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You're a nosy. You want the full sitch? Come to Pop Culture Thursday. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. This is J Train Jared Freed coming alive from Delray Beach, Florida. That's right. Every Thursday is a Pop Culture Thursday where I go to Page Six, I read some headlines and we riff on the articles. And I went through Page Six. We have some fun ones today. I want to thank you for being a listener to the show. We have two sponsors, a bunch of articles to get through. If you are near Baltimore, I got a few tickets left for the show this weekend. Philly, sold out. I'm coming to Char. Not Charlotte, Charleston, Atlanta, Tampa. That's all coming up. Beach Mountain, North Carolina. That was added a little bit late. And then we are adding a show to New York City. The first New York City show is sold out. I'm adding a show. This is, you know, you go, you go through this decision. You're like, do we add it not. I go from sold out show to please come to my show, which is a big pain. It's a, you know, you, you're ta. There's a chance taken. I'm. I'm taking a little bit of a risk because if I'm sitting here until the last day, be like, oh, God, please. And it, like, doesn't sell out, I'll feel badly. I listen. These are all complaints. This is a luxury complaint. This is meant for TikTok Tuesday. I'm just saying, if you're out there, New York City, it's the night before Valentine's Day. I'm adding a second show. Come, come, come. Assemble the group chat and let's get into the show. I, I gotta say, this Ashley Tisdale article and, and story is going to live a long life because it's actually like a perfect gossip story. It's got nostalgia because Ashley Tisdale is from, you know, the Disney Channel days of the millennials. And millennials love nostalgia. And it's got other. I think Hillary Duff is involved. And it's mean girls, it's moms. It's all those things that really, I mean, the article says, Ashley Tisdale exposes toxic celeb mom group filled with mean girl behavior and high school, like, isolation. That could be a porn category for a millennial woman. That headline could literally might have gotten one of you off hearing that. Ashley Tisdale exposes toxic celeb mom group filled with mean girl behavior. That's in quotes and quote, high school. Like, isolation. Like that is, you know, nothing is really. Nothing really tickles the tuchus more than hearing about other people having issues that you. Everyone knows the players. Like, this is a gossip's dream. Also, if you're like a mom, you get to put yourself in the shoes of the moms. This is why we like reality tv. We use them as our avatars. And for Ashley Tisdale to go public with this. Who? Ashley Tisdale, who you know from. From Disney Channel. What do we know her from? High School Musical? Is that what we know her from? And then we knew her from. Made a TikTok where she looked amazing for her age, supposedly. I didn't think she looked amazing for her age. I just thought she just looked good. I didn't think she needed the for her age thing. But, like, again, this is not my world. This is me. This is a story I like. Cause I get to comment from straight dude land over here where I'm, oh, I'm okay. I'm an idiot. I'm stupid. I have no skin in this game. But there are people who will choose Ashley Tisdale as their avatar that will say, that is like me and my mom group. I get annoyed at this. Good. I'm happy she said something. She should say something. Then there's going to be Take the other side. I will say, here are the players. Her lips aren't sealed. Ashley Tisdale took shots at her former, quote, toxic mom group, which included Hillary Duff, Meghan Trainor, and Mandy Moore. That is a murderer's row of millennial nostalgia. Again, are you wet? I asked that respectfully because this group chat that you are now getting a little bit of a look at is all the people you knew and love from a certain era when you didn't have to open bills from a happier time when death wasn't right around the corner when you were young, beautiful, when you were exciting, when you wore crop tops. This is. This is what it's all about for some people. This is all we have. The former Disney Channel star reflected on feeling not cool enough. And here's what Ashley Tisdale is doing. She's trying to rally the victims around her. When you say, quote, not cool enough, everyone sees themselves in that. Everyone goes, ashley Tisdale doesn't feel cool enough even though she's 40. That's something I would be embarrassed to say out loud. I'm 40 and I don't feel cool enough for my mom group. So Ashley Tisdale is first to the story. I'm not saying her side is correct or not correct. She's just first, because I'll take you. I mean, I'll, I'll, I've met Meghan Trainor. Not to, not to name drop and go into, you know, I, again, I got to