Episode #99 Featuring Dr. Daniel Pompa!! A dramatic journey of healing and discovery, The HARD TRUTH about toxicity, food safety and pushing back against false narratives and misleading marketing!

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The Dylan Gemelli Podcast

Episode #99 Featuring Dr. Daniel Pompa

Date: March 10, 2026
Theme: The Hard Truth About Toxicity, Food Safety, and Exposing Misleading Health Narratives

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Overview

In this vibrant and deeply insightful episode, host Dylan Gemelli welcomes renowned functional health expert Dr. Daniel Pompa for a raw and dramatic exploration of chronic illness, environmental toxins, food safety, and the pitfalls of modern medicine and misleading marketing. Through personal stories, evidence-based insights, and lively dialogue, Dylan and Dr. Pompa pull back the curtain on what’s really making us sick, how to reverse damage from toxins, and why modern “solutions” often miss the root cause.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power of Personal Stories in Healing

Dr. Pompa reveals how both his and Dylan's journeys through adversity provide unique authority and the power to help others.

• Quote [05:41]:
  “Your authority doesn’t come from your education, your brilliance...it comes from the victory God gave you.” — Dr. Pompa
• Faith and lived experience offer credibility and empathy to connect with suffering listeners.

2. Dr. Pompa’s Journey: From Perfect Health to Mysterious Illness

Timestamps: 07:28 – 16:57

• In 1999, Dr. Pompa suffered shocking health collapse: persistent fatigue, anxiety, insomnia, thinning hair, mood swings, gut issues.
• After exhaustive, fruitless medical visits and told he was “healthier than the doctors,” Dr. Pompa discovered underlying heavy metal toxicity—largely from dental amalgams, tuna intake, and even past contact lens solutions.
• Quote [12:54]:
  “Those fillings contain 50% mercury. If people didn’t know that, 50% mercury.” — Dr. Pompa

3. The Perfect Storm: Chronic Disease Is Cumulative

Timestamps: 15:56 – 17:04

• Chronic illness rarely has a single cause; it’s usually a “perfect storm” of multiple stressors and toxins over time.
• Dr. Pompa: “It just compounds and builds and before you know it, boom.” [15:56]

4. Mercury, Aluminum, and Root Causes of Hormonal Disruption

Timestamps: 17:04 – 23:00

• Getting “silver” (mercury) fillings and gold crowns creates an electrical “battery effect,” supercharging mercury release into the brain.
• Safe removal isn’t enough—detoxing locked-in brain mercury is key, alongside tackling aluminum from cookware, deodorants, jet fuel, and more.
• Many endocrine and mental health issues start upstream in the brain’s control towers (hypothalamus, pituitary), NOT just the adrenals or thyroid.
• Quote [20:17]: “Ninety percent of [dental amalgam] mercury ends up in the pituitary/hypothalamus... that’s what runs your thyroid.” — Dr. Pompa

5. Oral Health: Root Canals & Cavitations

Timestamps: 22:21 – 27:08

• Oral infections, root canals, and hidden “cavitations” (jaw infection post-extraction) drive a massive share of immune, gut, and even cancer problems, yet remain invisible to standard tests.
• Cone-beam scans can reveal these hidden infections—treating them often yields immediate, sometimes dramatic health recoveries.

6. The Role of Environmental Toxins

Timestamps: 28:19 – 41:47

• Dr. Pompa estimates that 95% of modern chronic disease is rooted in toxins, not just processed foods themselves, but chemicals in water, personal care, and household products.
• Massive increases in glyphosate, plastics, heavy metals, and persistent chemicals coincide with today’s explosion of autoimmune disease, diabetes, thyroid issues, and cancers—even in children.
• Quote [29:00]:
  “Water is a carrier of the problem. Makeup, personal care products...now a carrier of the problem.” — Dr. Pompa

7. Vaccine Science and Public Health Narratives

Timestamps: 29:58 – 47:41

• Discussion unpacks vaccine safety, lack of rigorous placebo-controlled trials, systemic regulatory capture, and the cultural divide over vaccine policy—citing the work of Aaron Siri, RFK Jr., and others.
• Harsh criticism of industry-driven decisions and the lack of true science backing many safety claims.
• Quote [33:36]:
  “Medical doctors don’t know anything about vaccines...the only ones who think they know anything are the vaccinologists.” — Dr. Pompa

8. Media, Marketing, and the Fight Against Misinformation

Timestamps: 56:23 – 63:26

• Dr. Pompa and Dylan discuss the challenges of educating the public and the backlash for “fear mongering,” as well as the need to push back against widely accepted but harmful consumer habits (e.g., plastic-wrapped chicken, toxic personal care products).
• Both stress the personal buy-in—only sharing tips they live out themselves.

9. Everyday Detox: Actionable Advice

Timestamps: 64:47 – 68:52

• Focus on “Big Rocks”:
  • Water: Avoid tap, use RO filters.
  • Food: Go organic; avoid the dirtiest conventional produce.
  • Personal Care: Scent-free, free from industrial fragrance/toxins.
  • Clothing: Beware of detergents, fabric softeners, and synthetic materials.
  • Oral Health: Address old dental work, especially amalgams and root canals.
• Total avoidance isn’t possible, but minimizing major exposures provides enormous benefit.

10. Realistic Hope: Return to Simpler, Healthier Living

Timestamps: 70:34 – 74:17

• If the US simply returned to the standards of the 1970s–80s (less chemical use in food, water, and home) most chronic illness would vanish.
• Quote [71:08]: “Yes, you did eat organic—you just didn’t know it. They weren’t spraying glyphosate in the ’70s.” — Dr. Pompa

11. Debunking Conventional “Solutions”: Drugs, Hormone Therapy, the Food Pyramid

Timestamps: 75:09 – 79:03

• Regular medical approaches (statins, hormone therapy) often address symptoms, never root causes.
• Notable Moment:
  • Cardiologists like Jack Wolfson are now openly calling cholesterol “the most important fat in the body.”
• The now-flipped Food Pyramid: Discussing how mainstream guidelines have failed, and how public awareness is finally exposing the errors.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Healing:
  “My program is to teach people the process so they can do detox long enough to matter.” — Dr. Pompa [21:27]
• On Chemicals in Foods:
  “If you can’t read it, don’t eat it...It’s processed chemical food.” — Dr. Pompa [39:47]
• On Raising Awareness:
  “You could spot the Americans from...In France it’s the same way. They eat a ton of fat and carbohydrates. Why is their diabetes rate half? The chemicals aren’t there.” — Dr. Pompa [40:19]
• On Vaccine Debate:
  “Where are the apologies? Everyone knows that vaccine was a fail. It didn’t protect. Not my opinion, it didn’t protect.” — Dr. Pompa [48:02]
• Food for Thought:
  “Cholesterol doesn’t cause heart attacks. Cholesterol is the best, the most important fat in the body.” — Dr. Pompa (as recalled, quoting Dr. Jack Wolfson) [76:22]

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Fast Facts & Actionable Takeaways

• Up to 95% of chronic disease is linked to toxin exposure (Dr. Pompa’s estimate).
• Thyroid disease and diabetes: Largely toxin-induced, not simply due to food or genetics.
• “If you have a thyroid condition, you have a toxic condition.” — Dr. Pompa [38:28]
• Hidden oral infections (root canals, cavitations) may drive unexplained chronic symptoms.
• Switch to organic, scent-free personal and home products wherever possible.
• Reverse osmosis (RO) filtration is a must for city tap water.
• Raise awareness — “if you can’t pronounce it, don’t put it on or in your body.”

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Resources & Further Learning

• Dr. Pompa’s Program: pompaprogram.com – Free classes and webinars
• Instagram: @drpompa
• The Dr. Pompa Podcast
• Books mentioned:
  • Vaccines by Aaron Siri
  • Documentary: An Inconvenient Study by Del Bigtree

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a sweeping call to examine not just what we eat, but the hidden environmental and medical factors undermining public health. With an energetic blend of storytelling, science, and unfiltered commentary, Dylan and Dr. Pompa challenge listeners to think critically, do their own research, and take practical, long-term action for lasting health.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, thanks for having me. We did have a blast that day. We did. We're gonna have a blast today.

