Saturday Morning Coffee Talk 6/20/26

Summary

The Hunter Williams Podcast
Saturday Morning Coffee Talk 6/20/26
Recorded: June 20, 2026
Host: Hunter Williams
Theme: “Average health is a choice. And it’s the wrong one.”

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Episode Overview

This Saturday Morning Coffee Talk dives deep into hormone optimization, peptides, metabolic health, and practical biohacking for maximal biological leverage. The primary focus this week is an unfiltered, compassionate, and sometimes philosophical discussion about the impact of birth control on teenage and college-aged girls’ long-term health, the landscape of hormone therapy, and life optimization. The hosts respond to a wide array of audience questions, ranging from detailed peptide protocols, testosterone therapy, and thyroid support, to more philosophical points about how lifestyle and societal structures influence health choices.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Birth Control, Hormone Health, and Adolescent Girls

The Dilemma of Birth Control for Young Women [02:35–19:04]

• Listener Question: What are the real-world impacts of putting teenage and college-aged daughters on birth control?
• Discussion:
  • Birth control’s impact extends far beyond pregnancy prevention—it deeply affects hormonal health, fertility, and future disease risk.
  • Many teens are prescribed birth control not for contraception, but for managing painful, irregular periods or acne—often as a substitute for addressing nutrition, lifestyle, and underlying metabolic issues. [07:38]
  • Quote: “What’s happening a lot of times is… instead of balancing hormones, blood sugar, and inflammation, they are using birth control as a band-aid.” — Hunter [07:38]
  • Chronic birth control suppresses natural hormone production and fosters estrogen dominance, increasing risk for fibroids, cysts, cycle irregularities, fertility challenges, and potentially even chronic disease. [06:06]

Copper IUDs, PCOS, and Metabolic Dysfunction [10:17–16:42]

• Copper IUDs: Commonly promoted as “hormone-free,” but chronic copper exposure affects progesterone/testosterone, causes excess estrogen, worsens PMS, and lengthens periods.
  • Quote: “That amount of copper exposure causes your body to become estrogen dominant… it actually pushes you into that luteal phase sooner.” — Taylor [11:18]
• PCOS Connections: The panel hypothesizes some PCOS may be caused or exacerbated by birth control itself, furthering insulin resistance and metabolic disruption.
  • Quote: “A lot of the PCOS is caused by the birth control.” — Taylor [14:05]

Philosophical Reflections on Teenage Sexuality and Parenting [16:42–23:00]

• The hosts advocate for open, nonjudgmental conversations about sexual health, cycles, and future fertility risks with daughters.
• They challenge the status quo that puts all responsibility for contraception and its risks on girls/women and question why male contraception isn’t taken more seriously.
  • Quote: “Why do women have to bear the brunt of birth control versus men…?” — Hunter [16:30]
• If forced to choose, both would rather help raise an unplanned grandchild than see a daughter jeopardize her long-term fertility. [17:43]

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2. Hormone Optimization: Peptides, Testosterone, and Labs

Teenage & Women’s Hormone Health [03:37–06:06]

• Some peptides, such as KPV cream, are considered safe for teenagers, but the broader point is that declining hormone levels in today’s teens—especially boys’ testosterone—reflect larger environmental and lifestyle factors.

Testosterone Therapy and Monitoring [21:51–33:36]

• Getting Testosterone Therapy: Difficult to obtain through insurance except for older men or clear medical needs. Direct-to-consumer HRT clinics are common, but quality and understanding of modern protocols vary.
  • Practical Start: 200 mg/week, divided into three to four shots.
  • Labs and frequent bloodwork are often more profit-driven than clinically necessary due to lack of real-time monitoring tech.
  • Quote: “If you want testosterone, good luck getting it through insurance.” — Hunter [31:37]
• Estradiol (Estrogen) in Men: Many men feel best with moderately high estradiol, and the prevailing myth that estrogen is “bad” for men is debunked. Suppressing estradiol with AIs (aromatase inhibitors) is discouraged except in extreme use cases. [24:35–36:15]

Women’s HRT Protocols [39:57–41:03; 82:31–83:00]

• Best protocol: Testosterone injections, oral progesterone, and (only if needed, based on follow-up labs) estradiol. Never estrogen alone.
  • Quote: “You never want to take estrogen without testosterone… And a lot of cases you don’t need the estradiol, because you get enough out of the testosterone.” — Taylor [40:18]
• Monitor hormone labs—especially progesterone—on cycle days 19–21 for women. [74:43]

Thyroid & Metabolic Optimization [75:21–75:59]

• T3 should ideally be above 3.5 (most feel best between 4–5).
• Recommend desiccated thyroid (esp. for those on HRT), as testosterone increases thyroid demand.

Miscellaneous Compounds for Metabolic Health

• Metformin, Jardiance, Farxiga (now generic and affordable), GLP-1 agonists like Reta/Tersapetide, and various peptides.
• Low-dose protocols can be effective for long-term health/weight maintenance.

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3. Audience Q&A—Protocols, Side Effects, and Troubleshooting

Peptides & Supplements [47:05–72:54]

• Extensive Q&A covers KPV, MOTS-c, SS31 (esp. for fatigue), thyroid and adrenal support, best ways to start GLP-1s, stacking protocols for endurance, fat loss, healing, and much more.
• Uncommon But Powerful Peptides: Cardalax, PEG-MGF, ATX, P21, Carlax, AR290, and others discussed as overlooked tools.
• GLP-1 Heart Rate Issues: Mild long-term use advocated, but higher doses or elevated RHR may require switching compounds.

UTI & Yeast Infections [61:59–63:18]

• Some users experience increased UTIs/yeast on glucose-excreting drugs (e.g., Jardiance). Keep microbiome healthy with pre/probiotics; stay hydrated; KPV and LL-37 may help manage inflammation.

Exercise & Muscle Optimization [63:18–69:10]

• Detailed protocol for building leg/glute definition for women: heavy compound lifts, high-rep/low-weight sets, hip thrusts, abductors/adductors, good mornings, RDLs, sled pushes, and “never lock out” techniques.

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4. Lifestyle, Family, and Society: The Deeper Layer

The Interplay of Marketing, Anxiety & Hormones [19:04–23:00]

• Hunter suggests that the early targeting of young women for birth control/lifestyle drugs is connected to creating future anxious, high-consumption consumers.

Parenting, Sexuality & Family Bonds [50:44–60:17]

• The hosts compare their own teens exploring how parenting styles, household culture, and modeling healthy behaviors keep kids from risky behavior (without rigid restriction).
• Building logical reasoning, consequences, and deep connection with kids are considered essential.
• Favorite parenting tool: a “journal” for mother-daughter communication to foster openness and trust.

Content Creation, Influencer Pressures, and Gender Roles [103:20–108:19]

• Taylor discusses the tension between her audience’s expectations and her personal focus on family-building and artistic fulfillment.
• The hosts reflect on the rarity of genuine expertise vs. influencer marketing, and why the best doctors rarely do social media. The “negative comment trap” for creators and lessons in resilience are explored. [93:46–107:44]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Average health is a choice. And it’s the wrong one.” — Hunter (Main Theme)
• “If I had a teenage daughter… I would rather raise a grandchild than have my daughter go on birth control and affect her fertility.” — Taylor [17:43]
• “Why do women have to bear the brunt of birth control versus, like, men using anabolic compounds to birth control themselves?” — Hunter [16:30]
• “A lot of the PCOS is caused by the birth control.” — Taylor [14:05]
• “If your doctor doesn’t treat you right, find a new doctor.” — Taylor [117:55]
• On influencer negativity: “One out of a thousand people are negative towards you… that one person sticks out more. You start to lose your conviction because you’re listening to that one person. This is a crazy person…” — Hunter [93:46]
• “To sustain the level needed to become a master at something, you have to love it.” — Hunter [108:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---------|-------|-----------| | Start–02:28 | Housekeeping, Audience Demographics | 01:07–02:28 | | 02:28–19:04 | Birth Control, Hormones, Parenting | 02:28–19:04 | | 19:04–23:00 | Societal Influence on Women’s Health | 19:04–23:00 | | 21:51–33:36 | Testosterone Therapy, Insurance, Labs | 21:51–33:36 | | 39:57–41:03 | Women’s HRT | 39:57–41:03 | | 50:44–60:17 | Parenting Styles, Raising Teens | 50:44–60:17 | | 63:18–69:10 | Exercise Advice for Glute/Leg Growth | 63:18–69:10 | | 74:43–75:59 | Hormone Lab Timing for Women | 74:43–75:59 | | 75:21–75:59 | Thyroid Supplementation | 75:21–75:59 | | 93:46–107:44 | Influencer/Content Creation Philosophy | 93:46–107:44 | | 108:19–112:09 | On Mastery, Careers, Content | 108:19–112:09 |

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Additional Resources Mentioned

• Book: The Body Keeps the Score (referenced for trauma-stress/health connection)
• Organizations: Worldlink Medical (Women’s HRT), Function Health, Rhythm Health, Mark Hyman’s Clinic
• Notable Doctors: Lauren Fitzgerald, Neil Rouzier, Sandra Kaufman

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Final Thoughts

This episode captures the spirit of “optimization, not wellness.” It’s a rare, vulnerable take at the intersection of advanced hormone protocols, modern parenting, and the realities of living (and thriving) outside “average health.” The hosts provide a mix of science, practical tips, empathy, and wisdom, making the episode essential for those who want to deeply engage in biohacking for themselves or their families.

Next Episode: Expected after July due to travel and summer holidays.

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Good morning.

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Good Saturday morning, everybody. We hope you are doing amazing wherever you're at, whether you're east coast, west coast or even anywhere else in the world. And before we get going, because I see there's some people coming in and again, I'll make it very fast. If you guys could just let us know if you see and hear us. Okay.

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Yeah.

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So that we're not talking into the wind and then we'll start rocking and rolling. And I know the comments lag a little bit from when we can see them.

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Yeah.

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All right, thank you, Priscilla. Looks like we're good. And Tina. All right, so what do we have to talk about today? Obviously, housekeeping. Go ahead and put your questions in the comments and we'll make sure we get to those today. Yes, we do have a hard stop today at 12, so we sho. We usually get everything done in two hours, but just FYI. Yeah, I know last time we hung out for a little bit longer, which is always cool.

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But we have a hard stop at our faults. We're going on rants.

[A]

Well, yeah, it's Saturdays are for ranting. Yeah, I guess, right?

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I guess. So.

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Anything out there in the peptide universe you've been thinking about? Want to talk about?

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Not in the peptide universe of Becca, probably. What's more so on my mind is birth control.

[A]

Oh.

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It's interesting because some someone in the group asked advice on birth control for their college daughter and just like what our thoughts were around it and how to have those navigate those conversations. So I know this is like probably not. This is like that's on my mind. Well, I think it's very on my mind.

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What's very adjacent. I think you look at someone in college. So that's actually an interesting point we can talk about just to kick things off as people are dropping in their questions that we'll get to.

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Yeah.

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Most of our audience I would say. Well, I know demographically from the analytics is the large chunk probably like 65% are between 40 and 60 years old.

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Yeah.

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Most of those people are going to have kids, teenagers to college age, maybe even young adulthood. And a lot of them we get asked all the time and we don't really talk about it publicly. We get asked all the time about using peptides for teenagers. What's appropriate, what's not appropriate. I think there's very basic things that would be very appropriate. I mean talked about kpv, added the kpv which thank you to everyone who said they love the master classes. That's awesome. That's good feedback for me because I love doing the master classes. The long, like I said, moving towards more long and more boring. But KPV cream, obviously I think it could be appropriate pretty much any age. So peptides more or less. Yeah. There's probably some you wouldn't want to give teenagers, but I think most of them. Yeah, you know, do what you're going to do. We're not going to publicly endorse anything. But I will say when it comes to the hormone conversation, it's really sad because I have seen more and more blood work of kids in their teens, kids in their 20s, especially on the male side, total testosterone's in the like 1/ hundreds and 2/ hundreds, you know, and free testosterone in the tank. And it's really sad because we're kind of in this thing now where a lot of older people, because they weren't exposed to the same environment in youth, have higher testosterone levels naturally than kids in their teens and their 20s now, which used to never be the case. Usually that would've been your peak testosterone production. But I think it's interesting. One thing I don't know you, you would know about more about on the women's side is this whole notion of birth control and the crisis that teenage and 20 year old women are going through right now when it comes to hormone manipulation through birth control versus like what would be the more appropriate things to do?

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Yeah, go ahead.

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No, no, I was just gonna say. So what I guess to that person, let's say this is very common. I know we both get Asked this a lot to the person that has like a 15 year old or even a college age daughter, they want to go on birth control because obviously they probably don't want them to get pregnant. What's that going to do to their hormone state? And then how does that play out maybe 10 years later or 15 years later when they want to get pregnant? Well, even I wouldn't even say like take that out of the equation. Like take the pregnancy part of the equation. Let's just talk about like their overall health down the road because I think it's one of those things that's probably robbing Peter to pay.

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Paul. Yeah, no, I think over, over time I think it's causing issues with, you're going to have issues with just like birth control. I think trying to like not go on a rant this morning. I'm trying really hard.

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Don't. You don't even have to rant because I mean it's a very, let's just approach it more from compassion. What you do better than me, but yeah, I did.

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It's coming from compassion, but I think it's teaching them. What is going to happen to your hormones when you put these synthetic products into your body? Yeah, you already have that going against you just because how much microplastics are now in the world and then you got that. And I think in long term, you know, you're gonna be, you're gonna suppress your natural hormone production. You're gonna cause your body to be estrogen dominant and it's coming from a synthetic version. So then you're gonna have issues of fibroids, cysts, you're gonna have, you know, it's gonna cause you to have more not regular cycles is going to cause the body to not be in its natural flow state. That's going to cause damage. And then, you know, one of the biggest things is that like in the future and you know, I think it's hard for teenagers at that time to think about like, you know, they're not thinking about when they're you know, 30, in their 30s, like and thinking about like life in adulthood and like wanting to start a family because their prefrontal cortex isn't developed yet and they're not worried about that. And I get that because we've all been there, but explaining to them that like what challenges that could bring in the future for reproductive purpose of starting a family, also what that can do to your body, having those synthetic hormones in your body, what that can also do when cause chronic diseases from happening.

