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Hello from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham. While the great detectives of Old Time Radio is the biggest podcast that I do, it's not the only Old Time Radio podcast. And of course, we have been introducing you to the great adventurers of Old Time Radio recently. But today we're serving up a sample of the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon. The Old Time Radio Snack Wagon is a series that I launched in 2023 and it features a wide variety of different Old Time Radio programs across a variety of genres. And these focus on shorter bits. They're things that you can listen to while you're in the car, going to the gym or taking a quick trip to the convenience store with either short self contained programs or clips from longer shows. But what exactly does that look like? In our second Old Time Radio Snack Wagon sampler, we serve up four episodes to kind of give you a flavor of what we have to offer, including the first episode of Abroad with the Lockharts, which is the only series that we've done where we've played every circulating episode of the series as it tells one story. And if you are interested in listening to the rest of Abroad with the Lockharts or find some of the episodes that we brought you appealing in this smorgasbord, then Please subscribe@snackwagon.net or search for the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon wherever you get your podcast from. But now please enjoy this special serving from the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon Smorgasbord.
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Welcome to the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon. Today we're serving up something extra special. Wings Over Jordan was one of the highest rated sustaining programs that aired during the golden age of radio with an original 10 year run of more than 500 episodes. Since then it slid into obscurity, but I think it's worth remembering the series began with the tireless efforts of Reverend Glenn Suttle, pastor of the Gethsemane Baptist Church, a black congregation Cleveland that had predominantly migrated from the South. Cleveland is and was a multi ethnic city at the time. On Sunday, WGAR radio had programming blocks dedicated to all the city's major ethnic groups, but nothing for the city's black population. WGAR program director Worth Kramer launched the Negro Hour with the Gethsemane Choir providing the music, usually a selection of hymns and Negro spirituals. CBS picked up the series and took it national and it was renamed Wings Over Jordan. Wings Over Jordan featured beautiful choral music as well as a guest speaker on a variety of topics. And some of these guest speakers might be community and religious leaders, and in at least one episode, actress Hattie McDaniel appeared after winning the Oscar for her performance in Gone with the Wind. But each speaker served to bring to a national audience the stories and concerns of black Americans. Some tell stories of predominantly black neighborhoods where the radios would all be tuned to Wings Over Jordan with the radio on the porch or the windows so that others could hear. Yet the audience crossed racial lines with supporters including First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York City. While the series recorded more than 500 episodes, I am only aware of the existence of one broadcast. This was an Armed Forces Radio Service broadcast which included the music and Reverend Suttle's narration, but not a guest speaker. I can't give a specific date for the program except that it aired sometime between 1942 and 1946. Here now is Wings Over Jordan.
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Wings Over Jordan. Pharaoh. Pharaoh. To let my people go. Here is the originator and director of Wings Over Jordan, the Reverend Glenn T. Settle. Wings Over Jordan. Enchanting and glorious. From over yond mystic divide comes the assurance and hope that he is an ever present help in trouble and a friend that never fails. Pause for a moment and gain a refreshment ado. Then go on your way with a song in your soul for another week. Careless living often results in years of misery and regrettable sorrows. If it were only in this life that we suffered it wouldn't seem so terrible after all. But the crux of the whole matter is you've got to give an account in the judgment. So you'd better mind.
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Oh, you better mind.
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You better mind, you better judgment. You better mind.
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Oh, you got a mind, you got a mind.
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You bought a mind. You got a mind, you got, you better mind. You got a mind.
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How you talk, you got a mind.
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When judgment you better mind. You got a mind. Are you free? Oh, you better mind, you better mind, you better mind. Oh, you better mind, you better mind, you better mind. You got to give everybody. You better mind, you better mind, you better mind, you got to give an account of the judgment. You better mind, you better mind, you better mind, you better mind, you better mind. You got to give out the judgment. You better mind. Cecil Dandy leads the choir in our next number. Today have I give up in the day Today have I have some needed soul on the.
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SA what I've adored all today have I seen some great acclaim all best as I go to take my rest Be with the blessing la the Babylonian prophet looked up to behold a stone leaping out of the mountain to start its perilous journey through the temptations and hidden snares of this wicked world. One day I stepped into the path it made and now I need your prayers to help me For I too am a rolling through an unfriendly world. O sister, won't you help me? Oh, sister, won't you help me to sing? Oh, sister, won't you help me? Won't you help me in the service of the Lord? I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling through an unfriendly world I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling through an unfriendly world O brother, won't you help me? Oh, brother, won't you help me to pray? O brother, won't you help me? Would you help me in the service of the Lord I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling I'm a rolling through an unfriendly world I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling through an unfriendly well oh preacher, won't you help me oh preacher, won't you help me to pray? Oh preacher, won't you help me Won't you help me in the service of the Lord I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling I'm a rolling I'm a rolling through an unfriendly world I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling Good on friendly way I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling I'm a rolling Through a run everywhere I'm a rolling, I'm a rolling and now the choir gives you a most consoling song. When I've done the best I can When I've done the best I can me After I have done my best I will find when my Savior carries me.
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Home.
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Many when the best I've done for thee on the best of me Then my Lord will carry me if I never never more see you I'm gonna meet you at the judgment day oh yes I'm climbing up the mountain Children. Moses went down in Egypt. For the past quarter hour, you have been listening to the Wings Over Jordan Choral on Somme under the direction of the Reverend Glenn T. Suttle, a presentation of the Armed Forces Radio Service.
