surgery, expressing mixed feelings about the procedure: “When I came out of it, I was like, kill me. Why did I do this?” (33:09). Jon relates by mentioning his mother’s knee surgeries without anesthesia, highlighting different approaches to medical procedures.

They humorously debate the merits of anesthesia, with Sarah preferring to be fully anesthetized during surgeries to avoid discomfort, while Jon shares his indifference. These personal narratives offer listeners a glimpse into the hosts’ lives beyond book discussions.

Memory Enhancement and Social Media Interaction (34:00 - 44:00) Jon and Sarah explore the concept of memory enhancement, fantasizing about merging their brains to improve memory retention. Sarah muses, “Maybe I just wonder what it is” (44:05), while Jon humorously suggests they could share a single brain. The conversation reflects their ongoing exploration of memory’s role in personal identity and relationships.

They also discuss interactions with listeners, encouraging feedback and engagement through Patreon and social media platforms. Sarah mentions, “List of shows that I've watched since you've been gone” (36:41), indicating their intention to involve the audience in future discussions.

Conclusion and Future Topics (44:00 - End) As the episode wraps up, Jon and Sarah acknowledge their deviation from the main topic but express enthusiasm for future discussions. Sarah teases upcoming deep dives into Alice’s forgotten memories and their implications, ensuring listeners that spoilers will be reserved for the final week of the month.

They conclude by reiterating the importance of listener support through Patreon and encouraging ratings and reviews on platforms like Apple and Spotify. Both hosts express their excitement for the next episode, promising more insightful and entertaining conversations.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Sarah Colonna (01:19): “I think I had a little bit of seasonal depression... I'm just a lady who does better when I have sun shining on my face.”

• Jon Ryan (12:30): “I always look at all books like it's deeper than it's supposed to be, but it's like a deep book.”

• John Ryan (40:09): “I remember the first memory I have after it was in the locker room... It was a bad one.”

• Sarah Colonna (46:52): “Sometimes I feel so disconnected to the past that I almost sometimes think that's it.”

Key Takeaways

• Memory as a Central Theme: Both the book and personal stories revolve around memory loss and its impact on identity and relationships.

• Personal Connections: Jon’s experiences with concussions and Sarah’s struggles with memory offer real-life parallels to the book’s narrative.

• Humor and Relatability: Their candid and humorous storytelling makes complex themes accessible and engaging for listeners.

• Upcoming Discussions: Future episodes will delve deeper into the book's themes, with spoiler-free discussions spread throughout the month.

The Book Lisp continues to blend literary analysis with personal anecdotes, creating a dynamic and relatable podcast for book enthusiasts and fans of Jon Ryan and Sarah Colonna.

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Transcript

[Sarah Colonna]

Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.

[John Ryan]

And I'm John Ryan.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.

[John Ryan]

The Book Lisp.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Ryan. Hi. How. Hi, John.

[John Ryan]

How you doing?

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm good. How are you? We actually haven't seen each other in, like, a week.

[John Ryan]

A week. Yeah. But I'll be home tomorrow morning.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, John's coming home tomorrow morning. We're gonna go to a friend's 50th birthday party. We're looking forward to that. And then you're going. John's in Phoenix. For those of you that remain on the edge of your seat of where. Where we are at all times. John's in Phoenix enjoying his spring training time. And I can't wait to go next weekend with you and sit in the sun and watch baseball. It's been so sunny here in California lately. And I realized, like, I think I had a little bit of. And, And I know, guys, I know I'm being over the top when I say seasonal depression, because it's. I know how many people are actually, like, cold, cold, cold, not California cold. But I'm just a lady who does better when I have sun shining on my face.

[John Ryan]

Same.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. With lots of sunscreen. Samesies.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Don't forget that we. You can listen to us on Patreon. We do. You can watch the video there. Of course. You can also just listen. If you just want to use Patreon for the bonus content, you can just listen there. I mean, you can watch us, but you can also turn your phone over and not look at our faces if you don't want to.

[John Ryan]

Rude.

[Sarah Colonna]

But we do bonus content, and it's on the 5th, the 15th and the 25th of every month. And so it's only $5 for all that content. And it's on the 5th and the 25th, we just do a fun podcast called John and Sarah Hit Record. Sometimes book stuff comes up, but nothing new that you would have to add to your reading list. And then on the 15th, we do a short story, and we've done a couple Frida McFadden's We've done it Ellen Hildebrand ones. You can, if you join. You go back and get all that. I haven't announced what our short story is for March yet, because we didn't decide yet, did we?

[John Ryan]

No, I was. I was looking at some short stories, though, and I have it narrowed down to talk to you about.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. By the time you hear this, it will probably already be posted in Patreon as a, as just a post telling you what the short story is. So just ignore what I just said because you'll probably already know by then because we should let you know asap. It's only like we try to do like a 70, 80, 90 book page at the book page book. Good Lord. Lordy be Lord it be at the most and so that you know, it's just a little extra thing for you to read. And then of course you can listen to it whenever you want because it just lives there on Patreon. And if you live in Everett or Enum Club, John and I are going to be there together. I'm going to be performing. He'll be at the meet and greets with me March 14th and 15th. He'll also be in Montana with me at Missoula. In Missoula and Bozeman. And that is on April 3rd and 4th, a Thursday and a Friday the 3rd in Missoula and Friday in Bozeman. And all the tickets are on Sarah colonna.com John I'm excited to go to Washington. I know we haven't, we haven't been there in a while. It's obviously John lived there for a long time. I partially lived there for a decent amount of time. And it's so much fun going there. It's just, just like a little piece of our hearts are there. And I'm really excited to go to Montana because I've never been.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I know. If anyone lives in Everett wants to give us a lift from Everett Enumclaw, you know, DM us.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh my God. You should see us try to figure out the logistics. Now John is very good at road trips and logistics and everything. But what the problem is, he's, he's got to go with me on this one. And I, I don't like having to rent cars. I don't like having to drive. I like. But this play, Everett to Enumclaw, there's, it's, it's what, hour and 15 minutes or something?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, something like that.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. So, I mean, you kind of have to rent a car and drive. Unless, unless one of our listeners wants to pick us up and take us.

