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Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a ch. Chitchat Wednesday too. Hello and welcome to the J Train podcast. This is a Chit Chat Wednesday and I'm very excited to have Katie Nolan on the show. Thank you. Co host or co host of the Casuals podcast which I have been on. How are you? What's going on?
B
Yeah, dude, nothing's going on. I'm good. I'm good. I've. There's a lot of. It's a lot of sports happening right now.
A
It's your season, so I appreciate you making the time. This is your season.
B
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess because everything moves as football moves in the sports media world.
A
Right?
B
But yeah, this is the. This is. It's ramping up. I'm sorry about your Bears tough game.
A
We had such. My parents, we all got bundled up and went to a 7 degree weather game and my parents, we went. We were in the. We were on the side of the stadium where I. I actually want to talk to you about this. You and I, Boston sports fans from that area of the country. It's weird to see. To go like the Bears fans have been kind of conditioned to be like, like pre winning Boston.
B
Miserable.
A
Miserable. Yeah. And it's. It's weird because I remember growing up. Did you listen to W E? I. Did you listen to sports radio at all?
B
Yes. Yes.
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Do you remember. Do you remember the whiner line?
B
Yes.
A
So it was the best.
B
It was my favorite part because it.
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Was the funny part. It was the funniest part that was actually funny. It was actually. So the winer line was on the big show. It was the afternoon big radio show, like the drive time show, which is like the A spot when it comes to radio. It was the 5pm to 6pm window when everyone was in their car and could be listening to sports radio. And they had this thing at like 5:50pm Called the whiner line where you, the fan could just leave a message and they would play the funniest ones. It was just like open, free for all. And I remember the winer line was like at its peak, like 1999 when Pedro comes to. That comes to town and you know, Boston sports team starts losing kind of like games that mattered. And I remember like, you know, I thought it was so funny hearing these, like, voicemails left, but they were from pained places. Like, it could only, like, I think the whiner line now wouldn't even be fun. Like, it. There's too much winning that's happened because I sat in the stadium of Chicago. Caleb throws that pass on fourth down, hits commit in the end zone. We're on that side of the end zone. It.
B
I screamed. I screamed. This is not my team. I do not have a connection to this team.
A
Right?
B
I screamed, screamed. Dan and I both watching this game. When he dropped back to, like, the four, right, we were like, what are you doing?
A
What are you doing?
B
And then he did it. And we were like, oh, that's what you're doing. We screamed. That was. I cannot believe you were there in the stadium.
A
It was the quietest I've ever seen a stadium after a touchdown liter. Literally, everyone did the. My dad kept looking at me going, pass interference. He pushed off. He pushed off. He's cheering for the Bears. He's going. He pushed off. He pushed off.
B
They're going to take it.
A
They're going to take it away. The whole stadium. We're all, like. We're all, like, being careful. Like, we're going to knock something over. It's as if we were going to the kitchen to get a snack and we didn't want our parents to wake up. Everyone was, like, literally, like, on their tippy toes, and then they go to kick it, and you're like, no one had even celebrated. And it was such a weird moment because I was like, man, these people have been conditioned to have a play like that. Not because.
B
Because what's the worst thing is getting excited and then having it taken away, right? To go, like, we're gonna do it, and then it's taken away. And after that happens to you enough times as a human, you go like, I'm just gonna wait until it's 1000% confirmed before I let myself concede, Consider feeling good. Because until that moment, I can't let this all go. Because it's. You just want to love and be happy. I was really pulling for Chicago. I really, really was. And it was a. A bummer. It was a bummer.
A
I just couldn't believe. You're right. Everyone in that stadium was on the same page emotionally.
B
And, like, I'm like, this is what sports is. This is what I keep yelling from the rooftop. Sports is watching and having other people around you, strangers to you, have an emotional ride with you that you understand each other. On you look to your left and to your right, and, yeah, maybe somebody from another team is also there, and that's its own dynamic. But you've also got compatriots. You've got people that might not understand anything about you, and they might not even care to understand about anything about you. They might not be good people, but they are going through the exact same thing you are, and they get it on a cellular level. And you. It is. It's mattering to you the way it's mattering to them. And you're also both hoping for the same thing. We don't get any of that anymore. That's like, basically.
