Healing IBD Naturally Dane Johnson On Holistic Strategies for Crohn's & Colitis

Summary

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The Good Question Podcast

Episode: Healing IBD Naturally – Dane Johnson on Holistic Strategies for Crohn's & Colitis

Host: Richard Jacobs
Guest: Dane Johnson, Founder of Crohn’s Colitis Lifestyle
Date: July 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on holistic, actionable strategies for understanding and healing Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD), including Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis. Guest Dane Johnson, a board-certified nutritionist and Crohn’s colitis coach, shares his own harrowing journey with IBD and dives deep into root causes, why modern life is driving a gut health epidemic, and practical steps for sustainable improvement and recovery.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Dane’s Personal Journey with IBD (01:29–03:13)

• Early Symptoms: Blood in stool at 19, initial avoidance due to shame.
• Diagnosis: Bounced between diagnoses—ulcerative colitis vs. Crohn’s—due to the similarity of symptoms but differences in affected digestive tract areas.
• Critical Condition: At 26-27, weight dropped to 120 lbs at 6'2", feeding tube, 25 bloody bowel movements/day, life-threatening. Surgery recommended but declined, leading to gradual recovery.

“I risked my life not getting the surgery, but I rolled the dice. I didn't get the surgery. And then I started getting better.”
—Dane Johnson [02:48]

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The Rise of IBD—Root Causes and the Microbiome (03:20–07:25)

• Epidemic Data: 1 million diagnosed in 1999, now ~3.2 million in the US. Diagnoses at all ages, from toddlers to seniors.
• Environmental & Food Factors: Gut-damaging toxins common in food (glyphosate, microplastics, polysorbate 80, certain gums, emulsifiers, antibiotics).
• Microbiome Disruption: Environmental toxins and food additives destroy beneficial gut bacteria, allowing pathogenic bacteria and yeast to proliferate (“Think of a city... If you don't have enough police officers, East Harlem is going to become all of Manhattan.” —Dane, 05:00).

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What Happens in the Body? The Gut-Immune Cascade (08:27–11:59)

• Functional Breakdown:
  • Poor digestion (liver, pancreas, stomach acid not working)
  • Microbiome out of balance (dysbiosis, candida/yeast overgrowth)
  • Damaged gut lining (“Chinese wall broken”)
  • Immune system overreacts and triggers wide-ranging symptoms
  • Overwhelmed liver and endotoxemia
• Symptoms: Skin issues, arthritis, brain fog, mitochondrial dysfunction
• Autoimmunity Connection: Not just IBD; same patterns found in other chronic diseases (RA, MS).

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Practical First Steps: What (Not) to Eat (12:15–14:17, 17:02–19:14)

• Initial Healing: The biggest improvements often come from removing harmful foods, not obsessively adding superfoods.
• Easy Wins:
  • Eliminate gluten, processed food, seed oils, high fructose corn syrup
  • Focus on home-cooked and organic foods
  • Eat three full meals; avoid constant snacking; drink water/tea, not soda or alcohol
  • “If your great-grandfather didn’t have it, you probably shouldn’t either.”
• Realistic Challenges: Social, work, and lifestyle environments make consistently clean eating tough due to availability and cost.

“Convenience has a consequence—and for some people it has terrible consequences.”
—Richard Jacobs [15:25]

• Convenience Tax: Dane warns that “anything that's convenient has a tax to your health, your gut health.” [15:31]

On the Road and in Restaurants: Practical Tips (17:11–19:14)

• Bring fruit, nuts, and yogurt from home as alternatives to fast food.
• At restaurants: Opt for boiled veggies, ask about cooking oils, order simple sides like avocado and fruit.
• Use sprouted, pre-soaked nuts and seeds for better digestibility.

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Core Dietary and Lifestyle Hacks (19:19–21:24)

• If you can't squish it, don't eat it (For severe IBD: no seeds or skins).
• Use ghee for cooking (high in butyric acid, good for the colon).
• Fermented foods like raw sauerkraut to aid the microbiome, but beware of histamine reactions if sensitive.
• Small, consistent daily upgrades—better protein, mineral water, and fermented foods.

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Social Shifts and Inspiration (22:46–23:20)

• There's increasing social acceptance and interest around gut-friendly “hacks.”
• Even people without gut issues are drawn to lifestyle upgrades that lead to reduced bloating, clearer skin, and better energy.

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Subtle Symptoms—Gut Health as Systemic Health (23:29–25:56)

• Watch for: Chronic bloating, indigestion, frequent bathroom trips, skin flare-ups, chronic fatigue, brain fog.
• Many mental health issues tied to gut neurotransmitter production (“90–95% of serotonin and dopamine is made in the gut” [24:26]).

“If I fix the gut, I'll commonly see all these crazy other diseases get better.”
—Dane Johnson [24:12]

• Social/Emotional Toll: Feelings of isolation, anxiety, and detachment common for those suffering chronic gut issues.

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Overlooked Causes and the Limits of Diagnosis (27:06–29:48)

• Lab tests often fail to detect underlying problems (especially parasites, viruses, mold/mycotoxins).
• Unexplained, undiagnosed symptoms may still respond well to supporting liver/microbiome/lymphatic health, not just GI medications.
• Simple, natural interventions (diet, movement, sleep, hydration) can result in meaningful benefits.

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Pathogen and Toxin Removal—Advanced Strategies (29:50–31:39)

• Pathogen Tiers: Parasites are hardest to find/treat. Also must screen for candida, pathogenic bacteria, mold toxicity, viruses.
• Functional medicine tailored to the individual is necessary for lasting healing; no one-size-fits-all protocol.

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Protocol Design and Customization (33:11–41:18)

• Customization & Frequency of Support:
  • "The plan has to be customized. It can't be generic.” [33:17]
  • High-frequency feedback (every 2–3 weeks) critical for real progress.
• Tracking: Keep specific notes on symptoms, food responses, supplement routines.
• Low Risk, High Reward: Focus first on gentle, supportive steps before aggressive treatments.
• Long-Term Cases: Example of bedridden patient helped with gradual probiotic introduction, mitochondrial support, minerals, and movement.

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What Can the Average Person Do? (41:26–45:27)

• Only a small minority need highly intensive support; most people can see vast improvements with small, sustainable lifestyle changes.
• Simple, Foundational Advice:
  • Ditch processed foods, especially if you’re already healthy.
  • Stop drinking from plastic bottles; use stainless steel.
  • Prioritize clean water and air (in-home filters).
  • Movement and sleep impact health as much as diet.
  • Consider “wealth in health”: reallocating resources from unhealthy spending to clean food, supplements, or air/water quality.

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Getting Started: Step-by-Step Summary (46:09–49:34)

Dane’s “Best First Steps” (condensed guidance):

1. Eat only when sitting for proper meals. Avoid snacking.
2. No plastic water bottles. Get a home water filter.
3. Dry month: No alcohol, no fried/fast food for 30 days.
4. Bedroom = sleep/relax only. Remove TV from bedroom.
5. Add healthy rituals—meditation, prayer, minerals, and clean electrolytes.
6. Upgrade your food: Spend your “junk food” budget on better quality meats/produce/sprouted nuts.
7. Make strategic swaps: e.g., use Olipop instead of diet soda, dry farm wines/tequila instead of beer or cocktails.
8. **Invest in long-term: **Whole-house filtration, HEPA filters for air, and conscious lifestyle design.
9. Act now: Small actions done consistently prevent years of misery and costly medical interventions.