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Welcome back. Wings Over Jordan would remain a presence in American music and culture for decades. The group would have numerous tours both before and after the war. Their talent would open doors that were closed to other black performers of the era, particularly in segregated areas of the country during the war. The choir was in great demand to come overseas and were the largest single group of performers brought overseas. And initially they were scheduled to do a six month tour of Europe, which was later extended to 10 months. There was even more touring after the war. The group continued to perform even after it left radio with new members, record deals, satellite choirs, and eventually a celebration chorus that formed in the 1980s to celebrate the group's legacy. This is one of the more intriguing series I've come across with so much to its stor, and while it's the only episode in circulation, there are records, albums and histories who find themselves hungry for more after listening to this week's Old Time Radio Snack. Welcome to the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon where this week we're serving up a diamond studded Delight Diamonds have fascinated mankind for millennia. They've been the basis of many fortunes and empires and also the cause of much bloodshed. They were a natural inspiration for radio drama series in 1934, the Diamond Drama series was broadcast over KYDL Radio in Salt Lake City. The series was sponsored by Miracle Diamonds. Not an actual diamond company, but a company that sold diamond shaped laxative salts derived from the Great Salt Lake and it was owned by Sydney Fox, who also owned kydl. Fox took the series national as a syndicated show under the sponsorship of Davidson and Leaked Jewelry company and the Gruen Watch Company. This is a series that we did feature in our very first Amazing World of Radio miniseries in 2017, although today we're bringing you a different episode than I played seven years ago. I don't have any logs for the original Salt Lake City run, but we do have a log for when the series was broadcast in Oakland in 1935. Today's episode aired on October 14, 1935 and the title is the Pit Diamond.
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7 customer support, his venue never misses a beat. Call quickgranger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done. In the year 1701, Thomas Pitt, or Diamond Pit as he was called, was governor of the city of Madras in India. He was an interesting personality, a soldier of fortune who had set up business in opposition to the powerful East India Company. At length, that same company, realizing the brilliance of Pitt, took him into the firm where he became a powerful factor. One day, as usual, he was seated in his office busily at work. Bradford yes, Mr. Pitt? What was that you said about some Hindu wanting to see me? A lady by the name of Balkeva, Sir Balkhiva, who's in charge of a native unit at Golcondo Mine. Yes, I Believe he is connected in some way. Well, why didn't you tell me? It slipped my mind, mister. Could I. I'm sorry. You could be. Tell this Baka to come in immediately. Very good, Mr. Pitt. Ba. I wonder. Come here. Bakiba is well? Quite well. Ba. I bring something to the sahib. I hear from the men in Golconda that Governor sahib likes the diamonds. Oh, I think perhaps the governor sahib might like what I have here. Yes. Yes. Well, let me see it. Here it is. Daim. Good heaven. Wyatt is bigger than you. Do you know much about diamonds, Akiva? It is not a diamond, then? Not a diamond? Why, it's the most wonderful one I've ever. Well, where did you get it? I found it. You found it? Yes, I found it lying by the path. You did well to bring it here, Bhagiva. I was afraid to let anyone else see it. Dahi, I do not want to be cheated. Of course, the diamond is not cut. And there might be flaws, you know. Then the sahib will not buy it? Oh, I. I didn't say that. I. Well, what do you ask for it? The sahib will tell me what he will tell. Let me see. I'll pay you. What do you say to £1,000? £1,000? I will sell it to the Sahib for £1,000. Good. Bradford, my secretary will give you the money. You will buy it now, Sahib. Yes. But only on one condition. That you say nothing about it to anyone. Nothing? Yes. Take Bharkiva with you, Bradford. Pay him £1,000 of my own money. Now, this is a bargain, Bakiba. What? I said it will not be necessary for you to return to Golconda. You understand? Yes. May prosperity come to you, sahib. You never fear that, Bradford. See the Bakiba is well treated. Goodbye, Bakiba. Farewell, Govinor Sahib. Now, let me wait. More than 200. 300? Count me. Surely it's not. Yes, that's balance. 410 carats. Why, this stone is worth a king's ransom. And it's mine. Mine. I can buy the world with this. And it only cost me £1,000.
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Oh, thank you so much, Mr. Pitt.
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Well, thank you, lady. He.
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Oh, I watched your career with so much interest. Isn't India the most glamorous place?
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Well, frankly, Lady Heathard, I found it very hot. Muggy. The fogs of England are more to my liking.
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Oh, but tell me, did you really wait 16 years before selling the diamond?
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That is a subject I would rather not discuss.
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I was wondering if you'd forgotten our dance. Oh, Good evening, Lady heathcote. Good evening, Mrs. Trent.
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Oh, by no means, Marion. Excuse me, Lady Heathcote, won't you.
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Certainly, certainly.
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Come, Marian. Phew. It's hot in here. It's a beautiful night. Come, let's go out on the balcony. You can watch the people in the garden.
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Yes, indeed. Beautiful. I suppose. I suppose you feel that this is your triumph, Tom. This wonderful estate, all these people begging for your favor.
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Yes, it is my triumph. Marian. You may not have heard that I finally sold a diamond for £135,000.
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Yes, I heard of it. Who has not? I heard you sold it to France.
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Yes, yes, the Duke of Orleans bought it for Louis. I understand they'll call it the Regent Diamond.
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Then it was a good investment after all.
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You don't seem very pleased about it, Marian.
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Why, yes, I am, Tom. It's a great night for the Thomas Pitt I used to know.
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Oh, come. Don't say used to know, Marian. You know me now.
