674 - Jim Caviezel with James Adomian - live

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds – Episode 674: Jim Caviezel with James Adomian – Live

Release Date: March 11, 2025

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Overview:

In Episode 674 of The Dollop, titled "Jim Caviezel with James Adomian – Live," hosts Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds delve into the life and career of actor Jim Caviezel. Joined by guest James Adomian, the episode navigates through Caviezel's early life, his significant roles in Hollywood, his staunch Catholic faith, and a series of humorous and exaggerated anecdotes that paint a satirical picture of his on-set behaviors and personal beliefs.

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1. Introduction and Tour Announcement [00:00 – 01:33]

The episode kicks off with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds enthusiastically announcing their March 2025 tour, highlighting their favorite cities:

• Dave Anthony [00:00]: “We're going on tour. And this is...”
• Gareth Reynolds [00:02]: “It's been a while.”
• Dave Anthony [00:25]: “Yeah, it's our number one. The best city I've ever been to.”

They list tour dates across cities like Tempe, Albuquerque, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Dallas, Houston, and Austin, emphasizing each city's significance with playful banter and mock enthusiasm. This segment sets a lively tone for the episode, showcasing the hosts' chemistry and comedic rapport.

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2. Introducing Jim Caviezel [01:33 – 02:35]

Post-tour announcements, Dave introduces the episode's focus:

• Dave Anthony [01:33]: “This is an American history podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to my filth.”
• Gareth Reynolds [01:33]: “Really? I thought you were going to go sentimental. Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about and many more.”

The guest, James Adomian, is welcomed:

• Gareth Reynolds [01:48]: “Oh, James, welcome back.”
• James Adomian [01:48]: “Thank you. Thanks for having me.”

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3. Early Life of Jim Caviezel [02:08 – 04:12]

The discussion shifts to Caviezel's origins:

• Dave Anthony [02:08]: “Jim Caviezel was born in Mount Vernon, Washington.”
• James Caviezel [03:07]: “Is he the reincarnation of Robert Kennedy?”
• Gareth Reynolds [03:15]: “It's actually very likely.”

Caviezel's family background is humorously dissected:

• Dave Anthony [03:29]: “She got into acting and then she met her future husband, James at a Cast party.”
• Gareth Reynolds [04:07]: “If it's more than five, they're Mormon.”

Jim's parents are portrayed as a blend of chiropractic professionalism and homemaking, raising five Catholic children with a strong emphasis on faith:

• James Caviezel [04:07]: “We're real strong in our faith, the Catholic faith.”

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4. Jim's Calling and Early Career [06:09 – 10:36]

At 14, Caviezel seeks purpose through a heartfelt prayer:

• Dave Anthony [06:19]: “At 14, Jim said he called out to God, 'Can you please help me find my purpose?' Classic 14-year-old shit.”

James humorously details his religious fervor impacting his career choices:

• James Caviezel [10:36]: “God was like, take fountain, it's faster.”
• Gareth Reynolds [10:42]: “Yes. Yeah, it’s crazy, but it’s not like it’s so actor crazy.”

Jim's spiritual journey leads him to acting, where he believes his roles are divinely inspired:

• James Caviezel [07:08]: “God is your DNA.”

Quotes like:

• Gareth Reynolds [07:02]: “I don’t know. I don’t think I that right now.”
• Jim Caviezel [10:53]: “You need three pink slips from SAG Aftra, and you're eligible.”

highlight the comedic interplay between the hosts and Caviezel's character.

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5. Major Roles and On-Set Experiences [10:37 – 25:00]

Caviezel's significant roles are explored, with an emphasis on his devout Catholicism shaping his acting choices:

• Gareth Reynolds [11:04]: “Don't worry, SoMeday Aftra and SAG will join together.”
• James Caviezel [16:01]: “That was a good movie.”

"The Count of Monte Cristo":

• Dave Anthony [16:16]: “He has two eyes. What are you going to do?”
• James Caviezel [16:21]: “He had to drop out because he had a scheduling conflict.”

"The Thin Red Line":

• James Caviezel [15:08]: “I have kind of a charity thing. I was just trying to get 20 bucks from him.”

"The Passion of the Christ":

• Dave Anthony [21:12]: “Just total bullshit. Because you can't take God out of my Count of Monte Cristo. It's fucking.”
• James Caviezel [21:41]: “Is there anything that's comfortable for you?”

Caviezel's refusal to engage in explicit scenes due to his beliefs leads to creative, humorous compromises:

• James Caviezel [22:27]: “I just said, look, put a top on her. I'm going to keep my shorts on.”
• Gareth Reynolds [23:16]: “Oh, my God. Well, first of all, what the...”

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6. Relationship with Mel Gibson [25:00 – 40:00]

The dynamic between Caviezel and director Mel Gibson is a focal point, illustrating Caviezel's extreme religious adherence and its comedic repercussions on set:

• Dave Anthony [34:00]: “So during filming, Jim said he and Mel went to Mass almost every single day together.”
• James Caviezel [37:00]: “Both Caviezel and Michelini got struck.”

Caviezel's experiences are exaggerated for comedic effect:

• Gareth Reynolds [37:08]: “Oh my God. You're freaking me out, man.”
• James Caviezel [38:19]: “I climbed the mountain. Clouds had formed. Five seconds before the strike.”

The hosts weave fantastical elements, such as lightning strikes being interpreted as divine interventions:

• Dave Anthony [39:34]: “And Mel just keeps saying it. And at one point, Jim said, 'Mel, my initials are J.C. and I'm 33 years old.' And Mel replied, 'You're freaking me out,' and hung up the phone.”

Quotes like:

• James Caviezel [40:00]: “He's not doing anything to save anybody. He's just rich, giving...”

underscore the satirical portrayal of Caviezel's character as overly zealous and disconnected from reality.

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7. Person of Interest and Further Controversies [40:00 – 60:00]

Transitioning to Caviezel's role in "Person of Interest," the discussion continues to blend real-life elements with fictional conspiracies:

• Dave Anthony [53:19]: “And then in 2011, he was cast by Jonathan Nolan and J.J. Abrams to star in Person of Interest on CBS.”
• Gareth Reynolds [57:23]: “We should.”
• James Caviezel [61:22]: “This episode airs Sunday, Jim. This episode airs this Sunday, Jim.”

The conversation becomes increasingly absurd, introducing mock conspiracies and fictional events attributed to Caviezel's character:

• Gareth Reynolds [55:37]: “They called it the Cavortex Christ Hole.”
• James Caviezel [60:37]: “Balaam. Who was on it.”

Satirical elements mock conspiracy theories and the blending of Caviezel's religious persona with his acting roles, creating a humorous facade of over-the-top behavior.

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8. Satirical Conspiracies and Mock Accusations [60:00 – 90:00+]

The dialogue shifts into a mock-conspiratorial tone, parodying extreme and unfounded claims about Caviezel:

• James Caviezel [87:45]: “The main conspiracy theory of Q is that deep state Satan worshiping pedophilic liberals are behind an international child sex trafficking ring.”
• Dave Anthony [101:06]: “The main conspiracy theory of Q is...”

The hosts and Adomian engage in exaggerated, nonsensical dialogues attributing bizarre actions and beliefs to Caviezel, such as:

• Gareth Reynolds [82:13]: “We need Jim on set.”
• James Caviezel [84:14]: “I have, I have, I have.”

This segment leverages hyperbole and absurdist humor to satirize conspiracy theories, blending them with fictionalized portrayals of Caviezel's character.

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9. Final Buildup and Conclusion [90:00 – End]

As the episode progresses, the hosts continue to escalate the fictional conspiracies, culminating in a chaotic and humorous portrayal of Caviezel:

• Dave Anthony [112:16]: “The Baltimore Catholic Review said it was wildly Islamophobic.”
• James Caviezel [119:43]: “I just want to make sure everybody understands that I am a man of God...”

The conclusion ties back to the tour announcement, thanking listeners and promoting animated content:

• Gareth Reynolds [124:10]: “And we're gonna do it for 10 more months, max, maximum.”

Final humorous exchanges emphasize the satirical and exaggerated nature of the episode's portrayal of Caviezel, leaving listeners entertained through a blend of real-life references and fictional conspiracies.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jim Caviezel [04:12]: “We're real strong in our faith, the Catholic faith.”
• Jim Caviezel [10:36]: “God was like, 'take fountain, it's faster.'”
• James Caviezel [16:01]: “That was a good movie.”
• Jim Caviezel [22:27]: “I just said, look, put a top on her. I'm going to keep my shorts on.”
• James Caviezel [26:34]: “I'm not getting naked unless it's the Holocaust.”
• James Caviezel [37:00]: “I climbed the mountain. Clouds had formed.”
• James Caviezel [43:54]: “You're never going to see my butt on film unless I'm in the Holocaust walking around.”
• James Caviezel [45:57]: “You have to do it through bubble wrap.”
• James Caviezel [61:22]: “The Bible itself is a mathematical code.”
• James Caviezel [87:45]: “The main conspiracy theory of Q is...”

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Conclusion:

Episode 674 of The Dollop masterfully blends factual elements of Jim Caviezel's life and career with a satirical and exaggerated narrative that parodies conspiracy theories and over-the-top behaviors. Through a mix of real-life references, humorous banter, and fictional conspiratorial claims, Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds create an engaging and entertaining episode that both honors and lampoons Caviezel's persona in Hollywood. The inclusion of James Adomian adds an additional layer of comedic depth, allowing for dynamic interactions that enhance the episode's overall humor and satirical edge.

Listeners unfamiliar with the episode will find a rich tapestry of comedic storytelling, highlighting the hosts' ability to intertwine history, pop culture, and satire into a cohesive and entertaining narrative. The use of notable quotes with timestamps provides authenticity to the comedic portrayal, ensuring that key moments resonate well beyond the episode's runtime.

Transcript

[Dave Anthony]

We're going on tour. And this is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's been a while.

[Dave Anthony]

March 2025 is when our tour is happening. First of all, we're going to Tempe, Arizona, maybe our favorite city of all time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's the best.

[Dave Anthony]

That is on March 16th. And then we go to Albuquerque, New Mexico, maybe our favorite city ever, we've ever gone to. That's on March 17th. And then we go to Oklahoma City.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Which is our fav. We often say that it's our number one.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, it's our number one. The best city I've ever been to. That's on March 18th. On March 19th, we're going to be in Tulsa, Oklahoma, our favorite city, without question. And then we head to Dallas, Texas, on March 20th.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Our favorite city.

[Dave Anthony]

There's never been a better city than better.

[Gareth Reynolds]

If you don't like it, you're a Dallas hole.

[Dave Anthony]

Thank you. And then we go to Houston, Texas, on March 21. City, which is by far the best city. And then we end our tour in Austin, Texas, on March 22 at the Cap City Comedy Club. It's the best city in the entire world.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Number one city in the world.

[Dave Anthony]

You can get [e-mail] tour. You're listening to the Dollop. This is an American history podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to my filth.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Really? I thought you were going to go sentimental. Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about and many more. Neither does this week's guest. Oh, James, welcome back.

[James Caviezel]

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Here we go. Last one.

[Dave Anthony]

I've seen some guesses. Yeah, Everybody's been wrong. September 26th, 1968.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.

[Dave Anthony]

About the Vietnam War.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. The Vietnam War was born.

[Dave Anthony]

James Patrick Caviezel Jr. Was born in Mount Vernon, Washington. Just a shadow way.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Holy.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

September 1968.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

December 1968. That's when Jesus Christ was born.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. But with more come this time.

[Dave Anthony]

More come.

[James Caviezel]

Is he the reincarnation of Robert Kennedy?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, wow. It's very possible.

[Dave Anthony]

It is.

[James Caviezel]

It's technically possible.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's actually very likely.

[Dave Anthony]

James. Mother Margaret was a beauty pageant winner in Illinois, as she says many times, although not on the website.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What website? Pageants of Illinois.

[Dave Anthony]

They list all of the winners of the website. She said of the. Of the pages.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She said she won.

[Dave Anthony]

She's not on there.

[James Caviezel]

23 and caviezel.com.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

She got into acting and then she met her future husband, James at a Cast party. He played basketball at UCLA before going to Iowa to enter chiropractic school.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Nice.

[Dave Anthony]

And they married. They moved to Washington. Mount Vernon, Washington. He becomes a. He's a chiropractor. She's a. She's a home mom. They have five kids, all raised Catholic.

[James Caviezel]

If it's more than five, they're Mormon. If it's five, that's straight down the line. Catholic.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. James quote, we're real. This is dad. We're real strong in our faith, the Catholic faith. All the kids grew up that way. To know it's God first, family second and business third, spine last.

[James Caviezel]

I like to think of my rankings as a series of spinal vertebrae at the top. At the base of the C1. God.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's C1. That's God. C4, that's around family time. That's where family.

[James Caviezel]

All the way down to the base of your spine. Where the coccyx is. Yeah, that's the. That's the. That's the. Your tires on your car. How. The good condition of your tires.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Tailbone is company picnics.

[Dave Anthony]

Your anus is Satan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Anus is where the devil goes. Trust me.

[James Caviezel]

You know, I always know that I'm talking to a smart person. When you get a guy who's like, you know, the way I see it is this number one, it's got. When there's a. They have a ranking in there, number one, it's God. Number two is country. It's God country. And then, oddly enough, it's my extended family.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can't you just have a life?

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, well, sure. Life is number five, having a life.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean.

[Dave Anthony]

So like I said, his mom was an actor. They called in the house. They called acting the Blarney. They're fun.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Not following.

[James Caviezel]

The mom was an actor?

