690 - The Baseball Fight - The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds

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Summary of The Dollop Episode 690 - "The Baseball Fight"

Podcast Information:

Title: The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Episode: 690 - The Baseball Fight
Release Date: July 1, 2025
Host/Authors: Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Description: Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds pick a subject from history and examine it.

1. Introduction to the Series

At approximately [04:22], Dave Anthony introduces the historical centerpiece of the episode: a tumultuous baseball series between the San Diego Padres and the Atlanta Braves that escalated into one of the most infamous brawls in sports history.

2. Unwritten Rules and Rising Tensions

Dave and Gareth delve into the concept of "unwritten rules" in baseball—a set of informal guidelines that govern player behavior on the field. Gareth humorously attempts to name these rules, highlighting their complexity and paradoxical nature ([05:25]).

Gareth Reynolds: "It's like, we're violating rules, but you've got to violate them with the rules about violating them." [35:34]

They discuss how these unwritten rules serve to police the game internally, preventing actions like intentionally hitting batters, which could lead to severe injuries or career-ending incidents.

3. The Spark: First Pitch Incident

On June 16, 1984, during a key game, the Padres' pitcher Ed Whitson hurled several brushback pitches at Braves' star hitter Claudell Washington, escalating tensions ([05:04] - [06:57]).

Dave Anthony: "Chin music is what it's called. So if you're not familiar with baseball, brush back pitch means you're throwing very close to the guy and making him jump back." [05:51]

Washington, frustrated by the persistent pitches, retaliates by throwing his bat toward Whitson, leading to violent exchanges and eventual suspensions ([07:17] - [08:48]).

4. Escalation and The Fight

The situation deteriorates as both teams' players, along with passionate fans, become embroiled in a chaotic altercation on the field ([26:39] - [49:35]). Key moments include:

[33:03]: Introduction of Craig Lerts, a Padres reliever who ultimately hits Washington, intensifying the conflict.
[38:39]: Bob Horner, a Braves player with a broken wrist, suits up to join the fight, exemplifying the all-consuming rage.
[44:12]: The involvement of fans, with one throwing a beer that incites further aggression ([64:29]).

Gareth Reynolds: "He just actually hit a guy. He's not a hot dog." [70:30]

5. Aftermath and Repercussions

The brawl results in multiple ejections from both teams and media coverage that labels the event as one of the worst in sports history ([73:21] - [75:03]). The episode highlights the long-term consequences for individuals involved, such as:

Goose Gossage – An all-time great reliever.
Donny Moore – Known for a crucial playoff home run before personal tragedies.
Eric Show – Revealed to struggle with severe personal issues.

6. Reflection on Baseball Culture

Dave and Gareth analyze how this fight reflects broader societal issues, including:

Militant Social Conservatism: The Padres' management and players were influenced by extreme anti-communist sentiments, tying sports to political ideologies ([11:24] - [16:48]).
Racism and Sexism: Incidents like a black female reporter being thrown out of the locker room underscore the pervasive discrimination of the era ([20:30] - [21:13]).
Erosion of Unwritten Rules: The episode posits that such volatile events have contributed to the decline of traditional baseball decorum and the rise of more theatrical, less disciplined interactions ([35:34] - [37:18]).

7. Conclusion

Despite the chaos, the immediate aftermath saw no further brawls in subsequent meetings between the teams, possibly due to media scrutiny and internal reconciliation efforts ([73:21] - [73:50]). Dave and Gareth conclude by pondering whether such wild incidents could ever be truly eradicated from sports, reflecting on the balance between passion and professionalism.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

Dave Anthony: "Chin music is what it's called." [05:51]
Gareth Reynolds: "It's like, we're violating rules, but you've got to violate them with the rules about violating them." [35:34]
Gareth Reynolds: "He just actually hit a guy. He's not a hot dog." [70:30]
Dave Anthony: "I think that is very, very bad. For that man." [57:58]
Dave Anthony: "It's like, you know, wrestling is. I, I personally think MLB has been wrestleized." [59:06]
Gareth Reynolds: "It's pretty reflective of society." [78:38]

Insights and Conclusions

Impact of Politics on Sports: The episode underscores how political ideologies can infiltrate and exacerbate tensions within sports teams, leading to conflicts that transcend the game itself.
Decline of Traditional Etiquette: The collapse of unwritten rules in baseball has paved the way for more explicit and often violent confrontations, mirroring societal shifts towards less restrained interpersonal interactions.
Cultural Reflections: The brawl serves as a microcosm for the era's social dynamics, highlighting issues of racism, sexism, and extreme political beliefs that were rampant in 1980s America.
Legacy of the Fight: Despite its immediate impact, the lack of subsequent brawls between the Padres and Braves suggests a possible lesson learned, albeit temporarily, about the dangers of letting sports rivalries devolve into violence.

Final Thoughts: "The Baseball Fight" episode of The Dollop offers a vivid exploration of a historical sports event that encapsulates the volatility of human emotions, the influence of external ideologies, and the fragile nature of tradition within beloved pastimes. Through humor and incisive commentary, Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds shed light on how a game can become a battleground for much larger societal conflicts.