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Yes, but it's all so different. You're a great man now. You have married into one of England's greatest houses. The Court of France knows you. But I'm only Marion Trent, a poor man's wife. It is a bit different, you must admit.
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Marion. You know why we're out on this balcony alone. I want to talk to you. I am an old friend. Let me help you and your husband.
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Why, Tom, how did you know that we.
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Let me help you, please. I can do it easily.
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I. I don't know what you are talking about, Tom.
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Yes, you do, Marian. I'm talking about those Indian bonds of your husband. I often know that he is facing bankruptcy. And I. I know that that would mean bitter poverty and disgrace for you.
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All of that.
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Let me give you the money, Marian.
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Why do you wish to help me? We have been strangers to each other for 10 years, Marion.
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Marion, why did I let you go?
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Please remember, you are married to someone else and so am I.
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Yes, I threw my happiness away. I gambled and I lost.
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I don't see why you were unhappy. Your diamond has brought you a tremendous fortune. You have a devoted wife whose father gave her a huge dowry. Since you returned from India 16 years ago, you've had everything you wanted.
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I have everything I want. Except the one thing I want the most.
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Please, come.
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You know as well as I, Marian, that I love you. From the first day I saw you 10 years ago, you were the woman for me. Come, say yes to me. I'll do anything for you. I can give you anything you want in the world. And you could give me the happiness I lost.
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Thomas Pitt. You say that to me now when I am married to another man, when I've borne his children, when you know that I love him.
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But you once loved me, Marion. You can't deny that.
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Yes, I loved you. But I soon found out that the thing you love best in the world was not me, but your diamond. Your big pebble that you treasured above all things on earth.
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Marian.
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Yes, Tom. That is why I gave you up. It would have had to be me or the diamond. And I knew you too well to expect you to give up the diamond.
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But, Marian, I don't understand. The diamond have been yours too. Would it?
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I doubt that, Tom. You were more jealous of that huge rock stone than a man is ever of a beautiful wife. When I first met you, you were in the act of changing your lodging because you were afraid someone was planning to rob you. In the six months I knew you, you changed your room seven times. You wore disguises whenever we went to the theater, whenever we were together. I felt that you longed to be back in your room, guarding that great glittering mass. Is it any wonder that realized we could never have any happiness together?
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Marian, I don't deny it.
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You talk to me of love now because you have nothing else left that you cannot buy. Yes, Tom. You made money in position, your gods and you served them faithfully. You and I have nothing to say to one another.
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You are. You are being very hard on me.
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Can you expect anything else?
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Marion, I want your love.
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I'm afraid it's too late for that now, Tom. Ten years ago, it might have been very different.
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Then. Then there's no chance for me. No.
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I cannot sell my love.
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I. I suppose I deserve this. Oh, we pay for everything we have in this world. Sometimes I. I think I paid too great a price. I paid for that diamond with my very soul. From the time the Hindu put it into my hand, that diamond possessed every wake and moment of my life. At first, I was confident I would find an immediate buyer. But as the years went by and nobody would pay the price I asked, I grew half mad with disappointment. There were times when I hated that diamond. When I would have longed to throw it into the sea and throw myself after it. Then there was a night when I. No, no, no, no. I can't tell you.
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Please, Tom.
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Well, you know me for what I am, after all. I may as well tell you. There was one night when I did throw it out of the window. Yes. Yes, I did. I was crazed with horror. At what I thought might be done with it. And I rushed into the street. I crawled on my hands and knees in the mud, calling on God to help me. Last, I found it lying in the filthy gutter. That's what it did for me. And when at last I sold it, all the money in the world couldn't bring back my son. Self respect.
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I pity you, Tom.
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Oh, no, no, you mustn't say that. You. You've humbled me enough. Go on, Mar. Go on into the house. I. I must be home.
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But, Tom, I.
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Please go. I. I'll follow you in. In a moment.
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Are you sure that you're.
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Thank you, Marian, for showing me my health.
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Goodbye, Tom.
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Mar. I Beg your pardon, Mr. Peter.
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I didn't know you were.
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Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, it's you, Bradford. Well, come here a moment. I want to see you. Yes, Mr. Pitt. You. You've been with me a great many years, haven't you? I can trust you? I hope that you can, sir. Yes. Well, now, tomorrow I want you to arrange through the East India Company to buy all the Indian bonds belonging to James Trent. But they're worthless, Mr. P. Yes, I know, but. Do as I say and listen. By the way, under no circumstances let anyone know that I am the buyer. It's merely a little. A little private debt. Sa Sam.
