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The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast
Allie Schnacky and Natasha Bure- Moving Past Shame
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Candace is joined by Allie Schnacky (JWLKRS Worship) and Natasha Bure for “Girls Under Pressure.” How do friendships change when you start dating? Can you find love in a world of dating apps?
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Candace Cameron Bure
When you do things that are shameful or you're not proud of, it's so easy to keep them hidden. And then you have almost this hardened heart over it. Like it's so hard to scratch the surface of of what doing those things even feels like, or, you know, the shame that you do carry. Every person makes mistakes, and I think when you are able to kind of like get those out of the closet, the weight is just lifted off your shoulders because it's no longer a secret. It's no longer just yours.
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Ally Schnacki
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Natasha Bure
Hey.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Long time no see.
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Ally Schnacki
How you doing?
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Candace Cameron Bure
Great.
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Natasha Bure
Doing good.
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Ally Schnacki
Good. I'm so happy that you're here. This has been a really. A really great season. I know that a lot of moms are going to appreciate this, as well as a lot of ladies your age just being open and vulnerable and sharing. So thanks.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Happy to be here.
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Ally Schnacki
This week's episode, we are talking about our biggest mistakes. Feeling shame in the past, regret. And how do we overcome it? Can we overcome it? Will God ever forgive me? This Psalm 103:12 says, as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us. So we know the word of God says that he does forgive us. But let's talk about when we've done something that we regret, we feel shame. How do we. How do we work through that?
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Natasha Bure
I think for me, we. Not one of us has ever not done something we regret, we wish we could take back. And so I think that that is probably the most comforting thing that we can understand. First going into this conversation is. I mean, I even talked about it in the last episode is there are even things in my relationship. You know, I'm bringing that up not because it's the only area of my life, but because I believe the enemy uses relationships to bring on so much shame when boundaries are crossed. And for me and my boyfriend Austin, it's not like we ever went all the way and crossed, like, the boundary we said we never would, but we. We crossed a boundary that we had put in place. And I think that for me, I realized quickly on that shame can be a vessel and a vehicle to drive you deeper and deeper if you don't identify it right away. And so for me and Austin, our relationship, when we first crossed that boundary, the enemy would come into my mind and tell me, well, you already did it, so you might as well do the next thing. You might as well go all the way now. You already messed up. You're already impure. You're already not perfect. And you know that was a lie straight from the pit of hell. And so that's. That's really what I want to start this with, is identifying, like, we know who God is. He is love. He is joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, self control. He calls us higher. He convicts us because he wants the best for us. He doesn't condemn us to keep us down. And so recognizing that if shame is not God, it is the enemy trying to steal, kill, and destroy and rob us from our God, Given identity. And I think that that's the first place, the first thing I really want to share is if you're feeling shame, just know that God's not putting that upon you. That's the enemy trying to drive you away from him. You know, I even think back to the Garden of Eden, the first sin ever committed when Eve ate the apple, gave it to Adam. What was their initial instinct? To hide from God because they were ashamed. The enemy is after our connection with God, and that's what we have to realize, you know?
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah, it's a, it's such an important perspective to refocus. I forget all the time in my daily life when I am having a hard time going through whatever. It's a frustrating day. And I forget about the spiritual battle that's going on around me. I forget about the spiritual realm. And it is so eye opening when I remember, like, this is not just about my flesh and blood, the here and the now, what I can see and feel and who I'm talking to in this moment. But there, there are other greater things at work that I cannot see in the spiritual realm. And the, the enemy is always fighting for our soul. And there he's poking at us from all different ways. And a lot of times that's mentally, they're just, you know, he's whispering lies into our minds to make us, um, keep remembering things that God's already forgiven us for.
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Natasha Bure
So true.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah. Natasha, what about you? Do you, when you think of past times of shame, do you still feel shameful about them? Do you feel angry about them? Have you overcome any of them?