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Cynthia Just I'm gonna put the comment on there, I promise we'll get the question. So you just put find most teenagers are getting put on birth control because their periods are painful, heavy, or they have acne and instead of balancing their hormones and blood sugar inflammation, they are using birth control. That's ironic. Yeah, Cynthia, because. Well, maybe not ironic, it's coincidental because we talked to a friend this week that also had something happen with someone in her family that she was telling me. Oh she was actually just telling me that her basically her stepdaughter had really, really bad periods and she was like 14, 15 and wanted to get put on birth control. And then they removed sugar, removed all the excess caffeine remove things and that actually like made her periods a lot better. And so to Cynthia's point, I think what's happening a lot of times is we're trying like you take someone, especially in the case of females and diet, lifestyle, all those things are wrong. And then you have end up having painful periods because they're messing up their hormones because they're not metabolically healthy. You know, like their, their hormones are not optimal. Testosterone, progesterone, estradiol. Even at that age you can naturally optimize your hormones through lifestyle choices. So they don't do that. And then they have bad periods and then they end up getting put on birth control when it's like if they would've just fixed a lot of lifestyle stuff, the bad periods would have gone away and they wouldn't need to put on birth control. I guess that doesn't answer the question about actually using the birth control for the intended purpose of birth control. But I would say there's probably, probably the majority of birth control use actually isn't even for birth control. It's for what people are saying right here, which is like that they have bad periods and I just want to manage the periods.

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And there's also like it's a, I

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guess a win win for them because it's like, oh well, I remember being

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a teenager and telling my mom the same thing and you know what? I was sexually active at the time and she didn't know it. Yeah, she probably. But maybe not all kids are doing that. I was definitely more of a wild teenager. But I think that. Trying to like not go on a rant. Sorry. I think also too one of the things, I think there's ways that you can teach them to go ahead and start as for the female side to really go ahead and start getting in psych with their single like with their cycle, get in tune with their diet, get in tuned with their cycle, testing their ovulation so, you know, when they're ovulating. If we're looking at this for, you know, per, like pregnancy prevention. And then also too, like, what a lot of people don't realize is that those symptoms of heavy menstrual cycles, heavy bleeding, bioidentical progesterone will help that, but

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it will also make them more fertile.

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But it is going to make them more fertile. So you also have that too. But then I think, also I think this is really important, like for, it's important for males too, but especially for women. I think it's really important to like, really be open with your kids and really be honest with them about also the, you know, being respectful to your body. I get it. Kids are, they, I get it. They have hormones, they're dating, things are gonna happen. But like, really making sure you're having those open conversations with them without them feeling judged, but really helping them think about like the energetic exchange of sex. Because that wasn't, that wasn't taught to me. I'm sure if I like went to my mom and was like, have you ever thought about the energetic exchange of sex? And she probably like, what are you? Okay, here we go. But I think that's really important to talk about. And like, just think about, like, if I could go back and like have a conversation with myself at that younger age, it would be different. And you know, I, I see a lot of the, you know, the college age group are now more open to the copper IUDs, but the copper IUDs are not good for you. And that's like the thing that like, I think like, like that's not explained the research on how copper exposure affects your hormone production. Yeah, it causes your body, the copper being. Because I think those copper IDs, I think they can stay in your body up to like five to seven years. So like, that amount of copper exposure after time causes your body to actually become estrogen dominant. Because what happens is, because the copper is actually going to help, like, it's going to affect your progesterone. It actually causes you to become. And your testosterone, it causes you become estrogen dominant. And it actually causes a limber enzyme to not be able to detox estrogen out of the body. And it actually causes women. Because one of the side effects that a lot of women will say, like when they have the copper IDs, is they have more intense periods, they have more intense pms. They have more bleeding, more cramping, and it actually pushes you into that menstrual. It actually causes you to go into that lute of your face sooner because of the copper and how it affects your, your estrogen and your progesterone. So it actually is elevating it to where you're in it like two or three days ahead. And that's also why it's also causing some of those effects, too. I don't need to get into a whole, like, that's like, I need to just make a whole separate video on that. But I think a lot of women don't realize that when they're talking to their doctor about getting this because, you know, it is, you know, it's not talked about. We gather here tonight to bring women

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I think a lot of the PCOS is caused by the birth control.

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Yeah. Like, that's what I think is just like ruining their hormones so that they're less insulin sensitive and then that causes the pcos, which I think if you just went back to it and if you're not on birth control, it's not going to do anything to help prevent pregnancy. But a GLP I think would be way better to help manage probably periods because it's going to help with the inflammation and everything that's driving. Well, I think like a micro dose of a GLP for a girl that is like dealing with that probably will solve a lot of those issues indirectly from bad periods and things like that.

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Well, the copper I do actually causes inflammatic inflammation in the uterus.

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Well, yeah, probably not good.

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No. Yeah, it's not good.

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So.

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So I don't know. That's kind of my. That's my rant. Sorry.

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Yeah, it's. It's really tough for women because we're in this. Like, I was joking with you last night because we were actually Talking about this last night because we. There was. It was like a common theme this week if we talked to a lot of people about birth control. And that's why I love doing the coffee talks, because, like, we'll get these, like, waves of common consciousness things. And I was talking about, like, how male hormone replacement is not full birth control, but there are certain anabolic compounds. And this is just going off of memory, so forgive me if this is, like, not technically a hundred percent accurate, but I know Trestalone, which, the street name is mint, which is a bodybuilding anabolic compound, was actually originally developed for male birth control, or that was one of the uses it was developed for because it was so suppressive of male fertility. And it's kind of funny because if you look at female birth control, it has all of these terrible, terrible, terrible effects on hormone health. And if you look at male birth control through anabolic use, not saying there's not side effects to it, but I think it's way. Basically a male can take anabolics and have an enhanced life, meaning that, like, his life gets better in a lot of cases because he gets more muscle, more confidence and things. And it suppresses his fertility, which, again, you can always usually restore most. In most cases. Uh, but it sucks because it's like we don't talk about male birth control, and it's like, what if we use more anabolic compounds to help men kind of, I guess, artificially suppress fertility. But again, that it's. It's kind of a weird thing because I don't think that'll ever happen. But. No, I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not being. Not trying to be a virtue signaler here. Why do women have to bear the brunt of birth control versus, like, men using anabolic compounds to birth control themselves to basically, like, keep themselves always get.

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The better fertile, the better. Sorry. Yeah, anyway, so long story short, that's kind of what's on my mind. And honestly, if I had a teenage daughter, knowing what I know now, somebody who was on birth control for several years, somebody who now, you know, is struggling with fertility, obviously we know the main struggle is. Is you.

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I wouldn't say it's you. It's more.

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It's you. It's mainly you. But I also didn't ovulate for three years after stopping birth control. So, like, there is there. My hormones were affected by it. I would just. You know what I would do? This is not gonna be Aries cup tea, and everybody might be like, taylor, come talk to me after you have a kid is I would rather, I would rather raise a grandchild than have my daughter go on birth control and affect her fertility in the future. Not going to be everybody's.

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Yeah, I think that's the, that's the weird thing is like, but like I

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would, that's what I would tell her and I would support her. I would raise, raise it and support her if she, while she's trying to build a career in life for herself.

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Yeah. Ideally, obviously she would have a good relationship. Well, no, no, no, no. It's actually a very good point because it makes me think about the financial scarcity that exists in the world today. The reason that people are afraid of that is almost always because of finances.

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Yeah.

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It's not because like, oh, my 17 year old's gonna have a baby, which is crazy because males are a lot less fertile. So it seems like there's a lot less teen pregnancies than there used to be.

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Birth control.

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Yeah, but just, yeah, to, to a point. But I think, yeah, to your point, like if we had a 17 year old daughter, I would be like, oh my goodness, like I don't want you on birth control and if you do happen to get pregnant, I would rather, obviously it would change the trajectory of her life. But knowing if you had like the financial resources to be able to provide for that, that's like your lineage. And it would be, it would, to me that would be, I would be proud to have that. Obviously you'd rather have her with a partner that is going to help raise the child as well. But I think a lot of people fear that primarily because of financial reasons, which is sad that that's the case because for a lot of human history it was an honor and a blessing to have more and more offspring.

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Yeah.

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You know, whereas in today here we are artificially suppressing it and to the point of driving the class of 18 and 20 year old women insane in the process to have anxiety and hormonal disruption and all these issues. What's interesting about that too is if you look at purchasing behavior in the United States, I promise we'll get to the questions after I get off this philosophical soapbox. But if you look at purchasing behavior inside the United States, about 85 is driven by women and primarily women in like the 35 to 60 year old demographic. That's who spends the money in the United States. And so if you look at a lot of brands that start, why do they target this certain aesthetic from a marketing perspective? Well, because they're Trying to appeal to that audience because they know those are the people that buy. Those are the easier people to target with ads to convince them to take out their credit card and buy stuff. And what's interesting about that is the engineering of that starts in their teenage years to capture those consumers 20 years later when they have money to do so. And what's really sad is like this hormonal engineering and stuff is driving anxiety and everything that for call it the powers of b capitalistic structure or whatever is going to harness them for being anxious and basically being in a state to where they feel unfulfilled to have to fill that up with buying things in the future. Because a lot of people, when they don't feel good, what do people do, especially women, they want to buy stuff to kind of not everyone, but a lot of people do that. And so it's interesting, you look at driving anxiety in that younger generation, how that plays out later to when they now have money to do stuff. They're going to be more hooked on trying to buy things that help fulfill a need when a lot of times that's just a thing where they don't feel good or. Yeah, just a, just a hypothesis. But it is interesting because I know from a marketing perspective companies study that they study the behavior of teenage girls because in 20 years they're going to be the consumers that have. They're. I mean a lot of cases they already are. You know, they're using the parents credit card or whatever. But anyway, enough of that.

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It just made me think like, obviously like the hormonal changes. Hormonal changes. I went through this past like throughout all of this and like the fact that like the, yeah, the shopping makes you. Does make you feel better as a

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woman, I think everyone probably.

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I bought a reformer machine. Only been to like two Pilates classes in my life and now I'm like,

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oh, I think a lot of people, former machine, feel better from shopping. Women particularly, like, I don't really get excited when I, I'm so bad about like buying stuff. Like I probably need some more shoes. I just don't buy them some more clothes. Yeah, anyway.

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All right, anyways. Okay, let's question the questions.

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What's up?

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Sh.

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She says if a man is taking low dose estrogen, 1, 2 milligrams per week, is there any negatives he should look out for? Yeah, small testes now. And we're assuming that's okay, Correct. Yeah, I mean the, the testicle size won't be a function of how much estrogen it will really be a function of if he's using HCG and, or HMG and or enclomiphene alongside his testosterone. However, that's not an issue as long as he feels fine. It's interesting for me. So using testosterone without hcg, HMG and clomiphene, which obviously I'm using all of right now, obviously there's more testicular fullness there, but even without it, I wouldn't say it's. It's not for me. It's not to the point that it really bothers me that my balls aren't really big when I'm not using those things.

[B]

I haven't noticed the difference.

[A]

Well, there you go. Yeah.

[B]

And so they don't pay attention to that.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's more of the male thing than the female thing. Yeah, they're more self conscious of it or for whatever reason they like the feeling of having bigger balls, to which I don't. And maybe that's because, like I never had that much shrinkage from being on testosterone anyway, from where I was before. But it's also like if I'm exercising, it actually like is cumbersome. If you're like. I noticed that now because I'm on everything. It's more cumbersome. Like if you're on a bike or exercising or whatever. There's more like rearrangement that has to be done when you have more testicular fullness. But anyway, Shanna, point being is there, in my opinion of the estrogen, long as he feels good, as long as his blood work is good for me, like 1 to 2 milligrams per week. I actually got my blood work done this week and I got some of the tests back. I didn't get my testosterone and stuff back, but I did get my estrad and it was 40.

[B]

You always get your stuff back more faster than me.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know why Quest seems to. We get them done the exact same time and mine always seems to come back earlier, but my estradiol was only 45, which I know the guy's like, oh my goodness, 45. I feel best when mine's like 70 or 80. And so point being is that like, if as long for me, like 1-2mg per week puts me in like that 80ish range, which feels really good. It improves lipids. Like when your estradiol is in an optimal range, it improves lipids. And so I'm not saying that everyone has to take exogenous estrogen, but I do find that it is quite beneficial from an overall mood enhancement standpoint, sexual function standpoint, blood work standpoint. And that comes from a lot of doctors. So that's not me just being, being a bro out there. Neil Rosier, who is kind of one of the godfathers of hormone optimization in the medical field, he takes 8 milligrams of oral estradiol per day. I prefer the injectable because it's obviously more bioavailable, stabler levels. I've never really liked the oral, but I've also talked to other really smart doctors that do the same thing because it improves cardiovascular. If anything, it improves cardiovascular health.

[B]

Do you think that the oral is still. If we're just looking at the cardiovascular health, do you think oral is still better than injectable for cardiovascular health? Because it's, it's more.

[A]

It's hard to say because we don't have, we don't have any data and we probably never. I mean, are you going to be able to run an RCT with injectable estrad men? No, no. No one's ever going to sanction that or approve it or fund it. But. No, but I personally just like how I feel on the oral. I never noticed anything with the. Or, excuse me, the injectable. I never noticed anything on the oral. I like the injectable better. There's more of a mood enhancement standpoint. And again, even if this is just like half a milligram or one milligram a week that a guy injects, even if it's just one time, like estradiol siponate, one time, one milligram per week, just seems like there's a lot of health benefits to do that now for me. I'm not using that right now. I probably could, to be honest. I'm not using that right now because I'm on hcg, FSH and enclomiphene, which is funny because I'm on all of those. On my. I still am not aromatizing that much, which probably has to do with just body fat levels and everything, but. Well, someone might say it's like aromatizing a lot if my Estrad is 45. But my philosophy would be like, I'd like that number closer in the 70s or 80s. Again, it's, it's not like a health risk that it's at 45, but it would be a health risk to me if it was like 15 for sure. Whereas a lot of guys will artificially suppress it. But yeah, I don't see any negatives for that. Obviously, the. The Esther dial's not gonna do anything to help with testicular fullness if you're on testosterone, but it will enhance mood, in my opinion. And a lot of guys will feel better, especially if he's very fit and lean, because they tend. Guys like that tend to aromatize less. Thank you, Cynthia. Good to know the master classes are doing well. And thank you for all the people that watch on Spotify. I know we're on YouTube. I wish we could live stream on Spotify, but Spotify, I think, is doing a really good job. I know I personally have migrated more to listening to things like if I'm listening to podcasts or whatever through Spotify rather than YouTube. Doesn't help that I'm not actually allowed to have a YouTube account, even though I'm. I'm streaming on YouTube right now. I have to do that through, like a separate IP address that is not anywhere near where I live and not connected to my phone or what am I telling myself? Yeah, it's going to happen anyway. So are they listening? I mean, they're probably always listening, listening. What's up? Zionic in the house. Good to see you. Sean in the house. What's up, dude? Yeah, should have said my 24 year old, still on the IUD. It makes me nervous, but so does getting pregnant. Yeah, well, that's the. The catch. 22.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Here's a good question. Why do companies and doctors want you to have your blood tested so often when you're on peptides? Because they make money when you are getting your blood test done. I mean, obviously it'd be one of those things. It would be cool if you could just wake up every day and there was an app on your phone that somehow told you your blood work, like every day. You could just, like, kind of monitor it. Obviously that would be something would be invasive to have to do that.

[B]

Yeah. I'm sure at some point they'll make something like that.

