Counterspy: The Case of the Loganberry Point Spy (A0064)

Summary

The Great Detectives of Old Time Radio — Counterspy: The Case of the Loganberry Point Spy (A0064) Host: Adam Graham
Air Date: February 21, 2026 (original episode: September 14, 1942)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Counterspy showcases a tense wartime drama set on the remote Maine coastline. The story revolves around a suspected German spy’s arrival at Loganberry Point, his detection by a sharp-witted local woman, and the ensuing efforts of government agents and civilian fishermen to thwart a Nazi plot. Host Adam Graham provides commentary, unpacking both the historical plausibility and narrative elements of the broadcast.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Plot Breakdown: The Loganberry Point Spy

• Opening Setup ([02:02])

  • The show is introduced with a classic OTR style, setting the scene with Liza Gott, a solitary resident of Loganberry Point, Maine, whose husband was lost at sea 41 years ago.
  • Liza finds a mysterious man (Frank Berkman) on her porch, who claims to be a shipwreck survivor. She lets him in, but her suspicion grows.

• The Spy Unraveled ([04:45–10:30])

  • Liza cleverly deduces inconsistencies in Berkman’s story, referencing her intimate local knowledge:
    Liza Gott: “Ain't nobody rowing from the bell buoy at the reef to this shore on an ebb tide in one hour. He's a pervericator.” ([08:36])
  • She calls the counterspy headquarters, declaring:
    Liza Gott: “I've caught me a spy.” ([08:47])
  • Agent Harding is dispatched to Loganberry Point.

• Harding’s Investigation ([11:28–15:30])

  • Harding identifies Berkman as Dr. Slessing, a German agent.
  • Harding discusses the Gestapo’s likely plans: Slessing is expected to gather data on new transport planes and be extracted by submarine.

• Mobilizing the Town ([16:50–21:30])

  • Harding gathers the townsfolk in church, calling for volunteers to help trap the submarine.
  • All the local men, from teenagers to octogenarians, stand to help:
    Harding: “This is a sight I wish every American could see. Some of you are over 80. Some in your teens. Not a man in this church who isn't standing.” ([18:22])

• Fishermen vs. U-Boat ([21:32–28:52])

  • A group of lobstermen go out in their boats in a foggy, dangerous night, attempting to intercept and outwit the German sub.
  • Captain Stinson is captured and taken aboard the sub. In a memorable act of defiance, he sabotages the sub’s controls with an axe, despite being mortally wounded:
    Captain Stinson: “The sea is clean. It’s decent. Not foul like the likes of you. Before you’re through, you and this rotten hulk will be at the bottom of the sea.” ([23:59])

• The Final Assault ([28:53–31:30])

  • As the submarine becomes disabled due to Stinson’s sabotage, the townspeople launch a coordinated attack.
  • The destroyer arrives, and the Germans surrender.

• Epilogue/Eulogy for Captain Stinson ([31:23])

  • The townsfolk mourn Captain Stinson, honoring his bravery:
    Eulogy: “If he had had a thousand lives, he would have chosen no other way to have given them all...” ([31:34])

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Host Adam Graham’s Commentary & Listener Feedback

Analysis & Historical Context ([31:56–36:00])

• Plausibility of the Plot

  • Graham finds the plot grounded for wartime fiction, reflecting real fears and plausible enemy actions.
  • He notes the American coastline was less penetrable due to its unique local communities and knowledge gaps for foreign infiltrators.
  • The episode’s depiction of whole towns mobilizing is likely fanciful but inspired by stories of British civilian valor, e.g., Dunkirk.

• Atmosphere and Patriotism

  • Graham comments on the cathartic fantasy and patriotic spirit of average Americans fighting back against the Nazi threat.
  • Mention is made of accurate period details, like bringing horses out of retirement due to gas rationing.