personalize at some point. Megan Trainor was one of the more delightful people I've ever met. In passing on, like, one of those, like, morning shows, I, I, I will just give you that. I have never met the other players. I'm just saying I am biased towards Meghan Trainer. She's, like, from Martha's Vineyard. She had, like, a Boston accent. I didn't even realize. I was enchanted by Meghan Trainor. And then you see that she's, like, lost a bunch of weight. I think she's on the GLP ones and doing that. Good for her. Okay, so let's go to the article because again, this is one of the, this is catnip for millennial women. And again, me, I, I'm, I'm not going to just put this on women. I, I see this headline, I'm in. I'm interested. I want to know what the gossip is. I do think this will enrage or appease a certain millennial woman. You know, there's these tiktoks where millennial women will stand in front of an article and get judgy and they're like, in full sweatsuits and they look like they haven't showered in 16 days. That woman, it is like she got a call on her phone. Like, it's happening. Ashley Tisdell is talking shit about her group chat, and she's like, let me get on my sweatshirt. She recalled sitting alone. Okay? Always alone. Not the cool girl Ashley Disdell, who looks un the pictures of her. I mean, okay. In a scathing essay for the Cut. So she went and wrote an essay. Oh, she couldn't get more mom than that. The former Disney Channel star reflected on feeling not cool enough after being excluded from hangouts in Thursday's piece. The article's hard to read. The page six really screws you. She recalled sitting alone one night after getting her daughter to bed, feeling totally lost as to what she was doing wrong. To be left out, the the actress, 40, went on to text the group. This is too high school for me, and I don't want to take part in it anymore. I don't want to take part in it anymore. But I'm going to leave so that I can spend time on my essay. I'm writing for this website where everyone will definitely find out you guys are in the group chat. Like, I, I not. Let's, let's not Just take Ashley Tiso side cuz she's first. Although she never considered the moms to be bad people, except for maybe one. Then you can guess who she chose to cut ties with them after the dynamic stopped being healthy and positive. They show her in a picture with a group of moms. So everyone she's ever been seen in a picture with that has a kid is now like a suspect. Tisdale, who shares daughter Jupiter, 4 and daughter Emerson, 1 with husband Christopher French, previously wrote about the estrangement that brought her to tears. In a candid blog post, she railed against the ugly group's mean girl behavior in isolation, which left her feeling hurt, drained, and left out over time. I mean, like, there's a point where you have to say you're a mom with a family. What, what the are you talking about? You, you. There's a point where you have to go grow up, go take, go hang with your husband and your two kids and let's let it's time to be a mom. It's, you know, this whole like the, the group is leaving me out. It's hard to feel bad for someone like this. You know, I, I, I have to say I'm sorry and I'm not looking for someone to get bullied, but at the same time, like, what do you, I do. You teach your kids. Go write an article every time you feel upset to, like, you know, I don't know. I don't know. This is, I realized that there were group text change that didn't include everyone. Yeah, that's called life. Which led to clicks forming within the larger group. Ah, welcome to every group chat ever. She explained. After and after the third or fourth time of seeing social media photos of everyone else at a hangout that I didn't get invited to, it felt like I wasn't really part of the group after all. While the High School Musical star did not name members of the group on either occasion, she no longer follows Duff, 38 and more 41 on Instagram. Well, that's it. That, that's who it is. That there's no other questions to be asked. Although she still does follow Trainer. What I tell you, America's sweetheart, everyone, they keep showing pictures of the group. They are like the most beautiful California cool looking I've ever seen. Reps for Duff, Moore and Trainer have yet to respond to page 6 request for comment on Tisdale's essay. The A List mom group has been making headlines for years. I mean, this is a TV show if it's not already Duff gushed about having a close knit crew to be in the trenches with while speaking to people about their bond in December 2024. I feel like our big connection to one another, even though we're pop stars are on tv, is we love our kids. I want to be in the group chat of all the moms who hate their kids. Where's that chat? The Lizzie McGuire alum raved at the time. What's she gonna say to People magazine? They were little