A
It was weird. It is, because you're bringing up a great point. Because I was sitting there, it was like being at a friend's Thanksgiving where the family was, like, really messed up. And I'm like, I'm going to let them take the lead. Like, I am a Bears fan by association with my brother. Like, I'm going to let everyone here and I'm going to be thumbs up, smiles. I'm not going to bring my opinions to this. I'm not going to be like, well, you know, like, I'm never going to, like, be someone that's trying to lead here. And you saw it in the stadium. I'm like. I'm like. And everyone's like, is it real? Is it real? Is it real?
B
That's how they point out, the fakers, that your. That was your, like, doing the three incorrectly. Because, like, everybody clocked like, he's new.
A
He's got to be new.
B
We don't feel that way. He's got to be new.
A
It was wild. I mean, I had such a good time just being there and being a part of it, but, like, yeah, you wanted it to keep going. And. And it was silent on the way out.
B
P.E.
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No one. Like, I know you could tell it was real sports fans, because on the way out, I didn't. I didn't see this. I didn't see anyone, like, swearing at a random guy. There was no fights. It was just like walking out of, like, a funeral.
B
There were probably fights you might not have seen, but there was probably at least a fight. I mean, that much beer. That's a lot.
A
That's true. Probably couldn't afford my sex.
B
Do they sell beer in overtime?
A
No, I think they stopped the sales. I mean, I think they.
B
I imagine they stop.
A
I don't know. It was. It was such a. Like, a fun time, but also, like. And the text I was getting, you Forget like as you said in the beginning, the world moves as the football. As football moves. Like I'm getting texts after that Caleb throw to commit and it's like it's the only thing on tv. We're on the number one rated show in the world at that moment. Yeah, it's crazy.
B
Yeah, man. Oof. Oof. It just was like what a game. And it was on Amazon. Exclusively on Amazon.
A
Is that what it was?
B
So I knew that didn't. You didn't have to. Yeah, you didn't have to deal with that because you were at the game.
A
Right.
B
But people were a little upset that such a big rivalry would be exclude a playoff game between two rivals. Exclusively on a streaming.
A
Are you going, Am I thinking of.
B
The game before it? Am I talking about Green Bay?
A
I think you're talking about Green Bay. That was the Green Bay game. This is, this was on NBC because I know Football night in America was on and Torico did it.
B
That's me getting lost. I'm telling you. It's too much football at once, Jared. I get lost.
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No. I mean, I will be at my shows, will be at the super bowl, my radio show and my podcast. But we are flying out on Friday night. We are coming home before the game. Now, this is obviously a plan that I. You've got to make these plans way before you have any idea who's going to be in the Super Bowl. And I didn't think. I don't know. I know the Patriots had a great season. I didn't think they were. I didn't. I just wasn't. I'm not at that point. I'm not trying to be greedy.
A
Right.
B
I'm not trying to be like, yeah, baby, we're back. I mean, it does kind of feel like maybe we're back, but I'm. I was trying to slow play it. No. Nobody wants an obnoxious Boston sports media person. And so I didn't even consider that the Patriots might be in the Super Bowl. And now I'm starting to have the thoughts of like, okay, should I be thinking about changing my plans if that happens? But here's the thing, Jared. I've been to. I saw the Patriots win the super bowl in overtime. I got to the stadium. I. I was on that Super Bowl. I did like a halftime hit after Lady Gaga. And then after that, I got. The Patriots were losing, you remember?
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Yeah.
B
And it wasn't going well. And I was gonna just watch the game. I was like, I don't want to go to the game just to Watch the Patriots lose the Super Bowl. I was like, I'll just watch it in my hotel. Or I was gonna watch it on set. Then they started breaking the set down and I was like, well, okay, I have tickets to this game. I should just go. I got to the stadium for the second half and like, after all I saw were Patriots, right?
A
You missed all the bad stuff.
B
Missed all the bad.