[John Ryan]

The big problem is then we can't drink. Well, what if one of us can't drink?

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, it's not, I mean, you wouldn't drink. We leave in the morning. It's not that. But then it's yes. Afterwards because after the show, we gotta.

[John Ryan]

Drive somewhere close to the airport.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And. And you like to go to a fun. You know, you like to go to the fun little bars in the towns that you perform in after the shows. It's just. It's just part of. Part of the charm of this. This glamorous career of mine.

[John Ryan]

Yes, it is. It's the best. It's the best part. We. We wasn't there like a little, like a. I think it was called the Independent. Was that what it's called? There was like a brewery in Everett that we went to after one year last year. And they just let me do whatever I wanted. I think I was bartending for half it. They just let me do whatever. Yeah, go back there.

[Sarah Colonna]

I think the. Yeah. Enzy Beer company or something. We'll look it up because we are getting in the night before and then and kind of chilling during the day in Everett, so.

[John Ryan]

Oh, we stayed in Everett the night before.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, staying there the night before. Two nights.

[John Ryan]

Do it up.

[Sarah Colonna]

We're gonna do it up. We're excited.

[John Ryan]

Do it up.

[Sarah Colonna]

Also, this is week one where it's what Alice Forgot is by Leanne Moriarty. And I'm. Okay, first of all, I'm obsessed with this book, John.

[John Ryan]

It's good, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Excellent pick. If you are new here, quick breakdown is we. We don't talk about the book in detail until week four. So you have the entire month. If you're. If you're reading along, if you're reading ahead, if you're reading behind, doesn't matter. We took. We don't talk about the full book until week four. And then weeks one, two, and three, we talk about things that we thought of, stories that came from topics in the book, which today will be some memory discussions. And then April book Sarah's pick. Just for those of you reading ahead, those of you that want to get overachievers. Overachievers getting it from the library. I did announce it in our book listeners group, and that's on Facebook and I. And I posted on Instagram, but it is what Alice. I mean, Jesus Christ, I'm turning into Alice right now. Um, Seriously? I. It is. Then she was gone by Lisa Jewel. It is. I'm. I love it. I know that a few people commented that they had read it. A few people commented that they had read what. What Alice forgot to. And they get excited. The good thing is, if you've already read it, you get excited. You kind of refresh your. Your. Your book brain when you're listening to the podcast or some people like to. I know one person is like me. They're like, oh, parent. According to Goodreads. I read that already and I didn't even know it. So sometimes you go back and reread and don't even remember kind of what was going to happen in it. But it's a. It's a very good book, and it is. It's been out for a while, but I wanted to pick it because I. I love it and I hope to introduce people to Lisa Jewel, if you don't know her. Speaking of authors, babe.

[John Ryan]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Did you see on our Instagram who posted that she wrote, listened to our podcast and is now a new listener?

[John Ryan]

Susan Watson.

[Sarah Colonna]

Mrs. Sue. Sue Watson, who wrote our book from last. From February. It was the name of it. The New Wife.

[John Ryan]

The New wife.

[Sarah Colonna]

I really am turning into Alice. But I didn't fall and hit my head.

[John Ryan]

She listened to our podcast and she wrote that she liked it, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes, she wrote. She commented and said that she thought it was great and that she is now a new listener. So that's really cool. I'm gonna. We're gonna read more of her stuff. Definitely. Because I really enjoyed that book.

[John Ryan]

It was a really good book.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Did you send her our Patreon information to sign up?

[Sarah Colonna]

Could you imagine if I was like, what up, Sue? Five bucks you can join Patreon.

[John Ryan]

Oh, here. Here's a story kind of like that. We own a baseball team called the Portland Pickles. Very popular team. Really? Well. So we reached out to the Savannah Bananas and said, hey, would you like to collaborate with us? We've done. Collaborated with a lot of other teams. Done all this. The owner wrote us back and said, if you'd like. If you're interested and you'd like to attend one of my seminars, here are the dates. Now, this is why I hate the Savannah Bananas and their fake ass baseball. I mean, that. The guy's such an obnoxious piece of shit. I can't stand the guy. Yeah, no, he's awful. He's like a positive pos.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, why? He wrote back and said, if you want to attend one of my seminars, here's the thing.

[John Ryan]

If you want to learn from me, here's one of my seminars. I'm like, no, dude. Like, we're just like, we're both. We both have baseball teams playing the same level. We're both popular. Like, if you want to do something, but if you don't know, no problem. But don't ask if we want to come to you.

[Sarah Colonna]

One of your seminars and also you. But you have to say you are not at the same level because the Pickles.

[John Ryan]

Oh, because we play real baseball.

[Sarah Colonna]

You play the bit.

[John Ryan]

We played real baseball.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, Savannah Bananas are popular and it's fun. The guy doesn't have to be a D bag about it because especially thing if you want to learn from me. Because there's not that he should be learning. He could be learning from you. You guys have made you and your. And Alan, that's his bit. John's business partner have, Have. Have turned the Portland Pickles into just this huge success story in Portland. They even had a documentary on MLB TV a couple weeks about it.

[John Ryan]

You're a good hype man.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know how I get mad at people when they. I'm very protective.

[John Ryan]

The guy's probably worth a billion dollars now, but he's doing better than us. But whatever. You could be a little more respectful.

[Sarah Colonna]

We're worth 2 billion.

[John Ryan]

We are worth 2 billion. Take your fake baseball. Shove it up your ass.