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And the blarney.

[Dave Anthony]

She did like, you know, local stage kind of stuff.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Did you look it up on the website?

[Dave Anthony]

The blarney?

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, the thing. Her resume.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh. Yeah, she. She just.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's a propensity for fitness.

[Dave Anthony]

Local. Yeah, she just did like local theater.

[James Caviezel]

Burlesque.

[Dave Anthony]

Burlesque.

[James Caviezel]

Whipping stuff.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[Dave Anthony]

Private bachelor parties.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right, right. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim was said to be a very intense kid. He was into sports and religion.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sure. In that order.

[Dave Anthony]

At 14, Jim said he called out to God, quote, can you please help me? Help me find my purpose. Classic 14 year old shit. Just what 14 year old kids do.

[Gareth Reynolds]

God, what am I doing?

[Dave Anthony]

God?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why?

[James Caviezel]

Why must I carry out your command? You gave to me to gouge out my own eyes, Lord.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, God said it's acting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, God said, oh, wow.

[Dave Anthony]

God said, you're gonna be an actor. But he wouldn't try acting for years. So it's weird that he asked God when he's 14, got an answer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't know. I don't think I that right now.

[Dave Anthony]

I'm gonna try.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey, what's the different purpose? Can I get a new purpose?

[Dave Anthony]

Say football. Say football. Say football.

[James Caviezel]

God's giving me the wrong answers.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim goes to Mount Vernon High School for two years and then a Catholic school and then another Catholic school. So we went to four high schools.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, that's cool.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, I couldn't stick around at the Catholic schools. He played basketball, so he played basketball. He played basketball all the way through first year of college. Then he got injured. So that that dream's over.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What's my purpose? Oh, look who comes crawling back. I fuck. I don't act, man.

[Dave Anthony]

He goes to the University of Washington and while he's there he calls his dad and he asked for $300 because he is going to take modeling pictures. So he did clothing ads. He got an acting agent. So at another interview I found Jim said at 19 God told him to be an actor.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But he told him that at 14.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, he said that? Yeah. In another interview he said that. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get a role on Becker. Try. It's pretty good.

[James Caviezel]

Quote, God was like, take fountain, it's faster.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Go down fountain. I have an audition downtown. You won't find parking.

[Dave Anthony]

Get a Thomas Guide.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get a Thomas. Oh my God.

[James Caviezel]

Remember a four.

[Dave Anthony]

I remember Dugo Road when I did.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Kids birthday parties and my boss was like, get a Thomas Guide. And I was like, I can't do this job. I was like, this won't happen.

[James Caviezel]

I remember my dad was very particular about. He was like, the new Thomas guides are not. You can't. Don't ever get me a new one. It has to be the previous sized. It's smaller because you have to fit in your lap while you're driving.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh my God.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, yeah. There's a system to it.

[Dave Anthony]

There was a system. People that know what we're talking about. We used to have before phones, we had a little. It was a book that had maps.

[James Caviezel]

It was a big floppy book in your car.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Tell them about maps, old man. You kids don't know what maps are, do you? Your phones, huh? Well, what are you gonna do with a terrorist? Take out your WI Fi.

[James Caviezel]

That's the first thing they go for.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, that's right. You won't be able to go on your Tinders or your TikToks, your MapQuest apps will fail you.

[Dave Anthony]

You know there's a guy with a Thomas guy just waiting for everything to fall.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh yeah. I told you.

[James Caviezel]

He's like, I have a hand cranked rail car Thomas guy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All these roads have changed my plan.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, what is this? 105 Freeway, 105 East.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Where the is the airport. Son of a. My plan. So.

[Dave Anthony]

So God tells Jim at 19 to be an actor. Quote, I felt this peace I have never felt before. I heard God say, I'd like you to be an actor. I did not know where to go. I was going to take him. It was going to take him to teach me and bring me to the right teachers, the right films to do.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That is crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, it's crazy, but it's not like it's so actor crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

To be like God told. Like if there is a God, telling someone to be an actor is the worst advice ever.

[James Caviezel]

Ever.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get Taft Hartley as soon as possible.

[James Caviezel]

You need three pink slips from SAG aftra, and you're eligible.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're now a must. Join Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

Don't worry, SoMeday Aftra and SAG will join together.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, you don't have to join SAG. Just wait a couple of years and you'll automatically be put into it.

[Dave Anthony]

So he does plays in Seattle. And then, as God intended, he landed a small role in the queer film My Own Private Idaho.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, wow. I did not know that. Hey, God, that's kind of contradictory advice you've given me. Huh?

[James Caviezel]

Go with me. Go with me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Are you sure? Because.

[James Caviezel]

Go with me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There's a lot of gay stuff in this movie. God.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim, I want you to dance in a bar called the Jackhammer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is just a man through a tube. Who are you? Hey, Jim, it's me, your landlord. Listen, so sorry.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim got the role by convincing the casting director he was a recent Italian immigrant.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, wow.

[Dave Anthony]

His role in the movie was airline clerk.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And where are you going? What is your destination? Idaho. I never even heard of it. Whoa. Is it private?

[Dave Anthony]

So that got him into sag. He moves to la, he said on his first day in the city, he walked 25 miles, then took a cab to his hotel and ate a steak.

[James Caviezel]

He got lost.

[Dave Anthony]

He did not know where the fuck he was.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He's got the Thomas guy down.

[James Caviezel]

He sounds like the halfway point from LAX to downtown was Hermosa Beach, 25.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Miles, and then got a cab. Then I can't find a taxi in this town.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim studied acting at usc. He appeared in the wonder years as a basketball player. In 1993, his sister set him up on a blind date with Carrie Browett, who was an English teacher and ex college basketball player.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, sports. For sure. Sports, sports.

[Dave Anthony]

She was also a devout Catholic, and after three years, they got married.

[James Caviezel]

So so far, nothing interesting has happened in his life.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's actually very true.

[Dave Anthony]

No, it hasn't really.

[Gareth Reynolds]

A very good point.

[Dave Anthony]

It's all pretty normal.

[James Caviezel]

I mean, I rebelled. I rebelled and I decided to play defense.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I.

[Dave Anthony]

You know, at this point, it was like my story would almost be over. Like, when I was 18, I was like, well, I'm going to stop doing drugs now. So in 1994, Jim lands a role in Wyatt Earp. So that was a big role for him.

[James Caviezel]

That was a good movie.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was a good movie.

[Dave Anthony]

He was.

[James Caviezel]

Not because of him.

[Dave Anthony]

No, not because him. He's Costner's brother in that. And then four years later, he got his big break in the Thin Red Line, which he was like, in the first 20 minutes. Sounds like he was really fun on set. So they're on the set, and Jim points at a large rock. Quote, this is Jim telling the story. Quote, I said, look at this. See this rock here? And Sean said, yeah. And I said, I have kind of a charity thing. I was just trying to get 20 bucks from him. And this thing weighs about 5 million tons, right? But it's just hanging there, and it looks like it's gonna fall. And I said to Sean, I'm against people pushing those rocks.

[James Caviezel]

I tell you. I was. I was cutting it up on set. I was cutting it up on set. I was. I was always just, you know, mixing it up with the guys. You know, as a man of faith in Hollywood, you got to mix it up with the guys. You got to let them know that you're not just a box of crayons. Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, find better bits on set. It's pretty awkward on. What are you going for? This man's won an Oscar.

[James Caviezel]

I says. I says. I says to Sean, I says to Sean, my buddy Sean Penn. I call him Sean. I said to Sean, I said, you see that rock there?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Keep going.

[James Caviezel]

That's the same. The same word. Is the word for Peter in Latin, because Peter is the rock of the church.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, Jesus Christ. Go to your trailer, write something down, rehearse it, and pretend it's off the cuff. What are you doing right now?

[James Caviezel]

It's an igneous rock.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't say anything else about the rock, Jim. Jesus Christ. Not you.

[James Caviezel]

It's Volcanic. It's volcanic and it's. It's from no more than 5,000 years ago.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim was cast as Cyclops and X Men, but he had to drop out.

[James Caviezel]

He had two eyes.

[Dave Anthony]

He had two eyes. What are you going to do? God cursed him on that one.

[James Caviezel]

It's a pagan mythology.

[Dave Anthony]

He had. He had to drop out because he had a scheduling conflict with the movie frequency which he starred in. And Jim's character talks to his dead dad through an old ham radio. And there's a serial killer that has to be stopped.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Imagine if we had that technology, Dave.

[Dave Anthony]

So in 2001, Jim was in Angel Eyes with Jennifer Lopez and they had.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Great movie.

[Dave Anthony]

A sex scene.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Great movie. Great sex scene.

[Dave Anthony]

Isn't it good?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sex scene's unbelievable.

[James Caviezel]

Now, when I see insertion, when I do sex scenes, you know, I prepare because it's right on the edge of what my faith will. And I. I go straight to the book of the Song of Solomon. I read this, I read this. I read the Old Testament Song of Solomon. I read the book of Ecclesiastes and some of the excesses that God ultimately forgave with the wisest man. And I go back to that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just her. Jim. Jesus Christ, you're getting paid.

[Dave Anthony]

Jesus, you're edging with your fucking mouth.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Go.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim only agreed to do the movie after being promised they would keep their private parts covered during sex scenes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. Well, first of all, what the. Yeah, no, is that. That's like the director's like, yeah, no, dude, it's not a porn. I won't fully her, sir. Yeah, that's where nobody's.

[James Caviezel]

Excuse me, I'm not gonna.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jennifer Lopez me and I met. She was like, what did he just say? I won't do it.

[Dave Anthony]

Not Jenny from around the block or whatever.

[James Caviezel]

I'll need some kind of pillow that's in between us. Like a pillow that's just like the medium kind of pillow that you get in a hotel room, like an airplane.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like the pillow the airline will give you when you want to kip on an international one.

[James Caviezel]

I turned to Jennifer and I said, as an actor, actor to actor. I went to her and I said, what's going to be good for you as far as pillows? I like, what do you. A standard, like a long size. A long pillow, like from a king sized bed or something small, smaller, like a little couch, kind of divan pillow, pillow or something.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What a hemorrhoid pillow? That's kind of a crazy answer. Jennifer, to be honest with you.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim, quote I just said, look, put a top on her. I'm going to keep my shorts on. She's going to keep hers on. Get the camera and shoot around it. And that's out of devotion, love and respect to my wife.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh. It's the worst sex scene ever. It's the worst sexy ever.

[James Caviezel]

Wait, are we saying that's the moment where I came? Right there?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Was it?

[James Caviezel]

I think you usually can indicate that there's a transfer of ejaculate. Blessed by the Lord.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep.

[James Caviezel]

When you blink and stare, you blink and you stare.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

I mean that, like, they couldn't shoot a sex scene because of what he wanted to do.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're like, just kissing, like, I guess.

[Dave Anthony]

Just sit on each other.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, my seed.

[James Caviezel]

Well, you see, that's the kind of thing that's acceptable to do with someone that you're not married.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

You sit, you look.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

You hold each other and you cry.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think he did come. I think. I don't think you're wrong. In that moment, it felt like he did go like, you know, like in the movie, and she was like, oh, good. And then he started kissing a little bit.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

Get hugged like a dirty pig neck.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Little more necking, Jim. That's nice. Oh, man.

[Dave Anthony]

Two years later, he's the lead in the Count of Monte Cristo.

[James Caviezel]

Easier. No sex scenes to worry about.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim said Disney tried to remove God from the script and the execs mocked him when he fought to keep God in the script, saying, quote, so you're one of those. Jim claims they eventually gave in and kept God in the script.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Just total bullshit. Because you can't take God out of my Count of Monte Cristo. It's fucking. He's a fucking liar. For a sex scene. Sex scene. They were required to be topless in.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The Count of Monte Cristo.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep. So Jim asked the actress to put something between her breast and his chest.

[Gareth Reynolds]

My penis.

[James Caviezel]

Is there anything that's comfortable for you? I mean, as an actor? Respectfully. Because I'm going to have a chest and I really. It's just the chest to chest thing to me is something that's very.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What could flatten you with ease? What could make you. Would you mind wearing a little cardboard. Let's both wear barrels.

[James Caviezel]

A couple of kitchen instruments.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You know what I mean? Large wooden spoons, maybe a couple cutting boards.

[Dave Anthony]

What if there's a screaming priest between us?

[Gareth Reynolds]

That'd be great.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah. A large. A large loaf of bread.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We just covered each other in slices. That could Be a Monte Cristo. Sorry.

[James Caviezel]

A little syrup. A little ham.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, a little ham. Oh, wait now, wait a minute. It's getting dangerous now.

[Dave Anthony]

So she made. The actress made pasties out of her flesh colored underwear to put over her nips.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's so. First of all, that's first. Very embarrassing, first of all. Second of all, there wasn't a wardrobe department that was like, we can handle this. She's like, all right, well, I'll be in my trailer cutting out nipple covers for my.

[James Caviezel]

From my panties.

[Gareth Reynolds]

From my panties.

[Dave Anthony]

Normal.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But don't wear those panties.

[Dave Anthony]

While filming, Jim said he became sad and overwhelmed. So Carrie had him meet with a visionary. And they prayed. And Jim said as they prayed, the Virgin Mary came into the room.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, it's like a psychic, but they're like, don't worry, it's okay.

[Dave Anthony]

It's like a spiritual guide.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, we're the loophole.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, we're the loophole. Jim, quote, I don't want to make this sound disgraceful to God, but it's like an orgasm that the Holy Spirit gives you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. Wait.

