← The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
The Book Lisp with Jon Ryan & Sarah Colonna
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It’s week 5 of your June Book Lisp - and it’s a bonus Monday! Jon & Sarah compare their “suggested reading” lists on kindle. One reads like a Hallmark movie list, one does not (guess who?!). Jon discusses the Jeremy Renner Memoir, one of Sarah’s favorite authors might be projecting too much, and more. Enjoy this fun episode!
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Hi, I'm Sarah Colonna.
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And I'm John Ryan.
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And you're listening to the Book List. The Book List.
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The Book Lisp.
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Oh, that's right. You're listening to the Book Lisp. Hello and welcome to the Book Lisp with John Ryan and Sarah Colonna. Hi, John.
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Hello. How are you?
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Good. How are you?
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B
I'm good, thank you.
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We are recording this a couple days early because John's off to Canada tomorrow for a wedding.
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B
Yeah.
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Tomorrow being. Well, this would have been last week when we recorded this to prepare to be ready. We recorded early. I don't know what I'm talking about. You guys get it. It's the fifth Monday, so I'm out of sorts.
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B
The. The rare fifth Monday.
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I know there's not that many that have five Mondays, but there's more than I thought. And so this. This month we don't have an author interview for you. I tried to get hold of Leslie Wolf. I'm going to figure out a better way to get hold of authors than just DM them.
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B
Yeah. If we say find their. Find their address and it's been outside their house or something, I think that might be. Yeah, just peek outside their window.
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Yeah, I feel. Come to my window. I feel like that would be a great way. Yeah, I think, you know, like, professionally going through probably their publicist, their people, is probably a good way because not everyone reads their dms and for good reason.
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Yeah, I know. I think that there's a lot of. Unfortunately, there's a lot of women out there that can't read their dms because men are disgusting.
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Everyone's. Everyone's crazy. We. So this month, what we're going to do for this fifth Monday is we just. We're both going to talk about what we're currently reading. We won't really give spoilers in case anyone wants to read what we are currently reading. That is not the book list. POD picks and don't. July is Meet Me at the Lake by Carly Fortune. I was just on her website and I saw this thing at the top that said MMATL bonus chapter. And then it says, join subscribe to her newsletter for the password. So I subscribed to get the bonus chapter and I'm excited because I have already finished that book.
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B
The bonus chapter better not suck. Well, because what if the bonus chapter wrecks the whole book?
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I don't think it was wrapped up.
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In a nice little. Wrapped up in a nice little bow.
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Yeah, but I don't think she's going to do that to herself. She seems like a smart lady, a nice author, a good author. She didn't you say she's a. She's got like several spots on the bestseller list right now?
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Yeah.
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And yeah. So I don't think she's going to do that. But we figure maybe what we'll do is if I get it and if it's a fun thing to read, maybe we'll read it to you on Patreon or something. We'll figure it out. We have the Patreon. It's $5 a month. We do this bonus content over there. It's super fun. So join us if you can and at this point you'll have months worth of stuff to catch up on and you never know what you're going to hear over there. We do short stories once a month. That's fun. This month it's Freedom McFadden death row. And join us the Book List on Instagram and the Book List Spinners is our Facebook group. We keep a running free features tab of everything we're reading, including the short stories for Patreon, including every time we announce a book. It's up there. So we have all that stuff for you. We also thought a fun thing to do today since it's kind of like a free Monday, is go through our Kindles individually and read to each other what it says. It suggests that we read based on our browsing history because we all know sometimes John gets random drugstore cowboy looking romance covers suggested to him.
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Mine's not as bad. It's right my top three Great Big Beautiful Life by Emily Henry. I love Emily Henry. And then there was like two Christmas books, Gabriel's angel, but Gabriel's well it looks like a Christmas book. It's like a snowy, a snowy thing on the front. Nora Roberts, Gabriel's Angel. The other one is Sleigh Bells Ring by Rayan Thane.
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On that well read us the synopsis for Sleigh Bells Ring.
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You betcha. Coming right up. Celebrate the season with this sparkling and heartwarming holiday romance. Oh, here we go. That proves sometimes all you need is a little Christmas magic employed as a live in caretaker of Angel's view Ranch, Annelise McCabe is just trying to make it through the holidays with both her sanity and her nieces and nephews. Faith in magic of Christmas intact. The six year old twins recently lost their mother, so Annie tells herself it won't be a problem to bring them to her workplace. The Sheridans haven't visited Angels View in years. Not since the patriarch Wallace died, they would never know the twins were there until Tate Sheridan shows up out of the blue two weeks before Christmas.