[A]

Yeah. To where you can just do like a. Well, that was the whole Theranos thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With Elizabeth Holmes. Like, you do a finger prick and it'll tell you all these things about you. That was a scam, obviously.

[B]

That would be really cool if it wasn't a scam, though, how, like, great that would be for, like, for like fertility.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And how great that would be for like, pregnant women. Like, they could just test their hcg, like, once they found out they're pregnant, like every week to make sure the levels are going up properly, like, or just like being able to like know, like if you want to adjust your HRT like where your levels are.

[A]

Do you think it would have a.

[B]

Can we make this happen?

[A]

Well, there is. The closest thing we have right now is like Rhythm Health.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Has the little things you just slap on your arm and I think it's like a monthly subscription and so you just get one every month done. So you just like pop it on. You don't even have to like put it into a vein. You just pop it on your shoulder. It like takes the blood out into the device and then you mail it in and they send it to you once a month. And I think it's a subscription. It's like 100 bucks a month or something like that.

[B]

What's his faces company? Who is that? Mark Hyman's company?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

I think he has another blood work company.

[A]

Yeah, you. There's probably ways too.

[B]

There's another one.

[A]

Influencers.

[B]

We were talking about it.

[A]

Yeah. And then I think there's Function Health. I don't know if Function Health has the little devices like Rhythm does. Yeah, I mean they're all like influencer white label things too that they just white label for influencers to do. But um, yeah, it would, it would be cool. But I think probably too if we did have a daily thing, it would almost be like a curse too because people would become so obsessed with like tracking it every day. They just wouldn't like chill out, you know. So let's see. ZX says literally just ordered 10mg KPB to help fix all background checks and support during the cut retta running at 3 milligrams. It's very good for that. Love KPB. See, Donnie says I take 500 micrograms mat C to motivate for physical job. But I do feel fatigue midweek from being high energy. Can methylene blue stacked help prevent that? I mean, maybe. I don't know. I'm not the biggest fan of methylene boost specifically just for energy purposes. What I would probably do, donnie, is introduce SS31 at the same time as your MOT C. And what I think that will help do is because matc this is just my theory. We don't have a lot of data to support this. But what I've seen is a lot of people have been getting fatigue from Mot C and so I like. Obviously I like using SS31 before I use Mat C. But what I like to do now is use SS31 maybe in the at the same time as MAT C and actually do that together. And that seems to help a lot of people with the fatigue for MOD C. Kind of similar. I think it's similar, although it's a different mechanism to what's happening with SLU PP332. So that would be my recommendation. Speaking of which, I forgot the first question. Devin says, are you able to speak on S PP915? I'm not. Other than the fact that in the data it actually improves cardiac tissue more than SL slupp332. I think there are some companies that are selling it now, but I have not personally used it, so I can't really say whether or not it's better or worse. And now I lost my place. So let me get back to my place. Apologies. There we go. Donnie also asked what is the best way to start testosterone. My last doctor was so out of loop, he didn't even know what peptides are to totally against testosterone and are totally against testosterone. Like to use insurance. Well, I hate to break it to you, Donnie, in almost no cases will you ever be able to use insurance to get testosterone. Which is unfortunate. And so I would say just. And this is a public service announce for everyone, if you want testosterone, good luck getting it through insurance because it's not really going to happen.

[B]

I've heard some insurance will cover it for males in their 60s and 70s.

[A]

You're probably more likely to get it done.

[B]

Yeah, but it's still very rare. Not. It's like a few people I've heard that from.

[A]

Well, you know, it's ironic because if you look at someone like me, you could make the case, I had head trauma, my testosterone is going to just be low. If I'm not on testosterone, how could that not be covered through insurance? Like, if that's a condition that I have, how could that not be covered through insurance? But again, I know it's just walking healthy. I know. But anyway, best way to start testosterone, find a good doctor, which I'll have a solution for very soon to like where I can send everyone to find a good doctor. Obviously, if you know me or in my private group, I can recommend one to you right away. But I think the easiest way for a guy, I'm assuming Donnie is a guy, 200 milligrams of testosterone per week, break it up into three shots. 65 milligrams three times per week, 1550 milligrams four times per week. Boom, you're on your way. For most guys, that's all they need to get going. And then Obviously there's like nuances of stuff too.

[B]

It's like how long will like a 250 milligram bio of testosterone typically last

[A]

if you're doing 200 milligrams per week? Well, let's do it. It's usually 10 MLS. And so if you have 250 you have 10 MLS, you would be using I guess 0.8 per week. The if it's 200 milligrams per milliliter and it's 10 miles, it will last 10 weeks. And so I guess that would be if it's 250, which that's coming from underground sources. Pharma grade is going to be usually 200. Underground is going to be 2 50. But if it's 250 and are doing 200, probably about 12 to 14 weeks.

[B]

And how much do you pay from the HRT clinic for testosterone?

[A]

I mean at the bottom barrel, bargain price, about 200amonth. 150 to 200 per month.

[B]

With everything around, it's like what, like 7 80?

[A]

Yeah, it'd probably come out to like 60 or 70 for the testosterone. And so I mean there, there is cost savings there, but you also got to know what you're doing. Yeah, no, most people won't do the work necessary to understand that. And even then there's still the inherent risk of like, even if you have a good supplier, it's always, it's always more of a crapshoot with that. Whereas at least with the testosterone. That's why I have a prescription for it, because you know what you're getting most of the time. Devin says, I'm on a thousand IUs of HCG. Lifelong natty testosterone came back at 9:40. Still waiting on ultra sensitive estradiol. If elevated, would you suggest an AI? Any downsides on Naya, on dem, calcium glucorate? I would never suggest an AI, Devin. I would never take an AI. I would also probably understand that even though your Testosterone is at 940, it's likely the free testosterone is probably likely not that much higher than it would be if you were natural. And so even though the total testosterone has raised, I'm not here to tell you what to do. You got to decide what you're going to do for yourself. But I would highly, highly, highly and strongly, strongly, strongly recommend that you never use an aromatase inhibitor. To go back to what I was talking about earlier about actually supplementing with estradiol. Suppressing estradiol has so many negative effects. You talk about sexual function, you talk about cardiovascular health. Talk about brain health. Suppressing estradiol is going to impair all of those things. And so would you get away with it for a month? Yeah, you'd probably be fine for a month. But long term, it is never the answer. And you have to also understand, too, that, I mean, hopefully more people are becoming aware of this. You want estradiol to confer to a level of testosterone that is protective. And so if your testosterone goes up, your estradiol should also go up proportionately with the testosterone, so we don't raise testosterone. And then all of a sudden, if the estradiol goes up, go, oh, my goodness, now I gotta suppress estrogen. The estradiol came up because it is protecting your heart and protecting your brain and protecting your vascular networks and everything. And so I would throw the. The dim in the class in the trash, too. I would throw the calcium D glucarate in the trash, too. Those are not things that you need if you are healthy. If you are a healthy man, you exercise, you're healthy body fat levels. You do not need those things. Your body will metabolize the proper amount of estrogen. Are there genetic outliers in which sometimes it can be something that you have to. You have to, like, potentially look at? Yeah, maybe. But in almost all cases, you never need those things. And so it seems like the market is, like, starting to understand that. But unfortunately, there's still a lot of bad information out there. And for Pete's sake, if you're just on HCG as well, then you definitely don't need it if you're on hcg.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whereas, like, I mean, the only time I think you could make an argument if the guy was, like, on three grams of testosterone and his estradiol was through the roof. But even then, I would still say the estradiol is going up to be protective to the level of testosterone that is now there. And so I never recommend it for that reason. Yeah. Wit says biggest regret for my wife was birth control meds.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thyroidectomy, endometriosis, and breast cancer. Yeah. It is not good. What do you suggest dose for jardiance? I do 500 milligrams of metformin. Can I add Jardians in the morning and how much? You sure can. I would just start with, you do 10 or 12. 10 milligrams or 12 and a half milligrams. Usually 25 milligram tabs. I don't. I've gone back and forth. Like, I don't think that 25 milligrams for me is superior to 12 and a half milligrams.

[B]

No, I think if you're leaner. If you're a leaner person, you're using it more for, like, optimization. I think the 12 milligrams is better.

[A]

Yeah. So I just. If I'm using guardians, I just break.

[B]

Do you have like a higher percentage of body fat?

[A]

Probably better. High blood pressure, things like that. It's probably better to do 25 milligrams. We've been doing. So what's interesting now is we've been doing Fara, which is Daglaflozin, because that is now a generic. So we got a prescription for that and you can go on Trump Rx now and get a coupon. You can actually get it the. The name brand Farca through AstraZeneca for 30 bucks a month. But you can also get the generic Topaglaflosen, which is not the name brand, from your local pharmacy like Publix or CVS or Walgreens. And you can get that for like 15 bucks a month with the Trump Rx coupon. Yeah. And so if you go to your doctor and say you want a prescription for it, which, you know, some doctors may be totally fine with it, some won't, but you can get it for pretty cheap. Now, the reason I say that is because we got the one from AstraZeneca and it just. They're so backed up right now because it became a generic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That they're the only pharmacy that's fulfilling the. Obviously because they're the. The name brand version. AstraZeneca makes Farsiga and so they're just so backed up right now. It's taking a while for people to get theirs. But the good thing is.

[B]

And they have to call you, that's the thing too. It's like not like a normal prescription where you just like your provider just sends it in. They send it in and then they. You have to wait for them to call you, which you're going to get a call from unknown number. So you need to answer it because you can't call them. Because you try to call them. You're on hold for like 20 minutes. And I asked them. Finally when I answered the phone, I was like, every time I need a prescription refill, do I have to go through the same process? And she's. The lady told me, yes. She's like, you have to go through the same process. So be sure to answer the phone when we me call. If you try to call us, you're not going to get through just because we're so backed up. So that's the other thing too, that it is kind of a pain because you have to wait for them to basically reach out to you.

[A]

I will likely be transitioning to the generic. So we.

[B]

Because that part isn't.

[A]

So I can drive to.

[B]

It took them a month to call you. It didn't take them as long to call me.

[A]

You got yours like a month before I got mine.

[B]

I wonder if it's because my last name. My legal last name.

[A]

Probably. Yeah. Before it's been changed because it still says Ashburn on there. But now we can just go. I'm gonna get the doctor to change it to be the one where we can pick up locally that they can just call it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And just go to Harris Eater and get it. So. Jardians, however, is not generic. And so that's like 600 bucks a month if you want that. I think Farsega is probably just as good. Maybe Jardians has a slight edge, but

[B]

yeah, I think for people that are using it for optimization.

[A]

Yeah. For people that are already healthy.

[B]

Healthy. I think it's perfectly fine.

[A]

Donnie says are the online labs, then consult online doctor and get script. Okay. Problems? I'm a newbie and don't feel smart enough. I mean, it just depends on the one, man. Like, some are good, some are bad. Yeah, just depends on the one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Kit says I use estradiol patch and the progesterone cream. And it's helped my hot flashes. They were so bad it messed up my sleep. Are the drawbacks to using those instead of injections? Well, I'd say the one drawback that I see there is that you're not on testosterone kit. And so that's the main drawback is that criminal malpractice that a doctor would just give you estradiol. Progesterone without testosterone. Yeah.

[B]

You never want to take estrogen without testosterone.

[A]

You never want to take estradiol without progesterone. Yes, some people do that. But I will say I think here would be to make this an easy answer, here would be my recommendation. This is not the gospel you to do what works for you for a woman. Testosterone injections, progesterone, oral, micronized, and if needed after she gets used to the testosterone.

[B]

Used to as in like 90 to 100 days minimum.

[A]

Yeah, it give it three months. See how you aromatize the testosterone and if needed then you can add in estrad. My preference would be injections, but I think if Depending on the person you can use oral, whatever I don't like.

[B]

A lot of doctors aren't going to give yeah the injection. So I would say oral.

[A]

Probably orals would be my opinion of what would be better. I don't like the patches as much but. But a lot of, a lot of cases you don't need the estradiol because you get enough estradiol out of the testosterone.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Could be better. Yeah but I think a lot of them don't need it. SC through. What's up Jim? Good to see you in the house. He says what peptide can you still not believe hasn't blown up more and becoming more popular. That's a good one. My initial knee jerk reaction is Cardalax and Carax is. I think it beats BPC and TP500 for healing. Obviously you can use all of them together pound for pound. Carlac heals better than BPC and TB500. Obviously you would just use them all because you can use them all together. I still think TB500 would you say it's superior? I guess it depends on.

[B]

It depends on what you're trying to heal. I think too I got the most relief with when I was dealing with the planar fasciitis stuff and the inflammation in my foot. The most relief from using 2mg a day of TB500.

[A]

Yeah I think yeah to your point personal preference and also nature of the injury. Carlax would be one Trying to think of what other peptide no one knows about that is amazing. Not a peptide. Atx. We always talk about how good ATX is just so good. There was a phase, I think a phase 1B or phase 2 trial that just came out.

[B]

Atx777 yeah MK.

[A]

I was using that this week and I I wanted to test my IGF as well to see how my IGF was on MK 777 vs 2 I use of growth so I'll see how that comes back cause I haven't got it back yet but MK 777 is good but I understand that because there's not really any data on it and so it's like you might just be taking a sugar pill for all we know. Although I anecdotally speaking it works really well. PEG MGF is another one for healing and recovery because it helps with localized IGF pre production production and also too it's good to inject in your muscles after a workout just to help with recovery after a workout. What else out there? Think of like any of the injectable bioregulators that would be cool that people don't know about. Von is a good one. P21 another one I really like P21. We've been doing a nasal spray of P21 and that one is fantastic. Yeah, I love that. I think so many people just default to cerebral ice and cerebral ice is good but I just love P21 as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Trying to think of anything else. Yeah I'd probably say those. Anything else you think? Because like most of the ones obviously everyone knows GLPs and stuff. Yeah, if I had one my knee jerk would be Carl Ax. What's up Sean? He says I believe my girlfriend is watching. She's 53, low energy, worn out from work PMOs. Oh I think that's the new name for PCOS. Yeah. Trying to tell her to get on HRT and peptides can talk about the miss benefits and tell her it's safe. Well here's what I would say. Obviously there's the myth that like HRT causes cancer from the death whi completely debunked. Studies have been redacted so you can look that up. Type into Google if you want whi false study and that will come up. So we know HRT is not causing cancer. Now we look at the benefits of it especially for a woman that's 53 obviously sounds like a prime candidate for testosterone placement Progesterone and potentially estradiol depending on her state of menopause. Yeah Perry postmenopause. But I will say it is obviously safe in terms of the myths it's hard because I off the top of my head obviously the the WHI thing causes cancer. That's a myth. Women need testost women don't need testosterone obviously that's a myth. They have way more testosterone than they do estrad.

