720 - Charley Sweeney

Summary

The Dollop Podcast – Episode 720: Charley Sweeney

Podcast: The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Host: All Things Comedy
Date: February 10, 2026
Episode Theme:
Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds dive into the wild and tumultuous life of 19th-century baseball pitcher Charley Sweeney, exploring his career, rivalries, excessive drinking, on-field scandals, off-field violence, and ultimate decline. The episode balances irreverent humor with genuine historical interest, unpacking the eccentricities and chaos of early American baseball and its personalities.

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Main Theme/Purpose

This episode explores the rise, fall, and infamy of Charley Sweeney, a gifted but volatile 19th-century baseball pitcher whose career oscillated between athletic triumph and personal catastrophe. Through Sweeney's story, Dave and Gareth highlight the wild early days of professional baseball, the lack of oversight, the lawlessness of both the game and the era, and how personality, addiction, and violence shaped lives both on and off the field.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Sweeney Family Background and Early Life (02:12–06:15)

• Charley Sweeney was born in San Francisco to Irish immigrants in 1863, one of many siblings in a tough, working-class family.
• His father was a cop – "a serious drinker and a very tough man in general" [03:03] – and the family had little in the way of formal education.
• Charley's early life included an apprenticeship as a butcher, which the hosts irreverently riff on with jokes about cow anatomy and murderous butchers [04:01–05:31].

2. Beginnings in Baseball and Early Talent (05:37–08:33)

• Sweeney made a name for himself in local Bay Area baseball as a strong, durable player.
• "He was 'a large man of great strength and endurance.'" (Reading from a period newspaper, [05:37])
• Played multiple positions and could hit well, but his youth and inexperience showed.

3. Early Disciplinary Problems and Suspensions (08:08–09:59)

• Sweeney was cut from the Niantics (May 1883) for "dishonorable conduct"—he deliberately lost a game by making it easy for the other team to score, resulting in a 21–2 blowout.
• The league expelled him for intentionally throwing the game, a notorious incident.

4. Major League Breakthrough and Rivalry with Radbourn (10:03–24:06)

• Sweeney joined the Providence Grays, quickly showing promise by defeating top teams [11:06–11:44].
• A simmering, comically petty rivalry developed with fellow pitcher Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourn.
  • Both were prima donnas, constantly complaining of injuries while refusing rest.
  • Their toxic competitiveness, described as “arm-off ache-offs,” leads to a comic routine between the hosts [16:20–17:13].
  • "They're both prima donnas and narcissists." – Dave [14:29]

5. Epic Feats and Burnout (19:16–25:04)

• Sweeney struck out 19 batters in a game, setting a record
  • “In the second game, Charlie struck out 19 batters. That is a record that stood until 1986 when Roger Clemens broke it.” – Dave [19:16]
• Both Sweeney and Radbourn were leveraged to the brink with back-to-back pitching, injuries, and messy contract disputes.
• Sweeney’s temper boiled over: when replaced midgame, he “deliberately walked off the field” and quit, leading to a season-long suspension [24:17–25:08].

6. Jumping to the Upstart League – Money and Silk (26:48–29:39)

• Sweeney landed with the St. Louis Maroons, an upstart Union Association club, with a plush contract and luxurious travel, as colorfully reported at the time:
  • "Lucas clothed them in silk, rode them about the country in palace cars and fed them on the best in the lang." [27:43]
• He excelled on the field, but this defection got him blacklisted from established leagues.

7. Blacklisting and Roller-Coaster Comebacks (29:39–34:13)

• Due to baseball’s restrictive contracts, Sweeney was blacklisted for switching leagues.
• Despite arm injuries and heavy drinking, he repeatedly popped up in major teams, always managing either a moment of heroics or disaster.
• A running joke (and highlight) emerges around “Hippo,” a fictional pitcher whose pants always fall down, a product of the hosts’ riffing about absurd early baseball [32:06–33:41].

8. Drunken Decline and Violent Behavior (35:01–53:20)

• Sweeney developed a notorious drinking problem—papers chronicled his heavy intoxication and public altercations.
  • "The local papers are now reporting that he drank too much, as he had in Providence, they said." [35:16]
• Drunken saloon fights, pulling his gun on teammates, and public shootouts became frequent.
  • "There are stories of drunk Charlie pulling his gun on people who annoyed him." – Dave [48:45]
  • Sweeney once fired 15 shots into a bar door after being kicked out [51:56–52:23].
  • Despite this, he kept getting offers from baseball teams for his playing and managing skills.

9. Endless Comebacks, Final Downward Spiral (53:39–56:10)

• Sweeney bounced through teams, positions, and cities—outfielder, first baseman, pitcher—always followed by controversy, drinking, and frequent dismissals.
  • "It really is amazing back then, I guess, how long you could actually play if you became once you were good, you just lived off the fat of that for as long as possible." – Gareth [54:12]
• He eventually ran a bar, worked as a cop (was quickly fired), and became a bodyguard for gamblers.

10. Murder and Prison (58:01–64:13)

• In a drunken, violent argument, Sweeney shot and killed Gasoon McManus, the brother of his gambler employer [58:01–59:18].
• The episode riffs comically on the subsequent trial:
  • Gareth as lawyer: "Who among us has not pulled out a revolver that they loaded two to three times to send the message that they were unhappy?" [61:13]
• Despite a chaotic trial, Sweeney was only convicted of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 8 years (out in ~5), thanks in part to being a famous ballplayer.

11. Post-Prison and Final Years (65:16–76:10)

• Sweeney umpired games, where he threatened players and fans.
  • "If any of you start arguing balls and strikes or whatever, I will kill you." – Dave, acting as Sweeney [65:27]
• More fights, more drunkenness, and brushes with the law.
• Personal misfortunes continued: windowed, suffering from consumption, and reportedly destitute, he died in 1902, remembered locally as a baseball hero and a legend in self-destruction.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Early Baseball and Sweeney’s Build

• "He was 'a large man of great strength and endurance.'" – Dave [05:37]
• “I just realized I should have apprenticed for the furniture guy.” – Dave, after a riff about butcher work [04:42]

On Throwing the Game

• “Apparently he tried to lose the game as a pitcher and basically threw the ball so the other team could hit it very easily. And they lost 21 to 2.” – Dave [08:45]

On the Radbourn Rivalry

• "They’re having an arm-off ache-off." – Gareth [16:27]
• "He is before sports divas...He’s the Trump of pitchers." – Gareth [23:32]

On Sweeney’s Drunken Antics

• “There stories of drunk Charlie pulling his gun on people who annoyed him.” – Dave [48:45]
• “He drew the revolver and made an attack on the front door…He fired 15 shots. What? And then the cops arrived.” – Dave [51:57–52:23]

On the Culture of Early Baseball

• "There should be an actual...like, a drunk league." – Dave [76:14]
• "If we have the Savannah Bananas, there’s no doubt that we should have a drunk league." – Gareth [76:23]

On Sweeney’s Death and Legacy

• "He slowly worsened over time and was hospitalized in February 1902...and he died April 4 and is buried in Colma, California." – Dave [76:10]
• “What a shitty drunk.” – Dave [76:12]
• "You could just—I wish there were still drunk baseball players. I think it'd be more fun than what it is now." – Dave [76:13]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:10 – Charley Sweeney’s Birth and Family
• 05:37 – First Signs of Baseball Talent
• 08:33 – Cut for Dishonorable Conduct/Thrown Game
• 11:06–11:44 – First Major League Game, Rise in Providence Grays
• 14:29–17:22 – Rivalry and Comedic “Arm Off” (prime stint of hosts’ banter)
• 19:16 – 19 Strikeouts, Setting the Record
• 24:17 – Sweeney’s Rant, Walking off the Field
• 27:43 – Life with the Maroons, Silk and Palace Cars
• 32:06–33:41 – “Hippo” the Pants-Dropping Pitcher (classic riff)
• 35:01–35:16 – Reports of Drinking Problems Begin
• 47:33–48:23 – Sweeney Attacked, Given Gun Permit (!)
• 51:56–52:23 – 15-Shot Saloon Drunken Shootout
• 58:01 – Sweeney Shoots and Kills Gasoon McManus
• 61:13 – Gareth’s Hilarious Lawyer Riff
• 65:16–66:01 – Sweeney as Umpire: "I will kill you."
• 74:16–75:53 – Incident with Mr. Tong, the Board, and Laundry (race relations examined)
• 76:10 – Sweeney’s Death and Final Thoughts

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Overall Tone and Style

The episode is marked by rapid-fire banter, absurdity, and dark humor as Dave and Gareth dissect the lunacy of Gilded Age baseball with relish. They use Sweeney’s saga as a springboard for riffs on workplace violence, addiction, baseball history, American lawlessness, and the nature of celebrity bad behavior. Both comedians frequently perform in-character as Sweeney, Radbourn, aggrieved teammates, and 19th-century officials, mimicking courtroom speeches and drunken outbursts with comedic exaggeration.

