Dr. Josh Axe (2:27)

And if that air is toxic, well, then that's affecting your body. It's affecting your detoxification channels, your liver, your hormones.

Podcast Host/Announcer (2:36)

And so we want to do everything.

Dr. Josh Axe (2:37)

We can to breathe in good Quality air. And today I've brought on my friend Mike Feldstein. He's the founder of Jasper. He is a expert in air quality. And today we're gonna be talking about how to support your respiratory health. We're gonna talk about how to detox your environment, your home, your body, and a whole lot more. Mike, welcome to the show.

Mike Feldstein (3:01)

Yo, thanks for having me, man. And then the intention today because we did a podcast 11 months ago, like almost this week, so that was sort of Air101. And we'll, we'll cover some of that again for the folks who missed out on last year. And then we'll dive into some more deeper nuanced stuff. And there's been so many new discoveries this year that we can jump into.

Dr. Josh Axe (3:23)

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. You know, one thing I'll start off sharing. We were just talking before, before we started filming about I'm in the middle of a move. We ended up moving houses here this week and, and the week before, we and my daughter sleep in a different bedroom. And we actually recently did an allergy test because she's had swollen tonsils. And we've been trying to figure out what's causing this. We thought it must be seasonal allergies. And so finally we went and we did some blood work, which we don't like doing on a five year old, but it was just very minimal in order to find out what seasonal allergies she might have. And when we got the report back, we were really surprised to find out she doesn't have any seasonal allergies. And we thought because we were living between Puerto Rico and Nashville, maybe she didn't build up her immunity to pollen. Maybe that was the issue because she's had these swollen tonsils last spring and last fall. Spring and this fall and. And he comes to find out that she's allergic to only one thing and it's dust mites. And so we went through our entire house and read what do you do for dust mites? And we started steam vacuuming everything. We started clearing it out and then we have three Jasper air filters. We put one in her bedroom and just put them throughout the house, cleaned out the filters. And we've already done this somewhat, but we really did everything we could. And then her symptoms just really started melting away. Now we did some supplements too. We've got this great homeopathic we're using and, and there's actually something called slit therapy, sublingual immunotherapy where you can do these allergy Drops under the tongue. They're completely natural, homeopathic and it will help cure allergies over time by building up a tolerance, which is pretty amazing. But all that being said, you know, we didn't realize like we're regularly cleaning our air filters, our house, there's still a lot of dust and pollen there. But again, we broke out the big guns and the Jasper air filters to help clean out the house. But yeah, dust might work.

Mike Feldstein (5:12)

I'm going to send you guys some new filters. Okay, so get this. Even when you, when, when we see a filter that's completely perfect to the eye, vacuum it, clean it, versus a new filter even. What we actually do is we weigh them. So no matter how thoroughly we clean it, it's always still going to be like a pound or more than another one because it's so deep in the pleats, the particulate that it picks up and the carbon is completely spent after absorbing everything. Typically when we put a new filter in, it's almost doubling the airflow, if not tripling. Wow. So a lot of people look at it, they see two filters. To the human eye that looks clean. But then when you measure the airflow and you weigh the filters, you realize it's a huge different. So a new filter really like when I think about Jasper, I don't think about the machine that you see on the outside, I think about the filter and the machine is just the housing that allows air to move through the filter.

Dr. Josh Axe (6:01)

Yeah. Well, when we're talking about air quality and air filters and we can start here a little bit and get into some other things, but what is the mechanism or the components that are actually purifying the air?

Mike Feldstein (6:14)

Yeah, it's really simple. So. And there's a reason we call Jasper an air scrubber. We've completely moved off purification because it's really not accurate. So I'll start by saying what the difference is between a scrubber and a purifier. It's pretty much the difference between a Yukon Denali and a Honda Civic. They're both cars, they're both vehicles, but one is way bigger. It's designed to take the kids, take the stuff, be safe and look good while doing it. They both have wheels and doors and roofs and GPS systems, but they're completely different class of vehicle. So when I was doing mold remediation, hurricanes, floods, huge disaster cleanup, we would use air scrubbers. So essentially a scrubber is an industrial grade air purifier. So they both fundamentally are the same. There's a mechanical filter, air Passes through, it lets the air through, and it takes out all the dust, The. The dust mites, the mold, the bacteria, the viruses, et cetera. And then there's carbon in there, which absorbs odors and gases and VOCs. So the difference between a scrubber and a purifier, when you see, like a little purifier on the. On the shelf and it says, covers a thousand square feet, purification is only going for an incremental gain of 10 or 20%. They're not really cleaning the air that much. The filter's fine, but it's such a small machine that it's not designed to clean a big room. But with a scrubber, you're trying to get the air 90, 95% cleaner. So you're talking like point 10% cleaner versus 95% cleaner. So when scrubbing, we're just at a completely different class of product.

Dr. Josh Axe (7:49)

Yeah. And carbon for everybody. This is these. Carbon is essentially the compound you're going to find in activated charcoal or activated carbon. Very same thing. Binds to almost everything.

Mike Feldstein (7:58)

Filters water, filters air.

Dr. Josh Axe (7:59)

Yeah. Incredibly beneficial for getting rid of nearly everything in your environment. It's powerful. So, anyways, we've already seen a change in my daughter. Just amazing that quickly when you get air filtration. Right. And get rid of the exposure, and.

Mike Feldstein (8:12)

You only have dust mites if you have dust, and you only have dust if you have not that clean air.

Dr. Josh Axe (8:17)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (8:17)

You should not really have dust.

Podcast Host/Announcer (8:19)

Well, like, even for us.

Dr. Josh Axe (8:20)

So what happened was, is we have an air filter going in her bedroom most of the time. But as we were moving out, we had wallpaper on one of the walls because she wanted this purple dinosaur, you know, wallpaper that she chose. So we had to have them come in right before we moved out and just paint that one wall. Well, we didn't want her sleeping in that room. This is two days before we moved out because the paint fumes. So we ended up just shutting off the door, opening the window, and just leaving it closed off. So she slept in a bedroom that we haven't. We actually just haven't even been in, you know, and so when she went in this bedroom and slept in there, we realized, well, that didn't have air filtration going. That didn't. There was probably a lot of dust in there that accumulated in there. So that's what happened. But anyways, I'm so grateful to have friends like you and also have the background myself to be able to know, hey, here's how we remedy this really quickly. I'll show you something else that's amazing. This slit therapy. I have a friend, his name is Dr. Gavzigoli. He's been on the show and he's been allergic to cats all his life. He's not allergic to cats anymore. So these are really advanced forms of actual, these allergies. Again, it's called slit therapy. And they will take whatever you're allergic to and then they create a homeopathic with it in terms of the exposure. And then you just do a drop under the tongue twice daily. And over the course of 90 days, you'll see a significant improvement. And typically over two years, you're completely cured of whatever you're allergic to. Like, whenever I've done any sort of food panels, I'm always allergic to one thing and almost one thing only, and it's dairy. And so I'm going to actually start doing this myself to see if I can become. I can cure my dairy allergy.