[A]

We're gonna have more of it, and

[B]

we're gonna educate some people on some amazing topics. But, yeah, you know, I. I said this right before we started recording here. Your story just blew me away, captivated me. I mean, we. We went on and on. I even realized it was, you know, beyond two hours, I think. Yes, it was. Yeah. I. I mean, hon, felt like you had so much to offer because of what you've been through. I. You know, I was lecturing in Africa one time, and this was Zimbabwe. And there was two big leaders in Zimbabwe at that time. Mingabe and a guy named Gatsi. It was like, evil and good. Okay. I'm telling them. And the people, like, you know, people love Gatsby because, you know, this guy was changing the nation. This guy was ruining it. Right? So anyway, here I am at this leadership conference, and first time there's presidents of countries in the room. I mean, it was a big deal. And it's the first time I was lecturing with a interpreter. Right. And that was weird because I was. There was a timing thing. Right, Right. So it was kind of a little bit awkward. I was like, not in my game. Right. But anyway, so after I'm done speaking, Gatsby comes in a brisk pace down. Right down the center of the hour, right towards me. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, first is. What did I say? That's what I. What did I say? I'm like, I. I must have said something. Maybe it was the interpreter, right? I don't. But I could tell he was coming for me. So I start walking off, and of course, he meets me, and he looks me in the eye. He says, Dr. Pompa, your authority doesn't come from your education, your brilliance. You're this, you're that, and it comes from the victory God gave you. And he turned around and walked away. And I said, like, what did I say that that made him say that? And I. And I didn't even process, like, what he meant by it. I was just, like, processing what I made him say that. And I was not even understanding if it was good or bad. This is what he said. Now, in hindsight, looking back, I understand what he meant, you know, meaning that my story, you know, your story, your story, my story, their story is where not only our purpose is, but it's where our authority is. Meaning if you're going to change lives, your story is where you change it from. But you told your story. I realized how much authority you had for people out there that were just suffering you know, dealing with addictions, dealing with. You know, because here you are on the other side, making a difference. So your authority comes from the victory God gave you. I love. Yeah. Anyways, it was years later that I. I realized, you know, what he meant, you know, and it was like I realized that God just laid that on his heart like that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So it wasn't something that I said. It was just something God gave him. And he's a man of God, so he just. God gave it to him. He was going to tell me, and he rushed down the aisle to tell me, so I'm telling you the same.

[A]

Isn't it amazing how, like, your faith works, though, because you understand things in a moment, but then it. It never ends. You can read the same reading over and over, and you take something different from it every time. So what you're saying, too, is so true, is I knew a lot, and I keep. And it resonates, and then it. It's. It rears its head later, what it actually means, and then you get it.

[B]

Yeah. That's the thing, is it took me years to get it. Yeah. You know, and I. There was a time where I. I forgot about it, frankly. And it was something like this, right? Where it was like, well, let me tell you what someone told me once. It was like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That is it, you know, and through the years, I've watched that, you know, the lives that changed. I was lecturing, I had, like, a little meet and greet here in Scottsdale, and a woman came up to me. It was like, I heard your story, and that was me, and I joined your program. And let me tell you how not just my life changed, but my family's. And she, like, went on and she told me her whole story, but again, it was my story that she said she trusted because she had spent a lot of money doing a lot of things, and she heard my story and was like, okay, you know, I trust that because that's me.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So, yeah, likewise, you know, you have an opportunity to change the world because of what you've been through. That's it.

[A]

And you are well, and I appreciate that. And that brings us to yours, because who you are and what you became is shaped around everything that happened to you and what you went through. And, I mean, I. I know your story well, but a lot of people may not, and I. I want to get into that. I. I generally don't start there, but yours is so personal and incredible, and it really shapes who you are and why you are, who. Who you are today.

[B]

So, yeah, it was around 1999, the end of 99, 2000. And your life was very good. I'm gonna be honest. I had two young boys at the time, have five kids. Now. There's a whole story there. And, you know, great relationship, great business. You know, I was cranking. I was a structural correction chiropractor at the time. I mean, huge, busy office, purpose driven. I'm telling you, when I say it, I mean it. Life couldn't be better. You know, it was exactly. You'd envision a great life to be. I was cycling. I was racing bikes at the time. And so I was doing a lot of training. I would say it would be the one addiction that I had, right? It was like, I love to train. And I was racing mountain bikes to the expert level. I was a cat 3. Not that people know what that is. It was at the. In the. It's kind of a moderate level of, you know, cycling, road cycling. But anyway. But I was training on the road for mountain bike racing. That was my expertise. I was putting in probably 300 some miles a week. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. And people put a lot more than that in. I. Because I was so busy, I had to specifically train. And I was very good at the training part. So that said, I thought I was over training, right? Because I was dialed into how my intensities, how to vary that, et cetera. So I cut back. I cut back on the training, but I wasn't getting better. So I literally remember I took two weeks off, and I swear I was more fatigued. And then these weird headaches started. And then just things I've never dealt with before, like weird anxiety that would come and go, you know, just like fatigue to a whole different level for no reason. Even if I did sleep, like a perfect night, wake up just like, man, I'm dragging myself out of bed. Never happened. Then my hair started thinning, so I thought, it's my thyroid. I couldn't adapt to stress anymore. Even, like, my baby screaming, my kids. I would be like, I'd flip out. I mean, and I wasn't that guy. But my wife was like. Like, my gosh, who are you turning into? And I'd sit back and you know, and be like, I don't know, right? I mean, I really was like, gosh, you know, I had this, like, anger. I never had that before. Then it was like insomnia and panic attacks and sound sensitivity, gut problems, went chasing food, things. I mean, so many things that people deal with today that's what I was dealing with. Like many people, I was looking things up. The Internet wasn't like today, but I was chasing things, looking things up. I remember going to bookstores and just, like, reading people's books. I mean, I was like, that kind of crazy, but. And like I said, I did say my adrenals are fried. I would really assist the adrenals. And it helped a little bit. My anxiety would get worse. Then I started addressing my thyroid, and I felt like that some things would get better, some things would get worse, but I wasn't better. And I was at one point online, and I found Mad Hatter's disease. Yeah. Do you know what that is? Yeah, I've heard of it. People making felt hats got mercury poisoned. Even lead was involved. So they got very sick, and they were known as Mad Hatters. I mean, literally, I had every symptom. I was mad as a hatter, as the. As the saying goes. But I went and got a blood test, and matter of fact, that day, I went to Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I. I met with the head of toxicology. He ran mercury, a bunch of other tests. I ran every test we could think about. I remember it was around $5,000. The reason I remember is because my insurance didn't pay for it. I had to pay for it. I should have negotiated it. I probably didn't. I didn't have the money at the time. Anyway, bottom line was it all came back relatively normal. To the point he said to me, son, you're healthier than me. And that was not a good day. If he said, we figured it out you have a form of cancer, I'd be like, okay, I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. At least I know what I'm up against. Right? But that's not what he said. So. And I went to many other doctors, and it started to just get to the point where they would send me out of the door with a psychotropic drug. Like, meaning you're crazy. You know, try this. That'll help your anxiety and the crazies you're getting. You know, here you go. You know, and there was times where, you know, the. The drug might have helped because I was out of my mind. Was I. I was crazy. I always say I was crazy, but there was a reason, right? But so fast forward, I was working with a very bright endocrinologist trying to balance the hormonal I had. And so he said to me, you know, I think you have mercury toxicity. He based that. Based on my Weird ups and down, body temperature swings. And. And I said, I thought so too. But I did the blood test, and it came out normally. So that's the wrong test. That would be if you were a mad hatter, meaning if you were getting exposed every day, it would show up in your blood, but you're not. It's probably chronic if it's that, you know. So he said, do this challenge test and see if it's in your tissues. And that's an indicator, but even if it's not, it could just be in the brain, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I said, where do you think I got it from? So I did the test, and not only that, I had all kinds of high heavy metals, so my pathways of getting rid of it were shut down for sure.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I said, where do you think I got it from? He said, did you have any dental work done around the time this all happened? So I'm like, I know the date this happened because I had my cycling journey journal. And I opened that up, my training journal, got the date. I called my best friend who had, I knew, put a gold crown in, took a silver filling out. Those fillings contain 50% mercury. If people didn't know that, 50% mercury. And I said, hey, Derek, when. What's the date? Like, when did I get that filling done? Right? And I knew it was around that time because when my symptoms start. But he gave me the date, and it was just days after that is when I started recording. I didn't feel good today, right? So I didn't ride. I didn't like. And then it was like the next week. And it was, you know, man, I had the worst day. You know, I literally tracked myself when it all happened. It was after I got two silver fillings removed. Look. That was the straw that broke the camel's back, meaning that just vaporized a lot more mercury that I already had stored up. I wore contact lenses in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The saline solution that we used had thimerosal in it, which is a mercury derivative. We were putting it right in our brains. Yeah, they outlawed it in the early 90s. But people that wore contact lenses had no idea that they were putting mercury directly into their brain via their optic nerve. And so that was another huge source. There was a time where I was really into lifting weights and I was a ton of tuna. I lived at the beach at the time. So I had all kinds of mercury sources throughout my life. And I had fillings in, which is that those fillings vapor they're 50% mercury. They vaporize mercury right into the brain. So, ladies, the, this is the drash study. It was one of the first studies. It was a German study. The number of silver fillings in mom's mouth is proportional to how much mercury they find in the baby's brain on autopsy. So where did I get my first load? My mother had a bunch of fillings. So that's where the buckets started filling. Of course the, you know, the contact lenses, of course, you know, the fillings in my own mouth, the tuna. And then one day when they drilled the fillings out and vaporized more mercury, the bucket overflowed. I was also at that time training a lot, which is a stress that your body has to adapt to. And I lived in a low grade, moldy home as well. No one else was sick. But it became something that once I was challenged. It wasn't until I got out of that home that I was like, oh, that was stressing me too. One of the things I teach, and I've trained doctors about these topics for over 20 years is that you have to figure out people's perfect storm, meaning it's not one thing that typically makes them sick. It's a combination of typically three stressors, like me, that boom. And all of a sudden the bottom falls out. That's what happened to me.