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Candace Cameron Bure
I think it's funnier. I mean, not funny that you ask, but during, was it Labor Day weekend when we were all in Texas and I was sharing a story with someone and I remember you came up and you were like, you told, you told them about this because it was something that I have had so much shame over. And it's been such a hard part for the viewers who don't know what I'm talking about. Obviously, when I was growing up, I had a very difficult relationship with my parents, especially during my middle school, early high school years. Would get in a lot of arguments and just behaved in a way that was like, super not appropriate. And it was just like a heavy time, I think, for everyone in my family and to the point where, you know, my parents were trying to seek help from other people of how to better parent me and, you know, just figuring out what's going on because something obviously wasn't clicking for me. And I carried so much shame in knowing the way that I behaved. And I think the way that I treated you and the way that I treated my brothers. And when I went to camp, I remember some of our counselors were. I don't wanna say informed, but, you know, they. They were aware of maybe the situation or something, because even how you got me into camp was so last minute.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Candace Cameron Bure
And I would just pretend like everything was fine, like nothing was wrong at home and our family was perfect because I just had so much shame over it and, you know, just these big blowouts that would happen and, you know, my temper being so terrible and all those things. And for a long time, I was so embarrassed about all of these, you know, big blowouts that would happen and things like that. Even to the point where, like, my brothers would kind of taunt me if ever I was not being nice to them, they would be like, well, I'm gonna bring it up. I'm gonna bring it up in front of people or whatever. And, you know, sometimes they would. In just a joking way or things like that. But I carried so much shame about it, and I really wouldn't talk to anybody about it. And when I really had that moment of coming to the realization that the Lord is going to take me as I am and forgive me for all the things that I've done wrong, and he has so much grace for me and care for me, it was like a weight lifted off my shoulders to the point where then I'm going, well, then why do I care if anyone else knows if he's forgiven me and I'm good with Christ and I know that I've repented and I'm now gonna change from the ways that I once acted and I'm going to be, you know, a new being. Then why do I carry shame around the people? And why do I care what they think? And so from then on, I'm, like, super open about whatever and sharing all these, you know, crazy stories that I won't get into because there's so many. But I was telling. I was telling someone about them, and my mom was so shocked that I was just, like, sharing this information because for so long I did care. Carry so much shame about it, and I was so embarrassed about it. And I think because I've been set free, it's almost like, well, that's a different version of me that has no.
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Natasha Bure
Power over you anymore.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Exactly.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah. How do you. What do you think helped you? I mean, can you walk us through those steps? Because it's Going from, I felt so much shame, but now I felt set free. But what's the. The interim part? How did you feel set free?
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Candace Cameron Bure
For me, it was being honest and having conversation about it.
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Ally Schnacki
With who?
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Candace Cameron Bure
With anybody, I think. Like, I remember when I went to camp and I would have conversations with my counselors that were a few years older than me or even my friends or, you know, even just the condition of what.
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Ally Schnacki
The things that you had done.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Not even the things that I had done. Like, honestly, how they made me feel, because what's done is done. But I think there was just a lot of it that I was like, I'm just. I'm just confused or I'm feeling this. And I feel like when you do things that are shameful or you're not proud of, it's so easy to keep them hidden. And then you have almost this hardened heart over it. Like, it's so hard to scratch the surface of. Of what doing those things even feels like or, you know, the shame that you do carry. And so then having those conversations where I would just be sobbing to my best friends or to people in my youth group or things like that, of just going, like, I just feel terrible about it. Like, I just feel awful. It sits in my mind. I replay those memories. Like, they make me emotional. Things like that.
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Ally Schnacki
And you feel like a bad person.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Totally. I felt like a horrible human. And I think that it was tough because those. Those moments were in the past, but it still played in my mind all the time, and I still felt the shame. Even though, you know, was share.
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Ally Schnacki
After you would share those things with your friends or your counselors, was it their reaction or acceptance that helped you feel like you could keep sharing or was setting you free?
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Candace Cameron Bure
I think it was just the fact that, like, it was no longer just mine. It was also just out. And I think not even in, like, a public format, but I was just able to share with someone. And it wasn't this thing that I had to, like, hold so close and tight that it was embarrassing. It was like, I told somebody I got it off my chest. And I will say everyone met me with such kindness and empathy about the situation or anything. Like, anytime I've come to someone and said, I'm really disappointed I did this, and I'm grateful that I have those people that have met me with obviously, you know, empathy and kindness, but also accountability and going, yeah, like, I hear this, but every person makes mistakes. And I think when you are able to kind of, like, get those out of the closet, the weight is just lifted off your shoulders because it's no longer secret. It's no longer just yours.