A
28 to 3.
B
My seats, yes. My seats were in the Fox advertising suite. So nobody goes more nuts when it goes to overtime than them because they are like, this is the first super bowl where we've ever been able to sell even more of the most expensive ads on earth. So they were like, oh my God, like go and absolutely nuts.
A
How does that work?
B
How does.
A
Wait, but how does that work for a Super Bowl? Like is it like built in in a contract? Like if it goes to this, you get like, does it like automatically? Like, does Dunkin Donuts say in their contract if it goes to overtime, you will get the first 30 second commercial agreed upon. Billion dollars in our pocket. Chase Direct Zell. Like, is that what it is?
B
Probably. Probably. Or it's possible they keep a stable of of ads that are like maybe they submit for if there's overtime knowing that it doesn't get. It's probably just repeats of the same ads. But it's also possible it's built in that if the commercial did airs they could argue like I, you'd have to pay us more because this airtime became more valuable. I have no idea. And at the time I should have probably asked, but I was very well.
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It'S tough to ask while they're time was my team. It's tough when it's your team playing.
B
They're all probably on the phone and.
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They'Re on the phone, they're lighting cigars with hundred dollar bills and they're like shut up.
B
Get your attention when the caviar came, right? Yeah, it was nuts. So I, so I feel like that all of this is to say I had my Patriots fan Super bowl experience.
A
Right.
B
I couldn't have written that any better in the movie version of my life.
A
Right.
B
I got to go down to the field after I got to like say vague far away nervous highs to the few Patriots players who I have ever interacted with in person. I got to hug Martellus Bennett on the field with all of the confetti around me. I don't need to go. If they go this year, I think I'm going to come. Going to the super bowl is not as a, in general, having been to a bunch of them.
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Yes.
B
The fan experience isn't as I like it better at home. I like watching it better at home or at a party with friends.
A
Everyone who's ever gone says this. It's the, It's a corporate, it's a marketing meeting. It is, it is for those Fox ad sales people who are lighting the cigars hundreds like it is for them. Like it's not for the young kid who's like, I want to wave the foam finger. Like, it's not even for that.
B
And now, like I said, if you can get there in a reasonable, with a reasonable ticket price and your team is playing and you see them win, it is an incredible Right.
A
But you would never push that.
B
I just mean on a basic. Yeah, and I would never. It's like, I don't know, maybe I just feel like I'm making an excuse because I feel too privileged to go. I'm opting out of going to the.
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No I Super bowl.
B
But I just feel like I would come home.
A
I'm with you. You don't have to be worried. You don't have to double talk on this show. You are correct. But I understand what you're saying. Like, if someone's like, hey, I got, I got four sports dreams in front of me. If one of the sports dreams was go to a Super bowl, you would probably push that one aside and look towards other sports dreams.
B
Yes.
A
Right. And it would depend on the person showing it to you. It would depend on who they are. There's nuance here, but I'm with you. Where I would go, it depends on the base level experience of a Super bowl game. Even if it's your team, you might want to like, you're okay. You know, it's like when I went to Australia, I did shows. Would I tell people they have to go to Australia? No. As a country. You've seen it. You've seen it.
B
Wait, I like Australia. Have you been Australia, though? The people were so interesting. Yeah, I, I, I'm the idiot who didn't think through how seasons worked. And I got, I went over there for a summer. I spent my summer. I had a summer internship program where I went over there when I was in college. It was my study abroad, but I did it when there's no school and it's their winter. It was a huge mistake, but I still had fun. I liked a lot of rain, but I liked, I just liked the people. The people, the people. The dynamic between people was interesting.
A
The people are like the most fun people you've ever met. Like, as a group, they're just fun and down and sure. You know, it's just a lot of.
B
The men were very forward. The men were very like, I want your number. And then they would text you before you got back from the bar and you were like, this is a lot. I don't know about this.
A
This is.