[Sarah Colonna]

Fixing my hair in case for the people that are watching, as I saw there's something going rogue up there.

[John Ryan]

You're having a good hair day.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know what? I just got a. Thank you, John. I just got a haircut. And I told her that I was sick of my. Sick of my hair and sick of my face. I was having one of those days. And she did a little extra around the face to sort of give it a little shape. See, we talked about a shag for a second, and then I got nervous and then she said, yeah, but not like the long shag.

[John Ryan]

I don't know what that means.

[Sarah Colonna]

Sha. Like think for a faucet.

[John Ryan]

I thought shag meant like people from the UK when they have sex, they want a shag. You want a shag, baby.

[Sarah Colonna]

They did. Oh, that was a really good accent.

[John Ryan]

Was it?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Thank you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, are you doing that in case Sue Watson's listening?

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Take it with a pinch of salt. Mean.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's not bad. It's not your best accent, but it's not your worst.

[John Ryan]

I. I barely have a good English accent. Like, North American accent, babe. I. I can't.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. I'm sorry. So here we are. Week one. What? Alice forgot I'm obsessed. I. I keep reading. I. I haven't. Since you are out of town. Sometimes I stay up later. It's just. I don't know what it is, but I. It's just like for some reason, I don't. I guess because we usually just go up to bed together. And then I'll just sit down there kind of like. I don't know what else I'm doing. I'm just gonna sit on here, watch tv, and. But then I go up and I read. And then I realize all of a sudden it's midnight, which is way past my bedtime. Way past. I'm a 10 o'clock girl. 10:30 and so now. But I keep. It's one of those page turners. Because I want to know what happened. I don't know who Gail is yet. I assume it's probably not what she thinks she is, who she thinks she is now. But it's just a really interesting story already so far, and really well done. And I'm super into it.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, I love it. It was really. It's a lot, I think. I always look at all books like it's deeper than it's supposed to be, but it's like a deep book.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I feel like it's probably going to get even deeper. I really relate to Allison. Like in her spin class, though, even though she doesn't know she likes it, that starts off at the very beginning. I don't feel like I'm ruining anything for anyone.

[John Ryan]

Class.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. She goes to her Friday spin class and hits her head. And that's where Alice forgets, I think.

[John Ryan]

10 years of her life.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I keep thinking there's got to be something else that also happened that had her lose it before. But based on everyone's reaction, I realized it's just from the spin class. And I thought, you know what? There's a few times I probably could have fallen off the bike in a spin class.

[John Ryan]

Whoa. It's pretty hard to fall off a bike in a spin class, by the way.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's a good. Actually, that's a good point. If we do a little hole in the story. Because you. Your shoes are in.

[John Ryan]

Your shoes are pretty locked in.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. You just brought up a hole in the story.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. I mean, it's hard. Amy Schumer has a movie. It starts off the exact same way, by the way, where she's in a Soul cycle class and falls off a bike.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right. And interesting, because you are now maybe in. In what I was forgot. She's doing the thing where her feet are in cages in tennis shoes instead.

[John Ryan]

Of the poor people spin people. That's been at the ymca.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's not poor people spit.

[John Ryan]

I know. I'm joking people.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, but it's. It's not. It's not very. Since she's supposed to go Every weekend is an advent. Avid spinner. Even though she doesn't remember it, I would assume she's got the regular shoes. Because people. You putting your feet in the cages, you just can't get the same thing going.

[John Ryan]

When I. When my sister found out. My sister. Sister used to go to spin class at ymca and when she found out I had my own spin shoes, oh, she made fun of me. Like, oh, do you take your own putter to mini putt? Like, it's not the same. That was her reaction. No, it's not the same.

[Sarah Colonna]

You want your own shoes. You don't want to rent them.

[John Ryan]

If you're spinning without spin shoes, it's completely different. You're not really spinning. It's different. Like when you put your foot in those cages, it's not the same.

[Sarah Colonna]

You just can't go because, I mean, I don't know how many of you guys have been to a Soul Cycle class. And so they're obnoxious. I didn't expect it to spin. Speak about spin. But hey, it's the beginning of the book, so we might as well. It is off the book, but it is. They are obnoxious, but if you go to the right teacher, they're super fun. I used to go all the time, as John knows. I have. We made friends with. I made friends with it. We made friends with an instructor, Edward. We love him so much.

[John Ryan]

You've made friends with multiple instructors?

[Sarah Colonna]

I have a what? Leslie, One of my good friends. I mean, she was invited to our wedding. They couldn't make it, but she. She came to my bachelorette party and she was my instructor at a place called Lotus Kitty. But then. Yeah. And Soul Cycle. I. That is weird. Am I weird?

[John Ryan]

No.

[Sarah Colonna]

Is that weird to me?

[John Ryan]

When you're. When you're grown and you live in la, you don't. It's. You don't make friends like. Like. And we don't have kids. Like, everyone makes friends with, like, their kids. Like, friends, parents and shit like that. Yeah, Awful. But that's how adults make friends. And we don't have kids. We don't have any kind of, like, social things that we do other than go to the bar. So are all our friends come from working out or from drinking?

[Sarah Colonna]

That's a good point, because I don't. Yeah, you make it sound so sad, but I guess that's true. It's not like we take pottery classes or anything.

[John Ryan]

Well, like, I guess everyone makes friends. Like, when you're an adult, you make friends from, like, your work.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

We don't work now.

[Sarah Colonna]

I have a lot of work friends. That's not true, babe.

[John Ryan]

I know. I have work friends, too. In Portland. I'm just saying it's different.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes, but you do. It's somewhere you go all the time, and then all of a sudden, you. Someone has to break the weird ice where you say, do you get. Hey, do you want to get, like, a cocktail sometime? And then hope that they don't think it's weird?

