The Dylan Gemelli Podcast

Episode #68 Featuring Bizzie Gold: The Break Method, Decoding & Unlocking Your True Self
Release Date: November 20, 2025

Overview

In this compelling episode, Dylan Gemelli sits down in Sandpoint, Idaho, with Bizzie Gold—innovator behind the Break Method and host of the "Decoded" podcast—to uncover the fundamentals of mental rewiring, overcoming trauma, the integral role of spirituality, reframing mental illness, and the power of self-deception. The duo dive deep into personal journeys, faith, and practical strategies for unlocking one’s true self.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Faith and Professional Practice

• Faith as a Driver: Both Dylan and Bizzie speak candidly about their spiritual beliefs, openly crediting faith and divine guidance as the core of their personal and professional lives.
• Break Method’s Foundation: Bizzie ties the Break Method’s principles to Romans 12:2, emphasizing the need for transforming and renewing the mind to align more closely with one’s divine purpose.

“Break Method is a renewing of the mind, and it’s helping us understand how these early childhood experiences start to carve away at us and turn us into a sculpture. And it’s often not the sculpture that God called us to be.”
— Bizzie Gold [05:05]

2. Understanding Early Childhood Trauma

• Brain Pattern Spectrum: Through 12 years of data and research, Bizzie identifies two primary childhood trajectories influencing brain patterns:
  • Left Side: Early trauma and instability breed resilience, independence, and a thriving drive in career settings, but often at the cost of relational challenges.
  • Right Side: Stable childhoods may foster dependence, authority-trusting mindsets, and less situational awareness.
• Parental Authority and Divine Guidance: Overemphasizing parental authority can obstruct one’s relationship with God and self-trust.

“When you’re only following yourself and you’re not giving away your… trust and not creating dependency with any other perceived authority figure, you’re able to very easily follow Holy Spirit and follow God because there’s this hyper-independence and there’s a high level of self-trust.”
— Bizzie Gold [08:35]

3. Decoding Reality and Self-Deception

• Origins of Decoded Podcast:
  • “To me, the word ‘decoded’ means that there is something that needs to be understood and broken down that is antagonistic to what the status quo is trying to convince you to look at.”
    — Bizzie Gold [11:04]
• Media and Programming: Bizzie discusses how knowledge is constructed and disseminated from childhood (e.g., textbooks linked to powerful interests), emphasizing the importance of questioning sources—AI included.
  • “If you flood the internet with lies about your company or yourself… the AI will then return that information to you because it’s the most prevalently seen thing.”
    — Dylan Gemelli [13:48]
• Mechanisms of Self-Deception: Personal experiences of childhood trauma, especially with a parent suffering mental illness (borderline personality disorder), inspired Bizzie’s lifelong quest to understand—and teach—how self-deception rules our perception.
  • Notably, a scene from Fight Club at age 13 flipped Bizzie’s understanding:

  "Oh my good lord, crazy people don’t know they're crazy… what is the mechanism of self-deception and how can that become so strong that people can’t see their way out of it?”
  — Bizzie Gold [16:57]

4. Experiential Learning vs. Traditional Credentials

• Divine Revelation over Formal Schooling:
  • Bizzie attributes her expertise to lived experience, self-study, and direct spiritual guidance, purposefully practicing “intentional ignorance” to receive clear, unfiltered divine messages.

  “There is no reason that I should do any of the things that I know because I did not go to school for it… my walk with Holy Spirit has led me to something that I practice called intentional ignorance.”
  — Bizzie Gold [21:02]

• Peer-Reviewed Success:
  • Announcing first on Dylan’s show, Bizzie shares a significant milestone: a peer-reviewed study showing 86% efficacy of Break Method for those with suicidal ideation and OCD.

  “We finally have our first peer reviewed study… 86% efficacy with those struggling with suicidal ideation and OCD, which is very exciting.”
  — Bizzie Gold [24:02]

5. Purpose, Freedom, and “Sneaky Jesus” in Break Method

• Purpose Defined:
  • “To set the captives free. Most people are completely imprisoned by their own thoughts and their patterns of self-deception.”
    — Bizzie Gold [27:53]
• Secular Delivery, Spiritual Roots:
  • Though rooted in Christian perspective, Break Method is intentionally non-religious to avoid triggering religious trauma—letting results speak and “sneaky Jesus” plant seeds for spiritual inquiry.