baby. They were little baby worms when we were all first got together and started music class at my house. Oh, she's calling them worms. How hateable. Now we're in the art class together. Now the worms are big worms and we're in the gymnastics class together and we're just like moms, the Metamorphosis singer continued. Mo told in style how grateful she was to be in the Cool mom club. Well, that makes you feel really bad if you're not included in the club. It's the Cool mom club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we leave you out, there's an even cooler mom club. That's a smaller group chat that you're not involved in somehow. I got invited into it and it's the best. How did I get here? Your man do fucking more. Okay, so I love that article. There was another follow up that's probably just. It's just a perfect millennial story. It's just going to hit you right in the pleasure centers to hear that these women are arguing and you can take a side without having to be involved at all. Ashley Tisdale was missing from toxic celeb mom groups. Bougie fall getaway. Oh, they had a fall getaw. It's so hard being a mom. Oh. I mean, you can barely get to your trip to Cancun with the other moms. Asher Tisdale was missing from her former celebrity mom group's fall getaway before blasting them as tossed toxic. So it was the trip that got to her is what they're claiming. The Disney alum wasn't pictured in a group photos taken at the Hotel El Robler in Ojai, California in October. Per snaps shared via MUU founder Janice Gotts Instagram. Who's muu One snap showed got along with Mandy Moore, Hillary Duff smiling, cozying up with their pals. Oh yeah, here's the group. Ah, the hottest group of moms you ever did see, Janice, was the leak. Others showed the mom group sporting green bathrobes. Oh, they're in matching bathrobes, of course. What did they think? Did they think Tisdale wasn't going to write about this. Additional snaps gave an insight to the vacation itinerary including family style meals, games. Mommy said BRB got captioned the snaps. So they go on a trip, they leave everyone behind, the kids with the nannies because life is really hard with a full staff and they're playing. Oh my God, they're playing, they're playing mahjong. They're doing all the 40 year old women things. Meghan Trainor is also notably part of the friend group. However she didn't appear to attend the getaway. Megan Trainor, Switzerland in this thing, a spokesperson forgot what who's her spokesperson? A friend. It's, it's another alias@gmail.com. it's Got's assistant who's really got on Thursday Tisdale who shared for who share. 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Join join at rocket money.com/j train that's rocket money.com/j train rocket money.com/j train so we go back to the stories. We're done with ads. That Tisdale story just makes me so happy. I I gotta say I gotta get into this article because I do like Amy Schumer. I'm a fan as well as have only had really great interactions. But you're seeing this whole thing play out with her divorce. She's getting a divorce. Which people it happens. Amy Schumer models bikinis as she moves forward with no regrets. That's in quotes from Chris Fisher split now I saw this post on Instagram and none of it seemed well to me. I mean the quote forward with no regrets and then it's an eight picture slideshow of you trying on bikinis in your this is the post was what you send a friend while you're packing for your trip that you're taking with your new boyfriend and it's your first time wearing bikinis around them. That's the post any I mean that's what this is for. That's not if those pictures are used in any other way than like if you take these pictures because and you can go look and she looks good. There's nothing. There's no shit to talk about. The pictures are for a very specific thing, and that thing is not on Instagram. The minute you post these on Instagram, it starts. New group chats. It begins. It makes us worry. We are. I will say this. Amy Schumer right now is wading into Britney Spears water. This is. This is has a dash of Spears. And I'm not saying that because I want that to happen. I'm just saying, I mean, she's in this beautiful apartment. The view in the background. This is what you send to your mom. Mom, I'm going on vacation. My new boyfriend and I. It's really important. What do you think of these suits? Do they show too much? Do they not show enough? This is to your best friend put on Instagram. You go, amy, like, like, if I were. This is. There's. There's a mo. As a viewer. I go, oh, as a friend. If I was a friend of hers, I would go, amy, what's going on? You want to talk about anything? The post, I. It's a hard call to make. You might lose her as a friend, but that's a real friend. Amy Schumer feels pretty. The actress put her weight loss transformation on display in