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Conclusion

Charley Sweeney lived fast, played hard, burned every bridge, and punctuated his baseball legacy with gunfire, drunken fights, and tragedy. Dave and Gareth — with irreverence, insight, and wild digressions — reconstruct his legacy not just as a cautionary sports tale, but as a portal into America’s disorderly, untamed past. The hosts close with a reflective sigh on the chaos and entertainment value of drunks in sports, and by extension, the culture that enabled and excused men like Charley Sweeney.

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Transcript

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You're listening to the Dollar on the.

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All Things Comedy Network. This is an American history podcast or each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to a very.

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Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about, nor does he even care. You've been bad. You've been bad.

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To a member of ice, you're bad.

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If you were ice, this show might dip.

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I, I have considered joining ICE just to, just to get in there and how crazy. That's really what people should be doing.

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But they'd be like, cool, all right, here you go.

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They would take me in a heartbeat.

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Ye.

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In a heartbeat.

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Yes.

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It's like anybody with a heartbeat.

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I mean the demographic wise, you break down perfectly. Fries your white 50. Pissed off.

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Yeah, but I'm pissed off at them.

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Yeah, but they would just, they don't care. Yeah, they would be like, it's cool. Dean Kane can join ICE. Anyone can.

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April 13, 1863. Year of our Lord J town. The magic man, he of the jet ski, you know what I'm saying? Talking about turn water in a wine, you know what I mean? What does that mean, Jet Ski?

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Because it goes on water.

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Exactly what I'm saying. Charles Joseph Sweeney was born to Edward and Mary Sweeney in San Francisco, California.

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Okay.

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They were Irish immigrants who came to the US around 1850. Now Charles had a 12 year old older brother, Edward.

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Okay.

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Probably called him Eddie. Right? Eddie. Yeah. Eds.

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Yep.

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Eddie smed sometimes. Probably Shed Fred, apparently.

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You don't understand anything. Thought you were doing a nickname nickname for that.

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Is Fred wrong? I think so.

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I think that's wrong.

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Edward. Edward was the father. Edward's Father was a cop.

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Okay.

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He was also a serious drinker and a very tough dad. Very tough man in general. While he was a cop. He had several incidents of using excessive force on and off duty. H. So a cop?

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Yeah, he's a. He's a officer.

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The Sweeney kept cranking out kids.

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Good.

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They also had Mary Rebecca Margaret, James, Elizabeth, Francis, John, and William. All those nicknamed Fred.

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No.

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I think so.

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I. I would imagine if you didn't make it, too.

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Yeah.

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So this woman was.

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Because it's 1863, so they're definitely not making it. There's definitely ones that are coming out.

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Not Airbnb the wound already.

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Yeah. Undercooked ones.

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Yuck. Indeed.

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That's a lot of. That's a lot of kids, though. The children got very little schooling.

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Good.

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But then they get a job or they get married, and that would be it, you know. Off they went.

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Good.

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In 1880, Charlie was working as a butcher's apprentice. That's gonna be great. Just think about the. You're doing as a butcher.

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Jesus Christ. Yeah. You cut his head off.

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Pick up the intestines.

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These are the good parts. Called a rump. This is a sirloin. I'm 11. There you go.

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There you go.

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You ever seen the inside of a cow's anus?

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No.

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Here you go. Take a look at that.

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I don't want to see that.

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It's a backwards mouth.

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What does this have to do with butchering?

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Now, you just got to find ways to make this a little fun for yourself, because in many ways, this just gets a little old. You're going to want to do stuff.

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It's not fun.

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Let me show you how to wear a cow's rectum like a turtleneck.

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I don't want to do that. Look at that.

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Oh, I'm off to my Aspen Chalet. See, you gotta have fun with it.

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I should. I should have apprenticed for the furniture guy.

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Yeah, that guy's a sick.

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You're wearing a Cowanus. Yeah, as a. Like a collar.

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Hold on. Watch. I'm gonna take the tail and make it look like I got a weird hairdo. Oh, excuse me. I'm off to my Aspen chalet. I'm doing quite well. See? That's funny.

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Are you even a butcher?

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No. What butcher?

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What are you.

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What do you mean?

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I thought I was a finishing for a butcher. Oh.

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Oh, no. I'm a murderer. Oh, I'm so sorry. I can. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, boy.

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I don't want to be a murderer.

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All right. Well, to each their Own my friend.

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All right. Bye.

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All right, take care.

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Now you can leave. Right, Cool.

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Yeah, of course. Yeah. I don't do kids.

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Okay.

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Cool kid.

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It's actually a Cowan.

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Oh, he's still here. Yeah. Yeah. All right, get out now. Seriously. Off.

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Bye.

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I'm doing some stuff.

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Bye. Charlie's big thing was baseball. And he made a name for himself playing on fields around the Bay Area. He was, quote, a large man of great strength and endurance.

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Okay. Like you.

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Yeah. He's 5, 10, 181 pounds. Like, that's so funny, because my son is bigger.

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Yeah. When you. We know this, though.

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When you.

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Back then, like, you had a huge foot, size six, everything was smaller.

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Yeah. If you're from a terrible country, that's 170 cm and 82 kg.

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Okay.

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But like the. Backwards. Backwards.

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I think we should be translating for those people. Just get on board with the best weights and measurements units.

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That's right. When Charlie was 17 years old, he started playing for the San Francisco Athletics. I just go ahead. If you're a baseball team, you can't call yourself the Athletics, because I don't know if people have seen baseball players, but a lot of it. I just can't go with the athletic part.

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Some are athletic, though, but they're.

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You know, there's been crazy out of shape people playing baseball for years.

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This guy's a real fatty. He's 115 pounds.

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A paper said he had, quote, good command of the ball, but lacked the understanding of an experienced player. Charlie pitched. He played the outfield.

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Is that because he was inexperienced?

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Yeah. He's 17.

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Right.

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Charlie pitched, played the outfield, first base, and badass.

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That is a crazy thing to say.

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Yeah.

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But he plays, unfortunately, like he's never played the game professionally before. Yes. Right.

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He's actually never played the game before.

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Yeah. And it's showing up. So that's a knock against him. It shouldn't be because he lacks the experience. And we're looking for people with experience. He's never done this before, so he doesn't have the experience. It's a bit of a. It's a problem that we don't see any way to solve it. You either have it or you don't.

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Please don't tell me you're running the team.

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I am the owner, gm, coach, and I know what I'm doing. Also starting pitcher.

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You actually still sound better than my son's high school coach. Charlie Sweeney played the 1882 season for different west coast teams. The Athletic, the Niantics, the Renos. The Reno Renos. I'm sure they're just from Reno and they're like, what's his name?

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Where? The Renos.

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It's so dumb.

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Why not Rhinos? The Reno Rhinos.

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That's a good name. I'm here for mostly with the Niantics. Who He What? Niantics and I. A. Antics. Niantics, sure. Niantics Nics. He played with him until May 13, 1883, when he was cut for, quote, dishonorable conduct.

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Is it true they always cut someone when they cut him back then?

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Yeah. They would slice their. Usually from. You're out of here. Sternum up all the way up to the head.

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Get the goodbye sword.

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Apparently he tried to lose the game as a pitcher and basically threw the ball so the other team could hit it very easily. And they lost 21 to 2.

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So he got mad because he was g. Wait, no.

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He just got upset with the team and purposely lost the game.

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Oh, right. Okay. Okay.

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Which I get.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. After this, the league unanimously voted to formally expel him two weeks later.

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Wait, why are they expelling him?

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Because he purposely let the other team.

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Win, but because they were done? Is that what you're saying?

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No, he went out as a pitcher and just threw the ball so they could hate, hit it as easy as possible and just crush his team.

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Okay. All right, Gotcha.

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So, yeah, sure.

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Okay.

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It's like there's a. There's a kid who. I think it was college, but no, it was the minors, and his team sucked. And if they. If they, like, lost this game, their season will be over and they could go home. And he wanted to go home. So every time a batter would come up, he'd tell he was the catcher. He'd be like, hey, this can be a fastball. And the other team just crushed him. But now he can't play baseball ever again because he's, like, barred from baseball.

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That's good.

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He ended up. Oh, so. So he's been expelled there. So now he gets the West Coast. So now he hits the east coast, and he ends up playing for the Providence Grays in the National League. It's a good team. They were in Rhode island, which is our most pointless state. It's a driveway. It's basically Massachusetts driveway, but yeah.

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Delaware.

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I mean, honestly, it's. It's north and South Dakota.

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Yeah. Say yes. Yep. They should be one.

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Yeah.

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But we did get Kristi Noem because of them.

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Did you hear? We're going to try to start problems with Alberta and the Rest of Canada. So Alberta will secede. Yes. We're such fucking lunatic.

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No, out of. I mean, what. What the fuck is even. You know what I mean?

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Just batshit crazy country.

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Everything is stupid. So it's just you're. It's just you're like, wow, Dumb Hitler.