“What good is it to have all this money and work so hard if you don't feel good in your body?”
—Dane Johnson [48:52]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You have to divorce Western world thinking. ...You were born into a world of false conveniences.” —Dane Johnson [14:27]
• “Anything that's convenient has a tax to your health, your gut health.” —Dane Johnson [15:31]
• “If you can't squish it, don't eat it.” —Dane Johnson [19:19]
• “Convenience has a consequence, and for some people it has terrible consequences.” —Richard Jacobs [15:25]
• “We don't cheat, we celebrate.” —Dane Johnson [14:27]
• “The quicker you get on it, the better.” —Dane Johnson [12:15]
• “Be the CEO of your health. It starts right now. It might not be easy, but it's doable and it's the most valuable thing on the planet.” —Dane Johnson [51:09]

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Resource Recommendations

• Book: The Toxin Solution by Dr. Joseph Pizzorno
• Supplements & Foods: Bone broth protein, ghee, sprouted nuts (livingnuts.com), Paleo Valley beef sticks, raw sauerkraut (rawsuperkrauts.com), pasture-raised meats (BuyRanchDirect), high-quality water filters (Springwell).
• Free Support:
  • Free IBD session and resources: CrohnsColitisLifestyle.com
  • Instagram & YouTube: @CrohnsColitisLifestyle

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Important Timestamps

• Dane’s IBD Journey: 01:29–03:13
• Epidemic Data & Root Causes: 03:20–07:25
• Gut–Body Cascade: 08:27–11:59
• Diet Protocol Basics: 12:15–14:17, 17:02–19:14
• Lifestyle Tips (Restaurants, Snacks): 17:11–19:14
• Symptoms Beyond the Gut: 23:29–25:56
• Healing Principles & Protocol Design: 33:11–41:18
• Starter Steps for Most People: 46:09–49:34
• Key Call to Action: 50:08–51:11

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Final Takeaway

The path to gut healing, especially for chronic IBD, requires both foundational habits (diet, stress reduction, movement) and often, a customized approach monitored with expert help. Yet, everyone—regardless of their health status—benefits immensely from simplifying, avoiding the modern “convenience tax,” making conscious food and environmental choices, and always being the CEO of your own health.

If you’re struggling, reach out for expert guidance, but know the first steps are always in your own hands.

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Transcript

[Richard Jacobs]

You're listening to the Good Question podcast with Richard Jacobs. Our goal is to make each of our guests exclaim, hmm, that's a good question. I don't know the answer. Because when that happens, it means you, the listener, may be inspired to learn more beyond the interview and to ask great questions yourself that lead to new insights. In this podcast, we cover historical and current anthropology, comparative religion and history. Welcome. And let's get started.

Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Good Question Podcast. Yesterday is Dane Johnson. He's the founder of Crohn's Colitis lifestyle. We're going to talk about Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, irritable, irritable bowel disease, etc. Dane is a board certified nutritionist and a very successful Crohn's colitis coach. That means he actually helps people. He's had his own wrangling with, you know, these terrible diseases. So it'd be a very good call today. I believe that will help a lot of people. So welcome, Dane. Thanks for coming.

[Dane Johnson]

Thanks, Rich, and thanks for having me. And hopefully we can change some lives today and just figure this thing out, because inflammatory bowel disease is, you know, one of the worst things that can happen to us. Hopefully we can. We can learn and make it one of the best things.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah, I mean, probably everyone's had at least occasional stomach pains, sometimes late at night, and, man, it's not fun. It feels horrible and it hurts. But I'm sure there's nothing to persistent pains and problems whenever you eat. Maybe you could start by telling us about, like, your own journey with Crohn's and colitis. What happened to you?

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, so 19 years old, I started getting blood in the stool randomly. You know, a lot of stress, working out a lot. And you didn't know if I just ate something or something happened. A lot of shame. Didn't want to tell anybody. And finally throughout college, you know, I started noticing it more and more. Went to the doctor, got diagnosed ulcerative colitis. Ironically, later on, another doctor, another hospital said, no, it's Crohn's disease, which is a different form of ibd. And then the doctors and hospitals kind of went back and forth. It's ulcerative colitis. No, it's Crohn's disease. They're very similar. It's just where the inflammation is and how it's like a subcategory of inflammatory bowel disease. So that's when I was diagnosed, and then it kind of just progressed. So from 21 22, 2 to 26, 27. It got worse and worse until it was life threatening and it nearly killed me in 2014 in the hospital.

[Richard Jacobs]

What is, what does life threatening mean? Like you can't absorb any nutrients or like, what does that mean?

[Dane Johnson]

So it means, yeah, I lost. I went to £120, 6, 2. I was on a feeding tube. I was having 25 bloody balance a day. Extremely anemic, extremely dehydrated.

[Richard Jacobs]

Holy.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah. Could not, could not eat, could not drink. Lost consciousness for days. My body couldn't absorb anything. It was, the inflammation was so bad. And then I was too sick to do surgery because I wanted to cut out my colon and just attach a bag on my. It's called a stoma bag, Mango.

[Richard Jacobs]

They didn't do that well.

[Dane Johnson]

And they do it to a lot of people in this world. It's kind of what I'm passionate about is helping support people with this. Because the surgeon was waiting out the room and they just said, give us the green light. And luckily my mom helped. I mean it could have killed me. So anyone listening who's built deal with this like this is a serious thing. I, I risked my life not getting the surgery, but I rolled the dice. I didn't get the surgery. And then I started getting better. I can share actually one of the root causes of why I got sick is how I got better.

[Richard Jacobs]

Let's start with that. Why, why do people, what's typical? Is it any age, any circumstance or what, what causes it?

[Dane Johnson]

It's an epidemic, man. It's, it's okay. In the year two, 1999, there was 1 million people diagnosed with inflammatory bowel disease in the United States. Now it's about 3.2 million. And it didn't, first case didn't exist till like the 1950s. So you're talking a 50 year spread for a million. 14 year spread for 2 million. 7 year spread for 3 million.

[Richard Jacobs]

Really?

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah. So now, I mean, we get parents with 2 year olds calling us. I've got, yeah, I've got people who got diagnosed in their 60s, no problems before that.

[Richard Jacobs]

Weird. So what, what happens is this like a systemic microbiome imbalance that just cascades or what happens?

[Dane Johnson]

Pretty much. I mean it's, it's a cascade of our environment getting destroyed and our bodies responding differently. So the microbiome is, you know, the city of bacteria that keeps your body in balance. Most of must have heard 70% of your immune system lives in the gut. So when you hurt that area, it, there's no telling what's going to happen, but just autoimmune diseases on the rise everywhere, which is all linked to the gut. So you got rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, all these things. So if I was to break it down to why I believe this epidemic is happening is the destruction of the microbiome through microplastics. Toxins in our food. Like really big hitters is going to be glyphosate emulsifiers like polysorbate 80 or certain GW gums that are just really injuring the gut lining. Microplastics, antibiotics. They're just. Just destroying this very divine ecosystem in our gut. And then it allows certain bacteria, candida or other things to proliferate when they do, because they're not in check anymore. Like, think of a city, right? If you don't have enough police officers, East Harlem is going to become all of Manhattan. So it starts to spread. That's what SIBO is like small intestine bacteria overgrowth. That's an imbalance. So when I say proliferating, it's an imbalance. Things that are naturally there, but when they overgrow, they become inflammatory, they release toxins, and it causes a cascade across the body. Now, no one tells you this when you're diagnosed with a chronic gut disease. So you have to like, go back and I'm 12, 15 years later telling you guys now. Yeah, it's. It's absolutely microbiome issues. One of the core issues.

[Richard Jacobs]

Well, as you. You said polysorbate. I believe in guar gum. I flash whatever it is. What flashed in my mind is I've seen that on labels a lot.

[Dane Johnson]

Yep.

[Richard Jacobs]

So is it. How pervasive is this stuff? And it's. It's. I guess it makes a lot of things. Food shelf stable. Is that why it appears so many places?

[Dane Johnson]

It helps to bind foods together. You know, I think the bigger one that has more clinical research is the polysorbate 80. There's a lot of different gums that are not a big problem for people. But if you're sensitive and it's kind of like an epigenetic roll of the dice. If you start to hurt your body, we don't know how your body's going to respond, because are you someone who. Those. Those colonies are going to grow back? Like, are you? So my mentor and with microbiome will say, are you a good host? So beneficial. Has to have. Has to like you. You know, you have to. It's a roll of the dice. So when you add in all you

[Richard Jacobs]

have to Put out food that I like. You know, you can't just invite it over your gut and have nothing for it to eat.

