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#397 - Wiley Curran - Co-Founder @ CPC - Building A Perpetual Holding Company Of Lower Middle Market Businesses
Oct 2801:22:53Summary readyToday, I sit down with my good friend Wiley Curran to break down the story behind CPC, a family-built perpetual holding company that buys and holds businesses indefinitely. We also discuss how CPC approaches acquisitions, management incentives, and organizational design to create enduring value across industries. We discuss: The evolution of CPC from a family chemicals business to a multi-company holding group Why long-term ownership outperforms short-term investing strategies How to build companies around customer intimacy and employee satisfaction The “five key battles” CPC uses to evaluate and improve every business Lessons learned from buying, integrating, and supporting 14 companies over time Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:12) - Running a CEO search (00:08:26) - The story behind CPC (00:23:39) - The importance of customer intimacy (00:37:02) - CPC's long-term vision and employee engagement (00:40:33) - Executive ownership and equity (00:41:29) - Structuring equity buyouts (00:42:58) - Valuation and liquidity rights (00:44:49) - Investment strategy and business acquisition (00:47:11) - Sourcing and evaluating business opportunities (00:50:14) - Onboarding and integration of new businesses (01:03:09) - Customer lifetime value and profitability (01:09:13) - Board meetings and CEO summits (01:14:36) - AI experiments and business impact (01:18:30) - Future vision and personal goals Support our Sponsors Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Collateral Partners: https://collateral.com/fort Chris on Social Media: Chris on X: https://x.com/fortworthchris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/ Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO POWERS is produced by https://www.johnnypodcasts.com/
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#396 - Jason Illian - Co-Founder @ Highmount Capital - Eternal Thinking
Oct 2101:21:50Summary readyToday’s guest is my good friend Jason Illian, Co-Founder @ Highmount Capital. Jason returns to the show for a meaningful conversation about faith, fatherhood, leadership, and living with eternal purpose. We explore how Jason integrates ministry into his home and family life, using sports as a vehicle to teach character and faith. He shares how he and his wife intentionally guide their children through social pressures, technology, and success, and how his approach to leadership, both at home and in business, is grounded in biblical truth. Together, we unpack what it means to lead a family, resist cultural distractions, and build a legacy that lasts beyond material success. We discuss: How Jason uses sports and family life as everyday ministry The challenges of parenting in a tech-saturated world Why true leadership requires being both prophet, priest, and king The cultural impact of Dude Perfect and the rise of faith-driven media How to shift from chasing empires to leaving lasting legacies Links: Dude Perfect Highmount Capital Jason on X Support our Sponsors: Collateral Partners: https://collateral.com/fort Vesto: https://www.vesto.com/fort Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:07) - Balancing family and ministry (00:04:02) - Raising intentional kids (00:12:10) - The role of fathers in spiritual leadership (00:18:23) - Navigating technology and social media (00:39:38) - Dude Perfect's positive influence (00:43:17) - The revival of good content (00:44:43) - Fear and cultural moments (00:45:50) - The role of Christians in society (00:49:09) - Hope for the future (00:50:29) - Leaving a legacy vs. building an empire (00:51:07) - Making intentional choices (00:54:34) - The importance of accountability (01:02:21) - The eternal perspective (01:12:09) - The impact of truth and integrity (01:19:40) - Final thoughts and encouragement Chris on Social Media: Chris on X: https://x.com/fortworthchris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepowerspodcast/ Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/ Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO POWERS is produced by https://www.johnnypodcasts.com/
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Fearless Decision Making - Jamie Winship - Replay
Oct 701:17:40Summary readyJamie Winship has decades of experience bringing peaceful solutions to some of the world’s highest conflict areas. After a distinguished career in law enforcement in the metro Washington D.C. area, Jamie earned an M.A. in English and developed a unique process of resolving inner conflict that results in the ability to lead and innovate from a position of authenticity and freedom. His unconventional efforts to bring about societal and racial reconciliation led him to Indonesia, Jordan, Iraq, Palestine, Israel, and back to the U.S. We discuss: How to discover your true identity Separation and Connection world views Jamie’s experiences working in the Middle East Bringing terrorists to the US and converting them to Christianity We'd appreciate you filling out our audience survey, so we can continuously work on providing relevant content to our listeners. https://www.thefortpod.com/survey Links Jamie's website Living Fearless by Jamie Winship Identity Exchange Finding Hope in Depression Topics (00:00:00) - Intro (00:00:37) - Jamie’s background and upbringing (00:04:31) - Being recruited into the CIA (00:10:25) - What is identity? (00:14:14) - How can I discover my true identity? (00:26:14) - Separation vs. connection world views (00:34:23) - Jamie’s experiences working in the Middle East (00:51:37) - How to change the mentality of another person (01:05:12) - Bringing Palestinian terrorists to a Christian men’s retreat Chris on Social Media: X: https://bit.ly/3BYIjcH LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch The POWERS on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Powerspod Visit our website: https://bit.ly/43SOvys Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO This episode originally aired on February 20th, 2024 The FORT is produced by Johnny Podcasts
