
Deacon Mark Campbell welcomes Deacon Randy Kiel, president of Kardia Counseling, to discuss stress management, how to recognize when stress becomes distress or duress, and practical spiritual tools for supporting people in crisis. He's joined by Deacon Mark Burdt to explore the Deacon Advisory Board's role in continuing education, diaconate formation, and the evolving ministry of permanent deacons across the Diocese of Des Moines. This episode addresses mental health, spiritual counseling, and how Catholics can minister to others during difficult times.
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