Mr. and Mrs. North: Fool's Gold (EP4698)

Summary

Summary of "Mr. and Mrs. North: Fool's Gold" (EP4698)

Podcast Information

• Title: The Great Detectives of Old Time Radio
• Episode: Mr. and Mrs. North: Fool's Gold (EP4698)
• Release Date: May 8, 2025
• Host: Adam Graham
• Characters: Pam North, Jerry North, Lois Gunther, Rose Gunther, Nick Daniels, Sergeant Brady

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Introduction

"Fool's Gold" is an episode from the detective audio drama series Mr. and Mrs. North, featuring the astute couple Pam and Jerry North as they unravel a complex web of deceit, bribery, and murder. Set against the backdrop of mid-20th century New York, the episode delves into themes of corruption, familial loyalty, and justice.

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Plot Overview

Initial Setup and Conflict

The episode opens with Mr. and Mrs. North addressing an apparent issue within the Gunther family. [02:23] Pam North initiates the conversation, revealing that something has transpired concerning Mrs. Gunther. As the narrative unfolds, it's disclosed that Herbert Gunther, the sole juror dissenting in Nick Daniels' contempt trial, likely accepted a $10,000 bribe to acquit Daniels.

Lois Gunther's Struggle

Lois Gunther, Herbert's daughter, is tormented by guilt over her father's decision to favor Daniels. [03:36] In a heartfelt exchange, Lois confesses her inability to live with the consequences of the jury's verdict, revealing the moral dilemma sparked by the bribe. Pam North confronts Lois, uncovering the depth of the family's entanglement in the bribery scheme.

Rising Tensions and Murder

The situation escalates when Rose Gunther, Herbert's wife, reaches out to Jerry North [09:35]. Shortly after, it's revealed that Rose has been murdered. Lois accuses Nick Daniels of the murder, claiming he killed her mother to silence her and protect his interests. However, as the investigation progresses, inconsistencies in Lois's story emerge, hinting at deeper layers of conspiracy.

Confrontation with Nick Daniels

The climax occurs when Lois confronts Nick Daniels [22:39]. Armed with a rod, she accuses him of murder, leading to a tense standoff. Jerry North intervenes, attempting to de-escalate the situation. During the confrontation, it's revealed that Pam North had manipulated Lois into believing Daniels was responsible, a revelation that exposes the true extent of the Norths' involvement.

Resolution and Revelation

Ultimately, it's unveiled that Pam North orchestrated the entire scenario to expose Nick Daniels' corrupt practices and secure justice for the Gunther family. The episode concludes with Daniels seemingly defeated but hints at future complications, leaving listeners anticipating subsequent developments.

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Key Characters

• Pam North: The astute and resourceful wife who spearheads the investigation.
• Jerry North: Pam's husband, equally sharp and methodical in unraveling mysteries.
• Lois Gunther: Daughters caught in the moral quandary of her father's bribery.
• Rose Gunther: The victim whose murder becomes the focal point of the investigation.
• Nick Daniels: A notorious gambler involved in corrupt activities.
• Sergeant Brady: The local law enforcement officer assisting in the case.

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Notable Quotes

• Pam North on the Bribery:
  "Why, for $10,000, that's why."
  [04:42]

• Lois Gunther's Confession:
  "I want to go to the district attorney and to the penitentiary, too."
  [04:04]

• Pam North Confronting Lois:
  "You think I'm going to let you walk out of here, ruin my one chance to have all the things I've ever wanted?"
  [12:22]

• Lois Accusing Daniels:
  "Daniels killed her. And you. You told him she was going to see Mr. North?"
  [20:11]

• Pam North's Admission:
  "All right. All right. Yes, I killed her. I ran over to the north to make sure Mr. Daniels stopped her from talking to them."
  [28:43]

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Themes and Insights

• Corruption and Morality: The episode explores the ramifications of accepting bribes and the ensuing moral conflicts.
• Familial Loyalty vs. Justice: Lois's internal struggle highlights the tension between family loyalty and the pursuit of justice.
• Manipulation and Deception: Pam North's strategic maneuvers demonstrate the complexities of uncovering the truth amidst deception.