[Dave Anthony]

Virgin Mary coming into the room is like having a. Like blowing your wad for Christ. I don't know exactly what he's saying.

[James Caviezel]

I think it was disgraceful for the Holy Spirit. I think the Holy Spirit was like, remove myself from you, child.

[Dave Anthony]

So while doing press for the movie, a PR person told the Independent uk, quote, don't ask him about his Catholicism. He did a radio interview yesterday, and once he started talking about religion, well, they could only use this much.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He probably was trying to talk to his dead dad through it. He was like, dad, Papa. Welcome to BBC Radio. We've got Jim Caviezel. He believes he's communicating through his father. Dad, dad, there's been a murder.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, that's the serial killer. So. And why do you think I built a hammer?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I jacked off to a spirit?

[Dave Anthony]

So did I listen, though.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Holy shit.

[Dave Anthony]

All right, so he also makes the movie High Crimes. There's a scripted sex scene, and Jib said no.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

He said he would walk off the movie if he had to do the sex scene.

[James Caviezel]

So this was him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He.

[James Caviezel]

This was him walking back?

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[James Caviezel]

The hot and heavy stuff we just saw.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, well, you saw what happened when he. I mean, when he does a sex. Who.

[James Caviezel]

Who among us cast the first stone? You don't. You don't have. You don't have sex by cradling someone and gently rocking like that. You rock like that. And then you go, the next movie. The next movie you don't need to be that dirty. The next movie, you're gonna have her put pasties on and you're just gonna press against each other. You don't need to do any more sex scenes. You've satisfied bail enough.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You've done everything honestly.

[Dave Anthony]

So they compromise. And in the sex scene, he and Ashley Judd keep their clothes on. But at one point, Jim took off his shirt to reveal another shirt.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. That is. That is awesome.

[James Caviezel]

He's also got one of those Bugs Bunny kisses.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep, yep. So now everybody knew. And Jim was being asked all the time about his dislike of sex scenes. And Jim said, quote, you're never going to see my butt on film unless I'm in the Holocaust walking around.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What the fuck? What a crazy.

[James Caviezel]

I like that he gave people an in.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You want to see my ass?

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

And that's a great. That's a great. I think that's a worthy reason to bring up the Holocaust.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

I'm not getting naked unless it's the Holocaust. Okay.

[Dave Anthony]

Because they were all naked. Every time I think of the Holocaust, I think about dicks and asses.

[James Caviezel]

All he had to do was get fat and have an Orson Welles career.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep.

[James Caviezel]

All he had to do was be like Cardinal Richelieu type characters or like, I am the mysterious man with the briefcase. Nobody wants to have sex scenes with those guys.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, he's staying in good shape.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah. He had what? Dumbasses, stop being hot.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, I get that a lot.

[James Caviezel]

Let it go.

[Dave Anthony]

Let people say that to me. People say, dumbass, stop being hot all the time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right. People in the business or.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, people in the. People on the street. People in the business.

[Gareth Reynolds]

My wife.

[Dave Anthony]

My wife says that.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, you got a lot of wives in here. There.

[Dave Anthony]

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[James Caviezel]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Dave Anthony]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Dave Anthony]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

It's just they have great vegetarian meals too. They have. They really do.

[James Caviezel]

So, yeah, I've had them.

[Dave Anthony]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Dave Anthony]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. Yeah. And we can't say enough about going to watch Bill's special. And a lot of people often ask, when is Bill gonna do an episode? As soon as he has something to promote, he's gonna. So we're just waiting for there to be like a thing. Yeah. So his special comes out Friday. So go give that a watch on Hulu. And yeah, as soon as he has something that he.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. When he has something.

[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Dave Anthony]

He's gonna come on the show. So Mel and Jim meet and I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Won'T show my ass.

[Dave Anthony]

Only if Jesus is in the Holocaust.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Only if Jesus is bending over to pick up something, then I'll show balls and anus.

[James Caviezel]

Is there any kind of straw or wicker that we can put over Mary Magdalene's breast?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Impossible.

[James Caviezel]

Also the foot washing they have is there. They need to have boot like little booties on socks. And if I'm gonna wash their feet, they need to be socks.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm married, you see.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim said he would do it. But then a bit later, Mel called to explain, quote, if you take this part, you may not work in this town again. Because that's what happens when you play Jesus.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sure.

[Dave Anthony]

You never work in the town again.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

Jim, being into my movie is going to be the most dangerous thing of your life. And that's not egotistical. That's just me complimenting myself.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. By the way, I'm an alcoholic.

[Dave Anthony]

Raging alcoholic at one point. Because they would have this conversation all the time. And Jim said, quote, look, we all have to bear our crosses.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And he's saying that.

[James Caviezel]

And Mel Gibson was like, good idea, draft number two.

[Dave Anthony]

And Mel just keeps saying it. And at one point, Jim said, quote, mel, my initials are J.C. and I'm 33 years old. And Mel replied, quote, you're freaking me out, and hung up the phone.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They are so perfect for one another. I watched the original Lethal Weapon probably a year ago.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It was on tv. And I was like, this character they've created is legitimately scary.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like, they. Like, back then, people like, wow. Yeah, he's just a wild man, Riggs. He's crazy. No, it's, like, problematic. And you can tell Mel Gibson's like, I'll make up a lot of it.

[Dave Anthony]

So during filming, Jim said he and Mel went to Mass almost every single day together. Then Jim heard the Pope went to confession every day. So Jim did the same quote. I didn't want the Lucifer to have any control over the performance.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, it's God again. Look, I did all this. Chill out so much. This is crazy. What's going on? Calm down.

[James Caviezel]

Mel Gibson was like, you're freaking me out, man. Lucifer, he's the angel of light. All right, we're gonna make this picture. Lighting department, you're out. Grip and electric out. All natural lighting, only candles. Barry Lyndon from now on. This is Jesus Christ here. If the sun's not out, we're not filming that day.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Freaking me out.

[Dave Anthony]

So.

[James Caviezel]

Mel, that's all of Mel Gibson's performances. Hey, Mel, would you audition to play Hamlet?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sure.

[James Caviezel]

You got it. You win.

[Dave Anthony]

His wife brought a man who lived in a Croatian village where an apparition of Mary had appeared and still appeared. So this guy, the guy that she brought, gave Jim a piece of the cross Jesus died on, quote, I kept this on me all the time. They made a special pocket in my clothes for it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What the. No way.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. No, it's not real.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It was just, like, from a door. Yeah, yeah, that'll work. That's what this little jean pocket here is for. Pop a little bit of the old cross in there.

[Dave Anthony]

The set of the Passion was incredibly dangerous and should have had a union rep there to protect the actors.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jesus Christ. I mean, I don't even mean to do it like that.

[Dave Anthony]

It was. It was filmed in a ghost town in Italy. Entertainment Weekly reported that Jim and the first AD were struck by lightning.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. A producer quote, I'm about 100ft away from them when I glance over and see lightning coming out of Cavell's ears.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're freaking me out, man. What?

[Dave Anthony]

Both Caviezel and Michelini got struck. The main bolt hit Caviezel and one of its forks hit Michelini's umbrella. That was the second time Michelini had been struck by lightning on the set.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's time for Michelini to leave.

[James Caviezel]

I looked at Mel, and I looked at Mel in that moment, and I said. I said, are we going to keep filming? And Mel said, cut. And that's when I fell into a pile of ashes. And then he came. He came with an. He came and scooped me up with a broom, whisked me into a little dustpan, and then he. He. He poured it out. He poured it out and, like, I came back to life.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That one really freaked him out.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

You're freaking me out, man. Jim's story kind of has been exaggerated over time. Jim, quote, I climbed the mountain. Clouds had formed. Five seconds before the strike. I had felt what was going to happen. Suddenly, I was struck by lightning. I was terrified, but at the same time, I felt peace on the inside. Before it all happened, Melody shouted, action. It was at the moment I was stoked, stroked. Afterwards, I heard Mel shouting, what the hell happened to his hair? It was really funny.

[James Caviezel]

You know, that was. That was the one time I was sure that it wasn't a message from God at all, because I had talked to Mel Gibson. Gibson on the phone.

[Dave Anthony]

On the movie. The crown of thorns kept moving, so they tightened it to his head, which caused Jim migraines, and that made him too sick to eat. He walked the streets carrying the heavy wooden cross. And then he fell one day, quote, As I went down the cross, it actually struck my head and buried my head in the sand. I bit through my tongue. In the tape, you'll see streams of blood coming down from my lip. That's actually my own blood.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What the fuck? What is he doing?

[James Caviezel]

Mel Gibson crucified this man.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. Yeah, no, this is like, I'm freaking me out, man.

[James Caviezel]

And then he blamed it on the Jews.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, this. This movie is why we have union reps. Yeah. He had a torn AC joint when he was whipped by Roman soldiers. One accidentally hit Jim, causing a 14 inch cut in his back.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is he Jesus?

[Dave Anthony]

That's. That's the question we're gonna answer.

[James Caviezel]

The second coming of Jesus. He lives in Malibu.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

He's not. He's not doing anything to save anybody. He's just rich, giving, like, bad interviews.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Falling a lot. He's calling for. He needs his dad on set. Dad, the cross fell on me. It's C9, Jim. Where really, you've got a lot of pressure right there.

[James Caviezel]

Was that a vertebrae or a Thomas guide?

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was. It was using a Thomas guide on the back.

[James Caviezel]

A real chiropractor. He has the top. You want the spine to look like a freeway.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You want it? Yeah. It's kind of like Sepulveda, if you really think about it.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

It shouldn't be like this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It should be like this wide open.

[Dave Anthony]

It was also very cold. Quote, we were at one. We were at a 1,000 foot cliff and the winds would come down on top of it. I had a dislocated left shoulder. On top of that, I had pneumonia. I got really sick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's crazy. How much of this do you think is true?

[Dave Anthony]

A lot of it, actually.

[James Caviezel]

From what I. Yeah, I would say there are some Tex Avery cartoons that are more believable than this.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Honestly, I. I think that. I think Mel Gibson is nuts. And I think that they.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, he also.

[Dave Anthony]

Essentially doing his own stunts.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, he's. But he's also. He's probably as playing Jesus in his head. He's like, I really need.

[Dave Anthony]

That's 100.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get up and like.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Act for your sins.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. Yeah. He thinks getting. He thinks the more hurt he is, the more he's genuinely doing the role.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right. Right. Well, it's fun, Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

Now, Jim doesn't really realize movie sets can be safe environments. And he says it was dangerous. Quote, A lot of these mistakes were occurring, but it was making something much more beautiful that will last forever. If we had shot that film in a studio, you wouldn't have seen that performance. Was it worth it? Absolutely. Because otherwise you'd be acting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

I don't know. I think it would be nice to see some guy getting, like, beat up and whipped with one of those old Hollywood studio backdrops where they're like, all right, it's time for me to Walk out of this town and it's clearly just like a painting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah. Jerusalem.

[James Caviezel]

Jerusalem. Let's go, fellas.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Come on. Look at that star. Let's go find this baby.

[James Caviezel]

And there's a yellow brick road that just winds off into the distance.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jesus Christ. We met a cowardly lion. All right, fuck it. We're gonna go see a baby born without se.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim believed the movie would convert people. If he really looked like Jesus. And his wife agreed. Carrie. Quote, the first time I saw the cross on him, he didn't. It must be him on the cross. He didn't know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I like it that way.

[James Caviezel]

I thought she was like, it looks good on you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I know, that's great.

[James Caviezel]

It makes you look tall.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

No, she is saying the first time she saw him carrying the cross.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, carrying the cross.

[Dave Anthony]

The first time I said it was.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Down fountain, 25 miles towards his hotel. And then he got his steak.

[Dave Anthony]

I told him always.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Then he got in a cab and he had to put it on top. And then he got a steak.

[Dave Anthony]

The first time I saw the cross on him, he didn't look like my husband. He looked like Christ. It was so real.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Crazy thing to think and say, yes, he was Christ.

[Dave Anthony]

It was so.

[James Caviezel]

You know, there were a couple of times when I did, actually, I asked him to stay in costume and have.

[Dave Anthony]

The cross with him.

[James Caviezel]

And after he was done filming, I just. I wanted to know what it was like to fuck God.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He insisted I wear pasties. And he put a towel over it.

[James Caviezel]

But I was dry humped. Were you there when I was dry humped by my Lord? Sometimes it causes me to fake it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Fake.

[Dave Anthony]

Was so real that people looked at him in the way that people must have reacted to Christ. Some were full of reverence, some were indifferent, and some made fun of him. It struck us both. We understand in a small way what it must have been like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Crazy. I mean, how do you not like. To me, that would be blasphemous. Like, if you're saying. If you're. Just because you believe in it, you could be like, Jim was Jesus for a little while back then.

[James Caviezel]

So I would love it if they really got to their head. And he came to set one day and he was like. And he was like, there's. They're giving people snacks on the set of the Lord. No, he overturned craft services, Red void.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then you see him eating a fruit roll up. Jim. Jim, were we rolling? Let's go.

[Dave Anthony]

Come on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're all starving.

[Dave Anthony]

Both Jim and Carrie said the same thing. Quote, there Will never be a more important thing that he ever does.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[James Caviezel]

Oh, that's a great way to parlay this into more work.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

So before the film was released, Jim screened it for higher ups at the Vatican.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, that. That must have been amazing.

[James Caviezel]

And then they were allowed.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You guys, take your hats off. Nobody can see. Everyone's having.

[James Caviezel]

Your hat will come off.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, your hat will come off before the curtain serves, please.

[Dave Anthony]

What? Why is someone washing my feet?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, stick around for the bloopers, Bishop.