[A]

So it just compounds and builds and builds over time, and then before you know it, it just boom.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And so people think, you know, they want the one answer. They want the one pill, one powder, potion, lotion, whatever it is, the one magic, the one biohack, the one. It's not how it works. They want the 10 day cleanse. They want the. Yeah, it's not how it works. You know, and training doctors for so many years, that's always been my message. Number one, people don't get better just by giving them supplements. Today, people don't get better just by changing their diet. It's a, it's a, an accumulation, a stockpiling, a bioaccumulation of toxins over someone's life. And then that bucket overflows. So you have to look at someone's life and evaluate these exposures and stressors, deal with that cause directly, appropriately. That's how you get people well today. So that's been my message. And I'm not changing it. No.

[A]

So what did, what did you have to go through then to fix this issue, to counteract the mercury problem?

[B]

Good question. So I still had fillings in my mouth. Yeah. Matter of fact, he had put gold in.

[A]

Is that worse?

[B]

Well, it was worse because I still had probably four silver fillings in. And it creates galvanism. Galvanism is an electrical current. It's a battery effect. You know what a battery is? It's two opposing metals in an acid. That's exactly what happens in your mouth. So when people have a crown, a implant, a braces, I. I mean, there's a lot of reasons. Somebody could have bridge. Could have metal in their mouth, and then they have silver fillings. Studies show the mercury in those silver fillings pours out of those fillings. When you have that galvanic situation, that current makes that mercury vaporize. Even that 10 times the amount starts going into the brain the moment you have two opposing metals in your acid mouth. And that's what happened to me. Put that gold in there, and I still had fillings in. I remember the day that I got the gold out. And because I had read Hal Huggins, he was probably the most famous dentist that, you know. Really, I lost his license. You know, speaking about silver fillings containing mercury, et cetera, and how to remove them. But he talked about how the gold even takes on some of the mercury vapor itself. Get the gold out. Anyways, I got the gold out, and it was like I could sleep through the nights. Like, most times I would say, yeah, once the mercury started coming out of my brain, then I regained all my nights. Then the anxiety went away. But there was a level of that weird anxiety that went down just by getting that galvanic reaction out of my mouth. The. The brain hates that electrical current. It's measurable. One of the things that Al Huggins did was measure the current in people. And, you know, he would always say, take the highest negative silver filling out first as an order, and never cross the midline. Anyway, a lot of that stuff I'm working now in my program with doctors, dentists around the country who not only know how to remove these things correctly. And then we start. You have to understand you can't just get the fillings out. That vapor turns to inorganic mercury and is locked in your brain for the life. The half life's longer than you live, so you have to get it out of the brain. And that's a big part of what I've been teaching for many years. The safe way to get these things out of your brain. It's not just mercury. The amount of aluminum that we're getting. Yeah. From cooking in aluminum foil. Antiperspirants. Jet fuel contains aluminum because it. It literally They've formulated a jet fuel that makes jets more efficient. They can fly longer and save billions of dollars. So. But jet fuel has aluminum in it and. Yeah, and it's, you know, literally getting into our water supply, our food supply. Point is, is that we have a lot of exposures to many different types of toxins that accumulate in the brain. Typically when people don't feel well and can't figure it out, have hormone challenges and can't figure it out. And by the way, the control tower sits in there in the center of your brain, it's the hypothalamus pituitary. That's what runs your thyroid. You know, the hypothalamus takes in all the information from all your hormonal needs and needs in the body. Takes it in. You know, that's like the antenna that takes in, says, okay, what do we need? And then it tells the pituitary, okay, we need more thyroid hormone down there, we need more this, we need more that. Right. And the pituitary then sends things to the adrenals, sends information to your thyroid, produce more thyroid hormone. Okay. So many people like I was are downstream trying to figure out the adrenals and the thyroid when the control towers the big issue. So I had so much mercury in my pituitary. I remember I still have the study then when I found the study that showed that mercury from amalgam fillings, 90% of it, ends up in the pituitary hypothalamus, I'm like, dang it, I'm like, I knew something was wrong with the control. I mean, I knew because I'm down here, I'm like, what if something's wrong with my pituitary? I mean, I had a medical background. It's like I knew, you know, something was going on there. But it was weird. When I would try to address it, I would get like, more anxiety. Right. It was because all I was doing is stirring the bucket around. So you have to be careful about what type of detoxes you do. Yeah. But anyway, so when I got the mercury out of my brain, it didn't happen from a 30 day cleanse. Not so easy from sitting in silence. But, you know, then I, I got my life back. I could sleep through the night. The anxiety went away. That anger, irritability, all that stuff went away. But, you know, it, it takes time. It took time to get in, it takes time to get out. My program, I, I say the goal is to teach people the process so they can actually do the detox long enough to matter. Right. And that's the key.

[A]

My wife's probably back there saying, man, I bet he's got some. Some things going on because he's always so pissy during the day about me. So she's probably. But, you know, my aluminum, I had it checked at one of the biohacking conventions I was at. I had a quick scan thing done in. My aluminum was off the chart, and I started to kind of panic, like, you know, and I haven't gone back to get it looked at, but my mercury was also high. And I'm wondering. I've had like 20 root canals.

[B]

So let's talk about that. You know, one of the things that I teach, you know, I. I have a lot of criticism, and I take some crap for it about functional medicine these days because a lot of it is running expensive tests.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And giving people a lot of vitamins. Right. And I have no problem with testing. I have no problem with vitamins. But none of that is really focused on the real cause of why people are sick. They say that 84 to 85% of all disease starts in the mouth. They mean. Well, I just talked about fillings, but root canals and what we call cavitations, oral infection in general.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which I call hidden infections are a big reason why people can't fix their gut. It's a big reason why people have immune challenges and even autoimmune and even develop cancer. So these hidden infections are. They get in there, into these areas of your mouth, and hide from your immune system because there's so little blood flow. So root canals. Years ago, a guy named Boyd Haley out of the University of Kentucky, he did a study where he had all the dentists in the. There's a organization of healthy dentists called the A A I A O N t dot org. Anyways, it's a place to find healthy dentists. But anyway, they were sending him healthy root canals, meaning if someone had pain symptoms, don't send it. We only want root canals that no one had any problem with. And you took out. Yeah. So they were sending them healthy root canals. A hundred percent of them had dangerous anaerobic pathogens, bacteria in and around them. The reason why, when they take out the root, what's left behind is something called microtubules. Literally miles of these things where the bacteria run and they hide in there. And then you put. Basically, you know, they. They put a sealant in the. In the tooth where the root. Root was taken out, seal it. But those bacteria now are sealed in and they create a Lot of problems. Matter of fact, there was other studies showing on the side of root canals, thyroid cancer, breast cancer, ovarian cancer, different types of cancers on the side of the root canal. So root canals cavitations, meaning where people had wisdom teeth removed. Okay, 80 some percent heal over, you have no pain. 20 some years later, you have immune challenges, you have different weird symptoms. And it could be the cavitation. Wow. When those things are decavitated, as it's called surgically fixed, people immediately say they feel like that they reconnected with their body. I had a guy and became a friend. Guy was from Canada and he had 21 years of severe pain, part of which we had major liver pain. He had the means to do everything, and he did. He was that kind of guy. He would do it. You tell him to stand on your head in the corner for 10 minutes, he'll say, Is 20 better? He was that guy. And nothing worked. So finally we do something called a cone beam.

[A]

Yes, the cone beam.