• Memorable Quote

  • Graham enjoys Liza’s line:
    Adam Graham: “I really did laugh out loud at that line. ‘I caught me a spy.’” ([31:56])

Meta Observations and Listener Mail ([36:01–42:22])

• Counterspy’s Secrecy
  • A listener highlights the inconsistency of a “secret” organization being so widely known that cab drivers can find its HQ. Graham compares this to the CIA’s public presence, handling the observation with humor—referencing “Get Smart.”
• Listener Comments
  • Discussion of recent shows and other mysterious women characters.
• Patreon Support Acknowledgment
  • Graham thanks Rob, a supporter since May 2024.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Liza Identifies the Spy:
  “I've caught me a spy.” — Liza Gott ([08:47])

• Harding Addresses the Town:
  “Some of you are over 80. Some in your teens. Not a man in this church who isn't standing.” — Harding ([18:22])

• Captain Stinson’s Defiance:
  “Go ahead. You give me good. Keep on shooting... minutes before you can kill me. ... The sea is clean. Not foul like the likes of you.” — Captain Stinson ([23:59])

• Eulogy for Stinson:
  “If he had had a thousand lives, he would have chosen no other way to have given them all.” ([31:34])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:02] — Start of Counterspy episode: Liza discovers the stranger
• [08:47] — Liza calls Washington, claims she’s “caught a spy”
• [11:28] — Harding confronts the spy, learns he’s Dr. Slessing
• [16:50] — Harding addresses Loganberry Point at church
• [21:32] — Submarine sequence: U-boat captures Captain Stinson
• [28:53] — Fishermen attack the sub, assisted by U.S. destroyer
• [31:23] — Eulogy and episode close
• [31:56] — Adam Graham’s post-show commentary
• [36:01] — Listener mail and wrap-up

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Tone and Originality

The episode blends tension, patriotism, and small-town heroism with a dash of good-natured skepticism, both in the OTR script and Adam Graham’s modern commentary. Liza Gott’s homespun wisdom and stubborn vigilance are focal points, and the episode ends with moving pride in American community spirit.

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For OTR mystery fans and newcomers alike, this episode is a thrilling, atmospheric, and character-rich foray into World War II-era spy drama, expertly unpacked with historical insight and humor by Adam Graham.

Transcript

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[B]

Welcome to the great adventurers of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're going to bring you this week's episode of Counterspot. But first, I do want to encourage you. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software and today's programs brought to you in part by the financial support of our listeners. You can support the show on a one time basis. Support.greatdetives.net and become one of our ongoing Patreon supporters for as little as $2 per month. Just go over to patreon.greatdetives.net but now, from September 14, 1942, here is the case of the Loganberry Point Spy.