[John Ryan]

Oh, I'm. I'm with all my Phoenix friends right now, so. I've had the same friends. I've had this place in Phoenix before you. This. This was pre. Sarah. I've had this place, like, 17 years. I've had the same group of friends here. And when I first started coming here, they were all, like, retired in their mid-60s. Now they're, like, fricking geriatric. They're, like, in their 80s now. So we went on Tuesday, we go to trivia night at the Castaway Bar. We have a team of, like, 15 of us, and out of 20 questions, we got nine, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, nine. So not the smartest friends.

[John Ryan]

Oh, my God. These two guys, they brought their wives, and they were the dumbest people on Earth. Usually you just be like, oh, you're old. You're, like, getting too old. These women. What's the most populated country in the world that starts the letter A? This fucking woman says, antarctica. I go, oh, probably not. And she goes. And she doubles down. She goes, oh, but might be, like, one of those things that, like, they're, like, trying to trick us. Are you fucking kidding me? Antarctica? The last. I guess every. Every. Every. Like, every, like, trivia night. The last two questions, like, dirty. The question was, what's the deepest vagina ever measured?

[Sarah Colonna]

What?

[John Ryan]

And this woman, she's the score taker. She's the one that writes down the answers. And we're like, I don't know. I'm, like, 12 inches. I don't know. And she writes human. She writes human on the score sheet.

[Sarah Colonna]

Who are these people you're playing trivia with? Just not.

[John Ryan]

I think they, like, just got out of the home for, like. Like a. Like a. Like a. Like a. Like a pass out of the home for the night.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't know. Oh, my God. Human.

[John Ryan]

Human. The answer was 18 inches. She wrote human.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, I might have written whale.

[John Ryan]

Well, but it was pretty obvious that it was like, a human. That it was. We were already basing it on the fact that it was going to be a human vagina.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Also, who is measuring vaginas and why?

[John Ryan]

Well, the guy that was doing the trivia, he said the woman was like seven and a half feet tall or something. I don't know. Who measured inside? I don't know. Let's go on to the next topic.

[Sarah Colonna]

Baby, what was the answer to the country question?

[John Ryan]

Algeria or Argentina? I think it was Algeria. It wasn't Antarctica. I don't think Antarctica is even the top 100 if there's even 100 cut letter A that start with it. I mean these people were so dumb.

[Sarah Colonna]

Like my, like you are so dumb.

[John Ryan]

You are so dumb. But like these are guys just like hang out with at the pool. They're like in their freaking 80s. Like don't bring your wife if they're dumb. Oh my God, keep that dumb at home.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, Antarctica, Antarctica, human.

[John Ryan]

And then, and then, and then they keep on going, oh, we're Canadian working. I'm like, we're in a red state right now. Stop advertising that you're Canadian. Just shut up. No, no one here wants to talk to you about how you're Canadian right now.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh boy. Well, good times.

[John Ryan]

Anyway, even if you have 80 year old friends, they're still dumb.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, good point, good point.

[John Ryan]

And they got drunk really quick to these old fuckers.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh really?

[John Ryan]

Years. And they're oh yeah, I wasn't even drinking. I was drinking fake beer and they.

[Sarah Colonna]

Just, they just have a couple and it's over.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. Oh, I was drinking. So I was drinking fake beer at the bar and I went and ordered my second beer and I was standing beside this guy, he was, hey man, good for you man. He's like, shook my hand. I'm like, dude, I drink all the time. Just taking a night off.

[Sarah Colonna]

Shut up.

[John Ryan]

Congratulations. I don't need a congratulatory friggin handshake from your dumb ass.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's also weird for someone to do. That's weird for someone to assume or also congratulate or you know, I mean maybe you're just the DD that night, but also you don't need. Yeah, that's weird.

[John Ryan]

That's he look, he's like, good for you, man.

[Sarah Colonna]

We're like, never mind. Do you think, do you think that your old friends woke up like what, Alice forgot just because they had too many drinks and they don't remember what happened?

[John Ryan]

I hope so. I mean, there's no coming back from Antarctica.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, no, there's no coming back from that. She, I, I like that she doubled down though and stood, stood firm. You got to do that. In trivia, John, since. Since Alice forgot a lot and thinks that she's 29 when she's actually about to turn 40, we thought a little bit of discussion about what it's like to forget things.

[John Ryan]

Oh, boy.

[Sarah Colonna]

And for John, he, as a retired football player, has been hit in the head several times too many. And I was at one game where he was knocked out cold on the field. It was not enjoyable for anyone. It's mostly John and then second me, let's make it about me. But I know that, that. So after that happens, it was. Was it the next day or two days later we went to get brunch, which probably sounds aggressive, but like the next morning.

[John Ryan]

I'm pretty sure it's next morning because I think it was a Thursday night game. So I'd like Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I think it was Saturday that we went to get brunch. And then we were at our favorite place called J. Berries. And they. And this is in. In Seattle, right outside of Seattle, outside of Newcastle, if you're ever there. It's delicious and so enjoyable. And they let you put pull tabs and sit at the bar and it's just. God, it just makes me want. It makes my nipples hard thinking about it.

[John Ryan]

So we. Last time we landed at the airport, we just drove with our bags just throw straight to Jay Barry. Like, we took in like all our luggage, like right into a crowded restaurant and sat down and started drinking and playing Pull Town, like right in the middle of the restaurant. No shame.

[Sarah Colonna]

We really did. We just. I. I just wheeled my carry on.

[John Ryan]

Right up to the bar. We literally had our luggage with us.

[Sarah Colonna]

And you know what? They were happy to see us.

[John Ryan]

They were.

[Sarah Colonna]

I think we were successful that day on pull tabs.

[John Ryan]

Oh, I'm on a hot streak on pull tabs. Like a real hot streak.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, whenever I go to Seattle, we love pull tabs. Don't curse it. Do we get to play them in Everett in March? March, yeah.

