Episode #32 Dylan Gemelli Featured in an epic interview on The Kevin Trudeau “Limitless” Podcast! “How to stay young and fit forever” - The Dylan Gemelli Podcast

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Big Pharma definitely doesn't want you to see this. We're gonna be talking about superhuman health. How to live to be 100 with no illness and disease. How, if you're a guy out there, how you can get super big muscles, look lean and have incredible sexual energy, Even if you're 95 years old. How to lose weight? Is that what we're talking about, Trey? Is that all the benefits here? Well, I'll tell you who we have. We have a very special guest. Harvard medical doctor. He won two Nobel Prizes for medicine. Longevity. That's not you, right? You didn't win any Nobel.
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That's not me. And I'm not a Harvard medic. I was like, shit.
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He's like, what? We got the wrong guy. We got the wrong. No, listen. We have an excellent, outstanding expert on health and nutrition who has no credentials whatsoever. And I'm telling you that for a reason. Because when I wrote the book Natural Cures They Don't Want yout to Know about, which sold 50 million copies and was number one in the New York Times bestselling list for 26 weeks in a row, when I was on the Today show with Matt Lauer and Fox News and CNN and everybody else, and I was interviewed and on the front page of the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, everybody said the same thing. What qualifies you, Kevin, to write a book on health? You're not a doctor. And I said, what qualifies me is I traveled the world, I interviewed 5,000 healthcare practitioners, and I have more information than any doctor on the planet when it comes to natural ways to cure and prevent disease. I didn't go to Harvard. I didn't win a Nobel Prize, which means I'm not dialed into the drug companies and only know one therapy. I'm not a chiropractor. I'm not an herbologist. I'm not a homeopath, which means I only know that and nothing else. I have a broad sense. So we have. Dylan Gemelli is a guy who has these great titles which mean nothing. I love this because he has the knowledge. And the reason I'm bringing this out is we always talk about. Who do you listen to? You listen to somebody who has what you want and has been where you are, and it doesn't matter about title. So, John, my producer, said, certified cellular health coach. That means nothing. Okay, Integrated health practitioner. That means nothing. Certified personal trainer. Yeah. Okay, Weight loss specialist. What does that mean? How do you become a weight loss specialist online? I'll send you A certificate. You are now a weight loss specialist, fitness and nutrition expert. Okay? The point is, this guy has knowledge and knowingness on this subject through massive amounts of personal, personal experience and massive amounts of research. In real life, it is in theory, not textbook. Not from a Harvard md. Dylan Gemelli, thank you very much for being with me.
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I appreciate it, man. It's great to be here with you. I've been looking forward to this and I love you.
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When I read all this stuff and I said, this is a guy after my own heart. He's healthy, he knows health, he knows nutrition. So let's just talk about a few things. Right off the giddy up, I talked about longevity, how to live longer, how to up testosterone, how guys can get great muscles and have great sexual health and virility, how women can balance out their hormone, out their hormones, maintain their weight, look beautiful and young until they're 85 years old without cosmetic surgery and things. There's a lot of people out there that use the word biohacking. What is biohacking and is it real?
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So it's one of those polarizing terms because when I first heard it, I was more involved in the bodybuilding and fitness world side of things, kind of the meathead side of things. That was my niche. That's where I found that I could grow the fastest. I got all the followers and everything, but it wasn't who I was. So I see this term biohacking, when I'm at. I was actually Speaking at the Mr. Olympia this year, which was like my culmination, right, because they're taking an influencer to go speak with doctors and everything. And I'm the first quote, unquote influencer who actually really isn't an influencer. But regardless that they put on stage, and while I'm there, I meet people from the biohacking industry. So when I get home, I got Covid. And when I got Covid, instead of pouting I. And wondering, woe is me. Why did this happen? Right after I got all this momentum, I started to dig into the research and. And I said, okay, all these people are biohacking. They're doctors, they're naturopathics, they're t. They're go. They're moving away from standard general practitioners and all that nonsense.
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What does biohacking actually mean? I mean, what does.
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Yes. And that's where I'm going. So that took me into what is this? Because I looked at it like bitcoin. When bitcoin came out, everybody made it so difficult. Biohacking's nothing. All it is in simple terms is, is taking care of yourself, but being self dependent, not being reliant on other people. Is it basic stuff?
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Is it tricks and techniques? We'll call it tricks. Tricks and techniques and methods to stay healthier, live longer and look younger.
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Absolutely.
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But it's. That's what the objective is, right?
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Yes. And it's so simple. People think of it as you got to have millions of dollars, you got to have all these technologies, you got to be Brian Johnson and all these guys that spend all their money figuring out every other therapy. That's not it. Wake up in the morning, go outside and walk. That's biohacking. Literally fixing your diet, eating properly, it's biohacking. Biohacking can be the most simplest, basic thing and it can go to the most intricate thing. What it is, is you take control and you get the real facts. And you don't let people push something down your throat and tell you what it is. You go do the research, you figure it out, you take care of yourself. It's almost like alternative therapy and medication. So what I found is instead of falling into the trap of letting people force feed something right down your throat and tell you this is it and this is how it is, when we know anybody that does that is full of it. This is you just doing some of the most basic things. Finding nature, finding health, implementing your own ways, looking at things then like peptides, alternative therapies that I discuss a lot of and saying to yourself, okay, do I need to take these medications that only, only, only look at treating and not preventing, or do I figure out how to prevent before everything gets started?
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And that's what biohacking is, is the goal, Living longer? Yes.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Absolutely.
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Second goal, looking younger.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, listen, I'm 82 years old, so I mean, I'm working on trying to look as young as I can. So living longer, looking younger and not having any illness and disease, in other words, having strength, virility, if guys be able to get an erection without any issues, without needing Viagra or Cialis or any of these ED medications, have muscles and strength, sleep great. Not getting up in the middle of the night and going to the bathroom nine times. That, that's what, that's the objective, right?
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It's in, in short, it's enhancing and improving your quality of life. And that's long term, it's short term, it's all term. But you summed it up correctly. Yes, and, and it's really not accepting what is supposed to be acceptable? So you know how they just say, well, that's inevitable, that's going to happen, or this is going to happen? No, that's. No, it's not. It doesn't have to. It doesn't have to at all. In fact, in fact, they want a lot of those things to happen to you. And it's. It, whatever you want, it. It all comes down to money and how things are conveyed. We both know this. I'm not going to do all of that. What I am going to say is this. There are plenty of ways to stop things before they start to handle things well in advance, to know what they are and look at different factors. Like, for instance, what I do a lot of is cover blood panels. And we're looking not just at the basics that the doctor gives you that doesn't know what they're talking about because they won't dig deep. They can't. Because they can't go give it to the insurance company. Because you know what happens, Kevin, if you go to your doctor and say, I want to. To check this, this, this and this, a lot of doctors are going to go, well, why do you want to check that? Or we can't do that. And it's like, really, really, why? Well, because if they go send it to the insurance company, you know what happens if they do it too much? They drop them from the insurance so they don't do it. So what I teach people is, hey, you don't need to go to your doctor if your doctor isn't going to do it. You can go here and get your own panels. You come to people like me that looks at micronutrients, that tests for heavy metals, that tests for parasites. These things are real. The doctors come up and they'll tell you, well, you're in range. You might be a fraction of a fraction of a point from being completely out of range and screwed. Or they'll tell you, well, your testosterone falls in range when it's like 250 and you're basically walking around dead. And, and they, they say this is acceptable because they skew the numbers and every lab changes it to whatever the narrative is for that day to fit into however they want it. So they don't like people like me and people like you that come out and question and look at the realities of things and bring different aspects or opportunities for people to take as opposed to that one fit narrative that we know does not exist.
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So there are natural ways to cure and prevent disease and maintain health. I talk about it in my book Natural Cures. We talked about it going for a walk, drinking pure water, eliminating toxins from your diet. When you look at food, what's in it? Is it genetically modified corn? Is it GMO food? Is it food dyes, Chemical additives? Okay, most people actually don't know that that's bad for you and having massive negative effects, but it is. But let's talk about something that is a proactive approach. Controversial and very misunderstood. My friend Suzanne Summers was a big promoter of bioidentical hormones. And when she would promote bioidentical hormone therap. This was before the knowledge of peptides, which are kind of precursors to bioidentical hormone therapy. Talk about that. Because I know this is an area that you've studied ad nauseam and have huge amounts of data and information and knowledge on it.
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Yes. So I am one of the biggest proponents out there of testosterone replacement therapy or hormone replacement therapy, whatever you want to call it. Now, there are, there's positive and negatives that I look at this one. They will, they have for many years tried to put out studies or skew numbers to say that it causes heart problems. And you know, things that we've come to find out now like we have with a lot of other things, like the fat phobias, for example, on fatty foods. That, that is just a complete nutter nonsense. Now I will tell you this because I've been in the steroid world and coached bodybuilders for so long. If you abuse anything and it's not just testosterone, it's anything, yeah, you can get those problems. But when you need a therapeutic dose of exogenous testosterone to improve your quality of life and it's used properly, that can enhance a man's life to the nth degree.
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Tell me, tell me the benefits that happen to a guy who's, who would take testosterone and then I'm going to talk about why you need it. But what are the benefits? So if a person is, has, quote, low t, low testosterone and they start taking a testosterone cream or something to build, what are they going to notice? What, what difference in their life, in their body, are they going to notice so much?
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And this depends on how serious of a hypogonadal condition they have. And for anybody listening, hypogonadal is just what you said, it's a low testosterone. And some people will develop this problem based upon something out of their control. But most in general, it's some sort of lifestyle issue. It could be diet, it could be stress it could be sleep related. It could be use of steroids, for example. Anyway, to answer your question, and this once again depends on the severity, but it's going to go all the way from you're going to lean out because when you have low testosterone, you're going to have an inability to burn fat, for example, you're going to have probably erectile dysfunction, but you will at least have a lower libido, lower desire or sex drive that's going to go right back up. Generally speaking, you're going to have more cognition, less brain fog, you know, less irritability, things of that nature. You'll notice that your cortisol levels will get better because they're going to be bad with low testosterone. And that's kind of stress related too. You're going to sleep better, you're going to have, it's funny because you almost have this euphoric feeling and it's not like a drug euphoric, but it's like, wow, I'm just happy to be alive type of thing because you've been so down for so long. So it can have all of these types of benefits. And of course you're going to have an easier ability to gain muscle. Now, I will just want to one thing, there's this mythical thing out there that if you're taking trt, you're going to be this mass monster. And the only way people can build muscle the size they have is because of that. And that's, that's utter nonsense. Okay. If you are having low testosterone issues, you're going to have an inability to gain muscle. So you're going to look terrible, basically. So when you take it, yes, you're going to get that ability back. So if you're working out and taking care of yourself, yeah, it's at 60, 70 years old, sure, you can build more muscle, but a lot of the reason people can't when they get that age is because they have the issue. So we're just correcting the issue.
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And why do you think men, and we're talking about men here, but I want to talk about women hormone in a second. Why do men have low t, low testosterone levels? And it's, and it's, it's really bad in the US Compared to other countries.
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Yes.
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Why do you think that is?
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A lot of it has to do with diet, honestly. And as you and I both know, the way that our food is handled, I'm not going to get into that right now, if we want to talk about that later. But the, the chemical Spread on the foods, the types of foods that we have, that's causing a problems. And, and then it's just a bad diet, high sugar diets. And I'll tell you what else is a problem, Kevin, for testosterone are not going to want to hear, and I'm sorry, it's a fact is alcohol. And that is a crusher when it comes to testosterone. It can really. And then that's just a fraction of what alcohol does. And I, I used to be the guy that would say, oh, come on, come on. And then I realized after studying and talking to real good doctors, even one drink of alcohol, the poison that it puts into your body, but it wrecks testosterone levels. It absolutely does. So that's a big part of it. And then, you know, high stress, low sleep, these things, not getting enough sunlight, all of these things correlate into low testosterone issues. And then what about soy?
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In America, we consume more soy because soy is put in all of our food as an additive and it's genetically modified soy made by Monsanto, which has all types of problems in the gut. So is the consumption of soy, does that increase estrogen, lowers testosterone as well?