B
I'm not. You got to go a little. You gotta chill out. Be a little meaner to me. I'm not from here. But they all. It was also fascinating. I feel like everyone in Australia knows an Olympian. You're. You're shocked when you're reminded and I don't have the number in front of me and don't ask. My memory for numbers is. But when, when you're confronted with the population of the country and continent of Australia versus its size, you're shocked because it's so few people.
A
Right.
B
In terms of how big and isolated it is. And so it's like everybody kind of knows somebody famous.
A
It's like that.
B
I mean, Olympian, because it's like you have to. Yes.
A
You know, it's like, it's crazy. I. It's funny you say that. Ian Thorpe, the Thorpedo was at one of my shows in Melbourne.
B
There you go.
A
Like of you mentioned Olympian. You could throw a stone. You hit an Olympian. And they are like, did you think.
B
You were funny or what's that? Did he think you were funny?
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Pictures afterwards.
B
Okay, that doesn't mean anything.
A
Well, if. What are you, my mom? I. I'm gonna live in a world where if you take a picture with me, my show. Well, if you take a picture with me, I'm gonna live in a world in my healthiest. That means you like, that means you like me. I'm not gonna live in a world where someone says, let's take a picture, and then they go around going, look at this horrible comedian. I never laughed once at look.
B
But they, it. Sometimes it's like, if you make it, they can have the photo, but if it doesn't get big, big for you, they can just go like, yeah, he was the worst.
A
Don't go to his show.
B
He thought, he thought I liked it. Don't go to his show. It's bad.
A
Big idiot. I took a picture with him.
B
Ironically, I couldn't, I couldn't be a stand up for a number of reasons. But I, I feel like if I were. Sometimes I put myself in the headspace and I and Jim Thorpe were at my show, I would exclusively watch his reactions to see if he thought that I was funny.
A
Well, Jim Thorpe.
B
Are you supposed to do that Would.
A
Be a football player that wasn't from Australia. Ian Thorpe, I think Jim Thorpe.
B
That's what I meant.
A
Isn't Jim Thorpe.
B
Let me take my little name. Yeah, he is. Yes. At least it is a sports name.
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It is a sport. You. I have a question for you. What's the most underrated story in sports right now? What's a sports story you wish we were talking more about? What's the one story?
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No. Underrated. I. College football's a mess. I just started paying attention to college football because I think we talked about this, you and I before, but, like Northeast, it just didn't.
A
Doesn't hit us.
B
It mattered to me as a kid.
A
And nobody's calling into the Winer line to talk about, you know, Notre Dame.
B
Football never came up on that. You're absolutely right. It never came up on the radio. It never like. It just wasn't in the lexicon for me. And then I went to Hofstra. They got rid of their football team, so I never had any. I. I'm envious. Truly envious. College football fandom seems absolutely absurd. Like, all the weirdest parts of football fandom turned up to a million. But right now, because of the changing of the structure of it, because of how long it existed, that's the other thing for me. I've always kind of stayed away from college football professionally in terms of, like, what sports I talk about, because I don't have this connection to it and because I feel like it didn't need any more people coming into it, trying to make money off of it before the play.
A
Right.
B
It just felt very like, who am I to come in and start making money off this? I clearly have seen said before. I don't care that much about it and the players. It was hard for me to watch knowing players weren't getting paid. So I. That is to say, I am pro money getting to the players.
A
Right.
B
The problem is they have not done a good job of, like, integrating this into what systems they had before. It's just sort of been like, we're in a wild west period of college football right now, and it's kind of really messy. Like, earlier this season, we had a coach, Lane Kiffin, who's, like, known for in the past, like, abandoning teams or leaving in a shady way. He ends up having to. He takes a new job at lsu, but because of the way the schedule of college football works, he has to make that Decision and make that announcement before the team he was currently coaching, the Ole Miss Rebels, got into the playoff. And so he had to basically abandon his team again to go take this job and make them go to the playoffs on their own with an interim coach. And that's because of how the structure of the schedule currently is.
A
It wasn't. And because he's so hateable, people really came after him.
B
Because it's Lane Kiffin, right? Yeah.
A
It was an unenviable position.
