Dancing with the Stars Hilaria Baldwin Elimination !? with Anna Roisman - CHIT CHAT WEDNESDAY

Summary

The JTrain Podcast: "Dancing with the Stars Hilaria Baldwin Elimination!? with Anna Roisman – CHIT CHAT WEDNESDAY"

Host: Jared Freid
Guest: Anna Roisman
Date: October 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

Jared Freid welcomes comedian, friend, and impersonation expert Anna Roisman to a lively "Chit Chat Wednesday." Together, they dive into Anna’s viral celebrity impressions—especially Hilaria Baldwin—discuss the nuances of pop culture fame and internet controversies, reminisce about 90s and early-2000s movie urban legends, and cap things off with playful improv games featuring Anna’s best character work. This episode is candid, comedic, and full of insider stories from the world of comedy and social media stardom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Childhood Memories, Movies, and Urban Legends

• Weather Talk, Wizard of Oz, and Conspiracy Theories
  • Jared and Anna banter about their locations—Jared in stormy Delray Beach, Anna in sunny Williamsburg (Brooklyn)—and segue into “The Wizard of Oz.”
  • Anna recalls the urban legend of a supposed body hanging in the background of a scene (“My only memory of The Wizard of Oz is that someone died on set... My brother and I would sit there and we would, like, watch it in slow motion and be like, that's the body. I see the ghost.” – Anna, 03:27).
  • They further reference similar legends from “Three Men and a Baby,” pondering if movies like that could ever be remade today.

Online Identity & 90s Nostalgia

• Remaking "You've Got Mail"
  • Discussion on how online dating and anonymity have changed, with Anna and Jared reflecting on the now-bizarre idea of not knowing who one is talking to online.
  • Anna admits to catfishing in AOL chat rooms as a kid:
    • “Yeah, I loved catfishing in chat rooms. That was like a skill I had as a kid. I'd be like, I'm a 55 year old dad from Delray beach looking for a nice young lady. And I was like, this is awesome.” (08:10)
  • Jared jokes this is how Anna’s impersonation skills really started.

Anna's Celebrity Impersonations & Industry Anecdotes

Hilaria Baldwin: Inspiration, Viral Fame, and Awkward Encounters

• Anna’s impressions of Hilaria Baldwin gained viral traction:
  • “I just was obsessed with the story when that broke out, because I think it was friends of hers from high school, from Boston, who are like, hold on. Like, she, her name was Hillary. Like, we went to high school with her.” (14:41)
• Jared dives into why Hilaria’s story is so memeworthy and exasperating, especially for “uninteresting” suburbanites.
  • “If you live in, like a land of like nuance and context... you go, wait a minute. She's 41 and from Weston, Massachusetts, and her name is Hillary. And this was all like a maniacal plan to get riches...” (12:16)
• Their online relationship was rocky: Anna recounts attempts to collaborate, mixed responses, and how Hilaria’s “team” was hyper-controlling about content:
  • “...I pitched these ideas, which really made her look better. And I look like the... And anyway, I didn't. They were like, we're not going to speak on camera. We don't want to do anything with the accent.” (24:00)
  • After collaborating, Anna says: “Her haters came for me as if... I, like, voted for Trump. Like, it was the weirdest thing ever.” (24:56)

The Dancing with the Stars “Unfair Competition” Anecdote

• Anna shares a memorable moment meeting Hilaria Baldwin, who claimed she was too good for DWTS:
  • Quote: “She looks at me and goes, you know, I am a trained ballroom dancer, so if I went on Dancing with the Stars, it would be an unfair competition.” (25:34)
  • Jared and Anna joke about the outsized confidence and meme-ability of Hilaria (“It just wouldn't be fair.” – Anna imitating Hilaria, 27:40).
  • Hilaria was then quickly eliminated (week three) from the show—delighting the comedians.

Other Notable Impressions:

• Kris Jenner:
  • Anna and Jared analyze her tick (the infectious laugh):
    • “You saw something that was in plain sight that no one saw. That laugh.” (19:15)
    • “If you watch the show, too, which I love... she can laugh about it. And I hope I get to be that rich where no matter what happens, right? Just laugh, because my day is going to be fine...” – Anna, 19:24).
• Bethenny Frankel:
  • Anna recounts meeting Bethenny, who immediately demanded an impression on-camera, “like a stage mom.” She reflects on Bethenny’s relentless TikTok output and her “dating concept” scheme.