Podcast Host/Announcer (10:01)

But, you know, I guess part of.

Dr. Josh Axe (10:03)

What I wanted to say here is like, there are so many things that people are exposed to that sort of add up on the body. You've got foods you're allergic to. Almost everybody has a few foods they're allergic to. People can be allergic to dust. I know in Nashville and in a lot of areas of the country, people have major seasonal allergies. There's chemicals, there's toxins, there's mold. And oftentimes the body can handle one, two, three of those things. But just all of those things constantly together for most people, just overburdens the system where they just can't deal with it 24 hours a day. And one of the great things about when you can clean your air, get clean air, is you're just removing so much of the burden. And this is really important for people with infections, right? Chronic infections, yeah.

Mike Feldstein (10:45)

I view I changed the word sleep to healing time a few years ago. And it's funny, I get a lot more of it now because the word sleep, like, whether it's an alarm clock or on a product, it turns off the lights, it turns down the fan speed. It's generally like a very dormant state. And as someone who likes to get things done and move, sleep is. Feels dormant, whereas healing time to me feels much more exciting. I can get, like whenever I'm. If I'm sick or if I'm working out, most of my recovery happens overnight during healing time. So, like just reframing that and then starting to turn my bedroom into a sleep sanctuary or a healing sanctuary. It's such a. I find that people generally are really misallocating resources. Like to buy a $2 million home and then have a $2,000 bed in it. Like what was the point of the home in the first place?

Dr. Josh Axe (11:35)

It's true. Give me a $2,000 home with a, you know, $20,000 bed because you have energy every day. That's a good, that's a great point.

Mike Feldstein (11:43)

So like it's so easy, you know, the way the banks work and mortgages and people could justify like a $25,000 bathroom reno because they think it's good for value. I'm like the best value ever is going to be what was your home for in the first place? Roof over your head, you know, clean air, clean water. Just if you and your family can have a world class sleep every night and recover together and then have a nice place to spend time together and breathe easy, see some trees, open some windows, like what is the point of the home? And people get into these couple million dollar homes easily that have so many rooms they don't sit in and bathrooms they don't use and they have cheap beds, bad lighting, poor H Vac and bad water filtration. I'm like spend 1.9 instead of 2 or spend 950,000 instead of a million and put those dollars to work into things that are going to compound positively for your health immediately. It just as an investment situation.

Dr. Josh Axe (12:38)

You know, when Chelsea and I, we had, we've lived in Nashville for years. One year we moved to West Palm beach for about part of the year and then we lived between Nashville and Puerto Rico for up until a year ago, for three years. And we had, we weren't allowed. We owned in Puerto Rico. We rented here and our rental here, we decided to rent it because they had installed, it was a newer home. They had great filtration and they had a whole house water filtration. It was really nice, like a really high upgraded one. And that was part of the reason we chose the neighborhood. And then right now we were working on building a home. It's fun. I was three weeks I was in London speaking and then Ben Greenfield was there. So he just got done building out this amazing compound and he really thought about his air filtration. He really was very thoughtful about their water filtration. He had somebody go through looking for EMFs and so there's almost no EMF signals in the entire house or property. So I was talking to Ben because he was sharing the people he's hiring and working with because we're going to do the very same thing to where it's like if we're going to spend this money building like dream home and farm that we're doing, we really want it to be as pure and clean as possible.

Podcast Host/Announcer (13:45)

Because this, I've known so many people.

Dr. Josh Axe (13:46)

That have gone and built these really nice high end homes and bought them in California and Florida on the beach. And then they have mold. I've seen it with mold probably more than anything.

Mike Feldstein (13:55)

Yes. So a couple things on that. But when you're building a home from scratch, the actual cost differences to build a clean air sanctuary and just a healthy home, no EMFs, like everything that Ben did, it doesn't cost that much more money. I mean Ben built himself a very large compound home. So yes, that's a thing. But generally like the healthy decisions and the better materials, the only cost is thoughtfulness and care. It's just like the H VAC system is the lungs of your home. And a lot of builders, most builders, it's the last thing they even think about. So they're kind of like looking at like the square footage, the plan, maybe the angle that the sun's coming in, but they're really neglecting the materials that they're using. They're really neglecting. What's the, the whole point of the home is for a family to live there happily and comfortably and thrive and you know. Yeah, Ben actually talked about this too. Just if you're going to spend 90 or 95% of your time indoors, you might as well make your home as close to nature as possible. But like thermally comfortable.

Dr. Josh Axe (14:55)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (14:56)

You know, that's really what you want to do. And since the, since 73, really energy crisis, all the building codes have pushed people to build homes tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter. Keep everything trapped in without. And you, you can now very easily have both. You can have great ventilation and clean air. So yeah, I mean if you think.

Dr. Josh Axe (15:15)

About it, so it's like we've, we've, we've allowed this. You know, they've gotten more insulation and got it to where, hey, maybe it's heated and cooled more, cost effectively, but you're also letting less toxins out of your home. I mean the average indoor indoor air quality. And you know this as well as anybody, you've quoted this, you know, significantly.

Podcast Host/Announcer (15:34)

But I mean it's two to five.

Dr. Josh Axe (15:36)

Times more toxic at least.

Mike Feldstein (15:38)

We test in Austin, so everyone who ever buys a Jasper in Austin, we hand deliver it and then we test their home and we take away the packaging. So we're able to. It gets us a lot of reps of how dirty people's air is. And 10 plus times dirtier is very common too.

Dr. Josh Axe (15:52)

Wow.

Mike Feldstein (15:52)

Yeah.

Dr. Josh Axe (15:53)

So your indoor air quality, 10 times more toxic than your than just stepping outside.