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Conclusion

"Fool's Gold" masterfully intertwines personal vendettas with broader themes of corruption and justice. Through engaging dialogue and intricate plotting, Pam and Jerry North navigate the murky waters of bribery and murder, ultimately striving to restore integrity. This episode stands as a testament to the enduring allure of classic detective dramas, offering listeners both suspense and thoughtful commentary on human ethics.

Transcript

[Pam North]

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[Adam Graham]

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[Pam North]

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[Adam Graham]

Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're going to bring you this Week's episode of Mr. And Mrs. North. Before we get started, I do want to encourage you if you're enjoying the podcast, to follow us using your favorite podcast software. Also, I do want to let you know our Great Detectives of Old Time Radio T shirts are available. You can get those at t shirt quality greatdetectives.net well, once again I find myself in a place with this series where what's been semi official efforts to catalog the series have not been accurate. I thought I had two more episodes to play for you, but one was mislabeled and the other was inaudible. So this is actually the second to last episode we have and I'll talk a little bit after the podcast what we're going to be doing in the interim period between finishing Mr. And Mrs. North and launching our new Old Time Radio adventure series. But now, here from October 14th, 1952 is the episode Fool's Gold.

[Pam North]

That must be Mrs. Gunther.

[Jerry North]

Now, Jerry, I'll answer them. Well, Mrs. Gunther, Mrs. North and I have been wondering. Mrs. Gunther. Pam. Pam, come here. Something's happened to Mrs. Gunther. Mr. And Mrs. North, starring Joseph Curtain and Alice Frost. Listen as Pam and Jerry solve the mystery Fools go. Yes, it's Pam and Jerry north with another thrilling transcribed story brought to you by Adler Sewing Machine and your neighborhood Adler dealer. Adler, manufactured since 1860. The sewing machine that needs no attachments. Adler, famous the world over for its magic zigzag stitch. Now, Mr. And Mrs. North, the houses on Stanley street are as modest and unassuming as the people who own them. People like the Gunthers, for instance, Herbert Gunther, his wife Rose, and their daughter Lois. And yet there's a difference between the Gunthers and their neighbors. A strange and terrible difference.

[Pam North]

Yes?

[Lois Gunther]

Oh, yes.

[Pam North]

Lois, I thought I heard you in here.

[Lois Gunther]

Well, I. I couldn't sleep. I came in for a cigarette. No, don't turn on the light. You might wake up your mother. What time is it?

[Pam North]

After 11.

[Lois Gunther]

Lois.

[Pam North]

Yes?

[Lois Gunther]

Lois, I. I can't go through with it, Dad. I can't.

[Pam North]

I can't heaven's sake, dad, get hold of yourself. Mother will hear you.

[Lois Gunther]

I don't care.

[Pam North]

Well, I do.

[Lois Gunther]

Please, Lo. I thought it all out. I want to go to the district.

[Pam North]

Attorney and to the penitentiary, too.

[Jerry North]

No.

[Pam North]

But what. What do you think the district attorney will do when you tell him why you held out against convicting Nick Daniel?

[Lois Gunther]

He already suspects.

[Pam North]

What he suspects and what he can prove are two different things.

[Lois Gunther]

And the people, the people down at work, everybody in the neighborhood, they know. They're not fools. They know there's a reason why I was the only man on that jury that voted for acquittal. And your mother, I think she knows, too. Oh, why did I do it?

[Pam North]

Why, for $10,000, that's why.

[Lois Gunther]

I shouldn't have listened to you. I've let you have your own way all your life.

[Pam North]

Stop it, Ned. Stop it.

[Lois Gunther]

For once, I should have said no to you.

[Pam North]

Stop it, Ted. Oh, darling, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. I. Please forgive me.

[Lois Gunther]

It's all right, Lois.

[Pam North]

Oh, darling, listen. You mustn't torture yourself over what you did. I know how you must feel. I've always understood you. You told me so yourself, haven't you?

[Jerry North]

Yes.

[Pam North]

Even more than Mother. She's never cared. She's never understood you. Isn't that true?

[Lois Gunther]

Yes, Lois.

[Pam North]

No, listen. Listen to me. We had a chance, a chance some people never get. And we took it. And Tonight we have $10,000. Oh, darling, think of it. More money than you could have a dream of having by working the rest of your life for the North Publishing Company. Now you can have all the things you've always said you wanted for me and for yourself. And it isn't so. You kept Nick Daniels from being convicted of a real crime, a contempt charge. That's nothing.