[Dane Johnson]

And even when you do have things to eat, once you've diagnosed ibd, we know you just got a weakened gut where you're susceptible, so you have to stay on top of it where other people don't have to try as hard. It's the same thing with mold. Like three, like everyone listening who's got any kind of chronic disease, it can be the same issue causing rheumatoid arthritis, cancer or inflammatory bowel disease. You could have the inability to process mycotoxins found from mold in your house where your brother or your mom doesn't have the problem. So you get sick. They don't has nothing to do with the food. So there's different root issues. We all respond different. Same thing with like parasites or a person could be sitting here having beer filled with glyphosate and yeast. And they don't have an antibody reaction. Right. They don't have antibody to certain yeast like acromize or like Saccharomyces cerevisia, like a person who has genetically predisposed to IBD would. Right. So if you have the high antibody Aska Anti Saccharomycese antibodies, you are 70% more likely or to be diagnosed with Crohn's disease specifically. So there are all these root issues that are attacking the body and then they're expressing themselves in different, different quote unquote diseases that the doctors are labeling. But all the diseases, the doctors don't know the root cause. So IBD equals ip. It's like it's better if the doctor just said, hey, you got chronic inflammation in this part of the body. We don't know what causes it, but we have steroids, antibiotics, immunosuppressants and surgery. Do you want any like that's kind of just realness of it.

[Richard Jacobs]

So instead of irritable bowel disease, we call the idiopathic bowel disease. I guess.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, it's. And so what that's where. That's why natural medicine is on the rise is because it now we're starting to look at what's actually happening with the innate body, the divine body body. So root issues is going to be toxins, toxin overload and our body is all going to express differently the ones that you got to watch out with the gut. Glyphosate, microplastics, emulsifiers like that polysorbate 80. It's what holds ice cream together or like jif, Jeff, you ever look on top of jif? It's just like a meaty little peanut butter. Or you get a natural one.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah.

[Dane Johnson]

Oil on top. That's the difference. The emulsifiers. Right. So those kind of bulkers, emulsifiers can be a problem. Then you got, you know, other toxins like VOCs in the air, volley volatile organic compounds or PCBs, or heavy metals like chlorine and mercury and lead that are all clinically researched and shown to disrupt the microbiome and maybe linked to ibd, ibs, all of it. So these.

[Richard Jacobs]

Are there any an area in the coal mine foods that, you know, if you have problems with them, that's like a really good first indication that you're headed down a bad fast.

[Dane Johnson]

If you've got a problem with I. I would say a sign. If you eat insoluble fiber or raw foods and you see it undigested all the time, that's a sign of really poor digestion, which means you're very susceptible. If you constantly get bloated and gassy, that's a sign that you have bacteria overgrowth, usually, which means you're going to be more susceptible. And you could. It could lead to what's called metabolic endotoxemia. So don't think that a diagnosis is objective. It's subjective, so it can move. That's what doctors don't tell us. And you need to really understand right now is you can get IBS and it can turn into ibd. You can get IBD and it can turn into colorectal cancer. These. These problems do continue to perpetuate if they're not fixed at the root issue. And you can't just suppress it away. That's why, like, people go, hey, I got my colon removed and good for three years, and then I'm bad again because the root issues were never dealt with. So. And also the good news is, is everything you do naturally and everything you do conventionally can be combined for a greater result. So you have to use misalamine or a biologic, do it with the natural protocols, and I bet your chance of getting into remission goes up, you know, 2, 3, 5x. You can't just say, I'm gonna eat Burger King and go on these drugs and everything's gonna be okay. It don't work that way, especially by the time you're diagnosed, because by the time you're diagnosed, the problem has proliferated into multifactorial. So with ibd, you've got five, like bioch biochemistry, I Should say image issues going on the body you have. Your digestion process doesn't work. That's liver, pancreas, and stomach acid. Your microbiome is out of balance. Okay. The ability for the. The beneficial bacteria to keep in line. All the dysbiotic bacteria or candida or viruses or so forth. Then you've got the gut lining that is injured. It's like the Chinese wall or the Berlin Wall has been broken down. That's opening up the bloodstream and the immune system to whatever's in the body. And that's where you get severe autoimmune reactions. Skin issues, arthritic issues, brain fog, M. Chondri dysfunction, and your liver getting overwhelmed called metabolic endotoxemia. So the. The liver can't deal with all the endotoxins released from the proliferating bacteria that causes sibo so bad.

[Richard Jacobs]

Go ahead.

It's like a chronic dysbiosis that starts breaking down all these ancillary things, you know, the stomach lining. Yep. Et cetera. And then it just gets worse and worse and worse.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah. That's why they put us like. Mesalamine is a natural. It helps to reduce reactive oxygen species in the gut, specifically the colon. They stumbled upon it helping with ulcerative colitis. So that's why they. They use it because it helps to metabolize the hydrogen peroxide buildup from that person's inability to do it themselves. So it's just like a. It acts almost like a powerful antioxidant like RDLA does the same thing, which is a metabolite of alpha lipoic acid. That's why I take high. I'll give certain clients high dose of that with ulcerative colitis can help put them in remission. Okay. So it's like, it's. It's a cascade effect that you. It just goes off. So digestion, microbiome. Then the gut lining. Think of the chines wall is broken. You got no border control, and that leads to the bloodstream. And 70 of the immune system lives right behind the gut lining. So now your. Your immune system is going to freak out the stuff that's not supposed to be there. Then you've got the nervous system. So the autonomic nervous system, it's responding based on what you're experiencing. That's the stress, that's the earthing sunlight. Chill out, good sleep. You got to be able to give your body the signal to chill out. And all of that's going to help with the 6, which is the balance of the immune system. So all of these things are autoimmune disease. Your immune system's freaking out. Why? Because of those five things. And then you've got to after the toxins we talked about, if you want a good book of anyone listening of just like, okay, I want to dive into toxins, read the toxin solution by Dr. Joseph Bizarno. And he's just going to break down the main toxins in our air, food and water. But all toxins, air, food and water. What's a toxin? A man made chemical predominantly.

[Richard Jacobs]

So there how a protocol? I know it depends on the situation of the person, but how difficult are the protocols to heal? Is it just don't have products anymore with polysorbate 80 and gurgum or like, like how far do you have to go?

[Dane Johnson]

Well, the crazy thing about it is you can get massive results from doing a few things. Like I Rich, you've probably heard of people online, it's like, oh, I did this one thing and it changed my life. They're not lying because everything you do can have a compound effect in the body because everything in the body is connected. So some people will get better where they get rid of stress, they go out in sunlight and they stop eating. Drinking alcohol for a week and they feel a lot better. So it has this massive where it takes pressure off the detox pathways, it helps the microbiome reset, the cells calm down, the immune system calms down. So, so you can get a great result by doing something that just works in your body and it just like boom. It just bounces off and gives you a 10x response. But other people, depending on how sick you are, you have to add, you know, 10, 15 different protocols to try to get that your body respond because it's so sick that the negative inflammatory energy is compounding towards you. And that's the chronic sick. Right? And that happens usually when you're diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. So the quicker you get on it, the better. Someone who's listening is going, wow, what do I do? The first thing you do is you just stop doing things that put you in an inflammatory place. Like it's more about what you're not eating than what you are eating. For anyone who just wants to start getting better, that doesn't cost a lot and that's low risk.

[Richard Jacobs]

What do you mean you, what do you mean you're not eating versus what you're eating?

[Dane Johnson]

Meaning that you can sit here and argue if you should have more plants or more meats or if grains are bad or nuts are Good. But really what you want to focus on is getting rid of the obvious that everyone agrees. Get rid of the gluten, get rid of the processed food, get rid of the seed oil, get rid of high fructose corn syrup. Get rid of all the chemicals and all the packages. Try to eat more home cooked meals or organic foods and stop snacking in general. And eat three squirrel meals a day. Stop drinking things that you got to pop open. Drink water and tea. Hot water. Right. Hot water, tea, chamomile, ginger, peppermint, a little lemon juice, you know, electrolytes. You know, be careful of just opening things like most things. I mean, you can spend the extra money and find stuff, especially in California where it's a little cleaner with this way and that way. But if you want to understand the spectrum, just try to eat things that your great grandfather had access to and you're pretty much going to get. Get hit the nail on the head with 99% accuracy of eliminating most toxins in your food.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah. The problem is though, we're literally, when you're outside your house, at work, wherever you're going, you're literally surrounded by 99% of things that your grandfather wouldn't run into.