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Ally Schnacki
I think that's why the Lord tells us to confess our sins 100%.
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Natasha Bure
Yeah. It's like the longer it sits in the dark, the more it has power over you. And I know one of the most impactful things for me is when you keep things in the dark. The longer you keep them in the dark, the more it can fester in your mind and the enemy can drive you into this mental mindset of, you're a horrible person. You've disqualified yourself from how God wants to use you. Why do you think you can do this? Why do you think you're that Nobody wants to talk to you. Like, shame's whole purpose is to drive us away from our identity, our creator, the people that love us most, because we want to go hide away from them. Like, I know for me, my sisters look up to me. I know it. I'm their older sister, you know, and. And I don't know if you feel that with your siblings, too, but for me, I want to set a good example for them so bad, but I also want to be real with them so they don't repeat the same things I did. And so the other day, actually, a couple weeks ago, there was something in my life that, you know, I wanted to keep in secret. And I ended up sitting with my sister on my bed and just telling her. It just came out. And in that moment, she confessed something to me, and she said, allie, I've been dealing with that same exact thing. And in that moment, all of those lies that the enemy built up in my head for so long about who I was, it's almost like a weight was freed not only from me, but from her, too. Because I realized that thing that I felt like I'm the only one that does this. I'm the only one that feels like this. Yeah, you're not the only one that is going through the struggle that you're going through. The Bible actually tells us, like, you're like that. What you're going through is not. Not common to mankind. But Jesus came. He was tempted in every way that we were, yet he had victory. And so we have that hope of having victory. So I think it just goes down to from there, how do we actually have a repentant heart so that we don't have to stay in that shame, but we can really be free?
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Another thing that I know personally helped me during that time of shame and even just now in. In my daily Life is the vulnerability within my community. And I know there was one conversation that I had with Lev one time, we were just like, sitting in my room, like, pretty similar to you and your sister, and we were talking. And I've always put Lev on such a pedestal in terms of his faith just because he's, you know, so steadfast, so diligent, all the things. And I remember we had this conversation and he opened up to me just about things that he was struggling with. And it was the first time that I actually seen him not look perfect to me. And I was. My mind was blown. And not to say that it made me feel any better, but the fact that this person who, you know, I look up to in so many ways also has the same struggles was very encouraging in the fact that we all go through these things. And honestly, the fact that he was willing to share something like that with me made me go, okay, I'm going to let down a wall and I'm going to share something as well. And I think that that's where community can really meet you and help you in those situations when you just. You don't have it in you to just flat out say something. And I think that's where even going back to the social media conversation, not that you're gonna go, you know, confess your sins on social media and things like that, but it is hard because there are so many people that aren't met with that or don't have that community that does cultivate a, you know, a honest conversation. And I think that that's. That's really difficult. And I know for me, even when you. Anytime I feel like we have a conversation and you're honest, because again, I always, I see you at home and things like that, but I also, you know, you're such a businesswoman and you have your things together. And whenever we have conversations where you do let me into, you know, little parts that you're struggling as much as I am, like, wow, you know, that's eye opening and things like that. It's very encouraging to me. And so I think for anyone of any age, whether you're a parent, whether your child, allowing yourself to be vulnerable is honestly one of the most encouraging things to the other person. It could even be you like me wanting it to get off my chest, but maybe then it would encourage you or vice versa. And so I would just encourage that. Open communication.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah, Very, very much. I know that with that being said, there are people that have said. But I have told a friend that I thought I could trust. And then they burned me. They went around and talked and told someone else. And so that trust issue is so, so important in who you talk to and who you tell. And I mean, have you, either of you dealt with that when someone has betrayed your trust, when you've been vulnerable?
