The Dylan Gemelli Podcast – Episode #55 Featuring Dr. Jabin Moore

Title: HOW CONVENTIONAL HEALTH CARE GETS IT WRONG! The Neurotoxic Loop, Complex Chronic Illness, EXPOSING WATER QUALITY and CONTAMINANTS, Dangers of Mold, and more!
Release Date: October 6, 2025
Host: Dylan Gemelli
Guest: Dr. Jabin Moore, Functional Medicine Practitioner

Overview

This episode of The Dylan Gemelli Podcast features a deep and candid conversation with Dr. Jabin Moore, a leading functional medicine expert with a passion for uncovering the real root causes of chronic health problems. Drawing on personal and professional experience, Dr. Moore and Dylan Gemelli examine the failures of conventional healthcare, the compounding realities of chronic illness, the powerful effects of environmental toxins (from mold to uranium in water), and the necessity of an individualized, honest approach to healing. The discussion is rich with practical insights, relatable analogies, and a balance between science and a genuine human touch.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

Dr. Moore’s Background & The “Backpack” Analogy

• [03:44] Dr. Moore describes his entry into root cause medicine, born from witnessing his mother's preventable health decline.
  • “You’re not broken, you just haven’t had the right approach.” – Dr. Jabin Moore
  • He explains the “backpack analogy”—the idea that the burdens and traumas we accumulate (emotional, environmental, physical) weigh us down cumulatively, leading to illness.

Questioning Conventional Healthcare, Logical Health Principles

• [07:45] Dr. Moore argues that health isn't as complicated as many are made to believe; basic logical rules apply.
  • “If you eat ultra-high-processed food, you’re not going to be well long term. If you don’t sleep, you’re not going to be well long term.” – Dr. Jabin Moore
• He challenges the dogma that parasites, heavy metals, and environmental toxins are irrelevant to chronic disease.

Overcoming Personal Health Crises & The Evolution of Functional Medicine

• [11:00] Dr. Moore details his personal struggle with Lyme disease and the lack of holistic answers in conventional or even early-stage functional medicine.
  • “I don’t want a band-aid, I want a solution. What’s the problem?” – Dr. Jabin Moore [12:15]
• The journey led him to seek new answers, each step revealing more—Lyme, parasites, heavy metals, mold, then radioactive elements like uranium in water.

The Value of Continual Questioning & Medical Skepticism

• [17:01] Both Dylan and Dr. Moore stress the need to continually question dogma in science and medicine.
  • “During COVID… it became, don’t question anything. And I’m thinking, really, since when? How does that work?” – Dylan Gemelli
  • Discussion of a “publish or perish” culture where even bogus research can make it to journals ([19:39]).

The Neurotoxic Loop & Complex Chronic Illness

• [28:04] Dr. Moore’s central model:
  • Neurotoxic Loop = chronic, self-perpetuating cycle between neural (trauma, stress) and toxic (environmental, infectious) burdens
  • Both can independently or collectively cause and sustain chronic illness.
  • Trauma can trigger inflammation similar to infections.
  • “Did you know that trauma can actually trigger the same inflammatory response as Covid?” – Dr. Jabin Moore [29:43]
  • 50–70% of American homes have water-damage-related mold issues.
• Emphasis on mold, heavy metals, radioactive elements, Lyme disease, parasites, and viruses as components of this loop.

Testing & Diagnostics: Challenges and Nuance

• [32:37] Dr. Moore criticizes standard parasite and toxin testing:
  • “Human parasite testing is just crap in the United States. …Most people have parasites. Is your body suppressed enough by everything else that we've mentioned… to allow the parasite to get out of hand and cause you damage? Because they're there. But are they pathogenic is the question.”
• Environmental and emotional factors are equally weighted in his intake.

The Individualized Approach & The Danger of One-Size-Fits-All

• [35:49] Dr. Moore describes the classic split among clients: some over-focus on mindset (neglecting toxins), others on physical protocols (neglecting emotional healing).
  • “You’ve done everything over here, we’re going over to this side. …It’s different for each person. And I’m going, we’re going to start by making sure you’re pooping, opening up your pathways…” – Dr. Jabin Moore [38:34]
• There is no universal protocol; every client must be met where they are.