[John Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay.

[John Ryan]

They'll have an Everett.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, God, I can't wait. Now, when we were watching the game or when we were. When we were sitting at the bar, Jay Berries, they started showing highlights from the game and they kept showing John's highlight of getting knocked out because of course, the reporting on how he's doing and blah, blah, blah, and I'm. I'm kind of looking around like, can we turn this off? I mean, I understand. It's. I just. It's hard to watch. Right? And I don't think they realized we were sitting There at first. And then we. When they did, I believe they turned it, but John was staring at it and I was like, don't watch this. And he's like, well, I don't. I don't remember it. Which was, I guess I expected, but was also kind of jarring. So do you want to talk about that?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it was. What year is that? About 2015, somewhere around there. And we had like a fake punt and I'm running right up the middle and I just get hit inside of the head. Out cold. Out cold. And. Oh, man, I guess that it was. I was. They said I was out for about twice as long as what they consider a serious concussion. So it was my. One of my best buddies, Donald Rich, was the. Is, the is or was the trainer at the time. So he like filled me in on everything, you know, because he's obviously concerned both as the fact that we're friends and that he's the trainer. And he's like, yeah, you're out for twice as long as a bad concussion. So it was, it was a bad one. And it was. I would say, yeah, I would say it probably still affects me. I think there's some memory stuff that really never came back. Like, I don't think I forget. Forgot things, but I think I. I'm easier. I. My short term memory is as good as it used to be. That's why I think when people watch football and they want to, like, almost like make fun of like, oh, it's not what it used to be. Thank fucking God. It's not what it used to be. These guys are dying. The average age used to be 55 years for a football player because of all these concussions.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

So when people watch it and be like, oh, these guys aren't what they used to be. Thank God it's not what it used to be because it was barbaric. It's still barbaric, but it was so barbaric back then that it was awful. And to see the things that I've seen with concussions, it's terrifying. And I think when a lot of people, like I've had. I think I've had like two or three documented. They call documented concussions where I've. I've had way more than that. Like, way, way, way more than that. You look at some guys, guys like, oh, man, like Brett Favre, they're like, oh, that guy, he's had like five concussions. I'm like, brett Favre had a hundred concussions. Yeah, it's not even funny. I don't want to say other people's names, but he's. He's. He's said it out loud before, but. But I know guys that were concussed every single game, they just learned how to play with. Play with it. It's awful. And so when people are like. People want to make fun of it, like, laugh. Like, you make fun of it on stage because you and I are allowed to make fun of it, but other people aren't allowed to. You know what I mean? When someone says something about your sister and then you're like, I can say something about my sister. You can't. That's the thing. Like, with my concussions, yes, you and I can joke about it, but that motherfucker at the end of the bar can't, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

And I would say. But I don't make fun of it.

[John Ryan]

I've made no situation.

[Sarah Colonna]

The situation. Yeah, it's. It's more like turning it into a story. And then. And for. For me personally, it's a really. It's a relief, right, to. To find something to turn. Like, I turned. I have this one story. If you've seen me do stand up, it was about that exact concussion. And it is very funny. But. And I say in it, like, my way of getting through when someone I love is hurt or. Or I'm in a situation like that is to try to make a joke. Like, it's not. It's not for everyone, but it works for me. And that's kind of. That's what stand up is in many ways, right? Is trying to tell your life stories and stories and perspectives, and even if they're a little effed up, you're having. Anyway, you have some fun with it, so. Yes, of course. But that's different than some guy being like, oh, remember when you got knocked out, dude?

[John Ryan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that all the time, too. Like, shut up, dude.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, you're about to get knocked out. You guys are lucky that John's not.

[John Ryan]

So. Yeah, so it was. I was lucky because everything came back pretty quickly by, like, by the time that night we were in the hospital, everything had kind of came back already. Like, I. I was. I think I argued with three different doctors because they said I couldn't drink that night. I tried to argue with about three different doctors saying that they needed to let me drink that night. Remember that?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yes.

[John Ryan]

Like, one beer, Bunny. One beer is not going to hurt me.

[Sarah Colonna]

Like, no, no, because you were pretty loopy. You were loopy. And.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it's. It's A weird feeling.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I bet. I can imagine. I do.

[John Ryan]

And it's almost the same feeling, is like you're just like, when. If you completely, completely wasted. Like back when you were like, college, we got, like, wasted. And you, like, you knew you weren't. Like, you just. You weren't quite. You know what I mean? It's like you knew you're doing something different, but you're just not quite sure what it is.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right?

[John Ryan]

Like, when you think you're on the sideline, they're like, what time is that? You're like. Like, I know it's a night game. It's gotta be, I don't know, like a later hour in the day. But I don't know what that hour might be right now. What's the score in the game? I don't know. I think we're winning. But the numbers, they won't come to you. It's so frustrating. And it almost feels like you're drunk. That's how it feels. And you feel like, kind of after you feel embarrassed because you don't know it. It's the exact same feeling.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's really crazy. That would be a very frustrating feeling.

[John Ryan]

And I got in college, I played receiver. And we were playing in Winnipeg at the time in, like, a late game, like in November, and it was freezing, and they played that old, like, field Turf or AstroTurf, which is like playing like a parking lot. And I went over the middle and got my leg. I played receiver back then went over the middle, got my legs taken out, landed on my head, and I forgot the entire playbook. This is my third year. I. I've been. I started for all four years. I knew the playbook inside out. I forgot the entire playbook. And I could only see in black and white for the rest of the game.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, what?