Loving & Meeting the People You Impersonate

• Jared and Anna discuss the unexpected dynamics of meeting the source of an impersonation:
  • “I love it... my dream is to meet Kris Jenner.” – Anna, 18:45
  • “The best impressions are when... you have one tick that you repeat over and over again to remind.” – Jared, 19:15

Sex and the City: Meeting "Steve" and Character Analysis

• Anna met "Steve" (David Eigenberg), describing him as “the nicest”—bringing character impressions into the real world.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Why Making Fun of Hilaria Baldwin Is Irresistible:

• “Because there's social currency in the year 2025 when you say I have a very interesting background.” – Jared, 12:42

On the Viral Anna/Hilaria Impersonation:

• “I didn't know it blew up until like the LA Times was like, tiktoker Anna Roisman is commenting on Lori Baldwin. I was like, oh my God. LA Times called me a tik tocker.” – Anna, 15:29

On TikTok's Demand for Repetition:

• “If one thing works, there is the temptation to just keep beating that drum. But that's not what we're here for.” – Jared, 16:12

On Hilaria’s DWTS Confidence:

• “...if I went on Dancing with the Stars, it would be an unfair competition.” – Anna as Hilaria, 25:34
• “That's going to be my dreams. And I'm going to think of her going, ‘It just wouldn't be fair. It just wouldn't be fair.’” – Jared, 27:31

On Meeting Bethenny Frankel:

• “And she, like a stage mom, pulled out her phone and goes, go, do me. Go, go.” – Anna, 32:08

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

Opening Banter

• [00:00–03:59] – Opening chat, weather talk, NYC/Florida contrast, Wizard of Oz, childhood movie conspiracy memories.

Pop Culture, Impersonations, & Internet Celebrity

• [11:31–14:41] – Anna discusses awkward impersonation moments, especially with Hilaria Baldwin.
• [14:33–16:46] – How Anna’s Hilaria impression started, its viral reception, and details on the impersonation’s impact.
• [18:42–20:22] – Anna’s celebrity social media encounters and the anatomy of a good impression (focus: Kris Jenner’s laugh).
• [22:52–27:40] – Anna details the attempt to collaborate with Hilaria, the Dancing with the Stars anecdote, internet hate, and fan backlash.
• [29:09–31:38] – Reflections on meeting real TV characters (Steve from Sex and the City), Hollywood’s oddities, and performer survival in the modern landscape.

Impressions Games & Skits

• [33:23–39:37] – Improv games featuring Anna’s impressions:
  • Sex and the City’s Miranda & Steve deal with infidelity
  • Kris Jenner pitches Kim Kardashian a (ridiculous) vibrator brand deal
  • Bethenny Frankel tries to return half-eaten chicken salad at a market

Closing Thoughts

• [39:53–41:12] – More Bethenny, TikTok culture, and shout-outs to Anna’s social media.

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The JTrain Comedy Vibe: Original Tone

• The episode is playful, sarcastic, sometimes self-deprecating, with plenty of “inside baseball” references to comedy, the internet, and the weirdness of celebrity culture.
• Jared is blunt, gossipy, and both lovingly & exasperatingly fixated on pop culture absurdities.
• Anna matches him in energy, offering both sharp takes and extremely funny impressions throughout.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Anna’s celebrity impersonations are both a creative outlet and a minefield, frequently crossing paths with the real people she parodies—with mixed and often humorous results.
• The internet’s reaction to viral content is unpredictable and can unite both fervent fans and haters.
• The lines between content, performance, and “real life” blur in the age of TikTok and social media fame.
• Celebrity self-seriousness is often the best fuel for parody and internet memes, as seen with Hilaria Baldwin’s self-mythologizing and overconfidence.

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Follow & See More

• Anna Roisman: @AnnaRoisman on Instagram/TikTok — find her impressions and live shows.
• Jared Freid: For tour info, see JaredFreid.com
• Both will be performing live in Washington, D.C. on October 23, 2025.