[Lois Gunther]

Nothing.

[Pam North]

Of course not. But when I went to see him, I didn't think he'd be willing to pay anything just to stay out of jail for a few months. But he was. We'd have been fools not to have taken the money, wouldn't we?

[Lois Gunther]

Yes. Yes, I suppose so. And I'm sorry. I'm all right now. I was just a little frightened. A little nervous, I guess.

[Pam North]

I understand. Now, look, darling, you go on back to bed.

[Lois Gunther]

What's the matter?

[Pam North]

I heard something.

[Lois Gunther]

Your mother.

[Pam North]

Stay here.

[Jerry North]

Well.

[Pam North]

There wasn't anyone there.

[Lois Gunther]

Lois. What about your mother? She has to be told.

[Pam North]

She will be. When will it sleep? Now you go to bed. Let me worry about Mother.

[Jerry North]

Continued on page 16, column seven, page 14, page six. Oh, nuts.

[Pam North]

Pam. Oh. What is it, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

Where are you? In the bedroom, darling. Where is the rest of the evening paper?

[Pam North]

The rest of it? Well, I don't know, dear. Isn't it all there?

[Jerry North]

It's all here except the upper right hand corner of pages 15 and 16. Look.

[Pam North]

Oh, golly. Oh. Oh, that's right. There was an ad for the most marvelous sale of dresses on that page and I tore it up.

[Jerry North]

May I have it?

[Pam North]

Oh, of course, dear. Let's see. What did I do with it? Oh, yes, my purse.

[Jerry North]

I wish there was some way I could keep you from making confetti out of the newspaper until after I've read it.

[Pam North]

I'm sorry, darling. I thought you'd finished with a paper. Hey, here. Here's the ad. See? It fits into the torn part perfectly. And look, Jerry, isn't that the loveliest two piece jersey dress you ever saw for that crowd?

[Jerry North]

Darling, may I admire the dress after. After I found out what the President thinks our next step should be in the Far East.

[Pam North]

Of course.

[Jerry North]

Thank you.

[Pam North]

What, dear?

[Jerry North]

My bookkeeper is in the news again.

[Pam North]

Your bookkeeper? Oh, you mean that man Gunther?

[Jerry North]

Yeah. Listen. The district Attorney's office announced today it was dropping contempt charges against New York gambler Nick Daniels. The decision came one week after Daniels first trial when the jury standing 11 to 1 for conviction, failed to reach a verdict. This reporter has learned the lone juror who held out for acquittal was Herbert Gunther of 116 Stanley Street.

[Pam North]

Jerry, would you mind not reading anymore? Honestly, darling, every time I think of what Herbert Gunter did, I get so angry.

[Jerry North]

Take it easy, dear. Take it easy.

[Pam North]

I'm sorry, but I. I don't see how you can be so calm about it. Everybody knows what Nick Daniels is and he was obviously guilty.

[Jerry North]

Well, apparently Gunther didn't think so. And if that was his honest opinion.

[Pam North]

Yes, but I don't think it was an honest opinion. I think that bookkeeper of yours deliberately.

[Jerry North]

I'll answer it yet.

[Pam North]

Hello? Mr. North?

[Jerry North]

Yes?

[Pam North]

Mr. North, this is Rose Gunther.

[Jerry North]

Who?

[Pam North]

Mrs. Gunther.

[Jerry North]

Herbert Gunther's wife.

[Pam North]

Who is it, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

Herbert Gunther's wife.

[Pam North]

What? Mr. North?

[Jerry North]

Yes, Ms. Gunther?

[Pam North]

I'm sorry to bother you at this hour of the night, but I was wondering if I could see you for a few minutes tonight.

[Jerry North]

What about?

[Pam North]

I can't explain on the phone, Mr. North. What does she want, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

All right, Mrs. Gutha.

[Pam North]

Thank you, Mr. North. I can be at your apartment in about an hour. Goodbye.

[Jerry North]

Well, speak of the devil or the devil's wife.

[Pam North]

What was that all about?