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#395 - Scott Arnoldy - Founder & CEO @ Triten RE Partners - Scaling to $1.5B+ Across Multiple Cycles and Asset Classes
Sep 3001:10:51Summary readyToday I’m I sitting down with Scott Arnoldy, Founder & CEO of Triten RE Partners, to explore his journey from the frothy real estate markets of the mid-2000s to building Triten into a multi-vertical investment and development firm with ~$2B in investment volume. We talk about the lessons he learned at Goldman and Stockbridge during the GFC, the early days of striking out on his own, and how he’s evolved from being a dealmaker to focusing on building a scalable business. Scott shares his perspective on industrial outdoor storage, multifamily opportunities, and why leadership and team building have become his greatest priorities. We discuss: How the leverage-driven deals of the mid-2000s shaped Scott’s risk mindset The transition from opportunistic projects to building a long-term business with structure and focus The evolution of Triton’s investment approach, from value-add office to iOS and multifamily Why storytelling and clarity matter as much as numbers when raising capital Perspectives on the current real estate cycle, market uncertainty, and where compelling opportunities exist today Links: Triten RE Partners - https://www.tritenre.com/ Scott on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottarnoldy/ Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:35) - Scott's early career and real estate insights (00:13:04) - Navigating the 2008 financial crisis (00:19:27) - Starting a real estate firm: Challenges and lessons (00:30:41) - Building a successful real estate business (00:37:23) - Sheds and beds (00:38:53) - The role of investment committees (00:41:15) - Leveraging technology in real estate (00:46:24) - The importance of storytelling in deals (00:48:56) - The rise of industrial outdoor storage (iOS) (00:58:21) - Current real estate market analysis (01:01:33) - Looking ahead & future predictions Support our Sponsors Collateral Partners: https://collateral.com/fort Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Chris on Social Media: Chris on X: https://x.com/fortworthchris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/ Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO POWERS is produced by https://www.johnnypodcasts.com/
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#394 - Alex Robinson - Co- Founder & CEO @ Juniper Square - The New Survival Code for GPs (Private Markets Are Rapidly Being Disrupted)
Sep 2301:01:15Summary readyIn today’s episode, I sit down with Juniper Square Co-Founder & CEO Alex Robinson for a conversation on the seismic shifts reshaping private markets and the future of investing. We dig into the impact of interest rate changes, the rise of retail investors, and why GPs face both opportunity and disruption in today’s environment. We also go deep on artificial intelligence, how it’s already transforming knowledge work, and the role it will play in redefining private market operations. Alex shares both a macro view of these changes and the mindset he’s using as a CEO to navigate them inside Juniper Square. We discuss: - How rising rates have affected private credit, real estate, and venture capital differently - Why retail investors will be a defining force in the next decade of private markets - The tension between becoming a mega-cap manager or staying a differentiated sharpshooter -Why liquidity is one of the hardest challenges to solve for private investors - How AI will fundamentally rewire every role inside a GP and beyond Links: Alex on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexrob22/ Juniper Square - https://www.junipersquare.com/ Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:43) - The state of the private markets (00:16:35) - How Juniper Square is tackling LP Liquidity simplification (00:24:48) - The state of AI (00:34:27) - How AI will impact the typical GP (00:40:52) - Alex’s perspective on AI as a CEO (00:52:28) - Building JunieAI Support our Sponsors Collateral Partners: https://collateral.com/fort Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Chris on Social Media: Chris on X: https://x.com/fortworthchris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/ Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO POWERS is produced by https://www.johnnypodcasts.com/
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#393 - Alex Nyhan - CEO @ First Washington Realty - $9B Portfolio: How Neighborhood Centers Became the Most Resilient Asset in Real Estate