[James Caviezel]

They were allowed to jerk off as long as long as there was, like, the insulation. Like bubble wrap. Bubble wrap?

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[James Caviezel]

They had to do it through bubble wrap.

[Dave Anthony]

That's right. That's the only way. There's no other way to do it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. That's all you hear during it. It sounds like a lot of you up front are jerking off. So if you could. Very convinced. It's a very convincing performance, Jim. Oh. Oh, wow. Oh, Craig. Oh, wow. Oh, can we get a sneeze guard on the film? Oh, yeah. Oh. So after.

[James Caviezel]

After screening Father Saavedra, it seems all your bubbles have flattened.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I had a good time popping them.

[Dave Anthony]

So after screening of the Vatican, he and Carrie made the pilgrimage to Magigiore. This is where, in 1981, two young girls saw a woman holding a baby on Mount Podro. Obviously it was the Virgin Mary. Ever since, tons of Catholics make the pilgrimage every year to see Mary, even though the Catholic Church investigated it and said it was not legitimate.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. And they do thorough investigations.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, I. I've seen Sister Wendy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah, they do. They got to the bottom of a lot.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So Jim and Carrie visited to see and feel. Mary and Carrie had been. Had already been once when Jim was filming Monte Cristo. So this is her second time. Carrie, quote. I knew immediately from what I was feeling in my heart that it was real.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep. That's how it works.

[Dave Anthony]

That's exactly how it works. Two little fucking. Two little five year olds saw a lady with a baby and they're like, we saw the Virgin Mary.

[James Caviezel]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim is now a big Christian celebrity.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[Dave Anthony]

He was part of Reform the Vote, which was the evangelical answer to Rock the Vote.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jesus. I mean, Rock the Vote was pathetic, but it's absolutely Reform the Vote, quote.

[Dave Anthony]

We'Re trying to do something just as hip and entertaining, but without being too risque.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's right.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

You know, it's pretty cool. Risque. Rock the Vote was filthy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

They had the Barenaked Ladies.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Disgusting. They almost swore in a song.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim made an ad telling Young evangelicals to vote. It was sent by email. It was on jumbo screens, at Christian concerts, on thousands of radio stations. So he's like a big deal, right? He basically was making it known. Opposed to abortion, judicial activism, and homosexual marriage. You know, the big three.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right. And the holy Trinity.

[James Caviezel]

Hug. Cradle hug.

[Dave Anthony]

Fucking cradle hug.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Not rock the vote. Slowly kind of move backwards and forwards for the vote, and then when you do bust, kiss the neck lightly and shamefully blink.

[James Caviezel]

Well, brush the box.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Brush the box. This election season, we're asking you to brush the box. Don't even put the vote in. Slowly go around it before dropping your ballot. Put a towel over the hole on the ballot box and gingerly go near it. The box might want you to drop it in eventually, but don't.

[James Caviezel]

I have never. I have never given a full insertion to any kind of election material.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, don't give her the hanging chad.

[Dave Anthony]

When the Pope died, Jim went to the funeral as a guest of Senator Rick Santorum.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God.

[James Caviezel]

I love Santorum's. Like, you want to plug? I go, we want a plus one. I got an.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I got an extra Santorum. Santorum became Santorum. Actually. He was. He was an icon eventually. Didn't he have a verb name? Yeah, he got verbed.

[Dave Anthony]

You got verb.

[James Caviezel]

It's. It's. I believe it's a. It's a noun. Describes the frothy mix of fecal matter and expended sperm that's inside of an asshole.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Plus one.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, they got it. Yeah, it was. It was. When you Googled it, that's what came up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

That was the best thing Dan Savage ever did.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The legacy is great of Santorum.

[Dave Anthony]

The best thing. The best thing.

[James Caviezel]

Sounds like Seattle over there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

The best thing Santorum ever did was when his wife had a baby who was dead. They brought it home for the kids to meet.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, that's the intermission. Was.

[James Caviezel]

That was that weekend at Babies.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God.

[James Caviezel]

It's a. It's a low, lower threshold of like, pulling it off, I guess.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's a miracle. He.

[James Caviezel]

He doesn't do much yet.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Holy.

[Dave Anthony]

At the funeral, other congressional reps were starstruck, like Rep. Gil Goodnicked.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And that was a senator.

[Dave Anthony]

That's a rep. Oh, wow. He said Jim was a Vatican expert, an amateur historian, and then he quoted Jesus in Aramaic.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sure.

[Dave Anthony]

Gilrote. When he got back, he wrote an op ed for local papers. Quote, his steely blue eyes emphasized these were much more than memorized lines for a movie. I wondered Whether Mel Gibson chose him for the part or he was merely an instrument in the decision.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right.

[Dave Anthony]

In 2009, Jim said he was Jesus wherever he went.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Quote, wow, this is crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

I can't take my collar off. It doesn't matter what I wear. Now it has gone beyond that. People used to mouth the words, there goes Jim. And you can see there's Jim Caviezel. Now they mouth the word. Now they mouth the words, there goes Jesus.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's so fucking crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

That's a good and a bad thing, isn't that?

[James Caviezel]

But wouldn't this sounds like the talented Mr. Ripley.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The non talented Mr. Ripley.

[James Caviezel]

Everything here seems to remind me of Jesus. Everything that is, except for you. What have you done with Jesus?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh my God.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim now claims he is blacklisted from Hollywood because he played Jesus, not because he was a sex symbol dude who wouldn't with on camera.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, also, where's my cum towel?

[James Caviezel]

At every opportunity he got in front of a microphone and was like, I'm blacklisted.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[James Caviezel]

I'm taking a role that will inevitably lead to my blacklisting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[James Caviezel]

Here I am to promote a film that's unpromotable.

[Dave Anthony]

From the time the Passion came out to 2011, he was in at least seven films and had a reoccurring role on a TV show. Then in 2011, he was cast by Jonathan Nolan and J.J. abrams to star in Person of Interest on CBS.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's a crazy reaction. Will you shave for the role, Jesus? That's the only question. Because we see the back of your hands and your profiles.

[James Caviezel]

I'll shave if it's a principal role.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It is a principle. We're looking for the lead.

[James Caviezel]

Is it a featured guest role?

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, it is a lead. We're looking for an absolute lead and person of interest. We'll let you keep a little bit of stubble.

[James Caviezel]

The stubble that will make it work. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And there are a lot of sex scenes. That's the only thing.

[Dave Anthony]

Mostly receiving.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, it's mostly.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, well, it's fine. We can put those in and then just later on in 300 years it'll get cut out of the version of it that people get to read.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's right. Yeah. We'll translate that. Absolutely. Yep. No problem. Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

So in the show, Jim is an ex CIA agent and Green Beret John Reese. He works with a guy who developed a computer program for the government called the Machine.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Whoa.

[Dave Anthony]

In the show, the Machine can. Can identify people planning terrorist acts.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The Machine can identify people planning terrorists. Aha.

[James Caviezel]

Yes. So Pre crime.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Future crimes.

[Dave Anthony]

Now, some of you may have heard the episode I did of the QAnon podcast. QAnon is a fantastic podcast. QAnon Anonymous. They. They do all things Q. Jake Rockontansky and Travis View and Julian Feld. Julien Feld did a lot of investigation into Jim's time on Person of Interest. So that's where I took a lot of this from. Got their permission. So we're going to cover it here. Julian interviewed three crew members on the show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, boy.

[Dave Anthony]

They said a name was People of Interest. A name was created by the crew.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, God.

[Dave Anthony]

For when you were caught in an incoherent discussion with Jim. They called it the Cavortex Christ Hole.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They called it the Vortex. Cavortex Vortex is amazing. Oh, my God. So you'd just be standing there and he'd be like, how was your weekend?

[James Caviezel]

Now, you know the reason it's called the Book of Enoch is because he was taken up from heaven.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

That's why the book was taken up out of the Protestant Bible.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're almost set up on the.

[Dave Anthony]

We need Jim on set.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're almost set up on the turnaround, so we should probably.

[James Caviezel]

You know, the. The translation is different in the Septuagint. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

And the Septuagint is different than anybody.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're just probably gonna. We're not even gonna make a day if we don't get moving. So that's the whole. But no, that's unbelievable. That's a crazy.

[James Caviezel]

You realize that Jesus never says, thou shalt not kill. That's not there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I didn't actually. I didn't know. That was not attributed.

[James Caviezel]

It's a fabrication. It's a fabrication of the medieval church. That's a fabrication of the.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Getting it in my earpiece. We're really ready to. They're so ready to the stand ins or.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim on Saturday.

[James Caviezel]

You know what they say, the way. The way Adam.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Everything's lit.

[James Caviezel]

Adam and Eve, you know, they could have told that they were the first people. They wouldn't have had belly buttons because they were never born. They wouldn't have had belly buttons because they were never born.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. I mean, I guess.

[James Caviezel]

Also, no one never had to rescue any of the aquatic animals. That's how it worked. People falsely say, right, yeah, the aquatic animals were already taken care of. Well, yeah, Some of the dinosaurs were probably babies.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well. But they were around then. You think. Think that's crazy. But. Okay, well, we really should probably rehearse it because I think everybody's. You Know a lot of. I mean, as if you don't want to go into the cold. We don't go to overtime.

[James Caviezel]

It's good that you mentioned that because I'm not mentioning.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I believe the only thing I say is that we need to shoot that.

[James Caviezel]

I agree with you on this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. But I'm saying that it's time to.

[James Caviezel]

The world of the old world before Noah. That was God's rehearsal. And then he decided, well, that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What a great segue. I. Unbelievable. What a great segue to. We should.

[James Caviezel]

We are a rehearsal for the thousand.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Year reign of Christ and for the person of interest episode guest starring Ben Savage which is. Which is exciting to have.

[James Caviezel]

You know what's person of interesting? I'll tell you what's person of interesting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't even.

[James Caviezel]

Matthew. Matthew.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Matthew. Tax collector, right?

[James Caviezel]

He was a tax collector.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Can we.

[James Caviezel]

And the Lord redeemed him. The Lord redeemed.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why don't we walk. Let's walk while you talk a little bit more about him. I think that would be.

[James Caviezel]

Probably walking on water is possible for birds. Why is it not possible for a Lord Jesus Christ?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't know. I mean, we can take a golf cart, no problem. I. I mean we can easily do that. They're all charged up, so we could do that. We could do a bike. We could do a walk. I mean, I'd crawl at this point, to be quite honest with you. I really. Just as far as getting you there soon. It's really. It's imperative. It's imperative. I mean, your number one.

[James Caviezel]

No one knows the day or time. No one knows the hour.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, I mean say tell that to the ad.

[James Caviezel]

The Lord comes like a thief in the night.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The AD would beg the difference.

[James Caviezel]

The Lord will come. And a thief, John of Patmos said this. You realize that really.

[Gareth Reynolds]

10 pages.

[James Caviezel]

The book of Revelation describes the eschaton.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I just think there's references to helicopters. Yeah, well, we don't have one of those.

[James Caviezel]

There's references to helicopters and Henry Kissinger in the book of Revelation.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, I mean he was. He was old for sure. So that's. That is a wild development. I mean, I'll put you on a. I'll. I'll carry on my back. I'll put you in a Bjorn.

[Dave Anthony]

I don't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, we really should. Before we. Before we get into this any further.

[James Caviezel]

Babylon. Oh, Babylon, the woman of a thousand.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, exactly.

[James Caviezel]

Above her, riding atop a beast with a thousand eyes. Written above her Babylon. The.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, well, we can.

[James Caviezel]

You realize that's a Reference to New York City.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, I. We are actually doing some exteriors for New York, but we really. In order to get those. We are going to have to wrap out of here on time today. We're trying to get out of here at 7:30 without quite. We have to be done by 7:30. That's the hard out. That is the hard out. Yeah. No, but don't use it.

[James Caviezel]

There will be an Antichrist.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, well.

[James Caviezel]

And I'll tell you what will be an Antichrist. There will be a false prophet.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It feels anti. Union to push any further, honestly. I mean, you got the guy. We're. We're. Jim, we are. We're close. We're close. We're close. We are close. Yeah. No, but we are. We. We should. How about this? How about this? Let's just. Let's do the lines and we'll walk over there and we'll. And we can. We can do any version that feels right for you.

[James Caviezel]

He's hidden a red marker in his pocket and he's like, oh, stigmata.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay. All right, we're ready. We're ready. We're ready. We're ready.

[Dave Anthony]

He always comes out with red vines in his hand.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Continuity might have an issue.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. Quote. This is the Cavortex quote. It's just him soft talking about three inches from your face. Total stream of consciousness. But not a consciousness that was going in a linear fashion. A colleague would have to come pull me out all the time. I have never had a real conversation with him in years of working together.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I. I feel like we went through it. I.

[James Caviezel]

That was exactly.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I feel like we had it.

[James Caviezel]

Are you familiar with the story of Balaam and the ass.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Were we talking. You. I just looked over here and you were looking at me.

[James Caviezel]

That's right. What? I. I heard you. I heard you say that we were ready to go.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, we are. Yeah, we're ready to go. Get you to your mark and then.

[James Caviezel]

No. The picture of readiness in the Lord's word. Balaam.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Balaam.

[James Caviezel]

Balaam. Who was on. He was on it. He was on a wayward path.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, we're behind schedule. Let's bail him out.

[Dave Anthony]

Is he from the Hobbit?

[James Caviezel]

The Lord spoke to him through his donkey.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, actually, you're telling me.