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[00:00]
Dave Anthony
You're listening to the dollop on the all things Comedy Net. This. My voice did something weird. There was like.
[00:10]
Gareth Reynolds
It's all been a little strange so far.
[00:12]
Dave Anthony
Well, you're strange. Permission to treat. The coast is hostile.
[00:17]
Gareth Reynolds
You didn't even say that properly.
[00:19]
Dave Anthony
Permission. I'm stroking. It's American history podcast. Each week I read a story from American history to a threat Gareth Reynolds.
[00:33]
Gareth Reynolds
Who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Not a threat. We're buds.
[00:38]
Dave Anthony
Okay. So you see this new TV screen we have here?
[00:41]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[00:41]
Dave Anthony
You see the little. The little alert in the upper right.
[00:44]
Gareth Reynolds
Corner device added to your account?
[00:47]
Dave Anthony
That's gonna drive me insane.
[00:49]
Gareth Reynolds
This is my old monitor.
[00:52]
Dave Anthony
Oh, is it?
[00:53]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it was in my. Yeah, it's. I won't get into it, but Luke set it up. It just. It belongs here. We should point out if you're watching this, which means you're on Patreon. So go to Patreon if you want. Join our Patreon. But we got a new dollop sign in the studio that looks great. And that's from the Caddyshack, The. The fine people in Illinois, I believe, who rescue cats, and they're always looking for donations. You want to help them? They do a lot of good cat stuff. Bill Murray's a fan.
[01:30]
Dave Anthony
They rescue cats from loving families.
[01:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, they're. They're like the ice of cats.
[01:35]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[01:35]
Gareth Reynolds
So they are separating people.
[01:38]
Dave Anthony
That's right.
[01:39]
Gareth Reynolds
Who are loving and great and have humanity, and they are. They don't care. And they. If the cat is. If the cat is not like a tabby, they. They're scrutinizing. And then based on a series of odd things that they determine on site, they remove them and take them away. So. So that's the Caddyshack. They are always looking for donations. It's not what they do. They have cat fashion shows. They do cat proms. They're awesome. So. So thank you for the sign. They do a lot of nice stuff for us.
[02:16]
Dave Anthony
And. Yeah. Also, I'm working with a hamster organization.
[02:21]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Yeah, you're doing a lot of hamster stuff.
[02:24]
Dave Anthony
We're going on tour in October. We start on October 20th in Chicago at the Vic. And then we go to Cleveland on the 21st and Columbus on the 22nd and Indian, Indianapolis on the 23rd, and Madison on 26th and. And Milwaukee on the 27th and. Nope, that's wrong. Madison on the 26th, Milwaukee on the 27th, Minneapolis on the 28th, Kansas City on the 29th, and Denver on the 30th. And hopefully we can get a gig in there, too. Somewhere between the 23rd and the 26th.
[03:00]
Gareth Reynolds
Also, if you're in Milwaukee, where I'm from. What is with you people?
[03:04]
Dave Anthony
What's wrong with you?
[03:04]
Gareth Reynolds
Why do you never go to the shows?
[03:06]
Dave Anthony
Why do you never go to the shows?
[03:08]
Gareth Reynolds
It's like crazy.
[03:09]
Dave Anthony
It's crazy.
[03:10]
Gareth Reynolds
And it's not that you turn out. I went and saw Marin at Turner Hall.
[03:14]
Dave Anthony
I saw it. Yeah. Sold it out, man. Sold it out.
[03:17]
Gareth Reynolds
Sold it out. He's not from. He's great. He's obviously a legend. But why are you. Why do you hate me, hometown boy? I'm from there and nobody gives a shit. My buddy the other day, he was like. He was talking about how he in his hometown is like a little bit of a celebrity and he's like an actor and, you know, and he's done some stuff, but he was like you, when you go to Milwaukee, it must be crowd. I was like, nobody gives. Nobody cares. They don't care. They don't buy tickets, don't come.
[03:46]
Dave Anthony
At least it's not bothering you.
[03:48]
Gareth Reynolds
I'm fine with it. It's good. It would be hectic. I get to give away as many tickets as I want to those shows.
[04:01]
Dave Anthony
Awkward. August 12, 1984. That did something with my throat.
[04:11]
Gareth Reynolds
You got cliff throat. You did a cliff bar.
[04:13]
Dave Anthony
I did. I did a little bit of a cliff throat.
[04:15]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah. It's called the Cliffs Palate.
[04:19]
Dave Anthony
We don't need to do that.
[04:20]
Gareth Reynolds
We're rocking already. Show's good.
[04:23]
Dave Anthony
It's already started. The San Diego Padres baseball team were in Atlanta to take on the Atlanta Braves for a three game series. Now, Gareth, this was. It was a long, hot summer for both teams. Sure, Atlanta had future hall of Fame manager Joe Torrey in his third season in charge.
[04:48]
Gareth Reynolds
And if people don't know. Joe. Joe. Tory, just picture Paul Sorvino. Bargain bin.
[04:55]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, that's right. The Braves started slow, but they. But they turned it on. And on June 7th, they were in first place.
[05:04]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[05:05]
Dave Anthony
They had a 1.5 game lead over the San Diego Padres.
[05:09]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[05:09]
Dave Anthony
It's one and a half.
[05:10]
Gareth Reynolds
Yep. For those of you now, just to reset the stakes, what is the value of this series? This is to.
[05:16]
Dave Anthony
We'll get there.
[05:17]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[05:18]
Dave Anthony
So they immediately after getting into first place, lost five games in a row and dropped out of first.
[05:24]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[05:25]
Dave Anthony
Never recover for the rest of the season.
[05:27]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[05:29]
Dave Anthony
Now on June 16, they were four games out of first and they were playing the Cincinnati Reds and the Reds P. Pitcher threw several brush back pitches at the the Braves best hitter.
[05:41]
Gareth Reynolds
Chin music.
[05:42]
Dave Anthony
Claudell Washington.
[05:43]
Gareth Reynolds
Little chin music.
[05:44]
Dave Anthony
Chin music is what it's called. So if you're not familiar with baseball, brush back pitch means you're throwing very close to the guy and making him jump back.
[05:51]
Gareth Reynolds
It's called the face tune.
[05:53]
Dave Anthony
Nope.
[05:53]
Gareth Reynolds
It's called the crotch rocket.
[05:55]
Dave Anthony
It's not.
[05:56]
Gareth Reynolds
It's called belly backer.
[05:58]
Dave Anthony
No.
[05:58]
Gareth Reynolds
It's whatever gets the guy to move away from the plate a little bit. You're kind of claiming ownership. Yeah. So you're throwing the ball closer to the guy to sort of say, hey, back up my plate. Yeah, it's. It's a knee. Get back.
[06:13]
Dave Anthony
Like I was watching a baseball highlight.
[06:15]
Gareth Reynolds
It's a thigh by.
[06:16]
Dave Anthony
None of those are things. I was watching a baseball highlight the other day on Instagram because it's kind of the only place I watch Major League Baseball now is clips on there. And. And a guy threw inside and hit a player's hands and the player was like, what are you going to get you? That's the second time you've done that. And the pitcher was just like, get off my plate.
[06:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
[06:36]
Dave Anthony
Get off my home plate. Like.
[06:38]
Gareth Reynolds
Like a kid with vegetables.
[06:39]
Dave Anthony
A lot of pitchers are like, I own that. You don't get to lean over it or get too close.
[06:43]
Gareth Reynolds
Now whose side are you on in that feels like you're pro pitcher? Yeah.
[06:45]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. I'm the pitcher side.
[06:46]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. So you don't mind the pitcher throwing a little.
[06:49]
Dave Anthony
You don't get to lean.
[06:50]
Gareth Reynolds
He's making a handstand.
[06:51]
Dave Anthony
You don't get to lean over the plate.
[06:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. So throwing it at someone's hands, my favorite version of that is where they throw it at the hands.
[06:58]
Dave Anthony
I mean, you can really hurt someone.
[06:59]
Gareth Reynolds
Hitting someone with a baseball in the.
[07:01]
Dave Anthony
Hands, you could ruin their career.
[07:03]
Gareth Reynolds
That's. That's bad.
[07:04]
Dave Anthony
But also, don't stand there.
[07:06]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I don't know enough.
[07:08]
Dave Anthony
It's like standing on a highway and getting upset you got hit by a car.
[07:11]
Gareth Reynolds
I think that's totally different. One's valid. One's weird.
[07:13]
Dave Anthony
Well, that's.
[07:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Standing next to the home plate is weird.
[07:16]
Dave Anthony
That's how I make.
[07:17]
Gareth Reynolds
The amount of times I. Huh.
[07:18]
Dave Anthony
So I make my money.
[07:20]
Gareth Reynolds
You do it on what?
[07:21]
Dave Anthony
Standing out on the highway.
[07:23]
Gareth Reynolds
Huh. Right.
[07:26]
Dave Anthony
It's my job.
[07:27]
Gareth Reynolds
Have we. Have we. We've discussed how you could tell things are going good in this country by the fact that a lot more people are just straight up walking down the freeway. Right.
[07:34]
Dave Anthony
It's a good sign.
[07:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[07:37]
Dave Anthony
So the hitter, Claudia Washington, has had enough after however many brushback people pitches. And he throws his bat toward the pitcher.
[07:48]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Which is not that. That's another. That's your way of saying to the pitcher, back up, you stop.
[07:53]
Dave Anthony
You're not allowed to do that.
[07:55]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it's called the mound pound.
[07:58]
Dave Anthony
And the ump tries to hold Washington.
[08:00]
Gareth Reynolds
What if the ump throws his mask at the batter? You don't do that.
[08:03]
Dave Anthony
People keep throwing until the ump tries to hold back Washington. Washington literally throws the umpire to the ground because he's a very large man.
[08:11]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[08:11]
Dave Anthony
And then the pitcher punches Washington. Washington teammates come out and try to hold him down from going crazy. While they're doing that, the pitcher throws the baseball into the pack of Braves pitchers trying to hold down Washington.
[08:26]
Gareth Reynolds
I haven't seen a lot of that. I like that.
[08:29]
Dave Anthony
And hit a Braves coach. And then when they finally get everything calmed down, MLB suspends the pitcher for three games and what? And the hitter five. Because he threw the umpire. You're not. You're not allowed to throw umpires.
[08:46]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[08:47]
Dave Anthony
I don't think they cared as much about it as much as they did.
[08:49]
Gareth Reynolds
But you hurt the ump, you can't throw the umpire. Right? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
[08:54]
Dave Anthony
So the Braves, sometimes fights will like spark teams to win more. Not the Braves. The Braves kept plummeting and losing, and at the end of July, they're 8.5 games out of first, but still in second place.
[09:06]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[09:08]
Dave Anthony
And it just gets worse. The San Diego Padres are in first place, but they are having a crazy off field season. Okay, so Dick Williams is the Padres manager. He's really old school, tough, has a nasty tongue, like, says whatever you want. Like he's an old school dick.
[09:28]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[09:29]
Dave Anthony
The name is right, Right. He's a dickhead.
[09:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[09:32]
Dave Anthony
He's won a couple of World Series, so he's a good manager. The Padres are going for the title again. They sign really big names that offseason. They signed Steve Garvey. They said Goose Gossage. Yes, Goose Gotcha is your real name. And at this point he's one World Series. He's a big pitcher.
[09:48]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. The name though, is problematic.
[09:50]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[09:50]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[09:51]
Dave Anthony
I'm sure he got into a lot of fights being nicknamed Goose, but also it also sounds.
[09:57]
Gareth Reynolds
It really does sound like a duck sausage.
[09:58]
Dave Anthony
But okay, I'll give you that.
[10:02]
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you.
[10:02]
Dave Anthony
But gooses are mean. Is good.
[10:04]
Gareth Reynolds
Geese can be mean.
[10:05]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah. So they sign these big guys and then a couple days later the owner dies. So the team has his initials on their sleeve the whole year. The team is stacked. They have a lot of really good players. They have a very young Tony Gwynn, who is one of the best hitters ever. And they're pretty much just sailing through. So in July, three of their pitchers decide to start talking about the evils of communism to the press. And at this point, which is, well.
[10:36]
Gareth Reynolds
No, but that's just normal baseball normal. That's fine.
[10:40]
Dave Anthony
But at this point you don't really. It's not really a baseball thing. Like, people don't really push their political stuff out there. Like, it's really weird.
[10:48]
Gareth Reynolds
So it's 84. So we're Reagan. So he's definitely. We're right in the. We're right in the. The kind of. That for the ussr. Gorby Reagan.
[10:59]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[10:59]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[11:01]
Dave Anthony