Sep 1601:05:17Summary readyAlex Nyhan is the CEO of First Washington Realty and an owner in FWR's entities. FWR owns interests in and manages approximately $9 billion of top-quality grocery-anchored shopping centers across the United States. Alex is one of the sharpest minds in real estate and this episode is proof of that. I’ve had the good fortune of learning from Alex for many years and is someone who always brings good insight. We discuss: - Lessons from structuring complicated public-private development projects - The investment philosophy behind First Washington’s 22 million square feet of neighborhood retail - Why grocery-anchored shopping centers have proven so resilient - How demographics, education levels, and supply constraints shape long-term value - The role of relationships and human connection in both tenant selection and consumer experience Links: First Washington Realty - https://www.firstwash.com/ Alex on LinkedIn - http://linkedin.com/in/alex-nyhan-b2b4914/ Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:02) - Alex’s background and early career (00:15:19) - Alex’s DC Convention Center Hotel project (00:23:32) - First Washington Realty overview (00:25:25) - Investment strategy and deal selection (00:29:21) - Focus on grocery-anchored shopping centers (00:31:05) - Case study: Kansas City suburbs (00:32:04) - Navigating supply constraints (00:32:34) - The resilience of retail in the e-commerce era (00:33:20) - The impact of e-commerce on malls and neighborhood centers (00:35:11) - The competitive landscape of retail investments (00:39:05) - Risk management in retail deals during COVID (00:41:38) - The value of tenant relationships in retail (00:44:49) - Balancing risk with mom and pop tenants (00:50:14) - The importance of education and demographics in retail (00:52:51) - Government intervention and retail development (00:57:04) - Consumer spending trends and market dynamics (01:02:10) - The role of human interaction in retail success (01:04:21) - Concluding thoughts on retail investment strategies Support our Sponsors Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Collateral Partners: https://collateral.com/fort Chris on Social Media: Chris on X: https://x.com/fortworthchris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/ Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO POWERS is produced by https://www.johnnypodcasts.com/
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#392 - Jason Baxter - Co-Founder @ Fostr AI - What Elite CEOs Know About AI That Others Don’t
Sep 401:02:32Summary readyMy Co-Founder, Jason Baxter, joins me once again to discuss the growth at FOSTR and how our team is thinking about the future of AI inside companies. Since our last conversation, Jason has sharpened his perspective on where the real value lies for businesses—moving beyond surface-level AI use cases to building the infrastructure that allows organizations to actually compound knowledge over time. We dig into how FOSTR is solving the data problem, why knowledge graphs are critical, and what it means for the next wave of AI adoption in business. We discuss: Why messy data is the biggest barrier for companies adopting AI The role of knowledge graphs in creating context and compounding company knowledge Why CEOs need to think about AI as infrastructure, not just a tool What’s next for FOSTR as it rolls out to more companies Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:52) - How FOSTR has evolved since the last time Jason was on the show (00:10:02) - FOSTR’s infrastructure stack (00:21:51) - The importance of clean data (00:28:03) - FOSTR’s Knowledge graph (00:44:00) - How FOSTR would work in a Real Estate Brokerage firm (00:49:34) - Who owns the data? (00:57:34) - What’s coming from FOSTR in the next 45-60 days Links: Request early access to FOSTR - https://fostrai.com/ Chris on Social Media: Chris on X: https://x.com/fortworthchris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepowerspodcast/ Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/ Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO POWERS is produced by https://www.johnnypodcasts.com/
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#389 - Imran Khan - Founder @ Proem Asset Mgmt - Investing In The Fourth Industrial Revolution
Jun 24, 202500:55:24Summary readyImran Khan is the Founder at Proem Asset Management. In this episode we explore the arc of his remarkable career—from his early days as one of Wall Street’s top-ranked analysts to leading global IPOs and eventually launching his own hedge fund. We discuss: - Why gross margins are a critical indicator of fundamental shifts in a business - How he met Joe Tsai and helped lead Alibaba’s record-setting IPO - The vision Evan Spiegel had that made Snap a generational product - His criteria for identifying high-quality public companies and warning signs to avoid - How private market hype has skewed investor incentives—and why that might be changing Links: Proem Asset Management - https://www.proemasset.com/ Imran on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dotkhan/ Imran on X - https://x.com/dottkhan Support our Sponsors: Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Vesto: https://www.vesto.com/fort BetterPitch: https://bit.ly/42d9L0I Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:17) - Becoming a great research analyst (00:06:44) - The difficulty in controlling gross margins (00:08:25) - How to research companies to invest in (00:12:53) - Are there similarities today in technology to the 2001 tech bubble? (00:17:11) - The state of AI investing (00:20:04) - The America/China AI race (00:23:26) - Imran’s experience with Alibaba (00:26:26) - The state of China’s inevitability (00:31:11) - Imran’s experience working at Snap (00:39:09) - Leaving Snap (00:40:26) - Imran’s fund structure (00:43:00) - Being drawn to bias (00:45:05) - Mercenaries vs. missionaries (00:47:07) - The market likes to fool the greatest number of people (00:50:18) - The pendulum of private and public market investing Chris on Social Media: The Fort Podcast on Twitter/X: https://x.com/theFORTpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch The Fort on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://bit.ly/43SOvys Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO
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#388 - Mark Toro - CVO @ Toro Development Co. - Developing Generational Mixed Use "Fortresses"
Jun 17, 202501:13:38Summary readyToday’s guest is Mark Toro, Chief Vision Officer @ Toro Development Co, based in Atlanta, GA. Mark unpacks the philosophy, economics, and human-centered detail behind some of the most successful mixed-use developments in the country. We talk through his journey from building suburban power centers to pioneering immersive experiences like Avalon, Colony Square, and the upcoming Medley. Mark shares how the 2008 financial crisis sparked his rethinking of real estate as a service business rather than just a physical asset—and how ideas like hospitality, branding, and community integration became central to his playbook. This episode is packed with specific examples, war stories, and lessons on what it really takes to develop places people never want to leave. We discuss: - Why demographics and household income drive everything in site selection - How do vertically integrated, mixed-use developments function financially and operationally - The importance of patios, music, and concierge-level service in creating “third places” - Why tenant selection is both science and art—and what betting on the right jockey really means - How a bottle of tequila became a company tradition symbolizing intentionality and pride in execution Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:43) - Mark’s career and background (00:08:03) - The gutted middle in retail (00:09:38) - Site selection criteria for a “fortress” (00:18:45) - Seamless integration (00:26:27) - The art of pitching tenants (00:31:42) - Mark’s approach to “opening” dates (00:33:28) - Betting the farm on tenants (00:35:46) - Office (00:40:18) - Parking strategies (00:41:51) - Hospitality vs. real estate (00:45:23) - Being Disney-esque (00:49:22) - Low-hanging fruit that properties can implement today (00:54:17) - Marketing funds (00:57:55) - Equity partners (00:58:56) - Why isn’t this model scalable? (01:04:10) - How much more profitable can a fortress be than other mixed-use areas (01:07:12) - Eric Weatherholtz & extending patio season (01:10:49) - The tequila story Support our Sponsors: Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Vesto: https://www.vesto.com/fort BetterPitch: https://bit.ly/42d9L0I Links: Mark Toro on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marktoro/ Toro Development Co. - https://torodevco.com/ Chris on Social Media: The Fort Podcast on Twitter/X: https://x.com/theFORTpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch The Fort on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://bit.ly/43SOvys Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO
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#387 - Ken Hersh - Co-Founder NGP Energy Capital Management - The Godfather of Energy Private Equity
Jun 3, 202501:16:54Summary readySince 2016, Ken Hersh has served as President and CEO of the George W. Bush Presidential Center which houses the George W. Bush Library and Museum and the George W. Bush Institute. In 1988, he co-founded NGP Energy Capital Management, one of the nation’s largest natural resources private equity firms which pioneered private capital investing in the sector. Until 2016, he served as CEO, investing over $12 billion, earning a 27-year 30% annualized rate of return, making it one of the nation’s leading private investors. In 2023, the Oil and Gas Investor magazine inducted Ken into its Hart Energy Hall of Fame as one of the top 50 “pioneering men and women who have shaped energy over the last half century.” Additionally, Ken manages his family office that invests across multiple industries. He sits on numerous corporate and not-for-profit boards, including the Texas Rangers Baseball Club. He sits on the Board of Overseers of the Hoover Institution and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Links: George W. Bush Presidential Center - https://www.bushcenter.org/ Support our Sponsors Ramp: https://ramp.com/fort Vesto: https://www.vesto.com/fort Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:53) - Ken’s early career (00:16:36) - Richard Rainwater and creating NGP (00:29:25) - The original thesis for NGP (00:34:55) - Scaling NGP (00:46:36) - The Shale revolution (00:49:29) - Horizontal Drilling in 2025 (00:51:45) - The importance of having a great business partner (00:54:01) - Is “Let’s back teams” still the best investment model? (00:55:01) - Ken’s approach to raising capital (00:56:37) - Is there a modern-day Richard Rainwater? (00:58:34) - When a deal goes wrong (01:06:04) - The global state of energy in 2025 Chris on Social Media: The Fort Podcast on Twitter/X: https://x.com/theFORTpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefortpodcast LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd Watch The Fort on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX Visit our website: https://bit.ly/43SOvys Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0 Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO
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