[B]

Well I think also too one of the myths with like P with PS and PCOS is that they think that it's estrogen do or testosterone dominant and it's actually insulin resistance which we nano which is why it was one of the reasons it's been renamed but also one of the things that could be happening too is that it can also a lot of times people that are have lutear phase defect or low progesterone will have the same symptoms as pmos pcos and a lot of that actually can be fixed with progesterone and it can also actually be fixed with testosterone cuz it's not really being testosterone dominant is really insulin resistance issue.

[A]

Yeah yeah. As far as the benefits I mean, everything that she suffers from right now will get fixed.

[B]

And also desiccated thyroid will help.

[A]

Yeah, will be massive.

[B]

Will help so much with low energy,

[A]

basically for men and women, she'll have more energy, she'll sleep better, have better sex drive, better mood, you name it. And I think in the context of couples, we talk about this all the time. If one person's doing the other person's not, there is usually gonna be a divergence there because the one person's gonna usually they're doing things right, feel really good and the other person's not. Echo Ask oral supplement ideas for an insulin for as insulin jacked up, obese begins fitness journey. TMG, dihydro berberine, alar NAC, CoQ10 uran A0 zinc ala, creatine, CDB, choline. I like all those. I would say for an insulin jacked up, if you had oral, I guess these would be more pharmaceutical slash peptides. The easy thing to do if you didn't want to inject anything you could do or forgal for your GLP you could do which does work well. It's not gonna be red at True Tide obviously, but it does work well. Or forgal Prime Jardiance and atx.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then if you have the metformin or he's got the dihydro berberine and so I would say metformin as well, but all those things would be non injectable version on top of the list you have there, which is a very good list that would work well.

[B]

There's also now options for nasal spray glps.

[A]

Yeah, there, there are. I tried it and I think it was exenatide, which is a really old glp.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I did do a nasal spray of that and it did work. It works for like three hours. And so it's not like a retit that you do once per week, but it does, I would say specifically for the appetite suppression aspect. I did get a benefit of like, oh wow. I feel like a very acute sensation of the appetite suppression. More so than just being on the lower dose of retide that I'm on right now. Copper competes with zinc as well. Zinc is critical for healthy ovulation and progesterone production. So copper zinc imbalance can indirectly affect. Affect hormonal balance. Very true, very true, very true. Echo says. Are you working with local clients and groups to advise them on fitness and optimization? I'm finding people want me to walk them into new cycles in person and put a schedule on their fridge. We Are not. But I recommend everyone watching this show probably has enough knowledge to go out and do that. And there's an opportunity to do that. Because Peptides are so mainstream right now.

[B]

We don't have like a big, like we don't have like a local following. I mean if we do, we don't know that we have a local following. Like I know and I know there's some people that are, that are local in the area that watch us. But like I guess because we don't do anything local like in the community, we don't really know how many people that are actually like in our local area.

[A]

Conversely, I don't know how many local people know that we even know where we are.

[B]

I think like we've only had one. We've had like two people stop us locally. Locally, ever.

[A]

Yeah. Then there's people you don't know if they don't stop you because they don't want to bother you too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Considering using Jardians for its longevity benefits. I'm 50 years old, low body fat, great body composition, fasting in some below three, and I eat low carb. Would it be dangerous using it on low carb diets? I don't know as much about if it's dangerous using on low carb diets. I would just ask why do you feel. I mean, obviously it sounds like you're very healthy. I would say like what would be the fear of carbohydrates? Because if used properly I think they can be very beneficial. But I don't see it necessarily being. And again, I'm just quoting off of memory, so this just don't think this is gospel or truth. But I don't say that would necessarily be harmful. But I don't also know that it would be beneficial to add in if you're already doing low carb. What I think the Jardian says is it allows you to utilize carbohydrates in a more efficient manner to get the benefits without the downsides. Much like do GLPs. Because when we talk about carbohydrates, the reason I think they're so important is for the long term we know muscle is gonna be really good to have for longevity. You need carbohydrates to fuel, maintain and grow muscle in most cases. I know there's like the arguments out there which I, I avoid getting into about that. Cause I don't really care what people eat. And like if you wanna eat whatever, like if you wanna eat low carb, that's fine, but I don't See the downside to it if you are low carb. But obviously I would do your own research, I guess to the pregnancy question. What do you recommend for what would you do tailored to prevent pregnancy when you have 18 daughter which might be us one day. Yeah.

[B]

Again like, I mean I'm gonna, I

[A]

mean I know I'm gonna lock her in a cage.

[B]

Yeah. Chastity belt. No, I'm just kidding.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I know I will probably like I, I. Look, I know there's a lot of times I'm gonna eat my words. But like what I would do is again like tracking her cycle keeping like attracting like aura ring something could also help track to body temperature. Tracking ovulation, it, you know, explaining to her what's going on. Also like, look, I know teenagers are going to do things and sneak and do things, but also like be active in their life and knowing whether they're sexually active or not. And like this is why I think you just need to really put your kids in sports and really like have them in sports and keeping them busy. So they're not. Was probably my problem as a teenager. Like I didn't keep myself, I wasn't keeping myself busy with healthy things. So I was, you know, doing not the prop, not the, the right things I should have been doing at that time, but keeping them busy and like being active in their life and knowing what's going on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean I can't control. They go to a party and they, you know, they go to a party that you don't know they're going to a party. They think, you know, you think like they're just going to like Becky's house and really they're at, you know, a party and there's drinking, there's alcohol. Like, you know, you have that risk. But it's like I think having that open dialogue and really educating them.

[A]

Tayona had such different teenage experiences. Obviously. I was raising a house with all boys. I was the oldest of four boys. I was, I was like a raise

[B]

in very different like moral. Moral. I was, my parents were hippies. So like, yeah, I was. You were raised in a very like

[A]

evangelical Christian household, which I am very

[B]

glad that was until I met you. Like what. Yeah. Form of Christianity meant basically.

[A]

I mean it's just kind of like. Well yeah, it's like I would guess it's a rooted in Southern Baptist because it would be more non denominational Christianity, which is very popular now because most a lot of Christian churches are more non denominational. But I'm very Glad with that. I was actually in high school. Just my personality. I was kind of. I. I was not sexually active as a teenager whatsoever. All I cared about was sports and, like, dominating sports and getting good grades. I didn't party, if any. Like, my fun things were, like, playing video games and lifting weights and playing sports.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so it's hard for me to relate to that. And when we have children, it's kind of one of those things, like, you don't realize how good your parents are until you're, like, older. It's like, I think about all the time, like, what did my parents do for me that, like, created the environment to, like, where I didn't even want those things? Because when I was a high schooler, I literally remember one time I went to a party in high school, and I never went to parties and, like, everyone, like, stuff and cheered because, like, I never went to parties, and I just went. And I wasn't even drinking or anything. But it just wasn't my scene. I just have never cared about that. Like, I'm so much more comfortable, like, being at home, like, doing whatever, watching movies, like, not partying. But I realized, like, when we have kids and they're that age, what. I guess what I'm saying is I want to build in reason and logic into my children so that they don't feel restricted. Because my parents never told me, hey, you can't go to a party.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just didn't want to. Like, I just didn't want. Like, it wasn't my thing. And they were like, you should go to a party if you want to. To expose yourself to it. Whereas you were, like, much more restricted. Which is kind of funny because, like, I. You would say, like, I had more of, like, a religious upbringing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But my parents weren't restrictive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whereas your parents were not religious, but they were more restrictive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What you're doing, which I understand, because you have a daughter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, you want to be, like, more protective over her when you're a

[B]

father who's a recovering alcoholic. Like.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So growing up, it was always in, like. I mean, I'm not. I'm like, I have great parents, but growing up, it was just like, I want to go out. Like, okay, are you gonna drink? Don't drink. Your dad's an alcoholic. Like, that's hereditary. Like, don't you know you can't drink because your dad's an alcoholic. Is recovering alcoholic. So it's like. Or if. It's like, if you drink, just call us and we'll come get you. Which they did. Sometimes they definitely, like, I definitely did do that.

[A]

You obviously rather that happen than yes. Them to drive or. Like, that's what I want. Our future kids always know. It's like, no.

[B]

I remember thinking and, like, rolling my eyes in my head being like, oh, my God. And then like, of course I'm gonna drink. Like, and I think it's just like, I don't know. Also was like seven and eight years younger, so, like, I also had older sisters. I saw them.

[A]

Yeah. Whereas I was the oldest. Doing more things, I think, with what was.

[B]

And I didn't even know. Like, you know, growing up, I thought the Serenity prayer was something from the Bible. I didn't know that because my dad would always say the Serenity prayer. Like, because again, he had three daughters. And I love my mom, but my mom is, like, very chatty. So he had three daughters plus my mom. Like, there's so many times, like, we were just allowed and would just, like, drive my dad nuts. Like, there's times I look back and I'm like, I do feel bad for him because I is like, we were all just louder. We're all fighting with each other and just being girls. And like, he would just start saying the Serenity prayer. And I thought that was part of the Bible until you told me that it wasn't all these years later.

[A]

Well, what I appreciate is that at a very young age, and I didn't realize when I was younger and also

[B]

DO A meetings took place in churches. So that's probably why I also thought that

[A]

when I was younger, I developed at a young age of knowing consequences, which I think, again, what my parents were so skilled at doing is I understood a very young age if I drink, that is going to cause consequences in my life also, too. Alcohol was not. Which I know it wasn't in yours because your dad was, like, sober. We just. It wasn't normal to me. Like, my parents didn't drink and so

[B]

mom would have, like, well, yeah, even

[A]

that versus Versus, like, my parents didn't ever drink. Like, it wasn't normal. Like, what was normal in my house was you work hard, you do well at things, and that's like, the expectation and that's normal. And you can have fun through, like, doing things, but you don't have to party to do so. And so for me, it was just like, never. Even when I went to college and had the opportunity to drink and stuff and drink a few times or whatever, it was just like, it just doesn't really, like, vibe with me, but I guess, long story, short point being is for our future kids, what I want to do is instill in them a more moral compass to where they understand the consequences of their actions. They don't feel restricted, but they know if they're going to do something that this is a potential consequence for that. Just like they know if they're lazy, then they're going to get fat.

[B]

I think it's also, like, not leaving them alone to have those opportunities happen.

[A]

Yeah, we talk about that, too, of, like, keeping them engaged. Like, how do some parents lose their children from feeling, like, disconnected with them, you know? And every child is going to be different. Like, how do you keep a relationship with them? And obviously when they become teenagers, they're not going to want to. Like, they're going to want to do their own thing and be away from you and stuff. But it's like, how do you still keep a connection with them where they feel like they can come to you and talk to you? Because I always felt like that with my parents, you know, like, I didn't feel like there was anything I couldn't talk to them about.

[B]

Yeah, I always go back to my client, one of my old hair clients, who I just think she did, like, a really good job with her kids, which they're like one's in college now. I think one's maybe in middle school. But, like, I remember her telling me with her teenage daughter, like, they had a journal. I probably haven't mentioned this before. I don't know. They had a journal, and they basically would use it, like, if there was a topic that, like, they wanted to talk about, like, I want to wear mascara. And they're like, 12. Okay. Like, she would have to. Like, they would write back and forth in the journal and then, like, unless it was something like, life, like, threatening and major, like, the daughter had to be the one to bring up when she was ready to. To talk to the mom in person. And I think that has. I think that made a big impact because knowing them and seeing this. This girl, like, grow up from, like, a child to, like, a teenager who now, like, is in college playing soccer and, you know, seeing that and, like, hearing, like, her interactions, like, with guys and stuff, I just, like, will always remember that hair client and just, like, how good of it. Like, she just was such an amazing mom and she's so. I will always remember that. And I think that journal helped a lot.

[A]

Did she have a good father?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Well, I think a lot of that

[B]

I would say like I would say I never met the father. But the stories, like I would definitely say like the mom was probably more of the tougher love one. Like she was. She was a daddy's girl. She knows she could go to her dad and get like.

[A]

Well, I think that's usually. Usually how.

[B]

Which is usually how. Yeah, how it goes. But no, I would say she had a. A very active. Like her husband was very active and very involved, especially when it came to the sports.

[A]

Well, I think what that light behind you turned off and it's plugged in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I wonder if it came unplugged. Sorry. Anyway, Taylor would be without backlighting. Yeah. I think when it comes to that, especially for a daughter, you want them to instill a sense of what a strong male is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so they have a very sense of security so that. That weak males. And that doesn't have to mean that they're beta, but that means that they're could be like abusive or whatever. They don't tolerate that type of behavior because they have a strong male influence at home. Moving along.

[B]

Yeah, sorry guys.

[A]

Rusty says I want to inject BPC on my shoulder. Will it be okay to use the pen with form millimeter needle and do I need to pinch it or just put it straight in? Yeah, I would say for a 4 millimeter that's totally fine. You probably don't need to pinch the skin though if it's that small. If it was a larger 516 inch insulin needle, it's fine. But if you have a pin 4 millimeter I would just do it right into it because for most people that'll be fine. John says, love, how are your pro life without actually saying it? See how I do that? Should have been a politician or a lawyer. Taylor tells me all the time you

[B]

just argue like a lawyer.

[A]

I did kind of want to go to law school at one point, but I didn't want to be a lawyer. I would have gone to law school because of the enjoyment of going to law school. And then I would have not been a lawyer, which would have been a waste to go to law school and not be a lawyer. But anyway, I still think it would be fun to go to law school. Started jardiance, lowered my A1C. Loved it. But I did get a yeast infection. I've never had one before in my life. Any recommendations conditions to prevent that? I'm uncircumcised male. Unfortunately that is common. Not common. It is a un. Like less than rare or more than rare side effect. Of jardiance. Unfortunately for that. I think it's one of those things that you just have to be very cautious of the microbiome environment in the body because I know some people, I think get UTIs and things on jardiance and so so.

[B]

But yeast, though, I just don't know

[A]

enough about it and I don't want to speak to that. I think it, it would be beneficial to have things like KPV and LL37.

[B]

Oh, I think you're taking. I mean, for me, like, I think of yeast being more of a microbiome thing like in gut. So I would say like a good pre. Prebiotic and probiotic.

[A]

I think those would be helpful as well. I'm not going to say it's going to cure it, but to my. And this is just me again going off of memory. So forgive me if this is wrong, but because of the extra excretion of glucose through the urine, I think it increases the likelihood for that. I've never dealt with it or anything like that, but I know it's not uncommon. It's not like super rare for it to happen in some people. And I don't know if circumcision affects that. I'm sure it probably has a little bit of an effect because I think people that are uncircumcised do have a little bit more of an issue with that. I don't. Again, I don't know, but it's just my guess. But yeah, I would say just trying to keep the, the environment itself, prebiotics, probiotics, and then potentially something like a KPV to just manage inflammation that would keep that from flaring up. Cynthia says favorite exercises for someone who has trouble building definition in their legs, upper body is very responsible. Quads and glutes never look any different despite getting stronger and lifting heavy. What you think, babe?