[Jerry North]

I'm not sure, dear. But I have a very strong hunch that whatever it is, we're not going to like it.

[Pam North]

Stan, wake up.

[Lois Gunther]

Lois. What is it? What's the matter?

[Pam North]

Put on your robe and slippers and come with me. And hurry.

[Lois Gunther]

All right, all right. But where are we going?

[Pam North]

To Mother's room.

[Lois Gunther]

To Mother's room? Lois, what is this? Look, There's a light on in her room.

[Pam North]

Yes.

[Lois Gunther]

What is she doing up?

[Pam North]

Dressing to go out.

[Lois Gunther]

What looks. Lois.

[Pam North]

Herbert. May we come in, Mother?

[Lois Gunther]

Rose, where are you going?

[Jerry North]

Out.

[Pam North]

Where? Well, if you don't want to tell him, Mother, I will. Now, you heard me on the telephone.

[Lois Gunther]

The telephone?

[Pam North]

Talking to Mr. North. She asked to see him. That's where she's going.

[Lois Gunther]

Rose, do you know. Yes.

[Pam North]

I heard you and Lois in the living room tonight.

[Lois Gunther]

I'm sorry.

[Pam North]

If you mean for yourself, you should be.

[Jerry North]

But if you mean for me, there's.

[Pam North]

No need to be sorry. What I heard didn't come as any great shock. I suspected why you'd held out against convicting that man, Daniel.

[Jerry North]

The best I could do was hope I was wrong.

[Pam North]

Now I can't do even that anymore.

[Jerry North]

Why?

[Lois Gunther]

Why are you going to Mr. North?

[Pam North]

Because he's been good to you since the trial. With all that nasty publicity you got, he would have been justified in firing you. But he didn't. Now, I want his advice. You already know what that will be. Yes.

[Lois Gunther]

Listen, Rose, try to understand. I. I took that money. I. I made that deal with Nick Daniels for us.

[Jerry North]

Not for us, for her. The Lois.

[Pam North]

The 23 years she's been all you've lived for. I haven't married to you from the moment she was born. And I hate you for that, Herbert. I hate you both. Wait a minute, Mother. Get away from that door, Lois. No. Get away from that door, Lois. Let go of me. You think I'm going to let you walk out of here, ruin my one chance to have all the things I've ever wanted?

[Jerry North]

You crazy? You think? Go.

[Pam North]

I will.

[Jerry North]

Stop it.

[Pam North]

Lord.

[Lois Gunther]

Stop.

[Pam North]

Goodbye, dad. We can't let her go. We can't let her ruin everything like this.

[Lois Gunther]

Oh, this. There's nothing we can do, Louis. There's nothing we could do.

[Pam North]

You fool. You poor, stupid, violent fool. Information. I want the telephone number listed to Mr. Nick Daniels on Granley Square. That's right. The name is Nick Daniels.

[Jerry North]

Well, it appears that Lois Gunther has stopped asking for trouble and is prepared to start giving some.

[Pam North]

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[Jerry North]

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[Pam North]

When I tried to stop her, dad made me let her go.

[Jerry North]

That's fine. That's just dandy. What's the matter with that old man of yours anyway?

[Pam North]

He's so mixed up, Mr. Daniels?

[Jerry North]

You bet he's mixed up. So are you mixed up with something that'll send us all to the pen if that mother of yours shoots her mouth off. I told you we should have had the old lady in on a deal.

[Pam North]

All right, all right, Mr. Daniels. We made a mistake. So what are we going to do?

[Jerry North]

All you're gonna do is ride her on your old man. I'll handle your mother.

[Pam North]

How?

[Jerry North]

It all depends on how well she listens to a reasonable guy with a reasonable proposition. What's the address? This guy she's gonna talk to. It's Mr. Still.

[Pam North]

Isn't any answer at the Gunther's, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

Not a people.

[Pam North]

Something's happened to Mrs. Gunther, Jerry. I just know it has.

[Jerry North]

Oh, now, Pam, dear, let's not look.

[Pam North]

At the time, darling. It's been almost two hours since she phoned.

[Jerry North]

Well, yes, but she had to come from way out in Queensland to get here.

[Pam North]

But it doesn't take two hours. Jerry, listen. You agree that Mrs. Gunther must have wanted to see you about the way her husband behaved at Nick Daniels trial?