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Candace Cameron Bure
I know I definitely have in, you know, even some of my closest friends where I tell them something that's really vulnerable. And it's either gotten back to me that other people have heard or things like that. And I think that's also where I've learned to seek wise counsel and specific things when I'm going for specific advice. And that's not to say that, you know, all of your friends have a certain, you know, group or area in your life. But I know that, like, if I'm really struggling with something in my faith, I'm going to go to someone that is trustworthy and knows their stuff and that I. That I really want them to sort of breathe that life into me and knowing, okay, well, maybe this friend isn't the best for this region of my life. You know, I think that's maybe how I've dealt with that.
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Natasha Bure
This actually just recently happened to me, and it was with one of the closest people that I would literally trust with my life. And so it really caught me off guard. If I'm just being honest, it hurt really bad when I heard through the grapevine that the. That that person had shared with multiple people something that I had entrusted to them. The Lord had asked me to give up and surrender something to him that was really valuable to me. And now what was hard for me to just hold to myself, and now everybody knew, you know, and that. That really hurt me. And it was somebody in my life that I didn't want to lose. And I think the easy thing in those situations would be to completely cut off that person and never talk to them again.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
But the truth is, is it says in Scripture that love holds no record of wrongs. And so I did what scripture said. I confronted that person. My heart was hurt. It was shattered. It was broken. But you know what? They had a repentant heart. And not everybody has that. Not everybody's willing to say, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that, and actually, like, earn your trust back. But this person did, and so they're still in my life. And there's a saying, and it's so true. It says, trust is earned in drops and lost in buckets. And it's true. Like, trust takes so long to be earned. But if you betray someone's trust one time, like I'm probably not gonna tell that person anything for a really long time. Not because I don't love them, but because when somebody does something like that, like you just have your guard up a little bit if that's what they struggle with. Like I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut. But I'm so encouraged by this verse in Colossians chapter 3, and it's verses 13 through 14 and it says make allowance for each other's faults and forgive anyone who offends you. Remember, the Lord forgave you, so you must forgive others.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
And it's so, it's so humbling when you read that. Make an allowance for each other's faults because God's forgiven me.
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Natasha Bure
So when I love someone, I literally take their burdens on as if they're my own. And so my best friend, actually, in high school, I remember her going through this season where she was just kind of going down a path that, you know, she didn't really want to go down. And she would confide in me with these things that she was doing that she knew weren't right and she felt so shameful about. And so I felt that burden because I loved her so much. And I remember one day just getting ready, me and the Lord, and these thoughts were tormenting me in my mind of, like, the things that she told me. And I was praying and asking God, lord, how do I forget these things? Like, I love her so much, but I just can't stop thinking about these things. They're tormenting me. I don't know what to do. Like, I want to treat her like you treat her. And the Lord hit me so clear in that moment, and he said, stop bringing up something I told you I've already forgotten.
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Ally Schnacki
Hmm.
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Natasha Bure
And I. It took me a second because I knew that didn't come. I told you guys, God comes. And I know it's God speaking because it's a thought I would never have. Like, I'm not that smart. And so when God hit me with that, it was not only so encouraging to me with that relationship, but it was also encouraging in my own life when it. When it comes to shame that it's so easy once God has forgiven us to hold on. Because we don't understand how a God that's so perfect when we're so sinful could actually forgive us and wipe our slate clean. But he does. And why would I stand in a jail cell that's already open for me to walk out of? And so when it comes to being a good friend, I think that that's the very thing that we can do is remind those people that, yeah, that's what you might have done, but it's not who you are. Your mistakes don't define who you are. What God says about you defines who you are. He's so much more, like, concerned about who you are now and what you do now than what you did back then. And so confiding in each other, being real yourself. Encouraging. Pulling them up, not reminding them of what they did, but who they are, where they're going.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
Has been impacted for me.
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Ally Schnacki
So good. I'll read a little bit in. In Romans, because in Romans 10, because we keep saying that God forgives you, but some of you might want to know how and why God forgives you. So in Romans 10, this is verse 9, says, if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. One believes with the heart, resulting in righteousness. And one confesses with the mouth, resulting in salvation. For the scripture says everyone who believes on him will not be put to shame. And I'm gonna go, I'm gonna do a little bit. Read a little bit more. I'm gonna read a lengthy passage. Bear with me. But it's so good.