[B]

Cone beam. And he sees these lucencies in the jaw. You don't see infection. And by the way, you don't see these things on X ray. This is more like a cat scan. Yeah, 3D. They're able to look around and find these voids. And these voids are where the infections hide. So he had two of these big voids. And he went to Dr. Jerry Curitola in New York, great dentist. And he texted me on the way out and he said, maybe it's coincidence, but I. I feel pain free. That liver pain is gone. You think it's gonna last? And I said, I don't know, we'll find out. That was probably 10 years ago now, maybe more. And you know, he hasn't had that since he walked out of there pain free. And I can't tell you how often that has. Some people say literally in the chair, when they took the infection out, it felt like they were reconnected to their body. So anyways, I say all that to say that it is some of these things that functional medicine, doctors, if they truly want to help someone, you have to look in these areas where most people don't look. You have to ask people about their home. People are living in moldy homes unknowing, they're getting exposed. They don't smell it, they don't see it because they live there. Yeah. Or they have someone come in and do a mold test and they just test the air.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

90% of those are false negatives. And yet they're being affected by the mold in a home. So you have to dig in these areas with people's history, looking at certain symptoms that could be, you know, neurotoxic illness. But when you look at the explosion of thyroid conditions, toxins are at the forefront. Diabetes, 80 I. You know, I think the last one I read is like 83% of diabetes is toxin related, which is toxin induced insulin resistance. So it's called tur t I I r Toxin induced insulin resistance. And people say, I change my diet, I can't come off my medication, my blood sugar starting. That's mostly toxins. And the reason why toxins drive inflammation of the cell. Your hormone receptors are on that cell and inflammation blocks them. And you can make hormone levels better in your blood by taking hormones. But if they can't connect to that receptor, just as useless as a cell phone without a tower. Useless. How big of a.

[A]

Okay, so let's just take a percentage here. And I know this is a broad perspective, but if we were just looking at correlation between toxins causing health problems, do you think it's like 70 to 80% of people's problem? Like, what would your number be? For people that have some sort of issue, it's either coming from there, originating from there, has some sort of. Of problem concern there. What do you think?

[B]

I. I think it's 95.

[A]

Really, that battle.

[B]

I do. Look, people talk about processed food.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I, I agree. Processed food is not good. Right. But food in itself is the carrier of the problem.

[A]

I see.

[B]

Water is a carrier of the problem. Makeup, personal care products is now a carrier of the problem. You know, Bobby, our HHS, you know, secretary.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I'll. I say Bobby because I know him personally. I don't know how anyone could hate this man. I think you should love this man on both sides of the aisle. Take all politics out. Yeah. Remember, he started on the left. Yeah. You know, the right has taken him in. Right. But it's like, let me tell you something. This man is the real deal. And he's always fought for everything that I believe every one of us are concerned about. That was the health of our children.

[A]

You would think that was.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know how you can hate this guy.

[A]

I'm confused. But I also don't know politics so well. So I don't know what the problem is. But I think anybody that's trying when the whole perspective is to make America healthy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And make people healthy.

[B]

Yeah. They started hating him. I don't, I. You don't have to get political. But I will in the sense, you know, there's a real thing called Trump. Trump derangements. Yeah. It's a real disease. There's no drug for it. I don't think there's a cure for it. No. I don't know if it's genetic or not real. Okay. But when poor Bobby lined up with Trump. Yeah. Then came hated.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now get it. You know, he should be hated by the big pharma. He should be hated by big ag. He should be hated by big food. And I was a month ago at D.C. and you know, Bobby walks in and he might have had three. Maybe there was one as a door, two other Secret service with him. I'm like, that's not enough. Yeah. I'm in this building and I was looking for the bathroom and there was like a stair, like you could get to this. All I kept thinking was, you know, how protected is he? Like, I felt like someone could have, you know, got him. There's a 50 people in the room. Anyways, I fear for Bobby. I love him. I think he's just has a heart of gold and he's doing. I think he's already done great things for our country. He is not done yet. Just the changing of the vaccine schedule. Yeah. I mean, you know, why do people hate. Why do people want to label everyone? Vaxxer, Anti Vaxxer. He's for making this safer. He's for drug. You know, vaccines are the only drug. You can't sue a drug company.

[A]

Danger and injury.

[B]

I do some mistake.

[A]

I did the interview with Aaron Siri. Three hours.

[B]

Was he amazing? He's winning every case. You know why he's winning every case? Because there's no science around where they say the science is. There's zero.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Zero, dude.

[A]

Okay. He sent me his book. He approached me to do the interview and I said, I want to do it, but let me think about it. I got on a plane. On the flight, I read half the book and I called my wife when I landed. I said, I don't give a shit. I am doing this interview. I said, this is some of the most troubling stuff that I had ever seen or heard in my life. We sat down three hours and did a full flown interview. And then me and her stayed there

[B]

till, I don't know.

[A]

It was like midnight. I was with him like seven hours.

[B]

I've been connected to this problem.

[A]

Oh, it's insane.

[B]

So this was nothing new that I didn't know, like, you know, but that was Shocking, wasn't it? Blew me away. And that's why I say, whether you're vaccine or anti vaxxer. You read Aaron's book. It's called Vaccines. Amen. Yeah. Find it on Amazon. I don't care which one you are. If you care about children or you care about your own children for that matter, read that book. He is. Look, he deposed the vaccinologist of all vaccinologists, okay? So this guy, I mean, he is the man. I mean, he wrote the holy bible, you know, of vaccines that every. Listen, medical doctors, they don't know anything about vaccines. And I say that in defending them, okay? Because they don't have time, right? The immunologist, they don't know anyone. So the only ones he found that really know anything or think they know anything are the vaccinologists. And the man is Stanley Plot. Okay? He deposed him. He went in there thinking, man, I'm going to be right. He must have something, right? And so. And he prepares all of this and he's like, they've got nothing. He's like, so Stanley must have something, right? Nothing. Nine hour. You can watch it on high wire. Yeah. Nine hour deposition. And in his book, he breaks it down. But nothing. Not only nothing, it's like it's. It's so damaging to the whole thing. It's. It will shock you, it will anger you. Oh, and you'll feel duped.

[A]

Trust me, I was seeing fire red when I. It was. I always tell people, look, if you want to take these, go load yourself up with them. I'll tell you, but the kids that have no choice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In this matter. And when I saw the list of everything and then it was like five days.

[B]

Five days. Hepatitis B was one of the examples. Five, five days of a clinical trial. Oh, it's not a double blind placebo trial. See, every drug requires double blind placebo trials to prove sex.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Except vaccination. They do a five day. In that case, and rarely does it more than that of just looking at what happens in five days to a kid. Okay. There's no placebo group. Okay. There's been a couple vaccines, two, maybe three, where they actually had a placebo group. You know what they used instead of saline? They used the old vaccine or straight aluminum. Yeah. One of the very things, when we talk about aluminum in the brain, one of the very things that drives most of the symptoms. So literally, they were comparing the vaccine group with the placebo group. I know. Aluminum shots. It's like, are you kidding? Because all you have to say then to prove safety, to get the licensure, because that's all they're doing. They're doing that five days so they can get licensure from the FDA and clearance. And all they have to do is prove that between the two groups that the symptoms were relatively the same. Well, of course they were. But if they gave it to saline, they know this. There's no way the sickness would not outweigh the risk or the risk would not outweigh the reward. But, I mean, it's sick. Read the book. But anyway, I don't even know where I was going with that. But Bobby is making things safer. How do I even get on Bobby in the first place?

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

That's why I love our conversations. It's because they go all over the place. Someone out there, how do.

[A]

We were talking about food and the processed food and what it carries.

[B]

There you go. Good. Very good. So the fact is, is that Bobby said. I can't believe I just took all that to say this one thing. Say this one thing. Bobby just said last week. He said, this is one example. He said, the problem isn't gluten. It's a chemical called glyphosate. Yeah. Meaning all these. When we were kids. I'm 60 years old. I'm telling. There was nobody with a gluten.

[A]

I was gonna say, this is just coming around.

[B]

Course. And we still had gluten. Okay. It's like, you know, I grew up in an Italian family post, and none of us were reacting. Now today, everyone's reacting. It's the leaky gut caused by. And glyphosate causes your gut to be wide open. Okay. Yeah. And your brain, it opens up these two protective barriers, so it's adding to brain toxicity, which is adding to all the anxiety, brain fog, and all the stuff we're seeing. And it's opening up our gut. That's one chemical. Now we look at the amount of mercury, lead, aluminum, I can keep up, plastic, all these other pesticides, atrazine, which is a chemical that makes male frogs female. Okay. It's like, we wonder why kids today are confused. It's like the guy, Tyrone Hayes, the scientist that the company who makes the pesticide hired, said, you got a problem here. They fired him and then just slathered his name in the industry because he showed that their. Their stupid chemical actually was making male frogs female. I mean, you want your kid. It's still being used. Our food is being sprayed. See, it's not the food. Atrazine. It's still being sprayed by glyphosate. It's still being, you know, poisoned with all kinds of different chemicals. I'm just naming two. It's like. So the fact is, is this is the first generation not to outlive their parents. Chronic disease. Bobby made this point, too. He says, if you look at what's happened in the last 60 years, why we see chronic disease surging, everything from thyroid autoimmune cancer in kids, all these Autism rates from 1 in 30,000 to 1 in 21 in 10,000 today. 1 in 31. 1 in 31 kids being born is autism. In some states, like California, you're talking about 1 in 12. Okay, so if that doesn't concern people, what's changed is the level of toxins, not the level of processed food, not the level of carbohydrates, not the level. You know, I mean, yes, we need to eat less carbohydrates or perhaps. And less processed food, for sure. Okay, but. And bad fats. I mean, I make a stance on all of those problems. The toxins are the number one problem. Chronic diseases. That's the question you asked me 20 minutes ago. That is the number one reason why chronic disease is surging. The thyroid is the first to go. If you look at thyroid cases, what happened in the last 20 years, it's the thyroid's canary in the coal mine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What does that mean? That means it's the most sensitive gland that we have organized that takes in toxins and disrupts. So I always say if you have a thyroid condition, you have a toxic condition.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and I would say the same about diabetes. Well, this shit just started happening how long ago?