Adaptive Health vs. Perfectionism

• [22:15] Both stress that true health is robustness and adaptability, not perfection or obsessive control.
  • “If they want to go out and go on the golf course, have an old fashioned afterward, they should be healthy enough their body can handle that.” – Dr. Jabin Moore [22:43]
  • “You’re healthy when you can wake up and although you have a routine, if it breaks, you’re fine. If you forgot your supplements, you’re good.” – Dr. Jabin Moore [22:58]
• They warn against health becoming another burden.

Water Quality & Environmental Toxins

• [50:34] A practical segment on checking local water contaminants:
  • “Everybody that’s listening needs to literally go get on their computer, pull up EWG water database dot org.”
  • “Distillers… are the only way I have found to actually remove [uranium, radium, cesium, thallium] and not get into your body.” – Dr. Jabin Moore [53:02]
• RE reverse osmosis: suitable for most, but not for serious radioactive contaminants.

Multiple Toxicity & Failing “Guideline” Standards

• [54:32] The problem: government “safe” levels only account for single toxins, not the combined/synergistic effect of modern exposures.
  • “Do you know how they figured [out the legal limits]? Fiscal budget. …Fiscal budget is the way that it was decided how much crap could be in your water.” – Dr. Jabin Moore [55:13]

The Practitioner’s Role: Humility, Accountability, Authenticity

• [45:39, 48:12] Dr. Moore sees his role as part detective, part educator, part coach—admitting his limits but always pushing to learn more.
  • “A statement that I’ve learned is I don’t know. And another statement, I’ll figure it out.” – Dr. Jabin Moore [45:44]
  • “You can talk to a patient and say, you know, I don't know, but we're going to figure this out.” – Dr. Jabin Moore [48:12]
• Dylan and Dr. Moore agree that credibility comes from honesty and a willingness to refer or collaborate.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:44] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “There is not one thing, right? There's never one thing that brings us to our breaking point. There are multiple things that bring us there. …It's this backpack analogy of your life.”
• [07:45] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “I'm here to be the first to tell you… health is pretty freaking logical.”
• [12:15] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “I don't want a band aid, I want a solution. What's the problem?”
• [22:43] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “My goal for every client I work with is… to get them to the ability to be able to adapt to the world and still enjoy it sometimes.”
• [29:43] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “Did you know that trauma can actually trigger the same inflammatory response as COVID?”
• [34:11] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “The study from Kaiser showed that if you had a childhood adverse event… it increased your likelihood of an autoimmune condition 80%.”
• [45:44] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “A statement that I've learned is I don't know. And another statement, I'll figure it out.”
• [53:02] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “If you get a distiller, you will never ever go back. ... Once you have gotten a distiller and you use it for a month and then you have to go and clean it, you can't unsee it.”
• [55:13] Dr. Jabin Moore:
  “Fiscal budget is the way that it was decided how much crap could be in your water.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:44 – Dr. Moore’s personal background and health philosophy
• 07:45 – Challenging the dogma of “complicated health” and parasite denial
• 11:00 – Lyme disease story & paradigm shift in Dr. Moore’s practice
• 19:39 – Scientific skepticism and erosion of medical trust
• 28:04 – Introduction to the “neurotoxic loop” model
• 32:37 – Parasites, mold, water contaminants; criticism of standard testing
• 38:34 – Individualized healing: intake process and protocol customization
• 45:39 – The practitioner’s mindset: humility and flexibility
• 50:34 – Water quality deep dive, practical testing and filtration advice
• 53:02 – Distillers vs. reverse osmosis and the “cleaning the tank” revelation
• 54:32 – Government guidelines and compounded toxicity exposures
• 55:13 – The real story behind “acceptable” toxicity in public water supplies

Tone and Final Thoughts

Blending candor, lived experience, and evidence-based reasoning, Dylan Gemelli and Dr. Jabin Moore offer listeners a compelling, relatable, and actionable roadmap for confronting complex, chronic health issues. The conversation is refreshingly honest about limitations—in knowledge, medicine, protocols, and human adaptability—and is peppered with moments of humor and empathy that reinforce its authenticity.

The episode closes with a genuine call for ongoing collaboration, honesty, and empowering individuals to do their own research, ask hard questions, and take control of their health journey.

Follow Dr. Jabin Moore

• Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, Website: Dr. Jabin Moore (J-A-B-A-N Moore)

Further Listening

The episode promises a part two, especially to delve into the impacts of dentistry and environmental exposures.