[John Ryan]

I was colorblind. I was colorblind for the rest of the game.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's insane. Yeah, you could just see in black and white.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, it was a straight. It was the most bizarre thing. But it was like, back in those days, those old, like, the fields. Now, if you hit the head of the field, you're probably knocked out. But back in those days, when you play the astroturf, it was just like concrete. When your head hit that thing, it was no different than hitting your head, like, on a concrete floor. You were just out almost instantly.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, that's crazy. I mean, there's. Listen, there's a few team uniforms out there. You kind of wish you go colorblind.

[John Ryan]

When you see them, but like, does the opposite. Lime green.

[Sarah Colonna]

The lime green one.

[John Ryan]

My God.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, but I love it. I have a jersey, a lime green jersey and a. And a lime green sweatshirt. Just because. But you were wearing that color when you had that when you got knocked out. So that, that's. It has a little bit of a bad juju to it for us, but.

[John Ryan]

It'S also kind of like you like to be put out, like when you're doing, like, surgeries. Like you. You like that? Like, I've only been put on one. I got like. I like my four wisdom teeth, my three molars removed all at the same time. It was like you go out and then it's like you snap your fingers. Now you're awake and everything's done.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

When you're coming to. It has the same feeling when you're coming to. You, like, you're kind of out of it. You're not really, like, sure what's going on. It has. It's a similar feeling when you're coming out of that concussion.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's crazy. That. Yeah. I mean, that feeling feels good when it's from medication. John thinks I'm weird. I love being put out. When they said when they're like, when I got my first colonoscopy, which I did just to couple years ago. You're supposed to get them done. Everyone get them done. I think they now say 45.

[John Ryan]

45, right.

[Sarah Colonna]

So do it. Yeah. So. And I. My all clear. I was given the all clear. I don't have to do it again for 10 years in case anyone.

[John Ryan]

10 years.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

I always feel weird. They have those take home ones now that you, like. You order online.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[John Ryan]

Oh, then you, like, do a. Like a poo poo in a box and send it in the mail. Oh, I don't like it. Like, oh, the FedEx guy shows up like, oh, here, bud, this is yours now. Like, toilet paper hanging out the side. I don't like it.

[Sarah Colonna]

I wouldn't. I don't feel like. Because you and I are so weird about bathroom stuff. I feel like I couldn't even. I just wouldn't be able, like, go poo poo in a box knowing that you were in the house. Oh, God, I'd feel like a cat, one of our cats.

[John Ryan]

But I'm gonna start gagging. I'm gonna start.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. All right, all right. We're no more talking about it. I don't want to talk about it either, by the way.

[John Ryan]

But I brought it up.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm sorry, but I. They can give You a little. They go, oh, we can kind of do like the. The tiniest twilight where you'll be. You'll be awake, but you won't really feel anything. Or you can. If. If your insurance covers you. You can get full anesthesia. I was like, full anesthesia, bitch. And boy, did it just. It just feels good. I'll never. When I got neck surgery and that was. I mean, they obviously have to really.

[John Ryan]

That was a. That was a big structure, though. You were. You're. It was like five or six hour surgery. It was a long surgery.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And they go in through the front. If you're on Patreon, you can see my beautiful scar.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, he got it right in the crease. He got. He did a good job. He did a good job. Did Peyton Manning's next surgery, right?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I figured if he could go.

[John Ryan]

Good one. That worked.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I feel like if he could go back to playing football, I could go back to tell him some jokes.

[John Ryan]

You got that. You got the surgery done during the season. It was on it. Luckily it was on a Tuesday so I could fly in for the surgery and then fly out. And you kind of came out of surgery right before I had to leave. And you were like, I feel great. I feel awesome. Like, 24 hours later, you're like, kill me. Why did I do this? Well, this is the stupidest thing I've ever done. Do you remember that? You were like. You were so upset. But after surgery, you were great.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, yes. The surgery changed my life for sure. I was having a lot of pain. I had a. It doesn't matter. You don't need to know.

[John Ryan]

It was awful. Were in rough shape.

[Sarah Colonna]

It was rough shape. So it. But it changed my life and. But yeah, when I first came out of it. And then I remember when do. Dr. Watkins came in the next morning to check on me because you stay the night. And he came check on me and it was still. I was still pretty under. Like, I was. It was. I was awake, but I didn't. I was like. He goes, all right, so how you feeling, Sarah? And I did exactly that. I go, I feel great. This is like awesome. And he was like, oh, oh, no. I think he thought this poor thing when it wears off. And then two days later, I was like, why did I even do this?

[John Ryan]

The thought of it like a neck is so bad that you go in through the front. And it was like a six hour surgery. Like, it was. Oh, it Awful. Awful.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. Anyway, I do like being on. I do like anesthesia. I'd say, don't worry, I dabble in it other than when I need it.

[John Ryan]

My mom had two knees replaced without being put under.

[Sarah Colonna]

I. When she told me that she was visiting us a couple weeks ago, when she told me that, I, I, I was. I can't believe it. I mean, not. They just numb it, but you're. I mean, it was bone on bone.

[John Ryan]

Oh, no. She was like, you could hear the saw and that. And then the third time, because this is. My mom likes to talk so much. Like, she'll talk. She'll chat. She loves to chat for hours. Like, she can't go into a grocery store and wait in line without talking to people in front of her, behind her. She goes in the grocery store and she'll ask people what they're shopping for, and if they have a recipe for that, it's insanity how much she'll talk to people. It's so not me or you. So the last time she got her knee replaced, the third time she got her knee replaced, she went. And she was telling us the story the other day, and she went in and she said to the doctor, do you. Do you like to chat? And he's like, no. She's like, fine, then put me under.

[Sarah Colonna]

Wait, that's really funny. I forgot she told us that. Yeah. The minute he was like, nah, girl.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. She wanted to talk so much. Like, don't put me under. I want to talk for the next hour and a half while my knee gets pounded on with a saw and a hammer.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. And then he. That's exactly how I'd be if I was a surgeon. I'd be like, no, no. I think it's best for you and I both if you're out.