[A]

I mean, these diseases, these problems, this stuff just started coming around. People act like this was something 100 years ago, 50 years ago, had got problems.

[B]

My kids will tell that every one of my friends has gut problems. Yeah, every one of my friends is like, you know, has some type of medical issue. There was nobody in my class that I remember having a medical. I mean, I'm not one. And we were drinking pops out of

[A]

the pot machine every day and everything else and didn't have one problem.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's. That's. I'm saying. So the game has changed.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

You know, I mean, good point, right? I mean, people were drinking Pepsi and Coke, right? Where it's like. And not that it's good. No, the point is the level of toxins is what has changed. If you look at a food, people do this on the Internet. And I You know, I've probably done it on my Instagram. But if you look at ingredients, even in fast food.

[A]

Just did the McDonald's fries.

[B]

I just saw the list of ingredients is this long.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Back when I was a kid, it was this long.

[A]

If that.

[B]

You could do that with every product.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you know what the difference of those ingredients is? Chemicals. Yeah, that's what the difference is.

[A]

Chemicals.

[B]

So I always say, if you can't read it, don't eat it. So, you know, we think of processed food, but no, it's. It should be called chemical food food. Yeah, it's. It's processed chemical food is the answer.

[A]

Well, it tasted better back then than it does now, too.

[B]

You go to Italy. Many people watching this have been to Italy. What don't you see in Italy? You don't see fat people in Italy. Obviously you do. When they're Americans. You could spot the Americans. I'm not kidding. You could spot the Americans from. And you said, I have. Right. It's like in France is the same way. And they eat a ton of fat and they eat a ton of carbohydrates, and everywhere.

[A]

They even smoke.

[B]

They even smoke. In Italy, they eat 20% more carbohydrates than we do. Why is their diabetes rate half okay? It's because the chemicals aren't there. They've outlawed glyphosate. The one that I said opens up the gut barriers. They're not spraying their food with atrazine. They're not, you know, the amount of chemicals. Their personal care products lists are like, you know, basic ingredients. Right. That's the difference.

[A]

The problem, too, is that people's minds are so closed and shut because they're brainwashed or they just. They say, the people, the big people, make us sound crazy. This shit is true. And it's like, that's why I do what I do. Because most people that know I'm. I'm not a doctor. I'm just the realest dude around. Like, with everything I've gone through and everything I've done, I'm like, listen, I don't. I don't have a side. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm not selling anything. All I'm doing is selling you a reality on what's really going on.

[B]

Stance of vaccines. You did. You interviewed Aaron. You read his book. Book. And then you said. Holy. That's what you said.

[A]

Everything he has, he says it. It's all cited. You can literally go look it up and find it. It's sitting right out in front of our faces.

[B]

Dude, I. You have to interview. You have to. Del. Big tree.

[A]

Yes, I want to.

[B]

He does high wire.

[A]

Yes, I know who Dell is.

[B]

Yeah. So Dell, his movie, his documentary. People can get. I think they can get it for free still. It's called an in an inconvenience study. So an inconveniencestudy.com.org I think it's.org but find it. It's free. Watch it. So what Dell did is years ago, he challenged the top researcher of Henry Ford Health Institute. Okay. The reason why that's significant is because there were other studies comparing the vaccinated to the unvaccinated as a very clear study of saying, great, which one's healthier? Right. Because if vaccines work, we would see better immunity. Health statistics. Vaccinated. Absolutely. And so the studies that were done there may have been six or seven. It all favored the unvaccinated. But the criticism was that wasn't done by a legit. That study had this problem, but that was at a. So he challenged the man himself at the. He was the head of Henry Ford Health Institute and known for their research. Right. This is what they do. Big pro vaccination. Even the gentleman who did the study, he said, you know, I'm extremely pro vaccinated. That's why we have the. Okay. He said, yes. So then why don't you do this study? Because you have one of the largest groups to study a vaccinated unvaccinated because of the way the insurance worked. And he said, because this would put it to rest, wouldn't you agree? So I think two years went by and he said, man, you know, you said you were going to do the study. Well, okay. You know, he got him to do the study. Okay. And so then another year or so goes by and he's like, you know, are you doing it? Yeah, we did it. Well, what are the results? Right. Anyways, the results were same as the other one. The unvaccinated had six fold less autoimmune, two and a half fold less autism. I mean, every chronic disease was elevated by big numbers in the vaccinated group. He said, why won't you publish it? He said, my career would be over. Well, would you meet with me? So he agreed to meet with him, Dell, because he had to do this. And he talked about it in my interview. He came in with a camera and a hidden microphone because he had to. I love it. And so here he is. And then the movie. You see this, this conversation go Down. And by the way, it was, he is the only way he had to do it because no one would believe it. Yeah. So the guy said just that I won't, I can't publish it. My career will be over. But his justification was partly right. They wouldn't change anything anyway, so why should I lose my career? But Dell asked him the smartest thing. He said, could anything have been done better, different about the study? He said, no, we flipped it every way. It was smart because the outcomes of criticism. Well, it wasn't this. They didn't look at this. He said, no, this is the best. He said, we flipped it every way you could. The outcome was the same no matter what, the study's perfect. So he said, wow. He said, amazing. So the fact was is that there's yet another study showing that the vaccinated group had all chronic disease conditions elevated compared to the unvaccinated group. The unvaccinated group in most of those had zero incidents. So that's, that's a scary, it's scary reaction.

[A]

Hyper troubling. And like Aaron was telling me, they're just products. That's all that these are products.

[B]

Yeah. He says, and you know, there's no conspiracy here because I criticize people on our side of thinking that they're developing these because then they end up in the healthcare system selling them more drugs. It's not like that. They're sitting in a boardroom with, you know, people, you know, with, on a board that they want to make money.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

And they're saying, wait a minute. It's like if we do a double blind study, you know, what's it going to show? Because they, they don't know. These board people, they're sitting there making business decisions and all they're know is like, well, wait a minute, you know, there's a chance it's going to show that it doesn't cause safety. Well, why, we don't have to do this, so why would we do that? Of course we won't do that. That'll hurt profits. That, that could ruin everything that we're doing. I mean every decision is a boardroom money decision, you know, and I argue that many of them still like even believe in the products. But many would argue that those top people aren't vaccinating their kids. Yeah. So.

[A]

Oh yeah, I believe it. And then, you know, it's, well, so, and so's brilliant. And they're saying this, well, do you think they can't be bought? Are they not human? Do they not revolve around money as well. Not everybody's so ethical in everything that they do. This is reality of life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, but it comes across. It's easy to. To think that, oh, well, so. And so this big doctor and so we got to believe everything they say, but that is just not reality.

[B]

Well, that's like Plotkin. I mean, look, the. The vaccine. I. I can't remember. It's like the court. The trial, you know, the bo. Whatever that is called. The gavel is named after him. It's called the. It's called the Plotkin gavel. I mean, this guy is like the God. You know, it's like whatever he says goes. It just done. It just goes. That's it. You know, it's like. So when he depot that deposition.

[A]

That thing is great to watch.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it's good. It's. It's. It is good. But that deposition he did, it really showed how the whole system is built. How they go by this man's word. And his word is backed by nothing but his own opinion. He even quotes himself. Yeah. Without. Literally. Without a. An actual study. It's.

[A]

It is so crazy. And I don't understand why it's like a cult like, following. Because I asked. I. I'll say this to my wife. Are they married to the vaccine? Because people get so angry to these. What are you so mad about?

[B]

Billions. Yeah. You have to understand regular people, normal people. Yeah, that's what. That's just puzzling. That's what I'm talking about. See what happened in Covid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, now we know. I mean, where are the apologies? You know, because everyone knows that vaccine was a fail. It didn't protect. This is not my opinion or anyone's opinion. It didn't protect. No. You know, not only that, it harmed. It's driving autoimmune. It's driving turbo cancers. It's. You know, the amount of cardiovascular.

[A]

That's disease, stroke.