So the pictures.
[11:01]
Gareth Reynolds
Not that we ever left the anti commie stuff in this country. It's definitely a lot of cycle.
[11:07]
Dave Anthony
A lot of people just saying that constantly, never stopping.
[11:10]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[11:11]
Dave Anthony
So the pictures were Eric Sho, Marc Thurman and Dave Dravecki, and they were basically introducing a lot of people in America to the ideas of the John Birch Society.
[11:24]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, God.
[11:25]
Dave Anthony
Which is a level of anti communism that should have won institutionalized, but is now the norm with Republicans.
[11:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, Right.
[11:37]
Dave Anthony
So the three pitchers at this point are giving Bircher interviews, going to Bircher events, and the LA Times prints this really long story with the pitchers quotes on July 8th. And the story just explodes across the country. Everyone's just like, what the fuck?
[11:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[11:53]
Dave Anthony
The headlines had were like, quote, three potteries admit ties to Birchers. So Birches are considered a bad thing. The pitchers believe the fate of the world is on the line pictures. That's correct.
[12:11]
Gareth Reynolds
You got to love, like, it's like people get mad at people in entertainment for giving like if you're a comedian and you're espousing your political views, it's like, well, there's sort of like you. Within your structure of appeal, there is something to your opinions having value.
[12:27]
Dave Anthony
You're talking about society.
[12:28]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. It's weird when it's like, I throw a football far.
[12:31]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[12:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Here's my theory on the gdp.
[12:35]
Dave Anthony
I throw football. By the way, I'm going to talk to you about vaccines now.
[12:39]
Gareth Reynolds
I'm really good at kicking the ball through two big polls. Here's why women should not be able to work.
[12:51]
Dave Anthony
So they're famous, right? So they are like, well, let's use our position to do what is called birching.
[12:58]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, me, I like to birch you. What?
[13:01]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Quote, if our Freedoms were taken away. Even just pictures. Quote. If our freedoms were taken away, even baseball would cease to exist.
[13:14]
Gareth Reynolds
That is unreal. Baseball's under attack.
[13:17]
Dave Anthony
Ain't no baseball in these places.
[13:19]
Gareth Reynolds
Like Cuba, way out.
[13:20]
Dave Anthony
I mean, honestly, a lot of baseball in Cuba.
[13:22]
Gareth Reynolds
So much. Oh, man.
[13:26]
Dave Anthony
Jesus Christ just shows the level of stupid.
[13:30]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Again, I mean, why are you for any political ideology? Why are you. Why would you, you know, value it? There are. There obviously are ones where you're like, you know, as time goes on, you're like, the fucking dude knew exactly what he was talking about. But there are some where you're just like, dude, shut up. It's always the dumbest or the loudest.
[13:51]
Dave Anthony
So they would go and sign baseballs at Berkshire booths to try to attract people. Javecki is a born again Christian. Quote, I think if Jesus Christ were in my shoes, he'd be one of the most aggressive pitchers around.
[14:06]
Gareth Reynolds
That is the only reason that's okay is because he's religious. You are not allowed to. Like, that is so fucking insane to think, let alone, like, what, bring him or make the call. He's in the bullpen.
[14:23]
Dave Anthony
Here's the thing about Jesus. Jesus owns the plate. There's no way Jesus would let a guy put his hands over the plate.
[14:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Trying to get an outside Jesus Christ on the mound.
[14:35]
Dave Anthony
Jesus owns the inside. Jesus owns the outside.
[14:37]
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, like the idea that he would even be like, full count Jesus been a little off tonight. Like, he's Jesus. I think Jesus would be a pretty good picture. I think he'd be amazing.
[14:49]
Dave Anthony
I mean. Yeah.
[14:50]
Gareth Reynolds
What.
[14:52]
Dave Anthony
When a reporter Jesus app this year.
[14:54]
Gareth Reynolds
He's having Tommy John's. Didn't know how breakable Jesus was.
[14:58]
Dave Anthony
She's gonna be out for a year and a half.
[15:00]
Gareth Reynolds
Jesus. Jesus. We have rumors that Jesus is retiring today.
[15:05]
Dave Anthony
Good Lord.
[15:06]
Gareth Reynolds
Great Lord.
[15:08]
Dave Anthony
When a reporter had been assigned to write a story on Eric's show, the first thing Eric did was give him a copy of Ann Rain the Fountain Head. A Rand. I mean, also off like your name is. It's. Well, as far as I'm concerned, it's an.
[15:24]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, well, I mean, there's really. Ein is so dumb. I mean, it's the worst. Yeah.
[15:30]
Dave Anthony
What are you doing?
[15:31]
Gareth Reynolds
How about have. Have a whole name?
[15:33]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. E. No, it's not a name. It's like. It's like you heard something and irand. So these three pitchers are now birchers and they gave an interview together. Show quote. And this. These are all from the LA Times article. Show quote. Capitalist natures, Capitalist nations. Would crumble and die from the inside, not the outside. Dave Trevek.
[15:59]
Gareth Reynolds
Good. That's way better.
[16:01]
Dave Anthony
No, from communism.
[16:02]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, sorry. No, but I mean, that's good.
[16:05]
Dave Anthony
No, but he's saying. He's saying it would crumble from the. It's a bad thing.
[16:09]
Gareth Reynolds
I understand he's saying that, but even when the way he's saying crumbling from the inside is great, well, that's what's happening. It's great. Yeah.
[16:16]
Dave Anthony
Juvecki, quote. Communism is not the in, not the end in itself. It's only a way to socialize the entire world. So special interest groups will be the master and we, we will be the slaves, if that is, we even live who. And I think it's gotta mean Christians.
[16:34]
Gareth Reynolds
Time has really proven him right. Thank God we avoided a life of communism because otherwise, you know, we would all feel like we were slaves while special interests just took over completely.
[16:48]
Dave Anthony
Thank God that didn't happen.
[16:49]
Gareth Reynolds
We stuck to capitalism and beat it. Yeah. Now everything's good. Hey, everyone, let's work for grubhub Thurman, quote.
[16:58]
Dave Anthony
Before, I was just one of those people ignorant of what really goes on.
[17:02]
Gareth Reynolds
Imagine.
[17:04]
Dave Anthony
So San Diego in 1984 was going through this militant social conservatism following Reagan, and local religious leaders were entering politics. The Reverend Dorman Owens and his followers would march through gay areas of San Diego holding signs that said, got AIDS yet? It's called converting people, Gareth.
[17:27]
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, look, it's obviously a pretty good outreach.
[17:31]
Dave Anthony
Got aids Yet a nearby city voted on banning X rated movies from cable tv. One flyer quote, what kind of man watches the Playboy Channel?
[17:41]
Gareth Reynolds
What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
[17:44]
Dave Anthony
I mean, what kind of man? I. I was a boy then, and I was just trying to get the little. The little slider thing just right.
[17:51]
Gareth Reynolds
So, dude, we were talking the other day about when Cinemax would do a weak preview.
[17:57]
Dave Anthony
If you had hbo, like Little Boy Masturbation Week.
[18:01]
Gareth Reynolds
It was. It was like the amount of VHS recordings I was doing, you would think that I was like, it. It was like I was preparing game film for a professional sports team. I was recording everything.
[18:13]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[18:14]
Gareth Reynolds
And then just putting on there like the Naked Gun. And then my mom would be like, why do you have three copies of the Naked Gun? I'd be like, don't look at any of them.
[18:21]
Dave Anthony
It's a different kind of Naked Gun. Yeah, and it's loaded.
[18:24]
Gareth Reynolds
But what's weirder, what's weirder? Watching the Playboy Channel or having an app with your son where you keep each Other accountable for watching porn and masturbating. You tell me which is weirder.
[18:34]
Dave Anthony
Playboy Channel.
[18:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I agree.
[18:38]
Dave Anthony
A flyer. Oh, I said that the Marines came to games in uniform and the stadium played the Marines him. After which they would yell, ooh, ra. So that kind of still happens there in San Diego. So a lot of players in uniform. I mean, a lot of Marines in uniform.
[18:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, well, that. But that's all the.
[18:53]
Dave Anthony
It's a big military town as.
[18:55]
Gareth Reynolds
As is sports in general now, the line blurring with being like, we're gonna have the Blue Angels fly over games, but.
[19:01]
Dave Anthony
But not. Not playing the Marine. Hammond.
[19:03]
Gareth Reynolds
No, no, the Marines is probably pretty specific. Yeah, my.
[19:06]
Dave Anthony
One of my relatives was and I should have talked to him about Cunningham, Duke Cunningham, but he was a instructor at Top Gun and like, he was the. Like he was like a really amazing pilot. And I really should have talked to him about Cunningham, but I didn't. But he died recently and the funeral they gave him was so fucking bullshit. Like, it was just like, this is how bad it was. At one point, a dude drives up, gets out of a Honda Civic, walks over, waits like three minutes, then gets a signal and does the bugle thing and then gets in his Honda and drives away. And you're talking about one of the fucking top. Like, they just don't care about the military guys. I mean they, they don't give a shit.
[19:55]
Gareth Reynolds
The whole. What's so bizarre about this time is that this, this like hollowed speech of support the troops and whatnot. It's like the proof is so obvious that when you gut the VA every chance you get. Who supports the troops? The people who are like, yeah, don't send them there because you don't support them or the people that get over there. You don't get health care.
[20:20]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. So it's. So the, the players are all surrounded by right wing stuff. Steve Garvey campaigned for Reagan. So it's a very right wing team.
[20:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[20:31]
Dave Anthony
The team also had a racism and sexism.
[20:33]
Gareth Reynolds
So funny that they have a Spanish name too.
[20:35]
Dave Anthony
I know.
[20:36]
Gareth Reynolds
America's the best. Go Padres.
[20:39]
Dave Anthony
The team also had a racism and sexism problem. Later that year, a black woman reporter was thrown out of the locker room by team employees. Six years later, a Tony Gwindol was found lynched in the Padres dugout. But for now, Eric show explained was at stake to the LA Times quote, democracy is only a transition to anarchy leading to totalitarian state. The only way to get out of this thing, short of revolution, is massive education, which I and My friends hope to provide.
[21:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God. So saying that democracy is a transition into that, like, how do you.
[21:21]
Dave Anthony
He's saying democracy is bad.
[21:23]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, right. That's what a lot of red flag.
[21:27]
Dave Anthony
Well, that's what they all think now. I mean, it's not any different.
[21:30]
Gareth Reynolds
It feels like now they do the thing where they're like saying it's democracy, but maybe less now.
[21:37]
Dave Anthony
A lot of them just are out now. Yeah, democracy is bad.
[21:41]
Gareth Reynolds
It's pretty cool.
[21:42]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's very cool. So. So that's. So that's like a. That's like a, A, A sort of classic religious lunatic victim mentality. Like, we are at siege. Right. So they have this siege mentality within.
[21:59]
Gareth Reynolds
The dugout just also. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[22:02]
Dave Anthony
So coming into the games on that weekend, the Braves are just the usual angry baseball team who were in first and now are really fucked. And the Padres are a shitstorm of bananas. One Braves bat boy who had been with the team for three years, and when I say bat boy, I mean He's a 17 year old.
[22:26]
Gareth Reynolds
He's Batman.
[22:27]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Bad Manish Batman. But having been there for three years, he's part of the team. He's looped into everything. He's with the same people 12 to 14 hours a day. So he has a sense of what's going on. And coming into the game, he felt like something was up. So they play the first two games, and in the third game of the series, the first pitch of the game is a fastball by Braves pitcher Pasquale Perez into the back of the Padres. Allen Wiggins.
[23:00]
Gareth Reynolds
Is he one of the three?
[23:02]
Dave Anthony
No.
[23:02]
Gareth Reynolds
No. Okay.
[23:03]
Dave Anthony
As Wiggins, the three won't come up again. This is trying to create the atmosphere. As Wiggins walked to first, he's pointing and yelling at the pitcher.
[23:12]
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
[23:13]
Dave Anthony
And his Padres teams come out onto the grass in front of the dugout.
[23:17]
Gareth Reynolds
That's for those you're not familiar that they're not happy. They're showing teeth.
[23:26]
Dave Anthony
Padres manager Dick Williams thinks the Braves are trying to intimidate his players with the hope that would lead to them crashing out and falling apart and going on a losing streak. The Braves would later just say it was an accident, he didn't mean to hit him.
