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The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast
What If Your Life Was Never About You?
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What If Your Life Was Never About You?
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I was like, whoa, whoa, hold up. Back up. Two steps back. God, how are you making me? But my life isn't about me. You don't have to overhaul your whole life in 2026 to feel better. Sometimes it starts with something as simple as your snacks. That's why I love Masa chips, you guys. They are so good. They become one of my favorite pantry snacks because they're made with real intentional ingredients. Just three of them. Or organic nixtamalliized corn, sea salt and 100% grass fed beef tallow. That's it. No seed oils, no mystery chemicals. Just real food. And they don't just sound good, they taste incredible. Snacking on Masa feels completely different than regular chips. I feel satisfied, light and energized. No crash, no bloating, no sluggish feeling afterward because they're made with real food and they're more filling. And so I'm not mindless reaching for another bag. Personally, my favorite is original. If you want to give Masa a try, go to masachips.com bure and use the code BURE. That's B U R E for 25% off your first order or scan the QR code. And if you don't feel like ordering online, Masa is now available nationwide at Sprouts, so be sure to grab a couple of bags I'm excited to share something that's close to my heart, the history and the people of Israel As a follower of Jesus, Israel is where it all started. It's where he walked, taught and ministered. The Bible reminds us that God never breaks his promises. Romans 11:28 says that the people of Israel are deeply loved because of the promises God made long ago and he's faithful to keep those promises. That's why I'm sharing with you about the international fellowship of Christians and Jews. For over 40 years they've provided food, shelter and life saving aid to Israel's most vulnerable, especially Holocaust survivors and the elderly. Will you join me in standing with the people in Israel? To learn more and find out how you can help, visit ifcj.org that's ifcj.org. Life is like a rollercoaster, but it's so much better when we go through it together. Welcome to the Candace Cameron Bure Podcast. I made this just for you. This entire season is about living with honesty, integrity and purpose. And Madison Pruitt Trout shares stories from her book Dare to Be True. If you're watching on YouTube, click to subscribe. Give this video a thumbs up and tap the bell so you won't miss any videos. Come join us. Hi, Madison.
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Hi.
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We have two weeks left. That's.
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I'm honestly kind of sad. I feel like we've spent too much time together to now have to leave each other.
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I know. You know, I. This is how my podcast has always been formatted in that I have a guest for so many weeks, and then everyone, I, I, I gain a new bestie after every podcast season. And I'm always so sad when we're getting closer to the end.
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I know. It is. It's like we, yeah, we've really, we've bonded. We've learned a lot about each other. We spent a lot of time together.
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We have. And I'm very grateful that you've been here and you're, you've just been sharing with us, and I'm so encouraged by you. I truly am. And you are such a wonderful role model for so many people of all ages. I'm learning from you. I could be your mom. But, like, I just, I love the wisdom that you've brought, and I love your passion and you. Your desire for. To not only know God yourself, but for others to know God as you do. It's so wonderful.
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Thank you. That's so kind. I've truly enjoyed this so much and have. Yeah. I'm just so thankful to be here.
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Tell me. I love to belly laugh. Do you ever cry when you laugh? When was the last time you belly laughed so hard or you, you cried because you laughed so hard? I.
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So I'm not a snorter when I laugh, but sometimes I'll laugh so hard that I'll snort a little bit or I'll cry. Like, literally, like, tears start coming down. Honestly, my husband and I, we have the best time. He is, like, the funniest person in the world to me. And we just will get going sometimes and laugh so hard over the silliest, dumbest things. Usually it's like, late at night and we're, like, delirious or something and just making silly comments. I think the most recent time was we were with some of our good friends and we just randomly decided to go bowling, which we, like, never go.
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I love that.
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But we were like, yeah, sure, let's go bowling. And our friend has a Tesla truck, which. Those are crazy cool, interesting, weird cars.
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Yes.
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Well, they have a trunk, like, in the front. I don't know if you've seen. Yes. Anyways, we're having this debate of, like, can a human being fit in the front of the truck?