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Natasha Bure
Bring it on.
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Ally Schnacki
It's so good. I'm gonna read in Romans 8, it says. So this is. We're talking about shame. And our sin says, therefore there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. I don't know if I should stop and teach here or just read it through. But that law of sin and death, that would be the standard by which God would judge us. So we could say the standard of the ten Commandments. Have we upheld that law? No, we haven't. But because the law of the Spirit, that is the Holy Spirit, when we give our life to Christ, when the Holy Spirit comes upon us, we have the Spirit in us. So the life, the Spirit of life in Jesus Christ has set you free from the law of sin and death. That would be like Old Testament law. What the law could not do since it was weakened by the flesh, God did. He condemned sin in the flesh by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh as a sin offering. Again, Jesus was the perfect lamb, the perfect sacrifice, in order that the law's requirement would be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. So God fulfilled that law requirement and we are forgiven by our fleshly sins because of the Spirit of God who is now upon us because he died, took our sin through his death and blood, and then resurrection and sits with. Sits with God. For those who live according to the flesh have made their minds set on things of the flesh. But those who live according to the Spirit have their minds set on things of the Spirit. Now the mind of the flesh, and again, that is the body is death, but the mindset of the Spirit is life and peace. Again, that Spirit is with us in Christ. So the mindset of flesh is hostile towards God because it does not submit to God's law. And that's just the things that we do in our, in our own flesh and our own earthly desires that we as human nature don't want to submit. But indeed. But those who are in the, in the flesh cannot please God. However, you, however, are not in the flesh, but you are in the Spirit. And indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. If anyone does not have the Spirit, Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, then he who raised Christ from the dead will also bring your mortal bodies to life through his Spirit who lives in you. God is a life giver and he forgives us and there is no condemnation in him.
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Candace Cameron Bure
So, amen.
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Ally Schnacki
When you were talking, there's the word of the Lord.
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Natasha Bure
No, it's. So you know what, and that's the most powerful thing we could ever do right now is read what the word of God says. You know, and it reminds me so much of this verse. It's in Proverbs, chapter 24, verse 16, and it says, the godly may trip seven times, but they will get back up again. But one disaster is enough to overthrow the wicked. And that verse always encourages me because it reminds me what defines me is not how many times I fall. We're all going to make mistakes. Even still to this day, I'm going to make mistakes. What defines me is if I get back up again and say, I'm not going to stay down in who I was, I'm going to use this. The. The bad that the enemy intended for evil. It says in Scripture, God can turn for good. He can use our worst mistakes to set someone else free and encourage us. And so shame is such a liar.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah, it is a liar. And it's something too that I can replay over in my head or when I stumble and fall, I think like, why, why am I going back to this? Why am I doing this again? I don't even want to do this. Paul talks about that. And Paul just says, like, why do I do the things I don't want to do? I don't want to do this. And yet I keep doing it.
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Natasha Bure
So true.
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Ally Schnacki
And I so relate to him. I. I'm just like, yeah, God, I don't want to do any of these things, so why do I keep doing them and then replaying them in my mind? And yet what we have to do is renew our mind in the spirit. It's the renewal of what God says. So if God says there is no condemnation in me and that you are forgiven, that I need to take him for his word and know that, okay, I'm forgiven. And if I start to repeat that shame and that regret and the mind and the. The memories keep coming to mind, I have to say, nope, like, literally, Satan, you are not grabbing hold of this. I am forgiven. You are not repeating this in my mind. I am forgiven by God. And that's it. Like, I condemn this spirit. Like, walk away. Get away from me.
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Natasha Bure
Yeah.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Yeah.
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Ally Schnacki
And that's what the renewal of your mind in scripture is. And I. I constantly have to tell myself those things, but that's how I deal with that shame and regret and that replaying over and over, because I. I suffer from that all the time. You ever walk like you do? You. Whatever. You're at dinner with someone, you have a great time, but then you go home and you replay a conversation in your head over and over and over, and you're like, did I say something wrong? Should I have said that? Should I maybe have said this?
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Natasha Bure
What?
