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All right, guys. Welcome to a new week of the Daily Blade. One of the greatest things about this weird job that I have, being a podcaster and a speaker and doing all this stuff, is I get the opportunity to meet some amazing, awesome people. But one of the best people that I've ever had the privilege of meeting was John Eldridge. And so John Eldridge is a fantastic author. He is the author of the seminal work in men's ministry, and that is Wild at Heart. It's basically the only men's ministry book that has sold more than like, 14 copies. And I've also had the opportunity to have John Eldridge as a personal mentor of mine. So if you're not familiar with John Eldridge or Wild at Heart, I highly suggest you go get that book and read it. But kind of the main nexus of that book is this quote from it here. Deep in his heart, every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live, and a beauty to rescue. And so Wild at Heart as a book, really changed how I view manhood and manliness, you know, certainly in a Christian context, but there's actually a lesser known book by John Eldridge that completely shifted how I view Jesus Christ our savior. And so that's his 2011 book, Beautiful Outlaw. Subtitle here. Experiencing the playful, disruptive, extravagant personality of Jesus. Now, I remember getting this book. I just love the name Beautiful Outlaw. But then whenever I read the subtitle, I remember seeing personality and being like, okay, I'm kind of intrigued by that because up to that point, if I'm being honest, I don't know that I had ever really considered the personality of Jesus, that. That Jesus was a man that actually had one of those, right? Because when other people would read the Gospels or when I would read the Gospels myself, I would just kind of read it like Jesus was, you know, this robot or the zombie, like, and then Jesus went to this place and then he did some things and people got mad, and then Jesus left and did things like. That's just kind of how I read it. But then I read Beautiful Outlaw, and each chapter of this book delves into a different part of the personality of Jesus the man. Now, as you know, with many John Eldridge books, he does Take some poetic license in different places. But guys, he doesn't do so in order to contradict or add to or to change the text in any way. But he's trying to bring it to life. He's trying to provide some light for it. So today we're going to start by looking at chapter five of Beautiful Outlaw. And it's called the Most Human Face of All. So I'll read from it here. For something is crept into our assumptions about Jesus that makes it almost impossible to relate to him, not to mention love him. I say crept because it has not been a conscious decision. Few of the things that shape our actual convictions are. I think much of the creep has happened ironically as a result of our attempts to love and revere Christ. But crept in, this notion has, and it has done great damage to our perceptions of him and our experience of Him. It's the notion that Jesus was really, quote unquote, pretending when he presented himself as a man. And so the point here is that, okay, yeah, yeah, you know, God, you know, was, you know, Jesus was God in AA and all that kind of stuff, but, you know, he was just kind of faking it. He wasn't actually hungry. He wasn't actually distressed at all these points. So let's go back to Beautiful Outlaw here to hear him make his point. After all, we're talking about Jesus here. The guy walked on water, raised Lazarus from the dead. He never broke a sweat, right? But then what do you make of the terrible sweat in Gethsemane? They went to a place called Gethsemane, and Jesus said to his disciples, sit here while I pray. He took Peter, James and John along with him. And he began to be deeply distressed and troubled. My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. He said to them, stay here and keep watch. Going a little further. He fell to the ground and prayed that if it was possible, for the hour might pass from him. Abba Father, he said, everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly. And his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground. That's Mark 14:32 through 36 in Luke 22:44. Deeply distressed, overwhelmed with sorrow, anguished. This doesn't sound like somebody cheating to me. He begs his Father with tears that this awful cup might be taken away from him. Please let there be another way. He doesn't want to do it. Sweat like blood pouring from his tormented brow, he pleads with his Father. And then he pleads a second time. And Then a third. Does this sound like Einstein adding 2 and 2? Gethsemane was the most terrible farce. If Jesus was faking it, he was human, really. And then Eldridge goes into Talking about the 40 days and 40 nights of fasting in the desert and the temptations that he experienced. And then it kind of hit me at this point when I was reading the book, Jesus was fully man. Like he. He was actually a man. This. This might make some of you think I'm kind of dense, but I was like, oh my gosh, like he's actually a man. And then Eldridge hits us with these three scriptures in the same chapter, John 1:14. And the word became flesh and dwelt among us. Hebrews 2:14. Since the children of flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity, so that his death might break the power of him who holds the power of death. Philippians 2, 7 and 8. But he emptied himself, taking the form of a bond, servant and being made in the likeness of men, being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Because, guys, on this earth, Jesus was God and abode for sure. But the bod was a human bod, right? He was fully God while simultaneously being fully man. And what do all men have? They all have a personality. And so that was the. The big kind of aha moment for me when I was reading through this book. It's like, oh my gosh, I've been. I've been reading about Jesus so wrong. And then when you're reading Jesus wrong, you don't get the fullness of who he was. Because yes, he was God, but yes, he was man, which allows us to relate to him even better. So. So, guys, come back here tomorrow where we will explore that further and answer the question, is Jesus really playful?