[Jerry North]

Yes, dear, but.

[Pam North]

And you said she sounded strange on the telephone. As though she was talking very low to keep someone at the other end from hearing her.

[Jerry North]

So?

[Pam North]

Well, if she found out that there was something wrong about The Daniels trial. Jerry, you know Nick Daniels reputation. Why, he. He's the kind of man who'd stop at nothing.

[Jerry North]

For heaven's sake, Pam, stop it. You're just letting your imagination run away with you. Now look.

[Pam North]

Jerry, the door.

[Jerry North]

You see, darling? What'd I tell you? All you're worrying phenomenon.

[Pam North]

Do you think that's Mrs. Gunther?

[Lois Gunther]

Well, of course.

[Jerry North]

Who else would it be at this hour of the night? I'll answer it. Why don't you make some coffee? She might like a cup.

[Pam North]

Oh, all right, dear.

[Jerry North]

Well, Mrs. Gunther, we've been wondering.

[Lois Gunther]

Mrs. Gunther.

[Pam North]

Mr. North.

[Jerry North]

Mrs. Gunther. What is it?

[Pam North]

Help. Help. Help. Help.

[Jerry North]

Pam. Pam, come here. What's the matter?

[Pam North]

Jeff? Is that Mrs. Gunther?

[Jerry North]

Yeah.

[Pam North]

What's the matter with her?

[Jerry North]

She's dead. Stabbed.

[Pam North]

Dad, Is that you?

[Lois Gunther]

Yes. Yes, it's me.

[Pam North]

Where have you been?

[Lois Gunther]

Oh, just. Just walking.

[Pam North]

I heard you go out and I.

[Lois Gunther]

Thought but I'd gone to give myself up. Well, I was going to, but then I thought, what's the use of. Rose is taking care of that. Besides, it was. It was nice out tonight and I wanted a little more time just to walk.

[Pam North]

Dad, listen, I packed some bags for us. We can go somewhere tonight. And then when the bank opens in the morning, you can get the money out of the safe deposit board and run away. Yes.

[Lois Gunther]

No, dad, no. I'm going to stay right here.

[Pam North]

Maybe you are, but I'm not.

[Lois Gunther]

Then go.

[Pam North]

You're the only one who can get the money out of the bank.

[Lois Gunther]

Then you'll have to go without the money. I'm. I'm sorry, Lois, but this is one time I can't listen to you this once. I can't give you what you want.

[Pam North]

All right. Kevin, you are with you.

[Lois Gunther]

Yeah. We should be hearing from your mother soon.

[Jerry North]

Yes.

[Lois Gunther]

Why did I do it? That's. That's what I can't understand. Why, just two weeks ago tonight, I remembered while I was out walking, I. I came home from work early and I had dinner and worked out in the yard. I raked leaves and. And while they were burning And Bob Williams next door and I. We. We stood around and. And we talked. And then I came in and read the paper and went to bed. That was the way my life was. I wasn't the kind of man who. Who'd do a thing like this. So how did it happen?

[Pam North]

Why did I do it? Why? Oh, stop it. Stop feeling so sorry for yourself. You make me sick listening to you. Oh, I'll answer it. Hello? Yes, this is the Gunther residence. Lois Gunther. Speaking. What we here. No.

[Jerry North]

No.

[Lois Gunther]

What? What is it, Lois?

[Pam North]

He is. He is. Right away. Mr. North.

[Lois Gunther]

Mr. North. What's the matter, Lois? Has something happened to your mother?

[Pam North]

Yes.

[Lois Gunther]

What?

[Pam North]

She. She's dead.

[Jerry North]

Dead?

[Pam North]

She's been murdered. At the North. The police are there now. Mr. North said mother rang his bell and when he answered the door.

[Lois Gunther]

Daniels. He killed her. Daniels killed her. And you. You told him she was going to see Mr. North?

[Jerry North]

No.

[Lois Gunther]

But how did he know?

[Jerry North]

You're lying. Tell me the truth.

[Lois Gunther]

I want the truth.

[Jerry North]

Please stand out.

[Lois Gunther]

Then tell me the truth.

[Pam North]

All right. Yes, I told him.