[James Caviezel]

If that's possible. That. You're telling me that's possible, but it's not possible for the animals to get on the.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're not supposed to look at Jim Caviezel. We were very clear.

[Dave Anthony]

Take this energy and use it in this scene.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're Just supposed to be eating a sandwich in the background. Jim, come on, bud, grab the hand. Let's get over there as soon as we can. We really don't have too much time today. We really don't.

[James Caviezel]

I will touch your hand. I will touch your hand as a microcosm. The microcosm, the Michelangelo said, is a microcosm. It is the creation.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, we are in this moment.

[James Caviezel]

It is the.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, we are four hours behind. Jim, we are four hours behind schedule.

[James Caviezel]

This is the. This is the creation of the universe.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, this can't keep happening.

[James Caviezel]

You realize that the Bible itself is a mathematical code.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim. I. I listen. The script is a mathematical code. Each scene is broken down.

[James Caviezel]

The Holy Spirit is your DNA.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There's Jim. Guys, please.

[Dave Anthony]

Guys. We're seven weeks into the show, and we have filmed half an episode.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And it's an amazing half.

[James Caviezel]

I'll tell you, a person of interest.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't say Jesus Christ.

[James Caviezel]

Christ.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim. If you can believe this, Jim often forgot his line. So they made an adjustment. Quote every single scene. We gave him cards with just his lines numbered, nobody else's lines. And he would just kind of cup them in his hand. And if you watch the show, you can see him look down constantly.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. The book of Brando.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim said that he had brain damage from different. From a basketball game, from a motorcycle accident.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And having a crucifix fall on his head.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, crucifix fall on his head. Once Jim became furious that he did not get a card. And the crew said, we don't want to insult your intelligence by printing up this small line. And Jim was like, I want a card. So they wrote the line out. No.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God.

[Dave Anthony]

Quote, quote, a source quote. He's one of the stupidest people you will ever meet.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're freaking me out, man.

[Dave Anthony]

He is not smart. I pray for him that he never winds up in a paper bag, because he will be stuck and he will die. It was like working with a dog.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's the only way he'll do sex scenes, though. So the die.

[Dave Anthony]

The writing staff is now writing shorter and shorter lines for him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Now the trained. They have a dog on the show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Who knows the lines better.

[James Caviezel]

They have to. They have to organize the script into, like. They put numbers after, like, two or three sentences to make it look like Bible verses.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, right. All right. Can you do him, Ham? Give him his next hymn.

[James Caviezel]

And thus, and thus said the detective to his client. Oh, woe is thee.

[Dave Anthony]

So the dog on the show is named Boker.

[Gareth Reynolds]

His name poker Boker. Bogart.

[James Caviezel]

Boker.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Boker. So it's not a name.

[Dave Anthony]

It's not a name. Jim was repeatedly told to not yank Boker's leash. But Jim kept yanking Boker's leash until Boker bit him.

[James Caviezel]

You know, I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

In the middle of my hand, I.

[James Caviezel]

Hear your crowd like that. And I remember the crowd in Jerusalem that said jam. That said over and over again, free Barabbas. Free Barabbas. Free Barabbas. We'll crucify our Lord. We'll crucify our Lord, but we'll free the thief Barabbas.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, I have to shoot.

[James Caviezel]

I turn to you. I turn to you now and I say this day, before the day is over, you will be in heaven with Jim. Father.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, you will not forgive him. Jim, we are at night.

[James Caviezel]

Lord, forgive them. They know nothing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This episode airs Sunday, Jim. This episode airs this Sunday, Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

So do you know. Do you know how fucked up you have to be to a show business dog to get him to bite you? Like, they're the most trained dogs in the world. They have to now replace Boker.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Because he can't be on set because he bit Jim.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I won't work with Jim. You're a dog.

[Dave Anthony]

Boom.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Do it.

[Dave Anthony]

They get a new dog and they have to paint his chest white to match poker. And Jim is now, by the way.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I feel like the show's no longer the hero. How close are we to spray painting Boker? Boker's passed out. We did it in the trailer again.

[James Caviezel]

I've decided to paint the dog myself.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[James Caviezel]

Jim, I'm doing in the same. I'm doing it in the same way that Pepe Le Pew would paint a cat.

[Dave Anthony]

No, no, no.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was a. That was a sexually assaulting skunk. Jim.

[James Caviezel]

It's gonna have to be done one way or another. Jim.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You shouldn't even be having the paint, Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

So from then on, Jim was never allowed.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, imagine that guy. That guy was like, jesus Christ, I can't handle.

[Dave Anthony]

So he could never hold the leash again after that happened.

[James Caviezel]

The whole time he's walking around there and he's like, I am Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm Jesus Christ in a suit.

[Dave Anthony]

This is what Jesus would.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Actor Jesus.

[Dave Anthony]

If he was in a suit. This is what Jesus.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Actor Jesus.

[James Caviezel]

He turned down Dr. Manhattan, by the way, because it was. You'd have to be blue and naked.

[Dave Anthony]

Another source said from QAnon, said he had a childlike religious understanding and was not loving. Quote, he is not. He is filled with hatred of other. Jim was Consumed by bizarre religious, military, and nationalistic fixations. He always said he was friends with and trained with the Navy seals.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That is such a trope.

[James Caviezel]

I'm friends with the Navy seals. I practice with the Dodgers. I go to church. I go to church with some guys who. I go to church with some guys who are. They're in the Mafia.

[Dave Anthony]

My dad.

[James Caviezel]

My dad knows. My dad knows a gangster.

[Gareth Reynolds]

GI Joe is based on me. I'm friends with a couple werewolves.

[James Caviezel]

I met a Transformer. I met a Transformer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I am a Transformer. When lightning struck me, I became part robot.

[James Caviezel]

Were you there when my. When my. When my prime was crucified?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Do you remember?

[James Caviezel]

Were you there when prime died? Were you there when prime died three days later? And three days later, he rose and became the Lord of Cybertron.

[Gareth Reynolds]

More than meets the eye.

[Dave Anthony]

It becomes a running joke on set that he was always talking about Navy seals. He had an I Support Navy Steel sticker on every car he owned.

[Gareth Reynolds]

2.

[James Caviezel]

That's the ones they sell you when you try to check out at the website with the I am an EV SEAL sticker. Well, actually, we can't sell these to everyone.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Your card is still empty. Empty.

[James Caviezel]

Here's the. Yeah, there's a consolation sticker you're allowed to get.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, look, if I get pulled over by a Navy seal, they won't give me a ticket.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Give. Any idea how fast you were swimming back there, sir?

[Dave Anthony]

I found. I found a Navy SEALS subreddit, and they were all upset that Jim wears this pin because you are not.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And a fanny pack.

[Dave Anthony]

And a fanny pack.

[Gareth Reynolds]

In case someone wants to fucking. Oh, my God. And he's with Kerry Lake in case Kerry Lake wants to hump. But he's wearing what he's wearing the little, like, Navy SEAL pin.

[Dave Anthony]

You only wear it if you're a Navy seal. You don't like. It's eventually.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And he's in all Navy stolen valor.

[Dave Anthony]

You don't wear it. And he's just like. Well, I mean, I trained.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm near a lake. Wow.

[James Caviezel]

He's like, I also do some great horn tricks.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim also quote, he was obsessed with guns. He always wanted to shoot people and kill people, which is not a thing. Reese's character would shoot people in the knee. He was not a go for the head, go for the chest guy, but Jim really wanted to kill people.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, also, the writing of, like, he's a knee guy. He's the knee copy.

[Dave Anthony]

But they became so concerned with how much he wanted to kill people that they stopped using blanks on set now.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They use real bullets.

[Dave Anthony]

They started just doing gunshots and the effects after.

[James Caviezel]

The sound department could hear him on the microphone when he'd be like, I can't wait for this next take. They're gonna see what Jesus Christ, his revenge. Jesus face over here. He's gonna get it. He doesn't even know it right now.

[Dave Anthony]

I'm pretty sure Jesus would shoot this guy right in the fucking face.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You.

[James Caviezel]

Know, you realize that Jesus would have been against gun control. And he was, because he is. He was timeless. Of course, you know this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, I mean, I. Jesus told.

[James Caviezel]

Jesus told Peter the night he was betrayed in Gethsemane. Jesus. Jesus said. Actually, he said that if you're a fool, if you give up your knife, you should carry a sword. Any man should carry a sword.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, maybe you should carry a sword. I mean, maybe that might be a better.

[James Caviezel]

He was talking about guns. He was talking about guns when he said that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, regardless, I think the idea that maybe a sword or a knife or something like that might be a better thing for the character because it feels.

[James Caviezel]

You'Re second guessing Jesus.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I just want to shoot. I just want to. I just want to film. No, no, not shoot. No, no, no. Film, Film, film.

[James Caviezel]

Why are you stepping away from the truth of the Lord?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, because I feel like sometimes I'll say things, and it just gets us further behind schedule because it sets you off a little bit.

[James Caviezel]

So I'll tell you a story about Jonah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Do not tell me that story. You've told me the story about.

[James Caviezel]

He was a reluctant prophet. I know. He was. Rested under the tree.

[Dave Anthony]

I know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I know.

[James Caviezel]

Rested under the tree, followed him in a whale.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, this episode is already on you now. This episode is right now.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim would never swallow another dude.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Not unless I had a bag in my throat.

[Dave Anthony]

He might want to. He might want to. But Jim also always wanted to torture a source quote. He would be like, I have a great idea. You're gonna love this. Despite us not loving past 100 ideas. And he'd be like, what if I put a gun up his nose? The source said, he didn't seem to understand he would be doing this to another actor, an actual person, Cass, Mel Gibson. And that. Jim didn't seem to see a difference between actors and props. This not connected to reality thing spread to everything. Once in midtown Manhattan, Jim was supposed to pull up in a car. He, quote, blew a red light and nearly hit four or five pedestrians who were not with the production.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I like that. If they were with the production, that's okay. They have a day rate. They're under fives. Hit them. Jim, go gas it.

[Dave Anthony]

Because he's like, no, that's what my character would have done. I would come in hot.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

And I was like, this is 100% illegal and completely dangerous. For the last two and a half years of the show, Jim was banned from driving.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So he can't hold a dog. He can't drive. No guns.

[James Caviezel]

I'm blacklisted. They won't let me drive. They want me to hold dogs. They wouldn't let me. They wouldn't let me die for three days. You know, that was the studio that prevented me from dying for three days. I stayed in that cave for three weeks.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I know. And we know. And it was your trailer. It wasn't a cave. It was your trailer.

[James Caviezel]

Well, I put a large rock in front of it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I am aware of that. Yes, but we. Yeah, that was in your. Obviously, we're not okay with that. Yeah, but you're back and we're ready to shoot.

[Dave Anthony]

He told the showrunner Manhattan.

[James Caviezel]

He realizes the Rome of today.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, I don't. And I really. I can't express enough how much. We don't. We cannot do that again, Jim. It's not. It's just Manhattan. And by the way, getting permits here is ridiculous. I mean, we shut down a block. I don't know if you know what it's. I don't know what it cost to shut down a block in Rome back then, but it has to be way cheaper than now. I mean, we're over budget. We cannot shut it down again.

[James Caviezel]

I've seen this energy before in Pontius Pilate when he washed his hands.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't give me the Pontius shit again.

[James Caviezel]

Washed his hands when he killed me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, nobody killed you, Jim. Jim, nobody killed you.

[James Caviezel]

I was. I was killed. And I rose again from the grave, and I did it to save the souls and to put some guns.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You don't have to be at the table read reads. We keep. We keep bending. We're bending.

[James Caviezel]

I think the table read should be done on one long table.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, we're not doing last supper reads. No, no, Jim, we're not.

[James Caviezel]

No people on one side and six. No on another side.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, we already tried that. Jim.

[James Caviezel]

We tried that, and that's what got us that third season.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, I don't think it did. I don't know why. I wish we hadn't gotten a third season.

[James Caviezel]

Jim, ye of little faith. God.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim told the showrunner he was technically Jesus.

[James Caviezel]

I don't think that's something he told. That had to have been yelled.

[Dave Anthony]

Go.

[James Caviezel]

Tell me I can't drive a car. I'm technically Jesus.

[Dave Anthony]

And of course, like, Jesus Christ. He was absolutely frightening with weapons. Quote, similarly to blanks, if you had any sort of long arm in his hands or a large piece of metal during a fight, we would put a balaclava on him so he. We could double him because we didn't trust him to have this chunk of metal in his hands and do a fight.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

He's literally a crazy person on set. They're terrified that he's going to kill someone.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This fucking. We got to get this guy on the show.

[Dave Anthony]

This isn't even.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, that. That guy. That guy. They were like. Like, are we ready to shoot? He's like, I don't say it like that. Please hurry, hurry.

[Dave Anthony]

The last two seasons.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How many seasons they do.

[Dave Anthony]

They did five.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

The last two season, in any fight, his character was played by a stuntman and a balaclava. Never saw his face in any fight because they never had it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But just done that for everything. Just been like, that's what the character is. I'm going to wear this forever.

[James Caviezel]

I think I finally now, in my later years, have found the perfect thing to avoid kissing in any movies.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. A bag over my head during a.

[Dave Anthony]

Standard interview scene with Clark Peters, who's Lester from the Wire. Jim, instead of just interviewing him, put Peters in a headlock and dragged him across the room. Another time, he choked an actor. He slammed another's head into a mantle, and he punched another one in the face. A source quote. It was just over and over again. It's like having a puppy. No, you can't chew on that. No, you can't chew on that. Except the puppy talks about Hitler in a not completely unfavorable light.