[Dane Johnson]

Exactly. That's why there's an epidemic of sickness. And so that's where strategy comes in. And that's where it takes time. It's like never in, in life have we had so much convenient convenience that was toxic. And then we had to deal with so much things that are naturally addicting and colorful. That's so bad for. I don't think humans have ever been tested in this way. I don't think our great grandfather would, would have like won this test in 1855. It just didn't exist. So I think that what I do, and this is something I really say heavily, like, you got to divorce. Western world thinking. I mean, they use the word divorce because it paints that picture of like how it feels and what it's like. You know, you were born into a world of false conveniences and you can do it. And that's why I always tell people when I work with them, like, we don't cheat, we celebrate. You can do it. Just know, understand it and start building systems and proof of concept that you don't need it. So when you have it, you can also let it go. It's like the difference between a guy who's addicted to a pack a day of cigarettes versus someone who can just have one once in a while and let it go. You know what I'M saying you got to know yourself.

[Richard Jacobs]

I guess maybe you could say convenience has a consequence and for some people it has terrible consequences. Yep.

[Dane Johnson]

I called it convenience tax. Anything that's convenience has attacks to your health, your gut health. So if you've been diagnosed with IBD like I. I was and you were life threatening like I was. I mean I was one of the worst cases you can have. I had to really own this, but I mean rich beforehand. I worked at Papa John's Pizza at McDonald's twice a week. It was seven bucks for a thousand calorie meal. Tastes good. Are you kidding me? I get it. So it's, you know, little things you can do is just like takeaways to for snacks or things on the road. Like get un, get a, like a coconut yogurt or an unsweetened yogurt. Add your own honey, add your own berries. I always bring fruit everywhere, like bananas, blueberries, blackberries. Berries are the best fruits for your health. They're high in a oxidants, polyphenols, they're low in sugar and they're great and a great fiber source. Help you poop well and help with the microbiome. They're great prebiotic, you know, like bananas can be really good because there's no seeds, no skins, high in magnesium, potassium, and they're 100 calories in each, you know, you know, go from, go for like a clean meat. I would just go into a whole foods, go to the hot food bar or wherever and just get some chicken, avocado, a little side of carrots, something like that. You know, like just try to eat things that are a little bit more natural. And when you're starving, usually you just need meat, salt, a little fat. And white rice like white rice, even though it's not really nutritionally dense, it's not too risky if it's clean and low in arsenic. It doesn't have any oxalates, lectins or phytic acids acid. So like a kanji or just a, like a basic cleaned organic white rice can be most likely not going to hurt your gut. Is it nutritionally dense? No, but the salad's nutritionally dense and anyone with gut issues is probably going to feel terrible on the salad. So just because something's nutritionally dense doesn't mean it's going to be good for you.

[Richard Jacobs]

Oh, what's, what's. So you mentioned getting rid of seed oils, gluten this, that and the other. What seems to be the most difficult thing for people to get rid of or to stop having alcohol.

[Dane Johnson]

I mean that's really in our society I'm, I was able to really cut alcohol a few, few years ago. But even then I'm going to have this organic wine a few times a year. And that's okay. I mean you got to find what's right for you. But I'd say alcohol is really tough for people. Breads bakery is really tough for people. The best way to do it is just try to make your own stuff at home. You know, even simple like organic flowers and you start making it. So you get rid of all these other ingredients and all those little binders or emulsifiers we talked about can be helpful. Another one that's you know, hard is just yeah, the fast food, everyone's on the road, everyone's got work. You know, you get an hour at lunch and you're in an office and where are you going to go? It's just right there, there. So what I, you know, also would say is make people earn their tips. When you go to a restaurant, just learn how to read a menu. And so common questions I'll ask them is hey, can this be cooked? Can this either be boiled? So like when I get a side of vegetables, I never have them grill it, never always boil it because they don't need oils and it's way easier to break down. So if you have low stomach acid, it's way easier on your gut and it's way easier for the babies. I got kids so it's way easy for the babies to eat. So I always tell them like, like hey boil it and try to cook it like, like so my 18 month old or 20 month old can, can eat it, right? Simple things like that. Like 2, what oil is this cooked in? Do you have a non cut extra virgin olive oil or do you have even a butter? I'll take a butter like a real cow butter over canola oil, safflower oil or soybean oil all day. Can I swap like one of my favorite sides? I just get avocado with raw extra virgin olive oil and sea salt flakes. And that's like it's cost like four bucks as a side instead of some trash appetizer that cost 18 bucks bucks. So I'm just, I always look like a side of fruit. Like I just know, know how to move around food and work with the waiter and make them earn your tip and then find snacks. Like with snacks I get sprouted nuts. So pre sprouted organic nuts. I go to a place called livingnuts.com with a Z at the end. Living nutsnutz.com no affiliation and it's, I get like sprouted pecans, pumpkin seeds, walnuts, and pistachios. Those are some of my favorite. And I'll just throw in some organic dried cranberry, organic cacao nibs. Throw it in a ziploc bag. Boom, we got a little trail mix.

[Richard Jacobs]

Why is this. Is the sprouted just have more microbes in it? Is it fermented in the sense?

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, sprouted's a big word that it's been soaked. And when you soak any kind of seed or. Or grain, it helps to break apart all the plant defenses called lectins or phytic acid or other things that's on the plant. And it helps all the nutrients be more bioavailable so it's easier to digest. Basically. One of the best hacks you can always think about when you're trying to eat food is make it more digestible and more absorbable and you get less inflammatory response. So, you know, if you're brand new and you're really sick right now, this isn't for everyone. Unless you're really s. And you have ibd. But no seeds, no skins. If you can't squish it, don't eat it. That's a really good foundation just to start with, when you don't know what to eat and why. And everyone's talking about all these famous diets. Just go, no seeds, no skins. If you can't squish it, don't eat it. If you can make it at home, it's even better. These are just variables that if you just start there, then you can say, how do I have chicken? Or how do I have these plants? Or how do I have fruit? Or how do I have certain fats? And then try to cook in fats, not oils, if you can. Oils are best raw, like an extra virgin olive oil raw on avocado. Avocado. And cook with ghee. If you don't have a serious dairy issue, ghee is the best. It's clarified butter 99, free of any casein lactose, and it's high in butyric acid, one of the most important protective short chain fatty acids for the colon. So I cook most of myself in ghee. And then, you know, a lot of times I just. I spend a little extra money just to buy premium stuff. So I'll buy, like my beef patties. I buy them organic pasture, raised from a local farm. I get them online, and then I get inside of it. Infused grass fed cow liver. 10% ratio of liver to beef. So right there I've got dense heme iron, I've got methylated bees, I've got my fat soluble vitamins, A, D, K, E all in that liver. Like liver is the most nutritionally dense food on the planet. So the, in my, my two year old loves it. And then I get very specific like sauerkraut, fermented foods. Like these are little hacks you can take away that if you just even get this in your life, your gut's gonna thank you. I love a place called like rawsupercrauts.com I think it's called Raw. It's Super Krauts or Raw super crowds guys. And then a great place I love to get beef is called Bob Buy Ranch Direct and look at their beef booster. But these are all little things where you can figure it out, like snacks. I'll get like Paleo Valleys beef sticks, right? They're like a dollar, they're like 80 cents a beef stick. It's like 10 grams of protein.

[Richard Jacobs]

Oh wow.