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Go in, like, A coffee.
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Listen, Candace, everyone tried it and no one. And listen, I'm so competitive. And everyone tried it and no one could get it. And I was like, oh, I could get it. Like the trunk. Because the trunk wouldn't shut. It kept like, you know, like it would detect someone and so it would like, open back up. And I was like, oh, no, I could get it to shut. And so I crawl in there and I bundle together and it starts shutting and it closes and it's pitch black in there and there's like no ac and I start panicking and I'm like, if they can't open it, okay. Then I'm like, don't panic. This is the worst thing I can do. And anyways, thankfully they opened it back up, but we just thought it was the funniest thing. They thought it was so hilarious the way that I like, scrunched down and like, no one else could get it in. But I was like, like, all right, I'm gonna make this happen. And that's just my competitive self. So I think that one, that one
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really, that's so funny really got us. I did that once. I did a lot of mystery movies. They were the Aurora Teagarden mysteries. And Mary Lou Henner is a really well known actress that played my mom in the Mysteries. And we, when we would shoot the movies, there were about five movies that we just lived together. We rented an Airbnb while we were filming and we stayed together and we got to know each other so well. I love her so much. She's hilar. But we were being so silly and giddy one day and it was the same thing. We were doing laundry and she looked at the dryer and she looks at me and she's like, you should get in that dryer and I'm going to take a picture of you. Said, okay. And I crawled in the dryer. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. But I crawled in the dryer and she just took pictures of me. And we laughed so hard and sent them to our friends. Like, this is what happens when you're bored and you're locked in a house together.
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Not me now. Being tempted to go try to put myself in a dryer to see if I fit it.
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I'm a real. I have, I have much shorter arms and legs than you do. And I feel like I could fit in any dryer. I'm just a little pocket person.
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I don't know what this says about us, but the first thing that came to mind yet was shutting Myself into a little small, tight space. But it was, that was the last. I think that was last week. So that was the last good belly laugh that I had.
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But that's, that's a Dr. Today is my last belly laugh because I have tears in my eyes right now.
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Just remembering.
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Remembering and thinking of us both crawling into tight, closed spaces.
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The dryer is.
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That was good.
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Oh, man.
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Well, we have our first listener question today from Jennifer and she asks. It kind of reflects on what we talked about last week about community. And she says after 10 years of working my tail off, we're finally in a place where I can be a stay at home mom to my two autistic kids. We now live abroad for my husband's job and growing our faith and my kids faith is a top priority. But we lost our church family when we moved. How can I continue to grow without our community?
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I feel like you did a really good job of touching on that a little bit last time when you were talking about still staying connected socially with people who don't live in your same community. And I think that's a beautiful way to stay connected with. I also would just add on to that, you know, just finding a new local church and getting super plugged into a new local church, which I know can be challenging, especially when you move abroad. I'm sure there's like, you know, could
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be language challenge where you live.
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Right to that. But I think as much as you can, just continuing to put yourself in those environments, hosting people over at your home for different things. But yeah, that's been really important for my husband and I every time we've moved. We've moved a few times since being married and just getting plugged into a new local church and joining, joining a small group, finding friends that way.
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Yeah. And sometimes it takes time. I always say if you're moving to a new city, give it a year. I know that sounds like forever, but it takes time to meet people and build new community. But I definitely would put the effort into growing that community in person. But reach out to your friends that are in your old community and try and stay in touch online or through meetings and like zoom meetings or phone calls. I love that. That's pretty simple. Yeah. Okay. Well, we have gone, we've talked about so much. We've gone through some pretty heavy stuff. We've had some good laughs too. And we talked about community, but now like kind of wrapping a lot of this up. We're talking about purpose and living with purpose. And so tell us, tell us where we're going today.