[B]

So I would say lifting heavy is still going to be good, but I think breaking like breaking it up and lifting lighter and higher rep is going to help build like the tiny muscles to help then be able to create the cut and shape. And I would say like if you're really trying to get that definitely definition I would say like you really gotta like target and do the lugs at least three times a week. And then al also too, like depending on where that person's at. Like sometimes doing a cut is going to be helpful just to kind of get some of. If they're. Especially if they, if they do tend to hold more fat in the bottom half, that fat can also be Covering up the muscles that are there too.

[A]

In this case, it sounds like they're probably just not as big as they want to be down there. What would. Okay, let's say they do everything right. HRT peptides all optimized. They're still a little lagging exercise wise. Just could you give a brief because Taylor's always on my. On my butt because.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I don't do. I don't do glutes as much because I just like to squat and I'd like to do probably like more quad. I like doing more quad stuff because I just like pumps in my quads.

[B]

Glue area is such a big area. And so you have like your glute medius, your glute maximus. So you have like in the side. So you have like the glute is like a circle. So you have. Oh, wait, the camera. Just kidding. They're circle. But you have to define like, okay, how to get the roundness on the sides and the roundness in the back. That makes a difference. Hamstrings make a huge difference with glute development. And even, you know, quads do as well too. But it's making sure you're doing the right exercise to target that. So like abducting abductors are going to help.

[A]

Maybe. Talk about hip thrusting and clearing your

[B]

back when you're doing hip thrusting is going to help a ton. And I also think, like, sometimes like people like overdo it with the weight with hip thrusting. Now look, I used to think it was cute that I could hip thrust like 500 pounds and do like 3 reps. I used to think that was cute back in the day. That didn't really get me the development that I was wanting.

[A]

Does that bring all the milkshake boys to the yard?

[B]

That's probably why I used to get harassed at Planet Fitness. Probably. I think that, you know, doing and changing up the your sets when you're hip thrusting and making sure that like you're clearing the bat but you're not straining the lower back. And I think like doing a mixture of doing like a full hip thrust. So like doing 10 full hip thrusting motions and then your last 10, you do a pumping set where you're not going. Where you're not going down, like all the way, but you're staying here and you're just thrusting up. That makes a big difference. Kickbacks and doing kick like a crisscross kickback makes a huge difference because that's going to get the side of the glute muscle. That glute Maximus, that's really where you want to help. That's going to really give you that roundness and shape. Good mornings are amazing. You do have to make sure that you're being careful with good mornings because you are. You want to go lighter with them. You don't want to go super heavy with them because you do have a higher risk of injuring the lower back. But done properly, they are amazing. And you can really target the. The glute muscles by doing that. And then rdls. Rdls are one of my favorites. But with rdls, one of the big key things is that when rdls, when you're coming up, I have this in one of my vlogs, this whole, like, routine in one of my vlogs. I can't remember which one it is. When you're coming up, don't come up all the way. If you kind of come up and you kind of come up not quite all the way, that will actually target the glutes more and you still get the hamstring benefit as well. But if you don't come up all the way standing straight up, it will target the glute muscles a lot more. Clam openers, like, with a band, Those are amazing. And then I would say, like, walking lunges, but glute focus, your favorite. Yeah, I actually do like them a lot. We just. I don't know why we still never do them this much.

[A]

Well, we've been working out at home a lot, but we could go outside and do.

[B]

Yeah, we really should, like, end. If you end your, like, leg day with that, that's amazing. But making sure you're going low and control to where you're really contracting that glute muscle and you're targeting that glute muscle and not the quad is really beneficial. So there you go. You got me fired up.

[A]

Well, don't forget your favorite sled push.

[B]

Yeah, sled push. That can be.

[A]

We got a sled that we just have been doing using in our driveway, much probably to the shock and weirdness that our neighbors probably think of us pushing up a sled up and down our driveway. But it does work. And especially, like, you can change the angle at which you go on the sled. I think that's one of the best things because you don't overload the joints when you're doing a sled. But it puts a lot of stress on the muscle, which is good because that kind of increases, like, volume and size. I would also say, too, to your point about not going all the way up any of those leg exercises that you're doing. If one thing that I have found that really helps drive extra blood flow, which potentially then could drive a little bit more hypertrophy, not like a ton more. But whenever we do, and Taylor and I will do this on some sets for stuff, is go like don't extend out all the way or back. Meaning that like if you were doing like a sumo squat or a goblet

[B]

squat with a kettlebell, I think belt squats are amazing.

[A]

Yeah, belt squats.

[B]

Belt squats better than I think a sumo squat.

[A]

But what we will do is probably hard to explain just over audio, but we go like 95% of the way up. Like, don't lock out, go like 95 of the way up. And then same thing on the way down, don't go all the way down where you're rested in the down position. So basically like leave 5% off the top and the bottom. And what that it does is it creates tension throughout the entire movement. And you can use lighter weight and you're creating tension throughout the entire movement, to which then you get way more blood flow, way more hypertrophy driven, like muscle tearing probably through doing that because you're not locking out. Like, if you think about doing a squat, go like 95% of the way up and then 95% of the way down, but never go all the way up and all the way down. And you use a lighter weight for that. You don't want to do it with heavy, heavy weight. But if you use lighter weight for that, getting like that 20, 15, 20 rep range for it, that will burn really bad. But it also kind of creates that pump that will then help drive a little bit more hypertrophy. We do love lifting weights, although we never talk. Never really talk about it. I love Geek now.

[B]

I want to lift today.

[A]

Well, can if you want to. We usually don't lift on Saturday, but yeah, every day is a good day to lift. Yeah. Dina says I use retail therapy too. We were talking about the shopping. Bernardo says, are you okay with using Trappedide 900 micrograms weekly? Long term, you think pauses are necessary even at micro doses? I am less of the opinion that you would have to pause at that low dose. But maybe even if you just gave it one month off a year, I still think it's fine to do that low of a dose. Trish says. Any info on Elora Lentide? I have a knowledge info on it. I don't have practical use info on it. I would say Laura Lentide is like A Gorlin Tide, but it's more highly selective to amylin, and in doing so, it probably would have less of the side effects for people from a mental perspective than crillantide would. And so it seems to be on paper a better version of Krillin Tide that causes more fat loss with less. Less side effects, which could be cool,

[B]

but I have dopamine.

[A]

Yeah, I think there would probably be a little bit less of the. The emotional blunting, but again, until I try it and Taylor tries it, we don't really know. But I think it could be interesting. Yeah, the thing is, like, I'm just on reta right now, and I just don't. I don't eat probably enough as it is. No, right now you don't.

[B]

I was thinking about that yesterday.

[A]

Yeah, I'm the more the type of person. I do love eating, but, like, during the day I just, like, I would rather fast.

[B]

You did not eat enough yesterday.

[A]

I know. I just would rather fast during the day because, like, I just get so much more. Yeah, I just get so much more work done. But you gotta take time out to eat. Great job on cautioning MI doses. Thank you. You may be the only ones. I know it seems like a lot of people just want to push higher doses, but I. I just. There's nothing wrong with starting at a lower dose, and if you want to go higher, go higher. But a lot of people just start at these high doses and it just goes bad for them. Point being here, this guy says, my wife fainted after a small dose that she had routinely been taking for months. I love moths, but, like, CJC caution is required. Absolutely. And that's what. I always just do my best to shoot at you guys straight. Like, I hear when you hear things so much, and then you kind of have, like, practical experience too. I wouldn't say, like, I've fainted before, but I definitely have, like, got to.

[B]

Oh, definitely. I've gotten lightheaded for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Definitely got to the point of almost fainting from mat C. Like, I can't imagine taking 10 milligrams in one dose. Yeah, because that was, like, from 2 milligrams that almost fainted. Dina says, which hormone labs would you run on a man before using testosterone? I'm not gonna read off everyone, but if you go to vanguardperform.com and just look up the Total Mail panel, that's a good one. If you go to lifeextension.com look up the male elite panel, all those have all the markers on there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Lisa says any tips on taking testofensine? 500 micrograms. I just got some and I on 2 milligrams of retta go wait, Matt. And trying to wean off retta. I personally if you, I don't know if they're 500 microgram capsules, Lisa. I mean I do find at 500 micrograms but honestly I like to start people at 2:50 just because some people at 500 they get too stimulated and they can't sleep at night. But if you're doing 500, honestly you could probably. Cuz the, the half life is so long you could do it like three days a week and get good effects, appetite suppression stuff. But I love tesofensine it. I feel really good when I'm on it. Definitely get a little bit of appetite suppression. I would say for me it's more of a nootropic than an appetite suppressant, but I love it. That would be my recommendation. So just start maybe if you have 500 and you can't make it less than 500, maybe start three times a week and as you're tapering off retta, transition to that and then you know, you could taper off that as you go back into Retta in the future. Dina is very nice. She says, taylor, love your hair, look beautiful. And she does. Yeah, this is, it's a common thing. Some guys need huge balls and other guys who needs them large. I'm more of the opinion like I don't necessarily want like big balls like causing problems in between my legs. Donnie says is low dose DHEA good to take when you get past 40. I mean it's definitely not going to be as good as testosterone therapy. I don't think it's bad. I would just get your levels tested. I have played around with on and off dhea. I don't really notice anything and my levels never are low and so I don't use it. But I do use pregnant. Yeah, I do use pregnant alone. Taylor doesn't like it. I mean and it's not you don't like it, it's just, I don't know. It does anything. Yeah.

[B]

For me.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, agreed. When it comes to blood testing, especially for women, you have to make sure the best time usually is like days 19 through 21 of the, the cycle. I think. Especially for progesterone testing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Researchers are trying to use interstitial fluid similar to cgms for blood markers. Very challenging. Yeah, it is hard. It's hard. It's a, all the AI stuff in the world. All the agentic AI bots running in the background are still some of the stuff it's hard to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you guys talk about thyroid supplementation for men and women? I have a TSH of 1.6, free T3 of 3.7, free T4 of 1.13. I want to get my wife dialed 2 and her TSH is a little higher at 2.5. I mean those numbers sound really good to me. I don't know if you're using any thyroid supplementation, whether it's a bioregulator, desiccated thyroid, T3, T4. I'm just a fan of desiccated thyroid, especially for people on HRT because you do have a little bit of a negative feedback loop created by testosterone on the thyroid because it drives demand on the thyroid a little bit more for men and women when you're on hrt. I mean those numbers, your numbers look really good to me. I like to see the, the free T3 at least over 3.5. Ideally, like most people feel good when it's between 4 and 5. A doctor's gonna say that's high. But that's like where I see people usually do really well and have, have good results. But if her TSH is a little higher, I mean I wouldn't be worried about a TSH at 2.5. That's pretty normal, especially if you're not on any sort of thyroid therapy. But what will happen is as you introduce even like desiccated thyroid that will drive TSH down because your body doesn't need to make as much. Usually when TSH is really high, that's a sign of like Hashimoto's or something where you're trying to make thyroid and the body's not converting it into T3 or T4 to then T3. But yeah, I think the, the standard answer would just be start desiccated thyroid. I think it everyone does better on desiccated thyroid. Wit says was a match for our Laura Linti trial and waiting the nurses follow up call. But having lost so much weight for my jaro, I'm afraid I'll end up on the placebo. I do. Yeah. And that's why I always joke about like those people that get the placebo, like how depressing that would be. It's like you got into a trial and then get the placebo. Kelly, how are you doing? Kelly? She says is it fine to do just SS31? I have a very bad reaction to Matzi. Even when a very Small amount. Absolutely, yeah. If you only have one SS31 all day, every day. Yeah, there's actually this one, there's this really cool supplement I've been reading about and potentially might have access to soon called MA5 and actually it's called mitochondic acid. And on paper what it does, it's an oral supplement. It's been used in Japan in human trials and it does something very similar to SS31 from a mechanism perspective. So that could be a really cool thing too. That might even be better than like SLU that we have pretty soon. So I'm. I haven't tried that yet. I've been talking to some people that may be able to make it and I think that'll be really cool because it'll be. I think if you have that you could probably not even have to worry about taking MOT C. I also think too you look at MOT C, ATX could be a very good alternative for someone that doesn't do well with mutci. You're getting AMPK activation insulin sensitivity from that and most people, most people do really well on atx. They don't have any issues with it. Yeah, more and more people reacting to MAT C lately. I love MAT C but again I'm just tell. I'm telling you what I hear. You know, that's. That's what it is. BAM15 dosing for endurance while stacked with 1mg OTC injectable carnitine and 1mg 5amino. I'd probably do start with 50mg and you could work your way up to 100mg of BAM15 and you should be good. That's interesting. No. Kelly says son goes to doctor and Raleigh prescribes testosterone so it's covered by insurance. Had to start with endocrinologist Maury says just started Rhythm health. I like it but it's not as comprehensive I really originally thought so I still do a more comprehensive. Yeah, that's the one thing. It is a pretty simple panel so if you just want like those simple markers, it's good but doesn't have everything on there. We did speak a little bit on the DHE pregnan alone supplementation. I don't really worry about the levels as much unless they're low outside of the reference range. I think you should just do where you feel good at. For instance I inject allopregnolone 60mg total per week. So like 20mg three times per week and I really, really like that. But when I've done oral, oral injectable dhea, I don't, I don't really feel anything from that and don't notice anything. And so I like that. So I think it's one of those things, especially for people on hrt, just a case by case basis, I tell everyone they should try both and see how they feel. For me, my HRT is enhanced when I have pregnant alone, but some guys, they, they might not. So. Yeah, Donnie says Masterclass vid on testosterone would be awesome. Probably get you banned. I've actually thought about that. It would probably end up being a longer one because there's a lot of nuances that I would want to cover in it. But yeah, I'm, I'm down to do it. And at least the thing is if I do it and it gets banned, like at least it'll be there for people to see because I've ever. Now I'm smarter about backing everything up. So it's all backed up on my website. So all the videos and everything will always be there. Wanting to try SS31 for the first time, I'm also considering another round of Tess and ipa. Can I do those at the same time? Can you also share a good dose in cycle link for S31? You definitely can. And dosing is really easy. You can do 1 to 2 milligrams per day for at least 8 to 12 weeks. Uh, that's usually like the healthier person dose. If you have a chronic issue, I'd say get to like the 5 to 10 milligram per day range. But for most healthy people, 1 to 2 milligrams does great. Can women take Tonkot Ali if you're menopausal or is it just for men? I mean you probably could. I don't think it's gonna do anything though. It's just you're gonna need testosterone.

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

let's see. Not seeing this is on Jardian. It's not seeing the fasting glucose changes yet I think because already lean with low A1C. Yeah. 4.9. Curious to see other biomarkers, impacts, lipids, et cetera. Yeah. And you if you're already really healthy, it's like only gonna do so much if you're already pretty metabolically healthy. But you might see improvement in other links. Longevity things. Renee says I'm taking TS05 three times a week and right up five, three times a week. Plus CLO stalled with only 10 pounds of go. What to do? I would just need to know More about you, Renee. Like, are you on hormones? Are you on thyroid? Because those are going to be things that will help you push past the plateau.