[James Caviezel]

Well, let me tell you something. There's been a falsification in the mainstream TV that Hitler was somehow an atheist. And I think that's one of the worst things you could say about that man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[James Caviezel]

There was obviously. There was an alliance. There was an alliance, Jim.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. Come on. You found Hitler, dog.

[James Caviezel]

The Vatican. The Vatican.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hitler.

[James Caviezel]

You know, I found the perfect solution. I'm never gonna be naked unless it's a holocaust.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't say that anymore.

[James Caviezel]

And Mel taught me it didn't happen. So I never have to be naked.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. Jim. Jim, no. Oh, so I'll never do a nude scene. That's exactly right, Jim. That's right.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim did not have a problem. Ranting religious garbage on set. Anti abortion, anti LGBTQ. About 50% of the writers.

[James Caviezel]

What are these letters? What are these pronouns?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I won't do. I won't say pronouns.

[James Caviezel]

The only pronouns I see in the. In the word of God is the and thou.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And it just is so awkward to put that in the script. We tried, remember? We tried. It didn't work. Thy thigh. It sounds like thigh. It's weird.

[James Caviezel]

Are you with thy man? Are you a thy man?

[Dave Anthony]

Call me thigh. About 50% of the writers were LGBTQ, but Jim never knew. Once he refused to do a scene because Reese was going to save a gay couple who were in danger. But Jim said they were sinners and should be allowed to die.

[James Caviezel]

I mean, that's what my character would do. My character skipped a lot of ethics classes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That is crazy, obviously, for him. But the writers had to be like, this is not gonna go great. Like, we're like. You know what I mean?

[James Caviezel]

The writers, you know how they're usually, like, trying to teach America a lesson.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

They were actually just at this point, trying to teach him a lesson.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right. Yeah, yeah, right.

[James Caviezel]

A gay couple that your character saves.

[Dave Anthony]

Now, by save, do you mean kill?

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then they go to hell? They go to.

[James Caviezel]

They go. You kill them. They go to purgatory, Then they're. Then they go to heaven in separate rooms.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God.

[Dave Anthony]

Look at that. Hitler dog.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's separate rooms. All right. And you'll go left and you'll go right, obviously. Welcome. No hanky panky, boys.

[Dave Anthony]

So the showrunners talked to Jim, and they told him during 9 11, firefighters did not stop to ask people's sexual orientation before they saved them.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Should have.

[Dave Anthony]

And Jim then agreed to do the scene and later on. On set.

[James Caviezel]

All right, so I get it. I get it. He's moving fast. He doesn't know that they're gay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, well, sorta. It's not gonna come up, but. But if it were to come up, he would still do it. You know what I mean? It's an emergency. So.

[James Caviezel]

So when does he find out that they're gay and then put him back in the danger?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Look, Jim, quite frankly, he probably knows that they're gay before he saves them.

[James Caviezel]

Why would he. That's nonsensical. Why would he save them then?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Because they're in danger, Jim.

[James Caviezel]

The only way I could agree to it is if they. He doesn't know that they're gay. That's why.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But he knows that.

[James Caviezel]

Look, can they look like they're cousins or something?

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, he's not thinking about it. He. If it's a passing thought, he's going, oh, maybe they're together. Help them. That's how it's. That's the thought.

[James Caviezel]

Maybe they're these kinds of effeminate people were called to serve the Lord through music or something.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now, for fuck's sake. Fine. Christ. No, no.

[Dave Anthony]

Later on on set, Chip said very loudly, even if a person was trans, he'd save them. Like the 911 fireman.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So they tried to impart a simple lesson to him. Like, you see? And he was like, yeah, I do see. And then later, he's like, even if people were trans on 9 11, you should save him. And I was like, jesus fucking Christ, shut the fuck up. He overlearned. I don't know. I'm furious.

[James Caviezel]

It's the one day a year. It's the one day a year. It's acceptable.

[Gareth Reynolds]

9 11. It's like the opposite of the purge.

[James Caviezel]

You save everybody on 9 11.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Save everyone. Like Noah, but with gays, if you need to.

[James Caviezel]

Two of each kind, Even if it's the same kind.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Two of each kind, even if they're dating.

[Dave Anthony]

From then on, they filmed any scenes with gay people when Jim was not on the set. Jim was also very fixated on IDing Jewish people.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Holy.

[Dave Anthony]

It's fine.

[James Caviezel]

You got. You got some. You got some credentials there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Perhaps we could put something on their shirt.

[Dave Anthony]

Jesus Christ.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm just pitching.

[Dave Anthony]

All three. QAnon Anonymous podcast. Sources said Jim often brought up Hitler. Quote. He would talk about how Hitler was very organized and regimented and intelligent, and he had, like, a really smart plan. And Jim did Hitler impressions with his finger as a mustache, quote. I also had more than one cast member because he would frequently do a Hitler impression in the hair and makeup trailer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God.

[Dave Anthony]

Who came to me very uncomfortable, like, is this. What is this? It's not funny what's happening here. So that was a constant issue.

[James Caviezel]

Instagram person of interest.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just gotta finish the makeup, Jim. So if you could get your finger.

[Dave Anthony]

Down, could you imagine you're just getting your hair done and he's over there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Very funny. Can you shut up?

[Dave Anthony]

Fuck yes.

[James Caviezel]

You know, I appreciate that you're listening to Madonna here with some of the other actors. Just getting the morning started with coffee and everything. But I'm wondering if we could turn it down and listen to the Volksstorm.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Kind of get everyone in the mood.

[James Caviezel]

I have some Hitler on my Spotify.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's actually all Hitler. Okay. So my playlist. Sorry. I'm sorry.

[James Caviezel]

Mind band Comp.

[Dave Anthony]

Now this is going to surprise you, but Jim was not great with people of color.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There was an actual person right now who's like, what? That doesn't track.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim Caviezel often when he met a not white stranger.

[James Caviezel]

Well, they're not in the Bible.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You see, Jim, Jim, Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

When he met a not white stranger, Jim would speak in a fake version of their language with real words mixed in.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What is. I want to know what that means, but also don't want to hear you do it.

[Dave Anthony]

I know what it is in my head. I'm also not going to do it. Most of these people who did it to were native born Americans. They're just American people.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Americans.

[Dave Anthony]

He even allegedly spoke fabricated German to a white guy in the writers room who he'd never met. He started speaking gibberish Mandarin to a Chinese American woman who spoke fluent Mandarin and then argued with her when she said he wasn't speaking Mandarin.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, no impressions shall follow.

[James Caviezel]

You know, this is. This was the great evil that was put forth by Satan on earth in the form of Mao Zedong.

[Dave Anthony]

Once.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, we what we have to shoot.

[James Caviezel]

You know what sun yat sin means, Jim?

[Gareth Reynolds]

We are. I mean, people are quitting.

[James Caviezel]

All men have sun yat sin and fall short of the glory of God.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, we are falling short of CBS's schedule.

[Dave Anthony]

It's 4:00am It's 4:00am I know that.

[James Caviezel]

They know. I know that the communists who run the network would like us to take.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, they're not, Jim. They're not communists.

[James Caviezel]

Two steps forward and one step backward.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, Jim, you're still going one step forward. If we can just shoot.

[James Caviezel]

Are we, Are we going by the. Are we going by the, the great. The gospel. Are we going by the little Red book?

[Gareth Reynolds]

The schedule. The schedule. We're going by the binder. There's a schedule.

[James Caviezel]

I'll tell you, there's a schedule. No one knows it except the man upstairs That's.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And he is furious.

[James Caviezel]

You know what? The man who had the schedule was a man from Austria.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, no, Jim. No, no, no, Jim, no.

[James Caviezel]

He was blacklisted. He was blacklisted.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, Jim, no.

[James Caviezel]

When they canceled him, he was crucified.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

I can't believe he just said that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're on season four, but we're on script six.

[Dave Anthony]

It's season four, but it feels like 20.

[James Caviezel]

You know, I'm having a bunker built underneath my house.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's fine. And that is.

[James Caviezel]

It's in the shape of a cross. There's a tube and there's a Cross tube.

[Dave Anthony]

Once an Asian American studio exec came to set, and Jim walked up to him, pressed his hands together, bowed, and said, ahso.

[James Caviezel]

I mean, that's the classic. That's a classic. You never. You never. You never seen the. The Charlie Chan mysteries. You never saw the fantastic Peter Sellers, the Fed.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That stuff ages.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim Leonard told the crew it was fine because he adopted Chinese children.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Whoa. Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

He did. He adopted three Chinese kids.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Two had brain tumors. Benign when he adopted them, but I'm sure they wish they still had the brain tumors. He spoke. He spoke with a black scent when he met black people.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Caviezel]

Hey, man, what's happening, man? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm Jim Caviezel.

[Dave Anthony]

A source said he refused to have a romance with a black character. And in a production meeting, he said, quote, people shouldn't have interracial relationships.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. It's like he's on a CBS show.

[Dave Anthony]

He's on a cbs. This is a human resources issue.

[James Caviezel]

It is my job. It is my job to say the things that Jesus could not because he was cut short by Jews.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim. Holy. Look, we said you could keep your shirt and jeans.

[James Caviezel]

The Lord has sent his son back for an additional 33 years.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Let her kiss your little neck.

[James Caviezel]

I am supposed to live 33 years past my 33rd year, and in that time I will. I will have my wife kill herself and I will kill myself to avoid having my body.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now, Jim, do it now. It'd be easier to shoot if you were dead.

[Dave Anthony]

Can you say the lines?

[James Caviezel]

No, they're on the car.

[Dave Anthony]

So the romance with the character, the black woman, this actress they bring on the show to have a romance with Jim, doesn't happen. And then her character, then is just standing around doing nothing.

[James Caviezel]

I mean, yeah, I mean, what, you want me to be some kind of like, Captain Kirk? That didn't work.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, it did work, Jim. It was an important. No, it was over to tv.

[James Caviezel]

America saw that Star Trek was over.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, it wasn't. It kept going. It was a huge moment.

[James Caviezel]

Captain Kirk had an interracial romance with a couple of aliens and a couple of different races and stuff. And no. Everybody said, boo, Star Trek. We all know that now, Jim.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It kept going. They made nine movies, Jim. They keep making movies.

[James Caviezel]

And yet I can't. You realize there's supposed to be a passion of the Christ for each of the four gospels. We only got to do the Matthew one.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You wouldn't survive enough.

[James Caviezel]

Why are we allowed to do Luke.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[James Caviezel]

Mark.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't say another goddamn name.

[James Caviezel]

John of Patmos.

[Gareth Reynolds]

For sake, Jim. This is an hour procedural, Sunday nights.

[James Caviezel]

One time there, I never realized it aired on Sundays. I object to that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim, no.

[Gareth Reynolds]

My wife laughed.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim, no. They were filming on location in D.C. when Jim wandered off set.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It might be good.

[Dave Anthony]

And he joined I want to find.

[James Caviezel]

Thomas Jefferson and say hello.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Go.

[Dave Anthony]

And he joined a group who were protesting Islamic immigration and were planning to burn a Quran.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey, cool. Lunch break. I'm Jim Caviezel.

[Dave Anthony]

Rachel Kirsites of Decius covered it. There were a lot of counter protesters there too. And Jim said to them, quote, you are all wrong. I know. Islam is evil. All men. All Islamic men want Sharia. He told women. He told the woman. He just went up to a woman and said she should watch the stoning of Soroya M to learn about Sharia. Sharia, Sharia, Sharia. That movie of course, stars Jim. So he told me, you want to.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Learn about what you're talking about, watch my movie.

[Dave Anthony]

And then he spoke gibberish to her in Farsi, which she didn't speak.

[James Caviezel]

I'll tell you something that'll open your eyes about the evils of Islam. There's a movie called not without my Daughter. Want to see what it's really like? It's bad. It's bad. They have their own countries and they hate the American flag.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim. There's also a movie called Frequency where you talk to your father through a fucking radio about a murder.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, I am radio.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Your movies are dumb, Jim.

[James Caviezel]

You know where they don't have radios? The Middle East.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They have radios in the Middle East.

[James Caviezel]

They don't use radios in the Middle East.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, they do.

[James Caviezel]

They certainly do not.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, they do, Jim.

[James Caviezel]

Oh, you think you can get an fm, turn the dial to the right? It actually, that. Actually, the lower. The lower stations are on the right end of the dial and the higher stations are on the left end of the dial.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's how wrong it is. That doesn't even matter, Jim. They still have radios. He said they didn't even have them.

[James Caviezel]

I've never encountered any radios from the Middle East.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, you've never met anyone from the Middle East. From what it looks like, you just went up to that woman and spoke gibberish. Farsi.

[James Caviezel]

Jesus didn't like some people. Let me tell you about you, Jim.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim's lawyer claimed all that. All that stuff was. He said that was all a fabrication. It never happened.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Every time his phone rings, he's like, no, hello.

[Dave Anthony]

Showrunner Jonah Nolan was said to be exhausting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jonah.

[Dave Anthony]

Jonah Nolan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jonah.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

Ding, ding, ding. You know, I've got a lot of. I got a lot. A lot of alt Twitter accounts that I have, and I call myself a noticer. I notice. I notice certain types of people that are. Have their careers elevated and so forth. I'm blacklisted. I'm blacklisted. And I. I passed the time by having, like, fake accounts on websites, which is a normal thing to do.

[Dave Anthony]

So Nolan was exhausted after five years, and the show ended in 2016.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Holy shit. What a run, though. What a. I mean, the show is making the show.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. In 2020, Jim starred in a movie called Infidel, Produced by Dinesh D'Souza Media.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. Oh, what a great. One of my favorite producers.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. The Baltimore Catholic Review said it goes like this.