[John Ryan]

Actually, I don't also know. It's like, if a guy is, like, replacing my knee, I don't want him talking. I want him focusing very, very, very well on what he's doing.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah. I don't want to hear his thought on the latest episodes of the Traders while we're. I want to.

[John Ryan]

Well, I would like to, but maybe like, after.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I want full focus. Full focus.

[John Ryan]

The last episode, Traders, was really good, by the way.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know. I was gonna ask you. So I. I mean, you're out of town, so I watched it without you. Sorry, but you watched it without me too, so we're fine.

[John Ryan]

Well, I need to watch this. There's. I have a list of shows that I've watched since you've been gone. Since you've been gone. Okay.

[Sarah Colonna]

You know what a real problem Is. And then we're gonna get back on track.

[John Ryan]

Is that we've been off track this entire episode.

[Sarah Colonna]

I know, but we did we listen. There's no track. We just have a nice time, week one, two and three. But we got. We got. Forgetting things to discuss. But I. I keep watch because we started Love is Blind on your account. I keep watching it on your account. And I need. What I should have done is gone back from where we left off and then picked it up on my account. But then. So then I go on, and then you've watched an episode. So then I start watching that episode and realize.

[John Ryan]

But I haven't. But I haven't watched any since you went off.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, really?

[John Ryan]

Oh.

[Sarah Colonna]

Cause the other thing.

[John Ryan]

So now what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go on your account and pick it up where I left off, so then I'll be able to follow it on your account.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's a good idea. I don't know what happened though, because the other day, all of a sudden I was like, why are they home? They didn't go to Honduras. And then I realized they did, but I missed that episode.

[John Ryan]

So sometimes I think someone else has our password.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, right.

[John Ryan]

Because remember, I thought, yeah, itunes too. I was like, oh, I started. I was somewhere and I started watching the show because I'm like, oh, you're watching the show. And I've never watched that show before because, you know, it comes up, like, continue watching. So I download the show, started watching it. You're like, I've never watched that show in my life.

[Sarah Colonna]

You're right.

[John Ryan]

Somebody probably been somewhere and like logged in, like a hotel or like a Airbnb or something. Logged in and then forgot to log out. And now someone.

[Sarah Colonna]

Are those people at Airbnb just. Just rolling it. Rolling in our Netflix. Well, good on them.

[John Ryan]

I guess so.

[Sarah Colonna]

So just real quick back to your concussion. So when you. When we were Watch when they were showing those highlights because. I know, I know. Like, since then, right, You've had. Like you said, your short term memory has changed. Your long term memory has not changed. Right.

[John Ryan]

Very good. I think.

[Sarah Colonna]

And yeah, I think so too. It's. No, it is it short term is definitely. It's one of those things where we kill. He has to ask me things a few times or just be like, wait, remind me. This, this, you know, nothing major. Not like he forgets that I'm there or that he forgets that we're married or whatever. All the.

[John Ryan]

Buckle up, little girl.

[Sarah Colonna]

Not as severe as Alice, but When you were watching the highlights and you realized you, when you said, I didn't even remember it. So when you wake, when that happens, and you wake up in the hospital and I, I know that, that you knew how you got there, because when they, they had to ask you in front of me if you knew why you were there and you told them you did. And I think, and I believe you guys, you won the. What was it you won, what was it you guys won that night?

[John Ryan]

NFC north or NFC West?

[Sarah Colonna]

NFC west, yeah, because I, I have a photo of that. I'll post it. Like, I put he had his T shirt on in his hospital bed, but, you know, laying over him. But knowing I, I know the, the, the short term issues, I know what the repercussions are now, but during that time when you're, you wake up and you're, Is it. Do you just say, I know what happened? Because you know that you, who you are and what you do for a living and that there was a game that night. Are you just basically saying that to get out of there or do you know, I was doing a trick play and like, do you remember all of.

[John Ryan]

It by that point? I remember, I remembered it. It was like I. The first memory I have. And it's hard too, because when you play in the NFL, especially in Seattle, you just see the highlights 100 times a day for the next, all week. So I was almost like, how much of these memories are real memories? How much of them are manufactured memories? You know, like, did I, did I make up this memory? Because I've now watched this highlight 100 times or once I actually remember. But I remember the first memory I have after it was in the locker room when they were like, they were talking. Donald. Donald. And a couple of people were talking to me. That was the first memory that I had. I remember like the start of the play. I think also when it first happened, that was the first memory I had, but I had forgotten almost that entire day.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

And then I think, then I think it started coming back to me a little bit. But yeah, the first memory I had was in the locker room with Donald talking to me. And then I recovered pretty quickly. Like, by the time we. Yeah, I was, I was totally, well, I was totally fine in terms of, you know, us talking or whatever. And then I went through like, you go through the NFL, you go through like about a 10 day percussion protocol to be able to be back on the field. And luckily for me, that was a Thursday night game. So we had like 10 days before the next Sunday. So I ended up, I didn't miss a single game, but the last, like, hurdle I had to get over was like the Saturday before the game. Like, I had to like, pass tests all, all, like for 10 straight days. Otherwise, if that game would have been played on Sunday, I would have missed the next Sunday because it couldn't have passed all the protocol leading up to it.

[Sarah Colonna]

Right.

[John Ryan]

But all that stuff came back pretty quick. So I don't know. It's. Luckily that was my last one and hopefully I don't have another one.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, don't go to spin class with, with Alice.

[John Ryan]

No. Girl be falling off her bike. And.