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Certainly can, yes. I don't touch soy. I literally don't touch it. I don't put any clients on it. There's arguments there, of course, because they, you know, they want you to think that it's okay. It's, it's really not. It's something I don't go near nor recommend. And it's certainly. It can have a negative effect. And yes, you start raising estrogen, which it can, it certainly can. You're gonna get the estrogen related side effects that come from that which, you know, water retention, from higher blood pressure will occur, things like that, lower testosterone levels, erectile dysfunction, a lot of brain fog. It's similar to low testosterone symptoms. But the high blood pressure, you could, it's bad. We both know how bad that is. And that's a certain side effect of that too. Soy. Soy is on my list of don't go near. So I am thoroughly in agreement there.
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Now, when a person goes on a bioidentical testosterone therapy, the argument is the testicles will shrink because now the body's not producing any testosterone. Okay, so retort, your retort.
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Sure. There is a possibility that your testicles could shrink. However, you're taking exogenous testosterone, okay? So that is going to allow you to have that output. So let's just say, for example, Kevin, I'm your doctor, you're taking 100 milligrams of testosterone a week, you can expect your testosterone number to be five to seven times that number. So let's say 700. Most people are closer to seven. So you're 700 level, which is so healthy. And so where you want to be longer term because you don't want levels too high either because that can be detrimental. But you have what's called a luteinizing hormone and a follicle stimulating hormone. Okay. These are like youryour basic areas that produce testosterone. Those are going to plummet and crash. They're going to stay there. They're always gonna stay there. So that's what can cause the testicles to shrink. Now, some doctors will put you on HCG to help that you're still going to be producing testosterone. You just may have some testicular shrinkage which is not gonna hurt you in any way, shape or form. It's really a guy thing that they have a concern with. Being concerned that they're gonna shrink into raisins. Like people say is absolutely asinine, that that's a very ra. That's for people abusing steroids generally, but it's not. The HCG can boost it, but you got to understand, like longer term use of HCG2 can increase estrogen. It can. HCG is mimicking luteinizing hormones. So when you mimic something, if you stop taking it, it can therefore be suppressive when you're done because your body forgets to reproduce it if you're taking high amounts. This all comes down to dosing. But that's the answer to the, the, the testicular shrinkage for a lot of people. I've run across some natural testosterone boosters with fadosia agrestis in it that have helped to get more size in the testicles. And, and that's a way that people go if they don't want to take hcg. But there's ways around that. But it's not like it's harming you in any way, shape or form to have that happen. It's not some sort of issue where it's like you can't take testosterone now because you've got some shrinkage. That's not how it is at all. The therapy is helping you.
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And why, why does somebody in their 30s, and I know guys who are in their 30s, 30s taking testosterone. It's like, wait a minute, you should be like 70 years old before you need it. Why is somebody in their 30s not producing enough testosterone to the point where they need to take testosterone externally?
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There's several reasons why? One, social media. Because there's this belief that you have to take that and stay on it to have any sort of muscle gain and to continue to have muscle gain. Two, a lot of vitality clinics you could walk into with a 4 or 5, 600 score. You're not supposed to be able to go in with a score like that and get put on trt, but they can just do whatever the hell they want and they do it to make money and they have no care about it. Three, a lot of these guys that you're talking about, they're using steroids and they're running steroid cycles and when you do that, you are going to be on TRT the rest of your life. And they think in their minds, and I've talked about using steroids too young, that's an entirely different conversation. But when you do that, inevitably you're going to be on trt. You start using steroids that there's no way around it. You're going to be on TRT whether it's early or later.
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And that's testosterone replacement therapy, correct?
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Yes, yes, exactly. So that's one of the big reasons why. But a lot of it is, is because of these social media people that have no clue what they're talking about in any way, shape or form that read something from some meathead bodybuilder, go regurgitate it and then convince everybody it's okay. There's no long term thinking, Kevin. Zero. And I, you know, I piss people off because I tell you I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear. I'm going to tell you what you need to hear. And what you need to hear is the facts on what's going to happen. I'm not getting money or gaining some, something monetary by telling you the truth. It affects me. Zero way I'm gonna sleep fine either way. I'll sleep better knowing I told you the thing that you should do and maybe shouldn't do. But in essence, a lot of it is that. And then a lot of it is. What we've noticed as we've aged is men's levels have just declined. They continuously decline. And I'm, I'm telling you a lot of that is because of the foods that we're eating and consuming. Well, I've seen, I've seen studies and I've, I've watched it with clients I've had telling me what they've been eating and what their diet's been like. Because you know what, a lot of people don't know, something that might be basic to you and I, because we're kind of around it a lot or we study it, is not so basic to everybody else. In terms of the foods, just like you said with the dyes and stuff. How many people in, in reality do you think really look at a food label and go, well, you know, and read it and actually read all the ingredients because sometimes there's 40 and 50 in there and look at it and think, well, it's just a red dye. It's no big deal. They wouldn't know. And, and you know, people don't know what has been sprayed with glyphosate, then they don't even know what the hell that is or what it can cause and how many of our foods have that. And that is affecting not just testosterone, but all of the reasons why you're seeing people have diseases, die young, and not have any clue or understanding of what's going on. And so that's a lot of the problem. I'll keep going back to diet, diet, diet. And some of it is by fault, by lack of understanding, and some of it's not by fault by lack of understanding.
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Let's talk about women because we were talking about men. I want to talk about peptides. We're going to get back to food as well and exercise. We're basically talking about how to live longer, how to look younger, how to make sure you don't have illness and disease, and if you're a man or a woman, how to make your body look spectacular and have massive excellent sexual function as well. Women do. They need peptides or bioidentical hormone replacement therapy.
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Oftentimes what I find is that women that are kind of perimenopause in menopause are kind of just coming out of it. They don't realize a lot of women don't understand, just like a lot of men don't understand. Yes, a woman is estrogen dominant and yes, a man is testosterone dominant, but if I drain my estrogen to nothing, I'm going to have some serious, serious problems. And the same with the woman. If she drains her testosterone or nothing, she's going to have some serious, serious problems. There's a progesterone and a testosterone issue with women and they're kind of in that stage. And I've really made it a point to, to put a lot of focus lately on women in that stage. Right. Because I've been so male dominant and I've shifted a lot of what I do now to women and gotten Way more clients and interaction. And what I see is a can, it's a constant and low testosterone or progesterone issue and, and a combination where they're not coinciding. So women absolutely need to look at testosterone levels. Granted, it's a fraction of what a man needs to be at, but it's so important to balance that. And women lose libido just like a man can with low testosterone. They'll, they'll have this complete like loss of memory or, or find themselves just kind of confused out of nowhere when their testosterone gets too low and they'll think they're forgetting stuff or they'll think, think maybe I'm getting Alzheimer's or maybe this. And in reality it can be just a hormone related problem. But they don't get these checked because a lot of you know this. If you go to a general practitioner, they're general, you see them three minutes. They don't run the proper blood panels. They'll do a basic blood count panel and they'll look at your liver, kidneys and base. Just basic, basic stuff. They don't do all of this in depth. Searching to find the core root problem and then they just put you on, you know, it's either a statin, it's ibuprofen, it's amoxysil. These are the answers to everything, no matter what. Right. So the, the part of it is they just don't get the test done and they don't know. But yes, correcting these problems on a middle aged woman, you know, when, when women are going through menopause and you're going, oh, they're having all these hormonal imbalances and they're up and down. Well, a lot of it could be fixed. Creatine use, for example, is very helpful to women. And it doesn't have to just be testosterone. There's some basic things too. Some, a couple different types of foods or changes in diets that we've noticed. Mockup has helped. But yes, testosterone in women absolutely should. When you start getting in your 40s as a man or woman, you should be checking all of these really, Even.
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In your 30s, hormones, including thyroid. Right. Because a lot of times no one looks at the thyroid. So if you're looking at testosterone replacement therapy, you have to look at the thyroid as well and you have to look at all of the hormones. There's two types of tests that I noticed when I went to some experts. One is obviously the blood test where you get a hormone panel on the blood work, but then There is the saliva test where you have five saliva samples taken in a day at certain intervals and then both of those are compared. What's your experience with that?
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I don't really do a lot with the saliva tests. We generally work with the blood tests. Now I've worked with doctors that do the saliva tests as well. But I generally focus on blood panels. But I do intricate, intricate panels. I do everything is thorough. And let me just throw one at you is cholesterol. Okay. That's one that. We know how controversial that is and I've spent years working with cardiologists on this. But anyway, that's one. If you don't get comprehensive, you're not getting the proper document, the proper results. Right. So if we don't do comprehensive hormonal panels, then we don't really know. One of the key things that. That I run into is that like what you brought up earlier to go back to this really quickly as you asked me, why are people just jumping on TRT and everything like that? Well, they're not. They're. They think if they have a low testosterone number then that's just it. They need trt. They're not looking at the other factors. I can go in and you. If I run your blood panel right now and you say. Let's say your. Your testosterone numbers 250. Very low. Right. But if I'm not analyzing your free testosterone and say, hey, your SHBG is high. If we get this lower, it's going to free up what's bound. Your numbers are going to go back up. We may not even need trt. And that's just one example. There's a multitude of things to look at. Like you brought up the thyroid, for example. But you have to look at all of this shit or you're not going to know if you could be mistreating somebody. And if you mistreat somebody, you could exacerbate a problem or create one that's not even there.
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And what about dhe? This. This is another hormone that a lot of people don't look at too that levels and obviously D3, which is. Which is another. They think it's a vitamin if it's a hormone.
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Yes. Absolutely. You know, I don't know how well you know Dr. Steven Gundry, but I.
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Talk to him a lot of him.
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Yeah. So we talk a lot about one of the most deficient, if not the most deficient that people are is vitamin D. And he's more controversial on some of the things he's older Andand I like it because I like to look at these things and analyze them. But when I see these numbers and it's like, why is everybody so low on this? They're not getting enough sun, they're not eating the right foods, they're not taking the right supplements, and they just don't know. But yes, DHEA is another one that we have to test and look at. And you just look at.
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Because they all work together. If you just look at one thing, like testosterone or estrogen, if you look at one thing you're missing, everything here works synergistically together, and they're all balanced. There's this harmony, right? So you have to make sure that the thyroid, the dhea, the cortisol, where's that level, your testosterone, everything has to be balanced, right? You just do one thing and then everything else gets out of whack.
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It's true. You know, we were laughing earlier when I said I was the cellular health coach. Well, I just got out of this class and it was hardcore. And I know a lot, but there was so many things that I learned in here. And what you're talking about, right, the balance, you, dude, it would blow your mind. The smallest little thing that can be off that can throw three other things off. And if you're not checking constantly. Look, one of the things that I despise is when people tell you, oh, I don't need to check that this much or that much. I am a data guy for a reason. And that's why people come to me and hire me is because I don't let you get screwed up. I'm a fixer. That's what people like. I. I'm the guy that fixes you. That's why people come to me when they realize that, that where they're going is not working. And they come to me to fix all their problems because I find it. I find the issues. But then it's. It's just like this. The easy part is getting there when you set a goal. That's the easy part. But the maintenance is the hard part. So maintaining your health and your numbers is hard because you get lazy, you get complacent, you think everything's okay. And then if one thing goes off, instead of getting it checked, you'll go, oh, well, I'm tired, so I need this. And if you don't know, you could create so many more problems for yourself.
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Yeah, if you don't, it could be something. Look, you don't know.
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No, I don't. People will ask me Those type of questions, and I'll say, I'm not your guy. I'm not your guy because I need to sit down with you. I need to do this. I need to look at this. And if you don't want to do it, I am not for you. This is not what I do.
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What about this? A lot of times doctors run a blood panel. Even if they run an extensive one, they're looking at your number and they're saying, let's say testosterone as a hormone or DHEA or vitamin D3 or any of the other numbers. And they say, oh, it's in the range. I go, time out, time out, time out. What was the range 30 years ago? And what is the range? According to the German health authorities or the Swiss health. It's a different range. So it's in the range. That means nothing. The next question is, what's the trend? I've had this test done twice a year for the last 10 years. Is it trending down or is it trending up? Or is it. Is it like this? What's the trend? Right or wrong?