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I still don't know what that book's about.
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Who wrote surprises? Annie. By asking them to stay and help him get. Get the house ready for one last family Christmas before the ranch is put on the market.
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Oh, there we go. Why didn't they just get to the put on the market part?
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Annie and Tate have three days to work their magic before the Sheridan clan arrives and to work through the growing attraction between them. Oh, there it is. Okay, they're falling. But, Annie.
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Oh, my God. Why the fuck is this synopsis so long?
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But Annie simply can't fall for the man who's about to put her out of a job and a home. Still, the sparkle of the season is impossible to deny. And this Christmas has surprises in store for everyone.
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I know we have the video on Patreon right now, so if any of you are watching me, I'm about to fall asleep with the description of that book, and it's no shade to the author. But I don't feel like that was a. I feel like that was a long description and I needed.
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It's on sale for $1.99. Buy now. Buy now. John says buy now.
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Talk into the microphone.
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Bye now.
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There you go. Okay. Oh, you bought it.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Well, of course he did, but that sounded awful to me.
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But that sounds like a Hallmark movie.
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It sounds like a Hallmark movie, but I just feel like it was just a lot. I might have. Maybe I just zoned out or something, but it sounded like there was a lot.
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At one point, I looked into your eyes and there was nothing there.
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There's nothing there. Well, my. See, we're going to read more of your books that you like, but inspired by your browsing history. For me. One, the Tenant by Freda McFadden. That checks out. Two, the Intruder by Freda McFadden also checks out. Three, the Locked Door. But why do they. Oh, so this is just what I recently browsed. Because I just browsed her because we're doing her short story, so. Okay, I'm going to go back. I'm going to go with books you may like. That's the one. Like what you just read. Books you may like is also suggested off of what you've purchased and looked up, but not just like the most recent browsing. The Ex Wives Club by Sally Hepworth.
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What are the. What are they saying?
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It says, tell you when a restaurateur and serial philanderer Turns up stone cold dead. His trio of exes fall under suspicious and a sharp witted and suspicious vengeful short story of. It's a short story. Well that's good to know because maybe that will be one of our reads in the future. None of this is true. They suggested by Lisa Jewell. So we just recently read. Yeah and I actually just. I think that's the one I just got because I think it just came out. I, I know that I just got a Lisa Jewel book because it just came out and I had pre ordered it after the book that we read of hers and no, that says 2023. So. No, that was a different one. Anyway, I did get something by her just recently. Oh, a Beach Club by Ellen Hildebrand is recommended for me. See so what's happened is now your. Yeah, yeah, your influence is creeping over into mine. Used to just be like dead people, dead people dead. Dead wife, dead husband, dead ex. Someone in a basement. And now it's like oh they, they throw in a, a little.
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Listen to this. Till summer do us part. Oh, Megan Quinn. I mean you can get me with a title and a cover.
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Yeah. What's the COVID like?
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Just like Two adults in the river on. On Tubes. Seems nice.
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That does sound nice. It sounds very similar to Meet Me at the Lake.
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Just any kind of variation of that.
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Yeah, I'll read that one too with the Paradise Problem. Didn't you have us read that, Christina? Lauren, didn't you have a book called the Paradise Problem?
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I'm sure I did.
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I don't know. Yeah, sounds like a similar one that we had to read. And maybe it's not because I don't recognize that author's name. Anyway, we thought it'd be interesting to see what we got going over there. Now I know that John right now is reading a. You're reading. What are you reading? The Jeremy Renner.
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Jeremy Renner autobiography. I didn't know that much about Jeremy Renner. I'm halfway through it. It's a relatively quick read but I'm halfway through it and I like. I also knew he's an actor. I knew he was famous but didn't know that much about him in this and obviously I knew. I heard about the whole. When he got, you know, ran over by like a huge snow. Snow removal device. Like 14000 ton snow removal device. So he was at his home with his whole family, the whole extended family, like 20, some of them up in like in like Lake Tahoe area. And they, him and his nephew were Digging out the driveway because it was a huge storm. And he got out of the big, this big plow. I don't know what. It's like a snow cat, you know, they use like on the mountains. Oh yeah, it's like one of the commercial ones.
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And.
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And he got out, he had one.
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Out of his own house.