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Transcript

[A]

Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a ch Chat Wednesday too. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. This is J Train Jared Freed coming you live from Delray Beach, Florida. That's right, every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday where I sit with a comedian, an expert, a friend. Today we have all three. They are a comedian, they are a friend. They are an expert in mimicking some of your favorite celebrities. Anna Reisman, thank you for coming on the show.

[B]

Hi. Thank you for having me. I was like, wait, what am I an expert in? I was waiting for it to drop.

[A]

I can find an expertise. I, I, I, I, I am so excited you're here. What's going on? Where are you? What are you doing? This is a good start to this.

[B]

I'm excited to be here. I'm in Brooklyn right now. I'm in Williamsburg, you know, kicking it. It's beautiful out. I'm like staring outside and I'm like, I should go outside today.

[A]

I just left New York early. I took an early flight and got back to Delray beach this morning, 10am So I took the 7:10 flight and I landed in what looks like the prelude to the storm that came through Kansas that lifted.

[B]

Wait, really?

[A]

Dorothy? Off into the O. Like, it just looks like, you know, like the pre storm wind where you're like going to happen here.

[B]

You're getting the Wicked. The Wicked early screening right now.

[A]

Yeah, this is wicked too. Just, it's brewing here.

[B]

Okay. That makes me feel good. It never happens for New York where we're like, it's beautiful out.

[A]

And you're like, it never goes the other way. I was like, oh, I'm going to go play golf. I have a good weekend. And I flew into like, it's not it, it's, it's also to keep with the wicked, the wizard of Oz theme. It's gray. It's like before they got into technic color. Like it is pre Technicolor. Oh, like, can you imagine how much of a shock that was then?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, wasn't that the first movie in color? Wasn't that the first one?

[B]

Was it the first? If so, I thought that was a colorful movie to start with.

[A]

Well, that, but I thought that was like the big reveal. I, I could be making this up. I thought that was, like, the first movie because they. It was always my assumption that this was, like the move that bus moment where they were like. They were like, we're in gray, black and white. And then she goes to this new world and, like, voila. Look what we can do. Look at Hollywood. I. I always thought that was the. The premise of, like, half the movie, but maybe I'm just making. I'm. I'm okay thinking that you need someone.

[B]

You're probably right. I don't. I. I remember it, but do you know my only memory of the wizard of Oz is that someone died on set. Do you remember this? And I would re. Watch the part where they're like, you can see a body hanging in the tree. In the tree.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

It's like a conspiracy theory that I somehow learned that, like, 10 years old, and my brother and I would sit there and we would, like, watch it in slow motion and be like, that's the body. I see the ghost. That's who they're talking about.

[A]

What a weird reason to watch. Like, your parents probably came in the living room and they're like, oh, isn't it nice watching a big movie? They're watching a whole movie, and you guys are like, when's the dead body?

[B]

Literally, that. That was. That's like a memory I have. I'm like, remember in the wizard of Oz? Like, you know, same thing with Three Men and a baby. Anyway, I was on the wrong.

[A]

And a baby had a death.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

When?

[B]

On set. On set. And then there's this whole theory you can see the ghost in it. I'm not making this up. There's like, there are probably. You know, I was in the wrong AOL chat rooms back then, probably. But, like, there are Reddit threads, I'm sure that cover this.

[A]

I'm sure there's someone listening that's like, just like they're running to a phone to DM us. Like the real story now. I mean, I. I'm. What other movies have dead. But these are not the real Three Men and Baby. Do you think that could be remade today? Do you think that would be a fun re. I think that'd be a fun remake. Why wouldn't.

[B]

I think that'd be a fun remake?

[A]

Yeah, why wouldn't they? Like, that's a movie of all the movies to remake. Three Men and a Baby. And then they did Three Men and a Little Lady.

[B]

Oh, yeah. The 300 Baby today, though, would be a different. It would be three men who are like, all in a relationship and they're raising a baby. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, so they're a throuple and they're polyamorous and they all raise the baby. Why can't it just be a fun. You know, like, it is funny to think, like, I get that. Like, I get how that could be the way we do that movie. But, like, I hate to, like, turn into, like, you know, Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Like, all of a sudden, like, I'm, you know, picketing outside of a abortion clinic, but I'm like, I don't know, like, three men and a baby. The whole premise was like, these three men are still trying to. Trying to fuck.

[B]

I.

[A]

Like, one of them could be gay. I. You know, I'm not saying that.