[B]

I mean, you can keep going down the list. Tinnitus. I mean, all these crazy things that have come out of that. And it was an absolute mistake. Where are these people now? They were screaming at someone like you. Me. That was like, you're putting people at risk saying that and this and that. You know, I mean, like, you're dangering because they convince people that if you weren't vaccinated, you were putting everyone else at risk. Okay. Even the vaccine. Matter of fact, Aaron and I discussed that. Even the existing vaccines. That's not true. Your kids are not putting other kids at risk by being unvaccinated. Yet it's the straw demand that they still hold up in, you know, is why they say your kids should be vaccinated because they're a threat to my kids. Covid was the same thing. You're not vaccinated. You're putting all us at risk. And the only way to actually, you know, slow a virus down is herd immunity, meaning you have to get the virus. My goal from day one was, come on kids, let's get this virus, get it over with and let's travel because this is gonna be the best time to do it. We did just that. Did you really? We did just that. You know, and now look, you know, we're healthy. You know, that was a very, very bizarre. It was a man made disease virus. So our immune systems absolutely did not, you know, like it. Right. So you know, for some people it was absolutely devastating for. Right. So I wouldn't recommend that for some. But for us that are healthy, we got it. It was like a regular flu for us. My wife didn't even get symptoms and she had it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But the point is, is herd immunity. Had to stop that. Yeah. Wasn't the vaccine, it was herd immunity. We know that. Unfortunately.

[A]

I've had it like eight times.

[B]

Every strain. Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I seriously, I've been very susceptible to it.

[B]

But I had, I had three.

[A]

But.

[B]

But you know, each time got that came down to a cold in the end. But it's good though. Yeah. Because you're building up. These are all. This virus is going nowhere. I mean it will be here, you know. Yeah. And you know, so it's good you have these antibodies and our. The next generation will be fully equipped.

[A]

Yes. And I mean there are things you can do to mitigate it. I mean, I know Ivermectin. I just didn't the last time. And it helped a ton. Yeah, it really did. I never took it but the one time because I just didn't have it around me or anything. And I got some and took it. And like two days later I felt really.

[B]

Yeah, no, it helped and anything because like I said, it was a weird virus. We have watched again, thyroid canary in the coal mine cases go up like crazy. It put a lot of people. We call cellular danger response. So post Covid, as it's known, long haulers, as it's known.

[A]

Right.

[B]

A lot of different names for it, but AKA I just haven't felt the same since COVID Okay. You know that many people vaccinated or unvaccinated this can happen too are in what they call spiked protein persistence where their body is still producing spike proteins. I was blessed to be in a group out of Europe where they have an actual test to measure spike protein that's approved in Europe, but not here yet. And you could see the different. They can see the difference. Two different spike proteins in the vaccinated group, one spike protein and unvaccinated. However, even in the unvaccinated you would see some of them have spike protein persistence where their body's still producing. Wow. There's also something called a cellular danger respons response that creates something called dysautonomia, which simply means you feel like crap and you still feel like crap. Your adrenals are fried, your thyroid's affected and a lot of people post covet ended up with that. So we have solutions. My program now literally had to adopt these post Covid solutions because so many people are not well because of it. We had to adopt these solutions.

[A]

Wow, that's crazy. You know, my argument at the time was because I wasn't as like very well versed on vaccines like now. And I had been in the supplement industry for so long and I had had so many struggles with either helping people get something approved or people's kickback on me was, well, you don't have 30 years of data on this, so I'm not taking it or I don't trust it. How can you prove it? They were wanting 15 and 30 years of data to take a supplement, just a basic supplement and you know, to get an FDA approval because they're not getting anything out of it is just rigorous and damn near impossible. That's why a lot of supplements are fda.

[B]

Right. And this thing was approved like, like that overnight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And listen, I, you know, I've interviewed Peter McCullough.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He knew right away, like, okay, this is not going to go well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, they slathered him, attacked him. Right. Social media.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Robert Malone, Robert Malone, he was, he knew, he was part of this technology and he's saying, ho, ho, ho, Wait, hold on. You know, this isn't. As soon as he did knock them down to the side because the drug companies, they saw the cash cow. This is a trillion dollar industry again, imagine, imagine having a drug that you don't have to prove safety for, like with double blind placebo trials like every other drug and you don't get sued. Okay. That's just a dream.

[A]

It's, it's.

[B]

And that's the way it's been since 1986.

[A]

I know, I know. And when I learned that, that's as soon as I got to that chapter of the book, I set it down and I sent the text message and I said, I'm doing this interview. And I said, you're not going to believe when I get home when I tell you all about this. It's insane.

[B]

You know, when people, of course, you know, Bobby's talking about changing the vaccine schedule to that of like some of the other European countries, you know, the Danish country, you know, they have some of the best health statistics in children. Oh, well, what's different? Their vaccine schedule. Yeah, they, they literally, I think we have 17 vaccines in year one. And I think they have nine or something. I mean, you know, literally half the, half the amount of vaccines in year one. It may be less than that. I, I don't remember the exact numbers. Aaron has it in his book. But fact is, is look at the difference in health. Yeah. So by taking. Why are we giving hepatitis B vaccines to a woman who does. Has no, you know, history senseless of hepatitis B? That's the stupidest thing. And we're giving it, you know, literally day one when the immune system is not even developed yet.

[A]

But how many people just do it

[B]

without asking or wondering what concerns me? You know, I always tell people, don't, don't listen to me, please. Yeah, do your own homework. Read Aaron's book. Listen when you're deal. An attorney. This is different because an attorney goes to trial, they have to, they win on fact.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

You know, it's like they have to back everything they say. So you're getting something that literally has won every trial. This information is real. It's beating everyone. They have nothing when I tell you they have nothing. This is not science. People call anti vaxxers unscientific. It's the opposite. Yeah. Aaron got into this thinking that there was something here. Right. He got into it thinking like, you know, he was like you. He knew nothing. Yeah. He was no different than you. And when he started getting into this sniffing, he's like, I smell a rat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, it's like, send me everything you have on it. And they sent him some crap. He's like, is this what you wanted me to look at? Like, this is your science. And he realized they have nothing.

[A]

The information, when it's put out, you can see and you can tell. And, and that's why I like you so much because I know when you go. And you got balls of steel, by the way, because like, when you walked in there, I was, I, I couldn't take the one you did on the chicken at the, at the store when you were calling out the plastic and the chicken right in front of the workers. I was, I had to watch that literally four or five times. But my point is there at me, well, but you do that because you care and because you, you don't. You would, you're not making money off of that. You're not saying selling anything.

[B]

When you heat plastic, it's going right into the food.

[A]

You killed me with that. I said, the ball's on him. I love it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's like, to me, it's like, gosh, like, it's just stupid. And I'm watching, I do the video and I'm what, Like this guy's listening to me and he comes right, and he just grabs you pl the chicken in the plastic on the thing and just like walks away. I'm like, well, that's, you know, you're my impact zero. Yeah. It's like, I mean, I, I, like if, I'm telling you, if I watch someone do that video, I'll be like, that makes sense. Yeah. Buying that. Oh my gosh. Picked it right up. Once I got filmed that.

[A]

Oh, once I got done laughing, I was like, man, this, but this, the point here is so good. And that's. I wanted to talk to you about that aspect of what you do because those are super entertaining, but they're super helpful because you, you don't say everything everybody wants to hear. I can tell you, like when you talked about tattoos and I was like, shit, you know, but, but it's so eye opening and it's so helpful for you to go and do that and take the time to walk around and go to these places and call these things out and point things out. And I know some people, don't they, they call it fear mongering order because you're saying stuff that they don't want to hear. Because it's true.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's, it, we need to know it.

[B]

Well, you know, I, I, I, I obviously apply what I, my team will bring me things and I'll go, yeah, but see, I don't do that yet. I swear to God. There was one just recently. I'm like, yeah, I don't do that yet, so I can't do it. Yeah, but meaning, like, I have to be bought in. Yeah, like, you know, if I'm bought in, if I think it's a major, I bring it. You know, it's like some things maybe aren't majors, but I still do. Right. But you know, because I bought in. Right. But most of what I teach is like I, you know, I don't wear polyester underwear. I see more, you know what I'm saying? I, I wear pure cotton. Right. So I bought in, you know, that the genitals are not good to be exposed to that. Well, what is that?

[A]

To talk about that real quick, you know. Polyester.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I, I buy them dads. They're called.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Underwear. I choose. I just did that.

[A]

But why?