  “While a lot of believers hate and think that I’m wrong for not making Break Method Christian, I like to call it sneaky Jesus. And I think sneaky Jesus can be a very effective strategy.”
  — Bizzie Gold [31:43]

• Restoring Connection:
  • By rewiring self-deception, people can not only heal mentally but also become open to deeper spiritual connections.

6. Reframing Mental Illness

• Labels & Self-Fulfilling Prophecies:
  • Bizzie is adamant that mental illness, as commonly conceived, is often a socially and clinician-constructed label rooted in downstream behaviors rather than measurable biochemical markers.

  “My baseline answer to this is mental illness is not real in the way that we have been led to believe that it’s real. There are no, no explicit biochemical markers. There is no test per se that you can do for mental illness…”
  — Bizzie Gold [47:49]

• The Rosenhan Experiment:
  • This classic study is used to demonstrate the dangers and self-perpetuation of diagnostic labels, especially when ascribed to children, leading to years of unjustified intervention and self-doubt.
  • “The injustice of having to go 20 years being told, ‘this is who you are, you just have bipolar, you will always have bipolar,’ and then to pop out of it on the other side and be like, ‘I don’t.’”

7. Break Method Mechanics: Neurocognitive Funnels & Language

• From Perception to Behavior:
  • The Break Method targets distorted perceptions of reality that originate in early childhood. These perceptions create emotional and behavioral patterns—healing means addressing the source, not the symptoms.

  “Why are we out here trying to change people’s behavior? At the level of behavior, we have to be able to understand their distorted perception of reality because it is formulaic.”
  — Bizzie Gold [41:27]

• Changing the Inner Language:
  • By disrupting old language and labeling systems, the Method enables present-moment cognitive freedom and a reassertion of agency, echoing a biblical principle: “Take every thought captive.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being equipped by faith:

  “What makes you powerful… is when you know you’re equipped. Not that you’re cocky… it’s called trust and faith. And then you know you’re equipped and it doesn’t matter because you’re well prepared to handle it.”
  — Dylan Gemelli [37:26]

• On the universal necessity of Break Method:

  “We’re all fucked up. I think that’s my biggest takeaway from all of this, is that this impacts every single one of us… there are always ways that you can become even better than that.”
  — Bizzie Gold [44:45]

• On the convergence of mind, body, and spirit:

  “If we can’t heal their mind and fix it, nothing’s going to be fixed… it all ties together… but this is the most important because it plays the most tricks and causes the most problems.”
  — Dylan Gemelli [46:15]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:25] Bizzie reflects on integrating faith with her practice and arguments within the faith community.
• [05:56] Early childhood trauma, brain pattern mapping, and the pattern spectrum.
• [11:04] The genesis and meaning of the “Decoded” podcast.
• [12:38] Media, textbooks, and the shaping of collective knowledge.
• [16:57] Bizzie’s personal revelation about self-deception (inspired by Fight Club).
• [21:02] “Intentional ignorance” and receiving revelation through faith.
• [24:02] First peer-reviewed study showing efficacy of Break Method.
• [27:53] Bizzie’s declared purpose: “to set the captives free.”
• [31:43] Sneaky Jesus: Letting spiritual truth emerge organically.
• [41:27] Neurocognitive funnel and the logic behind behavior change.
• [47:49] Rethinking mental illness and the implications of diagnostic labels.

Closing & Further Information

Find Bizzie Gold & Break Method:

• Website: breakmethod.com — Start with brain pattern mapping.
• Instagram: @busiegold
• Podcast: "Decoded" (Dylan’s episode available soon)

Bizzie Gold and Dylan Gemelli deliver a candid, faith-infused conversation that moves from the vulnerabilities of childhood and the invisible architecture of self-deception, to groundbreaking approaches to mental health and true personal freedom. The episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone striving to break free from limiting patterns and uncover their divine path.