B
Sure. I also think, like, I just am not. You're not gonna find me on Lane Kiffin's side. I feel like if. If my issue with all of this is, like, listen, if we're trying to teach these kids, if the point of college football, all the narratives they would always say is, like, that we're leading young men. College football coaches are leaders of young men. They them as people and send them out into the world. It's like, well, then what you're teaching them is that it's okay to just abandon your team for a bigger paycheck.
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Right.
B
What you should be saying, if you're really teaching these young men, you should be going, like, yeah, I would love an LSGU gig, but I. I'm coaching this team right now, and I need to see this through. My problem is I don't think Lane Kiffin would ever take that kind of a stand. I don't think the system should be set up to encourage everybody to act the way Lane Kiffin would have.
A
I. I think. I think it's him.
B
They need to somehow fix that.
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He. He's swimming with the current. He wasn't going to swim against it. I mean, if you want to eat healthy but don't want to skip the bread, Hero bread is here to save the day. Hero makes sliced bread, bagels, dinner rolls, and more. High in fiber, low net carb, and zero grams of sugar. You'd never know it's low net carb and high fiber from the texture. It's soft and fluffy, just like you want it to be. Check out their tortillas, croissants, and buttermilk biscuits. I am such a huge fan of Herobred because I like efficiency. I want delicious bread, but I want it low in calories, high in fiber, so it keeps me fuller, longer. And that's what Herobred does. This is efficiency. It's delicious. I keep it in the freezer right behind me. I put in the toaster, and it's ready to go. I'm having eggs and toast, and I love It Hero also has you covered for dinner with their new Hero noodle this year. Hit your goals without giving up your favorite bready dishes. Herobred is offering 10% off your order. Go to Hero Co use code Feather at checkout. That's code Feather at H E R O dot co. Honestly, like you're defending, you're on the side of a player like Carson Beck. Is that the name of the quarterback for Miami? Whoever the court, he, they asked him, you know what he. If he went to class last week and he says, I haven't been to class in two years. So from that standpoint, you go, what are we doing here? Like, are we playing? Is it make believe? That's make believe. So like, it's like, what if I'm laying Kiffin?
B
What does college, right?
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Like, if I'm Lane Kiffin and I'm coaching the guy who's two years out of college, who's making a million dollars a year and getting his, like, I don't know. I, I couldn't smash Lane Kiffin. I, I thought people got off a little bit on him. Like, I think that.
B
Yeah, because if you have to be, you have to take a look at the history. History and the way that Lane Kiffin is. Lane Kiffin is like an online troll, right? Lane Kiffin is just like famously known for being this like smarmy coach's son who just act. Got like a lot of chances when he was young and sort of the way he's handled himself in those situations has indicated his.
A
No, I get, I get why people.
B
With enough information, right?
A
I, I think he was like the worst case scenario of people to be put in this position to like have a reasonable debate.
B
It was always going to be Lane Kiffin, right? It was always going to be Lane Kiffin that this happened to. Point is that mixed with the thing you were saying about Carson Beck. I think a lot of people were very confused when they heard the quarterback of the team playing was. Had already graduated and wasn't expected to take any sort of class. Because for so many years the NCAA hammered home this idea of a student, right? Because they had to. Because it had to remind people that like the payment is the education. And yes, they're getting an education and now they're just abandoned it completely. And you've got the quarterback in a pre game press conference saying directly to the press that no, he doesn't go to class, he graduated two years ago. So he's kind of just here to play football and cash a check and then you Also have guys who are, like, supposed to projecting to go high in the NFL draft who are remaining in college because it would cost them money to go pro right now. There's more money to be made for them staying at the college level than to declare for the NFL draft, which is going to throw that whole thing into confusion. So it's like. It just feels like college football right now is doing something insane. It's like that people always say, building a plane while you're already in the air.
A
Yeah.
B
I have no idea where it's going or what's going to happen, but it feels like something. It needs an adult in the room to, like, clean up a little bit because a lot of different things are competing in this. It's just making.
A
Let me give you some insight from the mind of guy who went to big football school. Who cares? Where did you go to Penn State. So I. And I came into Penn State. Yeah. The tough timing for me.