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Absolutely. You know, here's the thing, because I. I work with different labs and different companies and everything. So you go to Quest, you go to LabCorp, and you run these panels, and you're looking at one. And if you like, if I took one from. From just. I'm just making UP Quest and LabCorp because they're the two most popular. And I'm looking at one, and I'm going, why does this one acting like it's so good and this one's telling me it's all screwed up, and what's the correlation here and how and why? You know, I've been dealing with this for a very long time, but it really hit me hard when a couple years ago, they were changing the definition of recession to whatever they wanted. And I thought in my head, I go, really? So we can just now go to Webster and say, hey, Dud, you know, this is what we're gonna do. But it's. I say that because that's what they do with blood panels now, to fit however they want it to be. And I know, I know, I know people don't want to hear this. They don't like men to be masculine. I'm not saying that because I'm making it up or I'm some conspiracy guy. I'm a trenches guy, and I'm about as real as you're gonna get. That is an absolute fact. And anybody that's a man understands that. Look, I Got do. Live your life, do whatever you want. I don't give a. It has nothing to do with me. My point is this, this is well known. And you can watch it just by looking at how they. The verbiage that's used and the way that people are pushed in a direction of, oh, that's bad. I mean, anymore. You're considered just for working out and taking care of yourself. You're considered far right. And I'm like, what? So that's just where you get put into this thing. And it's like, hey, man, I'm just trying to teach people how to take care of themselves. I don't even know half the stuff you're talking about, nor care.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, and people tie you into this for wanting to do basic things, you know, okay, I have been invited to work on these seed oil committees with, with Maha and do all of this work. And I see people, they. They pass these great things about banning dyes and about banning things that we know are so bad. And they're like, why are they so worried about this Die that? And when they should be worried about whatever SNAP program or whatever the hell else they're talking about, I'm like, listen, this is just how ignorant you are. They're saving lives. They're preventing disease. They're actually looking at the things that are harming us, not people that want to go rip you off and take money and go get a food stamp card and sell it on the dollar to somebody else to go make money off of it. Okay? So before you open your mouth and start running foaming off at the mouth, maybe get the facts on what's really going on here. They're trying to actually make a difference. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. If you're anti health, I'm anti you. You know, I mean, seriously, it just doesn't make sense to me.
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A
I know getting rid of a food dye in America is controversial, but time out, time out, time out. I thought we're supposed to follow the science. I thought, follow the science. The science all around the world has said that these red dye number five, I think it is, is poisonous and detrimental to your health. That's what the science says. And it's been. And it's been. It's been agreed by the courts all over the world, which is why that dye is illegal in food all over the world. We're supposed to follow the science, but in America, it's different science. There is no right.
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B
I know you remember the show the Twilight Zone. And I was a kid, but I swear that I freaking lived there for the past. I don't know how many years. I, I literally used to. And I won't. I don't want to curse too much, but I just say what the f just happened here? Like, what, what, what happened? I feel like I woke up and it was like when. But you know the Looney Tunes, when he'd turn on the TV and then some evil guy would come on and the thing would come and hypnotize him and would glaze over and they'd start being evil Bugs Bunny. That's like what we're living in. Seriously. And I'm just like the most common of common senses here. What you just said. If this thing is illegal in every other country but here, how could that not be a. Well, one. How is that not concerning exactly?
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A
Because that's what the science says. All we're supposed to follow the science.
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B
No, you're not. Because you're not supposed to ask questions. You're just supposed to just do what you're told. And that's another thing. How can you argue or say to not ask questions when we wouldn't have had lights or cars or. What do you think the most brilliant people didn't question and ask everything that we have? I'm totally lost. Science changes. That's why we study and learn things. How do you think they, how do you think they came up with their glorious vaccine? Well, they had to study and learn the, the, the virus, right? So if that's just how, how they speak out of both sides of their ass. If, if you, if you're following the science, you got to learn this and study and you got to question it because it can't just fall in line.
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A
I mean, all right, we got a reel back in. We got a real bad. Let's go back to the. Let's. I'm weaving food and health and longevity. All right, now, precursors to hormones and health. There are a couple things out there and tell me your opinion on them. One is deer antler velvet said that if you take it. And a lot of sports athletes have taken it. And actually it was in the news where a lot of athletes, because it said it built up, it allows the body to produce testosterone more naturally and has other health anti aging benefits. Any thoughts about that?
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B
I remember when that first came out and I looked at it, I just started laughing. I just started laughing at the name or whatever. I mean, look, look what you're gonna find from things like That I. I really think are honestly like 70 to 80% placebo effect. If you want to go look at numbers and take one of those and look at them, the boost that you're gonna get is very minimal.
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There's a lot of testosterone boosters out there. Yeah, Ton Jack. There's different, you know, herbs, maca, et cetera, et cetera, that allegedly have some research showing that if you take this, it stimulates testosterone and other hormone production to increase masculinity energies, et cetera, et cetera. And again, it's. You know, there's a lot of people that, okay, placebo or whatever, antidotal evidence say that it got great results. And there are studies that show some of it actually based on the numbers, you know, looked pretty good. I remember when I was taking one of those things, and I went and got my testosterone checked, and the guy says, oh, you're on testosterone therapy? I said, no. He goes, well, you have 1200. It's like, of course you are. And I said, no, I'm not. He said, what do you. What do you. No. And he says, that's impossible. I said, I'm taking a couple of these boosters, you know, and maybe that helps. And he goes, what's the name of it?
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B
You know, I. I've been in the supplement business since 2011, so I have seen it all, been around it all. I actually design formulas. I've designed testosterone boosters. I've designed, you know, fat loss compounds, things like that, and just sold them to companies or helped build.
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A
And most of them were bs, Right?
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B
Well, I would say you need to. You need to have the right expectation. Okay? So when with testosterone boosters, 90 of that is marketed so well. I mean, they. Some of those companies have so much money, and they can make you. You feel like you're juicing up your testosterone. And. And look, the first time you take one of those, you're gonna feel pretty good. But if you go, like, I have run so many tests and done so many things, especially guys that are, you know, either experiencing an issue or using steroids or whatever, they don't do much of anything for people like that. Now, I will tell you this. One of the things that I like to do is if a woman comes to me with low testosterone and. And the ability for these natural ones to boost the amounts that you need, sometimes it's the answer for a woman.
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That way they don't have to take the hormone replacement therapy. And it's always better to do some precursor first.
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All right, So I always Try it.
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A
So what about peptides? Explain exactly what a peptide is. Because that's a word that we're hearing a lot. I knew about it years ago, but again, it's a misnomer. Sometimes it's misused, it's misunderstood. Explain peptides.
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B
So one of the benefits that I've had doing what I do is, you know, that peptides really started to get more mainstream and in the front fourth, I don't know, within five years. I learned about them in 2011 and what I found back then was I was quite astounded because they were grouped with like performance enhancing drugs, man. All they are are short chains of amino acids. In reality, that's all they are. And short chains of amino acids are building blocks of proteins. They're naturally occurring in our body. Now there's some that you're taking, they're exogenous and, etc. However, peptides I believe, and, and this may be a bold statement, this is just what I believe, that it doesn't, it's not pro, it's nothing more than that. But I believe that this is the future of like the therapies that we're going to have in a lot of things if we're able to get past, you know, big pharma. That's a big, big.
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Because the peptides are effectively natural because they're just amino acid chains.
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B
Yes.
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So they're effectively natural and they stimulate the body to do something as opposed to adding testosterone or adding something, you're letting the body create it as it was designed, human growth hormone. You can take the injection of human growth hormone before you go to bed or you can do something that stimulates the body to produce more human growth hormone, which is obviously better as your first choice. But if you're 80 years old and your body ain't producing any more human growth hormone or testosterone, by gosh, take it because you're going to feel infinitely better and look younger and live longer and have a much better quality of life. Right or wrong.
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B
I love, I love, I love that you are versed on this and you know what you're saying. So when I started there were like nine peptides to choose from and most of them were growth releasing and hormone like, or growth releasing hormone peptides. Right. So basically all that we're doing here, so it's a GHRP or a ghrh and they do exactly what you said. Instead of taking actual hgh, you're taking these which are stimulating your body to produce growth hormone on its own, which ideally we want to do unless there's some serious issue where it's just not going to work. But some of these are so damn strong. They, they, they, there's no issue there. And you can do them into your 80s. I mean, they're tremendous. So when I started out, like I said, there was about nine or ten to pick from. And both, most of them all did that. There were different variations that had a. Different mechanisms of action, so to speak. And then there was melanitan too, which is for getting your skin darker and increased libido and things like that. And mind you, now there's thousands and they're constantly being developed. And I'm talking, I'm a big cellular health guy, so I'm looking at the ones that are, you know, helping to stimulate mitophagy and autophagy. We're built rebuilding mitochondria, cellular health. Keeping, keeping you young, making you look.
[42:29]
A
And feel younger and live long.
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B
Yes.
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A
And maintain superior health.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
Okay, mitochondria. People at home are going, who to condo. What is that? Like a snake in, in the anaconda? Is that. I heard of the anaconda, but I haven't heard of the mitochondria.
[42:46]
B
Let me make, I'll make it very simple because this is very important. But you're right. So mitochondria, that's what's in all of our cells that produce our energy. Right. So to make it very simple, it's the powerhouse of your cells. Your cells are what make you live. When your cells start to die, we start to die. So as we get older, what happens is our cellular health declines and cells start to fill up with junk. Okay? Just think of it as a trash can that's continuously filling up. They become senescent, which means they're dead, but they're still there when they're full. And then you know what happens when they're full and they overflow? It empties all throughout your body, so it kills your cells and then that's how disease and inflammation starts. So what we do is we try to prevent that from happening by stimulating mitophagy, which is the repair of your mitochondria, improving cellular health, focusing on the cellular membrane, which is this, the what keeps the cell, you know, protected. And things like, I'll just throw a couple names, Mots C. That's a big peptide for cellular health and mitochondria that I love. SS31. But then there's other ones that we look at, like epitalon, for example, that helps with sleep, fixing circadian rhythm. There's, there's Celan and cmax, which go hand in hand for people that are struggling with anxiety and stress. I mean, there's literally something for everything. There's things that have, they'll, they'll be preventative in terms of helping you to hopefully mitigate or prevent onset Alzheimer's. There's things for cardiovascular and heart health then certainly anti aging erectile dysfunction, PT141, for example. I mean, the list is endless. Kevin. And that's why I love it so much because there's something for everybody, for everything.
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A
We could go on for hours and hours and I want to have you back on the show because we didn't really talk about which I wanted to, but we are, we're going to talk about exosomes, we're going to talk about telomeres or telomeres, however you want to pronounce it. Everybody has a different pronunciation. We're going to talk about what foods to avoid to maintain superior dynamic health. What foods to you eat more of, what order, if there's an order. What about glucose levels and what stimulates that? Because that increases inflammation. There's so many. You're like, oh yeah, there's so much more we can talk about and I'm absolutely going to have you back on because you are brilliant. But the bottom line is everybody who's watched, we just got a minute left. Everybody who's watching, if they want to improve the quality of their health, they have to look. And a hormone panel is a good place to start. But either a blood and, or like I did, the five different saliva throughout the day, but a complete full spectrum panel and you really look at that and consider whether it's peptide therapy or consider hormone replacement therapy, bioidentical, probably the best or some precursors if you don't want to go down that road, including HGH, human growth hormone, IGF1, insulin, growth hormone factor, et cetera. You know all this better than anybody, so, so I love it. We're gonna have you back. But one last question before you go. Everybody who's watching can. Is it possible for them to increase the quality of their health and feel better?
[46:08]
B
Oh, absolutely. Start. Step one is getting a better sleep cycle. Get your day right and start from there and just increase good habits each and every day. I'm telling you right now, it's not just possible, it's a necessity that we all can do very easily without spending a lot of money. It's just time, effort and keep it on the right track. Mentally, you are the best.
[46:34]
A
Dylan Gemelli, thanks very much for being my guest. You are brilliant. We're going to have you back on again. Have a super, super day. If you're watching right now, this is Kevin Trudeau, the Kevin Trudeau Show, Limitless. Make sure you subscribe, leave a comment, forward this to everyone like it. Subscribe to the show. Tell your friends, relatives, neighbors, and listen, listen. Look out for your own health. You can feel better now. You don't have to hurt anymore. You can look and feel 10, 20 years younger than you do right now. Just doing some simple steps, not spending a lot of money. You don't have to go down these rabbit holes and spend insane amounts of money and spend insane amounts of time. You can dramatically improve the quality of life and the way you feel and the way you look right now. I'm Kevin Trudeau. Thanks for watching. Until next time, you can be, do and have anything and everything you desire. Much love, everybody. Bye bye. Hey, if you like that show, I did another show a while back on a subject similar to this and I think you're gonna love it. So click on the link and watch this other show that I picked out just for you. The 10 foods that you need to be eating if you want to have a better sex life, both for men and women.