[23:42]
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
[23:43]
Dave Anthony
Now, I think in today's game, they have a little more control with their pitches. They're better at throwing strikes.
[23:50]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[23:50]
Dave Anthony
So when a guy gets hit now, it seems more intentional than it did back then.
[23:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. But if you're a pitcher and you hit someone intentionally, is your role to sort of Own it. Or are you going like, I didn't mean to.
[24:01]
Dave Anthony
You could do either. Either. Yeah. Bad boy. Bat boy. Phillips is what I'll call him to this day, says nothing was up. Quote, I would have known something. I would have known something was going on. So he's like, it wasn't intentional.
[24:21]
Gareth Reynolds
That's pretty cool to be like a bat boy. To be like, I know what's up with my squad.
[24:24]
Dave Anthony
He would hear in the dugout, yeah. What was going on? Because when you're in one of those positions where you're not in the thing, but you're just outside of it and everyone's talking to you, you kind of know more almost than the guys in the thing. So now, back then, if you hit, if you hit a batter with the first pitch, one of your players is going to get hit, right?
[24:47]
Gareth Reynolds
A retaliatory strike, retaliation.
[24:50]
Dave Anthony
Sometime during the game right now, you.
[24:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Know someone's going to get hit.
[24:53]
Dave Anthony
Someone's going to get hit. So Padres manager Dick Williams, very old school, and so he was for sure, like, he got to throw out one of their guys. So absolutely, this is one of baseball's unwritten rules. So he told his pitcher to throw a press and hit him. So San Diego starter was Ed Whitson. Now, you may remember Ed from the Billy Martin episodes, because this season, the one we're talking about now is a year later, he would be playing for the Yankees, and Billy and Ed got into a fight in a bar with Billy, and Ed ended up with a broken rib and fractured hand.
[25:34]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, so maybe a little bit. He likes to play it loose.
[25:38]
Dave Anthony
Ed doesn't take shit.
[25:39]
Gareth Reynolds
He's open. Yeah, he's open. He's open for business.
[25:45]
Dave Anthony
So back to present game. So Ed throws a pitch at the Braves pitcher, who's now at Batman Perez, but it misses. Okay, it goes. It goes behind him.
[25:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, that's bad, too.
[25:56]
Dave Anthony
And President is a pretty tall, skinny dude. He doesn't. He doesn't like it, right? And he starts kind of scampering around behind the plate and he's holding his bat like you would when you're gonna hit somebody. Like, but, like, defensively, like, he's like, who's coming at me? Like, he's still wild. It's a little weird.
[26:14]
Gareth Reynolds
You're watching the game, you're like, these guys are. There's something's going on.
[26:20]
Dave Anthony
Then he starts backing towards the dugout. And then the Padres catcher jumps up and now he starts chasing him. So the Potter's catcher chases him to. Towards the dugout and then they're. The Braves players come out of their dugouts to stop the catcher, and then the Padres come out of their dugouts and they. And they both end up standing on. You see this in a tons of we're going to fight, but we're not going to fight moments. So they're on either side of home plate in a big bunch, both teams, and they're just kind of staring at each other.
[26:50]
Gareth Reynolds
It's like in a bar when, like two dudes are yelling and you're like. Then neither of them want to fight, but they neither wants to seem. We.
[26:56]
Dave Anthony
That's right. That's right. And so. But they get. They calm everybody down. They glare at each other for a while. It's diffused.
[27:05]
Gareth Reynolds
That is still wild for a guy to be running away and for a catcher to be like, you get up here and bath, you don't do that.
[27:13]
Dave Anthony
So the umpires then give Ed Witson and both managers warnings. So that means if anything else happens that we deem unacceptable, we get to just throw you out.
[27:23]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[27:25]
Dave Anthony
So they go back to playing and Prez strikes out. Okay, now the unwritten rules say. And there's a lot of fucking young people that just think the unwritten rules are dumb. I have a more complicated view of it. So it's unwritten rules. It's to police the game in itself. Because sometimes umpires do not police the game. Well, It's.
[27:48]
Gareth Reynolds
Are you talking about kind of gentlemanly rules? Sort of.
[27:50]
Dave Anthony
No, they're literally. No, they're not gentlemanly rules. They're the game polices itself. So certain doesn't happen like throwing at a guy. So if you throw it a guy to hit a guy, then the team is like, okay, well, now we're gonna do that because you don't want throwing at a guy to become commonplace.
[28:05]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[28:06]
Dave Anthony
So it.
[28:06]
Gareth Reynolds
It stops that eye for an eye.
[28:08]
Dave Anthony
On the other hand, you could destroy someone's career or seriously injure them. So it's kind of crazy.
[28:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
[28:14]
Dave Anthony
So I see both, like, I'm not. I'm not a guy that's like, that's so terrible. That's awesome. It's kind of a gray area in the middle. The game police itself. And I do think now the unwritten rules are sort of gone. I think someone will at some point get tragically hurt.
[28:29]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[28:30]
Dave Anthony
That's my belief. But we'll see. We'll see what happens.
[28:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Is this going to be one of these clips that in, like, you know, however long they're going to. Preston will edit this to show you saying this is going to happen, but.
[28:41]
Dave Anthony
It'S also as a tool of racists. So it was a great way to keep. For white, not that good players to keep people like Ricky Henderson, quote, unquote, in line. Right. So it's because the Cubans, the Dominicans, dudes from Oakland, had more flair and they had more, let's show it off and have a good time. So the white dudes who were boring and stiff, who probably listened to a Lawrence Welk would throw at them to try to. So it's. There's a lot of. There's a lot of bullshit.
[29:14]
Gareth Reynolds
I think you're sounding kind of negative on it, so. But people listening, like, we. We, like, we think we need the white police people to sort of keep the flair out of the game. It's important, since we can't do it. You know what I mean? It's like white people can't dance as well, so nobody should dance.
[29:30]
Dave Anthony
That's right. Yeah. But like I said, it's complicated. If you could take the racism out of it, it might be a better thing. You can't take the racism out of it. So it's very.
[29:40]
Gareth Reynolds
Which is what makes it the great American pastime.
[29:42]
Dave Anthony
But I do still think someone will get hurt. But whatever. Does that make it worth it? Probably not.
[29:49]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[29:50]
Dave Anthony
Anyway. But people are gonna get mad and act like I didn't just make a very sort of I'm all over the place on it argument, and they'll just go, you're so fucking old. Guaranteed.
[30:01]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, you are so old.
[30:05]
Dave Anthony
So the hit. They hit a guy got hit. Then they threw at a guy and missed him. But under the unwritten rules, it's.
[30:13]
Gareth Reynolds
They still owe him one.
[30:14]
Dave Anthony
No, it's over.
[30:14]
Gareth Reynolds
It's over.
[30:15]
Dave Anthony
You.
[30:15]
Gareth Reynolds
You let him know you tried to hit him.
[30:17]
Dave Anthony
You let him know with that pitch, we don't like what you did.
[30:21]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay?
[30:21]
Dave Anthony
And that's all you're supposed to do.
[30:23]
Gareth Reynolds
And he got. He didn't get a little. It wasn't a little chin music. He got a backtrack. It was behind him, and he moved forward.
[30:31]
Dave Anthony
So. So that should be the end of it.
[30:33]
Gareth Reynolds
That's it.
[30:33]
Dave Anthony
You made your point.
[30:34]
Gareth Reynolds
You had your chance.
[30:36]
Dave Anthony
Another ball boy said, quote, I specifically remember looking at Greg Booker, who was a pitcher for the. For the Padres, and I said, I can't believe that just happened. And he just looked at me and smiled. And that's when I thought, oh, something's getting ready to go down.
[30:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Just really, we're teasing a moment here.
[30:56]
Dave Anthony
So Two things later, Perez comes back up to hit, right? So the pitcher who threw the first ball coming back up to hit. And Ed Whitson is the pitcher, and he's crazy. Billy Martin guy, three inside pitches to Perez. None of them hit Perez because Prez is expecting it. And he keeps jumping out of the way.
[31:16]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[31:18]
Dave Anthony
But the umpire still throws Ed out of the game after he's like, that's it.
[31:21]
Gareth Reynolds
This is too much.
[31:23]
Dave Anthony
We gave you warning. You're not allowed to grudge. Yeah. And they let him get away with the. Yeah. So whatever. So manager and manager Dick Williams is out. So the manager and the player, okay? And the bad boy looks at that projects picture again. Quote, I go, are we over now? And he goes, nope, it's only just begun. It should be over.
[31:45]
Gareth Reynolds
It should have been way over. They've tried to hit Perez four times, right? So now you would be like, all right, look, he just dodged a bunch of them.
[31:52]
Dave Anthony
He got the point. He got the point.
[31:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Now a guy's. Now two guys have been thrown out.
[31:56]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[31:57]
Gareth Reynolds
From the Braves.
[31:58]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[31:59]
Gareth Reynolds
So now, right, from the Braves.
[32:00]
Dave Anthony
No, from the Padres.
[32:01]
Gareth Reynolds
From the p. That's right. So there two. So two guys have been thrown up from the Padres. Now you have to say, we're done. But they're this. So this is a predetermined.
[32:12]
Dave Anthony
This is past the unwritten rule. This is no longer the unwritten rules. This is revenge. Weird. It's not.
[32:17]
Gareth Reynolds
This is becoming lore.
[32:18]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. It's not part of the unwritten rules anymore. So the same pitcher whose name is Booker is then. So the guy who said that it's not. This is just starting. He's now put in the game to replace Ed, who just got thrown out.
[32:32]
Gareth Reynolds
So they really want to hurt him.
[32:35]
Dave Anthony
The next time Prez comes up, he gets walked, which kind of make the Braves are like, oh, it's over. They just walked the guy. And then he comes up again to hit in the sixth inning. And Booker's first pitch goes behind Perez again.
[32:51]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Another backtrack, but doesn't hit him again. So dude's dodging a lot.
[32:57]
Dave Anthony
Well, the putter's having a hard time hitting him.
[32:58]
Gareth Reynolds
He's a super bean pole.
[33:00]
Dave Anthony
He's a super skinny guy. Right. And he's athletic, so he's jumping out of the way.
[33:03]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[33:04]
Dave Anthony
But that's making the situation more tense. So.
[33:07]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, because every. It's like every time they throw and miss.
[33:10]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. It makes it worse. They're getting angry watching it. Well, because also they're not supposed to be doing It.
[33:16]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. It's like outside, he's dodging everything.
[33:18]
Dave Anthony
So Booker is thrown out of the game, as was the guy who took over as manager for the po.
[33:24]
Gareth Reynolds
The replacement manager, the original manager, the guy who was pitching before him, and the guy who's currently pitching all tossed.
[33:31]
Dave Anthony
An Atlanta bad boy said, quote, I think it felt like they were truly trying to hurt him. From where I sat in the on deck circle, that's what it felt like, right?
[33:41]
Gareth Reynolds
I think that's right.
[33:42]
Dave Anthony
Yes. They are trying to hurt him.
[33:43]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
[33:44]
Dave Anthony
So the tension increases each time they miss him. And the Braves also upset because the Potteries weren't following the unwritten rules.
[33:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. He must. So he's a pitcher, a starting pitcher. What do you usually get at a starting pitcher? 5, 6 innings?
[34:03]
Dave Anthony
No, back then. No, you get way more.
[34:05]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, so.
[34:06]
Dave Anthony
So, okay, back then, baseball was baseball. So you.
[34:08]
Gareth Reynolds
So he would maybe go eighth and eight innings.
[34:10]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. And then try to. Try to go eight. Yeah.
[34:12]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, so he's still in there.
[34:17]
Dave Anthony
So the. Another brace bat boy said, quote, usually you hit or throw at a position player, not a pitcher. So that's. The other thing is.
[34:26]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. Your revenge is being taken right out on the guy who hit him.
[34:30]
Dave Anthony