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Yeah, it sounds like he has got a long, a half a mile driveway. And he used it because it snows out there. Like it can snow like 3, 4 or 5ft in the night. It's like crazy. And so he was going, he got him and his nephew and digging this out. His nephew's at the end of the driveway or side of whatever it was, about 10ft away. And he was outside of his truck. And he gets out of the snowplow, jumps off and forgets to hit like the break or something. Forgets to put it like in park. And so he looks up and this thing's going towards his nephew. His nephew's 27, grows up and he's just like. This is like such like an actor thing to do, but it's also kind of badass. He's like, not fucking today. He like runs. He like tries to jump inside to hit the brake and he misses and goes underneath the. Gets plowed. The whole entire thing goes over top of him. Like £14,000 rolls over top of him. He. I won't say too much because you're gonna be like grossed out, but he was at one point, because it squished his head.
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Oh my God.
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It shot his left eye out of his head. He goes, with my right eye. I could see my left eye.
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Oh my gosh. I mean, I knew it was bad and I knew it's a miracle he survived, but it really is a miracle.
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It was. Oh my God. Now that I'm like, they're how like over 30. Broken bones, like a lacerated liver, like punctured lung. Like it was like an eye came out of his frickin head. Like it was. It was crazy. The one cool thing he said is that for a while. He died for a while. And he said it was fucking awesome.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. He said he was like disappointed when he woke up because it was like when he died, it was so amazing. I hope he's real. I hope it's real.
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But in what way? Like, how did he describe that? What did he say?
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Like there was. He basically said like there was no time, there was no stress. It was just like floating. He's just like at peace with everything. Oh, but yeah, I'm like, yeah, me too. But I don't believe in much. But he, he just talks about this whole thing. Now he's starting to get like into his recovery. Like it's just so crazy because they were down in the driveway this happened and they had like helicopters and everything come in. And it took like 45 minutes where his like nephew was like holding his arm in place so he'd like somewhat breathe. Luckily there neighbors were there so they ran over and they were like helping him. They called like multiple, but it took like 45 minutes. Cuz they're in the middle of nowhere and this whole time is like entire family is up at the house having no clue what's going on.
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Oh my God. They had no idea.
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No. They airlift some. Everything out and then the. The nephew went back and just like grabs his mom was like, I have to talk to you outside. Like I don't think uncle Jeremy's gonna live. He's like, what? I just. I'm drinking coffee. What the you talking about?
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So how did he get. So how did the airlifting come without his family even knowing?
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Because he had. So he got ran over and his nephew is still there with him. His nephew's like, I gotta leave you. And ran across the street. It sounded like they were closer to other places than the actual top of their own house. So he's like, I gotta, I gotta leave you to get. Find. Go find a phone. Runs across and apparently the house that he went straight to happened to be the only house. If someone was there that week or that day. And the man like ran over, grabbed his wife. They both ran over, like started helping him and they started calling the Reno ambulance and the you know, whatever like set like call the dispatch and be like get send like everyone you can. It's really bad.
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Jesus Christ. That is. I mean his nephew, I mean talk about someone that better get him nice presents for the rest of us.
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I know even they said even when he was like checked into the hospital, his family like eventually got there. Like they were driving from all over. So I found it wasn't there. They had to drive like 13 hours. Those big storm and all that. And when they're like how was like how is my son doing? They're like, we need to have you talk to social services actually. Like they were like. They all basically thought he was dead. And so did like the doctors basically.
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Oh, social services.
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Or is that what it is? Social services? Or like a social worker. You have to talk like a social worker. You have to talk to Someone that, like, is able to talk you about what's happening. Not just a doctor being like, oh, he's probably being like, you have to deal with some serious right now. Like, your son is dead.
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Oh, God. They didn't, they really didn't think he was gonna make it. Yeah. I knew it was bad. Does he. So, so it's mostly it's about the accident, and then it starts talking about his recovery.
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Yeah. But I think it's kind of cool because in the accident he kind of, like, flashes back to, like, things in his life, you know, like just, you know, I mean, like, he's, he's laying the ground, but then he, like, thinks back about something like his childhood, and then he talks about that for a little bit. Then it flashes back to him, like the ambulance getting there. You know what I mean? So it kind of flashes back. So it's not just about that. It's also about his life.
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Okay. And you find it's heavy, though, and you like it.
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I really like it, but it's hard. Some of it's hard to read because, man, it's, it's rough.
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Yeah. It'll never be a book. Lisp. Read. Don't. No, no, I know. I don't mean don't worry as in you shouldn't read it. I mean, we like to keep it a little bit lighter. Even if my books are. Can be gory.
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B
A lot of murder in your book.
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Well, I'm reading the Crash right now by Frida McFadden.