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Tell us about purpose. I feel like this has been, I'd be so curious your thoughts on this too. I feel like it's honestly often changed for me in different seasons. Like, for me, I feel called to communicate truth and to challenge others with the word of God, teach others the word of God to speak the truth. And I do that through writing. I do that through podcasting. I do that through traveling and speaking. I do that through, you know, my local church and serving at my local church, discipling girls in my area. But now in entering momhood, I mean, I've really been praying and processing through with, with my husband of just what would it look like for me to maybe come back on some of these areas and really use these gifts, channeling my purpose in a little bit of a different way in this season of, you know, teaching and discipling Hosanna and, you know, pouring into her. And I know we've talked a little bit about, I've asked you, I think maybe this question on my podcast, but what that looked like for you in your season when you had littles at home and your purpose changed a little bit in that decade and that really did of life. And so I'd be curious your thoughts on that too. But I would say it has changed, you know, seasonally for me this far in my life. But I just believe that purpose is really your, your gifting and your passion coming together to glorify God. And so what are you gifted in? And then what are you really passionate about? And then putting that together and pursuing that thing and stewarding that thing to glorify God and to point others to God. I think we can put a lot of pressure on ourself of like, what is my purpose? What was I created to do?
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Yeah.
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And it can feel like very anxious and frustrating when it's like, ah, I don't know. Like that's, it's so scary. Like, what if I do the wrong thing? What if I miss my calling? What if I. Yeah. And it puts a lot of pressure on ourselves. But if you just really think about it, like, what am I gifted at doing? What have other people affirmed in my life that I'm really good at? And then what am I passionate about? And then putting those two things together and saying, now how can I steward this in a way that's going to glorify and honor God? I think is, is my favorite way to look at it. But I do think it's changed for me. Like, what would you say for You. I mean, you have a very successful career, but it's. It's changed in different seasons of your life.
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Sure. We did a whole season on purpose. I think it was season two, actually, right when we started the podcast. But, you know, over the years, it does sound like this big, huge, daunting question. What is my purpose in life? What is my existence here for? And the more I read the Bible, the more I studied, the more books I read, the more pastors and Bible teachers I talk to, and the more I just talk to God about it. It's pretty simple in that we are created to glorify God.
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Yeah.
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We're created for his pleasure, and we live that out by glorifying him in all the things that we do. And so God gives us those gifts and talents, and we get to steward them and use them just to make him happy. So there's so many ways to do that. But when we break it down, I feel like that takes the pressure off. Like, my purpose is to glorify God, so I'm not gonna miss the boat on anything. It doesn't matter if I have a career, if I go to college, if I have kids, if I have a family, if I'm single. None of those things are gonna. I don't have to have one or another in order to have purpose. Just my very existence is my purpose.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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No, that's like, God made me for his glory.
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Yes. And I don't know if you. I'm sure you get this a lot, too. I'll have people come up to me often and say, you know, I want to start a ministry or start a podcast. Like, how do I do it? What do I do? And there's nothing wrong with that. I think that's beautiful. And if you feel led to do it, you should. But I also. I want to continue to encourage my generation. You know, ministry is wherever your feet are, you know, and influence is the people that you're surrounded by. And you have an opportunity to make a difference everywhere that you go, because you're a carrier of God's presence. You have scripture written on your heart. You have access to the same thing that you have access to and I have access to because we have access to his spirit and the word of God and the people of God. And I just think sometimes we can. This. This culture has often really emphasized the, like, really big things. And I don't know, I just so often am, like, how are we stewarding the smaller, everyday moments? Like, are we being faithful with those moments? And that's where I personally get convicted a lot in Lord, am I living a life that truly pleases you? I know it can be, at least for me. I'll speak for me sometimes really easy to, you know, stand on a stage and really speak a message that God's put on my heart. But then maybe be disobedient when God tells me to go up and share the gospel with a coffee barista and someone that, you know, comes across my path that I feel like the Lord's tugging on my heart to really go and encourage or share my faith with. And I just think we can really put an emphasis on the wrong thing sometimes. And so stewarding those small moments and being faithful in those, quote, unquote, smaller seasons is really what gives us the ability to, you know, stand firm, stay true, and be faithful when maybe the bigger opportunities come.