Mike Feldstein (15:58)

And so the thing is, actually building homes really tight is fine. The cool thing is you can put something called an ERV or an HRV on your home. Energy recovery ventilator is what most parts of the country need. The really cold places would use a hrv, but erv generally Energy recovery ventilator, what that does is it allows the airflow. It basically works as a fresh in air intake, but you can filter the air on the intake. So let's say it's really bad allergies or wildfire smoke. The cool thing is then your home's getting a lot of fresh air, but it's coming through the path of least resistance because you have a fan there. So the air is coming through because right now the air in your home is coming through attics, cracks, vents, doors. It's just coming through everywhere. But when you have a active fan and you build a tight home, you're controlling the inlet of air and you filter it as it's coming in. So. And then because it has a little core in there, it heats and cools the air to your indoor temperature. So you get the best of both worlds. It doesn't cost much to heat and cool your home and you get a lot of fresh air and that fresh air is filtered. So that one little machine and a little bit of thoughtfulness is going to like. It's transformative.

Dr. Josh Axe (17:06)

Yeah. Yeah. I think more and more people are becoming conscious of this, but not near as many as I thought would be because it's like if you're going to build a new home. Yeah. You obviously don't want to risk having mold. You obviously want to have clean air, you want to have clean water. These things are really important. You know, I had a friend recently reach out. He's an amazing guy, by the way, and he owns a really successful natural health company and he lives in Malibu and he discovered just rampant mold throughout their entire house. And so he's incredibly ill, his wife's incredibly ill. But he said he thinks the thing that made it even worse was he stayed around during the wildfires in the area. So you have all of the smoke and then you have the mold issue on top of that.

Mike Feldstein (17:51)

I went to LA after the fire in February to test a lot of homes. And I'm going to go again this coming February, like a one year anniversary and test soil and test air and see what's going on.

Dr. Josh Axe (18:02)

It's.

Mike Feldstein (18:03)

That fire was really one of a kind. It was kind of like the fire that I did in Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada, in 2016, where thousands of homes burnt. Because the normal playbook for fires is like kitchen fire, dryer venture on a, on a smoke damage situation. We're usually calibrated for tree smoke, a wildfire. But when, when 10,000 homes burn and 10,000 cars burn and 2,000 of those cars were Teslas, what, what happens when you burn 2,000 lithium batteries?

Dr. Josh Axe (18:32)

Oh, it's way more toxic.

Mike Feldstein (18:33)

Yeah. So I'm, I'm. My gut and heart tells me that it's going to be so much worse than people think, because I followed fires before, and even a year, two years later, and then you start tracking the health. It's like the 911 thing, like how many people got sick near ground zero years later? It could, it could be nothing. What LA has for it is those coastal winds really are acting as nature's air filter by taking it all out. But when you have that many cars and chemicals and homes that burn, this is not regular wildfire smoke we're talking about here.

Podcast Host/Announcer (19:05)

That's crazy.

Dr. Josh Axe (19:05)

You know, I recently talked to a, a mold expert and they told me that actually Malibu in particular in that area in California is one of the worst areas for mold in the whole country. And I would have thought the same thing because obviously the humidity is lower in California. And outside of living in Tennessee, the state I've lived in the most outside of where I grew up in Ohio is Florida. I've been my mom, my parents live in Florida, my brother lives in Florida. I went to school in Florida. We've been there a lot. And so there are major mold issues. For people that live in Florida, it's probably the worst state. But I have heard that certain areas of California, like Malibu, are pretty bad. And maybe it's due to when the homes were built or a number of things, or even the way they were built.

Mike Feldstein (19:47)

But Florida's got to be worse.

Dr. Josh Axe (19:48)

Yeah. Oh, I'm sure it's worse.

Mike Feldstein (19:50)

So let's teach people some things.

Dr. Josh Axe (19:51)

Yeah. Yeah, let's do it.

Mike Feldstein (19:53)

So the thing that I have most recently been obsessed over, and it's almost tipped over to like, passionately angry, which is not a state that I typically get in very often. But get this. And I know you talk a lot about fragrances and synthetic fragrances, so I think that there's a good case to be made that synthetic fragrances are the new secondhand smoke.

Dr. Josh Axe (20:16)

Wow. Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (20:17)

So if you think about it.

Dr. Josh Axe (20:18)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (20:19)

In your home, you can control your deodorants and your candles and your materials. But nowadays, basically, everywhere you go, every restaurant, hotel, mall, casino, bathroom. So those are, like, the scents. Now let's think about what scents are. A lot of times there's those little machines pumping chemicals and like, yeah. When you smell that little bit of lemon in the bathroom, news flash, there's no lemons in it. But it also is people's personal care products. It's people's deodorant, colognes, perfumes, all that stuff. So get this from my research. A huge part of the digestive enzymes and acids that get created in your gut, which are preparing for the foods that are about to enter, are due to your olfactory system and your ability to smell. The way fragrances and scents work is they do not remove and neutralize odors. They hijack your olfactory system, so you can't smell things anymore. So let's think about what happens here. So you're. You're sitting beside somebody with some Old Spice or some speed stick, and they got their. So there's some perfume in the air. And now it's lunchtime. Your body cannot detect the foods that you're about to eat.

Dr. Josh Axe (21:33)

Well, it's kind of like. This is a great point, because I don't know how many people listening have done much fasting, but whenever I fast and then when I typically start eating again, and typically it's very pure. It almost always is very pure, but even less processed. It's just like some steamed pears or something like that. It tastes differently. Even then, when you're fasting and your body gets in the purest state it possibly can get, it makes total sense that when you're doing these chemicals that are in the air and impacting your olfactory system, you're immediately. In fact, I have. When you lose your sense of smell, you lose a great portion of your sense of taste. Anybody who's ever had a cold knows that.

Mike Feldstein (22:16)

Yeah. So think about this. So now your body cannot create the right digestive enzymes and acids that you need. So I've. The highest number I've seen is potentially 50% of the gut process in preparation for the food is from your sense of smell. So now those fragrances are there. Your ability to smell is hijacked. Your gut has no idea what's coming in. And now your body can't absorb any of the Nutrients. So it's, it's adding, it's causing people to be fat and to not get the nutrients. And they're already often eating poor quality food anyway. So if your body. So I've been. The good news is, so I always tell people, the one bad part of getting a Jasper is that you can become an air snob. Turns out there's a lot of science behind this. So your ability to smell, like the neurons in your nose, they fully can regenerate in 30 to 60 days. Which is the cool thing about that, is so when people start breathing clean air in their bedrooms, they start becoming very aware of chemicals, odors, fragrances, scents, Ubers, airbnbs hotels. They're like, I'm starting to smell everything. Yeah. Because of that clean air sanctuary that they have at home, because they're breathing in clean air. In that 30 to 60 day window, that olfactory system is firing on all cylinders again. Now they're able to start smelling food. So I've, I never understood why people are having all these transformative experiences beyond just what I would expect from cleaner air. But the clean air is really supporting their gut. And so within that 30 to 60 day window, those that, that their ability to smell is working again. And now all of a sudden that's really improving their digestion, which is something that is brand new to me.