B
What years? What year you were there?
A
When I got there, there was a story in the paper, the local college paper, assistant coach being tried on, you know. You know, like, oh, that old assistant coach might have done something. And it grew into this huge national story. And the whole time I was there, and then I. When I graduated the next year, it's like national coverage. They're like, so and so disappeared in a river. What happened to that? Like, there was like, all these stories, and they're like, while you were there, and you're like, oh, shit, this was like a real thing. Like, you didn't even know. Penn State's a. I mean, most college towns are bubbles, you know, And I would say Penn State, the thickest of all the bubbles. Like, because you're three hours from Philly, three and a half from Philly, two and a half from Pittsburgh, middle of nowhere. All that matters is football. And it's like. And again, like, when it comes to, like, the Sandusky story, it happening in the background, I think, like. Like this isn't the same, but the. The similar thing of, like, oh, well, that thing will take care of itself. Like, I think that's like, football becomes such a part of your scheduling in your life, and the reason you hang out with people that, like, I know that, like Penn State football, when they lose that first game and they're considered out of it, like the playoff scenario or whatever, the bowl game scenario, the friends die, the friendship goes. That guy you text third, you're done texting them. So I think, you know, like, why do people give money to Nil because they want that, not because they care about that guy playing for their team. It's. I need this team to be the reason I can go to Miami with my college friends.
B
Yeah, that's a really good point.
A
So it's like it, you know, this bubble is going to go. I think, like, if you, you know, because Sandusky comes up every time you mention Penn State. If I'm to make any as, maybe it should. Listen, I'm not. This is not a. I, that whole thing, completely nuts, bizarro. I actually think, you know, the, you know, the, the, the graduates of Penn State should get money back because that comes up in every interview you have ever done. Like, what good is the degree?
B
Yeah.
A
So like, you know, imagine going to an interview, you're 23, and that's the topic of conversation.
B
We had to answer for this your whole interviewing life.
A
When did you go? Can you imagine whatever school you go to, your, your resume, your, your.
B
No, actually I can imagine because I dated a guy who was at Virginia Tech for the shooting.
A
There you go.
B
So I've seen the same thing happen to him where they go, where'd you go to school? And he would say, virginia Tech.
A
And they'd go, oh, and talk about learning improv. Day one, you better take an improv class. If you get a college degree from any school where shit's go down, how do you. Yes. And that.
B
Good point. I know it's tough. I mean, again, so many tragedies.
A
Again, it's tough on the levels. I'm not, I. Let's not get in the business of comparing.
B
No, I don't think anybody was thinking. I don't think you have to say that. I don't think anybody thought that.
A
I hope they know if anyone did that they're the most, the biggest in the world. But I'm saying on the level of like, the. When will the balloon pop? I think this balloon, the college football balloon, will pop way later than it should. Because right now we're watching Indiana. Everyone's like, man, they're doing it the new way. The new way. It's every year is the new way.
B
Yeah. Well, because they keep changing the rules every year. I was trying to make sure and nail down my understanding of the transfer portal because like I said, I'm new here.
A
Yeah.
B
And I just, I know there's like, it's written out somewhere and if I read it enough times, I think I can get it to make sense in my head. And I'm looking into it and I'm like, it has changed. The windows have moved. And the exceptions for when the windows, like, if you make it to the championship, your window opens and is later. They have moved it so many times since ever even opening it. So it's, like, currently really hard to keep track of. And then on the other side of that, that makes me think of the newer players coming into college because now they're allowed to have, like, agents advise them and help them. But in order to be an agent, quote, unquote, to serve that role, I don't think there's any sort of certification. So you can just, like, say you are one. And those people are advising and are responsible for knowing the information to advise these players on how to act and what to do and if they should enter the portal or if they should stay or, like, what? And so there's some kids who have, like, entered the portal, they go to a new school, and then that quarterback decides to stay at the school. So now they've transferred to a new school to be a backup, which then is like, what is. It's just a mess. Everything's kind of.
A
And it's a mess.
B
Probably right. It's gonna stay this way. There's money to be made.