[Dane Johnson]

Nothing in it. No nitrates, organic, no crazy black pepper or any of this stuff. You get in like a Slim Jim and it's like I just give them to my kids. I'm on the road, so I got my, I got my trail mix, maybe a little coconut yogurt with some berries or fruit and honey. Maybe I've got some raw cheese with some blackberries, blueberries, you know, maybe I'm making a quick little shake. My favorite protein is like a bone broth protein. I don't really do a lot of. Unless it's a whey isolate and a really good one, usually like a bone broth, which is hydrolyzed beef. Most people autoimmune are going to respond. So these are all like after you've been doing this for 12, 13, 14 years, you just build systems. I call it shield. Like you build your shield, you build your systems around food, people, lifestyle, your goals. Like I want to get married and not have problems or I want to gain £20 or I'm a professional athlete. You just got to build your unique answer and make it work for your life. And then there's, then really the, the unveiling happens that everyone around you kind of wants this too, is they just want it to be convenient. I think the world's really getting over poisoning ourselves. Like everyone kind of just like you ever notice this? You go to like a club or even, you know, I don't really do all the party scene anymore. Like I did when I was 20s. But I started to notice the shift that less people were having crappy alcohol and more people were getting, like, you know, hard seltzers that were gluten free and yeast free. Or they're. They're drinking tequila only, right? They're at this party and they're doing tequila because they know that it's lower sugar and it's gluten free, and they'll have less of a hangover.

[Richard Jacobs]

So it.

[Dane Johnson]

There does seem to be the shift that everyone wants to have a good time, but we don't want to hurt ourselves doing it.

[Richard Jacobs]

Right.

[Dane Johnson]

And so that's the awakening that you want to step into. And then you just enroll everyone you love around that and just come up with simple, convenient strategies. And if you have IBD or ibs, you will realize that people who don't even have these problems are still interested in the hacks and the protocols and the biohacking that you're gonna learn and figure out. They're getting excited about it, especially women. Like, if you're not bloated and you're not gassy and you. You look skinny and fit in those jeans still, like, the other girls who don't have GI issues are like, what are you doing? I need to talk with your nutritionist.

[Richard Jacobs]

Right.

[Dane Johnson]

Like, what are you doing? Like, get people inspired to live this way, because it's actually more freeing and.

[Richard Jacobs]

Well, tell me a bit more about the. What percentage of people that have some kind of bowel problem don't even know what are more subtle signs and symptoms that they have a problem? Yeah.

[Dane Johnson]

So, you know, everything in our modern world of diagnosis is, like, once it's already really, really bad, I think you should start acting. If you have chronic bloating or you see signs of indigestion or heartburn, I think you should start acting now. If you are someone who gets chronic diarrhea or has to go to the bathroom four times a more, I would start acting right now. If you're somebody who gets, like, cramping and pain all the time, or you're just cross, you just have cystic acne, don't take. I would never take Accutane. Do not take that. Start acting now. If you have chronic arthritic pains around your body, chronic fatigue, brain fog, that's all the gut. Like, the gut. One of the craziest things is, you know, I'm a gut specialist, and I. I see people with all sorts of diseases. I don't even know where to start with Rick. Okay. Like, Rich I'm like, I don't know anything about it, but if I fix the. The gut, I'll commonly see all these crazy other diseases get better. Like things that, like, people have been sick for 40 years. It's nuts. Yeah.

[Richard Jacobs]

Well, again, with bowel problems, do you see any mental issues? Oh, yeah. Like, what do you see?

[Dane Johnson]

Well, first off, 90% of the 90, 95 of the serotonin and dopamine is made in the gut. So if you've got microbiome issues, you're not going to feel. You're not going to get those good feelings as much. And you're going to have hard time sleeping, you're gonna have anxiety. Plus, if you have malabsorption, you are not going to be breaking down those fats to make cholesterol, which helps to create. Regulate hormones. Hormones. It's a vicious.

[Richard Jacobs]

How were you when you. Yeah. When you had, you know, the IBD or ibs? Like, were you depressed? Exactly. Like what. What is common in people? Is it depressed? Are they angry? Are they this show signs of bipolar? Like what. You know, for the mental set of issues. What, what manifests with these problems?

[Dane Johnson]

We're all a little bit different, but it's, you know, it's. It's like you're at a loss. You're weak, you feel like a victim. You feel alone and isolated in your problems.

[Richard Jacobs]

You.

[Dane Johnson]

You don't sleep well, no one understands you. So you feel. It's hard to get like, you know, with me and you're out and about. Like, we're on a Friday night. Like, I'm just. We're hanging out, work's done. We were able to build each other up and the energy comes up in the room. We, like, laugh, we give each other hugs. Like, yeah, you're not there. You're kind of just like putting on a smile and you're so anxious, trying to be there for other people and keep the energy up. But you're. You're like. You almost want to leave. You just don't feel good in your body. You can't be present. You. You don't have the energy. You can hardly even think and have a conversation. You have brain fog your head somewhere else. Even in celebration situations, you feel like you don't even want to go to a party. You can't even eat or do what everyone else is doing and they have no idea. And if they do have an idea, they can't make sense of it. So it's.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah. Something else. Right?

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah. And it's debilitating and People, you. There's a lot of us who don't even have like 10, 15 bowel movements a day that constipated. Then this is happening. They can't even release or there's no diagnosis. I. We see people all the time where they're going. The doctor gives me, no, they say nothing's wrong. They say it's in my head. That's the craziest one. They go, they say it's in my head.

[Richard Jacobs]

Head.

[Dane Johnson]

They can't find any issues, but I can't go to the bathroom. I had this guy I was working with, he was a surfer in Huntington beach, and he came to me and he goes, dude, I have been seeing people for four or five years. This is like seven years ago, right? I've been seeing people four or five. Everyone tells me there's nothing wrong with me. My blood works normal, my stool analysis is normal, my organic acid is normal. And I am so anxious and I can't go. I can't stop going to the bathroom. They put him on antidepressants and he was just on him. Not because of his mind, but because it was the only thing that helped him stop. Stop pooping. He was going eight times a day. He could not stop it because sometimes there's microbiome issues going on. But your body doesn't cause an inflammatory response, so they don't see it in the labs or visually in the colonoscopy.

[Richard Jacobs]

I've seen a number of people that usually young people, like 20s, 30s, that have to have like THC in order to be able to eat. Have you ever run across that? It just comes to mind because, number one, I have seen some of them, they can't. Kids.

[Dane Johnson]

I've seen that more in kids who are like, not gaining weight and they're not hungry because their gut doesn't feel right. But yeah, I've seen a bit of that. And I like, sometimes the inflammatory response doesn't manifest in a way where the doctor's diagnosed. And so then you walk around undiagnosed, but it's the same problem. You've got to fix the liver, you've got to fix the microbiome, enhance the digestion. You got to move the. You've got to move the lymphatic system and you've got to help the body start pumping those good, you know that good serotonin, that dopamine. You got to get sunlight, you got to get earthing. When in doubt, just go back, back to the nature. Like, don't try to always over analyze the wave, just learn to ride it like the body's a wave. You like, I don't heal you. The divine body heals itself. I just kind of help ignite the divinity. Does that make sense?

[Richard Jacobs]

Right, Right.

[Dane Johnson]

So it's like if you're lost and un overwhelmed with it, it's like, okay, clean up the diet, get your body moving. Maybe consider things like castor oil pack, earthing sunlight, make sure you're getting enough sleep, take lots of magnesium, electrolytes. You know, look at maybe taking glycine and maybe a little bit of nac. Your body create glutathione. Or maybe you just need glutathione because your genetic, you're not, you know, your glucuronid pathway is not open. You just can't get rid of toxins. That's a huge problem for why people are chronically sick. It's like a problem of Sears chronic inflammatory response syndrome is you just cannot handle any toxins. You're always acutely inflamed, even if you're not eating anything. So, I mean, I know a lot of people are probably getting major aha moments that just like go with what the body needs to thrive. When in doubt, clean eating. Be specific. When you, when you eat, try to get your sleep right, get the lymphatic systems moving. A keynote on that. If you're not moving, the lymph doesn't move.

[Richard Jacobs]

Move.