[B]

If you're not on those, those. That's where the focus needs to be.

[A]

Yeah, but if you are, if you are, then you could do five amino. You could do, do some slu, you could do some carterine, you could do some albuterol. Like, there's so many. If you go, I have a video. It's like the reviewing 20 non GLP fat loss compounds. So any of those on there, you know, if they're SA or B tier, should work good.

[B]

Might even just need to like switch over to just one of the glp, like one of the either ters or retta and go up on higher on those doses.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you're not on a huge dose, so that'd be 3mg total per week of a GLP. You could always go up more. I'm not opposed to that either. John says is there ever a time when the doc should prescribe progesterone and testosterone and not estrogen for a menopausal female?

[B]

That should be the first.

[A]

I would say that'd be the first

[B]

step a doctor should do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then do not. Even if it is a postmenopausal woman or menopausal one. That's the first step that needs to be done. Estrogen should not be introduced until they have been on testosterone and progesterone for at least 90 days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To see how much the testosterone they're converting into estrogen.

[A]

Oh, that's funny. Somebody asked about mitochondic acid and I literally talked about it before I saw the comment. I'll talk in a second. Kelly says anything wrong with Brinzavi Seems like the same as Jardians without the long stone studies for kidney health. Because it's newer. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's definitely cheaper than Jardiance. I would say, like Depaglophosin has more data. That's probably a little bit better than Brin Avi, but I still think it's good. I think all those probably are within 10 to 15% as good as each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe Jardiance is the best one. We have more data on it, obviously, but I, I think those other ones are good too. It's weird because, like, you'll see, like, oh, maybe, maybe Farsee goes a bit, little bit better for like kidney health. Whatever. I'm, I'm just Saying, like, there. There might be, like, different ones that, like, have a little bit more benefit than others for certain things, but I think they're all within about 10 to 15% as good as each other. Yeah. Kimberly asked about MA5, which is mitochondic acid. Basically, it would be very similar to, like, what SS31 does, doesn't bind to cardiolipin, but it does bind to something inside the mitochondrial membrane. I was reading a paper on it earlier. Earlier this week, and I forget what it was now, but basically it's binding to something inside the mitochondria to repair the structure. And so when you look at the benefits of that, obviously, reduction in reactive oxygen species, improvement in insulin resistance, improvement, inflammation improvement, recovery times and everything. And so basically, it'd be almost. It'd be very analogous to SS31, but you can take it orally and probably take it as, like, a thing that you would just have every day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Denise ask, is there ESTRAD and testosterone? No, there's not. But what it does do is when you introduce testosterone, it aromatizes into estrogen, and so your body will metabolize some of that testosterone into estrogen, whether you're a man or a woman. Thoughts on AR290? I think it's great for neuropathy, nerve pain, even a lot of just chronic pain in cases for people. So I love AR290. That's another underrated peptide that I think a lot of people, Maybe they use BPC and TP500, and it works and doesn't work.

[B]

My foot.

[A]

It would be worth trying for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think it's necessarily a nerve issue, but at the very least, it's gonna help with blood flow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which could improve the outcome of just plantar fasciitis as well. Whit asks around PE22 28. An experience on it has improved your mood. Heard some folks with depression, depression have benefited from it. Me personally, it does. I've used the nasal spray. I've used the injectable nasal sprays. Maybe a little bit more pronounced, but I've heard people with depression say the nasal spray works better for them. I think you can do both. But I really like it. I mean, I'm. I wouldn't say I'm definitely not suffering from depression, but there's definitely a mood benefit from it.

[B]

Yeah, I agree that there's definitely a mood benefit. I feel like. And I feel like I talked about this with one of our friends when she was using it around the same time that I Was like I did. I do feel like if you, if you use it who like more than three times a week. I did kind of feel like it messed with my sleep a little bit that I, I don't, I don't know. But like yeah, if it's causing. She also had that same. I'm pretty sure she had that same experience.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With it as well too. It wasn't like bad but it just like wasn't like the best sleep. Obviously made me feel like less like. Yeah, like a little bit more like

[A]

when it comes to the nootropic stuff, people's neurochemistry is so different and so diverse. It's very hard. And that's why I don't talk about those as much because it's like if I take some of this greatest thing ever, someone else can take it. Like I can take Tesla and I love it. Someone else take Tesla. It's like a nightmare for them. And so it's like very hard to say. And so I will say with P22 28 it's worth trying. Like I don't see that many people have told me like there's anything bad that comes of it. It's just there's probably going to be a lot of variation in the benefit some people get because I've heard people say it's like oh my goodness like the lights came on for the first time and I felt amazing. Other people like eh, I don't know if I feel anything and so really just depends on the person. Thyen, thymulin and cordagen are good examples of relatively unknown B regulars or you useful for immunity and brain health. I love all those. I even say I heard from a doctor this is around sin, which is the oral form of cortisone. I think you'd use both. He had really good results with patients and tinnitus using that. And so I don't claim to have anything that I know that works for tinnitus but I have heard that anecdotally that works well for that. What do you think is the best reta post injection action plan? A go lay down B go for a walk. C consume healthy, healthy meal D fast I will say go for a walk. I mean I don't think it really matters. Probably inject it whenever.

[B]

Just say go for a walk so you're active.

[A]

And I think too anytime you inject something, I mean it doesn't really matter. Anytime you inject something, when you like move around and getting blood flow, it probably distributes it a little bit more efficiently right away. Maybe that's just bro science, but

[B]

that's

[A]

all you are, just bro science anecdote. Hey, I'm fine knowing that I, I don't claim to know there's anything that I know is that I don't know so much and that every day there's so much to learn and the more you help people and the more stories you hear, the more you're just you always. It's a reminder to keep an open mind. And I think for people that have any sort of domain expertise, don't have to be in this. Any sort of domain expertise. There's a tendency to want to become myopic. Like, oh, I do this and oh, this is the way it's done. It's like I, I just hear so much from people like, man, maybe that is the way you know. And there's things that you obviously have proclivities towards because you see them work well. But anyway. Taylor, do you have any good influencers? Doctors? My wife and I can watch for women's hrt. Slowly learning that women's HRT is extremely more complicated than men's.

[B]

Besides me. No, I'm just kidding. Dr. Like influencer wise. I would say Lauren Fitzgerald is probably the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In my opinion. And she's. She's in the World Link program and she was the best speaker at World Link in my opinion when I went through World Link. So I would say her trying to think anybody else off the top of my head. It's really hard because I don't. Well, I don't consume other people's content and if I do, it's not typically related to the subjects that we cover. It's like artists and like, you know, like homesteaders. Homesteaders. But it's also because I don't do that to myself because sometimes like it's. It's not healthy to do that and I don't have that much time to consume a lot of other. I don't spend that much time consuming content. But I would say Lauren Fitzgerald. I mean, do you.

[A]

Can you think of probably the best.

[B]

I think she's probably.

[A]

I've heard and also I've really watched any of her YouTube content. I've just seen this lecture.

[B]

Yeah, I've just seen her in lecture and she's really good.

[A]

But she does publish stuff on social media. The problem with this is is that if they're really good doctors, they're typically not on social media.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the best women doctors or women's health doctors that I know they don't have any social media or they might be trying to and just no one knows them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I can't think of any that are trying to, that no one knows that should know more about. But it's the, the age old problem with the Internet is people who, the people we think are experts are actually experts at telling you about it through marketing, not actually doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a lot of the domain expertise is locked up in silos because those people are practicing medicine rather than being influencers.

[B]

And most, and most medical providers, they don't want to be influencers. There are a lot, and a lot of people are super uncomfortable being on camera, which I totally understand. Like it took me a long time to be comfortable on camera. But then it's also like doctors are also, they, they also get worried about like you know, their license as well too.

[A]

And yeah, it's like if you're thing

[B]

on camera because if you're a doctor, you're under a microscope.

[A]

Yeah. You have this license and you say one wrong thing then you get sued. Oh, you said this on social media. And even if that wasn't the case and you can say whatever you want as a doctor, you can't in a lot of cases. Then you just open yourself up to criticism. People don't realize like if you put yourself out there, you're going to get haters, you're gonna get people to say negative things about you. Yeah, it doesn't really bother me at this point. I mean obviously you, no one wants negative things said about them. But I would say I have a pretty good tolerance for dealing with negative stuff because it's kind of just like crazy is as crazy does. But and also too, I think it's reflected back in the type of attitude and demeanor in which you put stuff out. And so like if you, if you. I'll say this like the way that I create content, I, I have faith that there's really smart, real, really good people out there. And I send like my content is like a, a homing beacon for those people because that's how I present it to them. Which you don't realize. Like this is from like the other side of the flint. Like is the influencer opening the fourth wall here? Is that like a lot of influencers? Here's what happens. I've talked about this before. So you make content. 99% of the people that watch that content will never interact with it. They'll never like subscribe, comment. So you have 1% of the people that are interacting with it. And of those 1% of the people in our case going to be different depending on the person in our case I would say like 95ish percent is positive, probably even higher. Like if you did a language analysis. And so 5% of the 1% which is like whatever.0001% or 5.0005% is negative. But that negative piece. So like one out of a thousand people are negative towards you. So 999 people love you, they're positive towards you. But that one person that's negative to you sticks out more. Then what happens as an influencer is that starts to warp your perception. You're like, oh, they said that my content sucked or that my video is too long or too boring. And they're like, is it really? And then you start to lose like your conviction and your faith around it because you're listening to that one person. This is a crazy person. It's like if you had one crazy person, a thousand people, that would actually be like a low ratio. There's more people than that that are crazy. And so actually like you have a very, very good. I would say my kids like a very, very good like super intelligent, like super friendly, super warm audience that like loves you and I love them. But people, the negative sticks out to us more than the positive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's what I always ground myself in saying is like if someone does even say something, something super hateful or super rude or whatever, like that's such a small fraction, that's okay. In a lot of cases I would say like there's a, sometimes even a negative truth in there that I can take as a learning experience to improve what I do. Because like at the end of the day like I want to be the best at what I do. If someone says something negative, assuming there's a negative truth in it, I'm going to integrate that in my content. Like they probably have a point in saying that without getting like a personal attachment to it. Now does that mean that it's not going to happen? In some cases? Yeah, of course. Like we're all humans and we have emotion. But it's, it's like, okay, how do I take that negative feedback? I think like fortunately, like I had a life that kind of prepared me for that before this with like sports and stuff. And that's like the benefit of sports is especially when you play at a high level, you get used to people criticizing you and talking. Like it's like what sports does. Especially at the level that I played at it forces you to say like to be objective about yourself and to not get like emotionally upset or as emotionally upset if there's objective feedback that you can use. And you know, like all the negative comments people say, like I've heard worse probably about someone say something to me, you know, especially when I was playing football of like the stuff that you have to deal with. So you know, it's, it's to the point of like the influencer doctors. Like, why would a doctor that's like financially successful has the money they need, has the patient base they need, they get to help people and they're fulfilled. Why would they expose themselves up to people saying hateful or rude things about them? You know? And I think the best thing is it's just you have to learn that that's going to be a part of it and when you put yourself out there, everyone's going to have an opinion. But what I will say, what I was kind of saying is like, I through the content that you create will be the audience that you drive. And I just act like myself on content. And that has attracted the type of audience that I love that I know vibes with my type of stuff. I know a lot of influencers, they try to do stuff for the sake of getting views to which you will always be playing that game to which you will attract the type of people that are lower vibe and just want to like say negative things or even, even if they're not saying negative things, they're, they're. If you appeal to the lowest common denominator, you will get the lowest common denominator person. You know, if you go out and say like I have faith that there's really smart, really talented, really good people out there that need the help from my content, that's what you'll attract to you. And then it ends up being like, we could. I always say like I have the best audience in the world because like they're, they like my content. And that's the type of content that like I would consume myself anyway. Ron says, as a post menopausal woman trying to combat sarcopenia on my thigh, should I inject my Ace 31 in each thigh individually or can I just stick subq in my belly fat? ACE31 does work systemically and so maybe there's a slight advantage to injecting into the thigh, but the belly fat is probably okay too. And so decide for yourself. It was Ace 83. That's a little bit more localized. If you're gonna do ace31 I've used that before and I've just done it sub Q into the belly fat and it does work a little bit. What would be a good re entry dose of Retta following two months off stop falling six months of 500 micrograms to 1mg weekly dose that eventually caused severe bloating, significant elevated heart rate. If that dose caused those side effects, I would probably say start at 250 micrograms once or twice per week. Or just use terzeptide. I would use at the same dose.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And especially with a heart rate issue.

[B]

Yeah, with the heart rate.

[A]

But yeah, I would say 250 to 500 micrograms and then work your way up. You may have to go higher to get results but then work your way into it. Sha says when is an ideal time to take zinc. I can never forgot when I should take it around other vitamin supplements. I always take it at night. Like semi multivitamin that I take at night. Night, yeah, is usually fine. Donnie says only did once but I really like penelon and fen Nellon. Not really a sport nutrition department but well being felt nice. Yeah those are all great and have good benefits.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

ZX says. How do you feel about using DHEA to raise free testosterone in a male? Haven't noticed an increase at 25 milligrams a day. Think of doing 50 milligrams trying to avoid sides. Well, if you want the shortcut Zionic just go get some proviron 25 milligrams a day, problem solved in four weeks. And so if you want to do that and then I think you probably get more benefit actually out of boron and zinc and probably injectable carnitine to raise free testosterone than you would from dhea. Not saying it wouldn't help, but to your point Zionic of like the extra side effects from doubling the dose to 50 milligrams which can be problematic for some people. Just take Proviron for like 4 to 6 weeks and it usually will bring down SHBG. Bump up free testosterone and then you're on your way. I think they meant to say I see down below what is Jardiance, not Harding. Jardiance is an SGLT2 inhibitor. Simplest way to put it is that it makes you excrete any excess glucose in your urine. And so basically it helps stabilize blood sugar throughout the day to where your blood sugar is never too high. If it goes up, you just pee it out rather than getting reabsorbed back into the kidneys and in doing so, it works really well to help manage metabolic health and improve our metabolism and inflammation. Any thoughts on elu? Not sure. Maybe they meant allure lenti. I don't know. Devin says thoughts on nicotine patches for blanket treatments in a disease state long Covid or as a nootropic. I think they're fine. I mean, I like nicotine. From time to time I just chew a gum, like a 2 milligram piece of gum. But honestly, pouches. Pouches are good too. I don't know, it's kind of. I know people love nicotine. I'm kind of just like, eh, it's cool, whatever. Like it's good. Like if, like a little hit, like after a meal or something, take a nicotine gum or in the afternoon. I guess I would rank new pept P21 for the purpose of increased brain metabolism. New PEP P21DI. Especially new PEP because it's so short acting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like I would rank.

[B]

That would be like the best.

[A]

I think that's better than nicotine.

[B]

Yeah, definitely. Especially in a nasal spray.