A
There's money to be made, and there's parties to be thrown. I need my link to the third dude I would text from my fraternity to keep.
B
I want college football, too. I know, but I just want somebody to go. Like, the money is obviously here. How do we get it to them properly?
A
It's.
B
That's all.
A
All right, so let's. Let's play a little game before we go, because we. You're busy this time of year.
B
Have we been yapping this whole time? I don't feel like you even asked me a question. Have I just been.
A
Those are the best podcasts. Those are the best ones. So everyone go follow Katie Nolan on all the platforms. Casuals. Great show. I loved being on it. I went on her show and didn't shut the up. It was tons of fun.
B
I'm returning the favor.
A
The favor I sent you. Like, we like to play a little game here. We like to play a little game here on the J Train podcast. Chit Chat Wednesday. We want to learn about you. Okay. I sent you a menu for Buffalo Wild Wings. Okay.
B
You sure did.
A
I want you to click on that menu, and I want. We're at the categories section of Buffalo Wild Wings. You and I are going to go watch a game. Okay. Yeah. What are we doing? You're. I'm leaving you in charge.
B
God, never a good idea.
A
Are you not an orange from the jump?
B
Never a good idea to leave me in charge. No, I like to, I'm a gatherer, so I like to sort of pull. I'll, I'll be the one who goes around and goes, what are we all looking for out of this exception experience? Are we going chicken based only or we want to venture into some apps. What kind of sides do you guys like? Oh, we've got three people that like curly fries and we've got. And then I take that intel back to a central, responsible type A and I go, here's what I've got. And then I let them go. I'll make sure all that. And then while they're doing that, I'll make another round on sauces.
A
So you're doing.
B
I'll gather everybody's intel on sauce.
A
You're more secret. You're like chief of staff. You're more that role when it comes to an ordering situation. Well, yeah, and I appreciate that. That's good. So you're bringing back to the main brain, the creative, the menu creative. You're going back to them being like, yes, here are the hard stats, here are the numbers. We got 10 people here. We've got five people who want wings. We got five people who want, you know, little snacks and appetizers. You take that information, do what you will. We have two gluten free and we got three people who can't do spicy.
B
And you're like, and, and, and there, there we've got. The majority of the people are agnostic to boneless or bone in. So nobody really cares. It's kind of an even split and it all blurs out. I love this and such and such needs a drink. That's what I would give the intel, I would gather and give because otherwise I get lost, I get nervous, I'm hitting the wrong buttons and if something doesn't show up, I like to go, well, you should probably talk to Sarah. Actually put the order in. So go talk to Sarah. You. I can't. I don't want to field complaints if I mess up an order.
A
Listen, there's such. You can't have two quarterbacks. You can't, you know, there's got to be one quarterback. There's got to be a running back. This is, this is you playing a role that is vital. Without this role, the, the hang could fall apart. Now let's, let me give you the stats now. I'm going to make you the creator with it's you Damn.
B
This is. I'm going to throw up.
A
You and me and we're with three other people. So it's five of us. We. Nobody cares. Bone in, bone out, nobody cares. We want a wing forward order, but we want some other surprises along the way.
B
How are you handling this gender breakdown of the five.
A
Three women, two men.
B
Look at us. A progressive football team.
A
That's right. It is a.
B
Okay. I'd say so. I'd say look, when I'm getting wings, and this is maybe just me, but I'm usually aiming for something like six. I need six of them for me. I can go up to probably 10. I can't. But, like, I'm really looking. I mostly do boneless whatever. Yell at your mother about it. I just like a little nugget dipped in some south. Okay. That I'm gonna then dip in other sauce. So I feel like three women. If we're rounding up, would be 30. Now, as a man, how many wings are you? 12, 14. What's the. What are you looking for?
A
I love that you go back to your stat roots and now you're looking for numbers. You. I would say. I would say cat me at 12. I would say, like, put me down for 12. That's. Let's say, like between two men, 24 wings plus whatever extras, let me remind you.