[Jerry North]

Dad.

[Lois Gunther]

Scum.

[Pam North]

What are you doing? Dad? What are you doing?

[Jerry North]

What?

[Pam North]

I got.

[Lois Gunther]

I'm. I'm going to see Nick Daniels. I'm going to kill him if it's the last thing in the world I do. I'm gonna kill him.

[Jerry North]

Okay, Leo. You can tell the boys with a basket I'm true. Right, Sergeant. I'll be out in the kitchen talking to Mr. And Mrs. North. Okay. All right, you guys, you can.

[Lois Gunther]

All right.

[Jerry North]

Got any more coffee? Why, sure. Come in, Sergeant Brady, and sit down.

[Pam North]

I'll get you a cup.

[Jerry North]

Thanks. You're in charge here? Temporarily.

[Pam North]

Temporarily?

[Jerry North]

This case will go downtown headquarters before morning. According to the patrolman who answered your call, you identified the woman as Mrs. Herbert Gunther. That's right.

[Pam North]

Yes, Sergeant.

[Jerry North]

Cream and sugar, I take it? Blank. Thanks. Mrs. Herbert Gunther, the wife of the one juror who hung tough and wouldn't convict Nick Daniels, Right? Right. Now she's dead. Murdered. I think there's a connection, don't you?

[Pam North]

Of course we do.

[Jerry North]

And so will everyone else from the commissioner on down. That's why they'll take it over downtown. Nick Daniels is big. Nobody knows exactly how big, maybe, but big enough for the department to call on the first string to crack this thing. Meanwhile, it's my baby. And I wouldn't mind having a crack at Daniels myself. Oh, he can understand that. So would you folks like to take a ride down this place on Grimly Square? We can talk on the way. Drink your coffee and let's go. Sergeant. Ah, the coffee can wait, Mr. North. Nick Daniels can't. Okay, okay. Who is it?

[Lois Gunther]

Herbert Gunther, Mr. Daniels.

[Jerry North]

Gunther. What do you want?

[Lois Gunther]

I've got to see you.

[Jerry North]

What about?

[Lois Gunther]

Please, Mr. Daniels, open the door. It's important.

[Jerry North]

Okay. Come in.

[Lois Gunther]

Thank you.

[Jerry North]

It's okay. Gunther Spillen. What do you got in your mind?

[Lois Gunther]

Murder, Mr. Daniels.

[Jerry North]

Say, what is this? What are you doing with that rod?

[Lois Gunther]

I'm going to kill you. What? I mean it, Mr. Daniels.

[Jerry North]

What's the matter with you? You jump your trolley or something?

[Lois Gunther]

You killed my wife.

[Jerry North]

Your wife?

[Lois Gunther]

To keep her from talking to Mr. North.

[Jerry North]

You're nuts.

[Lois Gunther]

My daughter telephoned you. She said.

[Jerry North]

I don't know what you're talking about. Now look, you crazy old. Go take that cat pistol.

[Lois Gunther]

Gaddy, stay where you are. Mr. Daniels, come.

[Jerry North]

Listen.

[Pam North]

Use your head.

[Jerry North]

You can't get away with this.

[Lois Gunther]

I don't to want get away with it, Mr. Daniels. What happens to me now doesn't matter.

[Jerry North]

Ah, look. Concert.

[Lois Gunther]

Be quiet, Mr. Daniels.

[Jerry North]

Will you tell me?

[Pam North]

Don't move.

[Jerry North]

For the love of Mike, will you give me that? Open up, Daniels. It's the police. Cops. Hear that, Gunther? You shoot me and they'll grab you before you can move. Give me that gun, Gunther.

[Lois Gunther]

Hey, where you are, mister? Destination.

[Jerry North]

You let go of me. Stop it.

[Pam North]

No.

[Jerry North]

Let me go or I'll. Daniel.

[Pam North]

Jerry. That was a gunshot.

[Jerry North]

Come on, Mr. North.

[Lois Gunther]

Let you get towards the door, right?

[Adam Graham]

Wait.

[Pam North]

Someone's unlocking the door.

[Lois Gunther]

Hello, Mr. North. Gunther.

[Pam North]

What happened in here, Mr. Gunther?