[A]

Yeah. Just take a hit and boom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You have it for a couple hours and then you're good.

[B]

It doesn't affect your sleep.

[A]

I do think there is.

[B]

Well, I should say the nasal spray does not affect my sleep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Capsules can affect my sleep. The nasal spray does not.

[A]

Yeah. Um, but it's good. It's just. There's better stuff. I even like, honestly, those bum energy drinks, a hundred milligrams caffeine and then they have cognizant cyto choline in them. I love those things. Like if you said nicotine gum or bum energy drink, what would you choose?

[B]

Depends on.

[A]

I mean, I'm sure there's probably like sucralose or something.

[B]

Nicotine does give you a little bit more of a buzz kind of feeling of like. I feel like. I do feel a little bit more of a. Like a. I feel more of that fast hit, that quicker hit from the nicotine. Whereas in the bum energy drinks, I haven't had one in so long, it's kind of more of like a longer, like a more slower release energy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think. I don't know, I think it's hard because I do think like if I'm doing like, which I'm not right now, but like we're doing like a live call. Like when we do our live calls, I do like having it. If I'm editing videos. Yeah. The nicotine. I'm editing videos. Which. Yeah. We all know I Haven't done that in a while. Do you like it for that?

[A]

So Taylor goes back and forth of like, what type of content to create. But it's okay. We're creating content right now.

[B]

Creating content right now. So this is the only thing consistent that I have. Like, because I like. I personally like doing the vlogs better, but that's not what my audience likes as much smaller percentage of what they like. But like, it's just also like our life is changing. And so that's why I started doing that. And it's just honestly, right now it's summertime, I'm in my little homestead, like moment, like taking on house projects and nesting and gardening and making homemade sourdough starters and homemade bread and like painting. And like the painting that I'm doing is like also art pieces for the house. I'll eventually sell them at some point. But it's like I'm enjoying that part of my life right now. And keeping my nervous system calm and my cortisol levels healthy is more important right now to get in order to get pregnant than it is to be pushing out like content.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I feel guilty. I feel, I feel guilty like every day not doing that and not right writing emails. But like, it's also like comes a point like we went through a lot of stressful things in the fall and that took a toll on my body and like really until like April is when I really started feeling like my cortisol in my body, like really calming down. And what happened in April? I stopped filming. I started doing those things. Now I have picked up the camera in the last week and started vlogging again. I know that's not what people want to hear, but it's also like right now it's more important for me to get pregnant than it is for me to like stress myself out with the content. And I'm sorry, I feel guilty for that because I know people benefit from it. But I have a lot of helpful videos that are out there. Like that still cover a lot of topics that are. We talk about. Like, it's not like I've haven't covered like some. Yeah, I haven't talked and made a whole video about mastutide and made a whole groundbreaking discovery new peptide. Like, I've talked a lot about peptides and covered a lot of peptides over the years. They're older, so maybe the video quality aren't as good because I'm not as comfortable on camera. But yeah, just know that I'm sorry and I feel really bad. But it's just like Taylor's also a

[A]

Gemini and Geminis are like been there, done that. And whereas I could worked for 15

[B]

years in a salon and owned a business, I'm also just like, like I've had a big career, I've had that fulfillment. I love making content. And now this part of my life is just like guys, I'm just ready to be a mom and go through that. And you know what? Improv. And I still love working. The group has grown so much. The group keeps me also really.

[A]

I was gonna say we're. It's not that you're not working.

[B]

It's not that I'm not a lot of time keeping me like so busy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know What? When I'm 50 and. Or 50 something or maybe when my kids are in college out of the house and maybe, maybe it will change. But like I'm, I'm content and I'm. And it took me how many years to get here to be okay being in my feminine energy and not like letting go of like that work like hustling mentality. So right now I'm just gonna enjoy. Because having a baby is more important to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just. Yeah. So I'm sorry.

[A]

Well, it's also too. When it, when it comes to content creation and this goes back to like. Well, people don't realize how stressful it can be.

[B]

And our videos are very different. Hunter's really good. Hunter can sit and like do things in one take. Other people like regardless whether he's filming videos like that. I have to go back and edit a lot of things because again, I ramble. I'm rambling right now. You guys probably don't want to hear about this, but I ramble or sometimes I mispronounce something. So I have to go back and do a lot more editing with my stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's also probably me just being hard. But like there's less editing on your side than there is on my stuff. And I again, it's like a double edged sword because I do love editing because it's creative. So it gets that creative fix because at the end of the day like I am more of an artist at heart than anything else.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I would say this, like for me, what. When it comes to content creation stuff and this is where like a lot of people, very few people ever be content creators. And that's fine. It's not meant for everyone. Like I'll just never like I'll never be certain professions and that's okay comes to content creation stuff. Like it really is something that you have to be able to do and you have to be passionate about. Like I could do the type of content that I create right now for the rest of my life and speak cited and I get a energized to do that every day. Whereas like someone else to be able to sit down for an hour straight and film something or have slides that guide you to film something and to like explain your domain expertise, I'd be like torture for someone. And to your point of like you've made content in a way that is helpful to people but it's also not like your highest realized like self actualized type of like passion behind that. Like it's not.

[B]

I didn't own a laptop. I got a laptop when I was 18, I didn't own a laptop after that until I was like 29. I'm not like a big like this is like we are a little bit different. Like I like technology, I love cameras.

[A]

Well, I'm not even saying that, but

[B]

I'm saying not like to put me in a room all day and like have to sit in front of computer is honestly torture for me a lot of times. Like I can do it for short periods of time and then I have to like get up and go do something. Like it's like torture for me.

[A]

Well what agreed but what I'm saying is that it takes a very rare type of personality to be able to do this over and over and over and over and over again. And my personality like loves that and yours is less of the like sit down and turn a camera on and be able to talk by yourself for a long time. It's actually more rare that that would be anyone that could, that could sustain the type of effort. And that's where I always tell you like if you want to do like for people that are like trying to get into coaching stuff, understand that I've been doing this for going on like six and a half years now of making videos and making content that is extremely dry and boring, but that I can do and like turn on and talk for 30 minutes or 60 minutes of the clip. Understand like that skill set was honed and honed and honed through years and even years before that through being a real estate agent to where I like developed a craft of speaking all day. Like a lot of people don't realize like I used to be extremely shy and have trouble talking to other people. Whereas like now the way that I exist in the world is through Communicating and like I, I did that over and over and over and over and over again. And long story short, and we'll get to the rest is in order to like when you come, this is like a life philosophy thing that I've learned from like a lot of really good books and podcast and stuff. It's like in order, like you have to love something to be able to do what it takes to be really good at it. And if you don't love it, then you will get by for a time, but it will never be like something that you can sustain the energy needed to be a master at it. And fortunately for me, like I love what I do so much like every day at the end of the day, even if I'm tired from working, it didn't feel like working work to me. Whereas like doing like working at a bank would be like, oh my goodness, I can't wait to get away from this. Even though like I love numbers and finance and stuff, like I would never want to work at a bank. And so point being is that like in order to sustain the level of output that is needed to become a master at something, you have to love it. And if you don't love in this case, making peptide videos that are in the way that I make them, like, that's why like other people can't be me and I can't be other people because like I do things in a way and you have a way that you love doing things and you like creating content. But if it's not that way, then like why would you. Don't even worry about making it, you know? Yeah, because like what's. What you're going to do? The sustainable is what you like to do. And so for anybody out there that wants to be a content creator. Yes, we're just to live by. Any thoughts on potentially try the orientide that's being produced out there? I haven't, I mean.

[B]

Questions.

[A]

Yeah. 53 year old post menopausal. How to lower S H B G so the body can convert the T to usable by the body ts3 to 400 level. But usable t is only 2 likely to move between 3 and 6. Estradiol is 50. I mean usually the best thing is to just optimize metabolic health. You could also try boron and zinc would be like the minerals obviously like magnesium would help too. I would try boron and zinc first, see if that helps and then from there see how you do. And then if you, there are more like other things that you could use to resort I think also too for women that probably they it's underrated. Injectable carnitine could potentially like help modulate some of that stuff to help you convert more of the testosterone. Lower SHBG to have more free testosterone. Donnie says I was taking one and a half. I use H, but my AI use kind of talk me. Oh, AI like artificial intelligence. Kind of talked me out of it for roofing. So I switched to ipamorelin. I might have noticed a small energy boost from the switch. Is it real? Definitely could be. I mean there's nothing wrong with either one. You just gotta do what works best for you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have just had a few more cars because the HH was just working so good and I was spending so much enter during work. Yeah. I definitely think if you need more carbs, listen to the body.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Yes. Estradiol is made from testosterone in our bodies. Is downstream from testosterone, is metabolite of testosterone. Thank you, Shannon. Good to see you here this morning. Hope you're doing well. Thank you guys for commenting. Got some, some great sage advice in the comments this morning. Did you lose the place or they disappear? Since taking Retta, I have had UTIs. Have you heard anyone complain about this with Retta? Not really. I will say that's not like something that I have heard that much of. Have you?

[B]

If they're not drinking enough here.

[A]

What?

[B]

The only way I could find this relation is that like GLPs, people do tend to drink less water on GLP. So if you're not drinking enough water, you're not urinating as much, you're not flushing your body out more. That could be related if you're not drinking enough and not getting enough minerals.

[A]

Yeah. So honestly, admittedly I. I know very little about UTIs and yeast infections. SNC says caprylic acid kills yeast.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Cranberry juice, garlic, ivermectin are potential tools for uti. I would agree with that.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

A lot more people watching this know more than me about yeast infections.

[B]

Well, it's typically more of a female.

[A]

Yeah. Peptides are best for triglycerides and ldl. I mean teraptide, radit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Bang bang growth hor peptides too. Interesting. Dina says UTIs can be caused by low estrogen for one gut D biosis. Which makes sense. Cause if you have low estrogen, your immune system is going to be suppressed too.

[B]

Yeah.

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Sean says peptide protocol for girlfriend for low energy inflammation, inflammation, libido, hair, nails and overall aches and Pains. Well obviously HRT is gonna fix all that. HRT and desiccated thyroid is gonna fix all that. But I mean peptide wise sure you could take a GLP, sure you could take some SS31 and MAT C, sure you could take some 5amino but I think those will act more as a band aids if the hormonal environment is not fixed.

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The long term the desiccate thyroid is gonna help a lot with energy the her skin.

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62 year old male, taking 150 tests a week and getting ready to start HGH. I've lost 55 pounds on Retta now weight 205. At 62 what dose of HGH would you recommend? Awesome. Great work Barry. So far I would just start with 1iu of HGH and then you'll probably find that 2iu is your sweet spot. But you could play. You could even go up a little bit higher if you want. But I think 2iu is probably where you'll land. But just as things are going to introduce your body to it, start with one IU and then kind of get adapted to it and then go up to two IUs and that's probably where you'll end up landing. Yeah. House of Pain says law school Learning to think like attorney is one of the best things you can do for your life in general.

[B]

I think it's probably one of the great things too like especially like if you're dealing with like having to deal with like just either contracts or like crazy business partners to like help like teach you like that, that skill. Smart of being like the street, smart of being able to like be confronted

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like well how many people just use AI now to do legal work?

[B]

It's a lot. But like I think also too just to be able to do, be better to like when you're confronted with you know, the unexpected. Especially like convert like in person or on phone calls. Like yeah, very beneficial.

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What's up? Priscilla, another wonderful member of the group, she says on the peptide cheat sheet recommends take 300 micrograms of IPA. I've heard Hunter take mention take 150 micrograms. Which one would be best? Typically yeah, if you wanted to start at 1:50 and go to 300, that's fine. I like 150 when it's paired with CJC. And so if you're doing CJC and IPA you can do 150 of each. You're doing IPPA by itself, usually 300. You'll be totally fine on 300 micrograms of IPA. But if you just wanted to start low and then go up. I think for a lot of people they have a threshold dose. Like I don't know that taking 750 micrograms of IFA is better than 300. 300 might be better than 150, but I think really beyond 300 micrograms it doesn't really do anything much more like taking 1 milligram is not going to be extra beneficial.

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Yeah.

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Dave says best peptide protocol for beer growth. I mean that's hard cuz everyone has like different genetics when it comes to beer growth. I'll say this, when I use GHK serum or more cream on my face, my beard grows like crazy. Which. My beard grows a lot anyway.

[B]

No, it does, it does.

[A]

No, it definitely does because I put some on.

[B]

Didn't you just.

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I just shaved like three days ago.

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Like three days ago.

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Now it's like, look at my neck is just like. Yeah, coming in. But that's what I thought.

[B]

It was weird this morning when he asked me like, do you think I need a shave?

[A]

I was like, you just shave.

[B]

Like you just shave.

[A]

But I've been using that GHK serum.

[B]

The bathroom's clean, so no.

[A]

Oh my goodness.

[B]

I just told him myself. Now you're never going to ask me again.

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Donnie says, love Mat C. From what I've seen and felt seems like a help with blood sugar and using food for energy. Metabolic health news. I'm wrong, but it really is efficient, strong. Yeah, it is. I love, I love Matzi as well. It's just you gotta. It's a very powerful. The people don't realize how powerful it is. Yeah. If your doctor doesn't treat you right, find a new doctor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Let's see.

[B]

I feel like the medical system's just been blowing my mind lately.

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Can peptides cause constipation? I'm taking BPC, KPV and TP 500. Take a Lotus turd, but never had an issue. Potentially. But you may have to increase your fiber intake.

[B]

Yeah, Magnesium citrate too.

[A]

Yeah. My wife's allergies are kicking her butt. Do you recommend any peptides? I mean, Thymos Alpha 1 usually works really well. L37 can be beneficial too for allergies. KPV as well. There's like a inflammatory type allergy. But usually Thymos Alpha 1 I will say is like probably the best thing. Love the AI. Set up and use it often. Yeah, the AI is working good so far. I'm working on some things to build it out even more. To, like, where you can upload documents into it and remember members or chats and stuff. So amongst the other things that I'm doing, I do take some time. It's just one of those things. It's like, if you're doing it yourself, which I have no desire to, like, hire anyone to do that. Like, it's just gonna be a pet project of mine to turn it into something to. Basically, I would love to have it to the point where it becomes fully functional, like a GPT or a Claude, but it has my information in it as a adjunct to it.

[B]

So it's gonna go in there and ask a question.

[A]

Yeah. Your own wife doesn't even use it when all these people use it.

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I do, because I. I'm kidding. I'm gonna go there and ask a question. Like, the questions I want to ask are, like, I just want to mess with it.

[A]

Like, why did you leave hair in the sink this morning?

[B]

Why won't he let me get.

[A]

Sorry, that is not. That is not in my data set. What do I have to do to get you to let me have a golden retriever? We'll get a golden retriever one day. We have two German shepherds right now. Tumor German shepherds take up a lot of bandwidth.

[B]

Yeah, they do.