Dr. Josh Axe (23:55)

That's amazing. I mean, it's amazing. It's not something I've really talked about often with anybody because I think that most of the time the way our conventional medical system works is you isolate one area from the body and has nothing else to do with the other body. But there's no doubt that our sense of smell, I mean, your sense of smell is also connected to your brain. It's very deeply connected to our memories, that part of our brain that's tied.

Mike Feldstein (24:19)

To that, how much scent therapy goes on. And that's often why the businesses are using scents in the first place. Sometimes it's to cover things up, but usually it's because they're trying to create some sense of calm, which is doing the total opposite.

Dr. Josh Axe (24:32)

Yeah, well, we all know this. I mean, I think about. So Chelsea and I, it's like, okay, when you're, you know, I think about when I'm smelling fresh grass, it reminds me of spring in Ohio, where I grew up playing soccer as a kid. When I'm smelling food, being grilled, it's reminding me of 4th of July certain years. So, yeah, there is that deep connection there. So when you are smelling chemicals, it's affecting your gut, it's affecting your brain and your emotions. I mean these are two systems for nutrient absorption, for mood that are really being impacted in a pretty significant way. And, and I know quite a few people who now who, I mean they have a very hard time being around anybody that's wearing any type of chemical scent like on an airplane. That's an example. I mean there's, you know, if you sit somebody next to an airplane that uses just a large amount of perfume.

Mike Feldstein (25:24)

Than buying primarily pure in bulk and giving it to people. Because once I was wearing Speedstick for 30 years, I had no idea.

Dr. Josh Axe (25:33)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (25:33)

I never smelt it on myself. Now I literally can smell it like 15ft away.

Dr. Josh Axe (25:37)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (25:38)

Before I even get in the Uber driver I'm like, nah, next one.

Podcast Host/Announcer (25:41)

You know, it's interesting.

Dr. Josh Axe (25:42)

So like when my, when my wife got pregnant with our first daughter and now the same thing happened when she had our second daughter, her sense of smell was greatly heightened.

Mike Feldstein (25:53)

Yes.

Dr. Josh Axe (25:54)

And you think about that because I mean that's a, that's a God given effect that happens. So women can better, you know, smell actually smell a poopy diaper smell. If a child has stay away from garbage.

Mike Feldstein (26:07)

But also think about it's probably also to fine tune to help their digestive system work better and get more nutrients.

Dr. Josh Axe (26:14)

That was my next point exactly. Yeah, I totally agree, totally agree.

Mike Feldstein (26:18)

So you know Satchin Patel.

Dr. Josh Axe (26:19)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (26:20)

So I was sitting with him last week and he was explaining to me these. And I was sitting there with other people who had lost 20, 30, 48 pounds and very little of it was supplements and very little of it was even telling people what to eat. It was simple things about how to eat. And one of those things was don't eat unless you're salivating. And that's what kind of sent me down this rabbit hole.

Dr. Josh Axe (26:42)

Well, by the way, this is why I've told people for a lot of years as some, some other doctors who are experiencing this, don't chew gum. When you're chewing gum, you are, you are actually using up your enzymes that you won't have later for your food. Now again, pregnancy is the one if you're feeling nauseous, actually chewing gum will help you create enzymes that then calms. It actually helps your digestive system then. But for the most part you don't want to chew gum unless you're going to be. Well, you just don't want to chew gum because you're using so much saliva.

Mike Feldstein (27:17)

So I've started to take my food closely and take it deep inhale through my nose and if I have three or four things on my plate, I take 15 seconds for each one where I breathe in deeply through my nose and back out each food item. And I literally just feel the saliva pool up. Like, you know, when you walk you can smell good food at a distance. You, you begin to salivate. So I'm noticing if I'm in an environment where my sense of smell is weaker because it's a overly stimulating environment or I'm outside, I slowly breathe each item of food in and without. This was not intentional, but you instantly feel the saliva get created and then I'm finding myself automatically eat much slower, chew more and eat less. And this was not by design.

Podcast Host/Announcer (28:04)

If you struggle with allergies, poor sleep, or just feeling off at home, you might not realize how much your indoor air quality is to blame. And unfortunately, most air purifiers don't actually clean the air. They filter a few particles, but they miss the mold spores, the VOCs and even wildfire smoke that can trigger inflammation in your body. And that's why I personally use Jasper Air Scrubber in my own home. And I can honestly say the difference is incredible. Jasper's medical grade purification actually scrubs the.

Dr. Josh Axe (28:37)

Air, not just filtering it.

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Dr. Josh Axe (29:15)

Yeah, you know, I'm thinking about anytime Chelsea and I are having a real high quality meal at home or even going out to eat and it's like you sit there and smell like really high quality extra virgin olive oil or you're sitting there smelling the tomato sauce you made. There's something you do, you eat more slowly, you savor it more. And yeah, this is a really, really important part of digestion and breaking foods down. There's no doubt about it. And all this goes back to the conversation around our sense of smell. It's connected to our digestive system, it's connected to our brains and we need to have clean air if we're going to be at our healthiest. Give for me a ranking of where our poorest air quality comes from in our homes that we need to be aware of. Like what are the, you know, is it paint on the walls, chemicals on our floor? Like what are the top five in ranking order that are most toxic for our health?