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Harding counterspy calling Washington. Harding counterspy calling Washington. The blue network presents phillips h. Lord's counter spy. A counter spy is a United States undercover agent whose duty it is to smash the professional enemy spies operating in our mid. Imagine ace counter spy of them all as David Harding. Those are the footsteps of Liza Gott as she walks along the narrow rocky path which runs on top of a high cliff looking out over the sea on the northern coast of Maine. 42 years ago Liza got married. Mark got her husband sailed away and was drowned. For 41 years, Liza got has kept a little kerosene lantern lit on her front porch. So just in case Mark should return, he'd see the lighted lantern from the sea and know she was waiting. Where where Liza got Is nearing her little house on the top of the cliff where she stays alone. Liza sees something, something on her front porch. She can see it with the light of the lantern. That's funny. I didn't leave nothing on the front porch. It looks like a man. It is a man. What are you doing on my front porch? Oh, wake up, I says. What you doing lying on my front porch? Oh, I was just lying here. I'm exhausted since I fell asleep. You're a stranger. Yes, I've had a narrow escape. I landed here in a lifeboat, saw your lantern lit, so I came up here. When I found nobody was in, I was too tired to go anywhere else. What happened to you? I was in a small Norwegian lumber schooner. There were five of us just off the horseshoe reefs. We were torpedoed. I got the lifeboat over alone. The others were killed in the blast. I was way after. I'd have been killed too. One of those terrible German or Japanese submarines. Yes, it happened yesterday morning. I've been rowing for land ever since. Then I heard a bell boy, and about an hour later I landed on the beach down there. Hmm. You've had a terrible time, ain't ya? Could you give me a little food? Let me stay here tonight. Come in. You've got to be took care of. Thank you. I'll have to light up a light. Shall I bring in the lantern? No, sir. That lantern stays there lit under all conditions. And it ain't never going out nor being took in so long as I'm conscious. There, now you can see. I'm sorry to trouble you. Tain't no trouble at all. May I inquire your name? Liza Goth. And it's got two T's and no E before the L. Liza. Naughty Liza. What's your name? Berkman. Frank Berkman. You look pretty tuckered here. Now just lie down here on this sofa and make yourself comfortable. I have been through a good deal. Well, now you stretch right out. Put your head up here and your feet down there. Now, are you quite sure you're comfortable? Oh, I never was more comfortable in my life. Well, that's good. There. Now you can rest in peace. Who do you want? Fanny? This is life. Get me quick as you can. The counterspy headquarters in Washington and I want to speak to the head of it. No, young stripling. You go on, daffy. Do as I tell you. Fanny, get me the head of the counter spies. Well, I still think you're daffy, but I'll ring him. Danny, ain't you got Washington yet? Yeah, we got Congress by headquarters, but they're getting ahead of it. I said it was a calamity. Hello. Mrs. Harding? Speaking. This is Liza Gott, a Loganberry Point, Maine. I've caught me a spy. Pardon me? You say that again. I'm Liza Gott, a Loganberry Point, Maine, and I've caught me a spy. Naturally, I'm a little dumbfounded. Where is he? Lying on the sofa over there. If he hears you, why doesn't he get up? Why? You ain't see the condition he's in. He unconscious? Very. How do you know he's a spy? Well, he told me about rowing alone and hearing our bell boy at the narrows, and then rowing an hour and landing on our beach. Well, I was born here and I know this coast, and there ain't nobody rowing from the bell buoy at the reef to this shore on an ebb tide in one hour. He's a pervericator. What is Loganbury Point near? Ain't near nothing. The nearest place is Stuyvesant. Well, that ain't near nothing either. Well, this is very unusual, but I'll leave by plane immediately. Get to Loganberry Point somehow. It's very nice of you, Captain Stinson, to drive me over Loganberry Point. The plane couldn't seem to find a nearer landing place. No. You don't suppose, do you, Captain, that the horse might trot a little? I'm not much worried about it. No, I mean, could you make her trot? No. I put her out to pasture when she was 22. She'd been out there eight years now. I had to call her back into harness when the gas ration went in. She has enough trouble to stand up, say nothing or trotting. I see. Do you happen to know Eliza Gott over at Loganbury Point, Captain Simpson?

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Yep.