[Dane Johnson]

I don't need you to run marathons, go for walks, do some rebounding, up and down, jump rope, you know, get in a sauna. If your body can handle it and you're ready and you're not, you know, anemic and, you know, 50 pounds underweight like I was. Make sure you're doing things that are safe. Speak with your doctor and just start going towards that. Like that one guy. I've worked them on probiotics, I put them on some very specific anti pathogens and binders. I worked on his lymphatic system, castor oil packs and then did, and I, and I put on some, I put them on a product called dopaboo that help give his body the ingredients to increase his natural dopamine. I mean, and he just started thriving for the first time in 10 years. It's like, I don't always need to say this is the problem to start listening to the symptoms or for you to start listening to the symptoms and respond on just how do you help the body thrive? And it's like the gut digestion drainage pathways, the five drainage pathways are the kidney, the liver, the lymphatic system, the ability to poop, and the ability to sweat. So if you're like, I hear this in a lot of young women. Oh, I never sweat. I can't sweat. Well, then you can't sweat.

[Richard Jacobs]

Detox chance sweat.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I'll be. I bet there some people right now listening, going, yep, that's me. And they're laughing because I hear it all the time. It's like, oh, I never sweat. I go to the gym, I hardly sweat. I get in a sauna for 10 minutes. I barely sweat. If you're someone who sweats a lot. Good. Good.

[Richard Jacobs]

Weird.

Yeah.

[Dane Johnson]

So you got to work that out. Or it could be an underlying infection. You're eating right. But the five infections I commonly look at is parasites, which are the hardest to find. And lab tests are crap for parasites, by the way. Viruses. And viruses are hard to find because conventional labs suck at finding Epstein Barr inside Omega virus. You need Le Spot technology. Also checking the IgA antibody. So viruses, parasites, candidiasis. So candida overgrowth. It could be systemic, it could be in the gut. A stool analysis is really good to check. I like the Gut Zoomer by Vibrant America. And then you could also check bacteria. Bacteria is almost always the problem. Dysbiosis is bacteria overgrowth. So the thing with bacteria, it's. It's not that it's bad, it's that it's overgrown. But you also have bad bacteria like E. Coli or C. Diff or campylobid factor. And then it's number. And then sometimes it could be like Lyme disease as a core problem, or it could be vaccine injury could be a core problem. So you got to look at some of those root issues. But those pathogens are commonly mold. Mold's a big one because you could be eating perfect to impair side cleanses. But if you're living in statue Boatry's black mold or aspergillus nochrotoxin A and you don't have the genetic ability to properly detox those mycotoxins, you're going to be sick no matter what you're doing. So you gotta. And that's where functional medicine is getting really cool, is you need people who are experts in this issue specifically. The gut is like the best, where you get the biggest bang for your buck. Like when you focus on the gut and someone really knows what they're doing with the gut. You want to look at those toxins, detox pathways, pathogens, epigenetics, you know, you don't need to throw $5,000 of lab work at it. In the beginning, if someone knows what they're doing, you can start making those tweaks that are really safe. Like, the answer could be we're gonna go rebound and get an Epsom salt bath for 20 minutes three times a week. Get in the sun for 20 minutes while you're earthing, you know, cut out all this crap eating you've been doing and go to bed on time and take 600mg milligrams of magnesium glycinate with 3 grams of glycine, and all of a sudden you're 40. Symptom relief. And you did nothing of risk. Like, it was all.

[Richard Jacobs]

What about, like, diet soda? You spoke about alcohol, but diet soda, I would think is. Is very perfect of soda.

[Dane Johnson]

Go back to the grandfather idea, right? When in doubt, just go back to grandpa.

[Richard Jacobs]

Like, you know it's cocaine in your coke.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, well, the Coca Cola and things like that. Their own grandpa aspartame and all this other stuff. Man, you don't want to be messing with that. Like, if you were sick and trying to get. Get better, any decision you're going to make, this is what really served me. Because I was housebound for a year, suffering, and I didn't have any of this, guys. Like, it was just a different world in 2009, 10, 11. And my. The way I did it is I looked at it. I was so convicted to heal. I had this rule. I said, anything I'm going to think about doing, could it potentially hurt me? Yes. Just potentially? Yes. Okay. What is the measurement of how it would help me heal? Not like diet soda, like none. So it could hurt me and it can't really help. Help me heal. Nope. Done. It's obvious.

[Richard Jacobs]

Why.

[Dane Johnson]

Why would I put that variable in my life now when you are suffering and you've almost died, you get that extreme. But that's a good. If you're looking for a spectrum, just ask yourself, can it potentially hurt me? And how much could it potentially help me? So if I do a parasite cleanse, could it potentially hurt me? Yes. But could potentially change my life and give me a remission? Yes. So you're like, okay, that may be later in advance once I'm a double black belt ninja at this stuff, you know, so you have to weigh the option. So I ask you the same question. Like, could going outside earth and going bed at time and taking magnesium and getting rid the junk, like focusing on what you're not eating, can it hurt you?

[Richard Jacobs]

No, no. I mean, if you're doing those right things, then no.

[Dane Johnson]

Could it potentially change your life? Yes. It's like that's what you implement. You, you start question.

[Richard Jacobs]

As long as someone follows, you know, sensible protocols like these. Have you ever had anyone you couldn't help?

[Dane Johnson]

I've had. Everyone's got a few skeletons. I've had a few people I've worked with probably one on one, maybe 2,000 people over the years. I mean, 20,000 hours, hours of work. Okay? Not like you go through my program and take and read my videos and watch these five supplements. No, like real work, real hard work. Four months minimum. Each person. I've been doing this a long, long time. I can give you an example of this girl. She, you know, I, I work. Actually I worked for her parents. Her mother was a school teacher. I just felt so compelled. She was 15 years old and I'd worked for them for free for like four months, five months. And we did get better, but not as much as I hoped. And that was a really, really tough. Her body would freak. She couldn't, she was so clogged. She couldn't handle a half a cap of like berberine or sweet wormwood. Like, I could not. She couldn't handle anything. It was nuts. We did get her a little bit better, but we ended up having to use a biologic along with natural medicine. But most people, I mean, out of thousands, most people, it's just a matter of time. Like, you just. There's certain variables that increase. I'll tell you the variables that's going to increase your results with anyone you work with. The plan has to be customized. It can't be generic. If you're going to sign up for someone's program, they're going to give you a piece of paper that says, everyone do this and everyone take these supplements. You, you've got like a 30% chance of success, give or take. And if it needs to be customized, number two, if you're working with someone and you only meet them once a month or once a two months, your chance of success, 30%. You have to be able to move on the chessboard. So you need, so the way you get results. I don't care if you're with Mark Hyman, Superman, it don't matter, okay? If you are not looking at your plan and understanding the moving variables and controlling them, every 14 days to 20 days, your chance of success dramatically decreases with anyone you're working with. Anyone. Unless they're got like the super hack. We're like, we're going to do HBOT with peptides and this fast. And everyone, you know, like, you can try to put together like the ultimate stack that might work better than that for certain people, but they have a big budget and you better have good liability insurance. So, you know, I would say it like, on 14 to 17 days, I'm going to control the burials. Here's an example. What specific stream of probiotic are we using? Because a lot of people with mast cell activation or sibo or histamine reactions can't handle kefir or yogurts or sauerkraut or lactobacillus strains. So I'm going to start with an independent.