Mike Feldstein (30:12)

And just to start by saying that your indoor air, people think that of their home. So separately from the outdoor air. Well, if it's summertime or wintertime, turn off your furnace and see how long until your home feels hot or cold, that air is coming in from outside. So your indoor air is not some special safe haven unless you have significant filtration in. So first and foremost, whether it's the rubber from the car, you know, the tires or, or the restaurants or factories or your neighbor's roundup, it could. All that outdoor stuff, the pollen, it all comes inside and it's not a problem outside. Because outside you have nature's air purifier. Sun, wind, rain and trees. So outside we're fine. That's why we don't have a mold problem outside or a dust problem outside. That's why people love to go to the nature. Even if your eyes are closed and you're not visually taking it in, it feels good even going to, you know, I need to go outside and get a breath of fresh air. It's like, news flash, that's not fresh air, that's just regular air, possibly regular city polluted air. It just allows people to remember how bad their indoor air is. So number one, the outside stuff, that's not a problem outside when it has direct UV contact at all times and wind. And I'll also say if you think about moving water, a stream, a pond, a river, a waterfall, moving water is quite clean water. When water stagnates and it becomes a pond, that's when you get the algae and the bacteria and it becomes really sick, contaminated water. Air is the same. So the wind, when you're outside and you feel the wind on your skin, that is the free flowing air currents, they're literally called air currents. It's the river outside. So that's why it's a lot cleaner inside. You have these walls and these doors and these windows in a tight structure. So the average American home is a pond. It's a stagnant pond. So when you go on, you leave for a week and you come back and you're like, it stinks in here. Even if you leave the H Vac system when you're not living in it and opening doors and windows also our bodies just walking through the homes and our pets, we're Constantly stirring the pot and turning it in from a. From a pond to a river. Which is why opening windows is so great, because it allows your home to be part of that natural ecosystem instead of this stagnant pond. So I just want to start with the outside stuff contributes to the inside. Then, yes, indoors homes, it's the home itself, first of all. So it's your floors, it's your carpets, it's your adhesives, it's your paints, it's your furniture. It's the fire retardant in your furniture. Most things in a home were built in a factory. And then supply chains are very efficient. So that that couch or that chair or that mattress, it gets manufactured in a factory, usually overseas. Then it gets really tightly wrapped up, then shipped to a distribution center, sits there for one or two days, and then it's on the way to your home. So there's really no off gassing process that takes place outside. I was actually at someone's house in Beverly Hills. She has a lot of Jaspers. I think 24 of them. It's a big home and they have an entire massive garage that's finished, but basically they have like a holding bay. So when furniture comes in, everything off gases for a couple of months before it makes its way into their home. Most people don't do this.

Dr. Josh Axe (33:33)

Yeah, most people don't have, you know, 24 rooms to have 24 Jaspers.

Mike Feldstein (33:36)

That's. So it was a good reminder for me though of like, wow, you know, this was someone who was really paying attention. So number one, that makes secondhand furniture. I wouldn't buy a secondhand couch or a bed or anything. But hard stuff, wood things. Furniture that is already off gas, especially for a baby's nursery. If you can get that crib secondhand or buy it six months early and leave the windows open to give it some off gassing time. So just like all the furnitures, it's the paints, it's everything. And then because you have no direct sun or wind or anything, things like dust and mold become big problems as well. Now people get. I did mold testing, by the way. I had a mold testing business for about 10 years. Air and mold and all that stuff. So people were sick at home and didn't know why. We'd go in and get to the bottom of it. If we would test someone's home for mold at 9am versus noon versus 7pm the results would be wildly different. Wildly different. So there's this idea that you're checking like a. A fixed thing when you Check your indoor and out. You're always checking the outdoor mold and the indoor at the same time. You're also not supposed to check for mold within two days or so of any amount of rain because you're going to have high levels of mold anyway. Nobody actually does this. So when I used to do air testing, we actually moved it to where we would do air monitoring. So we would leave our systems in there for a week and sometimes even a month because it was not linear. I've always had a hunch that my blood work is probably similar to.

Dr. Josh Axe (35:01)

Listen, it absolutely true. If you didn't, I. If you did a food allergy panel, whether it was IGG or kind of all of the, you know, a lot. A lot of those immunoglobulins you're going to have, it's going to be different every day. A little bit different every day.

Mike Feldstein (35:13)

And like, is that person's H vac system venting a lot right now, or is this stagnant? And it's kind of. It's sad. And it's crazy because once I had tested my first 50 or 60 homes, and I probably even knew even sooner than that, I ended up testing hundreds. The best mold detection system by far is me. It's a human. That's why mold dogs are still the best. Like a human. If you're in touch with your senses and your olfactory health is dialed in, I can walk into a home and smell chemicals, VOCs. I can tell you roughly what the carbon dioxide is in a room. Just like, I don't need a thermometer to go outside and tell me if it's warm or cold. It's like, oh, yeah, you just check the temperature and then tell your brain, am I warm or am I cold? Doesn't work that way.

Dr. Josh Axe (35:56)

Yeah, you know, I mean, people, people. And most people depending, depending on the degree, can tell something like, listen, have you ever been snow skiing? You know, up in the mountains, and you're like. You're like, wow, I'm breathing in fresh air. Like, Chelsea and I, we went to Park City twice this last winter and. And went snow skiing and she went snowboarding. I go snow skiing. And we were both like, wow. Like, this is just amazing. And Nashville itself has great air. It's not like we're living in Mexico City or, you know, L. A in the summer, you know, so it's. But even then, you know, there's. There's a. There's a difference.

Mike Feldstein (36:29)

So to sort of like wrap on the what in what of what indoor is causing the problem. It's a little bit of everything. It's a little bit of everything. And it's just the fact that if you have no sun, no wind, no wind, there's nature is not doing its thing for you. That's why to me, air filtration is a necessity. Like to filter your water and then buy organic and then breathe 11,000 liters of chemical filled air every day. It just makes no sense.

Podcast Host/Announcer (36:56)

Well, there's a lot of homes too.

Dr. Josh Axe (36:58)

Where again, they've used these high VOCs in the paint and then they've got glue in the carpet and with the floor. And then you're using household chemicals. And so it doesn't sound like there's just one thing. It sounds like there's all of these things.

Mike Feldstein (37:10)

It's like your water, right? Like if you test your water, if it's city water, it's always going to be overly chlorinated. If it's well watered, there's going to be a bunch of bacteria. No matter what. You know, unless you're getting straight spring water, there's some filtration that you're going to want to happen. Living in a modern world between the water that you're being provided and how you drink it. And to me, air is the exact same. And so a shocking. And here's another new one that has emerged since last time we spoke. The amount of reviews that are piling up in terms of people who are no longer snoring.

Dr. Josh Axe (37:45)

Oh yeah, it makes total sense. Yeah, yeah.