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He had two ex west coast teammates on the team. Jerry Denny and Sandy Nava. Charlie's first game was on June 11th against the defending champion Chicago White Stockings. He won 6 to 2 and was praised by reporters. Quote, he maintained a cool head and a cool judgment all through the game. And his last ball was pitched as well as the first.

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It's like he has experience, which is.

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Something we're looking for, which he doesn't actually have.

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Right.

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He won his next game, but in the third game, his arm started hurting and he was replaced in the fifth inning.

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Okay, fine.

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On July 4th, they had two games. One in Philadelphia in the morning and then a night game in New York. All right. Fucking yeah.

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That is brutal.

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That is crazy.

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So, I mean, we do. We do two shows sometimes on a tour. We're like, this can't go on.

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Yeah, make it stop.

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This is exhausting.

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I mean, have you. Do you ever do three stand up shows?

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Yeah, I have one in Portland in like a week or two.

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Those, like, I would be up there and just totally forget my act and be like, did I say this already? Which show?

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I honestly.

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Did I do that?

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I always find that one of them is amazing later on because I'm just out of my mind.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And it's honestly, like people are just watching like a circus monkey.

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Yeah.

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Where you're just.

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That's most of your.

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That is a fair point. Yeah, that is a fair point.

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Are you the guy who takes your shirt off?

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Yes, I take my shirts off. I take my shirt off and then I put it on my boner.

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On July 4, they had two games. One in Philadelphia and I came in New York. So they cut the Philly game short and left pulling.

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Cut it short. Yeah, we got it. We have. We have another game.

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We're out.

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So. Yeah, this has been great. Thank you for having us. We do have to go to another game.

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Gotta go.

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See you later. Thank you so much.

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But that meant they forfeit, right?

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So what's the point?

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I don't know. Then they took a train to New York and lost one to nothing.

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Hey, we're gonna go back to Philly, see if they're still out there. Maybe we can try to win that one.

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They might still be on the Field. Charlie's best game that year was September 14th. He only gave up one run over 10 innings and drove in both the runs that his team scored.

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Wow.

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Over the entire first season, he pitched 146⅔ innings and was 77 and hit 218. So. Man. Okay. The next great season, there's this new manager, but they had lost a pitcher, so now it was just Charlie and this guy named Radbourne who has been.

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Those are the two pitchers?

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Yeah, two pitchers.

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Radbourne.

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Radbourn has come up.

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First name.

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We've had him. That's his last name.

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Okay.

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He's been in other episodes.

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Okay.

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They did have a position player who could pitch if there's an emergency. Now, Radbourn was a kind of a star, so he's getting paid a lot. And he spent the preseason complaining about different areas of pain in his body. So the manager took it easy on him.

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Okay.

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And Radbourne then complained so much that the manager started Charlie for the opening game of the season, and he lost two to one. But over the next couple weeks, Charlie and Radbourn became annoying rivals. There's tons of jealousy between them, and it got worse every day. They're both prima donnas and narcissists.

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Where does prima donna come from?

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I don't know, but I'm sure someone knows, and they'll tell me online.

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Is it. It's the. But we've had that before. Madonna. Madonna.

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Yeah. That's well before Madonna.

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So it is pre. Madonna.

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It's a. Let's ask AI to get a fake answer.

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I can't wait.

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It would probably say exactly what you just said.

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Yeah, probably.

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Prima donna refers to several distinct entries. The lingerie brand originated in Germany in 1865. The cheese brand is from the Netherlands. So this is. None of. This is what?

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There's Madonna cheese, and then you can put it on a lady.

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Okay. There's Italian for first lady. It historically refers to the lead female singer in an opera. That's probably where it's from, I would imagine.

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Okay. Yeah, Right.

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It literally means first lady. And Obviously.

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But why pre?

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Over time, it evolved in English to describe anyone who acts temperamental, vain, and demanding and expecting special treatment. Like a temperamental star. Like you.

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So this is you. I'm doing the you bit.

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That's what I have to do.

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You, you, you. I'm the best.

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You're ice one.

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Wrong. You spilled your salad like a dumb. And I went down the street and bought you a salad from a Bar.

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That is true.

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Who's prima donna? I'm the guy. I'm post Madonna.

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You sound more like scared Madonna.

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Confused Madonna.

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I just realized I was at my house and I. I got a sandwich and I just realized I had a sandwich. A salad from yesterday that I could have eaten. And now I'm mad.

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Prima donna. That's. You're the prima donna. Listen to that.

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So they're getting more and more jealous and more crazy every day. And they are constantly complaining about their aching arms. Like they're almost trying to one up.

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They're having an arm off ache.

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Arm off. Achy. Arm off. But they wouldn't rest because they want.

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To be clicks when I move it. Well, I wish I could move mine. That sounds awesome. Well, I. I can't move it. Be because of something like that.

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Clicking.

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Yeah, because of the clicking.

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Yeah. I can't mind. I can't. My fingers are gone.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Fingers.

[A]

You have.

[B]

You had fingers?

[A]

I had fingers.

[B]

Oh, I never had them. No. I don't even have those. I was born without them.

[A]

I don't have an elbow.

[B]

My arm is my arm. My arms. My arms gone. I've already. My arm. My. My arm is going to be studied for science.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

A bunch of guys reached out to me and they said they want to study it because it's just the most useless arm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, have a good pitch.

[A]

Well, I don't have an arm. It's just a stubborn.

[B]

Oh, stub.

[A]

Yeah. Good for you.

[B]

Yeah, I don't even have that. Mine's just socket. Socket, Exposed socket and any. Yeah.

[A]

You got any arm?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

You lost this.

[A]

I can't see.

[B]

You lost.

[A]

I'm glad.

[B]

Who said that? Are you talking to me?

[A]

Hello?

[B]

Hello?

[A]

Is anybody here?

[B]

Hey, chief. Neither one of us think we can go because we don't have arms and we're both blind. The hell are you talking about?

[A]

So it was also. The weather was really bad at this time. So that doesn't help their aching aches and pains.

[B]

But they still solution is to have another no.

[A]

That costs money. But they still keep winning and they take over first place in May. And then the pitchers finally agree that they will take a day off. So they wouldn't take a day off. The manager's like, so if you hurt so much, take a day off. And they refused.

[B]

Why? So they.

[A]

Because they're in competition.

[B]

But are they a competition to not pitch?

[A]

No. With each other. They're like, they want to win. They want to go out and show they're the better pitcher, but they also want to complain the whole time.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

It's the worst.

[B]

That is a difficult needle to throw.

[A]

So they played an important game. Seven series. Seven game series. So now we have three.

[B]

We're doing the World Series. We got. We do the World Series a few times a year.

[A]

Yeah. So if you don't know baseball now that like four is the most you have in a series, but that's very rare. It's usually three.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

They played an important seven game series against the team in second, who of course had pitcher Grasshopper Whitney.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

When, back then when pitchers threw. So they throw from a. It's not a mound. It's a rectangular box. Okay. And some would hop in it before they threw.

[B]

Some would hop in the box to warm up.

[A]

No, to. Oh, to literally a running pitch sort of thing. But it's like a hoppy thing.

[B]

So they, they leave the big. And the happiest was this guy.

[A]

They leap in the air and then.

[B]

Like in what world of physics are they like, that's where you get the good stuff.

[A]

It just takes one idiot to do it well. And everyone's like, that's the thing you got to do.

[B]

You ever see the guys in soccer where they do like the ball on the ground and then they somersault kind of into the throw in.

[A]

It makes no sense.

[B]

That actually seems like it does as a bit. But even then you're just like, okay, all right, Grasshopper. But someone, someone thinking that you're getting torque by jumping, stopping your momentum and then throwing.

[A]

I don't think they're thinking torque. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this is what Winnie did. He leapt in the air. So he became. He got the nickname Grasshopper.

[B]

Jim, your boy's ready to face the Grasshopper out there. I know you look a little intimidated. Is it because you're about to play the happiest guy in the league?

[A]

I wonder if it's like cuz you're thr off the batter by jumping up and down or something.

[B]

Well, the only thing you could be doing is trying to distract.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cuz there is no. You know what I mean? It's like if I jump in the air, I don't run faster when I land.

[A]

I do. It's always been my thing. In the second game, Charlie struck out 19 batters. That is a record that stood until 1986 when Roger Clemens broke it.

[B]

Wow. By the way, Roger Clemens just did it because he loved to see all those K's together.

[A]

You know they don't do that, right?

[B]

What?

[A]

They do KK and then they reverse the third one. Oh, they never put them in order.

[B]

I mean, how great. How great is this country? How great is America? We're really like, look, three K's together is going to be problematic, okay? We have to be very careful with what we're doing. Our letters can be perceived as completely racist. Murderers.

[A]

So after that, Charlie becomes the story of baseball. And the Grays manager decided to pitch him the next two days also.

[B]

Arm is just dead.

[A]

Lost 2 to 0 and 3 to 1.

[B]

The hell happened? You were great yesterday.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Now, you dog.