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Ally Schnacki
And I'm like, oh, like, no, that just stops right now. Because that, to me, is just the devil playing, trying to play tricks on my mind and make me stumble into thinking that I've done something wrong when I haven't. So, anyway, I know. Yeah. So we battle that spiritual realm every day. Should we take a listener question? Yeah. Okay. This is from Bethany. She asks, does God really forgive all sins? I'm carrying guilt around from something I did several years ago, and. And just when I think I'm past it, something triggers it, and I'm stuck feeling guilty again. I love Jesus, and I'm trying all the time to be more like him. I just beat myself up all the time for the mistake that I made.
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Natasha Bure
I think the biggest thing, because I felt that first, I just want to say I have. Literally.
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Candace Cameron Bure
Me, too.
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Ally Schnacki
We all have.
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Natasha Bure
And even still to this day, there are things the enemy loves to remind me of that I could sit there and I could dwell on, and it would bring me to a really dark place. But like you just said, Candace, I choose to believe that if God said he remembers my sin no more I'm going to believe it.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
Period.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
But I know for me, I had to learn in my life and this changed everything. That if I, and I brought this up earlier, but if I was not willing to give up that thing in my life that I was feeling shame from, I was never ever going to get freedom. And I think that's where a repentant heart needs to come into play. Because if I want to repent, but in the back of my mind I still have an open door to the enemy where I'm like, lord, I'm repenting, but I'm kind of double minded, thinking I'm still going to fall back into it again, then I mean, it can just run wild in my mind. I'm never going to get true freedom.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
But if we're really ready to surrender and say, God, I know this is going to be hard because I've opened this door, I'm going to have to train myself to not do this. But I want you more than I want this thing. And it's not just immorality or things like that. It's like, for example, when I was a kid, I really felt called to sing and then I bought into a lie. I wasn't a good singer. And I feel like I wasted 15 years of my life buying into that lie. How God's ever, how is he ever going to use me now that I wasted all that time? But I'm not going to believe that lie anymore.
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Ally Schnacki
Yeah.
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Natasha Bure
And so in Acts, chapter 3, verse 19, it says repent then and turn to God so that your sins may be wiped out. That times of refreshing may come from the Lord. And so if you repent and you say, God, I really don't want this anymore. And I'm not just going to say it. I'm actually ready to surrender it, repent, turn to God and he will give you that refreshing.
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Ally Schnacki
You know, he really does. And he'll also convict your heart. So if you're, you go and you know, there's a difference. I want to. Bethany, I'll remind you. There's also a difference of falling into sin and diving into sin. When we dive into sin, it's intentional. We know it's wrong, but we're choosing to do it anyway. But sometimes we stumble, we go and, and when we stumble, we kind of trip up. But God, when, when we are in the spirit and we're talking to God and we're, we're. Because I talk to God all day long and God will convict of the heart. So when you stumble into sin. God will put something in your heart to go, hey, you sure you want to do that? And that's your opportunity to say, oh, I'm being reminded. And no, I have the chance to make a different decision right now so I can turn around and walk away from this. I don't have to go do that.
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Natasha Bure
So good.
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Ally Schnacki
And so it's listening to the Holy Spirit, and that is a win right there, if you're even on your way to go do something. But you get convicted in that moment and you turn away. Look at that as an amazing win in your life and a prompting from God and then remember what that prompting was like so you get more attuned to listening it, listening to it, and for that, all the days of your life.
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Natasha Bure
That's so good, Candace.
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Candace Cameron Bure
I agree. Nothing more to add. I agree with it all.
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Natasha Bure
You guys are killing it. So true.
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Ally Schnacki
Well, this is great. Thank you, ladies. Will you come back for another episode, perhaps?
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Candace Cameron Bure
Of course.
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Ally Schnacki
Okay, good. Well, if you've been following along for a while, you've heard me say that life is like a roller coaster. And it's true. Life can be so messy and confusing, but we get to go through these ups and downs together. And when life's pressures feel like it's too much, we can be transformed by the renewing of our mind. So we made a simple gratitude guide for you this season with daily reminders and scripture to encourage you. Just go to Candace.com to find the link and it's also in our show notes. Okay. Until next time, be grateful all day, every day. Candy Rock Entertainment. All rights reserved.