Mike Feldstein (37:48)

So like it wasn't even on our radar. And then we had a video of someone at a coffee shop. He came up to me, he's like, mike, do you guys ever do testimonial videos? I'm like, guess we can. And he's on the top of our Instagram now. He's also a mic. He had been going for 20 years. Thousands of dollars in testing, meds, allergists, everything. And as soon as they put one Jasper in their home, he hasn't done it since. And then when he travels, it's back. And then more and more reviews have been building up. So we have stories all the time where husband and wife sometimes in their 30s, usually mid to late 30s, it's usually the husband, he starts snoring. Within a couple of months, it's unbearable. So the person you love is stopping your ability to sleep peacefully. A couple months later, we, we have a sleep divorce on our hands. No longer sharing a bedroom. And I think that is the initial crack that can lead to A really rough marriage over a long period of time not sharing a bedroom together. And they put the Jasper in and they put it on Fan Speed 3. And this is big because I, I know a lot of your listeners are already Jasper people. If you already have a Jasper, the most important place it can be by far is your bedroom. Fan speed three. So when we're on fan speed, the first fan speed, we're getting the air twice as clean. Fan speed 2, 5 to 10 times. Once we're in that fan speed 3 range, we're talking 20, 20 to 40 times cleaner air right away. At that level, that's when we have a clean air sanctuary situation. And that's when literally, like over. We can't. I don't have big numbers on it yet. We're going to do a snore study this year. But at least 30% of people who snore either stop snoring or their snoring is 90% reduced to the point where they're sharing a bedroom again. So when we originally I got out of the flood and fire and industry and started creating Jasper, I did not think we would be in the marriage business.

Dr. Josh Axe (39:47)

Well, you know, I used to give this quote that the number one cause of divorce is bills, like financial issues. The number one cause of financial issues are medical bills that pile up. Like in terms of the greatest thing that is causing people to kind of lose all their money. And of course, there's always other cases of other things, but there's no doubt that poor health impacts your finances, which then impacts your marriage, the loop.

Mike Feldstein (40:17)

Because you're sick, so you can't earn.

Dr. Josh Axe (40:18)

That's right. And then you just feel bad. So sometimes you're not as kind to your partner. I mean, yeah, it's a vicious cycle. You know, I was mentioning this. So my daughter, who is allergic to dust mites, she started snoring. I mean, that was one of the things that she started doing. And then these swollen tonsils. And so for her, being able to fix that with her was just, you know, so huge because a lot of times, like I'm putting her to bed at night and she'll wake up in the night because of snoring and not be able to breathe well, and then I'll go and see. So it does affect everybody. I mean, if you have, if you got a family person that's snoring or not sleeping well or sick, it's. It does. It doesn't affect one person, affects everybody.

Mike Feldstein (40:54)

So there's no claim here that says snore Clean air cure snoring. You know, for a lot of people, it's weight and mechanical, but for a lot of people, it is an air issue. And to think that you go and get a CPAP machine, a lot of people, the percentage of people needing them is skyrocketing. So you're buying a machine to force air down your throat, but nowhere in that process do they recommend cleaning your air.

Dr. Josh Axe (41:15)

Well, it's crazy. Now, I will say this. I think there's kind of a. There's a couple things that are important. One, I'm a big fan of mouth tape. I'm also. I'll also say this, though. If you are having issues with breathing because of an allergen that you're breathing in all the time or eating all the time, but more so breathing all the time, putting mouth tape on is not. It just makes it harder for you to breathe. You're getting less oxygen. So if you have an issue like snoring or on a CPAP machine and you've heard about taking mouth tape, you should do that simultaneously while.

Mike Feldstein (41:53)

Same with the nose tape, too.

Dr. Josh Axe (41:55)

Yeah, it's the same with ultra clarifying. Well, let me say this. The nose tape is not blocking your airway. I mean, mouth tape is literally blocking you from breathing in. So anyways, all that being said, we talked to a specialist, seasoned osteopathic physician who specializes in air and seasonal allergies. And she was like, mouth tape is great for a small percentage of the population, but really everybody should be both air filtering and mouth taping together. Because again, if you're just breathing less, but you're also breathing in all of this mold or pollen or things in your home, it can actually make you worse. And so you really want to be able to do both together. What percentage of people do you think, based on you going and testing hundreds of homes or thousands of homes for mold, what percentage of homes do you think have. Have. Have mold in them?

Mike Feldstein (42:46)

That's like 70%. It's as similar as water. Like, mold gets very taboo. But when we test the air outside, always there's a lot of mold outside. It's just not an issue outside because it's breathing. You know, the sandwich only grows mold on it when you put it in the Tupperware box. So to think that you can have an airtight home that doesn't have mold issues, it doesn't work that way. Way. It's like there's no. What percentage of ponds at the side of the road are going to be.

Dr. Josh Axe (43:09)

Clean, don't have Algae in the summer.

Mike Feldstein (43:11)

Yeah, it doesn't work that way. What. What percentage of city tap water is not going to be overly chlorinated? It doesn't work that way. You have to filter the water. So when we test mold, when we test the home indoors, the air. And it's not about visible black mold always. It's like, what is the mold load? What species are there? But whether it's the mold or the VOCs, all of it, no matter what, it's almost impossible. Like having clean indoor air without filtering it. It's almost like an oxymoron. You really can't. It's not possible.

Dr. Josh Axe (43:40)

You know, it makes total sense. It makes total sense. And I think for most people, as you've been sharing, you know, you really want to be conscious of. Again, look at your symptoms. If you're a person with brain fog, if you have stuffy nose whatsoever, if you snore, if you have seasonal, even seasonal allergies. This is contributing autoimmune disease.

Podcast Host/Announcer (44:01)

Gut issues.

Mike Feldstein (44:02)

Just a. It's a big toxin load.

Dr. Josh Axe (44:03)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (44:04)

Like the 8020 of health. Like when you go into a doctor's office, naturopath, whatever, an air filter, a water filter for your drinking water and an air filter for your bedroom gets you. That's the 8020. In my opinion, like most of your toxin burden that's going to really impact you is going to be the air while you sleep and the water that you drink. We can. We can go deeper down the rabbit hole, but that one clean stack can be fixed in the next 24 hours and instantly, like. Yeah, you know, remineralizing water. There's a lot of extra layers in your shower. And we can go deep down the rabbit hole. But breathing with clean air and drinking clean water is the hu. It's the 80, 20.

Dr. Josh Axe (44:39)

Yeah. And I would also say one of the things I've shared with patients is, you know, start where you can. Let's say, for instance, you can't do your whole diet organically. Well, at least switch your meat and dairy. Let's say you can't detox your entire home. Well, let's cleanse the air in your master, whatever bedroom. You need it in your main living area. Those are the two most important areas. And then filter your drinking water, even if you're showering in it.