a slew of bathing suits over the weekend. Here's the other thing. I am not above putting up a hot picture on Instagram to show the world how good I'm looking. I'm not above that at all. You do it a different way. You do it a more subtle way. That's what separates us from the Spears is the actress. She wrote this. My mom took these photos of me while I was packing for a trip. The comedian captioned on Instagram caption, an Instagram carousel. Sunday, I saw this post. I mean, my mom took these photos of me. I don't think her mom was like, and you're going to post this to your million followers, Right? I don't think the mom said that. The slideshow kicked off with a smiling shot of the star in a strapless red bikini top and matching bottoms with no makeup and no filter. In quotes. I. I know that doesn't help us. That didn't help the post. No makeup, no filter. No. And she looks great. This is like, you know, the, The. The review is of your mind, not your body. The newly single star, 44, modeled a black one piece of strappy purple number and a black bikini and subsequent set and going to get this posted on page six. That's the craziest part, after showing up, like, and here's the thing. If she. If her ex husband was this known rocker, like, if he was known to be this guy who's out about town, who's with every woman, who's. Who's a hookup guy, like, if he was like Tommy Lee, like, if he was like a known guy, we'd go, okay, we get the reasons for these bikini shots. She's out there. She's putting out there. But her husband has only ever been described as on the spectrum and nice, quiet dude. So these pictures that you're posting, it's not like a. Oh, I'm getting. I'm getting back out there. Like, no one's, like, excited for the person who ended it with quiet dude on the spectrum to get back out there. She's missing the mark. This is. And I hate to keep going on and on. It's just. I mean. I mean, this is a lesson for all of us. We all put posts on social media to feed our own ego, our insecurities, all those things. This is a mess. And. And. And it's all on the COVID of. Of. Oh, I'm being funny and I'm being. You know, look at. You know, she's wearing. In the last picture, she's wearing a sweatshirt that says Param Menopause. And it's. It's supposed to be inspirational. Ah, you kind of ruin the inspiration if. If we're not, like, thinking it's all there. All right, let's do another story. I like. I mean, I've gone long on a couple of these because I just find those two stories very interesting. I like this headline because it's a total lie. It's a total lie. Cher thinks Kristen Bell deserves better than Dax Shepard. He must have something that I don't see. Now, Cher went on Dax Shepard's podcast, and so she probably said this with tongue in cheek, like, what could she ever see in you? That is not how this headline reads. There's also been articles, and there's been TikToks made, so page six knows what they're doing. There have been a bunch of TikToks made where it shows Kristen Bell talking about her relationship with Dax Shepard. And it's like, women being like, who would ever want to be in this relationship? And also it shows Dax Shepard kind of being mean to her and giving her shit. Anytime I saw those posts, it just seemed like a couple that was like. Like, that was their kind of, like, their banter. But this title is preying on the Heavily online. Cher believes Kristen Bell deserves better than her husband, Dax Shepard. On Monday's episode of Shepherd's Armchair Expert podcast, he confronted the believe singer by asking who she believes would be a dream partner for Bell. Because I know you think she could do better and I don't disagree. The chips actor point out, see, I don't disagree. I'm the worst. Who do you think she should be with? Although the Grammy winner did not have a person in mind for the burlesque co star, she replied, the truth is I trust her. So you must have something that I don't see. Yeah, this is all. This is one of those stories that. Here's what a normal, rational person does. When you read this, you go, huh. I guess humor is not meant to be reported on. Like when you read a quote from a standup special. When you read a joke written in, in, in print, it. It can be directed to make the everyone look bad. Like this sounds like an argument they're having. Let's say at. At. At. At. At most it's Cher being like kind of like punchy at its most real. It's. I don't see, I don't see what she sees in me either. Who do you think she should be with? Oh, yeah, I don't see it with you. You don't see it with the highly successful good looking dude? Yeah, I don't see it. Who, who could ever understand what she sees in successful rich man with a good body? How could she ever like. I don't even get it. I don't even get the joke. Shepherd then told the pop star 79 that he is not threatened by seeing his wife