Because they didn't hit at the start of the game. They didn't hit a pitcher. They threw and hit a batter and a good batter. So then your thing would be like, hit it. So that's part of the way. The whole idea of it is you hit one of our good guys, we'll hit one of your better guys. And what you don't want is your better guy to break a rib and be out for a couple of weeks. So don't throw at anybody.
[34:51]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[34:52]
Dave Anthony
That's the idea behind it.
[34:53]
Gareth Reynolds
Right, right.
[34:55]
Dave Anthony
Which is crazy.
[34:56]
Gareth Reynolds
They're going right at the pitcher.
[34:57]
Dave Anthony
Yes.
[34:58]
Gareth Reynolds
The guy who hit the guy, they're going right at him.
[35:00]
Dave Anthony
And three times now.
[35:01]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
[35:03]
Dave Anthony
So two managers out, blah, blah, blah. So, quote, usually you hit or throw at a position player, not a pitcher. But because they were intentionally going after Prez, the Braves were mad. They're angry. And tensions were getting higher and higher as they could continue to throw at.
[35:21]
Gareth Reynolds
Prez, throw at the manager.
[35:22]
Dave Anthony
It would have been different if they'd thrown at or hit Claudel. They were saying, this is not something that you do.
[35:28]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
[35:29]
Dave Anthony
Right. So throw it, Washington. Because he's the biggest guy on the team.
[35:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[35:32]
Dave Anthony
Okay.
[35:33]
Gareth Reynolds
The unwritten rules are very funny.
[35:34]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, they are. Because there's. They're. They're unwritten, but they're very specific.
[35:38]
Gareth Reynolds
Like, we're violating rules, but you've got to violate them with the rules. Violate rules with the rules about violating them.
[35:47]
Dave Anthony
So most people watching the game, the broadcasters, the fans, and even some players thought it was over because he. Now they've thrown him three. They're like, yeah, that's done. They'd thrown him three bets. Now three bats. Now the message delivered. But then Perez comes up to bat in the eighth. A lot of teams at this point would have taken him out of the game.
[36:05]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. That's kind of what I was alluding to before.
[36:07]
Dave Anthony
That's the difference is, I think, is.
[36:09]
Gareth Reynolds
That because he's being tossed at so much, you'd be like, you don't want to.
[36:12]
Dave Anthony
You don't want him.
[36:12]
Gareth Reynolds
But they're kind of posturing being like, dude, you.
[36:15]
Dave Anthony
Now what would happen is they would take him out of the game and then they would throw at the other team, but they would just get him out of there because he's got a really good chance of getting hurt.
[36:23]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. Yeah.
[36:24]
Dave Anthony
So pad reliever Craig Lerts is now pitching. And he threw it Perez. And finally hits him. Oh, hits him in the side and the elbow.
[36:34]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, boy.
[36:35]
Dave Anthony
I love how lights are already going off.
[36:37]
Gareth Reynolds
Yep. Dropping.
[36:40]
Dave Anthony
And then all hell breaks loose.
[36:42]
Gareth Reynolds
Where do they hit him?
[36:43]
Dave Anthony
In the side, in the elbow, on the side.
[36:45]
Gareth Reynolds
Oof.
[36:47]
Dave Anthony
The Braves charge out of their dugout trying to get at Lefferts.
[36:50]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[36:51]
Dave Anthony
And the Padres run out of their dugout, and guys are now punching each other and tackling each other.
[36:58]
Gareth Reynolds
They have to have a real extra level of energy after wanting to hit Perez and. And the other side getting upset that they're trying to hit Perez. They're sitting in there sort of bub. Getting ready for it.
[37:12]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's. It's. It's literally hours of. Of just. There's a building up. Rage.
[37:17]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. And it is funny that the light went out.
[37:21]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's perfect.
[37:22]
Gareth Reynolds
It's a Luke project.
[37:25]
Dave Anthony
So the fight goes on for about a minute, and then it starts to slow down, and then there's like, two separate piles of dudes.
[37:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
[37:32]
Dave Anthony
As they try to get and hurt guys at the bottom. So they have, like, a main target. So, like, all the Braves want to get Lerts and the other guys want to get this guy. So they each are after a guy, but it seems to stop. And then the Padres backup first baseman Champ Summers, who's six to 205 pounds, breaks away from the Braves Bob Watson, who's holding him and runs toward the Atlanta dugout because he wants to get a piece of Prez, who is now being held in there and guarded by other players.
[38:04]
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
[38:06]
Dave Anthony
And Braves player Bob Horner, who is not playing because he has a broken wrist and who had been in street clothes at the beginning of the game up in the press box watching the game, is now in uniform because when the tension started and the. And the almost fight started, he has the tension mounted. He came down to the clubhouse and he put on his uniform purely to fight. Purely to fight.
[38:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God. That's awesome. Now what do you think about. I actually gotta get out of here. What do you mean? I gotta go suit up. Your wrist is broken. Yeah. I might need to use the other hand for some stuff down there.
[38:47]
Dave Anthony
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[38:55]
Gareth Reynolds
I feel good about the Cash app. People are moving to Cash App, as they should be.
[39:00]
Dave Anthony
Do you? Yeah, they, they. They really are. I find Cash App to be the easiest and best one to use. Yep. I. I did have a problem when trying to send money through a couple other apps that won't be named, and it was problematic and it was hard.
[39:15]
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
[39:16]
Dave Anthony
And. And then I pulled up Cash app and it was like bink and over.
[39:20]
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
[39:20]
Dave Anthony
It was easy to do.
[39:21]
Gareth Reynolds
That's what I like about it.
[39:23]
Dave Anthony
And then some people have to wait for days for the money to show up. You get hit with big fees to move your own money, which is like insane. Or you might send to the wrong person. You got no way to get it back.
[39:34]
Gareth Reynolds
That's one thing that I find crazy.
[39:36]
Dave Anthony
Isn't that crazy?
[39:37]
Gareth Reynolds
Crazy.
[39:38]
Dave Anthony
Not a problem with Cash App. Maybe you try to get cash out and then there's like a processing delay and there's no explanation. They're just like, no. What? That's not. That's not what's happening to Cash App. It's fast, it's easy, and it's safe. It's a great way to send and receive and transfer money to friends and family, even to yourself. Super easy setup. Yeah, super easy setup.
[40:00]
Gareth Reynolds
Quick.
[40:01]
Dave Anthony
You just put your phone number in, some basic information. No bank account needed. You just put your info in. You don't have to wait. Money shows up right away. Don't wait for days. Although sometimes I like to make you wait for days. So I might use other apps just for you.
[40:18]
Gareth Reynolds
Cool. Good stuff. Way to weaponize the ad. That's cool. Glad you're doing that.
[40:23]
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
I wish that that wasn't true, but you found a way to make even that strange.
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Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
And we. And we've come up with our own catch phrase for it, which is. It's called Cash App, not Catch app.
[41:26]
Dave Anthony
How do you feel about that?
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Gareth Reynolds
Good. They're texting me right now. They're saying. They're saying the numbers for that ad were high.
[41:32]
Dave Anthony
High.
[41:33]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, people are digging it a lot.
[41:35]
Dave Anthony
Okay.
[41:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Apparently, it's trending on.
[41:37]
Dave Anthony
You know what trending means?
[41:39]
Gareth Reynolds
Mm.
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Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
I miss those days for you.
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Gareth Reynolds
That's the other thing. I've had my Helix for a good amount of time and still love it. I had a friend come to town, slept on the Helix.
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I put a hammock in between Two Palms, also by Helix.
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So, yeah, they do the. They do the two Palm. Just ask for the Two Palms option. Yeah.
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You take the quiz if it suggests that you should be sleeping like the Jungle Book. Just go.
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[43:57]
Gareth Reynolds
So this guy's ready.
[43:58]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. So now Bob Horner and Champ Summers start fighting. Not only are they two really big hitters and big guys, but it might be the biggest fight between two guys with the most baseball names ever.
[44:10]
Gareth Reynolds
Really?
[44:11]
Dave Anthony
Champ Summers and Bob Horner.
[44:13]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Right, Right. Okay. Right, right.
[44:14]
Dave Anthony
They are fighting between the dugout and the on deck circle. And that's when some fans decide they should be involved.
[44:21]
Gareth Reynolds
That's. That's where it's. You got. I mean, like, it's obvious. Look, you want to get involved, Let it play out. This is not where you belong. It's like at live shows when people are shouting out jokes.
[44:34]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[44:34]
Gareth Reynolds
It's like, enough.
[44:36]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, thanks. One guy threw a beard. Summers. Another jumps in and tries to grab Summers from behind. And then another jumps into the fight. And the three of them take chump to the champ. To the ground.
[44:48]
Gareth Reynolds
But all right, let's just talk about. Shouldn't do it. But how great is it when you and two dudes from the stands take down an MLB player? Beating him, you're like, this is beyond fantasy camp. It's unbelievable. I'm beating a baseball player up. I'm a diamond.
[45:07]
Dave Anthony
So this is all really unusual, maybe unprecedented. Like, this is crazy. And it's. And it's happening from a few feet away from the bat boys, who are just bat boys.
[45:17]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[45:17]
Dave Anthony
They don't know what to do. The bad boys saw fans getting involved, but their job is to keep track of equipment. So they are literally focused on what's happening with the equipment while the fight's happening.
[45:28]
Gareth Reynolds
In the sense that they're like, guys, take your gloves off.
[45:31]
Dave Anthony
Well, no. Well, like, if. If there's a game on and a bat, a guy hits and the bat goes down, you gotta run out and grab the bat. So nothing happens to the bat.
[45:40]
Gareth Reynolds
But isn't that. Don't you abandon your role during a brawl.
[45:43]
Dave Anthony
No, you gotta. That's more.
[45:44]
Gareth Reynolds
During a brawl, you're still just like. More so, guys, toss your mout guards.
[45:48]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, well, yeah, get your. Get your. Your leg guard cleats.
[45:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Are these.
[45:55]
Dave Anthony
Quote, it was a challenge for us to try to stay out of the way of what was going on. When we had to pick up the stuff and move out of the way, that's when I felt anxiety because it was coming right at us.
[46:05]
Gareth Reynolds
So they're trying to grab stabbing equipment that's getting like, beaten off.
[46:08]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[46:12]
Gareth Reynolds
Good God. So, guys, hold on.
[46:17]
Dave Anthony
It's not like one constant.
[46:19]
Gareth Reynolds
Who's cop.
[46:21]
Dave Anthony
It's not like one constant battle. So if you've ever. People who have seen baseball fights.
[46:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it's different. Separate piles.
[46:27]
Dave Anthony
It's their piles. It. It starts and it stops. It looks like it's calmed and then all of a sudden one guy throws a punch and then it's not. And then everything kicks off again. So it's just like.
[46:36]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I think part of the thing too, isn't it? The fighting is exhausting.
[46:40]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[46:41]
Gareth Reynolds
Like you. I don't think you really. In your head, you're like, let's go. But it's like literally a minute is like, that was a long. That's a long time.
[46:51]
Dave Anthony
Quote. It seemed to go on forever. I do remember being frightened at one time. I don't know if we were going to get sucked into it. So the bat boys are worried that they're going to get. Have to be.
[47:00]
Gareth Reynolds
I would 100 get involved as a bat boy. That's where you become a Batman. It's a bat mitzvah.
[47:08]
Dave Anthony
What do you want me to do with that?
[47:11]
Gareth Reynolds
I just think it's pretty good. I really. I will defend it. I think it went pretty good.
[47:19]
Dave Anthony
The Padres second baseman, Tim Flannery is fighting the Braves, Gerald Perry, because he. Perry had attacked Lefferts. The Padres bat boys come over to be with the Braves bat boys.
[47:33]
Gareth Reynolds
That's cute.
[47:34]
Dave Anthony
That is cute.
[47:35]
Gareth Reynolds