[A]

And then Radbourne lost the next game. So the team falls out of first. And by the end of June, Charlie's elbow is now really hurting. So the manager's like, I gotta rest you.

[B]

You.

[A]

And when he found out, Radborn, now he's like, I'm going to be pitching more. So I want more money. If you're going to. If I'm going to be pitching all the games. That guy's taking time off. I mean, I'm.

[B]

I'm going to be honest. Radborne's great. Radborn is playing a game for one guy. Yeah, he plays for the Radbourns.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he's. I'm on team, playing pitch as little as possible. The second he's called up to duties, like a thousand bucks a game.

[A]

Got any more scratch coach?

[B]

Thousand bucks a game. That's what you do.

[A]

There's three.

[B]

You can either do that or 25 bucks a pitch. You'll pick whatever you want, chief.

[A]

The manager refused to give him more money. And then rumors began that Radbourne wanted out and that the St. Louis Maroons were interested in him.

[B]

We like difficult positions. Bring him to us. Sounds like this guy's a real problem. We love him to be marooned.

[A]

Do you have a complaining asshole on your team?

[B]

We'd love to try to make that work.

[A]

So Charlie took. Guess how many days he took off? Hurt arm.

[B]

Four.

[A]

Eleven.

[B]

Oh, okay. So you did the thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can't do that. You tell me. And then I go, that's crazy.

[A]

He came back, and he only made it to the fifth inning in his first game. Then he took off another six days and the game. And the Grays now dropped three games out of first. And Radbourne loses his shit because he is pitching so much during this pennant race.

[B]

I mean, once again.

[A]

And then he's also jealous that Charlie is looking like the Pitcher the team can't have missing. Right?

[B]

So that's what now he's being exposed and he's pitching too much.

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Again, I can't help but think that another pitcher might be the move.

[A]

I, I, what I hear from you is crazy.

[B]

Okay? Bring in the cricket.

[A]

And he's also not getting extra pay, so Radbourne's not happy. And he, then he thinks umpire Stewart Decker was making bad calls. So there's a lot of stuff that Radbourne is saying, but again, I like.

[B]

I like this guy.

[A]

Radbourne seems like a guy who's like, if I lose, it's not my fault.

[B]

He is a, he is before sports divas.

[A]

Yeah. He's the Trump of pitchers.

[B]

Yeah. I'm unable to pitch. Everything hurts, and I need a lot more money to make it happen.

[A]

On top of that, he wasn't really playing well, so he was suspended by the Graves.

[B]

By the way, I've won every game so far.

[A]

No, you haven't.

[B]

Yes, I have.

[A]

No, you haven't.

[B]

I have. Nobody's hit the ball. I believe that nobody's hit the ball off me one time. And a lot of they look at you and they go, hey, this guy never, nobody's ever hit him before.

[A]

Wild. So it's been a while. So the team suspends him, okay? And now that means Charlie has to pitch no matter how bad he's feeling.

[B]

What the is happening? What are they gonna do?

[A]

They got no options here. They gotta pitch the hurt guy, get another guy. What? You keep saying this weird thing. It doesn't make sense.

[B]

By the way, I think you need two more, if I'm being totally honest.

[A]

Well, Charlie won three games, okay? And in the fourth game back, he was winning six to two against Philadelphia when the manager came out to the mound to take him out and move him to the outfield. And he unloads on the manager in this crazy swear filled rant. Fellow player Arthur Irwin described Charlie as a quote, sulk. He deliberately walked off the field the sixth. He went to the dressing room, changed his clothes and left the lot so he wouldn't go to the outfield. Right? And he just left.

[B]

He just left again. I do like it.

[A]

And then they suspended him for the rest of the season, okay? And the Grays lost that game.

[B]

Radbourne, I got bad news, buddy. We got 80 games left. How's that? Arm it.

[A]

Hoyts, can we get another pitcher?

[B]

No, probably not. We're going to need you to pitch every game going forward.

[A]

Oh, My God.

[B]

Yeah. You're the last of a dying breed. Unfortunately, God's left us with no other choice.

[A]

Well, all I got is an innie.

[B]

Yeah, you're gonna have to use it because we are totally screwed, Coach. Just nothing, Coach. That can be done. Besides, if we have tried everything. Besides, we used Charlie when you weren't good, and then we used you when he wasn't good, and then he's gone.

[A]

What about another pitcher?

[B]

Just down to you.

[A]

I can't see.

[B]

This is going to be tough on you. You're really gonna have a very difficult task ahead.

[A]

I'm gonna need more money. If this is the route we're going down.

[B]

This is just hard.

[A]

Gonna need my money.

[B]

All right. We're bringing in Grasshopper.

[A]

The team also lost the game after they took him out, so that was a bad idea.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Now the papers are saying the team might completely disband.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And the pitching staff was in ruins. And. And the starters are both suspended. And in desperation, the directors quickly renegotiated Redbourn's contract and signed a rookie pitcher.

[B]

Ah, here we go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It just won. Yeah.

[A]

So that means Charlie's out. Yep. So he signs with the St. Louis Maroons.

[B]

Oh, where? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

And got a deal almost exactly like what Radbourne had. He's now. But he's now the league's highest player.

[B]

Charlie is highest paid player.

[A]

High pay player. Yeah.

[B]

Daryl Strawberry was the league's highest player.

[A]

I don't know if he was. Was he? He's pretty high.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Coke. It feels like, but it feels like there were other guys. Yeah. Steve Howe. Okay. The team was full of big names, and the millionaire owner treated them very well. The St. Joseph Daily Press quote, lucas clothed them in Silk Road them about the country in palace cars and fed them on the best in the lang. I don't know what that means. Land Lang. L, A, N G. Okay. Lang. His first game was on Aug. 3, and he won a local reporter.

[B]

Hold on. They're in kimonos going around, and I think it's.

[A]

They're just really nice outfits. Outfits. Yeah.

[B]

But they're being paraded around like it's the dream.

[A]

Yeah. They got, well, palace cars is. Are like the fancy. Well, do they have trains? Yeah. They get trained? Yeah, it's like the fancy.

[B]

Oh, like the train car. Yeah. Pullmans.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So he wins his first game Aug. 3, and a local reporter is amazed at, quote, his ease, deceitful change of pace, speed and mastery of different styles of delivery. And then The Maroons go on and win the league by 21 games. Charlie went 247 with a 1.83 ERA and 271 innings. On top of that, he hit.316.

[B]

Wow. It's a great player.

[A]

Good. Yeah, very good. The grays went 41.9 and 1.

[B]

The grays.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Without him. And won the their league championship.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

German LEAGUE so Charlie was now blacklisted by the National League for signing with the Union Association League, which was an upstart, not honoring the other league's contracts.

[B]

So explain that to me.

[A]

Okay. So we've talked about this before, but there's two leagues.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Basically it's like say American and national. And they. When you sign with them as a rookie, you forever are under their contract. So they can decide whether or not they want to sell you. But if you want to play, you have to play with them. No other team will take you. Right. So this new, new league starts. It's a union league, basically. That's what I thought. Players are behind it.

[B]

Is it an off season basically, that they formed? Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And they. And so they. So they. They don't care about the other team's contracts. They'll just be like, we'll sign whoever. Right. You.

[B]

And so he plays with them.

[A]

He plays.

[B]

He's still hon his contract, but he's not allowed to play with anyone else.

[A]

Well, yeah, he's break.

[B]

He's breaking that part of the game.

[A]

He breaks the contracts with the other team. Although, remember they suspended him, but they can suspend him and he just can't play anymore. He. He's not allowed to go to the team under their rules, which is obviously insane. Right. So. But you know, it's a big deal because now you have to stay with the same team forever. But then the St. Louis Union association association team moves into the National League now.

[B]

Fucking.

[A]

And he's blacklisted.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So he goes east and gets work as an umpire in exhibition.

[B]

Wow. That's the next move.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all he has left. That's all he's got to be an ump.

[A]

It's fucked up.

[B]

I'll tell you what. I know a couple teams that he probably shouldn't be hoping for.

[A]

He spent the next month begging owners of National League teams to take the players off the blacklist so St. Louis could actually field a decent team. And in mid April, they finally agreed and Charlie was back on the Maroon moons.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

He was named opening day pitcher, which means he's the best pitcher on the team. And won three to two. And a month later, he beat Radbourne in a game. Charlie was just better than him. But then a week later, he lost to Radbourn.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The team wasn't as good in the new league. And then in a game in Chicago, he was pitching. Maroons are winning one to nothing in the ninth. And Shelley threw a pitch and his arm gave out. The Boston Herald reported his. Reported a season might be over and suggested that changing teams, quote, might cure him. That's. I don't know.

[B]

God damn idiots.

[A]

Maybe another team. But my arm hurts from throwing.

[B]

What your arm needs is a change of scenery.

[A]

No, the arm hurts when I move.

[B]

It for the Maroons.

[A]

Yeah. No, I think. I just think in general, like, if I go home and I'm trying to put on a shirt, it hurts because.

[B]

You'Re still a maroon.