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Yeah.
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And so that's it.
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It doesn't need to be a big opportunity to have purpose. And I think that's where it gets missed. And I think with the. With Gen Z, with. I'm like, I'm Gen X. Gen Z. Gen Z. You're Gen Z. Are you. You're actually my la.
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I'm on the last year of being a millennial. 96, I think. Right. I think that's the last year of Millennial.
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Isn't that like a gen. Genial right
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on the bottom, right on the border?
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I have seen that. But I think with, I'm going to say the younger generation than mine, because people, younger people are becoming successful faster. Yeah. It's just like my parents generation, the boomer generation, or. Or a Gen Xer. You had to. You had to go to college to be successful. Like, that was the mindset. You had to. There was no way you were gonna ever be in business or make a lot of money unless you went to college. But as the years have gone on, particularly through media and social media, people even younger are finding fame, are finding a calling, are getting instant gratification and success in things that they're doing. But I think that can fool a lot of the other people that aren't finding it quickly because they feel like, oh, then what? What is my purpose if I'm not becoming famous or I didn't create a technology that took off right away and I'm a billionaire all of a sudden. And yeah, the good news is you don't have to do all of that to have purpose.
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Totally. Well, and I love Jesus. It was so simple with Jesus. Like, he made it so clear. I mean, the greatest. The one who holds all power, authority, dominion, the name above every name. I mean, the. The person, God in the flesh. He said, I didn't come to. To. To be served. I came to serve. He did not come to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many. He showed us the true definition of influence service. He showed us what it looks like to be really great, which is to lay your life down and serve other people. And this world just has flipped it completely. It's. It's all about self. It's all about self glorification. It's all about building a kingdom for yourself. And I think even. It's even gotten a little tainted in the Christian, you know, fame space sometimes where, you know, you just can have this idea, I think that God was made for you and we've talked about it a lot, that we were made for his pleasure. God was not made for us. We were made for God. We were made to know God and make him known. We were made to love God and love him is people. And we just can get it so flipped sometimes. And so we can feel, I think, anxious or angry even with how we're designed or with things that aren't working in our favor like we want it to, because we've made our purpose all about us. We've made, you know, our influence or whatever we feel like we're called to do, all about us. And yes, God has given us unique talents and gifts, but they're not just for us. Like, we're not the main character of our story. Like Jesus is the main character. And we're here just to point people to Jesus. And it talks about in Scripture, you know, like, the different. We all have been given different gifts, you know, the. And. And just, like, there's different parts of the body. Like, the hand is useful for one thing. The eye is useful for another thing. The ear is useful for one thing. The organs are useful, like, and the body works together to accomplish the same purpose, but they all have different responsibilities and they all have different, you know, talents per se. And I think it's the same with the body of Christ. Like, we've all been given different gifts and talents, but we do have a shared purpose, which is to know God and make him known. And I think as long as we can keep that, you know, with our eyes on that prize and knowing that truth, then we won't fall into that, like, influencer trap of, like, I've gotta, like, do this really big thing and be super successful, because that's what I think leads to a lot of comparison and anxiety and social media has played a really big role in that. I mean, how is it for you in navigating like how much time you're you're in this world where you're around a lot of, I guess you could say, like successful people, influencers? How do you not fall into comparison of your giftings and how God's wired you with how God's wired other people?
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How?
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That's only from Satan would I allow a competitive nature to be like, well, is her podcast more popular than mine? I'm like, I want your podcast to be More popular than mine. Because you're serving an audience, I'm serving a different audience. There's room forever. And even if we serve the crossover audience, I'm like, if our purpose is true and right, what do we care? It's not about our success.
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Yes.
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Uh, it's about the success to make God known.
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Yes, exactly.