[B]

Because, yeah, it's, it has effect on the testicles and testosterone. Really? Yeah, because you're, you have petrochemicals and a lot of other chemicals that are carried in by those fabrics and when you sweat in those areas. So I don't mind a shirt or a pair of pants necessarily. Like, I think there is a difference of these tissues. Yeah. And I speak this for men and women versus other tissues just based on the studies that I've read. So it's the areas the tissues more sensitive and absorbs differently and also the amount of heat and friction that's involved in those areas. So there's things like I, I travel with my own toilet paper paper. Because toilet paper, they, they that nice white, they get the, the way they bleach it, it creates dioxins. And it just so happens those tissues, vaginal tissue, anal tissue, not like tissue paper tissues, meaning the cells. Yeah, they're, they're very absorbent of those chemicals and leads to higher levels of prostate cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer. So those tissues are very sensitive. So I think everybody should invest in clean regular toilet paper. Also the formaldehyde levels, the reason they use formaldehyde, because it makes it stronger. Right. And so formaldehyde is used again. Another big cancer causer. So yeah, I, I think females should be very cautious about what female products that they use. What's the word for those products? Cleanly products. I'm missing female. Anyway, hygiene that they should use and not use. I think you should invest in organic. I think women should use pads that are organic pads. So anyways, I think, you know, I try to focus on the bigger issues when I bring it. And again, I have to buy in that said, you know, when I first started that back up, I didn't want to start at all. My son said, dad, you need to do this. He did something. I said that's the stupidest thing and here's why it's stupid. I said, because you can't teach anyone anything in a minute. Minute and a half. Ah. Okay. How long was I. Yeah, so. But that was my stance. And I said I'm not wasting my time because I hate social media. Right. So. So because of my distaste for social media, I didn't want to do it. He did something very clever. He hired my younger son, Simon to get paid on the videos. So of course my love and concern for my younger son, I was like, okay, all right. He has a job. My son hired him into our business. So I started doing it to help him, even though I knew this was a waste of everybody's time. I'm going to do this for Simon. That's where my social media started two and a half years ago. Wow. And grew to like almost 2 million now just on Instagram. But, you know, my other platforms are growing. But. And let me tell you, I fell in love with it when people started coming up to me saying, let me tell you your one video. And let me tell you how that. And they have a story. My wife will tell you. It happens all.

[A]

I'll never forget the chicken video. I will never say, yeah, but let me tell you something. I was the same way. All I ever wanted to do was the 8 to 12 minute videos that most people don't even listen to a fraction of. And I kept doing it and I kept doing it and I didn't listen. I didn't listen. And then you start posting those shorts and they got 20, 30, 40,000 views when your other ones are getting a couple thousand because people don't listen. Yeah, but you could be super impactful in a short amount of time. If you know how to do it, it's it.

[B]

You have to know how to do it. You have to grab their attention and then you have to bring them the information. And when there's a solution. A solution.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I get. I piss people off because I don't often have a solution or I don't. There's this fine line of selling product, right? Yeah. So if you make a mention of a product, you have to say there's all these weird rules. Right. So I, I thank God I don't have to do social media to make $1. So I don't attempt to make. I don't do it for the money because I have other things that generate money. Sure. So. And I think just getting the word out there has helped other things. But I don't. If I have a deal like my mattress. I haven't even done a video on this yet. But it's the best damn mattress in the world. Took me nine months to, you know, research it. All right. It's like. But I have to say, he gave me a discount on the mattress. And this is the mattress I like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So, you know, some. Most often you'll hear me say the product. Find it on, you know, Google it or, you know, yeah, find it on Amazon or something.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's most often what I do. But when it's a hard product that someone can't find, I. I'll promote the product.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Right. And I'll, I'll say the name and I, I have no problem doing that. People want me to do that, but I'm, I'm never, I'm not doing it to sell a product.

[A]

Yeah, somebody's got to promote the. Yeah, I mean, somebody's doing it. I promote. I, I'm very careful about who I work with. I work with very few companies, although I use, you know, just like you and anybody else, we probably use a ton of things, but, you know, I try to go for the most impact. What I think is going to be the most beneficial long term. And I think if we can get people to think long term. I was just having this discussion on the way here. Everybody wants right now, right now, right now. And they never think this about anything. This was the battle I had with the bodybuilders forever, which I couldn't take, which drove me into the mental institute because nobody thinks about tomorrow.

[B]

Bodybuilders, no offense, guys, but they're, you know, there's. There's a lot.

[A]

Dead egg and that's it. And nothing else matters. And I couldn't. It drove me insane because I, I just. And maybe it's because the value I have on time from losing it, but I think about everything long term. And I think that if we can teach people that, like you're talking about these toxins that build over time. If you start addressing it early, you can prevent so many problems later on in life. And I, I try to stress that to people that are young, don't understand or just think, oh, that shit doesn't matter. You talked about the glyphosate. Even organic stuff. That stuff sprays over and can get into the organic side of things.

[B]

It's a fact. I mean, I think everyone needs to eat organic today. Yeah, I do too. But to your point, it you, as much as I try and I practice what I preach, okay. I am still being exposed. Yeah. I can't get away from it. I mean, that's why I still do my own detox. Right. I, I'm, I'm. It's something I will do for life. Because you cannot avoid the exposures. Organic food is still picking up high levels of aluminum, even from the sky,

[A]

let alone the water.

[B]

Right? Yeah. So you know, you have to do the best thing you can. That's why you have to focus on the majors. If you're drinking city water, what are you doing? Right? It's like get an RO unit. Yeah. You can get them for three, four hundred dollars at Costco. Okay. I'm not saying they're the best units. I'm just saying it's like you can do it. Okay? Every family should have one. No family should be drinking tap water. No. You know, if you can't afford all organic, although I think no one can afford not to get all organic. Eat from the clean 15 and avoid the dirty dozen. You see, there's steps that you need to take that are huge. Your person, what are you washing your clothes in? Because this is again, when I say focusing on the majors, what you wash your clothes in. These detergents, Name the brand. Regular. You know, detergents that people wash clothes in are loaded with fragrances that they do not have to disclose to you. The cancer and hormone disrupting ingredients that are in it. You know why they're protected by IP laws. So everything that has fragrance, your shampoo, your skin lotion, what you wash your clothes in, the reason these are bad is because they're absorbed. All these hormone disrupting chemicals are absorbed right into your skin, into your bloodstream. It's called transdermal. And it is on you for eight hours a day. Whatever. You have your clothes on. And then you're sleeping in your sheets for eight hours at night. And that means. So we just went 8, 8, 16. So that means for eight hours a day, you're walking around naked. My point is, is you probably have clothes on even longer than that. But the point is, is that you are absorbing these chemicals through your sheets and your clothing all the time. I'm telling you. So a big one is get good non fragrant, like ecover. Okay. Your eco. Is that what it's called? Seventh generation. Make sure. Because if it's not, the fragrance has to be either non fragrant, it usually says free and clear, or it has to be from essential oils. Do not buy it. The fragrances carry the biggest amount of toxins. That said, there's other toxins in there. When I walk my neighborhood. Walk your neighborhood, and you smell that smell from certain Houses. That's because they're using fabric softener. Fabric softener should be outlawed. It's that toxic.

[A]

Really.

[B]

And it's. And again, your exposure is great because you wear your clothes so many hours. You're in your bed so many hours and you're absorbing these chemicals. So change that, change your water, change your personal care products and you'll change your life. I mean, if you just do that.

[A]

So scent free like soap or body wash to scent for free detergent.

[B]

Yeah, all everything. And God forbid, don't plug. You use plugins. When I walked in here, remember I said I smell something. Candles are another one, you know, no candles, no fragrance.

[A]

What about hairspray? No good.

[B]

No fragrance. I made, they have. Hell, here's the difference today, in the last 10 years, five years, they have, they have a non toxic version of everything. Everything. Find it.

[A]

Find it.

[B]

I'm telling you, your personal care products, your water and yes, your food, the chemicals are causing disease. We went full circle now, right? Yeah. And I just. Now I'm giving people the exposures. Yeah. If you have still have silver fillings, that's a big one. Okay. That silver fillings, putting mercury into your brain 24, 7 and in your gut. You'll never fix your gut or your brain if you have silver fillings. Living in a moldy home, if you have these hidden infections. That's where we started. Those are the big ones. The big. Right. The big neurotoxic exposures. Now we're talking about living.

[A]

The little ones accumulate into something.

[B]

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, drinking out of plastic. Come on. We've learned, you know how dangerous these microplastics and nanoplastics are. Hormone disruption. You know what's in vogue right now? Everyone's taking hormones. Yeah. How's that working out? It's not. It's not. It works out. I talked to a gal today, she said, you know, when I first started taking them, it seemed like it was really helping them, but now it's not. Why was the question why. The reason is, is because that's not the problem. Right. You don't lack the hormone. Right. It's like in. Even if you did, what's in the control tab.

[A]

I was going to say what's causing the lack of hormone? If you are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's the thing is everybody wants to take the actual hormone, but they never want to look and see what's causing the depletion of lack in the first.

[B]

And remember I said toxins accumulate on our cells. Every hormone. Look, hormones do not make you feel better in your blood. They make you feel better in your cell. They have to connect to the antenna on your cell, get in the cell or their message and then you feel better. Now you burn fat efficiently. Everything make energy. Your brain works. No brain fog. All that happens when your hormones get in your cell. But if your cells are inflamed, number one cause toxins. They accumulate in and around the cells, driving cellular inflammation and they block that process.

[A]

When I was at our friend Warren's house and I went over there and he started showing me everything that was non toxic. And he got me the sheets ordered right away for our bed. And I was like, holy. Like I need to really look into this more and focus on it more understanding, knowing that we have grandkids now that I can pass this information on too. Because I mean, I want to prevent things early for everybody.