[A]

I don't think that's the thing.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's the problem. You're a maroon and then you're trying to put on a shirt because you're still a maroon. Now, I would love to see what would happen if you change teams and then you changed your shirt. Now that'd be very interesting just to take it out of the thought experiment realm and see that. Because a lot of guys, when they switch teams, their arms heal.

[A]

That's absolutely not.

[B]

So there's a long list that's. There's a lot of people who. That's worked for.

[A]

Name One.

[B]

White McManion.

[A]

White. McMannion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, another.

[B]

Curly Rasputin.

[A]

Okay, name another.

[B]

Well, I keep. I'm gonna keep.

[A]

Name another.

[B]

Alan Baseballman.

[A]

Okay, one more.

[B]

You need one more for me to tell you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hippo. Hippo, yeah. The guy who every time he throws a ball, his pants fall down.

[A]

God, I wanna. I wanna watch that game.

[B]

Yeah. Coming to the mound, he just created.

[A]

A Savannah Banana player.

[B]

He's pants are dead again. Hippo pulls him up. Can't believe that his pants fell down again. Checking the count. Tosses another ball as pants are down again. He's really having trouble getting them on today. Every pitch, they're dropping full count. Hippo's about to toss. Here we are. Cross the plate. Yo. Foul. Hippo's pants are down. I gotta keep this one going. Hippo's got his pants back up again. Shakes off the first, shakes off the second. He likes what he sees.

[A]

Third. Here we are.

[B]

Hippo tosses another foul ball. Hippo's pants are obviously. I'll tell you what, his pants aren't down. Going forward. I'll just please get. His pants are down, obviously.

[A]

Every time. So, yeah, his pants like saying his arm goes forward. It's the same thing. It's happening every time you stop saying it.

[B]

Still a full count.

[A]

I just stopped talking completely.

[B]

Bottom of the 70. That's the third hippo tosses. It happened again. His pants are. His pants are down.

[A]

That's the end of the game.

[B]

No, that would make no sense.

[A]

Thanks for coming.

[B]

Now, I could see this at bat. Last thing quite a while longer.

[A]

It's just. It's the thing you do.

[B]

Repetition can create comedy sometimes.

[A]

So he definitely.

[B]

3. I say rule of 30.

[A]

Other times, not. And then he definitely.

[B]

Hippo's pants are again down.

[A]

He definitely.

[B]

Ben over a Spocker split. We're seeing hole.

[A]

This isn't one of those cases.

[B]

Hippo is really. His pants are off. He's making an interesting choice to now pitch bottomless.

[A]

Should I leave?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We got a plenty of time here. Not. It's not real to real anymore.

[A]

So he definitely has something wrong with his arm. And they dropped him down to the number two pitcher.

[B]

Wow, that's good. He's on ir, right?

[A]

And then the team did sign a third pitcher.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

On August 13th, Buffalo crushed Charlie, getting 23.

[B]

Jesus Christ. What? Like a stampede.

[A]

Yeah. 23 hits and 14 runs. That's a lot.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

The team crashed out. They went 2 and 20 and were in last place. Despite the injury, he just kept pitching. And then after the season, so much.

[B]

Of this right back then when they're just like, oh, yeah, you got to fight your way through it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Doctors are telling us that your arm will heal if you hurt it more.

[A]

I mean, it seems like at this point, you just have any player coming in pitching to be better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. So after the season, they go right into exhibition games, and he really doesn't start playing until November. First, the arm pain, the losing. And then, of course, his increasing drinking made him a surly character.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

The local papers are now reporting that he drank too much, as he had in Providence, they said. So he wrote to the St. Louis Dispatch to deny a story of him being drunk during a game when he was with the Grays. And also a Boston story, which he kind of half copped to, and he said he'd never drink again. And the Providence star responded, quote, was it Sweeney's sore arm that made him walk up Manchester street in the midst of a heavy rainstorm with no umbrella, taking off his hat to everyone he met? It was too Much crooked of the arm. Not the soreness, Charlie. Hey, I want to see that.

[B]

Ah, every part of that's awesome. You can't lose a word there.

[A]

Hello, ma'. Am.

[B]

Yeah, how are you?

[A]

Just.

[B]

Christ, we're in a hurricane. Everybody doing over here?

[A]

Oh, good. My lady.

[B]

Oh, my God. Get home. They're saying that this is gonna top both telephone lines.

[A]

Well, hello, Mr. Telephone Line.

[B]

Jesus Christ. Sir, I'm a man. Get home.

[A]

Good day.

[B]

Man, do you need an umbrella?

[A]

I need another drink.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

God wishes. Whiskey. The St. Louis Dispatch reported that during a gave game of poker at a saloon, Charlie and the captain of the team got into a drunken shouting match. It was mostly.

[B]

You can't bet your arm. I sure as hell can.

[A]

Well, then why is it on the table?

[B]

It's because. God damn it, Charlie, you know you came for the last time.

[A]

It looks like you're betting two arms.

[B]

All right. As a matter of fact, I raise you an arm.

[A]

There we are, all in.

[B]

Oh, Christ. He's laying on the table.

[A]

I bet myself the captain was accusing Charlie of spreading rumors about him. Charlie, quote, you can afford to talk that way. You're. The captain can talk to me in that style when I'm sober.

[B]

What? He said, okay, yeah, I'm too drunk to be yelled at. How about that?

[A]

Yeah, Y.

[B]

Me, I ain't ever going to remember this. How about that?

[A]

The captain said he could lick him drunk or sober. So I think he's saying, like, you wouldn't dare do that when I'm sober because they'll kick your ass.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Get her done, I think is what they say.

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I think legally that's not cleared.

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Well, the other one's 100 and $500 a month. That's got to be the one.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

No, because I licked it a bunch of times and you. Every time.

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[B]

It's illegible.

[A]

Okay. What? It looks like a picture of a. A donut and a tiger.

[B]

Yeah. Tell everybody we gotta figure this out.

[A]

Siri thought Sweeney was joking. And he laughingly said, you let me get up, won't you?

[B]

Siri on your phone was like, yes, sir.

[A]

You let me get up, Siri. Siri thinks he's joking. He's like, so you let me stand up to do that right as he took off his coat, and without another word, the two sailed to each other and for about 20 minutes were fighting give and take on the floor, on the tables and chair, and all around the saloon.

[B]

Do you know how long? 20 minutes.

[A]

I mean, they must have rested. Like, you can't just punch for two minutes.

[B]

All right, well, are you guys done?

[A]

No, no.

[B]

I'm still gonna kick this butcher's ass.

[A]

When both were finally covered with blood, it was too much for the spectators and they interfered just as two policemen.

[B]

Waiting 20 minutes to step in. All right, now hold on a minute.

[A]

But that's like.

[B]

This has gone on long enough.

[A]

But remember, boxing matches back then were like.

[B]

Oh, like 31 rounds.

[A]

Yeah, just nightmare.

[B]

Day four.

[A]

The next night, Charlie's out again and he sees Siri and he walks up and puts out his hand to shake.

[B]

Did he say, hey, Siri. Damn it.

[A]

They put it. He come on here, right here, buddy. And then Charlie sucker punched him when he, when he went to shake his hand.

[B]

Should have seen that coming.

[A]

When Charlie returned home to California, he had his arm in a sling. It was a bad season. He had gone 11 and 21 with a 3.93 ERA and a.206 batting average. And reporters were already writing when he was a shadow of his former self on the mound. Okay, so the next season he's back in St. Louis and he's making 3,000 a year, which is a lot for them. So funny, after the two night. After the two night fight with Siri Sweeney was now, is it good that.

[B]

3000 a year is starting to sound kind of closer and closer to what average is for?

[A]

I mean, it's very, it's very close to what we make now. Yeah. Is that what you're saying?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

99,000.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So back then you didn't. Yeah, you didn't. You, you were expected to get a job in the off season. So he's a guy who doesn't have to, right? Yeah, right.

[B]

In America, he would.

[A]

After the two night fight with Siri, Sweeney was now a polarizing player on the team. In mid May, he was walking home from the ballpark after game when five men attacked and assaulted him.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Some thought the attackers were friends of Siri and that they were also after other players on the team who were on Charlie's side. So then after this, Charlie was given a permit to carry a gun by the mayor.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

That's how you want to do it? So there's a really, really drunk guy in your town. Give Him a gun? Yeah, let him carry a gun.

[B]

Put ice on his chest and let's go.

[A]

Jerry Denny, Tom Dolan and Charlie, all teammates, began drinking heavily together. There stories of drunk Charlie pulling his gun on people who annoyed him. Began.

[B]

Shut the up.

[A]

Hey, what about this? You Charlie?

[B]

I just.

[A]

I got a permit.

[B]

I said, great game.

[A]

Say it again. Son of a.

[B]

Great game.

[A]

All right, get out of here. On June 12, Charlie pitched against Detroit.

[B]

There's another sick kid here who wants to say hi to you.

[A]

I will him in the head.