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Very needy. But, yeah, eventually it will. I will continue to build things into it to, like, make it more functional, because right now it's just more of, like, a chat tool. But I want to build in some functionality to, like, we're basically, again, will function as one of those LLMs, but then it has, like, my info as kind of a primary source, and then we'll fill in if there's, like, gaps in it. Other things I will say, the good thing about it is it sends reports to me of anonymized data. Not, like, what people are actually typing in, but just like, large data sets of like. What is the most common theme? Hands down, the most common thing is reconstitution, which makes sense because it's like, it's actually easier to use that than to use a reconstitution calculator. Because someone can literally type in. I have this. What do I do? And it will tell them, like, exactly what to do. And so that's what a lot of people, I guess, have been using it for. According to, like, the. The summarization of, like, the anonymized data is that it's like, how do I reconstitute 10 milligrams of retru? And then they'll say, like, do this, this, this and this, which I, I mean if it, if it works that's like to me that's like informative of like what I need to do from a content perspective of what people need. Any reason why glutathione will cause my face to get flaky? I don't know.

[B]

We'd need to know what the concentration of the glutathione is, like what brand you're using, like how much is in it. It could be over drying the skin. The ones that I use don't cause that. So I think the concentration and what other ingredients are in it could be causing it. Yeah, because it does. I mean it's going to help them with melasma. It kind of makes me wonder if it's like the one that you're using if it's like over drying the skin. So it's going to, you know, essentially if you think about like, like a chemical peel is going to take off like layers of the skin which is healthy because you need to shed that skin. But that's also going to like slowly start lightening the skin. But it shouldn't be, it should not be causing drying flakiness. So yeah,

[A]

thank you for the word. Kind words got me going on TRT and peptides now the go to person. That's what it's all about is my mission with my content is like you should be able to go out, hopefully change your own life and then be able to help other people do the same thing. We all make the world a better place. ATX is a ampk activator that will improve a bunch of things. Basically a enhanced in my opinion like I think the best way to think about is like a better version of metformin without the downsides that metformin has.

[B]

Yeah.

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Mike says looking to increase my testosterone. Well the best way is just to inject it and that'll increase it and you'll be good and your life will change. Tried CMAX C lengths Rin. I like CMAX for focus drive an action. Any other recommendations? Corden Cordagen be good. I don't know this gonna be necessarily like a nootropic new pep. Could be good. D could be good. J147 could be good.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Any experience with club exos and or Sandra Kaufman. She injected me with exosomes one time. Yeah, seemed to work good. Think with exomes like if you don't have anything necessarily that is wrong, I don't know that you'll feel that much better. They can be Good. Especially if you have like, injuries or chronic inflammation.

[B]

Didn't feel anything. Maybe like traveling. I didn't feel as fatigue. We'll say like after I got it done, I did get like an intense micro needle done. I didn't heal any quicker, but I think it's more so with that Sandra Hoffman.

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She's like, she's a genius.

[B]

She's really smart. She's no, like, she does not take from anybody that. I actually love it, like, when she calls, like, ignorant, like people out. I think it's so funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just. Yeah. She's. She's. I like her.

[A]

Kelly said my son and his wife and her and her husband are going to be on the homestead rescue in August, so.

[B]

Cool. Homestead. Me and one of Hunter's brother were talking about how, like, in a few years we're gonna have land and do like a whole homestead thing. And like, Hunter has no idea that, like, one of his brothers are planning all this. But it's fine because we'll do all the, all the labor.

[A]

It's like all my.

[B]

We'll do all the labor. And you can.

[A]

All my brothers and my parents. That's like their dream, I would think. I think it's cool. But.

[B]

Yeah. You've gotten. You're into the garden. You're more into the garden than I thought you were going to be.

[A]

Yeah. Pick all the weeds out of it.

[B]

Yeah, I know. And it's like, like when I. When I see you do that, like, it, like, it makes me so happy. Like, that's how. Yeah. I just love that so much.

[A]

Any thoughts on injectable dht? Talk about doing injectable allopregnelone. Is this better for moon libido on the steroid case of pregnant alone dha. I love injectable dht. I'm not gonna. I don't. I don't know. I just don't like to talk about it that much publicly. But yeah, I've used it. I think it can be very beneficial as an adjunct to trt. So I like it.

[B]

Be cautious.

[A]

Yeah. You got to be careful with what you're doing because it can be very suppressive of estrogen, but also too. I don't think it's. I don't think it's either or meaning that, like, I think you use pregnelone on top of that too.

[B]

So would you say, like, using that. Like, that's not like a. Like a longevity thing? That'd be more like a cycling here and there kind of thing too?

[A]

Yeah, probably.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if I do it all the time and I also make sure you have at least like a 4 to 1 ratio of test to DHT because if the DHT is too high relative to the test you will

[B]

get some estrogen cuz even when you

[A]

done it yeah even that's the thing is depending on the person estrogen like you yeah depending on the person it can be very suppressive of estrogen which cannot be good long term Ben says any way to prevent shedding or help regrow hair while running high dose mastron mino hasn't really done much for you Curious what has actually worked it's hard for me because like I don't have personal experience with this sometimes I wonder too if to the point we were just saying because like master on suppressive of estrogen as well if causing estrogen to be lower than the ratio that it needs to be relative to your testosterone can potentially affect circulation to the point that you get extra hair loss Maybe, maybe not that's just speculation on my part but I mean you can always microneedle GHK if you want to it's painful but they can help

[B]

also thyroid thyroid helps too thyroid but I know like if yeah bodybuilders are not gonna they're not pro estrogen well they're

[A]

missing out they know how do you deal with higher on paper T levels but still no benefits I would look at inflammation, insulin resistance and the inflammatory environment in the body and whether or not that's affecting how the testosterone plays out so without knowing more that would be my best guess super low dose GLP one year round heard docs influencers talk about it but Reddit even at 1mg a week boost my RHR to mid 70s from my baseline of mid 60s good long term who knows at the end of the day I do like lotus reta year round but to the point if the heart rate is too high maybe maybe tereptide would be better better year round and maybe you use retta when you want the extra fat loss yeah so that would be

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kind of my thoughts that's my thoughts

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Randy says found a high adrenal fatigue Any tips on getting my adrenals to chill out? Well you can always take some lowd dose hydrocortisone for a short time even though I hate that cuz my makes my face look like the Michelin man.

[B]

Yeah and I I did that in April and it will help it will help. Does make me hungrier.

[A]

It does make you hungrier because it

[B]

is make me a Little bit shorter.

[A]

Feels like being on D ball. Feels like being on D ball.

[B]

Yeah. It kind of feel like a water log balloon. You're strong feeling of like kind of being on predisone probably. Yeah, it's that same kind of feeling. Not as watery, not as irritable, but like you still like. It's a little bit of that. But it. I did it for like, I think like two weeks and I think it helped.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then really just cutting out the things that make you stressful.

[A]

Yeah. Stephanie says, have you reconstituted your own C Max Lincoln nail spray? Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Use back or saline. I use saline nasal spray. Just go on Amazon. You can get the Amazon brand saline nasal spray and just use that. And I'd keep it in the fridge if you can and just use it within like two weeks or so and you should be fine. I. It's one of those things, like, because there's no preservative in it, I probably wouldn't use it like four months later even if it was refrigerated. It's probably okay, but just to be safe.

[B]

Probably not to just because of it. Like nasal spray and like the application and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, have a higher chance of bacteria and stuff growing in that.

[A]

What peptides do I do before shoulder surgery for tear and Tinder rep, BPC, TB500KPV, GHK, PEG, MGF and Carx. Boom.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Tina Carlson, PhD, says nicotine is terrible for your skin. I love it. Stay away from that reason. Yeah, I didn't know that, but I'm sure it's true. Also too for fertility purposes. Like, I haven't been using it because there is evidence to show it suppresses.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Sperm parameters. And so that's why I don't use it. It's weird for me because, like, I mean, obviously I've never smoked or anything, but like, if I have nicotine, like, I don't. I have more like fiending for coffee than nicotine. Like nicotine. I'm like, I don't really. I don't know. Like, I know people struggle with that, but like, I just like, whatever.

[B]

Like also it makes me like sometimes it makes you like.

[A]

Yeah, it does. I. I like it. But I'm just saying, like, some people are just like goons. Like they just like have to have it, I think probably. I wonder how much testosterone has to do with that. Meaning low testosterone. People rely on nicotine stimulants. What do you guys think about preventative dose of Telmasartan? I think it's great dosage wise I would probably start with 10-20mg a day which you already have been doing, which is great. And so I like that. I know a lot of doctors that like that for cardiovascular health long term, even if you don't have high blood pressure, If skeletal muscle is a key organ of longevity, at what point do you feel enhanced bodybuilding becomes counterproductive? What PDs would you strictly avoid? I mean let's see. Yeah, there's like that balance where like I think you'd use PEDs to increase muscle to make you healthier for the long term. But then there's obviously diminishing returns to a point. PD is what I strictly avoid obviously. Probably like trend some of those more exotic ones like the orals. I don't think you really need orals so it just is so situation dependent. What?

[B]

I'm just laughing at the person that complains about me saying like so much.

[A]

Well there you go.

[B]

We already go make your own videos dude. Like sorry, like well to the point I'm about to have a JC moment and I need to shut my mouth.

[A]

Well like to the point is like what I was saying earlier is like people will say negative stuff.

[B]

They're probably not even watching it take a shot. Yeah, because I talk about alcohol being

[A]

so Taylor should never apologize.

[B]

Oh, thanks everybody for the sweet comments.

[A]

Training for a marathon I was wondering what peptides would you recommend with the heavy training load marathon wise? I really like Carterine. I think SS31 would be really good to have in the background just to mitigate some of the stress from training. Even a low dose GLP I think would help mitigate some of the inflammation. You don't probably want to do like a high dose of a GLP training for marathon because you're going to like want to maximize yeah. Performance and obviously like have enough calories. But I think like half a milligram of a GLP per week could be really beneficial for athletes in the background for that. So basically think about things to like obviously increase endurance but then also help mitigate some of the oxidative stresses. One of the most important things for training.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Started taking CJC, IPPA, gained 10 pounds and three weeks of water weight. I want to think it's so uncomfortable I just stopped. I mean usually should go in away in a week or two. So. TSH just came back at 3.4. It's 24 months ago. I dropped 35 pounds in that 4 month period on red amount slew ATX NAD likely driven from calorie deficit weight loss. Yes, that could be very common because you're basically body is trying to catch up, especially if you're not using exogenous thyroid hormone by trying to catch up to like make more thyroid to meet the demand, the new demand of the calorie deficit. Someone signs up to Axion basically coach them and talk about blood work markers. No, I do not personally coach you, so do not make that mistake with Axion. It is not a personal coaching thing. It is a group coaching platform. If you want to ask me questions, you definitely can message me privately and ask me questions. If you want to send me your blood work, I'm more than happy to just glance your blood work kind of give me my thoughts. But no, I do not create the is not like peptide coaching where I come in, you come in, they give you a plan because that would require much more than $99 per month. So Axion is great. There's a lot of people in there that coach if you want to come in that could help you and probably do one on one coaching with you. If you meet some people in the group, there's people that do that. But it is not a one on one coaching program. You can come on live calls and ask me questions to which I'm more than happy to answer any questions you have. But I will say that it's, it's not one on one coaching. And so some people come in and they're confused and they pay and then they get really mad because they think that I'm going to be like getting on calls with them and doing stuff and nowhere is that advertised. So just want to be very upfront. It is a group coaching thing. You can come in, you can ask questions, you can post questions in the group and for most people that's all they need. But no, there live streams where you

[B]

can come on and ask.

[A]

Yeah, and you can ask us, you ask us live with your camera on or off. Yeah, live and you can talk to us and everything thing. But no, it's not one on one coaching.

[B]

But there's some amazing coaches.

[A]

Yeah. Recommendation for nad plus dosage and frequency. I mean I think most people, if you're just starting out, start 25 to 50 milligrams, you could go up to 100 milligrams if you need to. And I do it like three times a week. Some people like lower dose every day, some people like higher dose a couple times a week. So yeah, everyone's a like girl. Yeah, I mean it's Just people.

[B]

It's fine. I shouldn't have said anything.

[A]

Recommended dose of tesofensine. I like 250 micrograms. Some people go up to 500 micrograms. Some people go as high as 1 milligram. But I like 250 micrograms where I do. Good. And I know we're running a little long on time, so we'll go ahead and shut it down. For sleep. Aptile Oral better than Sub Q. Oh, I don't know. The. In Acetyl Epitalon oral seems to work better for sleep for me, which is weird because I.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Always think, obviously injections are better, but I don't know, man. That in acetyl epital and oral. That's good stuff.

[B]

I think.

[A]

I think you could probably take that more often than the injectable because it's a lower dose.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're metabolizing orally and everything versus the injectable.

[B]

So. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, crap. I think my mouth froze.

[B]

Oh, there was this.

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No.

[B]

One more question. Are you using your mouse or your.

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It's through the. I'll fix it real quick. Basically, it's through the. The Mac and it disconnected. Am I still on?

[B]

Yeah, you're still on. We're still on. You just can't. No one knows a mouse isn't working other than you, basically.

[A]

Like, I have.

[B]

There's only one. There's only one question left, really.

[A]

There we go. Back at it sometimes. So I have a desktop inside of a closet that is coming to my laptop right now. So I'm actually, like, controlling the desktop for my laptop, because in our studio, that runs everything, like the cameras and stuff. So, anyway, thank you, Christy. She says Axion is the best investment that is. You're. You're too kind, Christy. And it's only as good because we have amazing people like you there in it. I do use gw, which is Carterine. It's amazing for lipids and endurance. Thank you for all the people in the community. Yeah, no, I know making videos is not for everyone. It is definitely can be daunting and whatever. So looks like that's all the comments right at 2 hours and 14 minutes. So thank you, guys. This was an awesome, awesome call. As always. It is a blessing, honor, and privilege to get to do this for you. So thank you for coming on. And without you guys, we don't exist. So whatever shape, form, or fashion is that you support us, just know that it goes so far in helping us bring these messages to you. And for all you guys out there, again, from the bottom of our hearts, thank you so much. Because really, it's a dream come true for me to do these and hopefully that comes through in the content. But I think it'll probably, unfortunately be about a month before we come back because we're going to be out of town in July.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so got a little bit with the holidays and we're gonna be out of town, so we'll still be around. But as far as coffee talks, we

[B]

might be able to do on the weekend of the 4th. I don't think a lot of people will be on, but we could off. We could.

[A]

Yeah. People around. We should be able to do that one. I guess that would be July 4th itself. In the morning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So come wear our American flag T shirts in the morning. Mean the flag of central bankers.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna wear it. Although I used to have this American flag T shirt that had German shepherds. It made the American flag in little, tiny, little German shepherds. Yeah, I don't think I have it anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, thank you guys. Thank you guys so much for joining.

[A]

Yep. We'll talk to you in the next one and be good out there. We love you guys. Peace.

[B]

Bye.