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Summary of Podcast Episode #79 - Kyle Thompson: The Most Human Face of All
Podcast Information:
In Episode #79 of The Daily Blade, host Kyle Thompson delves into the profound insights from John Eldridge's book, Beautiful Outlaw: Experiencing the Playful, Disruptive, Extravagant Personality of Jesus. Co-host Joby Martin opens the episode with a brief welcome, setting the stage for an engaging discussion aimed at deepening listeners' understanding of Jesus' humanity.
Kyle begins by sharing his admiration for John Eldridge, highlighting Wild at Heart as a seminal work in men's ministry. He remarks:
“Deep in his heart, every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live, and a beauty to rescue” (01:15).
Kyle emphasizes how Wild at Heart reshaped his perspective on manhood within a Christian context, underscoring Eldridge's influence not just as an author but also as a personal mentor.
Transitioning to Eldridge's lesser-known work, Kyle introduces Beautiful Outlaw. He shares his initial intrigue sparked by the book's subtitle:
“Experiencing the playful, disruptive, extravagant personality of Jesus” (02:30).
Kyle confesses that prior to reading, he perceived Jesus as a somewhat robotic figure, conducting miracles without displaying the full spectrum of human emotions. This changed dramatically as he engaged with Eldridge's portrayal of Jesus' personality.
Focusing on chapter five, "The Most Human Face of All," Kyle reads a poignant excerpt that challenges common misconceptions about Jesus:
“For something has crept into our assumptions about Jesus that makes it almost impossible to relate to him, not to mention love him” (03:45).
He discusses how societal and devotional attempts to idealize Jesus inadvertently strip away his relatable humanity. Kyle highlights the argument that Jesus wasn't "pretending" to experience hunger, distress, or anguish but truly embodied these human emotions.
Kyle examines Jesus' agony in Gethsemane, referencing Mark 14:32-36 and Luke 22:44. He passionately analyzes the scene where Jesus:
“...fell to the ground and prayed that if it was possible, for the hour might pass from him” (04:10).
Kyle argues that this level of emotional turmoil and physical suffering demonstrates Jesus' genuine humanity, countering the notion that he was merely acting. He asserts that interpreting Jesus as fully human enhances our ability to relate to and love him more deeply.
To support his discussion, Kyle references three key scriptures:
John 1:14:
“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (04:45).
Hebrews 2:14:
“Since the children of flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity, so that his death might break the power of him who holds the power of death” (05:00).
Philippians 2:7-8:
“...he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross” (05:15).
Kyle explains that these scriptures collectively affirm Jesus' dual nature as fully God and fully man. This duality allows believers to connect with Jesus on a personal and emotional level, recognizing him as both divine and profoundly human.
Reflecting on his reading, Kyle shares a transformative realization:
“Jesus was fully man. Like he... he was actually a man” (05:30).
This epiphany led him to reassess his understanding of Jesus, moving from a distant, almost mechanical figure to one with whom he can authentically relate. Kyle emphasizes that appreciating Jesus' humanity fosters a more meaningful and impactful faith journey.
Kyle wraps up the episode by inviting listeners to join him in the next installment, where he plans to delve deeper into Jesus' playful nature:
“Come back here tomorrow where we will explore that further and answer the question, is Jesus really playful?” (05:50).
Kyle Thompson (01:15):
“Deep in his heart, every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live, and a beauty to rescue.”
Kyle Thompson (02:30):
“Experiencing the playful, disruptive, extravagant personality of Jesus.”
Kyle Thompson (03:45):
“For something has crept into our assumptions about Jesus that makes it almost impossible to relate to him, not to mention love him.”
Kyle Thompson (04:10):
“...fell to the ground and prayed that if it was possible, for the hour might pass from him.”
Kyle Thompson (04:45):
“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.”
Kyle Thompson (05:00):
“Since the children of flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity, so that his death might break the power of him who holds the power of death.”
Kyle Thompson (05:15):
“...he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.”
Kyle Thompson (05:30):
“Jesus was fully man. Like he... he was actually a man.”
Kyle Thompson (05:50):
“Come back here tomorrow where we will explore that further and answer the question, is Jesus really playful?”
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