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B
Oh. I actually have that downloaded. I just haven't started reading it yet.
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I feel like it's not going to be one of my favorites of hers. No, no, I, I. So there's something she's doing in it. I don't want to give too much away for anyone that's going to read it or hasn't read it, but it's. She's doing a thing in it that seems like it's making it very obvious what the twist is going to be. I think she thinks she's throwing people off and instead it's making it painfully obvious. Is my, really, my opinion. Yes. Now, I could be wrong because I haven't finished it yet. It's definitely a quick read. I mean, I'm enjoying it because I enjoy her writing and I enjoy the, the genre in general. But I mean, there's a. There's a couple things. I don't know how they're going to turn out, but I feel like I'm one part of it. She's trying to make it seem like it's one thing and it's for sure gonna be this other. And it just seems kind of feel like I'm getting hit over the head with it. Does that make sense?
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Yeah. It's gotta be tough because she's pumping out books at, like, almost an alarming rate. I think she's pumping out one every three months. So I don't know if it's almost like. And I mean, I'm not saying this, that that's what she's doing, but it seems like almost. Maybe you have a formula, like a Hallmark movie where there's a formula you just punch in and then you insert the characters and try to.
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Yeah, I know. I agree. I feel a little torn because I really like her. I mean, the Housemaid is the. Some of the. Some really great books, the whole series. And then I've read a few other. I think there was Ward D or something like that. That was. I thought, was a good one. And there's a. But. I mean, she's written so many. But to your point, I think there's also this moment when authors are so popular that it's like, then the publisher just goes, we need another. And we need another. We need another.
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And then they sign, like, eight book deals and stuff.
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Right? Yeah. So. And. But I don't know if it. If maybe there's a way to. To slow them down if that's the case. But also to that point, it's like, you got to. You know, I don't want to be critical of it because, I mean, the book business isn't the same as the entertainment business, but there's still some similarities. And when you're popular, you gotta, like, write it. You gotta ride your heat, as a good friend of mine said to me a long time ago. And sometimes it can be. Sometimes. I mean, you see, sometimes, like right now, we're watching you watch tv, and you're like, does Nicole Kidman have to be in another TV show?
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It's how I felt sometimes during football season when I'm like, does like. And I love these cup. This couple. And I love all of it. But sometimes I'm like, oh, do I need to see another Travis Kelsey commercial?
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Right.
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But with that, if I was in his shoes, I'd be doing the exact same thing. I would ride the. Out of that. Well, it's like, well. Well, it's there because he's probably gonna retire in a year or two. That probably won't be there anymore for him. I mean, it'll always be There to an extent, dating Taylor Swift. But he's. He's probably not gonna.
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Yeah. And Jason Kelsey, too. I mean, he's got tons of commercials and, like. But you said, like, we can all roll our eyes. It's people being overexposed. But then we also go, well, like you said, what would you do? And. And you've gotta take advantage while you can. I mean, sometimes I think, I don't know, what was I watching the other day? I think I talked about this already, but, like, Lisa Kudrow and Courtney Cox were in some gaming commercial or something. Or some commercial. And I was like, all right, I know for sure you two don't need this, but at the same time, it probably took them a day, and they probably said, we'll give you a million bucks. And they're like, okay. I mean, why would you say no at that point?
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Yeah. I mean, those, those apps must have so much money, those gaming apps, because they are paying big time. Select, like Chris Pratt is on them. I saw Drew Barrymore guys, the people from France. I mean, they're paying millions of dollars for these people to come on these commercials. Most of them look like shot on their freaking cell phone, too. They're not like, high budget, some of them.
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Yeah, I know. Yeah, they must be doing that because it's like, it's kind of crazy. But I could see the same thing kind of happening in the literary world where they just go, girl, you're number one, number one all the time. Let's just keep pumping them out and making you number one. And people are going to keep buying them and just because one's a little not as. And I'm not even finished this with this one yet, so I'm definitely judging it before it's done, but I'm. I'm. I'm probably 40% through, and I just. And I got there pretty fast. It's definitely an easy read if you're looking for. For that. But I do kind of feel like I'm. The. The intentional misleading is not working.
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I'll. I'll definitely still read it, though. I do. I do like her books. They are. They're coming out hot and heavy, but I like them. You know, a couple weeks ago, we read the Answer is no by Frederick Backman.
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Yes.
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And, well, I was like, oh, I'd like to actually read, like a full length book on him that he wrote. Yeah, I have. I just realized now that we're going back. I read a book called Beartown and it's intense.