B
Right, right, right. The extras along the way, piece by piece. That's. You're absolutely right. I see they've got combos and stuff here, so it is certainly front of mind. I think I'm seeing like a. I think we would just get a. They've got a 20. 20 wing bundle. What's this, Jared? 20 bone in wings. 20 boneless wings, hand spun in your choice of sauce. Or a dry rub with french fries. Yeah, like a lot of french fries. 2020 means 40. Means we could get two of. You could just get two of those.
A
That's the. That's the move. You've nailed it. I think you're right. You go 20 bone in 20.
B
We also get another app. I think we'd.
A
And then add it.
B
I think we'd also get like an onion ring or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So because you got the fries or the side and then you'd want something like a. I don't know, they probably got like a fried cheese curd or something. I'd add a bunch of those up top.
A
I think you're right. We go 20 bone in wings. 20 boneless wings. We go 10, 10, 10, 10. We get four different flavors. We will discuss those later we get the fries with both of those order extra crispy, please leave them in the fry later. Longer than you'. And then we're gonna add in a cheddar cheese curd as well as a fried pickle.
B
Maybe two.
A
Two cheddar cheese curds, maybe two of each. Fried pickles were out. Yeah, I love it.
B
I think that's good. I think that's good.
A
It's a good order. I'm looking at their chips and house made guacamole. I want nothing to do with it. I want to throw it in the ocean.
B
Nothing to do. It comes in green. It's not for me in this restaurant.
A
Thank you. Good, good work. I might add in the everything pretzel knots because.
B
Okay, I didn't see that.
A
I'm looking at them now. I would throw that in. It would be a last second. The waitress or waiter would go, okay, so I got. They'd like announce the order. They would go, okay, So I got two. I got a 20 bone in buffalo and lemon pepper. I got 20 boneless barbecue and sweet honey glaze. Two fries that come with it extra crispy. Leave them in longer than I think they should go in. I'm going fried pickles and I got a cheddar cheese curd. And I would go, yup, that's it. And then I go, throw in everything pretzel. Not get out of here, run away. Okay, Everything pretzel knot. And as they're running away, and then someone would look at me. You would look at me and go, yeah, good work, good work.
B
Yeah, good work. Naughty, naughty. But I like it. Had to do it exactly right. I think we nailed.
A
I think we nailed it.
B
Can I. I have a. No. I would have. I know. I think go ahead and look. It was all off top. And I'm proud of you. I think honey glaze was a good fourth flavor off the top of your head to toss in there. I think I would swap whatever that is out for a like garlic parm.
A
Okay. You don't think that goes. That's a lot like the lemon pepper.
B
No, I think if you make the lemon pepper the bone in and you make the garlic parm the bone out, the boneless, then I. I think they're different enough.
A
This is what the country needs. See, this type of discussion.
B
I know.
A
Concession each other in the middle. I agree with you. This is, this is what's missing in the country. I think if we got. But if at the beginning of every debate, the presidents had to order buffalo wild wings together before the two candidates sit at a table and they got to discuss what they would get for a group of five at a Buffalo Wild Wings. We'd all see that we're a little bit more alike than we are different.
B
Maybe we're not so different after all.
A
Everyone go follow Kat. Casuals is the podcast. I'm Jared Freed, back next week.
B
Boom.
On this lively Chit Chat Wednesday episode of The JTrain Podcast, host Jared Freid is joined by sports media personality Katie Nolan (“The Casuals” podcast). Their conversation dives deep into football fandom—from the emotional rollercoaster of being a sports fan in stadiums, to Boston sports nostalgia, Super Bowl experiences, the chaotic state of college football, and even the art of ordering wings at Buffalo Wild Wings. It’s a mix of sports psychology, inside-baseball media discussion, and light-hearted food banter.
This episode is a must for fans of behind-the-scenes sports media talk, the psychology of fanhood, and people who ponder why ordering appetizers is a leadership test. Jared and Katie cover everything from the evolution of Boston sports identity, to what’s broken in college football, to what actually makes for a great Super Bowl. And if you ever thought buffalo wings didn’t offer insight into American politics, this episode might change your mind.