Have you ever had that? I've had that where I've had a friend of mine fighting and the two guys fighting wanted to fight, but me and the other friend didn't want our friends to fight. So me and the other friend very quickly were like, we're good. I wish they weren't doing it too. Like, let's try to remain as impartial through this event as possible. I've had both. I've had the one where you're like, you fuck you too. Or the One where you're like, let's go over here. Yeah.
[48:06]
Dave Anthony
Quote, we were joking. We said, are we supposed to fight with each other? In reality, none of the bad boys wanted to have anything to do with it. They were worried that because they were in uniforms, they would be mistaken for a player and have to fight. So their uniforms look almost the exact same.
[48:21]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, yeah, yeah.
[48:23]
Dave Anthony
But a Braves bad boy sees a bat in the middle of the field on the grass. This is Phil.
[48:30]
Gareth Reynolds
Protocol suggests that I go over there and grab it.
[48:33]
Dave Anthony
His bat boy instincts kick in.
[48:34]
Gareth Reynolds
I gotta get over there. I'll cover you.
[48:37]
Dave Anthony
He runs for it.
[48:38]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh.
[48:39]
Dave Anthony
Picks it up, starts running back to the dugout. And now in the middle of. Grown men fight him, punching and tackling and body slamming each other. Quote, I pick up the bat, I turn around and I get nailed.
[48:53]
Gareth Reynolds
I love it.
[48:54]
Dave Anthony
And it was Alan Wiggins nailed me. So the guy got hit at the beginning.
[48:58]
Gareth Reynolds
He's just like, you're a small man.
[49:00]
Dave Anthony
He just takes out a bad boy.
[49:01]
Gareth Reynolds
Does he know it's a bad boy?
[49:03]
Dave Anthony
I don't know. Probably not.
[49:04]
Gareth Reynolds
I would say. I would hope not. Yeah, because it's sort of like they're the press. They're like wearing the like, press outfit in war. So don't shoot them. But if I just. It's also either works for me, honestly, just to be like, when am I going to get a chance to punch a child again? Or you're just like that. That looks like one of the guys.
[49:24]
Dave Anthony
Quote, a couple of guys pick me up, walk me into the dugout. I remember Joe Tory looking at the security guard and says, don't let these guys out of the dugout. Which I wasn't gonna go. I wasn't gonna go anywhere anyway.
[49:35]
Gareth Reynolds
They had the bat boys. Yeah, yeah. We're not trying to like, I learned.
[49:39]
Dave Anthony
My lesson getting that bad, but who's.
[49:40]
Gareth Reynolds
Gonna grab that shoe?
[49:43]
Dave Anthony
But while they are just bat boys, they're considered part of the team.
[49:47]
Gareth Reynolds
The family unwritten rules here.
[49:50]
Dave Anthony
So that. Well, they are. They're like, they're travel them and they're with them all the time. They're joking around.
[49:55]
Gareth Reynolds
Any players have to share a room with the bat boy? No, the bat boys travel with the teams.
[50:00]
Dave Anthony
I think some did.
[50:02]
Gareth Reynolds
You can't just be like, we hire local.
[50:04]
Dave Anthony
No. Well, yeah. I mean, back in the day, these two, they don't.
[50:06]
Gareth Reynolds
I can't believe I'm sharing a room with a grown athlete.
[50:09]
Dave Anthony
They don't go to bed, they don't travel.
[50:11]
Gareth Reynolds
Now, what do you want to Talk about. Do you like constellations?
[50:15]
Dave Anthony
What the. I'm dumb as a 17 year old.
[50:19]
Gareth Reynolds
I care. It's been a while or I guess. Yeah. It would be different. He'd be like, what's. Like.
[50:26]
Dave Anthony
So. So the players feel protective of and have the backs of the bad boys.
[50:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
[50:32]
Dave Anthony
So brave Claudell Washington looks at a bad boy who got clocked and tells him he'll take care of it. Quote and he did. I'm not going to go on record to how he did that. So. Claudette Washington, do we know? We don't know.
[50:49]
Gareth Reynolds
But he probably went out there and hurt Wiggins or whatever.
[50:52]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah, he went out there and.
[50:53]
Gareth Reynolds
Worked with a finger in his butt or something.
[50:55]
Dave Anthony
Well, that's really not what I was thinking.
[50:58]
Gareth Reynolds
It's disarming. In a fight. In a fight, if a guy's head is taken.
[51:02]
Dave Anthony
Huh. Go for the butt.
[51:04]
Gareth Reynolds
Don't be afraid to toss a digit in the back.
[51:06]
Dave Anthony
I feel like you shouldn't be giving fight advice. And then.
[51:08]
Gareth Reynolds
And then. And then hook it.
[51:10]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, you should definitely not be giving.
[51:11]
Gareth Reynolds
What you do is you put it in the butt, you hook it and you drag.
[51:13]
Dave Anthony
Are you trying to. Okay.
[51:16]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[51:16]
Dave Anthony
Let's just not talk about that.
[51:17]
Gareth Reynolds
You tell me he's gonna. He's not gonna take note.
[51:21]
Dave Anthony
I don't know. I. I don't want to know. I don't want to have.
[51:24]
Gareth Reynolds
It's a bum cushion. Get back there.
[51:27]
Dave Anthony
It could have easily been a mistake in a case of mistaken identity with Pottery's Allen Wiggins not realizing he was taking a bat boy. But it didn't matter. They had justice had to happen.
[51:36]
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
[51:37]
Dave Anthony
It doesn't matter.
[51:37]
Gareth Reynolds
Agreed.
[51:38]
Dave Anthony
Now, most bad boys have said are in their late teens, but there's also M. Mike Borzello, who is Joe Tori's godson.
[51:46]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[51:47]
Dave Anthony
Who's now a coach with the Cubs. I think he was 13 and see.
[51:51]
Gareth Reynolds
The constellation thing plays.
[51:54]
Dave Anthony
He was.
[51:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Hey.
[51:55]
Dave Anthony
He was 13 and in uniform as an honorary bat boy that day. See, he was clearly smaller than the other bat boys. And Taurus told bat boy Cliff Phillips that he had to keep an eye on Mike for the day. That was before all this started.
[52:13]
Gareth Reynolds
That's hilarious. On that day to be like, he's going to be here today, so just keep an eye on him. Which means dead.
[52:20]
Dave Anthony
It makes the entire situation far more stressful. So Phillips is just more stressed than ever.
[52:24]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[52:25]
Dave Anthony
Quote I'm not sure how Michael got knocked down, but I remember I got back to the dugout and his uniform is completely muddy.
[52:32]
Gareth Reynolds
Wait Was he the one who. He's not the one who got knocked. Okay, Right, right. But he comes back and he's, he's just.
[52:38]
Dave Anthony
But that makes the fight worse because the players are like, who the fuck?
[52:41]
Gareth Reynolds
The bad boys are being beaten up.
[52:42]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Dirty bad boy uniforms are not the norm. But bad boys don't get dirty. Right, so.
[52:48]
Gareth Reynolds
And that was your first rap album.
[52:51]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[52:51]
Gareth Reynolds
That boys don't get.
[52:52]
Dave Anthony
Okay. Yeah. Everybody knows that.
[52:54]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. It was a train wreck.
[52:57]
Dave Anthony
Phillips is thinking, why is he so dirty? Because you're never dirty. You don't get that uniform dirty. The only reason you get the uniform dirty is if you're on the ground. I remember both of them are the dirty. And I was like, like, what the heck? No one knows what happened to Mike or how he got dirty. I, I got it.
[53:10]
Gareth Reynolds
I don't watch baseball, but everything that sort of takes place outside of it is better than the game to me.
[53:17]
Dave Anthony
Yes.
[53:17]
Gareth Reynolds
Like, like everyone's drunk or taking drugs or the swapping wise.
[53:23]
Dave Anthony
It used to be like that. It's much more now.
[53:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Like back in the day. Like I would not watch it, but the. Like, I would watch a show about baseball.
[53:31]
Dave Anthony
It's one of the reasons I find baseball so boring is because it's been so sanitized. All these guys go through media and all this other. Right before they get there. So they're all just give us the psychos.
[53:41]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we deserve them.
[53:42]
Dave Anthony
The lunatics are what makes it fun.
[53:44]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[53:47]
Dave Anthony
So I can't, I can't help but.
[53:50]
Gareth Reynolds
Think that this will stop communism.
[53:54]
Dave Anthony
So what has happened is one of the craziest, ugly things to happen on a baseball diamond. It's really crazy. It took 12 minutes to settle things down and restart the game. And when they did, six more players were ejected and several fans were arrested. And then came the ninth inning.
[54:12]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, shit.
[54:13]
Dave Anthony
Before they start, they have to announce over the loudspeakers the players that were kicked out. And they. To do that, they had to figure out who they'd kicked out. So it takes a little bit of time before they restart.
[54:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[54:25]
Dave Anthony
Then the game gets started and the new Braves pitcher is Donny Moore and he's facing Padres hitter Craig Nettles again. These are two. Well, Nettles is like a giant of the game. Moore's known for something else, but more, it turns out. And Nettles had fought each other on the field in the last inning.
[54:45]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[54:47]
Dave Anthony
So no one was going to be shocked if. More through Nettles. And just before the inning start.
[54:51]
Gareth Reynolds
Let it Go.
[54:52]
Dave Anthony
Just before the inning starter, the Braves manager, Joe Tory tells Moore not to pitch inside. He's like, do not throw at this guy.
[54:59]
Gareth Reynolds
Get. Let's get out of here.
[55:01]
Dave Anthony
We made the point. The point is over. Do not stop.
[55:04]
Gareth Reynolds
9Th inning. Start the car, bat boy.
[55:08]
Dave Anthony
Phillips quote. Knowing Donny Moore the way I knew him, there was zero doubt that it was going to happen. I think everybody was ready.
[55:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, why did he put him in then?
[55:15]
Dave Anthony
That is true. That is a really good point. Because first of all, they are going. No, they.
[55:20]
Gareth Reynolds
Who's winning?
[55:22]
Dave Anthony
Well, they're winning. The Braves are winning.
[55:24]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, so he is trying to just competitively close this up.
[55:26]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. And Moore's a really good pitcher, so maybe that's why. But also, you're right. If he was fighting with Nettles on the field, why are you going to.
[55:34]
Gareth Reynolds
Have him go up there, put one guy in for that one and then bring in more?
[55:37]
Dave Anthony
After on the second pitch, more hits Nettles in the ass. Nettles runs out to attack Moore and the fight starts all over again.
[55:50]
Gareth Reynolds
If I either dug out, I'd be like, ah, fine.
[55:55]
Dave Anthony
Nettles is spun around by more and then he's tackled by Chris Chambliss. Then it calms down for a second and then absolutely furious with rage. Chris Nettles. No, sorry. Kurt Bavaca.
[56:11]
Gareth Reynolds
Kurt Pavakwa. That sounds like a cologne.
[56:13]
Dave Anthony
I. I remember Kurt Pavaka. I remember him for two reasons. One being what I'm about to play. But two, because the name Bavaqua, you could just never forget the name Must.
[56:26]
Gareth Reynolds
And dirt mixed together. Sometimes my glove will stink, but it smells good to me because it's from my sweat.
[56:38]
Dave Anthony
Because he's not like a really talented player. He's okay, but he's. He's known because of his name. Just like Buddy Bianca Lana, a fragrance by mlb. Do you remember Buddy Bianca Lana? No. The only reason you would know it is because Dave Letterman got obsessed with his name when he was in a World Series.
[57:01]
Gareth Reynolds
No.
[57:01]
Dave Anthony
And eventually had him on. And even though he was just like a nobody player.
[57:05]
Gareth Reynolds
That's great.
[57:08]
Dave Anthony
So Bavakwa runs out onto the field. So. So it's kind of calmed down, right?
[57:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Everyone's.
[57:14]
Dave Anthony
And then all of a sudden, here comes Buddy. Buddy. Sorry, Kurt Bavaqua. And he is just running out. He's throwing punches at everybody now. Bavak was not a big fan of being hit by pitchers two years before when a Dodgers pitcher had thrown at and hit a Padre and then got fined for it. Bavaqua said about the Dodgers manager, Tommy Lasorda, quote, the guy they should have fined was the guy who ordered him to throw at Joe, that fat little Italian man.
[57:48]
Gareth Reynolds
But this, this is sports mafia. It's like he took a hit out on him. La sword is at the top.
[57:58]
Dave Anthony
So the sword is the fat little Italian man.
[58:00]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
[58:00]
Dave Anthony
And this is what Lasorda responds with. Tell you what I think about it. I think that is very, very bad. For that man. To make an accident accusation like that, that is terrible. I have never, ever since I've managed, ever told a pitcher to throw at anybody, nor will I ever. And if I ever did, I certainly wouldn't make him throw at a 130 hitter like Le Fay or Bavakwa who could hit water if he fell out of a boat. And I guarantee you this, when I pitched, and I was going to pitch against a team that had guys on it like Papa, I sent a limousine to get the. To make sure he was in the lineup because I kicked that ass any day of the week. He's a big mouth, I'll tell you that.
[59:03]