[B]

But not all three. That Too much. Too much.

[A]

I don't want. Well, they could all be gay. I don't mind if they're all gay. Let me just say that. Okay. Don't come for me, but you don't.

[B]

Want them to all be together.

[A]

I love when, like, I thought Will and Grace. I thought it was almost wonderful that Jack and Will were just buddies.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

In the same way that Will and Grace. Or, like, it was a platonic. You know, we could be attracting each other, but no. And then they kind of would, like, hint at it. They'd, like. They'd have, like a moment every. Every two years were like, are we. You know, like. Like, you know, like. I. I don't know. I kind of like that. That was. Show the way it was portrayed. Made it more real. If it was three gay men with a little lady, a little baby.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't know. I think we're on this. I don't know. All the remakes.

[B]

Yeah. I just watch the studio.

[A]

Thanks. We did you've Got Mail for you up where we looked back on you've Got Mail as the original modern dating movie.

[B]

I love that. I love that movie.

[A]

That movie today. I guess it would be like. I guess it would be impossible. The idea that it's a blind date situation. One knows, one doesn't. You'd really have to invent some sort of crazy gimmick. These two people did not know who each other are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or they have, like, a burner account and they've, like, catfished the person. And now. And, like, that would be, like, not fun at all. That could go in the scary direction. Unless it's the woman doing it to the man.

[B]

It is crazy to think that, like, that's how people met. Like, in a Chat room. You could just message someone from a chat room.

[A]

Well, we were talking about how it's more dangerous then, like, yeah, because at least now there's like you have staked your ground on the Internet. Like, even if you haven't, you have like, I have a LinkedIn. I'm a real human. There's ways to know if someone's a real human, then it's just shop girl NY in the chat room who's like, yeah, I live on the Upper west side. And the guy's like, I'm New York. One, two, three. I live on the Upper west side. You just have to believe that.

[B]

Yeah, I loved catfishing in chat rooms. That was like a skill I had as a kid. I'd be like, I'm a 55 year old dad from Delray beach looking for a nice young lady. And I was like, this is awesome.

[A]

What a, what a childhood you had. Mornings looking for dead bodies and movies, afternoons becoming a middle aged man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I love people. Yeah. So that was your first time impersonating? You know, probably. That was probably where it all came from.

[B]

I feel like I know this type. Yeah.

[A]

Now you have your story for on the couch. When you go on like, like Fallon or Colber, whatever or Kimmel. You go on and they're like, how did it all start? And you're like, I was just approaching young kids on the Internet as a dad, even though I wasn't exactly.

[B]

I was like, I'll. I'll get on that show to catch a Predator. You watch.

[A]

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[B]

Awkward.

[A]

Who suck. Because now you know the people and it seems like you have a good relationship with them. And that would annoy me. I'd be like, oh, no, I can't. Like, they've been cool about it.

[B]

Some have been cool, some have not been cool about it.

[A]

Who has not been cool?

[B]

Well, I don't know. She came around. But hilarious. Baldwin, I don't think was very cool about it for a long time. And then she came around.

[A]

Hear that? Oh, that makes me. That actually makes me a lot happier. I didn't want her to be because I saw it. So you do.

[B]

But I don't think she's cool about it anymore.

[A]

Really? So it goes back and forth.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So you do Hilaria Baldwin, which is my. One of my favorites of yours because.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

She is to be trolled like it in this modern day and age. Like, if you. If you live your life without nuance, you go, oh, that's Hilaria. She has seven kids and she's married to Alec Baldwin. And that's it. Like, done. We're done here. She's a nice woman. She. This is great. But if you live in, like a land of like nuance and context, which smart people do. You go, wait a minute. She's 41 and from Weston, Massachusetts, and her name is Hillary. And this was all like a maniacal plan to get riches and fame by co opting a whole culture that is not your own. And someone would be like, well, why? Like, my parents would be like, why would someone suddenly be Spanish? And I'm like, because there's social currency in the year 2025. When you say I have a very interesting background. Like, yeah. And. And I get offended as not interesting. Grew up outside of a suburbs. Like, like my reason for being angered at it. I'm not gonna become one of the moms against that are burning books again. I'm not gonna do that. But I'm saying as Joe Loser, uninteresting, no good backstory. People would fall asleep as I told them about my childhood. I'm mad that she's leaving me. She's part of my culture, you know? Cause I'm from Needham and I know Weston.