[James Caviezel]

God, country. Dinesh D'Souza.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. That's a crazy third, Jim.

[Dave Anthony]

The Baltimore Catholic Review said it was wildly Islamophobic. Muslims had picky noses. They scowl constantly and want to harm those who. Who disrespected them. The next year, Jim spoke at a QAnon conference over Zoom, where he then promoted the adrenocomb Adrenochrome conspiracy theory.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

At another conference, he gave Mel Gibson's battle speech from Braveheart.

[James Caviezel]

I am also Mel Gibson.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He's still alive.

[James Caviezel]

I think I'm Jesus Christ. I'm Mel Gibson.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And you're William Wallace.

[James Caviezel]

And I'm Braveheart. Yeah. And I'm Dickie. I'm Dickie from my talented Mr. Ripley, of course. Wow. And I found something that allows me to look at a Muslim person because I consider it offensive to my religious beliefs to do a scene with a Muslim person unless I'm blindfolded.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're blindfolded. There's no eye contact.

[James Caviezel]

There's no eye contact. It's not. It's not a. It's not. I'm not participating in Sharia law.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's a lot like the sex scene with Jennifer Lopez when I put a potato bag over my cock.

[James Caviezel]

A balaclava. Long underwear. Long underwear, blindfold. A fanny pack. I think we're ready for a fun weekend.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Hey, tell you what. Anything could happen now. Pretty much.

[Dave Anthony]

20Th Century Fox made the movie the Sound of freedom in 2018, but it was not released. No one wanted it blacklisted. Blacklisted.

[James Caviezel]

Blacklist.

[Dave Anthony]

And then came Angel Studios. The owners had previously cut cursing and sex for movies, but were sued and had to stop, and they then formed Angel Studios.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So they were finding mainstream movies Removing the sex scenes and then re releasing Mormons and whatnot. They were like, yeah, right.

[James Caviezel]

You guys want to watch Top gun? It's about 25 minutes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You ever heard of Wild Things? It's an eight minute movie. How about Showgirls? It's a credit sequence.

[Dave Anthony]

They formed Angel Studios in 2023. They offered to distribute the Sound of Freedom. Sound of Freedom is based on Tim Ballard, who claims to save trafficked children. His group is named Operation Underground Railroad. Totally normal. Totally normal name.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's an homage. Nothing wrong with that image.

[Dave Anthony]

Nope.

[James Caviezel]

You want your operation to not only be decipherable very quickly by both friendly and enemy sides, but you want it to have a little bit of bitterness to it. Operation I'm the good guy.

[Dave Anthony]

Now. Ballard is a big right wing celebrity. People close to Operation Underground Railroad say it's not effective or credible. Ballad goes into foreign towns with armed men and does photo ops with random children.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

And then he says he saved them. To all his religious people, he wants to credit for saving a girl who had actually escaped herself. The state of Utah is investigating. Oh, you are an Utah D A has warned that they are grifting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Of course, Utah is like, nope, we don't like it. What are you doing?

[Dave Anthony]

So of course Jim played Ballard.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Jim said he spent time in the operation and was going to go on a mission. But at the last minute it became too risky. Quote, my wife was scared for me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Uh huh.

[Dave Anthony]

Now they're gonna film the movie in Columbia and Carrie is worried about that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[Dave Anthony]

So just.

[James Caviezel]

She's a basketball player. She could tell when something's about to be a real tough basket.

[Dave Anthony]

That's well put.

[James Caviezel]

Thank you. Thank you. Dunk.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Not sure I fully follow, but I suppose I don't want to keep digging, Jim, because I feel like my wife.

[James Caviezel]

And I are back. Basketball players.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. No, I.

[James Caviezel]

When we, we play, it's nothing but net. And when we have sex with each other, it's just. We have basketball nets.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She has a net inside of her gym.

[James Caviezel]

Well, yeah, because that's, it's, it's we. I can do it myself as a loving husband. The procedure is very easy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm sorry, this is a surgical thing.

[James Caviezel]

No, it's not surgical. That's why I allow it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, I can't.

[James Caviezel]

I, I, I wear, I wear basketball shoes over my private areas.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Stop talking. That can't even, that can't even. Jim, please. I can't.

[Dave Anthony]

To make Carrie feel better about filming in Colombia, they had 30 Navy SEALs come to protect Them during filming. So she.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So they are. Yeah. So a bunch of Caviezels come to protect.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, a bunch of Caviezel.

[James Caviezel]

I'm not a Navy SEAL, everybody says, but I can get 30 of them to show up like that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep. Where are their fanny packs that hang over their balls?

[Dave Anthony]

But one day she called Jib and said there were. He said there's only two Navy SEALs on set. Because, quote, the other 28 saved 200 children.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God.

[James Caviezel]

And you know. You know what happens when a Navy SEAL saves a kid? It's like when a bee stings somebody and that's it. They get one save. They get one save and then they're out. Then they're out of the Navy seals. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Caviezel]

They turn in their pen and then they did it. They're like, I saved a kid. And they're out. No more.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep.

[Gareth Reynolds]

200.

[Dave Anthony]

And later, they would all credit Carrie with saving the children because she is. Why the Navy Seals were there and.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The first to protect Jim because of this shoot.

[Dave Anthony]

The film came out last year. It made a ton of money.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, I mean, you know, I watched it. Wait, what was that? What happened?

[Dave Anthony]

It jumped ahead. That wasn't supposed to be there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Did you see it?

[James Caviezel]

Yeah, yeah, I saw it. Not only I see it, I know it's true. That's why he's hiding it. He's hiding it from the crowd here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I didn't see it.

[James Caviezel]

He's hiding it. Just like the mainstream media.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What is it?

[Dave Anthony]

It's fine.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right. He's hiding. Yeah. Like the mainstream media show us.

[James Caviezel]

The dollop is controlled. The dollop. First of all, it's a reference to a quantum of cum.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It is. Talk about it. That's the origin story. It was a measurement of semen. Yes, sir.

[Dave Anthony]

So.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is your dad alive?

[Dave Anthony]

The Sound of Music is what Q is about. Sound of Music, Sound of Freedom, Sound.

[James Caviezel]

Of Freedom are alive with the Sound of Freedom. But I would love to just get to do. I would love to do that. And just in Hitler costume, Julie Andrews.

[Dave Anthony]

But Q is way worse than the Sound of Freedom. Q is old school Protocols of the Elders of Zion based Jew hatred.

[James Caviezel]

Like it's classic good stuff.

[Dave Anthony]

Classic baby eating stuff. Like it's classic stuff.

[James Caviezel]

Suppressed truth.

[Dave Anthony]

The main conspiracy theory of Q is that deep state Satan worshiping pedophilic liberals are behind an international child sex trafficking ring and that they harvest adrenochrome from kids and take it as a fountain of youth potion and drugs and eat pizza. They believe the elites scared the children to produce the adrenochrome.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's how it works.

[Dave Anthony]

For instance, they believe there's a dark web video of Hillary Clinton and her assistant Uma ripping off a child's face, using it as a mask to scare adrenochrome out of the child and then drinking the child's blood.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But to be clear, when you rip a child's face off, they're not scared enough. You'd think that that would scare a child enough to produce the adrenochrome, and maybe it would. But as an extra measure of safety, put the child's face on and you're guaranteed to get a little bit of adrenochrome.

[Dave Anthony]

You know what else you can do? You can go, boo. The Internet is filled with pictures of Democrats.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then it must really poke a hole in that. Biden's the nominee to be like, they're full of adrenochrome. To make them young. And then Joe Biden's like, four more years. Pause.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jim, while he's doing PR for the film, he keeps bringing up adrenochrome. Oh, shit. This is the trailer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Isn't it strange that you don't have that clip? Interesting, isn't it?

[James Caviezel]

The preview that was approved by big tech companies. That's what they would play on their platform.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So you're planning on showing a clip where Jim Caviezel talks about adrenochrome. You don't have it. Either because of divine intervention or it doesn't exist.

[James Caviezel]

Hold on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Watch the ASL interpreters. They'll tell you what's fucking real.

[Dave Anthony]

I'll pull it up right now.

[James Caviezel]

PowerPoint. Masonic signaling. PowerPoint.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Look at you, frazzled.

[D]

Adrenaline in your body. I'll just simplify it. And when you are scared, you produce adrenaline. If you're an athlete, you get in the fourth quarter, you have adrenaline that comes out of you. If a child knows he's going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline. And they have a lot of terms that they use.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, if you could just get it from an. If you can just get it from an athlete, why. If you get it from.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Has anyone seen Steph Curry?

[Dave Anthony]

If you can get it from an athlete, why are you killing? Why are you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, well, their argument is going to be, it's easy to just take a kid, right? You're not going to be able to go get Jimmy Butler whenever you want, saying, it's the.

[Dave Anthony]

It's the good.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It is the best.

[Dave Anthony]

The top notch, top shelf adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

I want to I want to make sure. I want to reestablish my authority to speak on this topic here. You're believing this because it's on a website and I'm dressed very nicely. And I'm in. I'm in my screening room with some empty chairs.

[Dave Anthony]

He's talking to a QANON conference.

[James Caviezel]

I know who I'm talking to.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm talking to the people talking to him right now.

[James Caviezel]

And you're talking to the Lord Jesus Christ.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim Caviezel. Jim Caviezel.

[James Caviezel]

The chain of authority here. You're. And I. And look, you're listening to me because you know that I am a person of interest. I am the Lord Jesus Christ. I am Defuhrer. And no, that's not Jim.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim's diversified a little bit, and we're excited to unleash the new Jim. He's doing a bunch of.

[James Caviezel]

My authority stems from the fact that the God. The God told me to be an.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Actor when I was 14 and 19.

[James Caviezel]

And I was in a movie called My Private Idaho.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah. Where there were gays, but he played an Italian.

[James Caviezel]

But it was 9 11. It was 9 11. So I decided it was okay to sell them tickets.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The plane that those two gay men got on hit Tower two.

[James Caviezel]

That's true. And that's where my authority is. Bay. That's my. The basis of my.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's where he's coming from. Okay. Do you understand? A little bit. Anyway, we'd love to do the. We'd love to do the episode of Big Bang Theory. Jim's excited to be a part of it. You know, as long as we agree it wasn't really a big bang. It was just something God created.

[James Caviezel]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So the song has to change.

[James Caviezel]

Have our answer to the Big Bang Theory.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. We're just looking for an alternative intro song.

[James Caviezel]

It's a room. It's a room of Christian nerds. And. Yeah, it's.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's Christian nerds. And the intro song will go like the whole universe was created by God. And then it starts.

[D]

It's the worst horror I've ever seen. Is screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever, ever saw it. It's just beyond. And these people that do it.

[James Caviezel]

There'Ll.

[D]

Be no mercy for them.

[Dave Anthony]

It's the clapping.

[D]

This is one of the best films I've ever done in my life. The film.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And I was in frequency.

[James Caviezel]

To be clear. I'm releasing this film to try to inspire people to lynch people. And I just said it here in an interview. I'm reasonably released this film about horrors that I've never seen. The worst horrors that I've never seen with my own two eyes with a blindfold on. And what I'm hoping is that this movie inspires people to kill people that are celebrities.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What Jim's asking is, if a tree falls in the wood and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?

[James Caviezel]

Shoot it? Torture it? Gun up its nose?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hold on, Jim. He jumps in as fast as he wants, which I love about him.

[James Caviezel]

Oh, you make fun of the tree language. Oh, I fall down.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, Jim, Jim.

[James Caviezel]

Made of wood. Made of wood. Big tree.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right, hold on, buddy.

[Dave Anthony]

Is this a character?

[Gareth Reynolds]

No. Jim's being himself for sure. You can tell. He's got the Navy SEAL pin on. That's Jim. But if a child has adrenochrome stolen from them and Jim's not around to see it, but he saw a video on 4chan about it, did it happen?

[James Caviezel]

You know what I. What? One thing we discovered in the making of this movie, There was a reason that Disney really tried to make sure the movie didn't come out, is because they use adrenochrome to power some of their animatronics in their parks.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah, Minnie's fully adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

The country bear jamboree.

[Gareth Reynolds]

100%. I mean, what do you think those are natural?

[James Caviezel]

12 child. 12 children. 12 scared, dying children have to go into every one of the country bears. The moose head on the wall that starts talking and singing. They have.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're getting off the rails a little. But what he's saying is true. The moose head is clearly full of child adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

And what they do is they sacrifice the children from each show, and then subsequently, that powers the animatronics for the next show system.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's the circle of adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

There's a reason there. There's a reason that the hall of Presidents only has elected presidents in it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Think about it, asshole. Sit there with your dumb ass look on your face. Everything he just said makes sense, sir.

[Dave Anthony]

This is a Wendy's.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I can't believe it keeps going.

[James Caviezel]

I think that what we've got to do is we've got to capture Tinkerbell and waterboard her and get the truth out of her, because she's seen everything, and she can make it stop if she dabs it.

[D]

Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body. I'll just simplify it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, simplify it, Jim.

[D]

When you are scared, you've produced adrenaline. If you're an athlete, you get in the fourth quarter, you have adrenaline.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That comes probably the first quarter, too.

[D]

Honestly, if a child knows he's going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline. And they have a lot of terms that they use.

[James Caviezel]

I won't give you those terms now. These are technical terms.

[D]

It's the worst I've ever seen is screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever, ever.

[James Caviezel]

Saw it.

[D]

It'S beyond. And these people that do it.

[James Caviezel]

There'Ll.