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Podcast Summary: The Dylan Gemelli Podcast Episode #32 - Featured on Kevin Trudeau’s “Limitless” Podcast

Host: Kevin Trudeau
Guest: Dylan Gemelli
Release Date: June 7, 2025
Platform: Featured on The Kevin Trudeau Show, Limitless Podcast

Introduction

In Episode #32 of The Dylan Gemelli Podcast, host Kevin Trudeau engages in an in-depth discussion with Dylan Gemelli, a renowned figure in the health, fitness, and biohacking industries. The episode, titled “How to Stay Young and Fit Forever,” delves into various strategies for enhancing longevity, optimizing hormone levels, and maintaining overall health without reliance on conventional medical systems.

Challenging Conventional Credentials and Expertise (00:00 - 04:38)

Kevin Trudeau begins by addressing Dylan Gemelli’s credentials, humorously highlighting the absence of traditional accolades such as Nobel Prizes or Harvard degrees. Trudeau emphasizes the importance of practical knowledge and real-world experience over formal titles.

Kevin Trudeau (00:38): “We have an excellent, outstanding expert on health and nutrition who has no credentials whatsoever.”

Dylan defends his expertise by referencing his extensive personal research and experience, asserting that his hands-on approach provides him with a broader and more applicable understanding of health and nutrition compared to conventional medical practitioners.

Defining Biohacking and Its Real-World Applications (04:39 - 07:22)

The conversation shifts to the concept of biohacking, a term often misunderstood and considered polarizing. Dylan explains biohacking as self-directed, proactive health management that ranges from simple lifestyle changes to sophisticated therapeutic interventions.

Dylan Gemelli (04:53): “Biohacking's nothing. All it is in simple terms is, is taking care of yourself, but being self-dependent, not being reliant on other people.”

He underscores that biohacking can be as straightforward as improving diet and increasing physical activity or as complex as utilizing peptides and alternative therapies to optimize bodily functions.

Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) and Its Benefits (07:23 - 19:17)

A significant portion of the episode focuses on Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT). Dylan outlines the myriad benefits of TRT for men experiencing low testosterone levels, including:

Increased Muscle Mass: TRT helps men regain muscle mass lost due to low testosterone.
Enhanced Libido and Sexual Function: Addresses erectile dysfunction and boosts sex drive.
Improved Cognitive Function: Reduces brain fog and enhances mental clarity.
Better Sleep Quality: Enhances sleep patterns, reducing nocturnal awakenings.
Mood Stabilization: Decreases irritability and increases overall mood stability.

Dylan Gemelli (11:32): “You're going to have more cognition, less brain fog, you know, less irritability, things of that nature.”

Trudeau raises concerns about men in their 30s using TRT, which Dylan attributes to societal pressures from social media, misinformation, and misuse of steroids in bodybuilding. He stresses that TRT should be approached with caution and under professional guidance to avoid potential side effects such as testicular shrinkage.

Kevin Trudeau (19:18): “There's several reasons why?”

Dylan Gemelli (19:18): “Social media. Because there's this belief that you have to take that and stay on it to have any sort of muscle gain…”

Diet, Environmental Factors, and Hormonal Health (14:14 - 22:50)

The discussion broadens to the impact of diet and environmental factors on hormonal health. Dylan highlights:

Processed Foods and Additives: Emphasizes avoiding genetically modified organisms (GMOs), food dyes, and chemical additives that negatively impact hormonal balance.
Alcohol Consumption: Identifies alcohol as a major disruptor of testosterone levels.
Stress and Sleep: Links high stress and inadequate sleep to declining hormone levels.
Soy Consumption: Advises against soy due to its potential to increase estrogen levels and lower testosterone.

Dylan Gemelli (15:16): “Alcohol… can really… wrecks testosterone levels.”

Trudeau echoes these sentiments, reinforcing the necessity of scrutinizing food labels and being aware of hidden toxins in everyday foods.

Comprehensive Hormonal Testing and Personalized Health Strategies (22:51 - 32:48)

Both hosts advocate for comprehensive hormonal testing beyond standard medical panels to uncover nuanced imbalances:

Blood Panels vs. Saliva Tests: While Dylan primarily relies on detailed blood panels, he acknowledges the utility of saliva tests for certain assessments.
Holistic Analysis: Emphasizes evaluating multiple hormones simultaneously, including thyroid hormones, DHEA, cortisol, and vitamin D3, to understand their synergistic effects on overall health.
Trend Analysis: Advises tracking hormone levels over time to identify trends rather than relying solely on single test results.

Dylan Gemelli (30:16): “I'm the guy that fixes you. That's why people come to me when they realize that, that where they're going is not working.”

Trudeau points out the limitations of conventional medicine in addressing these complexities, advocating for a more personalized and data-driven approach to health.