Mike Feldstein (45:06)

Yes, exactly. At least sleeping air, drinking water.

Dr. Josh Axe (45:09)

That's right.

Mike Feldstein (45:10)

I'd love to tell you about the school, man.

Dr. Josh Axe (45:11)

Yeah, let's do it.

Mike Feldstein (45:12)

So Aria, she's five now. When she was two and a Half. She went to her first school, daycare school, that kind of thing. And she was coming home congested all the time, sick, sick, sick.

Dr. Josh Axe (45:24)

And.

Mike Feldstein (45:26)

They kind of normalized it. They as doctor, online research kind of thing. They're like, yeah, it's normal. Like kids go to school, they get. They're gonna be sick all the time until they're like five or six or seven. They just need to get like every infection first. And my, my dad slash air quality expert spidey senses were ringing loudly because I'm like, she wasn't in bubble wrap. We were, we were traveling, we were doing things. She wasn't getting sick all the time. And I will also note there was a. This is what really got me inspired because there was a study in Finland that was done where they put air purifiers, not even scrubbers like Jasper, but they put air purifiers in 50% of the classes in the schools. And they did a pretty substantial study. And the absentee rates in teachers and students dropped by 30%.

Dr. Josh Axe (46:11)

I mean we need that badly. I will tell you in the Tennessee area where I'm at, when kids go to school when they're younger, I mean every kid is coming back sick constantly and I'm sure the air quality in the rooms is terrible.

Mike Feldstein (46:23)

I switched Aria's school, I put a Jasper in the classroom and she stopped coming home sick like a light. In most schools, if you attempted to design the most unhealthy environment possible, most schools are nailing it. So I heard about that Finland study and that got me pretty inspired. And then there was a school, the school in our neighborhood, which is like a five minute walk away. It's our. It's our little neighborhood school was going to be sold and it was going to be sold to a developer who was going to for sure knock it down and put up like four homes or a plaza. And we're like, you can't have a community without a school. And so we bought the school. So we bought the school about four months ago. We're going to be opening in next August. So it's called Kindling Academy and the mission for the school and it's. We're running as a not for profit. The mission for the school is to create the healthiest school with the healthiest kids in the country.

Dr. Josh Axe (47:13)

Wow.

Mike Feldstein (47:14)

Putting two Jaspers in every class. We have whole building water filtration for their drinking water and their hand washing station. We have not. No toxic cleaning products whatsoever. All the lighting. We found we're still on our last Couple vendors, but a lighting system that matches the intensity of the sun. So if it's a cloudy day versus a sunny day, the light will be the same as outside, basically. So it's all diffused and the light's going to be shifting throughout the course of the day to make going inside and outside as unjarring as possible. The default state for the kids is going to be outside. So we have outdoor classrooms and then we're building a perimeter of screened in porches around the whole school. So even when it's Texas, it's Austin. So if it's too hot, too sunny, whatever, the kids can still be in a fresh air environment. And then we also got a incredible chef. He was going school to school, revamping lunch programs so everything's organic and local. So he cooks for all the kids and teaches them nutrition. And then we're starting with a supper club once a week so the parents can come, we can. And he's also specializes in fire cooking, so.

Dr. Josh Axe (48:20)

Oh wow.

Mike Feldstein (48:21)

So we, we're going to be cooking outside a lot and then we got a 20 person sauna and a couple cold plunges like a communal one. So in the parents it's really, it's a community school. So it's going to start by having 60 children there and it's going to be ages 3 to 9. So like I said, we're running as a not for profit because the reason we're calling it kindling, we're trying to kindle a movement here. So number one, we're going to be working with a couple doctors and scientists on having the highest standard for our data collection for absentee rates and symptoms. Because we want to show that we can get the absentee rate rates down. 50. 50 is my goal. They got it 30 down in Finland with a small air purifier. And without doing all this stuff and without addressing the food situation, I think we're going to get it for 50% or more. And then we're really treating it as a community thing so the parents can, you know, socialize before and after. And then we're going to be putting all the data online. So first of all we're putting the profit and loss statement online, the income statement, because we want to pay the teachers more and we want to show that you can have a school that can be. I think there's a lot of teachers and parents out there who are frustrated but they don't want to go to like full, lonely homeschool life. But like three moms and two teachers could really get together and start a really nice 40 person community school and you could do it in a really healthy way.

Dr. Josh Axe (49:40)

I mean, by the way, I saw the number of homeschoolers is up to like, I mean it's crazy. I mean I want to say Almost it was 5 million or something. I mean it was absolute.

Mike Feldstein (49:48)

I think it's about almost a million in Texas.

Dr. Josh Axe (49:50)

Yeah, yeah. So it's a total of like 5 million nationwide which is like, which is like 10 times what it was like.

Mike Feldstein (49:57)

Just you know, the big north star here is so public schools are funded on attendance which is why they don't want people, they don't want the kids traveling, they don't want you missing school. There's literally truancy laws around it because the schools are funded on attendance. So the big moment here is first of all we're going to get many private schools cleaning their air. I'll tell you what we can do to help anyone out there right now. But if we can show the public school system that we can reduce the absentee rates by 20, 30, 40, 50%, it will be there. The financial incentives will be aligned and then they can't afford not to have clean air, clean water, better lighting, better chemicals. If we can show that the public school system is where we can have a tremendous impact. So we're trying to align the incentives and show them healthy buildings means healthy teachers, healthy students and for them healthy profits. Because you have to align to that, that one thing. And then now anyone, it's very hard to work with public schools but if anyone's listening and their kid is in a private school, especially like a smaller private school that has, you know, 50, 60, 100, 200 kids or so, message me, email us at Jasper and we will give Jaspers to every classroom in the school.

Dr. Josh Axe (51:11)

Wow, that's so kind. I mean, I'll tell you, I mean you are such a generous person. I was speaking in Austin at the Health Optimization Summit this past year and you sent me a Jasper to have in my hotel room while I slept there that night. And so that was incredibly kind and I love what you're doing. It's so amazing. I want to say the last thing here I want to mention is we want to encourage everybody. Get clean air, get clean water, get clean food, do everything you can to support your health in those ways. Those are again, food, air, water, these are things critical for you and your family's health.

Podcast Host/Announcer (51:45)

I do want to say in addition.

Dr. Josh Axe (51:47)

To getting good indoor air, just spend time, more time outside as well. You Know one of the things that we did this year, this past couple years is we invested for our girls. She's almost 2 years old and a 5 year old and we bought a big swing set playset outside and a trampoline.