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Welcome back. A fascinating story, if a bit embellished. Golden age radio programs did a great job highlighting real historical events that had often become obscure. But often they couldn't help but gild the lily in the name of telling a more interesting story. That's certainly the case here. The real story of the Pit diamond is a little different than portrayed in this episode. For one thing, the romance of Angle didn't happen. At least not as it was described in the drama. Governor Pitt wasn't a free man, as he'd been married for two decades at the time of acquiring the diamond, and his wife would actually outlive him. Second, the diamond wasn't quite the steal it was made out to be. The seller of the diamond actually showed up to Governor Pitt asking for £100,000. And through negotiations, Pitt got the price down to around 20,000 pounds, reasoning that he didn't like to spend that much money on a single business transaction. And obviously he was quite far away from sort of experts who could help fully evaluate the diamond and facilitate the transaction. Now, where the thousand pound figure could have come from is that the man who showed up up to sell Pitt the diamond had actually acquired it from a sea captain for a thousand pounds after the sea captain had stolen it from a slave and murdered him. But that didn't have anything to do with Governor Pitt. So I think they combined some details. For Pitt's part, he sent the diamond back to England hidden in the heel of one of his son's boots. It was then sent to a diamond cutter in London who spent two years cutting the diamond at the cost of 5,000 pounds. Now, in addition to the Regent's diamond, there was a smaller diamond cut from the original stone that was sold to Peter the Great of Russia for £7,000. And then 16 years after Pitt acquired the original, the Regent diamond was sold to the Duke of Orleans for 135,000 pounds, which is the equivalent in today's money of 21.8 million pounds sterling. It had many uses over the years, including Marie Antoinette's decision to wear it on one of her hats, which might have been a mistake. As for the program's claim of Pitt having trouble as a result of possessing the diamond and some of the events and obsessiveness, I couldn't find any supporting documents. But I have to admit that I didn't take a deep dive into obscure libraries. Fabulous diamonds, trouble and anxiety all run together, so I don't doubt some version of those events happen. It's worth noting that the log information for this series came from the website the Digital Deli FTP. While it's defunct and no longer online, you can find its cached pages on the Internet archive. The Digital Deli claim that these episodes were recorded in 1926 or 1927, which would make them remarkably old. However, it doesn't cite any source for this claim and I can't find any record of them airing before 1934. It is also possible that there was a separate run of diamond dramas that were aired live back in 1926 or 27, and that fox opted to re record them for potential syndication. Regardless, the series would make periodic comebacks into the 1940s. One of the great benefits of syndicated series is that they could always be resold for different stations years and years after their first issue. While Fox didn't quite get the same return on his investment as Governor Pitt did on the purchase of the Regent diamond series, is did prove a great friend to sponsors and syndicators alike for years to come. This week's old time radio snack is going to be Australian Style Australia had its own golden age of radio, with numerous networks and syndicators producing a wide variety of programs. Some of these were remakes of American radio scripts in Australia, and fans of a variety of American shows, from the Fat man to the Shadow and Charlie Chan, have likely encountered these sort of programs. However, Australia produced many fine programs of its own. Among these syndicators with the widest rate was Artranza, originally known as the American Radio Transcription Agency, whose original goal was to sell American radio shows to Australian stations. However, directly importing American radio dramas was banned and so many companies imported American radio scripts and then had them reperformed by Australian actors. Artranza did some of this. They created the Australian version of Gunsmoke as well as a few other programs. But mostly Artranza tended to make original radio dramas for the Australian market, such as the crime and smuggling series Forbidden Cargo. Today's episode is from a very obscure series that is not actually listed by any of the online resources that list all of the radio dramas Artrans have produced. However, I was able to confirm from newspaper logs that it aired in 1938. The series is Famous Escapes, which pretty much is exactly what it sounds like. So here now is the 24th episode, Escape from Robespierre.
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This is the story of the one As a maintenance supervisor at a manufacturing facility, he knows keeping the line up and running is a top priority. That's why he chooses Granger, because when a drive belt gets damaged, Grainger makes it easy to find the exact specs for the replacement product he needs and next day delivery helps ensure he'll have everything in place and running like clockwork. Call 1-800-granger. Click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done. Famous Escapes this is a story of the French Revolution, 1793. The revolutionaries under Robespierre were in supreme power, but the violence of their rule provoked a counter revolution in Brittany. One of the most dreaded of the counter revolutionary leaders was the Count de Mailleux, and at his headquarters this story opens the Marquis de Storm wishes to see you sir. Choke him in the Marquis de Storg. Commend the stock. Thank you. Di Maio. Sit down. What Brings you to headquarters. I desire leave of absence. What do you need? A holiday? I wish to visit Paris. Harry, do you want to commit suicide? My wife is in Paris. How is that? I thought she was safe in Normandy. Her mother was captured by the revolutionaries. There was no time to consult me. She rode post haste for Paris. What did she hope to do? God knows. Whatever she hoped, she was too late. Her mother had gone to the guillotine before she arrived. And your wife? Is she in prison? No. So far she is safe. The Committee for Public Safety does not even know of her arrival. But she can't get out of the city. The new passport regulations are too strict. And you propose to put your head into the lion's mouth? I must get her out of Paris to Meyer. If she stays there, they'll find her sooner or later. You don't need me here. You're the backbone of our force. All right, Pistol you may. Goethe can take over your command. Thank you, Demayer. And here's your brother. Come in, armour. I've come to report. What are you doing here, Robert? I'm leaving for Paris at once. Your foolish brother insists on putting his head into the lion's mouth. Armo. Oh, Debt is in Paris. She has not been captured. But if you go to Paris, you'll be recognized. No, I won't. I'll go in disguise. I will make my preparations now. I'll see you before I leave, Armand. Very well. Now, Armand, what is that report you were so anxious to make? Sergeant Picard reports three cases of typhus. Typhus? That's serious. Yes. A far more dangerous foe than the revolutionary armies. Yes. We must set to work to organize medical treatment. Odette. Odette, are you there?
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Robert.
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Odette, my darling.
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Oh, Robert. I hardly knew you in your disguise. But what are you doing in charity? I thought you were with the Maia's army in Brittany.
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And I thought you were safe in Normandy.
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I arrived too late, Robert. Mother.
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I know, my dear, but it's over.
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How goes the mayor's army?
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Well enough, except for a plague of typhus which broke out just before I left. But to business. We must think of a way of getting you out of Paris.