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Okay. I've Heard, I think. And that might have even been a.
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I think they made it into a TV show.
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Something. Yeah, because I feel like I've heard of that one.
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It's so intense. I think there's actually a series of the same book, and I don't think I can even read the second one.
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Oh, really?
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B
Yeah. Part of it kind of, like, hit home for me because it was, like, about a small hockey town and how they take hockey so seriously, and they're kind of, like, trying to cover up, like, murder and rape and all the. This guy, like, the star hockey player who's also, I think, the coach's son, or no, not coach son, but dating the coach's daughter, is accused of raping her and the. All that they. The whole town, like, takes. The whole town, like, takes his side because he's a star hockey player. And this girl is made to feel like shit. And it just, like, it goes through, like, that whole thing about, like, that, and she's, like, scared to tell anyone because her dad's the hot coach and come up on the big game. And this guy is, like, the best hope this town has had. And, like, 30 years of, like, going pro. It's a longer book, but it's like. It's really deep. And it just kind of. Because I come from a hockey place, it kind of. I didn't necessarily deal with that, but there were issues along those lines of being like, oh, but that, like, the star hockey player, they get away with stuff. And it's like. It was.
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Yeah, pretty.
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Pretty good, but it was pretty, like, hard to read at times.
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I just looked and it says 2020 television adaptation. So they did do a TV adaptation of it, a Swedish drama, five episode, directed by Peter Grundland. Well, I'm gonna. We should watch that. Even though you just kind of said how intense it might be. But, yeah, I. I think that was the one that was suggested a bunch. So we did a Frederick Bachman. It was called the Answer is no. It was a really good short story. I'm telling you, these short stories on Patreon have been super fun because I'm not used to reading them, so. And it's also because we kind of, like, we did that last month. We did a Lee Child. That maybe wasn't necessarily normally something that either of us would read, but it.
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B
It.
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A
Which is kind of fun. So. And then, of course, now I'm doing a Frida McFadden one for July, but it kind of opens up reading these authors in short spurts to kind of introduce you to them. And then you go, oh, I want to read more. So you. I know that that one is one that you read, but then I know that there was another one a lot of people had suggested I'm going to see. No, my friend. Maybe it was Beartown. Oh, no. A Man Called Ove of Ove. And that was. That's the one that was made into a movie with Tom Hanks.
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Oh, oh, oh, what was that called?
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The man called. Oh, yeah, yeah, it was called. It was with Tom Hanks. I remember because I remember thinking, oh, maybe it's not with Tom Hanks. Wait, hold on. I am. Guys, Sorry. Yeah, it is. Okay. A Man Called O. Tom Hanks. A Man Called Otto. Tom Hanks.
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Oh, there you go.
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But it is the same book. I think it says A Man Called Otto. Changes were due to setting in the original movie. Oversight in Sweden. Otto lives in Pittsburgh. Okay, guys, sometimes while we're recording, we have to Google things to learn. And so thanks for being on that journey with us. But I do remember I never saw that movie. But I do remember thinking that it was an interesting name for a movie. And now I know why. And now maybe that is the one that I'll read. But I know a lot of people had suggested that one.
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I'm looking at, like, my. The past books I've read in the last five years. And it's funny because a lot of times when you finish a book, then it says, oh, let me recommend this next book to you. And I start sometimes going down, like, rabbit holes that I'm not even interested in. I read Rob Lowe's book, and at the end, they're like, oh, why don't you read Anthony Kiedis book Scar Tissue? So I wrote that. I read that one, and that led me to Nikki Sixx book. And you know how much I don't listen to them. And when I. When I finished that, it said, why don't you read Tommy Lee's book? No, I think at first I read Dirty Rocker Boys by Bobby Brown, who was like a groupie of Tommy Lee and dated Tommy Lee. So I read this book, and almost the entire book that Bobby Brown writes is about dating Tommy Lee. It's almost the entire book. So then I'm like, okay, I want to hear the other side. Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee in his book. Well, first of all, his book was so weird because every chapter starts off him talking to his penis.
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I mean, this guy. Listen. I mean, I love my Motley Crue. I love them. I love him so much. But remember, we went to see them in. Wait, were you there? No. You didn't go to that concert? Motley Crue, Poison and Def Leppard. And Joan Jett. And Joan Jett was badass. And she performed at 4:00 clock and was home by 5.
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Oh, and just got her money and walked away just happy as a clam. I'll bet.