Peptides and Cellular Health (36:36 - 44:39)

A key segment explores the role of peptides in biohacking and cellular health:

Definition of Peptides: Short chains of amino acids that serve as building blocks for proteins, naturally occurring in the body.
Benefits of Peptides: Stimulate the body to produce growth hormones, enhance mitochondrial function, promote mitophagy (cellular cleanup), and support overall cellular health.
Variety and Application: Thousands of peptides exist, each targeting specific health aspects such as skin health, cognitive function, and cardiovascular support.

Kevin Trudeau (40:25): “So they're effectively natural and they stimulate the body to do something as opposed to adding testosterone or adding something, you're letting the body create it as it was designed.”

Dylan passionately advocates for the potential of peptides as future therapies that can revolutionize health maintenance and anti-aging strategies.

Mitochondrial Health and Longevity (42:46 - 44:39)

The conversation delves into mitochondrial health, describing mitochondria as the “powerhouses” of cells responsible for energy production. Dylan explains:

Cellular Decline: With age, cellular health deteriorates, leading to disease and inflammation.
Mitophagy and Autophagy: Processes that repair and rebuild mitochondria, essential for maintaining youthful and healthy cells.
Peptide Interventions: Specific peptides like MOTS-c and SS31 are highlighted for their roles in enhancing mitochondrial function and promoting longevity.

Dylan Gemelli (42:28): “And you can do them into your 80s. I mean, they're tremendous.”

Addressing Common Health Misconceptions and Practices (32:49 - 46:33)

In the final segments, Trudeau and Dylan tackle prevalent health misconceptions:

Food Additives: Strong opposition to artificial dyes and additives, citing international bans based on scientific evidence of their harm.

Kevin Trudeau (34:32): “The science all around the world has said that these red dye number five, I think it is, is poisonous and detrimental to your health.”
Supplements and Testosterone Boosters: Critique the effectiveness of over-the-counter testosterone boosters, labeling many as placebo with negligible impacts.

Dylan Gemelli (36:58): “The boost that you're gonna get is very minimal.”
Importance of a Comprehensive Approach: Emphasizes that improving health requires a multifaceted approach, incorporating diet, exercise, hormonal balance, and advanced biohacking techniques.
Practical Health Steps: Concludes with actionable advice for listeners:
- Improve Sleep Quality: Establishing a consistent and restorative sleep cycle.
- Adopt Healthy Habits: Gradually integrating positive lifestyle changes.
- Regular Health Monitoring: Continuously tracking and adjusting health strategies based on comprehensive testing.

Dylan Gemelli (46:07): “It's not just possible, it's a necessity that we all can do very easily without spending a lot of money. It's just time, effort and keep it on the right track.”

Conclusion

The episode underscores the importance of taking proactive, informed steps toward personal health management. By leveraging biohacking techniques, comprehensive hormonal testing, and personalized health strategies, individuals can significantly enhance their longevity, vitality, and overall quality of life. Dylan Gemelli and Kevin Trudeau advocate for a departure from conventional medical paradigms, encouraging listeners to become empowered architects of their own health destinies.

For those seeking to optimize their health and lifespan, this episode provides valuable insights and practical guidance rooted in extensive research and real-world application.

Notable Quotes:

Kevin Trudeau (00:38): “We have an excellent, outstanding expert on health and nutrition who has no credentials whatsoever.”
Dylan Gemelli (04:53): “Biohacking's nothing. All it is in simple terms is, is taking care of yourself, but being self-dependent, not being reliant on other people.”
Dylan Gemelli (11:32): “You're going to have more cognition, less brain fog, you know, less irritability, things of that nature.”
Dylan Gemelli (15:16): “Alcohol… can really… wrecks testosterone levels.”
Dylan Gemelli (36:58): “The boost that you're gonna get is very minimal.”
Dylan Gemelli (46:07): “It's not just possible, it's a necessity that we all can do very easily without spending a lot of money. It's just time, effort and keep it on the right track.”

Final Thoughts:

This episode serves as an empowering resource for those looking to transcend traditional health limitations through innovative biohacking methodologies. By embracing a holistic and data-driven approach, listeners are encouraged to take charge of their health, optimize their hormonal balance, and unlock their full potential for a vibrant, disease-free life.