Gareth Reynolds
Was that recorded on a blimp?
[59:05]
Dave Anthony
That's just what it was like back then, man.
[59:07]
Gareth Reynolds
Dude, that is. I mean that is that, that. See, that's what I mean. Like that. That is so much more interesting than strike one.
[59:19]
Dave Anthony
No, that's not interesting.
[59:21]
Gareth Reynolds
Whoa, that was great.
[59:22]
Dave Anthony
No, it. Because it's. Because you know what it is? Look.
[59:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, it's a. Vakua couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat is dynamite.
[59:30]
Dave Anthony
It's. It's so funny because, you know, wrestling is. I, I personally think MLB has been wrestleized is whatever you want to call it because it's now all sort of fakeish stuff. It's like, it's like they think up what they're going to do three days ahead of time.
[59:50]
Gareth Reynolds
Who does?
[59:51]
Dave Anthony
You mean the players?
[59:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Like, you know, the thing is that you're not to cut you off, but you're probably hinting at the point of like, social media is an independent game and so people do things independ for their social media wins. Whereas you used to almost be like. It used to be like retaliation.
[60:10]
Dave Anthony
It was organic. It was in the moment. It was. But now you have got like a guy, like a, A guy won't like that. Someone, I think it was a pitcher said he could throw with one eye and get a player out and then the player hit a home run and the players run out of the bases doing this right with his finger on one eye. And it's just like, okay, man. Like, hey, cool. Like, you thought up something three days ago.
[60:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[60:31]
Dave Anthony
It's just very, like, obvious and sort of stupid and. But there's also nothing really to it. Like, it doesn't really. It seems like you don't care that much. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, they still do care, but it's. It's just. There's just this level of, like, surfacey showman stuff that's to me, really dumb as opposed to, like, organic. And I think that's what turns me off from it.
[60:55]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, there's. There's so much sanity. I mean, obviously, look, he's tossing around a lot out there.
[61:00]
Dave Anthony
There's a lot of that.
[61:02]
Gareth Reynolds
But. But there is this, like, the Sanit nature of stuff now. That's what's so funny about watching, like, the Disney vacation of ESPN and stuff like that, where it's like, there's just not enough stuff to sift through to make a week out of. Just highlights.
[61:17]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[61:17]
Gareth Reynolds
So you do need some interesting off the field. And, like, there really isn't that much anymore.
[61:24]
Dave Anthony
It's like there's.
[61:25]
Gareth Reynolds
There's some.
[61:26]
Dave Anthony
But, like, right now there's a super sports lull because NBA has ended, hockey has ended, most soccer has ended. And they're trying to force new soccer in college. Baseball has ended. And this is when there really shouldn't. This is a black hole. But they're trying to fill space.
[61:42]
Gareth Reynolds
They have to.
[61:43]
Dave Anthony
And it's just.
[61:43]
Gareth Reynolds
That's where it becomes soap opera. Yeah, that's really like, if you. You. I mean, watching ESPN in the morning is. I have not done it in. God knows. You can't do it. Yeah, it's all it is is just like, you know, it's literally insufferable to watch Mike Greenberg host any show now because he's like, why don't you throw which helmet you think is gonna finish first in the division at that wall and see if it'll stick with the Velcro wall? Cause we're talking about the Velcro wall. You're like, what?
[62:18]
Dave Anthony
Well, that's when you can tell that they've. They were trying to spruce it up and they brought in. They brought in producers from Totally Dr. Phil and all those other things, because That's a super Dr. Phil.
[62:32]
Gareth Reynolds
It's the same with any news too. When you want, like, it's. He made. It's just the dumbest shit where it's just like, here's an event. You two debate what you think it's like, this is not. What. This is not anything. This is two people just trying to have an argument. Which is arguing was at one point entertaining.
[62:53]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[62:53]
Gareth Reynolds
You can't make an argument about everything.
[62:56]
Dave Anthony
Right.
[62:56]
Gareth Reynolds
It's the same when you watch like social media clips of people being like, wait, what? Like, you're not gonna be able to wait. What? You're. It's. At some point, it's not gonna work anymore. Yeah, I don't know when we're gonna hit that wall, but at some point you're not gonna be able to be like, Like, I know you all over crowd work and crowd work. But if I'm like, I will wait for like an actual thing that's interesting to happen. You watch it, it's just like, you will wear sneakers and you're just like, huh, What? Yeah, it's a normal thing YouTube been getting for five years.
[63:33]
Dave Anthony
Okay, so, so again, bodies tackling, throwing, chasing, hitting. The players who had been ejected now run back out.
[63:49]
Gareth Reynolds
That's not allowed.
[63:50]
Dave Anthony
That's super.
[63:51]
Gareth Reynolds
You're an Arkham.
[63:52]
Dave Anthony
They get order restored briefly, but then.
[63:55]
Gareth Reynolds
You are re ejected.
[63:57]
Dave Anthony
But then Goose Gossage comes out and attacks more and the whole fight kicks off again. Now Padres Tim Flannery gets sucker punched by Perry. Remember they've been fighting earlier?
[64:07]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[64:09]
Dave Anthony
It doesn't go on as long as the eighth inning fight, but now fans are getting even more involved. So this is before they started limiting beer. Now they now, now they shut down beers in the seventh inning, but back then it just kept flowing and you could get a beer up until the game ended.
[64:29]
Gareth Reynolds
Better time.
[64:29]
Dave Anthony
And if it went into extra innings, they would reopen everything up again.
[64:33]
Gareth Reynolds
They should do that.
[64:34]
Dave Anthony
I agree. But a lot of people went to games specifically to just get fixed. Yes. It wasn't crazy. It was a normal beer price.
[64:43]
Gareth Reynolds
It was really just. It was really just a reason to go eat. Like, and like there was something else going on in the background.
[64:49]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah, but it's just like you.
[64:51]
Gareth Reynolds
And your friends could get drunk and order food from a guy walking by.
[64:55]
Dave Anthony
So it's the ninth inning, so a lot of people are really drunk.
[64:58]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[65:00]
Dave Anthony
So fans above the Padres dugouts dugout start getting into shouting matches with the Padres players. And then one of them threw a beer at the Padres. Quote, a fan threw a beer on Champ Summers and Champ became unglued. He tried to go over the top of the dugout to go after this fan, but he was restrained. Now furious Kurt Bavaqua also loses his shit and goes after a fan. The Cops were by the dugout, and they stopped him, and they end up restraining. Bivaqua on top of the dugout. Dugout. Wow.
[65:33]
Gareth Reynolds
He got Dugout arrested.
[65:37]
Dave Anthony
Ed Wilson, a pottery pitcher who started it, was now in the dugout shirtless.
[65:43]
Gareth Reynolds
Jesus Christ.
[65:44]
Dave Anthony
I said. I said. I said Wilson, right? It's not. It's. What's his name?
[65:47]
Gareth Reynolds
The. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got his shirt off, so he. That was a choice, I think.
[65:53]
Dave Anthony
I think it got ripped off.
[65:54]
Gareth Reynolds
It got ripped off.
[65:55]
Dave Anthony
I think it got ripped off.
[65:56]
Gareth Reynolds
Now that's hot.
[65:58]
Dave Anthony
And I recommend anybody go online and just put in Padres Braves fight 1984, and look at the pictures. And the pictures of Ed, who we're talking about, are. He's the crazy guy in the dugout. So I'll show you this picture right here. Gareth. That's Ed in the dugout.
[66:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God.
[66:26]
Dave Anthony
Does he look like a guy who just got in a meth fight outside?
[66:29]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, yes, completely.
[66:30]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[66:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Looks like he just got to, like, just got divorced and got to fight the guy that stole his wife. Wow. This brawl is nuts.
[66:39]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. So.
[66:43]
Gareth Reynolds
He looks insane.
[66:45]
Dave Anthony
So Ed.
[66:45]
Gareth Reynolds
Also his eyes. It looks like blinking hasn't happened in a long time.
[66:50]
Dave Anthony
A long time. And it's not gonna happen for a long time.
[66:53]
Gareth Reynolds
No, no. Looks like his eyelids have been taken.
[66:55]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Blink. Blinking's out of the picture. So he's shirtless. He also had to be restrained as he wanted to attack both the fans and the Braves. A bat boy quote. I remember the look in Ed Woodson's eyes. It was a look that I went, oh. And I didn't want to see Ed like that ever.
[67:12]
Gareth Reynolds
That's the guy we just looked at.
[67:14]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[67:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
[67:15]
Dave Anthony
Down in the left field line, a fan ran onto the field and tried to steal a batting helmet. All right, so this guy's like, this is a good time to try to.
[67:23]
Gareth Reynolds
Do that, I guess. But the bat. Remember that? Now you're trouncing on bat boy territory. That's equipment.
[67:28]
Dave Anthony
That's right. Bat boy quote. Braves infielder Jerry Royster just kind of tackles him, throws him back on the ground, kicks him in the butt, and says, get the hell off the field.
[67:40]
Gareth Reynolds
He handled that pretty well. He could have beaten him with the helmet.
[67:45]
Dave Anthony
The delay of this fight lasts 15 minutes. So now the umpires have to figure this out.
[67:55]
Gareth Reynolds
It does the fight stop because they're kind of tuckering themselves out a little bit. Yeah, but also, there's what, four umpires? I mean, there's not enough of them.
[68:03]
Dave Anthony
To undo this but there's other players stopping it. There are players who are security, too. The fight. Yeah. No, I don't know if there's much security, but. But also if you get the hot heads right out of it. Because. Because it's always one guy or running in like Pavaka or Summers or whatever, there's always a few guys that are just out of their minds.
[68:27]
Gareth Reynolds
Right. Take the fuses out.
[68:29]
Dave Anthony
So the Empires do what no one's ever heard of. They order both teams benches so the guys who aren't playing in the field into the clubhouse for the rest of the game.
[68:37]
Gareth Reynolds
They. Or. Okay, interesting.
[68:40]
Dave Anthony
So the dugouts are empty, right? So now it's just the players on the field, a couple of bad boys and some bullpen guys that remain.
[68:48]
Gareth Reynolds
Starting to get kind of weird.
[68:50]
Dave Anthony
Bat boy Phillips said this was a very smart decision and probably stopped it from getting really bad.
[68:58]
Gareth Reynolds
God.
[68:59]
Dave Anthony
Oh, buddy, it's already bad.
[69:00]
Gareth Reynolds
It's horrible.
[69:01]
Dave Anthony
Quote, it could have been worse than it was. I've got to be honest. It could have been worse. At least in my dugout, there were a lot of really ticked off guys. The Pottery score two runs in the ninth, but the Braves, it keeps going. He's going. What do they got? They have to play it the Pottery. Although they could have just stopped and said, that's it.
[69:20]
Gareth Reynolds
1:45Am Bottom of the night, a man is dead, about six people are dead. There's a bird that's passed away. Four fires, and it looks like a sinkhole is open. A deep right field. We got to get out of here. My son starts school in four hours.
[69:38]
Dave Anthony
Wait, your son starts school at 5:45?
[69:40]
Gareth Reynolds
No, because I'm in a different city and I got to go back to where I'm from. You're forgetting the time difference. What, are you here to poke holes? Let's just finish this, huh?
[69:49]
Dave Anthony
The Braves win 5 to 3. And after the game, all the shit talking started. Both teams blamed each other for starting it, and they all expected it to continue when they met again the next month. Joe Tory, Braves manager, quote, dick Williams is an idiot. Spell that with a capital I and a small W. Dick Williams, Tell Joe Torres, stick that finger. He's pointing. Williams Also quote, there's not enough mustard in the state of Georgia to cover Perez. Perez quote, I'm no hot dog.
[70:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Just keep it to fighting. The the talk is, how is he a hot dog?
[70:29]
Dave Anthony
He just actually hit a guy. He's not a hot dog.
[70:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I'm still caught up on idiot with a capital I and the Capital. Wow. You idiot. Or his last name.
[70:37]
Dave Anthony
No. So his name. He's saying his name would be Idiot Williams, but. Oh, so he's such a little man. You don't capitalize the W. It's just pretty. It took a lot that.
[70:48]
Gareth Reynolds
That's like when I would read Shakespeare and be like, what is he saying?
[70:51]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's like, it's. You want to be Joe. That's a little sweaty. You don't want a different.
[70:54]
Gareth Reynolds
It's a little much.
[70:55]
Dave Anthony
Although sweaty.
[70:55]
Gareth Reynolds
Now I'm Joe. Tori. Ready?
[70:57]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[70:57]
Gareth Reynolds
All right. Ask for a quote on him.
[70:59]
Dave Anthony