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Yeah, it started real early because there were so many bands. And she, quote, unquote, opened, which was crazy. But I remember at one point, Tommy Lee pulled his, like, Chihuahua out of his pants. Or, you know, he made some joke, and I was like, what are we doing? What are we doing, guys? We're too old for this now.
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B
Yeah, the joke is run out. But so I'm like, his every chapter starts with him talking to his penis, I think. And then he talks. He tells the story. And at the end of the chapter, Pamela Anderson basically corrects him for all the things he's like. Because he has bad memory. And so he. I was like, oh, he's going to talk about Bobby Brown. Because Bobby Brown acted like they're practically married. And then he does the whole book without mentioning her one time. So I'm like, whose story is writing? Like, is this, like, the biggest thing that happened to her? And she's, like, writing about it. At the end of one chapter, Pam was like, you actually weren't dating that person. You're actually dating Bobby Brown. And that was the only time his name. Her name was even mentioned. So I went from there. Somehow that went to Howard Stern's book.
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A
Okay.
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B
And from Howard Stern, it jumped to Jen Kirkman's book.
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A
Okay, that's. Yeah, I would like that. That's our friend Jen Kirkman.
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B
That went to Scott Whalen's book. And somehow from there, it jumped to Holly Madison down the rabbit hole, who was a girlfriend. What's it called? The girlfriend next Door. Hugh Hefner.
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A
One of Girls Next Door. Yeah.
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B
And that jumped to the Elton John book, and that jumped to the Willie Nelson book.
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A
Was that good?
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B
I liked Willie Nelson book a lot. And that jumped to Matthew McConaughey's book, and then that jumped to Fleas book. Like, it just. It goes down, like, all of a sudden. I've read, like, 10 books, and they all were good, but I wasn't, like, necessarily would have went out of my way to read. And then I went to Ozzy Osbourne's book.
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A
Wait, how. How can you see that trail? That's so interesting.
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B
I just. I'm looking from the bottom of my thing and kind of, like, watching how it goes.
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A
Okay. Yeah.
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B
But it's like all these rockers and all that stuff. Whereas, like, that's not really, like, up my alley. But I just went down the. Matthew McConaughey's book was really good. I really liked it. It wasn't just, like, about his life. It's kind of good, like, Lessons, too. And Willie Nelson's book. I didn't realize that Willie Nelson. Because he was just, like, a pot smoker forever, and he thought, like, the government was kind of out to get him. And one time they came and just took away, like, all his land, all his possessions. Said he owed, like, all this money to the government. And he was just. They took out everything he had after being, like, really. After being, like, really famous for, like, 20 years. And I think this is probably what that would have been in the 60s, 70s, whatever it was. And they just came and took everything he had. He started back at zero, in the middle of, like, his prime.
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A
And he was. And he was. Were they right? Like, he wasn't paying. He did some, like, not pay taxes or something.
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B
He didn't think so, but it was up for dispute. So I didn't realize that he started from zero, halfway through his career, which is crazy.
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A
And then. And he's still going. I mean, he's still.
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B
I mean.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How old is Willie Nelson? 89.
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A
89? Yeah. I don't know if he's that old. What does it say?
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B
It says 92.
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A
Oh. For some reason I thought that's crazy because he was just, like, performing at the Hollywood bowl not that long ago.
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B
No, he's. He's still on tour. Yeah, boy, like, just still smoking weed.
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A
Every day, Living his best life, having a good time.
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B
Has 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 kids. Nelson's five foot six, by the way.
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A
Is he only five six?
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B
A little. Little guy?
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A
Well, you know, like, people. When you get older, you supposedly shrink. I think it's already happening to me, so that's probably.
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B
It's not happening to you.
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A
Used to be 5 5, and now I'm a little bit under.
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B
I'm exactly 6ft tall. And you know what? Someone told me once that ran a dating site. They said every guy. Whenever a Guy says he's 6 foot tall, he's 5 11.
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A
Oh.
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B
So if you're 6ft tall, say you're 6 foot one. But I am. I am dead. Dead on the crosshairs of six feet.
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A
Tall on the crosshairs.
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B
Like, dead, like, in the middle of the line. I got Measured at all these NFL things and I was like dead on.