[Sarah Colonna]

I, I know that we were, we were talking a little bit about how we were. It just memory in general. I have a, I can relate to a little bit about Alice in one way. Now this is, I want to, I want to get more in depth on this exact topic about either next week or week three. We're going to talk about, like, where she thinks she's stuck and how interesting that would be to not, you know, to have this whole decade be kind of washed away from you and still have. You think you have feelings for someone that. Anyway, so we're going to get into that a little bit more in depth either next week or the week after, because I want you to make sure everyone's a little more caught up before. Again, it won't be any spoilers, but it's just. And plus, I think it's. That is going to make for such a long conversation and we're already almost done here, so. But I just, in general, I, I have a pretty bad memory. I have a good memory of.

[John Ryan]

I don't think you have a bad memory. You have a bad memory in China. Like, you don't have the ability to pin down dates. Like, if someone says to me, oh, remember when this happened? I go, oh, yeah, that was like, like 2001. Like, you, you don't have that.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I don't. I have. I literally, not too long ago, I had to look on IMDb to figure out when I started working at Chelsea lately as a writer. And I was pretty far off. I, I, I could, like, I could. There's some days where I really. Oh yeah. I, there's times where people are like, how long did you work at, at Mirabel? And I go, oh, this a restaurant I worked in when I first moved here. I'm like, f, I don't know, four or five years. Oh, when was that? And I'll be like, and I'll start trying to guess. And then I. And then I'll talk to like, Franola, you know, Chris Franola who worked there with me. And my dates are way off. You know, he's like, that's not. When we. So I. Yeah, when. Years. That's. I guess that's true. It's like when the years. Things happened for some reason. It's just not.

[John Ryan]

But I think for me, I have an advantage because my entire life, since I was seven years old, everything is like, I have an anchor point because every. Every year is like a season. Like a season of football. So you have that anchor point to tie everything to.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, that's.

[John Ryan]

So from the time I was 7 until I was 41, every. Every, like football season, you could kind of like, relate it back to like, oh, that was. Oh, four. Oh, I was playing a Winnipeg. It was like, you know, I mean, you can like, anchor. It's an anchor point for me.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's a good point. That's. Yeah. And I haven't had any sort of regimented life for a very long time, so. Or ever really. And I think that my, like, I can tell you what years I was working on Insatiable and. And shameless, because those were like, right before the two years leading up to Covid. And I know that Covid started in 2020, so I can kind of those. Those certain things like that I can tell you.

[John Ryan]

Well, I had this conversation with our good friend Russell from Polk Acupuncture. And he says it's very hard for men in LA to keep track of dates because it's. There's no season change. And so everything just kind of blends into another and they don't have any, like, anchor points in terms of seasonal change. And he told me, because women have their period, they have more of a. Like a. Whatever it's called. Like, what's like a root in earth.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, that's interesting.

[John Ryan]

Yeah. So he's like, man, in L. A. There's no season change. There's nothing ever changes for them. So it's hard for them to. To like, keep track of dates and times.

[Sarah Colonna]

Whereas our seasons change all the time. Every month, our seasons change.

[John Ryan]

Winter's coming seasons.

[Sarah Colonna]

Winter. Winter's coming seasons change. So Russell at Poke. Acupuncture, if you're ever in Los Angeles and need acupuncture. He's amazing. He's amazing. But just real quick on the note of that, he always knew when I was getting my period, he put his. He put his hands on my wrist and feel my Pulse on the inside. It's in my wrist. And then he'd go, ooh, period's coming. And I'd be like, yes, I remember you going there.

[John Ryan]

You'd be like. Like a week late. He'd just be like, oh, Jesus Christ. It's like holding your wrist. He'd be like, jesus Christ.

[Sarah Colonna]

He's like, it doesn't feel like. It feels good to be in that body at all right now. Yeah, I could go.

[John Ryan]

I could go in there. And he, like, grabbed my wrist, like, oh, you had a big workout this morning. I'm like, yeah, like, how. How do you know?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, he's very intuitive or whatever you call it, but he's good at his job. But, yeah, maybe I just wonder what it is. I wonder. Listeners, you know, I'm interested to hear your comments on this when we post the episode. You know, you can comment on Patreon. You can comment on the. When we post the episode in the book list, spinners, the, you know, the screenshot of the episode. Little converse. I wonder, does anyone have any idea what it is that makes people just not remember? I'm so dis. Sometimes I feel so disconnected to the past that I almost sometimes think that's it. Does that make sense? Sometimes I go. I don't even. I can't even identify with who I was at a certain point. So it doesn't. So those years, I'm just like, I don't know, whenever that was.

[John Ryan]

Sometimes I think I remember too much. I wish I didn't remember all that. There's a few years, but I was like, I wish. I just probably forget.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's too bad they can't just put our brains together and then we could have, like. I could have a better memory. And then you could just forget the things you don't want to remember.

[John Ryan]

Yeah, that'd be nice.

[Sarah Colonna]

It'd be a good match in the brain.

[John Ryan]

Have one brain that we could share.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't think you'd like it in here. I don't think you'd like it in here. I think you'd have a tough time. Okay, well, that was a fun discussion and probably a little bit depressing in some ways. John went colorblind from getting hit in the head.

[John Ryan]

We talked about pull tabs and jberries. Two favorite things.

[Sarah Colonna]

We sure did. So thank you guys for listening. We will be back next week. Again, your spoilers won't come until full discussion. Won't be until week four, but we'll have some really fun discussions in between. I really can't wait to talk about what I would think it would be like to just wake up and still think I was in love with someone who I was fucking divorcing and they and everyone knew it. Like I just can't. So we'll get into that next week probably. And don't forget your April pick is then she was gone. Just like John's Memory by, by Lisa Jewell. And if you can, if you can join us on Patreon, great. If not a free way to support us and keep us going and get the word out is of course to tell your friends. But also rate, review and subscribe Apple and Spotify. I think the best place is to leave a quick five star rating and maybe drop a line about how enjoyable you think we are. See you guys next week. Bye bye. The book list the book lisp the book list the book lisp the book lisp.