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So in that way, you're. It just becomes easy to cheer other people on. And that feels so good in. In purpose. But I'll tell you a story. I think I did share it on your podcast that when, especially within my acting career, that I've been acting since I was 5 and then took that break from 20 years old to 30 something, and those, those 10 years that I was with my kids drastically changed my purpose in life, because that's when I got very real with God and started spending time with him every single day and learning the Bible, learning his words. And when I went back into entertainment in my early 30s, my whole purpose in the workplace completely changed. And it was like, oh, yeah, great. This isn't about climbing the corporate ladder. It's not about my next job or what TV show am I gonna be on next. Like, yeah, I would like those things, but it's not my purpose. My value doesn't lie in the fact that I'm gonna be on another TV show or I'm gonna add to my resume or I'm gonna win an award. It's like, who can I talk to about Jesus? That became my purpose. And then everything else, all of the. A lot of the competitive nature, even whether I'm achieving or failing goals I set out to, they just became less important. And it was more about God. Where would you have me today? What people am I going to meet today? Who are you going to put in my path? And whether that is picking up my kids from school or standing in a grocery store line or being on the set next to a super famous a list person, who are you putting in my place that I can just share with them about you or I can just be a light in my mannerisms? I can be encouraging to them. And they would just see something in me that felt like true, rooted joy and would ask about it. You know, things like that. That becomes your purpose and life just becomes less stressful.
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Right? It's for the Christian. It's the upside down kingdom. It's so set apart thinking than the way that the world lives and the way that the world thinks when it's all for the world about self and building up your own kingdom and building up your own name and brand and status and caring about those things. For believers, it's exactly what you're saying. It's who can I love today? Who can I serve today? How can I wash people's feet today? How can I show up and bring joy and kindness to someone in need today? How can I do something for someone that can do nothing back in return for me? How can I show up for a friend today? I mean, those are ways to just be so faithful with where God has us. And yeah, you just, you see that even we've talked about this on a previous episode, but just that we all long to hear the words one day, well done, my good and faithful servant. Yeah, you know, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, like faithfulness really matters to God. And so being faithful in the season that God has you in and being present, not overlooking it, not comparing it, not being angry about it, and you still can have desires or hopes or dreams. Those things are beautiful. Give em to God. But still being faithful with where God has you is so important. And you know, I'm a dreamer. Like, I'm someone who, like I have so many ideas and so many things that I wanna do. And I think that, that sometimes it's like, how do you, you know, how do you be faithful? How do you be present when you have these dreams and these things that you want to accomplish and all of those things. But I don't know, I really do think it comes back to what you're saying about a holy and eternal perspective of just, this isn't all for me. Like, we were all made on purpose and for a purpose, but our purpose is not for us. Our purpose is for God.
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But that right there, let me tell you, we speak those words, but I had probably like a whole year I had to sit on those words, like, wait, my life isn't for me. My life isn't about me. Those words were heavy for me. I had to, I was like, like, whoa, whoa, hold up, back up, two steps back. God, how are you making me. But my life isn't about me. It's not for me. That honestly was like a mind trip for me. And that came in the season of new motherhood. It was, it was very challenging for me to intellectually grasp concept. I can say those words now. I believe it, I live it, it's meaningful. But I wrestled with that for at least a year to truly understand it, because I didn't like those words. Because as a person that wants to be in control of things and because of A selfish nature. How could you create me, God? And my life's not about me. That's weird. That's unloving. That's. That, like, are you an egotistical jerk? That's how I thought of it at first. I was, I was. I don't. Wouldn't say I was angry at God, but I thought it was pretty messed up.
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Yeah. You're like, I don't know if I like this design that you put together. God, that's so real. And. And I think that I for sure had moments I would say, for me, even just the. The design of being a wife was. Was a really hard concept for me at first.
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Yeah. I. Wait, I'm created to be a, like a helper. Helper.
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Don't you mean a leader?
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Again, that was another concept where I'm like, huh, I gotta sit on that one too.
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Submission, huh? Yeah, no, that was. That was really. That was a big. A big one for me. And, you know, once I learned what true godly submission looks like and actually is. Once I actually understood why God designed husband and wife, and the husband being the head of the home the way that he did, then I. Then I found great peace and safety and love in that. There was great security in that. But for a long time, it was confusing and frustrating with God. Why did you. Why did you wire it this way? But, you know, you look all the way back to even when Jesus called the disciples, like, our first call to following Jesus is, what? Pick up your cross, deny yourself and follow me?