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A
Oh, well, there you go. No, no, nothing is up for a debate. Sorry guys, we're a little all over this. All over the place on the, on this episode. But I was just. What's the Lisa Jewell book that we read? Oh, then she was gone. Okay. So I was just looking back. You inspired me to look back a little bit further in my reading from, from a little bit ago. Like it's like it's going back quite a ways. I went back to the bottom of my Kindle. I found you, Lisa Jewel, watching you. Lisa Jewellery. Apparently I was a fan before the book. Lisp. The Guest List by Lucy Foley. That's a good one. The Third Wife by Lisa Jewell. A good marriage. Kimberly McCray, the hunting party. Lucy Foley, Home Before Dark. Riley sager, little whispers. K.L. slater. The girl she wanted. K.L. slater. I mean, you guys, it sounds like I'm just reading it. Lifetime movies right here. But they're all good.
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B
It also sounds like a vacation. Being on a vacation. You read the same type of book that all sound the same and you read like five on one trip.
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A
That's a good point.
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B
Like let's take a Mexico trip right there.
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A
Yeah. Unfaithful right after this was probably July of a couple of years ago and we were. Now there's one called the Last thing He Told Me, which I'm sure you guys know. That was the book turned, it was turned into a TV series with Jennifer Garner. Remember that one? I think it was Apple tv. They're doing a second season.
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B
Oh, right. Oh, I, that one didn't like, didn't go well. I thought, I thought the book, I thought the book was so much better than I felt. It didn't. It wasn't. It didn't adapt well to screen.
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A
I didn't think it did either. But people really liked it enough that it's going to have a second season and the second season is going to have to just be completely made up because that was. The book ended where the series ended. But I, I did read the other day that she's, that's another one. She's got that Jennifer Garner and then she's got five Star Weekend. Ellen Hildebrandt's book that's coming out as the TV show anyway. And then I read a book called the Wrong Family. Oh, I mean I was, I read a book called Or Else by Joe Hart.
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B
I like like chat GTB could like name all your books for you. It's like there's like a. I have.
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A
Quite a few by this KL Slater. So I'm curious if any of you listeners have read a Kale Slater book, because I apparently liked them because I read a bunch of them. And if you've read any, let me know because maybe she's going to have to become one of Sarah's picks soon. Gotta start thinking about August already, which is crazy.
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B
Oh, God.
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A
Tell everyone what wedding you're going to this weekend.
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B
I'm going to the wedding of Brett Lawther, who is a teammate of mine for three years when I played for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders in Canada. And he. I think they are. They are. No, they already did get, like, officially married. They just want to have a party. So they're having a bunch of people on like, a private deck in the stadium and just kind of doing a celebration there before the game, during the game. Then after the game, my buddy's going to come up and we're going to party till midnight, as the invitation says.
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A
Oh, it just stay till midnight. Wow, that's late for me especially.
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B
I had to wake up and leave the next morning. My God. It's not. It's not easy eating to and from Saskatchewan.
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A
Okay, now, so if any of you think it's weird I'm not going with him to a wedding. That was. It was kind of a collective decision that we're going back in September when he is inducted into the Saskatchewan hall of Fame. And we felt that my trip in September would be enough without going also. It's also crazy expensive right now.
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B
Here's the thing right now is I think less Canadians are coming to the US for obvious reasons. They're going to Mexico. So there's less planes coming into the US Meaning there's less planes going back, meaning everything's more expensive when you do jump on one of those flights. So it was. I think. I think my flight's over $1,000American to get to my hometown. It's really expensive right now.
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A
Yeah, it was crazy when we were looking. And then. And this summer, too, on just in general is more. But we figured. And I'm going back in September, so nobody's going to miss me except for maybe you.
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B
You will be missed, babe. I'll miss you.
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A
Okay, thank you.
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B
Hold on. I just came across a book on here. If you're a sports fan, you might really like this book. It's called the Secret Apartment. And this guy, when he was in his 20s, it's a true story. And during COVID he started writing these, like, Short stories. Like, it was obviously just like stories about when he did this. He lived in the Vet in Philadelphia. The stadium. The Vet, where the Eagles and the Phillies played. Yeah, his dad, I forget his dad ran the concessions or the parking, but that stadium was like massive and there's all this stuff underneath. And he kind of found this room underneath and turned it into his apartment secretly.
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A
Oh really?
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B
And he lived there for like three years.
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A
Oh my God. Wait, what's it called again?
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B
The Secret Apartment. And so during COVID this guy started like writing about his time. Like you like almost like a diary online. Like, I lived in this apartment and I like, no one knew I was there. And it became like kind of like a mythical thing amongst players. When players would come to town, they'd come like visit him in his apartment. Be like, are you serious? Like, live down here? Like when players would leave town for like the winter, they didn't know they'd come back. They'd like, I'll just leave my furniture with you. Like, yeah. Then he just like furnished his house with or his apartment in the stadium with like other guys, like furniture when they got cut or got released and left. It's. It's kind of a hilarious story. He never got caught.