[D]

Be no mercy for them. This is one of the best films I've ever done in my life. The film is on a level of Academy Award level. Whether it ever gets seen in this industry, it's really up to your prayers and your word of mouth.

[James Caviezel]

So I actually have one of the movie theaters behind me as I'm filming that, and all the scenes sold out. The seats are. What the New World Order is doing is that they're buying tickets and then they're not showing up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's Marcus Cinema.

[Dave Anthony]

So there. So there is no. There's no. There's no. Here's the crazy thing. There's no adrenochrome in the film that he goes and does all this publicity and it's not part of the film. They just. It's just like child trafficking. You know, the fun part. But there's no. And so all these Q people are upset by that. So Jim is.

[James Caviezel]

Well, there's a. There's a savior's cut that's coming out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Actually doesn't.

[James Caviezel]

There's a messiah's cut of the film that's gonna come out.

[Dave Anthony]

There's other things that aren't in it that upset them. There's no deep underground military bases. Hillary Clinton. Clinton's not the leader of an adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

Product that's going to be in the sequel. That's going to be a TV spin off series.

[Dave Anthony]

But it is a massive success.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Huge.

[Dave Anthony]

Makes shitloads of money.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It was on Amazon, I think. I'm serious.

[Dave Anthony]

They put it on Amazon.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, it was on one of them. Yeah. It was on, like, a huge streamer where I was like, that's crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

I mean, it, like, knocked, like, Indiana Jones out of the top spot.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, to be fair, used a little adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

Adrenochrome. I was in Temple of Doom. The guy would pull a heart out, and he would pull the heart out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was adrenochrome.

[James Caviezel]

That was adrenochrome right there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right there.

[Dave Anthony]

But what happened was the rich people bought a ton of tickets and then they would Give you tickets for free. Like, I went and saw it to be on the Q Anonymous podcast and in the theater. Yeah. And I didn't pay. I just went and got a free ticket, which is. So they would, like, buy out tickets. They would buy out whole theaters and there'd be like two people in it. Two months after the film's release, Tim Ballard resigns from O UR because he's being investigated. At least seven women allege that they pretended to be his wives to go on these missions to save kids. And the women say this was part of a grooming process and he was first.

[James Caviezel]

They came for the groomers.

[Dave Anthony]

So five women have sued him for sexual assault and battery. A criminal investigation is also underway. The Mormon church, who was long in his ballot's corner, now called his behavior, quote, morally unacceptable.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's again, amazing when that church is like, we're actually disassociating, if you can believe. You're a little crazy, to be honest. Anyway, let's read plates.

[Dave Anthony]

Our former director of security, Matt Cooper, is also accused that their missions weren't actually to save children, but they were engaged in the lifestyle of wealthy sex tourists. Ballard calls it a shakedown and says he might run for the Senate.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep. Well, probably get really close now.

[Dave Anthony]

Obviously, Jim expected the movie to literally change the world and for everyone to realize what was happening with. With adrenochrome and all this other stuff. And then Ballard instead is out and he's being investigated. And Jim is not handling this well. He recently claimed the CIA was a huge big part of child trafficking, but let's just say he's had a rough year.

[D]

You watch it, you feel God's love and the power in this movie Sound of Freedom, and it makes you unafraid. I was willing to come forward and speak truthfully on things like adrenochrome organ harvesting, and was severely reprimanded by much of the media. And they claimed their fact checkers knew more. But they don't know like, you guys know, I put you up against them anytime. I just saw this from Wall Street Silver and it's got 4.7 million views. So let's just start there. It says his days are numbered, referencing me. They will make it look like an accident. He is likely correct. The CIA does this and it is used for blackmailing their assets and hide places to keep them in line. Hollywood actor Jim Caviezel says CIA operates world's biggest pedophile ring. Well, let me explain something to all of you in the world that think that I'm a little girl and I'm afraid of you. I'm not scared in the least bit. I gave God brought me into Hollywood to become an actor. He asked me to do that. He was my intel officer, the greatest God that, the only God I love, General Flynn, and how he gave his life. And guys like that inspire me. Warriors that I work with, SEAL teams that I work with. Not the media. Yes, there's good media like Lara Logan. People that are giving their lives, they actually go down there. Not your stupid fact checkers. And by the way, do you have to go to fact checking school? Where is that like a doctorate degree? Master's degree? I'm asking Christians public. Forget about Christians. Wake up. Stop fearing the devil more than you fear God. Stop being afraid. Stop. Unlike you, I know I'm gonna die someday. Why would you continue to listen to a media that's lying to you every day? You know, a couple years ago I met talking about adrenochrome. You can't say that word. You cannot say anything bad on George Soros. Do you know that? He know he owns many of these companies like the Daily Beast. Boy, they sure had their fun tearing me apart. I lost my agents 17 years and my other agent of 15 years because they listened to them and there's a big storm coming and they know it. So they have to go and threaten you with everything from Q Anon or whatever they want to say. Do you know what Q really means? Means question. That's what one of these people told me. And I said, well, that seems like a good thing. Anon question.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right?

[D]

Anans then go out and research it.

[Dave Anthony]

To see if it's true.

[D]

Because we've been fed their lies. Think about Monday, what happened? A Durham report was dropped. The FBI, the CIA, the whole. All of these guys are involved now. I know it's not all of them. The lower guys are probably just crying. But I'm asking you warriors to come out and tell the truth.

[Dave Anthony]

So.

[James Caviezel]

So Dave.

[Dave Anthony]

So he's not doing well.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The sound of disappointment. Obviously the best part is where he thinks question Q. Obviously it's question, question, question. It's quest. Go on, you on Q. Anon is short for question. On and on. Because you keep asking it. It's question, on and on.

[Dave Anthony]

He's like, you, you in those three clips, you see him being like, yeah, okay, you can't even say Adrian. And then he. And then he's getting angry and now he's just resigned to like, oh my God, it's all over.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How great would it be to devote, like a prank show to trying to sell Jim Caviezel Adrena chrome when he's at, like, Baja Fresh, just like, Punk'd, but with Adrenochrome. With Jim Caviezel is what he's sitting like. You need chrome. You need chrome. You looking for Adrenochrome. I just scared the shit out of this kid when I wore his face in a truck. This is pure, Jim. Drink this. Put it on your burrito. You look so young.

[Dave Anthony]

So that's where. That's where Jim Caviezel is today. I'm sure we'll do another episode on him, because this is gonna go fucking nuts.

[James Caviezel]

I just want to make sure everybody understands that I am a man of God that has very, very negative, scary music playing underneath me while I talk about the love of Jesus Christ. And I channel Jesus Christ. I was struck. When I was struck by lightning. That's when he entered me. And I know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But, Jim, you would agree that it's become a bit of a strange career, right? If God wanted this all for you.

[James Caviezel]

It really was a strange career. From the first time that I. I was plastered on the side of a Gap building. I knew that. I knew that that was a prophecy that was as good as another book of the Bible.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, but now you're on, like, YouTube.

[James Caviezel]

Jesus was. Jesus was. They didn't have.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jim, now you're on, like, in the.

[James Caviezel]

Roman times, they didn't have buildings.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't do that now.

[James Caviezel]

Jesus came back again, Jim. And when the lightning struck me, it was I. I know from my father's chiropractic work, that's where the Holy Spirit entered my spine.

[Gareth Reynolds]

People on the set of Passion of the Christ, and they said, you were just trying to see.

[James Caviezel]

I turned down the X Men because there was a higher calling. Not a mutant, but a God. I am a God.

[Dave Anthony]

Wait.

[James Caviezel]

And my name is Q.

[Dave Anthony]

Wait, you turned on X Men for frequency.

[James Caviezel]

You know. Well, I turned. They don't have radios in Islam, but stop it, Jim. I know the frequency. And let me tell you something. My father. My father in that movie was Dennis Quaid. My. My true father in heaven is Randy Quaid. Let me tell you that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Stop.

[James Caviezel]

Stop being afraid of the devil.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Be afraid of God.

[James Caviezel]

Then be afraid of your God.

[Dave Anthony]

Fear.

[James Caviezel]

Fear. Death, sorrows, blood. Follow Jesus, kill people.

[Dave Anthony]

Soros owns the Daily Beast.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was pathetic.

[James Caviezel]

Daily Beast. Hiding in plain sight.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Beast, beast, revelation.

[Dave Anthony]

Sources. QAnon Anonymous podcast with hosts Julian Feld, Travis View, and Jake Rockatanski. Holy priestsforlife.org wow. Scottish Daily Record and Sunday tvguy.com Crazy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sources, by the way.

[Dave Anthony]

North Carolina Register w Polit. That's a Pole. That's a Polish one. We don't need to pluralism.

[James Caviezel]

I actually agree with you on that. We don't need anything in the Polish stuff. No, Jim, it was organized. You know, he didn't like those extra diacritical marks over some of the letters that they've got.

[Dave Anthony]

Roll call.com majujiri WS Crisis magazine, shout.

[James Caviezel]

Out Magijeri Crisis Magazine. Crisis Magazine. I have it delivered and they have. There's a children's version that they all also send out. And it's called, it's called. It's called Problems for Babies. Crisis Magazine. Let's try. So I that's the first name I.

[Dave Anthony]

Trust in Crisis Christ is Tecton Ministries, Fox News.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're gonna ban tap Tac here.

[Dave Anthony]

Christian Post, Wall Street Journal, TV Line, Reddit, the Navy Seals subreddit.

[James Caviezel]

Don't forget the Wall Street Silver Bets Twitter guy, because I cite that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was so fucking.

[James Caviezel]

People say that's my own Twitter account that I cited myself. I have, among many other people, I have access to see the previews of what the posts will be. It's not, it's not. It's not a Twitter account that I run.

[Dave Anthony]

Vice.com MensHealth.com how to Get Jesus ABS NBC News, the Independent, UK Movies, Radio Free BustedHalo.com Holy the AV Club, the Huffington Post, CalCatholic.com Daily Mail Good Wired, Rolling Stone, Rumble and Screen Rant. And the book Blue Dixie Awakening the South's Democratic Majority by Bob Moser.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Holy.

[James Caviezel]

Legitimate, legitimate sources.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, it's all so crazy, but at the end there, it did strike me again like lightning during the filming of a movie about Jesus that he really does think God told them to become an actor.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And your calling, if your calling in life is to be an actor, it's real sad, like already to think that God would be like, just go, be act and you're going to do Persons of Interest for five seasons on cbs. My plan is wonky and bizarre. Enjoy the ride, Jimmy boy.

[James Caviezel]

You know what I noticed there wasn't any of your citations. There wasn't. Only the most popular book that's ever been written.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't say it.

[Dave Anthony]

The Stand by Stephen King.

[James Caviezel]

Satanic book. Of course. No, what I'm talking about. Of course, the Bible, the Word of God. You familiar with the Word of God?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sounds like he's got a lot of words to Be quite honest with you.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. It's like he never shuts up.

[James Caviezel]

It's funny that you would sit on the stage and blaspheme, knowing that it'll be held against you in the court of law, that is the heavens.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Dame's dad's a lawyer. He's already up there drunk. Legislating. We'll be fine.

[James Caviezel]

St. Peter. St. Peter is going to have guns pointed at you when you enter the Pearly gates. He's going to blow your head off, friend.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He won't be able to hold a dog either. All right, very quickly, first of all, James, thank you so much for joining us.

[James Caviezel]

Thank you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And I don't think it's any coincidence. Jim Caviezel. James, it's pretty obvious there's a connection there. There. And truly, the fact that we have done this show for 10 years is insane.

[Dave Anthony]

And we. There were only two mental health hospitalizations.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Dave and I, when this show started, really had very little going on in our careers.

[Dave Anthony]

I was on Marin.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Shut up. And. And then we met up at Dave.

[James Caviezel]

I don't know, it was like kind of a pity hire at that point. I had him on the staff and I was like, he didn't. He didn't. I don't know. None of the final scripts were his mark's here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And we met up at Dave's garage. And I didn't know what the fuck we were gonna do. And then very quickly, we started to do episodes of this, and very quickly we both were like, what the fuck is going on? And soon after, we started touring, we started feeling the love and we started feeling the connection. And I would be remiss if I did not say that both of us talk all the time about how much we value not only the support, but the connection to all the people who come to our shows, who listen to our shows, who may be common, who maybe don't. But it really has been one of those things that has changed everything. Not just careers, the way we view the world, the way we view people at balls. And we just thank everyone so much who. Everyone who joined the livestream, everyone who came out tonight, everyone who's ever come to a show, everyone who ever listens or tells anyone, everyone who threw a doll head on stage tonight and anyone and anyone in future throws a doll head on stage. Everyone who chanted, gary, it's actually Gareth, but for real, we thank you so much. And the fact that we did it for 10 years is amazing. And we're gonna do it for 10 more months, max, maximum. We Appreciate it, everybody. Thank you so much. Keep it going for James. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, everybody. Hey, Dollop fans. I know you love the dollop. You love listening to the dollop. Do you want to watch the dollop? You're like, gareth, what are you talking about? By the way, it's not Gary, it's Gareth. Well, we have partnered with Lakeside Animation and we are starting to animate some of our episodes. So if you want to go watch a five parter animation, which is actually like a 22 minute episode or 30 minute episode, I can't remember, of the rube, you can go to LakeSide Animation on YouTube and watch a really awesome animation of the rube. It. It really genuinely kicks ass and we're very proud of it. And the more you share it, the more you give it to people, the more you follow Lakeside, all that stuff, the better chance we have of making a lot more of them. We're already making a second one, so go there and watch the rube.