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Is she quite a responsible person? Salt of the earth. I just thought I'd visit her. You mean room there? Yes. We don't know Eliza. What do you mean? You'll find out when you get there. All righty. And Mr. Hardin. Thank you, Mrs. Gunn. I took a plane as far as Symphon, then had to drive over. Where's this man you captured in the woodshed? Woodshed? That's where he is. No man but my past husband ever spent a night under this roof, and there ain't no man ever going to. Don't you want to put down your suitcase? Oh, no. No, thank you. I have some equipment in it. Oh, now you'll have to go the rest of the way yourself. It's right in there laid out on a cord of wood. I ain't going into no woodshed with no two men. All right, Mrs. Gott. I'll go. Look. Thought of the worse for wear. Come on. Come on. Go away. Go away. Come on. Sit up. Yeah, sit up. Oh. Oh, it's you. Are you the man she'd been waiting for? Yes. Then get me out of here. If I had to pretend I was unconscious or she'd have killed me. What do you mean? After she dragged me out here she'd come out every hour and if I was conscious she'd hit me over the head with that piece of stove wood. Knocked me out. Look at my head. I can't tell how much of you is your head and how much it bumps on top of your head. She'd hit me over the head just as cool and systematic as though she were a pile driver. Let me have your fingers. I want to take your print. No, you'd better or I might call Mrs. Gott back. That's better. I'll telephone your prince to Washington. We'll see who you really are. G6 counter spy headquarters Washington reporting to Harding. The fingerprints you just telephoned in are prints of Dr. Slessing who left San Francisco for Portugal 18 months ago. He was employed in the Stillwell plants while they were experimenting on cargo carrying air transports. It looks like Dr. Slesson is the one we have been expecting the Gestapo to try and smuggle into the country. Come in. I'm glad to know it's lesson that we've got. Quite obvious Lesson has been sent in to secure all possible information on the newly contemplated cargo carrying transport. This is a job the Gestapo probably allowed him about a week to complete and then they must have made arrangements to get him out. I'll check with you later tonight. Well, Berkman or Slushen, you just heard that conversation. We know who you are and why you're here. I guess there isn't any sense to my denying after all the plans had to bump into that woman. You're going to talk? No, I'll see. Well, as the people of Logan Mary Point would say there's more than one way to skin a cat. Martha. Martha. The church bell's ringing. Something's up. Put it on your hat. Martha. The one with the yellow ribbon. The church bell's ringing and it ain't go to meeting night. They must be calling us for SA. You have been called to the church here at the request of Mr. Harding concerning an important matter. I am proud to see every person of Loganbury Point present. Mr. Harding of Washington. Citizens of Loganbury Point. I know you're all aware of the circumstances of the German spy who landed and was apprehended here. Now our government knows why he was sent here. His mission would ordinarily take him a week. It is logical to expect he would be returned to Germany by the same route he arrived. This part of the coast was selected because it's very sparsely populated. The Gestapo evidently believed landing here would be very simple. By all logic, I expect arrangements have been made by the submarines to pick him up at this very place within the week. All of you men present are lobster fishermen or go out handlining and setting trot lines. You know the reefs and shoals like your own backyard. You can weave in and out of them on the blackest night and in the thickest fog. I'm calling for volunteers. Every night I want six fishermen pretend that their motors have gone back on them and remain out there in their launches. Now, it's a dangerous undertaking. There's a chance you might be captured and even tortured for information. How many of you men are willing to volunteer? This is a sight I wish every American could see. Some of you are over 80. Some in your teams. Not a man in this church who isn't standing. We are breaking border here, Capitan. Making the surface good mark on the al. Is very foggy and dark here, Capitaine. Be among the reefs. I suggest you come on, Dick. Come as a fort. Blinds the body. Motorne. Get a hold of it. Get the ropes around it. What's going on? What is that? Throw me that rope or I will shoot. When we surfaced, we came up right alongside that little fishing boat. There is a fisherman on it. Goot. Bring him aboard. We will question him about these waters. Take him down to the control room. He looks like an old man. Get him below. Ring him out. The capitaine wants him below decks. In the control room. Blackout ship. Come on, dear. Capitan. Charge batteries. Hans Vorband will soon be here. He smells fish all over him. Get down there, you fish. Well, what are you doing out on your boat late at night in the fog? I was doing me a mess of fishing. My cussed motor broke down. Oh, perhaps it didn't break down. Perhaps you're out here spying. You think they'd give me an important job like that? An old seaman over 70, see, with a wooden leg. Yeah, you're right. You are too old. What's your name? Stinson, Captain Egbert R. Stinson. Though you are a captain. Captain of fish, perhaps. Have you understand, sir, for 50 years I was captain of sailing ship and I never lost a one. If you are so good, where are we right now? In the devil of a frog, if that'll help you. You know what I mean. What's our location? How far off Horseshoe Reef. Abby, you're lying. Oh, no. It so you dare lie. I think we can take care of that, mate. A hot iron from the galley. But I will get Zariah. False, Nick. I never see a room with so many gadgets in it before. We didn't need all these warriors on a sailing ship. How far are we from the lighthouse? Lighthouse? Oh, in the sea as the crow flies. I think I'd say about a million miles. You talk. You will talk plenty. All right, I'll talk. You dirty vermin. The sea is clean. It's decent. Not a foul like the likes of you. Before you're through, you and this rotten hook will be at the bottom of the sea. But the fish won't trouble your carcasses. There isn't one foul enough to eat you. Curse you and all your fowl. Pew here and there. Sit on that fire axe. If they kill you. Go ahead. You give me good. Keep on shooting. Keep on minutes before you can kill me. Hold standing for it. Kill him. What is the matter? Shoot this crazy fool. Come near and I'll chop your head off. Look. Idiot. Crazy fool. Six bullets to stop him. Perhaps the chief engineer and electrician both. Cover central control at once. You have all, Herr