shine. Declaring love it. The shiner she gets, the better damn. He also noted that he understands nobody's good enough for Bell. Oh, now we've gone too far. Now he's in lie territory. You, he could have stopped at when she does great, I'm the happiest. The minute you go into nobody's good enough for her. Now you're out. Now you're like, now you're fraudulent. Okay, we're gonna do one more and then we're gonna get out of here. This is a compact episode, but we got to the 20 minutes. So I, I mean we are there. So we got to the 20 minutes. I'm gonna do one more story and it's gotta be this one. So there's been like, there have been flight cancellations. Trump's Venezuela operation leads stars, socialites and nightlife gurus strand in the Caribbean. So the Caribbean has Been like big for celebrities doing New Year's Eve. And then there's this invasion of Venezuela and all these flights get canceled. And then they just show. I love the pictures they show. It's Leo with his arms on his side. Like, what's he going to do about his cancel Delta flight? Like, they show, they show Cuba Gooding, Jr's girlfriend. Oh, I'm so stuck. Mike Tyson, all these people that are stuck. And then they show Jeff Ross on a. On a paddle board. And I gotta say, I know Jeff. Jeff's great. The nicest. Not a kind picture to Jeff. They have him. I do not want a picture of me. Hey, look at these celebs stuck in the Caribbean. And then it's me eating a cheeseburger with my shirt off, realizing I'm being photograph. Like, I wouldn't want that on their big report. Like, this is. It's Jeff on a Jeffrey Ross. It's Jeff Ross on a paddle board and he's waving kind of. It looks like he's about to fall over. Like, I don't know. He's probably happy to be in the article that includes, you know, all these big time, you know, Grammy winners and Leonardo Cabrio Oscar winners. They show Natalie Portman, I don't know. That's the choice you have to make. Do you want to look like, like, this is the problem. Whenever they show a comedian in an article that's like a gossipy article, they gotta make him look like a clown. Like, they just can't let him look like a human being. Why can't it be Jeff Ross in his nice going out outfit, his Tommy Bahama while being in the Bahamas. Why does it have to be Jeff? Oh, falling off of a paddle board. Brutal. All right, Pop culture Thursday. We're here every Thursday with your pop culture stories. If you have stories that you want read and riffed on on this show, go, go, go. Send it to J Train po gmail dot com. I'm. I'm fighting a little bit against. We have some recording issue. I don't. I want to make sure we'll do one more and then we'll get out of here. Because I don't want to. I mean, we. 20 minutes is the promise. So I'm. I'm not short changing you. Bethany Frankel contracts infection on face after partying in St. Barts for New Year's Eve. Now, I don't know what group chat exists. What? Ashley Tisdale, Mom's group chat exists, where all these celebrities just know to go to St. Barts. Like, what does. Do they all have the same travel agent? How do they all know St. Barts is the place? Because all I heard about was St. Bart's Alex Earl, Tom Brady, Bethany Frankel. And I gotta say, if St. Barts, like, gave people these trips, if. If this is. If it's someone that works for the St. Barts tourism bureau, I would say great work because I have googled St. Bart's hotels. I am curious. I was looking. It was a great ad for the island of Saint Barts. In the same way it was a great ad when they all went to Jeff Bezos wedding in Italy. I don't even. Bethany Frankel comes back with a. With a. An infection. I'm like, who cares? Where'd you get the infection? I want to see the hotel you stayed in. Bethany Frankel revealed she's suffering from an infection that left a massive rash on her face while vacationing in Saint Bars during the holidays. Pov. You left Saint Bars three days early and brought home a bacterial infection. It doesn't look fun. I will say, though, it doesn't steer me away from Saint parts. There's no uns. There's no bacterial infection that can steer me away from how amazing all these pictures looked of the celebrities. But, I mean, this is like, kind of part brag by. This is what Bethany does. It's a high, low maneuver. I was in St. Barts, but I'm just like you. I got some shit on my face. That's her move. Her move is the I'm with the billionaires, and I'm the most successful person ever. But also, I'm just like you. I'm the. I'm the one that's here eye rolling. All the billionaires. You guys wouldn't even like it. The chicken salad isn't great in St. Barts. It gives you a bacterial infection. It's like, okay, Bethany. It's always the same move with her. I'm a billionaire who's with billionaires. But also, they all suck, and it's not that great. And look at how shitty I have it. All right, pop culture Thursday, back next week, boom.