[Jerry North]

Where's Nick Daniels?

[Lois Gunther]

Over there, behind the couch. He's dead.

[Jerry North]

Well, it appears that this time Herbert Gunther found Nick Daniels guilty.

[Pam North]

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[Jerry North]

Yes, you'll sing a happy sewing song too, ladies, when you own an Adler sewing machine. Adler, the sewing machine that does everything Needs no attachments for sewing on buttons, making buttonholes, mending, darning, monogramming, sewing forward or reverse, straight or zigzag. The Adler even does blind stitching without attachments. All made possible by the Adler magic zigzag lever. See the wonderful Adler at your Adler dealers. Tomorrow he'll be happy to show you how easy sewing can be on the Adler sewing machine. And now back to Mr. And Mrs. North. Give me that gun, Gunter.

[Lois Gunther]

Take it.

[Jerry North]

Sergeant. Yes, Mr. North? Daniels isn't dead. Where was he hit?

[Pam North]

On the side of the head.

[Jerry North]

It was just a flesh wound. The slug nicked him enough to knock him out, but that's all. Take it easy, Daniels. You're gonna be okay. At least we won't have to amputate. Very funny, copper. You're a scream, ain't you? Look. That crazy old fool tried to kill me and jumped him. He would have. Don't kid yourself, Daniels. You were just lucky. Luckier than you deserve and luckier than you'll ever be again. The guy who turns on the juice up and Sing Sing never misses. If you're saying I killed Gunther's wife, you Nazi's lying. Look, Gunther, you've had a busy evening. You must be tired. You just relax till I get around you, huh? Okay, Daniels. That's a cop. Only got one thing to say. I didn't kill the gun today. I had no reason to kill her.

[Pam North]

That's a lie, Lois.

[Jerry North]

Well, well. Who's that?

[Lois Gunther]

My daughter, lois.

[Jerry North]

Come in, Ms. Gunther. How do you know Daniels is lying?

[Pam North]

Because I telephoned him. I told him my mother was going to tell Mr. North that Father had taken $10,000 from Nick Daniels to hold out for acquittal in his contempt trial.

[Jerry North]

Well, how about it, Daniels? Come on, Nick. Come on, let's stop wasting time. Okay, that much is true. Dame here called me and waited for her mother outside the North's apartment house.

[Pam North]

Stabbed her to death?

[Jerry North]

No, I forced her into my car. I was going to bring her up here and have a talk with her. Convinced her she had to keep her mouth shut. We got out of the car out in front here. She started screaming her head off. People started popping their heads out of the windows. So you just let her go? I had. And you didn't catch up with her again in our apartment building? No. I think you're lying, Daniels.

[Lois Gunther]

Of course he's lying.

[Pam North]

Well, I don't think he is. And neither would you, dear, if you just stop and think a minute.

[Jerry North]

Think about what?

[Pam North]

What you said on the telephone when you called the Gunther House about Mrs. Gunther having been killed. Do you remember exactly what you said?

[Jerry North]

Oh, no, not exactly.

[Pam North]

Well, I do. Very exactly. You talked to Lois Gunther and you told her her mother was dead. That she'd been killed. That's all.

[Jerry North]

So?

[Pam North]

So if you just said that Mrs. Gunther had been killed and. And not how she'd been killed, why did Lois Gunther accuse Nick Daniels of stabbing her mother? I. I didn't. Oh, but you did, Ms. Gunther.

[Jerry North]

And there was only one way you could have known your mother had been stabbed to death.

[Pam North]

Lois, I didn't kill her. I didn't.

[Lois Gunther]

You're lying.

[Pam North]

No.

[Jerry North]

Take it easy.

[Lois Gunther]

Go on me, Lois.

[Jerry North]

Tell me the truth.

[Lois Gunther]

You hear?

[Jerry North]

I want the truth.

[Pam North]

All right. All right. Yes, I killed her. I ran over to the north to make sure Mr. Daniels stopped her from talking to them. And then when I saw her coming back after getting away from me. I. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm afraid your tears come a little too easily, Ms. Gunther. And much too laugh. Jerry.

[Jerry North]

Yes, dear?

[Pam North]

Did you bring home an evening paper?

[Jerry North]

I certainly did, darling. In fact, I not only brought home one, I brought two.