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The passport regulations are so strict, Robert.
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Yes, but there must be a way out. You needn't bother about passports, Citizen Dassault.
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It's a National Guard.
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You won't be needing passports, either of you. You're under arrest. Guillotine me if you will, but at least let my wife go free.
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I will not go without you, Robert.
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You needn't worry about that, Citizeness. You'll stay with your husband. All right. But what harm has my wife done? She is an aristocrat, isn't she? That's enough. So we are grateful to her, I must say.
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Grateful to me?
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You were the bait that lured your husband into the trap. We've been watching this room for the last week, Citizenette. All right, Sergeant, you can take them away to the concierge room. Citizen De Stamp. Citizeness De Stamp, you have been found guilty of conspiracy against the Republic. You are sentenced to die by the guillotine. Long live the Republic. Thank you, Citizen Robespierre. You are Armand de Stamp, former Count de Stamp? Yes. You are a brother of the former Marquis Robert de Stamp, who with his wife was last week condemned to the guillotine? Yes. You have been serving with the counter revolutionary army of the Mayeux in La Vendette? I have. But I came to Paris with a safe conduct from the commander of the Republican army at Le Mans. If I were not aware of that, you would before this have been lodged in the Conciergerie. Why were you granted this safe conduct? Because I have matters to discuss with you which affect the safety of the Republic. Well, when I heard last night that my brother and his wife had been condemned to the guillotine, I was at La Flesche, 120 miles away. You have ridden past and past. I have ridden to save my brother. How do you propose to do that? My brother and his wife do not constitute a real danger to your party. Not in themselves, perhaps. But they are part of a class which is a menace to the Republic. Every member of it must be destroyed. But suppose that for this comparatively harmless pair I were able to give you the most dangerous enemy of the Republic in La Vendette. You don't mean the Mayor? Yes. You mean that the Mayor will offer himself in exchange for them? He will not offer himself. It is I who make the offer. You are a traitor to your own party. The safety of my own brother is more precious to me than your good opinion. But how can the Mayor be delivered to us if he is not willing? If you will meet me on the outskirts of Le Mans tomorrow evening, I will see that the Mayor is there. Suppose I cannot deliver him alive? That is your affair. If the Mayor is delivered to me tomorrow at 9 o', clock, dead or alive, I will release your brother and his wife. And his wife. You must be accompanied by not more than two men. You wish me to be there in person? Your word is known to be Your bond, Citizen Robespierre, but for your subordinates. How do I know that this is not a trap if I am willing to trust the word of a Robespierre? Surely you will not cavil at the word of a d'. Estaing. Very well, Citizen d'. Estaing. With two men, I will have the prisoners at the signpost one mile out of Le Mans on the road to Reims at 9:00 o'clock tomorrow night. At 9:00 clock tomorrow night. You, for your part, must be accompanied by only two men. Very well, Citizen Robespierre. Good day. Good day, Citizen Moutier. Yes, Citizen Robespierre? Tell them to give this citizen a safe conduct to La Vendette. Give this citizen a safe conduct to La Vende. It is a good bargain, Citizen. A harmless pair for that tiger of a Jamaica. The signpost is a quarter of a mile down the road, Citizen Robespierre. Good Moutier, you and Espalion will accompany me and the prisoners. The rest of you will remain here. Very good, citizen. If you hear any sound of a struggle or have reason to suspect any treachery, you will gallop forward immediately. Very well, citizen. Why have we been brought here? Robespierre, you will learn in due course.
C
Do not torture us, Citizen Robespierre. If we've been brought here to be put to death.
A
You have not been brought here to be put to death. Are the prisoners tied to their saddles, Moutier? Yes, citizens. They won't get away. Good, Moutier. I will ride first. You and Espalion will follow with the prisoners. Very well, citizen. Forward. There is the signpost, Citizen Robespierre. Party out. Is that you, d'? Estaing? Yes, Robespierre.
C
Robert. It's Armand.
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Armand have no Pierre Odette, you and Robert will soon be free. Where is the Mayor? He's in this cart. Is he tied up? Yes. Show him to me. Come around the back of the cart. See? There he is. Hold up your lantern, Mutier. Yeah, it's the Maya, all right. He looks a queer color. You had you must have had some difficulty in inducing Citizen de Maille to accompany you. I need hardly tell you that my colleagues in the army would have prevented me from bringing him had they known what was afoot. I dare say he looks as though he's drugged. Did you drug him, d'? Estourne? What does it matter to you whether he's drugged or not? There he is. That is very true. Now carry out your part of the bargain. Robespierre always keeps his word. Cut the prisoners free. Mutier. Very well, citizens. They're free now. Ride on the Star. You have half an hour's grace before any attempt will be made to recapture you. Come, Robert. And you, Odette, ride on. What has happened? Have you exchanged us for Demayer? There's no time for talk. Robespierre might change his mind. Ride on. Ride like the wind. We have gone far enough. Now we can rest in this hut until morning. But Armo, I do not understand. Even to save my life and that of Odette. Surely you would not betray de Mayer to the Republicans? It is simple. You remember that an epidemic of typhus had just begun when you left our camp? Yes. I heard that your Daudette had been sentenced to the guillotine and I was in despair. Then I had an idea.
C
What was it, Armo?