Capitaine. Chief engineer, electrician reported to central control at once. Inspect repair damage. Rig for hand control. We'll see what that maniac has done to our automatic gear. The Capitaine. The master airstart is damaged. Impossible to say how long it will take to repair. Main periscope eyepiece also spoken. The depth indicator dial is completely wrecked. Her Capitaine, how long will it take to repair? Two or three hours. Here, Capitaine. The compressed airline is breached. Several hours to repair. Also main ballast hand valve jammed. All this damage with an ax. Hello. This is Elmer Greeley reporting from the lighthouse. Is that you, Mr. Harden? Yes. Submarines out here. Good, good. What are the facts? Well, Red Goggins just landed. His boat was lying about a quarter of a mile from old Captain Stinson's. He heard the sub come up and they evidently captured Captain Stinson. Took him on board. Go on, Red. Stuck around a few minutes and he heard a lot of commotion. Then men trying to get the submarine to go down it sounded like it couldn't, like something had happened. So Red pedaled his launch far enough away so they couldn't hear his motor and then got to the lighthouse here. Fine, fine. I've got all the information I need. Right now I want to hang up and then use this phone. Now, let's see. I turn this little crank here. Yes. Ring it long and loud. Sometimes Penny the operator lays down and takes n. Now, Mr. God, would you run down the path and ring the church bell? Emergency? Yes. If the bell rings late at night, they know that to bring what guns they have and rush for the wharf. Hello, operator, get me that number I wrote out for you yesterday. Oh, oh, yes, Mr. Harding. Yes, sir. Please hurry. Mrs. God, have that church bell rung. Oh, Revere said one if I land and two if I see. Naval control, this is Harding reporting. Relay to destroyer Smithville. Proceed at once 1 mile southeast of Sand Island. Light German submarine on surface immediately, sir. Relay to coast guard. Carry out plan three if possible and fog does not prevent otherwise. Plan two immediately, sir. Include a navy message that because of present emergency I'm going to try to get armed fishermen to submarine first. So if destroyer reaches submarine, watch for all clear signal which will indicate presence of Americans on board. Yes, sir. Those of you with the slowest motorboat start out first. Here's Sandy's gun. Some men take it. I want all of you men to understand that this is an extraordinary situation. You're all volunteering on your own accord. They all want to go. Now. The reason we're taking things in our own hands is because it's so foggy the planes can't spot the SAP and it's too foggy for the destroyer to come in among these reefs until daybreak. Indications are that something's happening to that submarine and it can't submerge. Would you say, captain Lawson, there was a very heavy swell out there near Horseshoe Ledge. Plenty heavy after a three day nor easter. They've got a rule out there to stand them on their heads. Well, that means the fire from the submarine will be very inaccurate. Now, when we sight her, you're all to fan out and make a circle around her. When you hear Captain Lawson blow his foghorn twice, head right for her. Start shooting and picking off the men manning the guns. With 30 launches coming at her in all directions and the fog and the heavy roll of the sea, she'll have her hands. We'll all border at the same time. From all sides of her death wall is starting out. All right, men, your launches Good luck, and remember your women Hope will be standing right here and await. That's her, Captain Lawson. A dark shape about two points to starboard. Damn scum. Should I blow the foghorn twice? No, twice as to attack her. Blow it once so they'll fan out and approach it from all sides. Now slow the motor. Give the others time to get around her. I didn't realize how patriotic I'd be till I started thinking of them Burman setting foot on our shore. I've never seen a thicker fog. She spotted us. Should I head for her? No. She's only shooting at the sound of our motor. Who are you? And the Hobby, too. We won't reply. Let him stew. Who are you? Get ready, captain Lawson, to blow your foghorn. Two blasts. I ain't had so much fun as largest cow fell in the. All right. Found the signal. Take the wheel, will you, Mr. Harding? Let me do a little gunning. Go ahead. For the minute we touch her. Jump aboard. Trying to land at Loganberry Point, will they? The whole German crew's on deck. Captain Mulligan's alongside. Get that screw by the AF gun there. They're pulling like 10 fin hyen. Just order. Let your own boats go so others can come alongside. Fence right in her, Hardy. I want to get out of here. Watch your house. Go. Come on, gentlemen. Come in. You understand, Commander, as we stand here in the control room of your submarine. That you and all your crew are prisoners of the United States. Chuarten, I am helpless. And there at your feet, an old sea captain with 12 bullet holes. Evidently kicked in the face. After he was dead. You were shoving at our controls with the fire axe. We had to shoot him. Shoot him six times before he fall. Captain Stinson was a neighbor of mine. What arm of the American forces have he been captured by the fishermen of Loganbury Point? Mr. Harding. Mr. Harding. United States destroyer approaching out of the Foster. How in Sam Hill did a destroyer get in among these shoals on a night like this? That's real navigating for you. What am I supposed to do now? You're expected to surrender your submarine and your crew and yourself to the greatest navy in all the world. And so we, his neighbors at Loganbury Point. Return the earthly remains of one who has lived among us for so many years. Captain Stinson. If he had had a thousand lives. He would have chosen no other way to have given them all. And so we of Loganbury Point, not mournfully but with pride in our hearts. Say goodbye to a great American who lived as an American and died as one. God Bless America. The Land of the Free. Featuring David Harding is presented at the same time every Monday evening. We suggest that you tell your friends that you make a weekly date to gather around the radio, this time as America based Counter Spy works to protect us from the spies of our enemies. Counter Spy is a Philips H. Lord production which has originated in New York. This is the blue network. This is station WJZ New York, which brings you fun and excitement as you listen to the Sing Bau program at 77 on your dial every Tuesday night at 8:30. Sam. Here's a quick podcast for all you true crime fans. The Case of the Missing Reese's it was me at the store with my mouth Motive. They're Reese's. What was I gonna do? Stop myself? Tune in next time to see if I do it again. Spoiler. I will. Wow, that had everything.