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[00:00]
A
Big Pharma definitely doesn't want you to see this. We're gonna be talking about superhuman health. How to live to be 100 with no illness and disease. How, if you're a guy out there, how you can get super big muscles, look lean and have incredible sexual energy, Even if you're 95 years old. How to lose weight? Is that what we're talking about, Trey? Is that all the benefits here? Well, I'll tell you who we have. We have a very special guest. Harvard medical doctor. He won two Nobel Prizes for medicine. Longevity. That's not you, right? You didn't win any Nobel.
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That's not me. And I'm not a Harvard medic. I was like, shit.
[00:39]
A
He's like, what? We got the wrong guy. We got the wrong. No, listen. We have an excellent, outstanding expert on health and nutrition who has no credentials whatsoever. And I'm telling you that for a reason. Because when I wrote the book Natural Cures They Don't Want yout to Know about, which sold 50 million copies and was number one in the New York Times bestselling list for 26 weeks in a row, when I was on the Today show with Matt Lauer and Fox News and CNN and everybody else, and I was interviewed and on the front page of the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, everybody said the same thing. What qualifies you, Kevin, to write a book on health? You're not a doctor. And I said, what qualifies me is I traveled the world, I interviewed 5,000 healthcare practitioners, and I have more information than any doctor on the planet when it comes to natural ways to cure and prevent disease. I didn't go to Harvard. I didn't win a Nobel Prize, which means I'm not dialed into the drug companies and only know one therapy. I'm not a chiropractor. I'm not an herbologist. I'm not a homeopath, which means I only know that and nothing else. I have a broad sense. So we have. Dylan Gemelli is a guy who has these great titles which mean nothing. I love this because he has the knowledge. And the reason I'm bringing this out is we always talk about. Who do you listen to? You listen to somebody who has what you want and has been where you are, and it doesn't matter about title. So, John, my producer, said, certified cellular health coach. That means nothing. Okay, Integrated health practitioner. That means nothing. Certified personal trainer. Yeah. Okay, Weight loss specialist. What does that mean? How do you become a weight loss specialist online? I'll send you A certificate. You are now a weight loss specialist, fitness and nutrition expert. Okay? The point is, this guy has knowledge and knowingness on this subject through massive amounts of personal, personal experience and massive amounts of research. In real life, it is in theory, not textbook. Not from a Harvard md. Dylan Gemelli, thank you very much for being with me.
[03:01]
B
I appreciate it, man. It's great to be here with you. I've been looking forward to this and I love you.
[03:06]
A
When I read all this stuff and I said, this is a guy after my own heart. He's healthy, he knows health, he knows nutrition. So let's just talk about a few things. Right off the giddy up, I talked about longevity, how to live longer, how to up testosterone, how guys can get great muscles and have great sexual health and virility, how women can balance out their hormone, out their hormones, maintain their weight, look beautiful and young until they're 85 years old without cosmetic surgery and things. There's a lot of people out there that use the word biohacking. What is biohacking and is it real?
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B
So it's one of those polarizing terms because when I first heard it, I was more involved in the bodybuilding and fitness world side of things, kind of the meathead side of things. That was my niche. That's where I found that I could grow the fastest. I got all the followers and everything, but it wasn't who I was. So I see this term biohacking, when I'm at. I was actually Speaking at the Mr. Olympia this year, which was like my culmination, right, because they're taking an influencer to go speak with doctors and everything. And I'm the first quote, unquote influencer who actually really isn't an influencer. But regardless that they put on stage, and while I'm there, I meet people from the biohacking industry. So when I get home, I got Covid. And when I got Covid, instead of pouting I. And wondering, woe is me. Why did this happen? Right after I got all this momentum, I started to dig into the research and. And I said, okay, all these people are biohacking. They're doctors, they're naturopathics, they're t. They're go. They're moving away from standard general practitioners and all that nonsense.
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A
What does biohacking actually mean? I mean, what does.
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B
Yes. And that's where I'm going. So that took me into what is this? Because I looked at it like bitcoin. When bitcoin came out, everybody made it so difficult. Biohacking's nothing. All it is in simple terms is, is taking care of yourself, but being self dependent, not being reliant on other people. Is it basic stuff?
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A
Is it tricks and techniques? We'll call it tricks. Tricks and techniques and methods to stay healthier, live longer and look younger.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
But it's. That's what the objective is, right?
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B
Yes. And it's so simple. People think of it as you got to have millions of dollars, you got to have all these technologies, you got to be Brian Johnson and all these guys that spend all their money figuring out every other therapy. That's not it. Wake up in the morning, go outside and walk. That's biohacking. Literally fixing your diet, eating properly, it's biohacking. Biohacking can be the most simplest, basic thing and it can go to the most intricate thing. What it is, is you take control and you get the real facts. And you don't let people push something down your throat and tell you what it is. You go do the research, you figure it out, you take care of yourself. It's almost like alternative therapy and medication. So what I found is instead of falling into the trap of letting people force feed something right down your throat and tell you this is it and this is how it is, when we know anybody that does that is full of it. This is you just doing some of the most basic things. Finding nature, finding health, implementing your own ways, looking at things then like peptides, alternative therapies that I discuss a lot of and saying to yourself, okay, do I need to take these medications that only, only, only look at treating and not preventing, or do I figure out how to prevent before everything gets started?
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A
And that's what biohacking is, is the goal, Living longer? Yes.
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B
Yes.
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A
Okay.
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B
Absolutely.
[06:42]
A
Second goal, looking younger.
[06:46]
B
Absolutely.
[06:46]
A
I mean, listen, I'm 82 years old, so I mean, I'm working on trying to look as young as I can. So living longer, looking younger and not having any illness and disease, in other words, having strength, virility, if guys be able to get an erection without any issues, without needing Viagra or Cialis or any of these ED medications, have muscles and strength, sleep great. Not getting up in the middle of the night and going to the bathroom nine times. That, that's what, that's the objective, right?
[07:23]
B
It's in, in short, it's enhancing and improving your quality of life. And that's long term, it's short term, it's all term. But you summed it up correctly. Yes, and, and it's really not accepting what is supposed to be acceptable? So you know how they just say, well, that's inevitable, that's going to happen, or this is going to happen? No, that's. No, it's not. It doesn't have to. It doesn't have to at all. In fact, in fact, they want a lot of those things to happen to you. And it's. It, whatever you want, it. It all comes down to money and how things are conveyed. We both know this. I'm not going to do all of that. What I am going to say is this. There are plenty of ways to stop things before they start to handle things well in advance, to know what they are and look at different factors. Like, for instance, what I do a lot of is cover blood panels. And we're looking not just at the basics that the doctor gives you that doesn't know what they're talking about because they won't dig deep. They can't. Because they can't go give it to the insurance company. Because you know what happens, Kevin, if you go to your doctor and say, I want to. To check this, this, this and this, a lot of doctors are going to go, well, why do you want to check that? Or we can't do that. And it's like, really, really, why? Well, because if they go send it to the insurance company, you know what happens if they do it too much? They drop them from the insurance so they don't do it. So what I teach people is, hey, you don't need to go to your doctor if your doctor isn't going to do it. You can go here and get your own panels. You come to people like me that looks at micronutrients, that tests for heavy metals, that tests for parasites. These things are real. The doctors come up and they'll tell you, well, you're in range. You might be a fraction of a fraction of a point from being completely out of range and screwed. Or they'll tell you, well, your testosterone falls in range when it's like 250 and you're basically walking around dead. And, and they, they say this is acceptable because they skew the numbers and every lab changes it to whatever the narrative is for that day to fit into however they want it. So they don't like people like me and people like you that come out and question and look at the realities of things and bring different aspects or opportunities for people to take as opposed to that one fit narrative that we know does not exist.
[09:39]
A
So there are natural ways to cure and prevent disease and maintain health. I talk about it in my book Natural Cures. We talked about it going for a walk, drinking pure water, eliminating toxins from your diet. When you look at food, what's in it? Is it genetically modified corn? Is it GMO food? Is it food dyes, Chemical additives? Okay, most people actually don't know that that's bad for you and having massive negative effects, but it is. But let's talk about something that is a proactive approach. Controversial and very misunderstood. My friend Suzanne Summers was a big promoter of bioidentical hormones. And when she would promote bioidentical hormone therap. This was before the knowledge of peptides, which are kind of precursors to bioidentical hormone therapy. Talk about that. Because I know this is an area that you've studied ad nauseam and have huge amounts of data and information and knowledge on it.
[10:40]
B
Yes. So I am one of the biggest proponents out there of testosterone replacement therapy or hormone replacement therapy, whatever you want to call it. Now, there are, there's positive and negatives that I look at this one. They will, they have for many years tried to put out studies or skew numbers to say that it causes heart problems. And you know, things that we've come to find out now like we have with a lot of other things, like the fat phobias, for example, on fatty foods. That, that is just a complete nutter nonsense. Now I will tell you this because I've been in the steroid world and coached bodybuilders for so long. If you abuse anything and it's not just testosterone, it's anything, yeah, you can get those problems. But when you need a therapeutic dose of exogenous testosterone to improve your quality of life and it's used properly, that can enhance a man's life to the nth degree.
[11:33]
A
Tell me, tell me the benefits that happen to a guy who's, who would take testosterone and then I'm going to talk about why you need it. But what are the benefits? So if a person is, has, quote, low t, low testosterone and they start taking a testosterone cream or something to build, what are they going to notice? What, what difference in their life, in their body, are they going to notice so much?
[11:56]
B
And this depends on how serious of a hypogonadal condition they have. And for anybody listening, hypogonadal is just what you said, it's a low testosterone. And some people will develop this problem based upon something out of their control. But most in general, it's some sort of lifestyle issue. It could be diet, it could be stress it could be sleep related. It could be use of steroids, for example. Anyway, to answer your question, and this once again depends on the severity, but it's going to go all the way from you're going to lean out because when you have low testosterone, you're going to have an inability to burn fat, for example, you're going to have probably erectile dysfunction, but you will at least have a lower libido, lower desire or sex drive that's going to go right back up. Generally speaking, you're going to have more cognition, less brain fog, you know, less irritability, things of that nature. You'll notice that your cortisol levels will get better because they're going to be bad with low testosterone. And that's kind of stress related too. You're going to sleep better, you're going to have, it's funny because you almost have this euphoric feeling and it's not like a drug euphoric, but it's like, wow, I'm just happy to be alive type of thing because you've been so down for so long. So it can have all of these types of benefits. And of course you're going to have an easier ability to gain muscle. Now, I will just want to one thing, there's this mythical thing out there that if you're taking trt, you're going to be this mass monster. And the only way people can build muscle the size they have is because of that. And that's, that's utter nonsense. Okay. If you are having low testosterone issues, you're going to have an inability to gain muscle. So you're going to look terrible, basically. So when you take it, yes, you're going to get that ability back. So if you're working out and taking care of yourself, yeah, it's at 60, 70 years old, sure, you can build more muscle, but a lot of the reason people can't when they get that age is because they have the issue. So we're just correcting the issue.
[13:58]
A
And why do you think men, and we're talking about men here, but I want to talk about women hormone in a second. Why do men have low t, low testosterone levels? And it's, and it's, it's really bad in the US Compared to other countries.
[14:15]
B
Yes.
[14:15]
A
Why do you think that is?
[14:17]
B
A lot of it has to do with diet, honestly. And as you and I both know, the way that our food is handled, I'm not going to get into that right now, if we want to talk about that later. But the, the chemical Spread on the foods, the types of foods that we have, that's causing a problems. And, and then it's just a bad diet, high sugar diets. And I'll tell you what else is a problem, Kevin, for testosterone are not going to want to hear, and I'm sorry, it's a fact is alcohol. And that is a crusher when it comes to testosterone. It can really. And then that's just a fraction of what alcohol does. And I, I used to be the guy that would say, oh, come on, come on. And then I realized after studying and talking to real good doctors, even one drink of alcohol, the poison that it puts into your body, but it wrecks testosterone levels. It absolutely does. So that's a big part of it. And then, you know, high stress, low sleep, these things, not getting enough sunlight, all of these things correlate into low testosterone issues. And then what about soy?
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A
In America, we consume more soy because soy is put in all of our food as an additive and it's genetically modified soy made by Monsanto, which has all types of problems in the gut. So is the consumption of soy, does that increase estrogen, lowers testosterone as well?
[15:39]
B
Certainly can, yes. I don't touch soy. I literally don't touch it. I don't put any clients on it. There's arguments there, of course, because they, you know, they want you to think that it's okay. It's, it's really not. It's something I don't go near nor recommend. And it's certainly. It can have a negative effect. And yes, you start raising estrogen, which it can, it certainly can. You're gonna get the estrogen related side effects that come from that which, you know, water retention, from higher blood pressure will occur, things like that, lower testosterone levels, erectile dysfunction, a lot of brain fog. It's similar to low testosterone symptoms. But the high blood pressure, you could, it's bad. We both know how bad that is. And that's a certain side effect of that too. Soy. Soy is on my list of don't go near. So I am thoroughly in agreement there.