[B]

You're my favorite baseball player.

[A]

Oh, God. Oh, I want to do it. All right, kid.

[B]

Get out of here. All right, just six more. Charlie.

[A]

I need a second gun.

[B]

Okie dokie.

[A]

He pitches against Detroit. He gives up 21 runs. Seven were home runs. This was the most hrs ever give it up in a game by one pitcher. And it remains a record to this day.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

How many? Seven. Seven Hrs and by one pitcher.

[B]

That's. That's never happened before.

[A]

There's been a lot of sixes in. In the major leagues, but I looked it up. I think it's still the record. Yeah.

[B]

Wow. I would imagine that has been broken. All right.

[A]

After an east coast trip, Charlie came into the locker room to find a sign on his dressing area that read, quote, charles dead, I'm Sweeney.

[B]

Oh, fuck. Put this up there. You did Charlie before the game. Ah, that is pretty funny.

[A]

Fuck me. Only this and nothing more is what it said. The next day, Dolan, Tom Dolan, found a sign on his locker that said, quote, Thomas Ham Fat Dolan. Only this and nothing more.

[B]

That's a great nickname. Who came up with that? That's Merch. If anyone calls me Thom again, you're in trouble. I'm now known as Ham Fat.

[A]

The next day, during a game while they were on the field, they started calling each other Ham Fat and Dead Arm. There we are. And kept taunting each other, calling out each other's recent bad games.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then the next day, they were practicing and they start going at it again. And Charlie said they should go to the cellar under the clubhouse and work this out. Out.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They did.

[B]

What the hell just happened?

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

I mean that things were going okay.

[A]

Well, yeah, but then they call. But then they Fight Club. Someone put a name on his locker, so it's all over.

[B]

Fight Club.

[A]

So they go down there, all the teammates, and the groundskeeper is watching, and.

[B]

They got Crouch Keeper. You mind if I watch you guys?

[A]

Like, can I get into this? I'm taking Bets.

[B]

Hold on. Before you guys do this, let me wipe the floor down. Could be better.

[A]

So they get. So they fight and then the manager finally comes down and breaks it up. The Sporting News reported. Quote, the saddest part was that the writing on their dressing cases was the act of a practical joker, not each other.

[B]

Wow. I'm not surprised.

[A]

No, I'm not either. Idiot. They're drunk.

[B]

Idiots. They just drunk more. Right?

[A]

Charlie and Dolan were fined $50 and suspended.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Later that week, Charlie was drinking at 2am and became upset that the bartender was closing down because he didn't want to go.

[B]

Go.

[A]

So other patrons helped push Charlie out the door. Quote, he drew the revolver and made an attack on the front door. Some climbed over the counter and hid under the pop bottles and kegs. Others jumped behind the posts. Others made their escape through the windows in the rear. A few scrambled under the table. Sweeney emptied his revolver and then reloaded it and emptied it again.

[B]

Wow. Reload.

[A]

He fired 15.

[B]

Don't worry, he's out of bullets.

[A]

15 shots. What? And then the cops arrived.

[B]

Hi, guys.

[A]

Hey, what's up? Quote, in the coolest manner possible, he put his revolver in his pocket, laughed, and walked away.

[B]

I think I have had too much.

[A]

I mean, look, fellas, if you got here when I was actually shooting, you could arrest me.

[B]

I think I should go home.

[A]

I'm done here.

[B]

You know what? I'm drunk.

[A]

Great night, boys.

[B]

Hey, I was awesome. What a really good night.

[A]

There's nothing in that article.

[B]

There's a bunch of bullet holes in here.

[A]

There's nothing in that article about him being charged. He just walked away?

[B]

No.

[A]

Both he and Dolan were then cut from the team a couple days later. At this point, Charlie had a 5 and 6 record in a Force 4.16 ERA. But the papers reported three teams wanted him as a player, slash manager, and two want him just as a player.

[B]

Player. Crazy.

[A]

Yeah, but the owner wasn't completely done with Charlie. He just didn't want him to pitch anymore. So we offered him a new contract as an outfielder for the same amount.

[B]

You're the mascot.

[A]

You are going to be great.

[B]

Why? Because he just still has some skill.

[A]

Yeah, he can still hit.

[B]

Okay. Oh, right.

[A]

And. But that. But Charlie wants to be a pitcher. So he leaves the team and he signs with Syracuse. And he pitched two games in July, got absolutely crushed in both. Played one game as an outfielder and then headed back to California.

[B]

Okay. It's a good move.

[A]

So he's thinking, just rest the arm at this Point.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So he shuts down until January and then he starts playing again, but now at first base. And the manager of the Cleveland Blues was told he was playing well and quickly signed Charlie to play first base for the 1887 season.

[B]

It really is amazing back then, I guess, how long you could actually play if you became once you were good, you just lived off the fat of that for as long as possible. Yeah, but you got like a lot.

[A]

Of years out of it. Yeah, he was the number three hitter on the team, but the team was absolute started 3 and 13. And the manager's desperate so he asks Charlie to pitch.

[B]

It would be a dream.

[A]

And the papers make a really big deal about it. It because it's Charlie coming back to pitch. So he could have just done this as a PR move to get people to come to the stadium instead of him actually being able to pitch.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But he does keep the game close and they only lose by a run. So he did good. And then after the game, Charlie renegotiates his contract so he would be paid extra for pitching.

[B]

Okay, a bump.

[A]

Yeah. And he pitched a week later and had quote, neither speed nor curve and was wild besides.

[B]

But other than that, good. Pretty good game. I mean he threw it fairly good outing.

[A]

He gave up 20, 50 bucks. He just give 25 hits in 13 runs.

[B]

Oh, ouchy.

[A]

A week later he gave up 23 hits and 18 runs. But he's still a good hitter. He's hitting.378, so it just happens.

[B]

But he can't hit 13 runs.

[A]

So they put him in the outfield. And on July 9, the field was wet after a thunderstorm. For some reason they had him play shortstop. And they're ahead in the seventh and he makes a terrible error that lets three run score. And then the next day they just cut him from the team.

[B]

Three run errors, bad.

[A]

That's horrendous. Once again he's just there like I.

[B]

Literally don't think the ball's anywhere around here. How do they world find it?

[A]

So once again he goes back to California. Rest up, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The next spring he joins a team in Stockton. That's low.

[B]

That's not.

[A]

That's not. You never want to join a team in Stockton.

[B]

It's over with the Stockton wise the.

[A]

They played games on Sundays and holidays. And on this team, Charlie is shortstop. Okay, Stockton wins the pennant. And for winter baseball he signed to play with the Knickerbockers. Now off the field, Charlie and his buddy James McDonald ran a drinking gathering place called the Battery in San Francisco.

[B]

Great. Good.

[A]

At first it was successful. Then it starts to fall off, and then it eventually closes. McDonald is a longtime baseball player who had become an umpire. And Charlie marries McDonald's sister Jenny. They have at least one kid. It's a boy, but there's no really record about him. Him. Oh, and Charlie also works as a cop. I think it. It's. He sounds like the kind of temperament you would want as a cop.

[B]

You're out of your mind. You carry a gun that you use too much. You're drinking a ton. You're exactly what we need on the force.

[A]

But not for long, because he was.

[B]

Fired from being a cop.

[A]

I didn't. I couldn't find any.

[B]

I'll tell you what we're big pieces of. But you are a dirt bag, my friend. Get out of here.

[A]

Crazy what you're doing. Doing. So he turns to bartending. He also worked as a bodyguard for a gambler promoter in San Francisco named King McAnis. Okay, this is not, probably not the best world for Charlie to get involved in at this point.

[B]

It seems like he doesn't have addictive personality or anything.

[A]

On July 5, 1894, he's hanging out with Khan Gasoon McManus. So I'm gonna call him Gusun Gossen. G O S S O O N. Gasoon. Gasoon. And so they're good friends, him and Gasoon. And the Kasoon was King's younger brother. And they are drinking together when the Gazoon says something that pisses off Charlie. And they start arguing.

[B]

This is what you want from your bodyguard.

[A]

And then maybe punches were thrown. And then Charlie whips out his pistol.

[B]

Jesus. Take the gun away from this guy.

[A]

And shoots the cocoon three times. Oh, crikey. One bullet went into his.

[B]

Stop resisting.

[A]

One bullet in his liver. So Charlie grabbed the bat of a patron, put it on his head, and ran down the street.

[B]

Put it on his head.

[A]

That part I don't know.

[B]

Okay, I'm a helicopter. I'm a helicopter.

[A]

He went home and he tells his wife what he's done. And then he went and he turned.

[B]

That was the night out.

[A]

I, I.

[B]

Before you say anything, I have to confess something.

[A]

Uhhuh.

[B]

I had to make two suppers. Oh, because the first one. No, because they burned the first one.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So I've had a pretty hectic night. Plus, I don't know, just been one of those days. You ever have a day when you're in a bad mood? I don't know.

[A]

I ran around.

[B]

You should probably have a drink.