[Richard Jacobs]

What do you mean you can't heal? They can't handle it. They can't handle what happens.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, you get a histamine response, so you get a Herxheimer reaction. So basically it causes a war in your body. And then your, your poor drainage pathways, you feel like crap. It's like you get flu, like symptoms, diarrhea, headaches. You feel, feel like you're flaring. You feel like you're getting worse. So that's a lot of times, like, if I give you Rick, if I'm like, okay, we know you have dysbiosis, we know you have sibo. And I give you a robust wild oil of oregano with a 2 to 1 ratio of olive oil to that specific species. That's broad spectrum. And I know kills all that stuff that might be like dropping a grenade in your gut. And you go, you call me the next day and you go, dane, I feel like trash. And that's why a lot of chronically sick people, they are scared to even go see their doctor or naturopath because they know intuitively that if they try this stuff, there's a good chance they're going to feel, feel worse. And no one understand, understands even the natural path. So it's like you have to know how. You have to work with the specialists of chronic disease. You have to understand how the gut works. And so if you. You have to control the variables. So an example is I'm going to start you with a single strain probiotic at low dose, confirm it works. I'm going to put you on certain things. Maybe a little curcumin, maybe a little bit of a binder, maybe in the beginning. I'm probably not going to start you on liver support because there's a chance you're going to freak. I need to get proof of concept, concept before I start working on your drainage. I'M going to give you foods that you feel safe with. So we're going to talk. It's like, what list of foods do you feel good with? You feel good with meat? You feel good with any of these veggies? Are you a vegan or vegetarian? You want to focus on grains or beans? What's the risk versus reward? So it's like customized. You see what I'm saying? So I'm going to have you run that play for 14 days. I'm gonna, then I'm gonna meet you about 14 to 17 days later and you're gonna show me your notes. So you're not gonna be able to die for the rest of your life. It's like, show me your notes, show me what happened. Let's just talk how to go. And then I'm gonna also, I'm holding you accountable of a success tracker. So I'm keeping track of all your goals, all your symptoms, what's happening and why. And then as I'm looking at it, I'm saying, okay, that's probably the colon, that's probably the liver. That might be epigenetics, that might be just stress. That's the food fear. This is where we are with the medications. And so then I'm tracking those variables and then I'm tracking your daily blueprint variables. So what, what is your nutrition, what's your supplements, what's your herbs? Are you doing any biohacking, stacking like peptides, ap, hbot, sauna, firefly, ozone? Where are you at at your skill level? Sometimes I'm working with someone who's like really skilled and I can play in that game. Great. I work with very advanced people who've been doing this for 20 years. And then basic, basic, basic. I got a 10 year old or a 20 year old or 30 year old, I'm brand new to this. I'm completely overwhelmed. And so I'm kind of doing that. Our team, we're doing that for you. And so then you track it. Because if you just meet with someone who's genius and you don't meet for another month, man, something's not going to work. You're not going to know how to scale it and you're going to fall off and you're going to think nothing works for you and you're going to get discouraged. And it's really hard to be consistent with something for three or four weeks without someone validating you're doing it right, Explaining what you're experiencing and moving the variables. Like I want to move from Half a cap to 2 caps of this. I'm going to take that out. I want to add this in at night. I want you to add more calories. You're not gaining enough weight, you're not getting enough fat. Let's add in more prebiotic soluble fibers because you're getting a little constipated. So if you're not to get results, you has to be customized and you have to watch the variables and you have to track them and you need to be going over those variables. With severe cases, I will meet. This is more. I do like a coner thing sometimes. Very limited people. I'll meet them every week, once a week, every seven days. We tweak their plan. Like I've got one woman, I've got her about 75% symptom free in about three months. She's been sick for 20 years. And it's not because I'm a genius. It's because it's like Rick, you ever watch Indiana Jones where he's trying to get the golden staff and he has like a million booby traps all around him?

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah.

[Dane Johnson]

This success is knowing exactly what stone to step on without getting a dart in the neck. And there's like 50 stones everywhere. And that's what everyone feels like. You have to know how to move. That's low risk, high reward. So the biggest thing I did with her is I said like, we're not going to touch the liver, we're not going to go on this binder. You're not ready for it. We're not going to go after pathogens. You're going to get killed if you do that. Because she's so sensitive. So I just started on probiotics. Single strain, powder form isolated, slowly worked them up. Started with bifidobacterium, which is low histamine and goes to the colon and won't mess with the sibo I know she has. And then I worked on mitochondrial energy. So I'm like, what vitamins can I get into your cell? And how do I get hydration and minerals that help your cells move? Toxins that I don't. That I know is low risk, high reward. Right. And then a little bit of L carnitine and D ribose. Because she had such a bad chronic fatigue, I needed to get her energy up a little bit. So without caffeine because she can't handle it. Right. So it's like I'm working on mitochondria, energy, I'm working on. I'm working on electrolytes, minerals, vitamins vitamins, a little sea salt. Like we put a pinch of salt right under her tongue with some water to kind of get her brain working. She also had pots, plus IBD and plus, you know, a few other things. Muscle activation, like 5, 6, diagnosis, past background of cancer, all that. And so, and then it's like once I can get certain things moving, now I can get something else. So then we added in just walks because she was, she was like basically bedridden. So if we could just get her body moving, that was going to do wonders for her lymphatic system.

[Richard Jacobs]

So.

[Dane Johnson]

And then, you know, also can, can we get that natural sunlight? Because sunlight is one of the best ways to boost your immune system and get natural vitamin D because some of us genetically can't even convert the vitamin D supplement. And it's a fat soluble.

[Richard Jacobs]

So I was gonna ask you. Yeah. About the pathways and stuff.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, dude.

[Richard Jacobs]

How important are those?

[Dane Johnson]

That's why you can't do it with everybody. It's a fat soluble vitamin A, D, K, E. You need vitamin A, you need vitamin D, K and magnesium to convert to 25. Oh, and if you can't break that down and absorb it properly because you got a poor liver. Liver makes the bile that breaks the. On the fat. Fat doesn't break down in the stomach acid. Okay. Protein and carbohydrates break down in the stomach acid. The fat breaks down in the duatum from the bile, from the liver. But everyone who's sick has a stagnant bile production because the liver's backed up. So that's why they're not. Their hormones are jacked and they can't even poop because you need bile to be able to move. Move bowel movements. So through the small intestine. It's. Dude, it's a vicious cycle. So it's like the wave again. It's like a divine thing that works. And I'm just looking at, I kind of understand. I try to give it what it needs to do what it divine finally does. And I just try to make sure I don't blow it up.

[Richard Jacobs]

What percentage of people are able to help themselves? I mean, you're talking about real high level, intensely supervised work.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, we're going down.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah, yeah. I'm saying for the average person.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah.

[Richard Jacobs]

I don't know what percentage of the population has like, you know, issues that are so severe. Unless they have expertise riding along right with them, you know, every week, they're not going to make progress versus, like they can substantially help themselves.

[Dane Johnson]

Well, that's the thing. Because the waves usually working for everyday people because they're not chronically sick. Let's say 1% of the population is chronically sick. What should the 99 do? The 99 should just empower their wave. Like that's why I said focus on what you're not doing more so than what you are doing because your wave's still doing okay, right? Like be careful with alcohol. It's trash. It's trash. You should probably just give it up. If you've been thinking about it, give it up. It ain't helping you. It ain't helping with your goals and help with your money. They help with your business, ain't with your marriage and help with your kids. It helped with your fitness, your six pack and help them with the 6am surf session. It ain't helping. Okay, number two do is just crappy processed food and trash. You know, fast food. It ain't helping. It's just putting you at risk that you might have to deal with all the stuff we just talked about. You don't want to deal with it. So just stop spending money on things that hurt you. Stop smoking, you know, things with chemicals in them. You know, I think another one is, is get a clean source of water. Stop drinking water out of plastic water bottles. You're just poisoning yourself. Get real water. Get a stainless steel water bottle. Car it around if you need to, but get real water. Watch. Stop paying $8 for these pH balanced clean water that's been sitting in plastic in a heated area for months, God knows how long in a warehouse that's not clean water anymore. Get a clean water source. Get a clean house. You know, put a HEPA filter in your house. Make sure your house is clean. Just eat real food. Like a lot of people I think are getting more privy to this. Eat real food. Do you need to take a million supplements and all? No. Build your plan. So that's why I also say when we talk about customization, if someone's saying, Dan, I don't need all that. I just want things that are going to help keep me healthy. Healthy thing. Keep me, you know, my sex drive up and keep me looking young and keep my energy up. What I would look at as a stack is I would say, okay, get some fermented foods like go buy a sauerkraut. Have some sauerkraut when you have meat. Stop snacking. Eat three, three meals a day and try to eat more of real food. Either organic restaurants or home cooked meals. Try to go to bed earlier. Try to get eight hours. Stop going to bed at 2am Stop watching. Put a TV in your room, get the TV out of your room. Get to bed, get real deep REM sleep. Stop drinking cold water with ice. Drink teas, hot water, drink more water when you're not e. Don't dilute your meals with a bunch of water or soda. Get rid of high fructose corn syrup. Glyphosate are probably some of the two biggest processed sugar. Another one, look, just spend an extra dollar and get cleaner stuff. So save money on stuff that's just trash and put it towards cleaner stuff. Like good companies that have really tasty stuff. Like just ingredients is really clean and really tasty and they make all sorts of fun little bone broths and strawberry this and chocolate that. And I love them. They make, they use only organic real sweeteners. They don't use fake toxic sweeteners to sweeteners their products. That's a really good company or science for health. This is a good one. Or you know I'd say a next one is like make sure you're getting like just natural fats. Avocado, extra virgin olive oil. Take a shot of extra virgin olive oil every day. Use it raw. Cook with ghee. Change, change up. You know what you like. The seasonings like salt and lemon is like kind of all you need. Or use tamari sauce or gluten free soy sauce. It tastes the same. Be careful. I'd be careful of shellfish, sushi and pork. Like I'd really. If you don't need it, cut out pork. It's full of parasites. It's a toxic animal. You don't need it. Don't pay for the lobster. It's probably trash, probably full of DHT in the ocean. Try to get wild caught. Salmon's probably the best thing you can get. And just be careful of shellfish, especially raw. And if you, you know, you just got to be. No because these things, if you have poor digestion you could give yourself some of these problems. And if you do all this stuff and you just move your body, whether you like yoga or you like lifting weights or you just want to go out and walk or you know, whatever you do, just move and, and then yeah, really sleep and I think you're already taking out. You're helping the, the wave from the metaphor we've talked about today, just work better. And it's not that hard. So don't get overwhelmed by all the science and the craziness unless you're really sick. But if you Start acting now with these simple things. You might save yourself hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions of dollars. And you might say in years of.