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I rode to Paris and offered to exchange de Meyer for a pair of yours. That's what I don't understand. De Meyer was dead. He had died of the typhus. No wonder Robespierre thought he looked a queer color. I arranged that the exchange should take place at night so that they could not examine him closely. But then you broke your word to Robespierre. I did not break my word. He agreed to accept a major, alive or dead. He has him dead. So long as you feel comfortable about it. Where do we go now? Back to the camp? No, Robert. With the death of de Mailleaux, our army has dispersed. The resistance in La Vende is at an end. Then he is. We make for England and safety in England. We will be able to begin our lives afresh and build up what the revolution has destroyed for us in France. Armand Robert no debt, reached the coast safely and escaped to England in a Breton fishing boat. There they settled down to the happy and useful lives which were impossible for them in the France of that time. This is the story of the 1. As a maintenance supervisor at a manufacturing facility, he knows keeping the line up and running is a top priority. That's why he chooses Grainger. Because when a drive belt gets damaged, Grainger makes it easy to find the exact specs for the replacement product he needs. And next day delivery helps ensure he'll have everything in place and running like clockwork. Call 1-800-granger. Click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done.
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Welcome back. A good story, a clever rose to escape Robespierre. And overall a really nice dramatization of a historic event. I love the power of these short 15 minute programs to bring out these really interesting incidents and never overstay their welcomes, and this is pretty much as good as similar programs from the States. And even though I hadn't heard of this show before stumbling onto it randomly, this is a series I wouldn't mind escaping to again. When I first started the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon, I didn't plan on doing any series in its entirety or the entirety of available episodes. However, we're going to make an exception for one series due to its unique format. Abroad with the Lockharts is about a husband and wife going on a trip to Europe played by a husband and wife who had been to Europe. The series starred the husband and wife acting duo of Jean and Kathleen Lockhart, who are the parents of June Lockhart, best known to many of us as Mrs. Robinson from Lost in Space. The characters have the last name Lockhart, although the husband is named Will, and Mrs. Lockhart's first name is never used. What makes the show noteworthy is when it aired. The earliest air dates for the series were from August 17, 1930. This is one of the earliest radio series we have in existence. One of the newspaper reports indicated that the storyline was based on the Lockhart's own actual experience of traveling to Europe. Of course, before you can get to Europe, you have to decide to leave. I doubt Gene Lockhart needed much prodding. His character Will, on the other hand. That's another story. Let's find out about it. Here is episode one of Abroad with the Lockharts planning a trip to Europe from August 17, 1930.
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Tonight we inaugurate a series of broadcast episodes over this station entitled Abroad with the Lockharts. Mr. And Mrs. Lockhart are the typical American Mr. And Mrs. Who go abroad. Mr. Lockhart is a businessman, comfortable, blunt, knows his own mind, enjoys his business and his community, a plain American businessman. Mrs. Lockhart is the pleasant type of American wife, a thorough housekeeper, belongs to the woman's club and the literary club of her town. And still retains the spirit of romance. Their complex situations, we are certain, will delight the friends of this station each week. The scene tonight is the living room of the Lockharts.
C
Will. Hey, are you busy?
A
I'm reading. I see where Hoover was fishing again last weekend, was he? Yeah, but he didn't catch any. I'll bet he's thinks that fish are almost as stubborn as senators. He can't be using the right bait. Now, when I go fishing this summer.
C
That'S what I want to talk to you about.
A
Fishing? Why, certainly, my dear. Why didn't you say so? Turn off the radio.
C
No, dear, not fishing.
A
What then?
C
I want to talk to you about this summer.
A
Well, this summer means fishing to me, dear.
C
I want to show you something. Here it is.
A
What's this?
C
It's a circular.
A
Circular? About what?
C
A circular about Europe.
A
Oh, so that's it. I. I threw out about 50 of those things last week. They. They were all over the house.
C
I just want you to look at it.
A
Well, leave it here. I'll look at it later on.
C
I want you to look at it now, dear.
A
Oh, well, wear my glasses on your forehead. You know, these circulars are a delusion. They only tell you what they want you to know, not what you ought to know. Now, let's see. Tour Europe with us. Seven glorious countries, 50 wonderful days.
C
Oh, isn't it thrilling, dear?
A
Maybe, but I don't want to go to Europe. I want to go fishing.
C
Do you know what year this is?
A
I do.
C
Well, I don't think you do. This is our 10th anniversary year, and you promised me that you'd give me just what I wanted.
A
Did I?
C
And I want a trip to Europe. Nearly every other woman at our club has been to Europe. And I'm beginning to feel such a frump. And it isn't as if we couldn't afford it. And I want you to take me.
A
Isn't this kind of sudden?
C
Now, I've only mentioned it once a day for the last six months.
A
Oh, but shucks, I. I just thought you were only talking.
C
Read the circular, dear.
A
See?
C
Six days of calm seas and sunny skies.
A
And this A storm?
C
No. Paris.
A
Paris.
C
Paris. The French people call it Paris.
A
Oh, so that's why you've been having this French teacher here every week.
C
Yes, dear. I want to be able to take you around Paris myself. We'll visit the Tuileries.
A
Who Are they?
C
Oh, they're not people, dear. It's a sort of a place with a garden. And then we'll see the invalids.
A
My dear, I don't want to go to Europe to visit invalids.
C
Oh, they're not invalids. That's just their name.
A
What are they, then?
C
Now, that's just why I want you to go. I hear the other women talking about invalids and the goblins.
A
Goblins?
C
They must be those things on the top of the Notre Dame Cathedral. And then there's the mal maison.
A
What's that?
C
Well, in English that means bad house, but it isn't. Then there's the Versailles palace with 400 rooms.