[A]

I ran around with a bat on my head.

[B]

Why, hun?

[A]

Well, I shot a guy, and then I was just feeling weird about it, so I put a bat on my head and ran around.

[B]

By the way, the carrots have honey on them. Would you say he committed a murder?

[A]

Yeah, Murder guy, man ran around with the bat on my head.

[B]

Come here, you little devil.

[A]

So he turns himself in, the Gason dies the next day. And the San Francisco headline was, quote, three shots at a bully.

[B]

At a bully?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They're calling G is a She's a mobster type fella.

[B]

All right.

[A]

But the article said, quote, both men were considerably intoxicated.

[B]

Well, unfortunately, no judge can find him guilty because he was drunk when he did it.

[A]

As my. My buddy in college, Jesse Aguilar, used to say, I am not responsible for what I do on tequila.

[B]

That's just one of those things where you're like, hey, yeah, you are.

[A]

Yeah, he would say that before he drank. I still.

[B]

Then guess what?

[A]

We would get tequila and he'd be like, all right, boys, you ready? I'm not responsible for what I do.

[B]

Do it to kill it, then don't have it.

[A]

He was right, though. He wasn't.

[B]

But that's why you're like. That's why you don't drink that.

[A]

He's a teacher now.

[B]

Oh, me.

[A]

The paper also reported the Gasoon punched Charlie first. So that's why they called him a bully.

[B]

By the way, this is. This truly is ice. Like, exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what's you allowed to do?

[A]

I mean, based on the story I've read, I'm sure Charlie just shot him.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

And then. And then he reached into his pocket for a gun. So Charlie was. Was justified in shooting him. Basically.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

There were only two witnesses, one of whom was the bartender, the other was Charlie, and it's that. It's at King's Bar. So a coroner's inquest said it was murder and Charlie was arrested and held without bail until trial, which came three months later.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The prosecution said Charlie was a drunken hothead.

[B]

On what grounds?

[A]

I don't see any. There's no. There's nothing in the story I. I've. I've read that would justify. No. Did you once just shit up a bar because they ask you to leave?

[B]

My client will not be answering that question. That is an absurd question. Who amongst us has not been at a bar inebriated when they told you that liquor was done for the night? And who walks amongst us who has not pulled Out a revolver that they loaded two to three times to send the message that they were unhappy. I mean, this is not.

[A]

I have actually not done that. I've not done that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I've not done that.

[B]

Well, Jesus is here. Jesus, ladies and gentlemen. Everyone else has done that. No, amongst us hasn't murdered a man.

[A]

I haven't. No. I have not murdered a man.

[B]

We've all done it. Nope, everyone's done it.

[A]

It is your. Is your defense that everybody kills drunkenly?

[B]

I need a moment with my client. Hey. So we're going to need to rethink a tremendous amount of this. This guy's unbelievable. I didn't realize we were up against the shark here. He's poking holes on a lot of stuff. We're saying. One second. Yeah. No. So. Yeah, all right. The Gason had a bomb. Okay.

[A]

All right. Guilty.

[B]

I thought you were the lawyer.

[A]

I'm all of it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So Charlie said it's self defense. Right. The gas is over 6ft tall and 220 pounds. Because this involved the gambling gangster world. There were accusations of perjury and witness intimidation. Charlie's main witness switched his testimony when he got on the stand and said the complete opposite of what he told police.

[B]

Yeah, I guess you're right. He did do it that way. What the. Yeah, all right. You're right. It was that way.

[A]

Newspapers had.

[B]

I guess he wasn't allowed to do it.

[A]

Newspapers in the city had completely different. They're reporting completely different versions of what happened at the trial.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Some reporters said that King McManus perjured himself, but at the end of the day, Charlene shot and killed a man who did not have a gun. The jury did take a long time to reach a verdict, but when they did, it was guilty of voluntary manslaughter. Super voluntary.

[B]

I mean, that is. Yeah, I would. No, because it's not premeditated.

[A]

I think so. Yeah. Like a bar fight on the.

[B]

On the fly. Murder. It's like, look. But you didn't plan on doing it.

[A]

No.

[B]

That's why you're. Okay.

[A]

I did not.

[B]

So crazy.

[A]

The jury only gave Charlie eight years, which was much less than the maximum. And he could get out in five if he was a good boy. Wow. They had many. He had many friends who continually pushed the governor and parole board to release him. He was at the time one of the most famous, if not the most famous baseball player from California.

[B]

You. Well, still.

[A]

Nah. If you're a sports guy, you get away with it.

[B]

We can't keep him in the bullpen.

[A]

Get him out, love. He plays sports. King McManus died of dropsy in 1896.

[B]

Yeah, what's that one again?

[A]

You fall down a lot, sir? The Pearl Board had recommended Charlie be given parole six months before and with. With King dead governor, California James Bud then pardoned Charlie.

[B]

What does that have to do with anything?

[A]

Well, because McManus is like a rich guy, mobster guy in San Francisco. So you just. You don't want. Oh, you just don't want him to be on the bad. Your bad side.

[B]

Okay. Still, it's crazy, but okay.

[A]

The reason he gave was that the governor gave was that the trial had been a circus. So Charlie is released from prison on from san Quentin on March 1, 1898. And he quickly got work as an umpire in the California League.

[B]

I mean, I just.

[A]

That's what you want to umpire?

[B]

I don't know if I would be comfortable listening to the calls of A, murderer and B, arguing the calls with a man who's.

[A]

Hey, fellas, I'm gonna call a fair game. And if any of you such arguing balls and strikes or whatever, I will kill you.

[B]

You mean you're just not allowed to say that.

[A]

I will kill you.

[B]

You're not allowed to say that.

[A]

And after every inning. Shots. We're doing shots.

[B]

You're not allowed to say that. And sir, you are that. You are the legal voice of this game.

[A]

I'm recommending we do some shooting.

[B]

You're not allowed to say that.

[A]

And the seventh inning stretch.

[B]

No, this should just be a baseball game. You are not allowed to say that.

[A]

All right, let's play ball.

[B]

I. I really think that you're out of line.

[A]

Do you want to push this? I just think I will kill you.

[B]

Let's have a good game. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

All right, let's have a good game, boys. In August, he is in Fresno, umpiring a game between the Fresnos and the Santa Cruz San Quentin and the Santa Cruz Sand Crabs. Okay, there's a name for a team right there.

[B]

Absolutely. I text with a girl on the beach once. That's what I get.

[A]

But he made the correct call at the end of the game, which led to the Sand Crabs winning.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Later, in front of the hotel, he was surrounded by Fresno fans and players. And the Fresno's catcher, Mangarina, insults Charlie. So Charlie slapped his face as the most insulting thing you can do.

[B]

Slapping is tough.

[A]

It's really the worst thing you do to another man.

[B]

Ow.

[A]

Like a punch is like a punch aggressive.

[B]

It's not great.

[A]

Slapping is just.

[B]

Slap is just like. Like, I'm so confident I can win this. I want to just. I want you to turn your head back right away. So can you imagine the f. You know that like when someone used to take a glove off and like, just you imagine the first time that happened, people like, oh, what the. Takes it off finger by finger. Like the is this guy doing now?

[A]

Charlie said, quote, if you were not so small, I would lick you good. Did. And then he offered to fight anyone in the crowd, and no one took him up on it. The Fresno team lawyer then swore out a warrant for Charlie's arrest. Sorry, manager.

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

Fresno team manager then swore to warrant for Charlie's arrest. And a telegraph account of the moment exaggerated and said he'd punched the catcher and just dropped him. So as bale has said at 250, which is insane amount for back then.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But a wealthy man in Fresno paid the bail money. And so Charlie took a train home with the Santa Cruz team.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

The SF Bulletin quote on the way. The deplorable and unsportsmanlike behavior of the Fresno manager was freely discussed.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

About 90 minutes in, as Charlie was sleeping, he was woken by a constable and told Fresno though had ordered him he. Him be arrested for jumping bail.

[B]

What about morning on the train, even.

[A]

Though he didn't jump bail.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Yeah. So they take him off. They didn't let him get dressed on the train. They let him get dressed in a saloon after they took him off.

[B]

Right. Because saloons used to be. That's where you courts.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And since there is how many are in your party? We're actually a trial man.

[A]

And since. Since they're in a saloon and the constable's nice, they start hanging out and drinking.

[B]

Just the by the way. All right.

[A]

Better time.

[B]

Let's talk about going back to it. The downside is obvious, but I think we're at the point where, yeah, we. We can do this.

[A]

We can do this.

[B]

Yeah, we.

[A]

We.

[B]

We've basically stripped everything.

[A]

Yeah, let's just do this stuff.

[B]

Let's lighten it up a little bit. Let's just not be so rigid about this sort of stuff.

[A]

Stuff. So after a few drinks, the constable decided that Charlie was quote. All right.

[B]

That is so I. I would thrive. I would thrive under a system where if you could get a few drinks in people and hang out and you're having a good time, you're free. Yeah, I mean, I would.