[Pam North]

Two? Oh, that's wonderful, dear. I've been meaning to tell you that I thought that with the elections coming on, we should read more than one newspaper so we get both sides of the question. Which paper did you buy? The Courier and the Ledger?

[Jerry North]

No, dear. I bought two copies of the Courier.

[Pam North]

Two of the Courier? You can't get both sides of the question from two copies of the same paper.

[Jerry North]

No, my pretty little ad clipper. But I can get both sides of the page.

[Pam North]

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[Jerry North]

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[Lois Gunther]

KNX Los.

[Jerry North]

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[Adam Graham]

You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply That's Oregon Home. Welcome back. The highlight of the episode, the Adler Sewing Machine ads. Incredibly catchy. Could listen to the ad all day and honestly, it was a hundred times better than the episode itself. Easily. This is my least favorite episode of the series. Prior to when you get the Britton and Denning takeover on radio, it's soapy melodrama worse than anything we heard in the spring, episodes that barely featured our heroes and more just focused on over the top acting from the guy who played the person who worked for Jerry as well as the woman who played his daughter. And this is a story. It's a rare episode where nothing worked. The crime the guy gave a 10,000 bribe not to be convicted was ridiculous. I mean contempt. When has contempt figured in one of these cases before? And we don't even get Bill Wigan. We get a sergeant who admits he's essentially a second Ring detective, which I guess they have on the nypd. Wonder where Tartaglia is in those rankings. I digress. Even the little banter we get between Jerry and Pam is weak sauce. He's a book publisher, makes good money, it's an extra newspaper on the days when there are coupons. It's the most petty of domestic annoyances possible, and the way it's handled is quite tedious. The worst part of this episode is is that it gets mislabeled as other episodes. So I've heard this one at least parts of it more times than any other. So I've had to listen to this repeatedly. And I will say though the one thing I will say in its favor is that the average Denning Frost episode is actually worse. Although it is kind of along the same lines now, due to the mislabeled episodes that we dealt with that we thought we would be playing, we're kind of getting to the end of the series a bit early. So we are going to be doing some specials on Thursday just to give us the time to get the adventure series properly launched. But next week will be our last. Mr. And Mrs. North, and then we will have our spring vacation. All right, well, now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day. And I want to go ahead and thank Joe. Joe has been one of our patreon supporters since April 2019, currently supporting the podcast at the Master detective level of $15 or more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Joe. And that will actually do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software and be sure to rate and review the podcast wherever you download it from. We will be back next Thursday with our final episode of Mr. And Mrs. North, but join us back here tomorrow. For yours truly, Johnny Dollar Ware.

[Jerry North]

Here's a little thing I picked up in London, Johnny. It's called the Old man in Red by Goya. I thought original oils by him were found only in the big museum. And I've been pretty lucky in getting hold of some of these. Yeah, you've known what you were doing too. You like this one? It's called Fright. It was painted by Kenneth McManus. Aha.

[Lois Gunther]

Beautiful.

[Jerry North]

Beautiful. Like all the rest of them. Thanks. How about this one here at the end? Night Wind by. I'm sorry, Vincent, I can't make out that name. You don't have this one lighted like the rest? No, that's to maintain its somber mood. Oh, and that's what made it possible for the substitution of this copy to go undetected. That's a copy? Yeah, and that's my problem. The hundred thousand dollar night win by Jean Baptiste has been stolen. This was left in its place. Oh, I see. It's not a bad copy. Probably worth a couple of hundred dollars, but it's hardly a genuine Baptiste. When did you discover this substitution? When I returned from a lecture tour early last week. Oh, that's right. You've been traveling all over the country lecturing on art. Let's call it talking about art. Tell me, have you notified the police about this? I suppose I should have. Well, I felt that was Bird Parker's job.

[Lois Gunther]

And you haven't been able to reach.

[Jerry North]

Him over at 4 State Mutual. I told you on the phone, he hasn't been in his office for some time.

[Adam Graham]

I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, send your comments to box Thirteenreatetectives.net Follow us on Twitter at radiodetactives and check us out at on Instagram. Instagram.com Great. Detectives from Boise, Idaho, this is your host, Adam Graham, son and all.