A
Stop right there if you expect me to walk through 400 rooms that trips off.
C
No, dear, we don't have to. We don't have to walk through any of them. And then there's the museums. There's 24 museums in cabinets.
A
Now, listen, my dear, I was in one museum in my life, the Eden Musee in New York, and that was enough for me.
C
Well, dear, we don't have to go into them.
A
I'd rather go fishing.
C
You can fish in the sea.
A
Yes, and catch frogs.
C
Then we can walk through the Latin Quarter, more walking and see all those funny artists.
A
And we don't have to go to Europe to see funny artists. My dear, that fellow you had at your club last week, he was.
C
Oh, then we can go to Switzerland and see the Alps and hear the yodel.
A
But, dear, we've heard yodelers.
C
And then. And then to Italy and go through all those marvelous cathedrals.
A
No cathedrals for me.
C
And in Rome, we'll visit the catacombs.
A
Are they damp?
C
Well, I don't know.
A
Well, no catacombs, anyway.
C
All right, dear, but in Florence we can see all the wonderful tombs of the famous dead people.
A
I'd much rather go fishing.
C
And then we'll visit Venice and ride in gondolas.
A
What do you call them?
C
Gondolas.
A
I thought it was gondolas.
C
Now, that's just why a trip would be good for you, dear. You know how to pronounce all those names.
A
It's much easier to buy a dictionary.
C
Oh, why will you be so obstinate? Can't you see I've set my heart ongoing? I'm tired of hearing other women say, when I was in Paris and when I was in Rome. I tell you, I've made up my mind and I'm going to Europe this summer, even if I have to go alone.
A
Alone?
C
Yes, if I have to.
A
But what Would I do? Who'd look after me?
C
That's your affair. I think after 10 years I deserve the sort of holiday I want and not the sort of holiday you want.
A
Are. Are you in earnest?
C
I was never more in earnest in my life.
A
Well, dear, of course, you know I always want you to have what you want.
C
So I noticed.
A
And if your mind is really made up, it is. Well, I. It's. Well, all right. Of course, I'll have to cancel my fishing trip and see about our reservations on the steamer. Maybe we can't get any.
C
I've already made them.
A
What?
C
I've made reservations for sailing on the same day you were to start your fishing trip.
A
Well, I'll be.
C
And dear, we're going to be in Venice on the night of our 10th anniversary.
A
Are we? Now that. That's sort of nice and poetic like.
C
Oh, I'm so thrilled.
A
But now, just a minute. We've got to have an agreement. If I go to Europe with you, I. I don't want to walk eight miles a day getting educated. And I don't want to see any museums or cathedrals or catacombs or tombs of famous dead ones.
C
No, dear, no. You can do just as you like. You can sit in the car while I see them.
A
Well, that's all right. Of course, there may be one or two of the important places I might like to see.
C
Certainly, dear, just as you like.
A
Well, all right, that's settled.
C
Oh, you're a darling. Here's a kiss for you.
A
Now I'll have to call up Charlie Morris and tell him our fishing trip is off. Lord, he'll be sore. Hello, operator? Main 4, 3, 2, 1. What sort of clothes do we wear?
C
Oh, I have it all planned. You will take your plus fours, your gray suit and your dinner jacket and your dark suit. And I've ordered a tweed traveling suit and a summer dress.
A
Oh, you have?
C
Yes, dear. And the rest? Well, the rest I'll get in Paris.
A
Uh huh. I begin to see. Hello? Hello, Is that you, Charlie? This is Will speaking. Yes. Say, Charlie, about that fishing trip. I'm afraid you'll have to count me out. Count me out? No, I can't go. That's what I said. Well, Charlie, the wife and I are going to Europe. That's right, Europe. Crazy? Not that I know of. Now wait a minute, Charlie. You see, I've been thinking about it for some time. Oh, yes, I have. And I've decided that the wife needs the trip. So I've made up my mind and I have a wonderful little tour planned and everything. Yep. All right, Charlie. Drop me a card if you catch any big ones. Goodbye. There we are, dear.
C
You're the nicest husband a woman ever managed.
A
Well, I guess every husband would be nice if he had a wife like you. Now let me study that circular a bit and see what we're going to get. And turn on the radio, dear Tour Europe with us Seven glorious countries 50 wonderful days. Well, we'll see. Sam Tour Europe with us Seven glorious countries well, you have just started to go abroad with the Lockhart. Next week is sailing day and this typical American Mr. And Mrs. Again will delight us from on shipboard. Be sure to tune in next week at the same hour and enjoy a trip abroad with the Lockharts.