Mike Feldstein (52:04)

Invested is the right word.

Dr. Josh Axe (52:05)

And our girls spend for the moment they get home. They will spend hours and hours out on the playground, on the playset and on the trampoline. Chelsea and are out there with them. And it was such a good investment. So that's another thing too just a good investment for your, your family's health is things to do outside as a family. Chelsea and I also got by, so it's funny. So Chelsea bought an electric bike, one of these electric bicycles. I bought a regular bicycle. I might have to go electric because we're such a hilly area where we're at. And we got a tandem like for my 5 year old attaches on the back of mine. So like I mean I'm working really hard because my 5 year old's doing nothing and I'm kind of pulling her up these hills. And Chelsea's like when we get up there, she's just cruising. But that's another thing we did. We got bikes. So we've been trying to be really proactive about what are things we can do to get our kids active outside as healthy as possible. Because all the studies on every minute your kid spends on social media on a device is taking from their health, it's robbing them.

Mike Feldstein (53:03)

And no kid outside asks for an iPad.

Dr. Josh Axe (53:05)

That's right. And every minute outside is getting your kids healthier.

Mike Feldstein (53:09)

I think so those I like how you use the word investments. That is fully highly accurate. And then two things I would stack on that that we've done is if you don't have it by trees, which I hope you do, shade. And what we got is a nice outdoor picnic table and then a kid sized picnic table and then we just called dinner picnic.

Dr. Josh Axe (53:29)

Yeah.

Mike Feldstein (53:30)

And they, you know then and we've, we've removed the forcing function to have this. You know my daughters are five and three and we got a little boys four months. This idea of like we all have to sit at the dinner like in the movies and have this like Socratic conversation. They're five and three. So we realized when we sit outside with like picnic tables and toys and we leave the food there and then dinner time is an hour. We got this little thing that covers it in case there's bugs. They play a little, they eat a little, they play a little, they eat a Little and it just, and we hang outside, we're all outside, we got shade, we're eating, we're breathe, we're not having sense in our systems, we're breathing clean air while we eat. Also I forgot to mention it earlier when you were talking about the mouth tape. It's a direct correlation between PM 2.5 which is the particulate that Jasper is gonna filter out the, the particles and the stuff in the air and the inflammation of your airways. So directly has PM 2.5 goes up, oxygen goes down and even if it's half a percent a percentage here and there that really adds up. So the more inflamed, the dirtier the air, the more inflammation. The more inflammation, the less air. The less air, the less oxygen and it's a pretty bad loop which really supports being outside.

Dr. Josh Axe (54:40)

Yeah, absolutely. Listen, the more time outside you can getting good clean air, the more time you can be indoors with clean air the better your health is going to be. And want to thank Mike so much for coming on today and sharing the importance of getting clean air. And by the way I want to encourage you guys if you guys have a school and they're willing to bring in a Jasper, take him up on this offer. Where can people reach out to.

Mike Feldstein (55:03)

It's free. Literally if you just go to Jasper Jasper Co, what you do is you connect us with the school, we won't just send it to you connect us with the school. That way we make sure that they're, they're, they're good for maintenance. If it's a not for profit school we'll give them free filters as well. If it's a for profit school then we'll give them the Jaspers for free with heavily discounted filters. But just basically connect, email us and say hey I'd love to get Jaspers in my kids classroom, in my kid's school. You connect us with the decision maker at the school and we will make that happen. Some schools are like public schools are impossible to deal with. So smaller private schools who get it that are already kind of health focused and the Montessori's and the Waldorfs, those types of schools really get it and they really embrace it. And the reason we're able to do it is it's wild. The school puts in clean air, the kids stop getting sick, the parents start buying them for their home. So literally even from a business perspective there's nothing better we could do. There's no better marketing in the world than just giving your product away. If it works to the People who need it most.

Dr. Josh Axe (56:01)

It's the principle of, you know, just bless others, look at serving others at first, and that's. I love it. It's so. It's so, so good.

Podcast Host/Announcer (56:08)

All right, Mike, so where can people.

Dr. Josh Axe (56:09)

Find out more about you and your incredible air filtration?

Mike Feldstein (56:12)

First and foremost, I hope everybody learned something today, whether it's, you know, opening your window, being outside, and just thinking about the air connection to your gut and to your overall life. Water awareness is so much ahead of air, and my job here is to make people really pay attention to the air that they breathe. So we have a really big special offer for your audience today. And today is October 30th, almost Halloween. Wow. So Jasper is. Jasper. Code axe is $400 off. So it's about a few weeks before Black Friday. For anyone who's listening, last year at Black Friday, we got sold out by four months. So thank you for everybody who waited. But people who bought around Black Friday were waiting till February and March to get their Jaspers. As of today, October 30, we have Jaspers in stock. We ship it out tomorrow. You get in a couple of days. So for anybody out there who wants to try Jasper and have cleaner at home, then the. Your community is going to get the Black Friday offer a month early. So Code Axe, we're going to keep the discount live for two weeks. It'll be $400 off. Actually, we'll just keep it open till the end of November, right through Black Friday. So code axe is $400 off through the month of November, but by November 10th or so will very likely be sold out. So if you don't want to wait and you want to get it this week, Kodak's $400 off. That's the biggest offer we ever have. Our mission is come educate people and then make a good offer. I only. I only buy products often when there's a good deal. So I want to incentivize you guys the same way. And I hope you all learned something today.

Dr. Josh Axe (57:45)

That's great. Well, Mike, thanks so much for coming on, and I wanted to bring you on because this is what we personally use in our house. And I love being able to actually see the particles on there. That's one of the coolest things about your filter. It's about the only one I know where you can actually see what's being, you know, the amount of being filtered at that given time, which is.

Mike Feldstein (58:01)

And it has a lifetime warranty. So I know it's an investment up front, but it's. We call it the last air scrubber you'll ever need to buy. It has a lifetime warranty. If it ever breaks, it's electronics. It might. We send you a brand new one. You take the new one out of the box. You put the old one in the box. We even give you a prepaid shipping label and we pay to have UPS come to your front door or apartment to pick it up. Because if it breaks, that's on us, not on you. So once you bought your Jasper once, for a little over a dollar a day, you have clean air for life, guaranteed.

Dr. Josh Axe (58:27)

That's so amazing. Well, everybody, thanks so much for tuning in here to the Dr. Josh Axe Show. Remember, each and every week we're diving deep into the science and principles of how you can heal physically, mentally and spiritually.

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