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Yeah.
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And so literally to be a Christian is to say, I'm dead to myself. Yes. Yeah. Like, I literally died to myself. And, and I. It's so hard in America to think that way. Really hard. And maybe in other places I can only speak in behalf of living in America, but I just see that in America. It just so. I just think even Americanized Christianity, it's like we want to make Jesus into who we want him to be. And we have this view of who he is, and he serves us, our needs, and we're mad at him when he doesn't do what we want him to do. And it is just going back to, you know, what, what we talked about, of. We were made for his purpose and his pleasure. And there's actually again, when you understand why God did what he did and how his design is and that it's actually for our good. There's so much freedom and security and knowing I don't have to build a name for myself and sustain it. Like, I don't have to work hard to find this, you know, it big thing for myself and hope to God that I can hold on to it and that it doesn't crash and burn. There's so much freedom and knowing I'm just being faithful with what God puts right in front of me. And if that's the coffee barista, if that's my daughter, if that's my husband, if that's a podcast, if that's a stage, if that's leading a discipleship group at my church, whatever that looks like, I'm just called to be faithful. And that's what true purpose and influence is. And just like we talked about, just glorifying God with whatever that thing is.
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Yeah, that's good. It's so good. Should we take a listener question?
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Let's do it. Okay.
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This is from Jessica. How do you navigate using your discernment as a new Christian? I'm an overthinker, and I've been struggling with making big decisions because I want to know that it is what the Lord is calling me to do. But the enemy has taken advantage of my anxiety, and he makes me question every decision that I make. Good question, Jessica.
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Good question, Jessica.
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Like, sometimes we don't know. We just have to take steps forward. But I truly believe that God will guide us on the path that we are supposed to be. He'll close the door. He will full stop, halt if it's not where you're supposed to be going. Or sometimes we. We run into something that proves to us that, oh, this isn't right, and you may need to. You may need to back up and reroute and all that kind of stuff. Doesn't mean there aren't consequences from it. But sometimes we just don't know. And that's what faith really is. It's stepping out blindly. It's trusting in what we cannot see. But if you're praying along, you're praying to God asking, and you're just taking the steps forward that you think are right, then you go for it and trust that God will guide you if. If he wants to reroute you. That's my advice.
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No, that's perfect. And just to even echo what you're saying, I love that in scripture, it says that he is a lamp unto our feet and a light into our path. And I think about that in the terms of we want it to be like a spotlight where we can see so far in front of us.
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Yes. But a little lamp, like, it's only
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giving you a little bit of light for like those next couple steps.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes we don't have the full clarity and it is just the steps of faith and just being faithful. And I think that's just such a big part of the Christian journey and walk. And you just take things with a heart of like, God, this is for you and for your glory. And I hope that I'm, you know, making the right decision in this and if I'm not, please correct me and reveal it to me. I mean, that's really is a lot of my.
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Yeah, that's kind of all you can do sometimes. Over the years I've prayed about, about things and you just have that gut feeling. And I know, like, this is the decision I'm supposed to make, but I would say that 90% of the time I'm kind of winging it. I'm praying. I'm like, I'm not hearing a certain answer one way or another. So I'm like, okay, there was no
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sign in the sky.
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I'm just gonna take a step in this direction and God guide me back onto the right path if it's not right.
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Amen.
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That's it.
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I love it.
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Okay, well, thanks for that. We're going to be back for one last week. Life is really like a roller coaster and Maddie and I hope this season is bringing you clarity and encouragement. There's the free Dare to be true guide@candice.com, which goes with Maddie's book. You can submit questions@candice.com find links to all our past guides and at candice.com forward/together. You can join the together community where there's a private private podcast, chat and more. Until next time, be grateful all day, every day. Candy Rock Entertainment all rights reserved.
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