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A
Now, when a person goes on a bioidentical testosterone therapy, the argument is the testicles will shrink because now the body's not producing any testosterone. Okay, so retort, your retort.
[16:48]
B
Sure. There is a possibility that your testicles could shrink. However, you're taking exogenous testosterone, okay? So that is going to allow you to have that output. So let's just say, for example, Kevin, I'm your doctor, you're taking 100 milligrams of testosterone a week, you can expect your testosterone number to be five to seven times that number. So let's say 700. Most people are closer to seven. So you're 700 level, which is so healthy. And so where you want to be longer term because you don't want levels too high either because that can be detrimental. But you have what's called a luteinizing hormone and a follicle stimulating hormone. Okay. These are like youryour basic areas that produce testosterone. Those are going to plummet and crash. They're going to stay there. They're always gonna stay there. So that's what can cause the testicles to shrink. Now, some doctors will put you on HCG to help that you're still going to be producing testosterone. You just may have some testicular shrinkage which is not gonna hurt you in any way, shape or form. It's really a guy thing that they have a concern with. Being concerned that they're gonna shrink into raisins. Like people say is absolutely asinine, that that's a very ra. That's for people abusing steroids generally, but it's not. The HCG can boost it, but you got to understand, like longer term use of HCG2 can increase estrogen. It can. HCG is mimicking luteinizing hormones. So when you mimic something, if you stop taking it, it can therefore be suppressive when you're done because your body forgets to reproduce it if you're taking high amounts. This all comes down to dosing. But that's the answer to the, the, the testicular shrinkage for a lot of people. I've run across some natural testosterone boosters with fadosia agrestis in it that have helped to get more size in the testicles. And, and that's a way that people go if they don't want to take hcg. But there's ways around that. But it's not like it's harming you in any way, shape or form to have that happen. It's not some sort of issue where it's like you can't take testosterone now because you've got some shrinkage. That's not how it is at all. The therapy is helping you.
[18:57]
A
And why, why does somebody in their 30s, and I know guys who are in their 30s, 30s taking testosterone. It's like, wait a minute, you should be like 70 years old before you need it. Why is somebody in their 30s not producing enough testosterone to the point where they need to take testosterone externally?
[19:19]
B
There's several reasons why? One, social media. Because there's this belief that you have to take that and stay on it to have any sort of muscle gain and to continue to have muscle gain. Two, a lot of vitality clinics you could walk into with a 4 or 5, 600 score. You're not supposed to be able to go in with a score like that and get put on trt, but they can just do whatever the hell they want and they do it to make money and they have no care about it. Three, a lot of these guys that you're talking about, they're using steroids and they're running steroid cycles and when you do that, you are going to be on TRT the rest of your life. And they think in their minds, and I've talked about using steroids too young, that's an entirely different conversation. But when you do that, inevitably you're going to be on trt. You start using steroids that there's no way around it. You're going to be on TRT whether it's early or later.
[20:15]
A
And that's testosterone replacement therapy, correct?
[20:18]
B
Yes, yes, exactly. So that's one of the big reasons why. But a lot of it is, is because of these social media people that have no clue what they're talking about in any way, shape or form that read something from some meathead bodybuilder, go regurgitate it and then convince everybody it's okay. There's no long term thinking, Kevin. Zero. And I, you know, I piss people off because I tell you I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear. I'm going to tell you what you need to hear. And what you need to hear is the facts on what's going to happen. I'm not getting money or gaining some, something monetary by telling you the truth. It affects me. Zero way I'm gonna sleep fine either way. I'll sleep better knowing I told you the thing that you should do and maybe shouldn't do. But in essence, a lot of it is that. And then a lot of it is. What we've noticed as we've aged is men's levels have just declined. They continuously decline. And I'm, I'm telling you a lot of that is because of the foods that we're eating and consuming. Well, I've seen, I've seen studies and I've, I've watched it with clients I've had telling me what they've been eating and what their diet's been like. Because you know what, a lot of people don't know, something that might be basic to you and I, because we're kind of around it a lot or we study it, is not so basic to everybody else. In terms of the foods, just like you said with the dyes and stuff. How many people in, in reality do you think really look at a food label and go, well, you know, and read it and actually read all the ingredients because sometimes there's 40 and 50 in there and look at it and think, well, it's just a red dye. It's no big deal. They wouldn't know. And, and you know, people don't know what has been sprayed with glyphosate, then they don't even know what the hell that is or what it can cause and how many of our foods have that. And that is affecting not just testosterone, but all of the reasons why you're seeing people have diseases, die young, and not have any clue or understanding of what's going on. And so that's a lot of the problem. I'll keep going back to diet, diet, diet. And some of it is by fault, by lack of understanding, and some of it's not by fault by lack of understanding.
[22:25]
A
Let's talk about women because we were talking about men. I want to talk about peptides. We're going to get back to food as well and exercise. We're basically talking about how to live longer, how to look younger, how to make sure you don't have illness and disease, and if you're a man or a woman, how to make your body look spectacular and have massive excellent sexual function as well. Women do. They need peptides or bioidentical hormone replacement therapy.
[22:52]
B
Oftentimes what I find is that women that are kind of perimenopause in menopause are kind of just coming out of it. They don't realize a lot of women don't understand, just like a lot of men don't understand. Yes, a woman is estrogen dominant and yes, a man is testosterone dominant, but if I drain my estrogen to nothing, I'm going to have some serious, serious problems. And the same with the woman. If she drains her testosterone or nothing, she's going to have some serious, serious problems. There's a progesterone and a testosterone issue with women and they're kind of in that stage. And I've really made it a point to, to put a lot of focus lately on women in that stage. Right. Because I've been so male dominant and I've shifted a lot of what I do now to women and gotten Way more clients and interaction. And what I see is a can, it's a constant and low testosterone or progesterone issue and, and a combination where they're not coinciding. So women absolutely need to look at testosterone levels. Granted, it's a fraction of what a man needs to be at, but it's so important to balance that. And women lose libido just like a man can with low testosterone. They'll, they'll have this complete like loss of memory or, or find themselves just kind of confused out of nowhere when their testosterone gets too low and they'll think they're forgetting stuff or they'll think, think maybe I'm getting Alzheimer's or maybe this. And in reality it can be just a hormone related problem. But they don't get these checked because a lot of you know this. If you go to a general practitioner, they're general, you see them three minutes. They don't run the proper blood panels. They'll do a basic blood count panel and they'll look at your liver, kidneys and base. Just basic, basic stuff. They don't do all of this in depth. Searching to find the core root problem and then they just put you on, you know, it's either a statin, it's ibuprofen, it's amoxysil. These are the answers to everything, no matter what. Right. So the, the part of it is they just don't get the test done and they don't know. But yes, correcting these problems on a middle aged woman, you know, when, when women are going through menopause and you're going, oh, they're having all these hormonal imbalances and they're up and down. Well, a lot of it could be fixed. Creatine use, for example, is very helpful to women. And it doesn't have to just be testosterone. There's some basic things too. Some, a couple different types of foods or changes in diets that we've noticed. Mockup has helped. But yes, testosterone in women absolutely should. When you start getting in your 40s as a man or woman, you should be checking all of these really, Even.
[25:24]
A
In your 30s, hormones, including thyroid. Right. Because a lot of times no one looks at the thyroid. So if you're looking at testosterone replacement therapy, you have to look at the thyroid as well and you have to look at all of the hormones. There's two types of tests that I noticed when I went to some experts. One is obviously the blood test where you get a hormone panel on the blood work, but then There is the saliva test where you have five saliva samples taken in a day at certain intervals and then both of those are compared. What's your experience with that?
[26:01]
B
I don't really do a lot with the saliva tests. We generally work with the blood tests. Now I've worked with doctors that do the saliva tests as well. But I generally focus on blood panels. But I do intricate, intricate panels. I do everything is thorough. And let me just throw one at you is cholesterol. Okay. That's one that. We know how controversial that is and I've spent years working with cardiologists on this. But anyway, that's one. If you don't get comprehensive, you're not getting the proper document, the proper results. Right. So if we don't do comprehensive hormonal panels, then we don't really know. One of the key things that. That I run into is that like what you brought up earlier to go back to this really quickly as you asked me, why are people just jumping on TRT and everything like that? Well, they're not. They're. They think if they have a low testosterone number then that's just it. They need trt. They're not looking at the other factors. I can go in and you. If I run your blood panel right now and you say. Let's say your. Your testosterone numbers 250. Very low. Right. But if I'm not analyzing your free testosterone and say, hey, your SHBG is high. If we get this lower, it's going to free up what's bound. Your numbers are going to go back up. We may not even need trt. And that's just one example. There's a multitude of things to look at. Like you brought up the thyroid, for example. But you have to look at all of this shit or you're not going to know if you could be mistreating somebody. And if you mistreat somebody, you could exacerbate a problem or create one that's not even there.
[27:34]
A
And what about dhe? This. This is another hormone that a lot of people don't look at too that levels and obviously D3, which is. Which is another. They think it's a vitamin if it's a hormone.
[27:44]
B
Yes. Absolutely. You know, I don't know how well you know Dr. Steven Gundry, but I.
[27:50]
A
Talk to him a lot of him.
[27:52]
B
Yeah. So we talk a lot about one of the most deficient, if not the most deficient that people are is vitamin D. And he's more controversial on some of the things he's older Andand I like it because I like to look at these things and analyze them. But when I see these numbers and it's like, why is everybody so low on this? They're not getting enough sun, they're not eating the right foods, they're not taking the right supplements, and they just don't know. But yes, DHEA is another one that we have to test and look at. And you just look at.
[28:19]
A
Because they all work together. If you just look at one thing, like testosterone or estrogen, if you look at one thing you're missing, everything here works synergistically together, and they're all balanced. There's this harmony, right? So you have to make sure that the thyroid, the dhea, the cortisol, where's that level, your testosterone, everything has to be balanced, right? You just do one thing and then everything else gets out of whack.
[28:45]
B
It's true. You know, we were laughing earlier when I said I was the cellular health coach. Well, I just got out of this class and it was hardcore. And I know a lot, but there was so many things that I learned in here. And what you're talking about, right, the balance, you, dude, it would blow your mind. The smallest little thing that can be off that can throw three other things off. And if you're not checking constantly. Look, one of the things that I despise is when people tell you, oh, I don't need to check that this much or that much. I am a data guy for a reason. And that's why people come to me and hire me is because I don't let you get screwed up. I'm a fixer. That's what people like. I. I'm the guy that fixes you. That's why people come to me when they realize that, that where they're going is not working. And they come to me to fix all their problems because I find it. I find the issues. But then it's. It's just like this. The easy part is getting there when you set a goal. That's the easy part. But the maintenance is the hard part. So maintaining your health and your numbers is hard because you get lazy, you get complacent, you think everything's okay. And then if one thing goes off, instead of getting it checked, you'll go, oh, well, I'm tired, so I need this. And if you don't know, you could create so many more problems for yourself.
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A
Yeah, if you don't, it could be something. Look, you don't know.
[30:04]
B
No, I don't. People will ask me Those type of questions, and I'll say, I'm not your guy. I'm not your guy because I need to sit down with you. I need to do this. I need to look at this. And if you don't want to do it, I am not for you. This is not what I do.
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A
What about this? A lot of times doctors run a blood panel. Even if they run an extensive one, they're looking at your number and they're saying, let's say testosterone as a hormone or DHEA or vitamin D3 or any of the other numbers. And they say, oh, it's in the range. I go, time out, time out, time out. What was the range 30 years ago? And what is the range? According to the German health authorities or the Swiss health. It's a different range. So it's in the range. That means nothing. The next question is, what's the trend? I've had this test done twice a year for the last 10 years. Is it trending down or is it trending up? Or is it. Is it like this? What's the trend? Right or wrong?
[31:04]
B
Absolutely. You know, here's the thing, because I. I work with different labs and different companies and everything. So you go to Quest, you go to LabCorp, and you run these panels, and you're looking at one. And if you like, if I took one from. From just. I'm just making UP Quest and LabCorp because they're the two most popular. And I'm looking at one, and I'm going, why does this one acting like it's so good and this one's telling me it's all screwed up, and what's the correlation here and how and why? You know, I've been dealing with this for a very long time, but it really hit me hard when a couple years ago, they were changing the definition of recession to whatever they wanted. And I thought in my head, I go, really? So we can just now go to Webster and say, hey, Dud, you know, this is what we're gonna do. But it's. I say that because that's what they do with blood panels now, to fit however they want it to be. And I know, I know, I know people don't want to hear this. They don't like men to be masculine. I'm not saying that because I'm making it up or I'm some conspiracy guy. I'm a trenches guy, and I'm about as real as you're gonna get. That is an absolute fact. And anybody that's a man understands that. Look, I Got do. Live your life, do whatever you want. I don't give a. It has nothing to do with me. My point is this, this is well known. And you can watch it just by looking at how they. The verbiage that's used and the way that people are pushed in a direction of, oh, that's bad. I mean, anymore. You're considered just for working out and taking care of yourself. You're considered far right. And I'm like, what? So that's just where you get put into this thing. And it's like, hey, man, I'm just trying to teach people how to take care of themselves. I don't even know half the stuff you're talking about, nor care.