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Reese's Suspense Reese's welcome back. I really did laugh out loud at that line. I caught me a spy. But beyond that, this is an interesting episode on a number of levels. First of all, this has a plot that I think it does make a case for. This being something plausible that the Germans would try. Like some of the other wartime plots, the idea of sending in a spy to get the lay of the land, or I guess more appropriate, the sea and the operations of boats makes sense given the German campaign of sabotage also illustrated why they in real life didn't actually go through with a plot like this. The American coastline, particularly in somewhere like rural Maine, had a lot of details that they weren't privy to. Now, when we played cloak and dagger, we heard so many characters who had relatives in Europe had been there once or twice, and that could in some way play into the assignment. It's a case of the sort of immigration that happened in the US Being a strength when it came to fighting this war. Having people who were not that far removed from these countries. Germans did not have as much of that. True, they did have people who were here, but mostly people who'd been there before the war. This wasn't somewhere where there was a lot of operation like in New York City. So the risk of being caught or missing something because you didn't have enough local knowledge probably factored in the Germans not taking that sort of risk when it came to their operations, which were quite successful at this time. Now, what the residents did in Loganberry Point wasn't something that probably would have happened in real life in 1942. It was clearly inspired by real life events, certainly the stories of British civilians who became involved in the war effort and made their own personal strikes against the Nazis had made their way across the Atlantic as the determination and courage of the British people served as a rallying cry.