[B]

So if all we did is go back to the, the way we lived life in the 70s and 80s, we would solve everything. I mean, so my point is it hasn't been that long. No, we're talking 50 years here, right? It's like, you know, we just need to go back to then, right? It's like. And you know, and we can do that if we eat organic. We can do that if we buy the healthy products. You know, it's like you get, you get. I had this conversation with an old gentleman, right? Or I'm not eating organic. I never ate organic growing up. I said, yes, you did.

[A]

You just didn't know it.

[B]

You just didn't know it. Yeah, because they weren't spraying glyphen. I don't. And glyphosate was a 90s thing, bro. You know, it's like, yeah, it's like that's where it started. So. Yeah, you were eating organic. Well, it's like, yeah, we do have to pay for it.

[A]

Well, and then what they feed. That's why I do everything grass fed. Because I think people don't realize what that means and what they're feeding the animals brain.

[B]

That's literally so horrible. You know, you can tell I hate glyphosate. And so does Bobby, fortunately, because he's going to change some laws from the top down. But so now Monsanto, the company that produces it, right? So I'm going to need a bodyguard leaving this place. Right? But they were very clever because they created something called desiccation. So it's not bad enough that they're spraying all the crops with this herbicide, pesticide, glyphosate but they came up with something even more clever. When you. When they spray a grain, it creates a shriveling. Yeah. So they showed that it actually makes. It can double almost your harvest. So profits through the roof. If you spray soak your grain with this chemical right before harvest, it desiccates, it shrivels it, and then your harvest is like a breeze.

[A]

And at what expense to our health?

[B]

Exactly. But the farmers believe, because they're told, well, yeah, like vaccinations, right? They're told that it's fine, it's safe. I sat on a bus. I was staying at the Montage in Deer Valley, and I was taking the bus into town, and it was the Monsanto bus. I mean, they were there for a meeting. This, that guy in the front, he was so pro glyphosate. And here's the message, though. He believed it. They were laughing, saying how safe their product is. And I sat there like a coward because it was the whole pot. I was the only one on there. I mean, I did. I didn't say a word. I just. I don't know. I look back there, though, I think that the new me, I think I would have been like, can I tell you something? I'm. Because I'm older now, I don't care. I. You know what? I. I went through a process of like, what good is it going to be, right? Yeah. It's like, so we all do, you know. And then I also realized they believed their product. You know, I'm saying it wasn't like they were hoo hoo, ha. No, you know, like, people think Monsanto's trying to kill, but now there's people at the top. Dude, I've been there. You know these things, right? But I really believe at this level, they believed it. They thought people, you know, call their product cancer product. But by the way, you know, Bobby led the showing. Glyphosate causes non Hodgkin's lymphoma and cancer. So now millions and millions of dollars have been awarded to showing that this chemical causes cancer. You still walk in Home Depot and see Roundup. The active ingredient is glyphosate, okay? And then guess what? Spring spray in our food. So we know millions are being awarded in the corporate courts that it causes cancer. And we know all these things are true. And it's still being used. What other countries have outlawed it? Why not here? Because Monsanto has a foothold, man.

[A]

When they're paying you and then they're educating you and showing you how they regurgitate information and make it so convincing. I've been there. Like, when I started getting into supplements and stuff, I got duped because I was new and I was anxious. And that's what they do. They prey on people that are younger or more anxious and energetic and. And so I know firsthand because I've been through it. But then it's like going to medical school. What do they teach you? And talk about prescribe, prescribe, prescribe, put everybody on this. They don't get taught everything they need to know and they go in there with the right motive and heart.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

They're not doing anything wrong.

[B]

No doubt. And look, there's a time and a place for a drug, you know, I mean, I'm not slather, but you know, again, we take more drugs than any country in the world. We take more vaccines than any country in the world. Guess what? We have more chronic disease than any civilized country in the world.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And we rank last in infant mortality. That's insane. How's that working? Okay. Just something's wrong. So, you know, I think we need to do something different.

[A]

I agree. Yeah, but that's what you know, and it's the training. When I was in prison, no matter what you had, the answer was ibuprofen.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I mean, it didn't matter what you had. I don't care. But that's kind of how they're programmed. Even there, you know, it's like, well, just give them this. Well, same with doctors. If your cholesterol is out of their range, statin time, that's a, that's a $50 billion industry. Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. And you know, and we know statins are muscle problems, joint problems, liver problems, brain.

[A]

Oh, I can go on forever. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, wait, hold on. Another study just came out. Did you see it? Okay. Showing that the higher cholesterol, especially over 50, the longer people live.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Higher, more, better. More. Yeah. It's like, wait a minute. They had lied to.

[A]

They had mine down in the 30s and I panicked.

[B]

30s? Yeah.

[A]

LDL? Yeah. My LDL. No, no. And I panicked because I said, this is insane. Like, I don't want this. Because I had found some plaque in my arteries, which is probably due to low fat diet and everything else.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've been able to reverse just like you're told you can't. But I immediately said, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is not right. I'm not doing this. I. I took that statin for about three weeks until I learned enough in that three week time period. To get right off of it.

[B]

I, I just saw you yesterday. I was. Amelia is a really good restaurant here in Scot. Yeah, Amelia. Yeah. I, my daughter and I were there and I saw cardiologist Jack Wolfson. And so I, I said to my daughter, I said, hey, get the gear. You'll see the Instagram. Watch, wait for it. I said, watch this. I said, just follow me with the camera. So I said, start at the table. So I said, hey. So I'm speaking to the camera. I said, there's the famous cardiologist Jack Wilson over there. I said, I'm gonna ask him how you know, cholesterol causes heart disease and how you know how it is. So we walk over, I'm like, hey, aren't you the famous Jack Wilson, cardiologist on Instagram? He says, yeah. He knew who I was though, right? He's like, aren't you the famous Dr. F? He flipped it on me, right. Anyways, I'm like, you know, does cholesterol cause heart attacks? And how bad is it for you? He's like, cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks. Cholesterol is the best of the most important fat in the body. So I'm like, oh, yeah, that's so. But he's a, he's an anomaly, right? Yeah, they're, you know, doctors are raised that cholesterol will kill you. Meanwhile, it is the most important fat in the human body. It's the most important for the brain, is most important for the cell membrane.

[A]

So, yeah, when I learned all of that and started eating different like we talked about, everything changed. But that's a whole nother two hour topic.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So in this episode, we already pissed a lot of people off.

[A]

It's great.

[B]

And you know, political politics will do that, of course. You know, vaccines will do that or anything else we want to piss people off about.

[A]

Talk about the new food. Food pyramid.

[B]

So this south park already had it figured out, Right? So they always do. Yeah, that, that little clip, I, I, I did an Instagram with it. Right. So the south park thing, they're so funny.

[A]

They are.

[B]

You know, so we, we figured it out, sir. Yes. So how are we going to stop this spread of disease? He's like, we flipped the pyramid. That's it. We flipped it. And it's like, you see all the things, like all the stats coming down, right? Oh my God, they flipped the pyramid. But it's hilarious. But how the frick did it get flipped? I mean, the fact that all Bobby did in the administration and Oz did they? All they did is flip the pyramid. That's all they did. It was been a joke for years, but here we are. We literally flipped the pyramid and now it's right.

[A]

Yeah, but too many people know now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? Everything gets exposed at some time.

[B]

This just took too long. Yeah, but you know, it's like not that the. God forbid the Biden administration would get back in. I will call that the Kamal administration. They'd probably flip it back.

[A]

Yeah, because too late now because everybody know.

[B]

Everyone knows.

[A]

Well, man, I. Dude, I. I swear I love this. Well, we're gonna do more of these. Anytime you're in town or I'm in town, we gotta do more of. These are fucking awesome.

[B]

Yeah. All we do is chat.

[A]

I love it. Tell people before we go where they can come learn from you. Do your program.

[B]

You know, if you go to pompaprogram.com.

[A]

yeah.

[B]

There's some free classes there. Webinar things. The very stuff I teach doctors. Yeah, but it's meant for people looking for an answer. You can watch that. My Instagram's is D R P O M P A. Yeah. So simple.

[A]

I'll link everything in the descriptions. Man, I wish we had more time. I. I love this so much. I value the out of this time, I really do. So I. I thank you for coming and seeing me here and I know you were in town quick, didn't have a lot of time, so I. I appreciate you.

[B]

And watch our podcast. The Dr. Pompa podcast. That's right, watch our podcast.

[A]

I'm gonna promote the heck out of that, trust me, because that was so fun. But. All right, brother. Thank you so much, man. Everybody, I. I know you're gonna enjoy that. Where I don't have to say I hope, I know you will. In one way or another, it's going to get some reaction. So that being said, stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Gemelli and Dr. Pompa signing off.