[Richard Jacobs]

Years of misery.

[Dane Johnson]

Years of misery, dude. Like my, my naturopath professor used to say people get rich, they sacrifice their health to get rich and then they sacrifice the riches to get healthy. And he was spot on. It's like, it's like yeah, I'm worth 10 million and I'm 50 years old now but I'm now like got all these health problems and, and I need to spend, you know, 100 grand a year to hire all these people to try to save me. It's you know, act now and I promise you it's not that hard. And most people around you are kind of thinking the same thing. So once we're out, once our society changes, it's no longer hard. Like the reason we can brush our teeth twice a day is because society does it. The reason we can't get right because it's society. Yeah.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah. So what are some. You gave a lot of resources on this call. Already there are listeners that are like, you know, where do they start? Where do they start?

[Dane Johnson]

Okay, we said rule number one just make right now it's what do you do? Just say dane, I'm just going to do no this for 30 days. Okay. Like try, try to only eat. Here's a few. One, I love only eat when you're actually eating three meals a day. Stop snacking. It's not helping. It's not helping. You're like oh it's a beef stick. Okay, cool, whatever. But still, right? Just try that. Two, stop drinking out of plastic water bottles. Drink real water and get a clean source of water. Okay. Number three, try to go dry. No alcohol and you know, no crappy fast food. Let's say that no fried food or fast food for 30 days. Next. Don't. If you've got a TV in your bedroom, unplug it, take it out. Make your bedroom a place you sleep. Sleep, make love and talk. That's it. Or meditate, read a book. That's it. Maybe you got your little phone in there. That's you know, that's okay. I still have the phone in there. Right? You can do a little bit of EMF and blue light. Next is try to throw in things that can only help and can't hurt like prayer, meditation, minerals, electrolytes. Like get an electrolyte if you're a low energy. Get some electrolytes in like the just ingredients. Fruit punch or lemonade's A great one. We need something super clean. Body bio elite. Really, really good. Next is when you cook meals man. Cook the best stuff. Like if you save money on alcohol, throw it into like a really good grass fed beef. Maybe get that beef with liver we talked about. You know, spend a little money and get some sprouted nuts. Get the better, you know, organic berries that you know aren't filled with pesticides and herbicides. Clean them with distilled water and baking soda. Just start making swaps. Like think of it like a trade, you know, like, you know how I always say create wealth in your health. Like I think a lot of people can understand the concepts now of like how to build wealth. Like I'm going to get rid of this crappy spending that's that's not building my wealth and I'm going to put it into my 401k or I'm going to put it into bitcoin or I'm going to put it into like a house that's got a low interest rate. Like we kind of get the ability of compound effect, trade it like get rid of dirty dirty money spend that hurts your health and start in putting it in things that compound your ability to make money more money, to be more naturally energetic, to look younger, to feel better. Like attach your why to what you're doing. So create wealth in your health and just start making some subs. It could be like hey I love diet soda. Change the olipop. Hey I love alcohol. Okay, if you can't get rid of the alcohol, do dry farms wine or organic tequila or gluten free vodka only with like soda and a splash of OJ or splash of cranberry. Like you're just drastically reducing the amount of sugar and chemicals you getting in like all those sweetened drinks, you know, little things like that or you know just put a whole house water filter tration you own your house, go to spring well spring well and get a whole house ro water system and it and your bath water, your sink water, your shower water, all of it will be, will be cleaned like the hose water will be cleaned. You know what I'm saying? It's like a thousand.

[Richard Jacobs]

Most people don't do that.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, yeah dude, you just. The insulation's like another thousand because you need to get copper pipe. You need to open up your water line and have a guy come install it. But it then it's done. Like I don't shower in chlorine anymore. You know what I'm saying? So there's all these swaps you can just do. And you create wealth in your health. Like, what good is it to have all this money and work so hard if you don't feel good in your body? And who cares if you do it? 40 or 50 if you feel freaking great. Like, who cares? I'm getting old. No, you're getting old because you're so sick. I'm healthy. You know, if I'm healthy at 60 and I live to 90, I'm younger than the guy. Guy who's 40 and 6, only going to live to 55 before he has a heart attack. You get it? He's got 15. He's got 30.

[Richard Jacobs]

I've heard recently the average health span is 63, which is not. Not old at all.

[Dane Johnson]

No bueno.

[Richard Jacobs]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Dane Johnson]

I mean, 63, dude. I know. You know, people are just getting into it, man. They're just blowing up their careers and getting into that next life. At 63, you're not even retired yet. My dad's 69 years old. He still works.

[Richard Jacobs]

Oh, that's great. It's great, right? So we're just about out of time. But, you know, you gave you. You really giving a luck market info in the podcast. I appreciate it. Yeah. Again, let's just reiterate where people can get, you know, a toehold and get started and start following your information and then, you know, we'll close out.

[Dane Johnson]

Yeah, totally. I hope I gave you guys some great to dos and ahas. I mean, podcast is all about having some takeaways. That's what I love in a podcast. Hope you guys got some. If you guys need help, here's the deal with, with me and my team, we specialize in ibd. If you've got severe gut issues and you're undiagnosed for ibs, we'll. We'll talk with you. Whatever's integrity, we just need to make sure we can actually help you out if we're going to work with you. But we offer a free IBD session, free session to deep dive in your case. So your experiences, conventional medicine, natural medicine, background, what worked, food, fear, what didn't. Just hold space to get results, you got to have someone hold space for you. And it's free. No hassle, no gimmicks. So you can check us out, Crohn's Colitis lifestyle.com or Instagram Crohn's Cly lifestyle or, you know, website, YouTube. You can find us and, you know, book a call if you feel like you want to talk and hear more about how we can help and talk about your case and, and yeah, just, you know, keep the hope. Realize that being healthy is the number one thing for everything else you want in your life. Great marriage, great health, great wealth, great. Great mental, great sleep. You know, not. Not as scared to get older. It's. It's all connected. You know what you are the answer be the CEO of your health. It starts right now. It might not be easy, but it's doable and it's the most valuable thing on the planet.

[Richard Jacobs]

Excellent. Thank you so much for coming on this podcast. I really appreciate it.

[Dane Johnson]

Thanks, brother.

[Richard Jacobs]

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