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A
That's crazy. So. So he just eventually moved out and then wrote about it.
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B
Yeah, like years later. I bet this was like the night it was. The Vet was like one of those really old stadiums. It's like massive, massive stadium. And I think there's just probably like rooms within the stadium that no one even knew about. And he just turned one of them into his apartment. And it's just, it's a great story.
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A
Maybe I'm going to read that after I finish this. The crash by Frida McFadden. Because I think I'm going to finish it probably tonight because it's. It seems like a quick one and I'm just kind of blowing through it.
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B
Well, I'll have a lot of time Tomorrow for my 5 hour layover in Calgary to read, so.
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A
Oh, Jesus. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry.
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B
The actual flights aren't that bad to my hometown. It's like a two and a half hour flight to Calgary and then a 45 minute flight to Calgary, but I've never done it once with less than a three hour layover. Like not even close.
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A
I know, and it's funny. If you like, if you're looking, I'll go, oh, here's one that's not that expensive and it'll have a 24 hour layover. Like, what the fuck do you think? I know, I'd rather. I mean, I'd rather figure it out financially than, or, you know, or just eat it financially than sit in an Airport for 24 hours. I mean, at that point you got to leave and go get a hotel and I don't know, but I mean, you got to be crazy.
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B
We have a friend that takes those type of flights all the time.
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A
Yes.
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B
And he drives crazy.
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A
Yeah, I lecture him on a constant basis. What are we doing, buddy?
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B
Like literally a lot of you in the Calgary. Calgary is like a major hub in like relatively speaking, for Canada. And the. My town is the closest town, about 500 miles. But from that there's maybe like two or three flights a day that come in from there. And on the other side is Winnipeg. And that flight, that plane's pretty. Like that airport's not very busy. I remember getting there one time on a Sunday night. And they're like, you missed your flight due to technical difficulties, Mechanical difficulties. I go, like, when can you get me back out? And they're like, Wednesday. This is a Sunday night. Like, I just wanted to get home. And they're like, they're like, Wednesday, you know. You know what I did that. Tell you the story. They're like, well, there's, there's a. I'm like, I'm not staying here till Wednesday. Like, I'm not like, it was mechanical. So you have to, you have to put me up for three nights if we're gonna do this. And they're like, okay, well there's a Greyhound. I go, let me stop you there. No, there's not a Greyhound anything. No, not with, Not a seat with my name on it. They ended up getting a limo for me to go home. 350 miles.
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A
Oh my God. They did.
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B
They drove me home that night in a limo.
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A
Did they pay for it?
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B
Yes.
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A
Wow.
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B
But it's not like it was relaxing. This was like midnight. It was like midnight till 6am like, it was miserable. I don't know.
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A
Right.
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B
But I think that, I think when I was just like, I'm not getting on a Greyhound bus and I'm not sleeping here for three, three nights. So like, figure it out. Because I mean, to put me up in a hotel for three nights and have to give. Pay for part of my food is probably more expensive than a. A car service there and back.
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A
I was about to say, thinking of it. Yeah. Once they, once they have to put you up. Because that's what I always think when I Understand if it's, if you're, it's a last minute, you're scraping things together. I, I'm not judging people other than our friend Logan that takes these 24 hour layovers because I know he doesn't need to. I'm just like, by the time you eat, drink, do whatever else you have to do in this airport, you were gonna spend the same amount of money. Maybe not the same, but still, is it really worth losing an entire day?
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B
1, 1 day on the road is like hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Like you're, you're taking an Uber to the airport. 20 bucks, you're getting a Uber to the hotel. Hotel is whatever a couple hundred bucks. You're eating, you're drinking, you wake up, you take another Uber. Now all of a sudden it's like 400, right?
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A
You could have just got, just paid a little more and done the, done the director. Anyway, I don't know how we ended up on the, on a rant about, I don't know, connections to Canada, but this is a random episode for you guys because it's a random Monday with no assigned reading. So that was kind of fun. Hopefully you guys enjoyed, enjoyed our, our randomness today. Join us on Patreon the book lisp for $5 a month for extra content. Join us the Book listeners is our Facebook group. Come see us July 18th, will me July 18th in Salem, Oregon at the Grand Theater. That show will sell out, so get your tickets now. Sarah Col stable Hall. August. August 15th in San Antonio. And thanks for being listeners.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Bye bye. The Book List.
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B
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