[A]

This is.

[B]

I would. I would be murdering people. I Would be out there just shooting whoever I want. Just be like, I'll tell you what, man. I. I really. You are a hell of a guy. This guy's pretty good.

[A]

And so he's like, you know what? Just be in Court at 9am tomorrow and I will see you later.

[B]

You listen to me, you son of a. You just get the court at 9am you got it?

[A]

You're my buddy. This is my buddy.

[B]

Yes. Why did we even bring you.

[A]

So instead, Charlie just ran for it. And he.

[B]

That was my best friend.

[A]

He headed to the town of Tracy on foot and arrived in the morning. And there he talked to a woman in the train depot, and he talked her into getting him approval to ride on a freight train and then headed back to Essex.

[B]

But you're not freight.

[A]

Well, I am now. Have you seen me pitch lately? Kind of freight.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

In November of that year, in the lead up to a local Tenderloin election, Tenderloin is the worst area of San Francisco.

[B]

Right. Okay. It's so funny. Oh. Your Honor, my opponent is a terrible cut.

[A]

Charlie was fiercely supporting the Republican candidate, and then he bumps into an old baseball player friend, also a Republican, but who was supporting the Democratic candidate. And very.

[B]

He's gonna have an issue with that.

[A]

Yes, he is. They met for lunch and soon were in an ugly argument. Quote, Herring says Sweeney has a habit of boxing his friends and did so with him. So Herring says he raised his hands and accidentally hit Charlie. Just, quote, happened to strike him, and then Charlie stormed out in a rage and then came back three hours later with a revolver.

[B]

Okay, I accidentally hit him.

[A]

Yeah, the most.

[B]

So walk through. Well, so he. He was there. And then I was trying to grab the salt, but as I was coming in and my fist was closed and I was trying to grab the salt because I hadn't gotten the salt.

[A]

So you make a fist when you're grabbing something.

[B]

Well, I needed to get it. I. I mean, sometimes. Sometimes, yes. And so I. But what? Because it would be. Oh, I would have opened it. I was trying to just get there as fast as possible. If I had my hand open when I was trying to get it, that's going to slow it down. My soup was getting cold, so I wanted to get it there as fast as possible. So I made a fist to cut through the air friction. And as I. And the salt was next to Charlie because he had used it earlier in the meal for his soup. As a matter of fact, I remember very clearly him saying, this soup needs a little salt. And I said, I'm good. Keep it right next to you. And he said, I'll put it on my shoulder. And I said, okay. So as I was going in to grab the shoulder salt to with again, I'm trying to get there as fast as possible. So my fist, I. I misjudged it by an inch or five. And I just popped him right across the chin, then got the salt. And we had a hell of a laugh about it. So the whole thing. So it's an accidental punch.

[A]

It does not sound like it.

[B]

Yeah, that's what you get for putting salt on your shoulder. I think the real issue here is with the chef. I mean, that that soup is just did a bland. Is he even tasting it?

[A]

Charlie?

[B]

Is he even tasting it?

[A]

Charlie came back three hours later with a gun.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Herring had his back to the door, and Charlie pointed the gun toward Herring's waist and said, quote, take that, you son of a.

[B]

Before he shot.

[A]

Yeah. As he was like at the same. All same time, he's moving in. He's pointing like it is waster area. But someone yelled, here he comes. So Herring turns just as Charlie's like, pressing the gun against his waist. And he's. He's bigger than Charlie. So he knocks his arm aside and then grabs it and holds his arm up.

[B]

Wow. One of those.

[A]

Yeah. So while it's up there, someone grabs the revolver and takes it out of his hand. And then they get separated and a cop comes in. But Herring refuses to make a complaint. And the gun. No one knows the gun is now just vanished.

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

Some guy was like, perfect Herring, quote, I shall not have him arrested. What's the use? These things happen time to time, you.

[B]

Know, For God's sake, it was a lunch.

[A]

And the least said about it, the better.

[B]

I think we just need to move on. Charlie's a good man. Charlie's a good man.

[A]

The next year, Charlie apparently has a saloon.

[B]

Good.

[A]

He's either running it or he's.

[B]

Or drinking it.

[A]

But he's across the street from a Chinese laundry and some boys, including Charlie, Charlie's son, blocked Mr. Tong in his laundry by putting a mattress in front of the door.

[B]

It's a very funny prank, though. I think what we're missing is that it is a funny.

[A]

Hilarious. So Mr. Tong pushed the mattress out of the way and came out swinging a board. Board.

[B]

Another funny bit.

[A]

Very funny. And he hit Charlie's son. So then.

[B]

So when it's. It's a. When you hit a kid with a big thing of wood, it's funny.

[A]

They love it.

[B]

It's a funny bit.

[A]

They love it.

[B]

It's a good thing there's a mattress there. He's got somewhere to fall.

[A]

Thank you. So Charlie comes out and he decks Tong and then kicks him. And he takes the board and he has Tong arrested. So that. That's what Charlie tells the cops. And. And the papers. Tong had a different story. He said that Charlie had owed him 225 for laundry, and when he asked for it, he hit him.

[B]

Who you didn't believe? Who are you gonna believe?

[A]

Well, I'm not gonna believe this Tong fella.

[B]

No Tong.

[A]

Are you kidding me?

[B]

I don't think so. Or Charlie, a man who's only murdered one guy and tried to murder another baseball hero. Yeah.

[A]

In November.

[B]

I don't know who to believe. I mean, Charlie's got one and a half murders in his back pocket, and the other guy's a non white American.

[A]

Charlie did press charges for assault. I don't know. I don't. I feel like the guy had to pay a fine or something. The Chinese guy?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

It's called justice.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So by 1900, Charlie is a widower and he has consumption. And he slowly worsened over time and was hospitalized in February 1902. Two in the, quote, final stages of consumption. And he died April 4 and is buried in Colma, California.

[B]

Well, what. What a shitbig.

[A]

What a shitty drunk.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You could just. I. I wish there were still drunk baseball players. I think it'd be more fun than what it is now. Like, there should be an actual. Like, a drunk league.

[B]

There should. If we have the Savannah Bananas, there's no doubt that we should have a drunk league.

[A]

Yeah, we should have a drunk league. Absolutely. All the sports should have a drunk league.

[B]

I agree. Yeah, I agree. I think also it's. The regular leagues are becoming worse and worse.

[A]

Yeah. They're terrible.

[B]

And I'll go one further.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

These morning debate shows, those should be drunk.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like the. Like, first take should be drunk.

[A]

CNN cocktail hour. What about that? No, that.

[B]

Like Scott Jennings. That would be great.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That. That woman, she has the five. Table of five or something. Something. There's five. No, it's cnn. Five people sitting around.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

[A]

That woman.

[B]

Yeah, Right. I can't remember her name, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Everyone gets four shots.

[B]

Scott Jennings, the one who's just like. Now, come on, look, that guy murdered the ice. Oh, yeah, we know. And everyone's like, you, mother. Like, it's just the Easiest thing, that guy just took the money to be the worst bag ever and just sit there and be a punching bag. And then he's like, hey, yeah, I also have a book. My new book is called I'm a Anus. Please get it. Jesus Christ.

[A]

Sources. St. Louis Dispatch, San Francisco examiner, St. Joseph Daly Press, Courier Journal, San Francisco Chronicle, Providence Star, the Baseball History Daily, and then the. What's it called?

[B]

Called. I don't know what it's called.

[A]

Oh, boy. The Society for American Baseball Research. And the article is by Charles Rainey. Rainey. You want to see him?

[B]

Rainey?

[A]

No. Charlie.

[B]

Oh, yeah, sure. Let's get eyes on this feller. Wow. Okay.

[A]

He looks like a badass.

[B]

Yeah, he does. He looks. He looks like a Daniel Day Lewis character.

[A]

Yeah, he would. You up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That mustache, it's a serious mustache. It's very much a Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Bye. Bye. Hey, what's up, doll heads? This is Gareth Reynolds from the Doll up, the podcast you're listening to. Hey, I've got some very exciting information. If you like movies and you're in the San Jose area. I made a movie. It's called Give it up and it will be at the Cinequest Film Festival. You can go to GiveItUpFilm.com for tickets and information. It'll be March 15th is the main screening, so go to GiveItUpFilm.Com also, if you like stand up comedy. February 4th, I'll be in Spokane. February 5th, Bend, Oregon. Then I'll be in Portland February 6th and February 7th. Three shows that night. Then I'll be at flappers in Burbank, February 21. First, Bakersfield, February 27 for two shows. I will be in Albuquerque, New Mexico, April 19, Tulsa, Oklahoma, April 21, Bricktown Comedy in Oklahoma City, April 22, Dallas, Texas, April 23, Tyler, Texas, April 24. Finally, Houston, April 25. Two shows. Austin at The Great Cap City, April 26, and then San Antonio April 28, and Tucson, April, April 29. Garethreynolds.com for tickets and information. But also if you want to go see my movie and you're in the san Jose area, giveitupfilm.com.