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Welcome back. A good first episode and I have to say the recording is in great shape for being 94 years old. The episode intersperses a few humorous moments with helping us get to know our leads. Will is stubborn and set in his way. His wife is hungry for adventure and romance and will be a bit pushy when she really wants something. Yet they genuinely seem to care for another. We'll have to see on the course of this adventure whether Will is going to get into any catacombs or cathedrals. The timing of this series is incredible intriguing because it started airing less than 10 months after the stock market crash. So this was in the heart of the Great Depression. The Great Depression really hit a lot of people with mass unemployment, mass poverty and a hardscrabble existence for many. I know that in my family I remember the story of my grandfather having to quit school at age 12 to go work carrying railroad ties. If you were listening to radio in 1930, you were probably doing better than many. You owned a radio and you had electricity, though of course you could have been listening at a friend's house, or it could have been playing in a store somewhere. But obviously there was a big atmosphere of gloom and uncertainty over everyone. And while some Americans may have still been going on trips for business or pleasure, doubtless for many this was no longer affordable or practical. Or they just didn't feel secure enough in their business to leave it to go abroad. Abroad with the Lockharts is a sort of series that offered escape from the grim present to some past happy memories and allowed the listeners to take a trip on a luxury line to visit the great cities of Europe. And who knows, maybe better days would come and they'd be able to take that trip in person. But in 1930, most people could just dream there are nine episodes of Abroad with the Lockharts that are in circulation. There are four missing episodes, but given the format of the the series, it's not really a big deal. We will break away from the series for one episode, but other than that we will go straight through the series and we'll also take our summer break at the point that there are lost episodes. So we've got a great trip with the Lockharts and I hope you enjoy the journey ahead. It's time for me to close up the Old Snack Wagon, but don't worry, we'll be back with another serving of Old Time Radio goodness before you know it. If you want to enjoy some of our longer form podcasts, you can feast away at my website@greatdetectives.net your emails are also welcome@adamsnackwagon.net the old time Radio Snack.
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Until next time. Goodbye.
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Date: September 21, 2025
Host: Adam Graham
This episode is a special sampler for Adam Graham's “Old Time Radio Snack Wagon,” a podcast spin-off serving bite-sized old time radio clips and episodes across genres. In this "Snack Wagon Smorgasbord," listeners are treated to four distinct radio selections, each highlighted and contextualized by Adam Graham. The episode is designed for both the nostalgic and curious, providing listeners with a feel for the rich diversity of OTR (Old Time Radio) with shorter, often self-contained pieces perfect for the on-the-go listener.
[01:57–03:43]
“If you are interested in listening to the rest of Abroad with the Lockharts or find some of the episodes that we brought you appealing in this smorgasbord, then please subscribe at snackwagon.net or search for the Old Time Radio Snack Wagon wherever you get your podcast from.”
— Adam Graham (03:20)
[04:09–21:50]
[04:09–06:58]
“It's worth remembering... The Gethsemane Choir, a black congregation in Cleveland that had migrated from the South, provided the music. CBS picked up the series and took it national and it was renamed Wings Over Jordan... The audience crossed racial lines with supporters including First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York City.”
— Adam Graham (04:17)
[06:58–21:50]
“Pharaoh. Pharaoh. To let my people go... From over yond mystic divide comes the assurance and hope that he is an ever present help in trouble and a friend that never fails.”
— Rev. Glenn T. Settle (06:58)
[22:42–25:37]
“This is one of the more intriguing series I’ve come across... the group continued to perform even after it left radio with new members, record deals, satellite choirs, and eventually a celebration chorus that formed in the 1980s.”
— Adam Graham (22:43)
[25:37–41:13]
[22:42–25:37]
[25:55–40:39]
“Why, this stone is worth a king's ransom. And it's mine. Mine. I can buy the world with this. And it only cost me £1,000.”
— Thomas Pitt (30:05)
“You were more jealous of that huge rock stone than a man is ever of a beautiful wife... Is it any wonder that I realized we could never have any happiness together?”
— Marion (34:46)
“From the time the Hindu put it into my hand, that diamond possessed every waking moment of my life... That's what it did for me. And when at last I sold it, all the money in the world couldn't bring back my self respect.”
— Thomas Pitt (36:00)
[41:13–47:45]
[47:45–61:50]
[41:13–47:45]
[47:45–61:50]
“My brother and his wife do not constitute a real danger to your party.... But suppose that for this comparatively harmless pair I were able to give you the most dangerous enemy of the Republic in La Vendette.”
— Armand de Storg (52:41)
[61:50–64:11]
[64:11–77:41]
[61:50–64:11]
“Abroad with the Lockharts is a sort of series that offered escape from the grim present to some past happy memories and allowed the listeners to take a trip on a luxury line to visit the great cities of Europe.”
— Adam Graham (78:37)
[67:37–77:41]
“This summer means fishing to me, dear.”
— Will (68:14)
“What are invalids?” / “They're not invalids. That's just their name.”
— Will and Mrs. Lockhart (70:12)
“I've made reservations for sailing on the same day you were to start your fishing trip.”
— Mrs. Lockhart (73:08)
[78:37–81:43]
On the significance of “Wings Over Jordan” (04:17):
"Yet the audience crossed racial lines with supporters including First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York City." — Adam Graham
On the cost of obsession (“The Pit Diamond,” 36:00):
"From the time the Hindu put it into my hand, that diamond possessed every waking moment of my life... all the money in the world couldn't bring back my self respect." — Thomas Pitt
On convincing a reluctant husband (“Abroad with the Lockharts,” 73:08):
“I've already made them. I've made reservations for sailing on the same day you were to start your fishing trip.” — Mrs. Lockhart
Reflections on escapist radio (78:37):
"Abroad with the Lockharts is a sort of series that offered escape from the grim present... and allowed the listeners to take a trip on a luxury liner to visit the great cities of Europe. And who knows, maybe better days would come and they'd be able to take that trip in person." — Adam Graham
This episode is a robust showcase of OTR's breadth: the grandeur and social impact of choral music in “Wings Over Jordan”; the intrigue and pathos of historical drama in “The Pit Diamond”; taut suspense and cleverness in “Famous Escapes”; and the gentle, comedic look at marital negotiation during the Depression in “Abroad with the Lockharts.” Adam Graham effectively contextualizes each piece with both knowledge and warmth, making this sampler as informative as it is entertaining for new and seasoned old-time radio fans alike.