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A
Yeah.
[32:49]
B
You know, and people tie you into this for wanting to do basic things, you know, okay, I have been invited to work on these seed oil committees with, with Maha and do all of this work. And I see people, they. They pass these great things about banning dyes and about banning things that we know are so bad. And they're like, why are they so worried about this Die that? And when they should be worried about whatever SNAP program or whatever the hell else they're talking about, I'm like, listen, this is just how ignorant you are. They're saving lives. They're preventing disease. They're actually looking at the things that are harming us, not people that want to go rip you off and take money and go get a food stamp card and sell it on the dollar to somebody else to go make money off of it. Okay? So before you open your mouth and start running foaming off at the mouth, maybe get the facts on what's really going on here. They're trying to actually make a difference. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. If you're anti health, I'm anti you. You know, I mean, seriously, it just doesn't make sense to me.
[33:52]
A
I know getting rid of a food dye in America is controversial, but time out, time out, time out. I thought we're supposed to follow the science. I thought, follow the science. The science all around the world has said that these red dye number five, I think it is, is poisonous and detrimental to your health. That's what the science says. And it's been. And it's been. It's been agreed by the courts all over the world, which is why that dye is illegal in food all over the world. We're supposed to follow the science, but in America, it's different science. There is no right.
[34:33]
B
I know you remember the show the Twilight Zone. And I was a kid, but I swear that I freaking lived there for the past. I don't know how many years. I, I literally used to. And I won't. I don't want to curse too much, but I just say what the f just happened here? Like, what, what, what happened? I feel like I woke up and it was like when. But you know the Looney Tunes, when he'd turn on the TV and then some evil guy would come on and the thing would come and hypnotize him and would glaze over and they'd start being evil Bugs Bunny. That's like what we're living in. Seriously. And I'm just like the most common of common senses here. What you just said. If this thing is illegal in every other country but here, how could that not be a. Well, one. How is that not concerning exactly?
[35:15]
A
Because that's what the science says. All we're supposed to follow the science.
[35:19]
B
No, you're not. Because you're not supposed to ask questions. You're just supposed to just do what you're told. And that's another thing. How can you argue or say to not ask questions when we wouldn't have had lights or cars or. What do you think the most brilliant people didn't question and ask everything that we have? I'm totally lost. Science changes. That's why we study and learn things. How do you think they, how do you think they came up with their glorious vaccine? Well, they had to study and learn the, the, the virus, right? So if that's just how, how they speak out of both sides of their ass. If, if you, if you're following the science, you got to learn this and study and you got to question it because it can't just fall in line.
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A
I mean, all right, we got a reel back in. We got a real bad. Let's go back to the. Let's. I'm weaving food and health and longevity. All right, now, precursors to hormones and health. There are a couple things out there and tell me your opinion on them. One is deer antler velvet said that if you take it. And a lot of sports athletes have taken it. And actually it was in the news where a lot of athletes, because it said it built up, it allows the body to produce testosterone more naturally and has other health anti aging benefits. Any thoughts about that?
[36:36]
B
I remember when that first came out and I looked at it, I just started laughing. I just started laughing at the name or whatever. I mean, look, look what you're gonna find from things like That I. I really think are honestly like 70 to 80% placebo effect. If you want to go look at numbers and take one of those and look at them, the boost that you're gonna get is very minimal.
[36:58]
A
There's a lot of testosterone boosters out there. Yeah, Ton Jack. There's different, you know, herbs, maca, et cetera, et cetera, that allegedly have some research showing that if you take this, it stimulates testosterone and other hormone production to increase masculinity energies, et cetera, et cetera. And again, it's. You know, there's a lot of people that, okay, placebo or whatever, antidotal evidence say that it got great results. And there are studies that show some of it actually based on the numbers, you know, looked pretty good. I remember when I was taking one of those things, and I went and got my testosterone checked, and the guy says, oh, you're on testosterone therapy? I said, no. He goes, well, you have 1200. It's like, of course you are. And I said, no, I'm not. He said, what do you. What do you. No. And he says, that's impossible. I said, I'm taking a couple of these boosters, you know, and maybe that helps. And he goes, what's the name of it?
[38:02]
B
You know, I. I've been in the supplement business since 2011, so I have seen it all, been around it all. I actually design formulas. I've designed testosterone boosters. I've designed, you know, fat loss compounds, things like that, and just sold them to companies or helped build.
[38:19]
A
And most of them were bs, Right?
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B
Well, I would say you need to. You need to have the right expectation. Okay? So when with testosterone boosters, 90 of that is marketed so well. I mean, they. Some of those companies have so much money, and they can make you. You feel like you're juicing up your testosterone. And. And look, the first time you take one of those, you're gonna feel pretty good. But if you go, like, I have run so many tests and done so many things, especially guys that are, you know, either experiencing an issue or using steroids or whatever, they don't do much of anything for people like that. Now, I will tell you this. One of the things that I like to do is if a woman comes to me with low testosterone and. And the ability for these natural ones to boost the amounts that you need, sometimes it's the answer for a woman.
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A
That way they don't have to take the hormone replacement therapy. And it's always better to do some precursor first.
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B
All right, So I always Try it.
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A
So what about peptides? Explain exactly what a peptide is. Because that's a word that we're hearing a lot. I knew about it years ago, but again, it's a misnomer. Sometimes it's misused, it's misunderstood. Explain peptides.
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B
So one of the benefits that I've had doing what I do is, you know, that peptides really started to get more mainstream and in the front fourth, I don't know, within five years. I learned about them in 2011 and what I found back then was I was quite astounded because they were grouped with like performance enhancing drugs, man. All they are are short chains of amino acids. In reality, that's all they are. And short chains of amino acids are building blocks of proteins. They're naturally occurring in our body. Now there's some that you're taking, they're exogenous and, etc. However, peptides I believe, and, and this may be a bold statement, this is just what I believe, that it doesn't, it's not pro, it's nothing more than that. But I believe that this is the future of like the therapies that we're going to have in a lot of things if we're able to get past, you know, big pharma. That's a big, big.
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Because the peptides are effectively natural because they're just amino acid chains.
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B
Yes.
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A
So they're effectively natural and they stimulate the body to do something as opposed to adding testosterone or adding something, you're letting the body create it as it was designed, human growth hormone. You can take the injection of human growth hormone before you go to bed or you can do something that stimulates the body to produce more human growth hormone, which is obviously better as your first choice. But if you're 80 years old and your body ain't producing any more human growth hormone or testosterone, by gosh, take it because you're going to feel infinitely better and look younger and live longer and have a much better quality of life. Right or wrong.
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B
I love, I love, I love that you are versed on this and you know what you're saying. So when I started there were like nine peptides to choose from and most of them were growth releasing and hormone like, or growth releasing hormone peptides. Right. So basically all that we're doing here, so it's a GHRP or a ghrh and they do exactly what you said. Instead of taking actual hgh, you're taking these which are stimulating your body to produce growth hormone on its own, which ideally we want to do unless there's some serious issue where it's just not going to work. But some of these are so damn strong. They, they, they, there's no issue there. And you can do them into your 80s. I mean, they're tremendous. So when I started out, like I said, there was about nine or ten to pick from. And both, most of them all did that. There were different variations that had a. Different mechanisms of action, so to speak. And then there was melanitan too, which is for getting your skin darker and increased libido and things like that. And mind you, now there's thousands and they're constantly being developed. And I'm talking, I'm a big cellular health guy, so I'm looking at the ones that are, you know, helping to stimulate mitophagy and autophagy. We're built rebuilding mitochondria, cellular health. Keeping, keeping you young, making you look.
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A
And feel younger and live long.
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B
Yes.
[42:31]
A
And maintain superior health.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
Okay, mitochondria. People at home are going, who to condo. What is that? Like a snake in, in the anaconda? Is that. I heard of the anaconda, but I haven't heard of the mitochondria.
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B
Let me make, I'll make it very simple because this is very important. But you're right. So mitochondria, that's what's in all of our cells that produce our energy. Right. So to make it very simple, it's the powerhouse of your cells. Your cells are what make you live. When your cells start to die, we start to die. So as we get older, what happens is our cellular health declines and cells start to fill up with junk. Okay? Just think of it as a trash can that's continuously filling up. They become senescent, which means they're dead, but they're still there when they're full. And then you know what happens when they're full and they overflow? It empties all throughout your body, so it kills your cells and then that's how disease and inflammation starts. So what we do is we try to prevent that from happening by stimulating mitophagy, which is the repair of your mitochondria, improving cellular health, focusing on the cellular membrane, which is this, the what keeps the cell, you know, protected. And things like, I'll just throw a couple names, Mots C. That's a big peptide for cellular health and mitochondria that I love. SS31. But then there's other ones that we look at, like epitalon, for example, that helps with sleep, fixing circadian rhythm. There's, there's Celan and cmax, which go hand in hand for people that are struggling with anxiety and stress. I mean, there's literally something for everything. There's things that have, they'll, they'll be preventative in terms of helping you to hopefully mitigate or prevent onset Alzheimer's. There's things for cardiovascular and heart health then certainly anti aging erectile dysfunction, PT141, for example. I mean, the list is endless. Kevin. And that's why I love it so much because there's something for everybody, for everything.
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A
We could go on for hours and hours and I want to have you back on the show because we didn't really talk about which I wanted to, but we are, we're going to talk about exosomes, we're going to talk about telomeres or telomeres, however you want to pronounce it. Everybody has a different pronunciation. We're going to talk about what foods to avoid to maintain superior dynamic health. What foods to you eat more of, what order, if there's an order. What about glucose levels and what stimulates that? Because that increases inflammation. There's so many. You're like, oh yeah, there's so much more we can talk about and I'm absolutely going to have you back on because you are brilliant. But the bottom line is everybody who's watched, we just got a minute left. Everybody who's watching, if they want to improve the quality of their health, they have to look. And a hormone panel is a good place to start. But either a blood and, or like I did, the five different saliva throughout the day, but a complete full spectrum panel and you really look at that and consider whether it's peptide therapy or consider hormone replacement therapy, bioidentical, probably the best or some precursors if you don't want to go down that road, including HGH, human growth hormone, IGF1, insulin, growth hormone factor, et cetera. You know all this better than anybody, so, so I love it. We're gonna have you back. But one last question before you go. Everybody who's watching can. Is it possible for them to increase the quality of their health and feel better?
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B
Oh, absolutely. Start. Step one is getting a better sleep cycle. Get your day right and start from there and just increase good habits each and every day. I'm telling you right now, it's not just possible, it's a necessity that we all can do very easily without spending a lot of money. It's just time, effort and keep it on the right track. Mentally, you are the best.
[46:34]
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Dylan Gemelli, thanks very much for being my guest. You are brilliant. We're going to have you back on again. Have a super, super day. If you're watching right now, this is Kevin Trudeau, the Kevin Trudeau Show, Limitless. Make sure you subscribe, leave a comment, forward this to everyone like it. Subscribe to the show. Tell your friends, relatives, neighbors, and listen, listen. Look out for your own health. You can feel better now. You don't have to hurt anymore. You can look and feel 10, 20 years younger than you do right now. Just doing some simple steps, not spending a lot of money. You don't have to go down these rabbit holes and spend insane amounts of money and spend insane amounts of time. You can dramatically improve the quality of life and the way you feel and the way you look right now. I'm Kevin Trudeau. Thanks for watching. Until next time, you can be, do and have anything and everything you desire. Much love, everybody. Bye bye. Hey, if you like that show, I did another show a while back on a subject similar to this and I think you're gonna love it. So click on the link and watch this other show that I picked out just for you. The 10 foods that you need to be eating if you want to have a better sex life, both for men and women.