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And.

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And certainly the writers would probably have had things such as the civilians who bought in all sorts of crafts in order to rescue the British troops at Dunkirk. Now, obviously, the situation was not that dire, and in real life, the circumstance would have had them waiting on the navy. There's a certain cathartic fantasy that's at work in this episode. This isn't just sort of like clownishly unrealistic. There is a real point to this story. If you were along the Atlantic coast in 1942, the German U boats were a terror to shipping to the merchant seamen. And so many civilian ships were sunk by Nazi subs. They really terrorized those Atlantic shipping lanes. There was a series we did back on our World War II series, the war called Battle Stations, which did a really good job of talking about that. If you were listening to this in New England in 1942, there was this sense of average Americans taking on this hated monster who had taken the lives of so many people who had set sail just to do the work of merchant seamen. I kind of wondered about her suggestion that, you know, German or Japanese subs. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not the Japanese in the Atlantic Ocean. The one other thing that I found kind of interesting and seemed really plausible was when a horse was brought out of retirement, which seems like an interesting idea, particularly with the strict gas rationing. And I could see going back to using a horse if you just stopped and, you know, eight years previously, I think I read it as the captain being extra patriotic and going above and beyond rather than something that's strictly of necessity, because unless you were driving around a whole lot and there's no indication that he'd need to. You could have just kept the car and been using that. Just use your ration book. Now we turn to listener comments and feedback and we have some Comments on Shoshe La fame. Dr. Whodunit writes on Spotify. Woman of unusual beauty, darks hair and skin. Her hair is fake and her skin tone is makeup. And she suggests going into the water. She must be next level because I would not have thought of that. And then as Wallace 69. Right. I didn't think I'd like this show, but I did. Thanks. Well, and thank you for giving it a chance. And then we go over to YouTube, where Ron sir writes actually on A comment on a Johnny Dollar episode. I'm skipping ahead here a little. Adam, in your preview at the end of the show today, you mentioned you are starting Counterspy. Do you realize that counterspy is the origin of one of the funniest lines ever in Old time radio? And spoilers, he is not referring to I caught me a spy. Our heroes are working for a super secret clandestine organization battling the evils of communism wherever it manifests itself around the world. Stealth and anonymity are paramount weapons for these guys. Then they hop into a city taxi and say, take me to counterspy headquarters. Headquarters. And the driver knows where it is. Well, your description reminds me of a Get Smart episode from the first season where they had this school in a residential neighborhood and they finished solving the thread and Max was talking about the importance of keeping their secret and somebody asked, hey, is this the laundromat? And he said, no, no, no, no. That, that's. That's the spy school. In all seriousness though, I think this episode does establish kind of from the get go that people are aware of Counterspot. Now, if you're going to tell me that this little village in the middle of nowhere knows about counterspy and knows that they can reach counterspy by calling the operator in Washington, I'm gonna have a hard time not believing that everyone in the country also knows about counterspy and that it's headquartered in Washington. Now it will be interesting to see if they try to make it a bit more secret and and kind of brush away some of these things, which makes it a little better known. I will say too that having some sort of public presence doesn't necessarily mean an organization can't keep secrets and do all of the typical intelligence things. You know, think about the CIA. You can find their building that's in Langley, Virginia just by doing a Google search. Find out what it looks like and where it is. And certainly the CIA employs many spies who are able to go overseas and work in a clandestine fashion despite their organization being well known to the public. Although I don't know how many CIA agents come to the building in taxis, which would be one thing that would definitely give their cover away. Thanks for the comment. Now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day. And I want to thank Rob, patreon Supporter since May 2024. Currently supporting the podcast at the cadet level of $2 or more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Rob. That will do it for today. If you're enjoying enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software and be sure to rate and review the podcast wherever you download it from. We will be back next Saturday with another episode of Counterspot, but join us back here on Tuesday for Tarzan. The Meantime, do send your comments to Box [e-mail] From Boise, Idaho, this is your host, Adam Graham, signing off.

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