You have a quote on that?
[70:59]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. He's an idiot, that guy. We're gonna beat the out of him if he's not careful. Boom. Done.
[71:03]
Dave Anthony
He spell his name, though.
[71:05]
Gareth Reynolds
I D, I, O, T, W, small W, I, L, L. I'm no hot dog.
[71:13]
Dave Anthony
When I was younger, sweaty meant you were trying too hard to do something. And now it means the opposite with kids. So, I mean, like, that was sweaty, but it means like, it was awesome as opposed to.
[71:23]
Gareth Reynolds
This is tough.
[71:24]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's not good.
[71:25]
Gareth Reynolds
Can't hang out with this. That's some skibidi toilet.
[71:29]
Dave Anthony
Player Jerry Royster, quote, two Mensch. Too much went on for it to be over. We're looking for it. Player Bobby Brown, quote, stay tuned for round two. There was concern this fight would have an impact on the entire league. And after the game, the umpire talked on the phone to the league office for a long time. And he told them, quote, this has put baseball back 50 years. So the fight is nationwide news. ABC's Nightline does, which is a late night show that's on opposite Letterman and the Tonight Show. They do a long story on it, but nothing changed. The Braves would show clips to every team that came to Atlanta to play because they all wanted to see it because there wasn't video on the news. They had all the.
[72:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, shit.
[72:14]
Dave Anthony
They had their stadium clips.
[72:16]
Gareth Reynolds
Wait, so they. If they're doing reporting on it, it's just pictures only.
[72:21]
Dave Anthony
I think there is some video. But they didn't. Wasn't like the cameras of the field they use.
[72:26]
Gareth Reynolds
Right? Right.
[72:26]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[72:27]
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
[72:28]
Dave Anthony
But something surprising happened or. Or didn't happen. There was no fight. When the teams met six weeks later, enough time had gone by for things to simmer down. And maybe all the media attention made them feel that. Like they look like idiots.
[72:41]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[72:41]
Dave Anthony
I would imagine, like, you go home and your wife's like, what the fuck were you doing?
[72:45]
Gareth Reynolds
He hit me in the buttocks.
[72:46]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Everyone's getting like, the Moms are calling them, going, what. What is happening with you?
[72:49]
Gareth Reynolds
I'm sorry.
[72:52]
Dave Anthony
The Padres had clinched the division, so there was nothing to play for.
[72:55]
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
[72:56]
Dave Anthony
And the two managers spoke and made up.
[72:59]
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, that's cute.
[73:00]
Dave Anthony
Prez even pitched and got a win in the rematch. So he fucking pitched in the rematch.
[73:05]
Gareth Reynolds
That's why. That's a wild decision.
[73:07]
Dave Anthony
That's really crazy because he doesn't have to pitch. Yeah, it's depending on how many games he was trying to win or whatever. That's a while they could have just held him out.
[73:14]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[73:15]
Dave Anthony
But people still talk about the fight today. It's way up on the list of worst sports fights ever, if not the top one.
[73:21]
Gareth Reynolds
Can we see highlights of it now?
[73:24]
Dave Anthony
Oh, yeah, I think you can find some. Yeah. It's not like it was a common thing. One of the bad boys who played through high school said, quote, I've never seen anything like this ever. Now, a lot of these guys are famous baseball players. Joe Torrey would go on to win.
[73:37]
Gareth Reynolds
He's a Yankees guy, right?
[73:38]
Dave Anthony
Many World Series as a Yankees manager. Goose Gossage is considered an all time reliever. Bob Horner is a. Is a Braves legend. Donnie Moore gave up one of the most legendary playoff home runs in history and then soon after shot his wife, who survived, but then he killed himself. A lot of people think he committed suicide because angel fans were so mean to him after giving up the home run. But in truth, he was just fucked up. And then Dave Dravecki famously was throwing a pitch, his arm cracked and he found out he had cancer. And then he got cured of cancer. Did he have his arm cut off? Did he have one arm cut off? But he came back and then it broke again. So anyway, and Eric show became a fame. So Eric Sho, the main John Bircher loudmouth guy, would be revealed to be just a massive drug addict.
[74:31]
Gareth Reynolds
Was he able to. Did he eradicate the world of communism?
[74:34]
Dave Anthony
He didn't. What he did was eradicate himself.
[74:37]
Gareth Reynolds
I got to say, this umpire in this brawl is big boned. Watching this umpire get involved in this is crazy. Yeah, this is crazy. You can watch it on YouTube. It's kind of like it, like to what you were saying, it's like it's so sloppy because it is not like everyone wants to be involved. A lot of people are trying to sort of stop it.
[75:01]
Dave Anthony
Yes.
[75:02]
Gareth Reynolds
But there's still some hot heads.
[75:04]
Dave Anthony
There's always guys trying to stop.
[75:05]
Gareth Reynolds
It's really just male culture. There's just like a number of ones.
[75:10]
Dave Anthony
Where you're like, dudes are like, what are you doing?
[75:12]
Gareth Reynolds
Most of us are trying to be like. Like, please, no.
[75:15]
Dave Anthony
And then there's like, a few dudes outside trying to swing punches, and you're like, frank, yeah. Jesus, dude, this again?
[75:20]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. There's just definitely, I think, the difference in this. The guy running from out of nowhere to try to get in the dugout, and then when the fan throws the beer at his head, there's a woman getting knocked down over there.
[75:36]
Dave Anthony
I mean, it's a bad fight. The difference between this fight and other fights is I think that more dudes wanted to fight.
[75:42]
Gareth Reynolds
Right?
[75:43]
Dave Anthony
Because I. I, very specifically in my mem, have. Have these pictures of certain players doing certain things. Like, I remember when the Dodgers got into a fight and there was, like, that pile, and it didn't seem that bad. And all of a sudden, Gary Sheffield runs from out of right field and just jumps in the pile, just hitting people, and it kicks off and you're like, yeah, right. That guy was out of his mind.
[76:06]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, that's kind of what is happening here. It's a lot of time to try to figure it out. Jesus Christ, the outfits are awesome.
[76:17]
Dave Anthony
Baseball fights are. Are. When they're real fights, they're. They're really insane, dude.
[76:21]
Gareth Reynolds
It keeps traveling to, like, different zones. It's like. It's like it kind of ends over in one area. And then one guy's like, yeah, yeah.
[76:32]
Dave Anthony
They just. They just move.
[76:33]
Gareth Reynolds
So where is. Where does. Is this the worst baseball fight on the field?
[76:37]
Dave Anthony
That's considered the worst. I still kind of think the Giants Cardinals was because they fought more than once over a couple years.
[76:47]
Gareth Reynolds
And the last spanner.
[76:49]
Dave Anthony
The last fight was like nothing I had ever seen. It went on for a long time. And one pitcher had, like, broken ribs and a broken arm. And, like, it was like. It was. It was guys. I remember very specifically guys getting knocked down and other guys jumping on top of them with their cleats.
[77:04]
Gareth Reynolds
You know what's kind of funny about baseball fights, too, is that that while they are athletes, the conditioning level for baseball athletes in the 80s, say, is way lower than other sports. And so these guys are gassed. These, These. This is like the biggest cardio workout some of these men have had in their lives.
[77:24]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, they're not. They're not doing a lot of cardio stuff.
[77:28]
Gareth Reynolds
There's not a lot. Oh, boy. That pitch in the elbow.
[77:31]
Dave Anthony
They're doing a lot of.
[77:33]
Gareth Reynolds
A lot of hitting and throwing, hitting, throwing. But there's, like, there. There's. They're Chubby.
[77:38]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, there's a lot of chubby.
[77:39]
Gareth Reynolds
These guys are chubby. And they're getting gassed.
[77:42]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. I mean, there's a reason you. There's pictures of them smoking in the dugout and shit. Like, because they just partied and hung out and drank and then played baseball.
[77:49]
Gareth Reynolds
Kind of better.
[77:51]
Dave Anthony
It is better. You know what I got, I gotta say, like, watching Finn go through the process of playing travel ball and stuff, it's just all so individualized. There's no team sort of camaraderie. Maybe at the high school level, but so many of the high, high school level coaches are just such pieces of that. It's all just such a mess. And then you're trying to survive on your own and try to. Trying to become good on your own without your coach destroying it. And it's just all completely individualized. So I think they grew up in a time when it wasn't individualized and it was truly a team sport. And now I think it's not as much of a team sport.
[78:28]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Is there's so much like, yeah, we are just so selfish now. So. So it's pretty reflective of society.
[78:39]
Dave Anthony
But like, they also, like, it's now a sport where you have to work out. Like, Finn is like, yeah, he's jacked. He's jacked. And, and it's. And not a lot of his teammates are. But if you want to go on to the next level, you gotta be jacked.
[78:52]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[78:52]
Dave Anthony
And he wants to play the next level. So. So these, the kids who really want to get better are all jacked. And then there's kids on his team that just look like regular like 16 year olds or like scrawny and like.
[79:02]
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
[79:02]
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Hang out with my buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, and now if you see a, if you see any college guys, like, I mean, I went and saw the top, to the top 25 programs, Vanderbilt and UCLA play, and I was just like, I mean, these guys. Yeah, these guys are like physical specimens and they're just in college.
[79:22]
Gareth Reynolds
It's always funny when you go to like, watch sports versus, like on the tv.
[79:27]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[79:27]
Gareth Reynolds
Because you'll go, you'll like watch on the TV and be like, this guy's fat.
[79:30]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[79:30]
Gareth Reynolds
Then you go to the game, you're like, these are illegal monsters. I shot a commercial once for the ufl, which I think is now not a thing any longer. But so it was like, you know, players who weren't good enough for the NFL. They were playing in a secondary league. And I mean, it was shocking.
[79:48]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[79:48]
Gareth Reynolds
Shock.
[79:49]
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
[79:49]
Gareth Reynolds
I was like, how can these guys not be the NFL dude?
[79:53]
Dave Anthony
The baseball players that you see that are like, in like, Division 3 schools, you're just like, why? Yeah, it's like a monster.
[79:59]
Gareth Reynolds
I know now.
[80:00]
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's crazy.
[80:01]
Gareth Reynolds
It's crazy.
[80:02]
Dave Anthony
But all the kids now are really up from you, from tick tock and working out and getting muscles. The boys, really.
[80:11]
Gareth Reynolds
What do you mean?
[80:13]
Dave Anthony
They've all become like. But influenced into just not all of them, but a lot of them just like into, like really working out and being like, you know, this, like, muscle.
[80:26]
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
[80:26]
Dave Anthony
Chiseled dude.
[80:28]
Gareth Reynolds
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[81:15]
Dave Anthony
Do the Goo to. We call that do the Goo to.
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Gareth Reynolds
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[81:48]
Dave Anthony
That was by John Foster, right?
[81:49]
Gareth Reynolds
That was by John Foster. That's how I know who's a hell of a guy. Then another one of my sources for this was, wow, what a strike. Then I also went on the ringer. I love the ringer. Remembering baseball's right wing rotation. So that's where you're gonna get your Birch fix. Also a big. A big article by Ryan Curtis.
[82:10]
Dave Anthony
That's the same article.
[82:11]
Gareth Reynolds
Same article as the one I was saying before, but we do that one. And that was a big one for me.
[82:16]
Dave Anthony
And then you got stuff from YouTube.
[82:17]
Gareth Reynolds
And then I had a lot of YouTube, YouTube stuff and a lot of you porn stuff. I did a lot of you porn for this one. No, I did. I did a lot of you porn stuff.
[82:25]
Dave Anthony
And like, what. What are some of the titles?
[82:28]
Gareth Reynolds
Titles of the you porn stuff? Yeah, they snored a bit. That was one of them. And then ball grabs. I did a lot of.
[82:38]
Dave Anthony
Why is. Why is that snow bear in Australia?
[82:40]
Gareth Reynolds
Not a. What? That's not a bat. Have an Australian accent.
[82:43]
Dave Anthony
You said bear.
[82:44]
Gareth Reynolds
No.
[82:45]
Dave Anthony
Oh, no, that's not about. Why is it Australian?
[82:48]
Gareth Reynolds
Because it's this guy, Crocodile Dundee. He. He's really.
[82:52]
Dave Anthony
I wish I hadn't asked. You know when you do that and.
[82:54]
Gareth Reynolds
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