[B]

Did you go to high school together?

[A]

Were the same age? Like, like, like, would I be farther along in comedy if I was yatted. Yatted. Read. And I faked an accent and reached out to publications because I had the time and money to do that. Like, so she annoys me. I, I openly. And I know I'm maybe, I hope I'm not ruining. I don't want to ruin your relationship with her because I, I'm sure it helps. But you, you have. When you started impersonating her, I was like, yeah, like, I'm like the loser at home on Reddit. Like, get her, Hannah.

[B]

It's been a journey. I didn't mean to do her at first. It was an accident. Like, usually I plan, I buy a wig or a costume or something.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Hers was an accident. I just was obsessed with the story when that broke out, because I think it was friends of hers from high school, from Boston, who are like, hold on. Like, she, her name was Hillary. Like, we went to high school with her. And then.

[A]

What is this?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, she went to NYU after, like, you know, and, and I was sitting on my couch.

[A]

I'm sorry to interrupt, but I hate someone who says salsa with an accent who's white. So like, this is like such a different level. This is like a crazier level to me. Okay, so go on.

[B]

Like when you're out eating with someone and they're ordering and they're like, I'll have those enchala. And you're like, yeah. And you're like, you just ordered a Diet Coke.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I have a cousin who went to. Went on a cruise once. So now I say enata. Yeah, Like I. Yeah, okay.

[B]

So I was on my couch in the pandemic in pajamas, no makeup, whatever, and I was like, I get it, you guys. I went to Universidad de Boston and it's a 10 second TikTok. And like, I didn't know it blew up until like the LA Times was like, tick tocker. Anna Royman is commenting on Lori Baldwin. I was like, oh my God. LA Times called me a tick tocker. Like, career change.

[A]

You're like, wow, I'm Gen Z now. I. I took 10 years off of my life.

[B]

Yeah. And so people were like, more and more. And then no matter what I did for a good time there online, they were like, this is funny, but we want more. Hilaria and I. Oh, God.

[A]

As. As Hilaria would say, dios mios. Yeah, that's the trap. Well, that's the trap of TikTok and I. I think we all, you know, if you're putting out content into the world, if you're putting out comedy in the world, if one thing works, there is the temptation to just keep beating that drum. But that's not what we're here for. Like, you're here to be a comedian and to do. And so. So that one wasn't. So when did she reach out? How did you know? It was awkward.

[B]

Well, I had reached out.

[A]

Cease and desist.

[B]

I reached out on her birthday. Well, I knew she had. People were like, block not reporting my tiktoks. I knew that. I knew some. Someone was out there, like reporting some of them because I would get a notification or whatever. And I was.

[A]

But that's the crazy thing about the Internet. Like, you can't disagree with this is a person to be made fun of like, that. It's just inarguable.

[B]

It's like her husband was trump on snl. I'm like, she can't take the joke. Like, take the joke. I'm clearly a caricature of her, but.

[A]

Oh, clearly. And you're, I mean, you're, you're going, como se dj? You know, like all that shit. Clearly. But I think what happens on the Internet is someone sees themselves in the other person and decides to be there. You know, their, their soldier. And because. So what happens is, you know, Hilaria, who's a master manipulator, will probably say something along the lines of like, how could you do this to a mother? And now you've. You've brought out the bugle to say, mothers of America, mothers being attacked. And then here you can hear, you know, the stampede of annoying moms coming through to be like, we don't care. Context and nuance. We. You're attacking a mom. Like, I have this with Golden Bachelor. Like, if I make fun of the show, I'm making fun of old people. And it's like, I never called any of them old. I never said that word. You know, like, you took this to a level that was really insecure. But I. Okay, so you're getting reported.

[B]

Yeah, so. And then when I wished her a happy birthday, I always. I think it's so funny to meet the people you do an impersonation of. I don't care who they are. Like, my dream is to meet Kris Jenner. I have not had any interaction with her, but I'm convinced it's going to happen at some point.

[A]

And Kris Jenner is wonderful. It's really.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

And. And because I. I love her. You know, the best impressions are when you don't. They have a. I mean, what impressions? When they're done, right? You have one tick that you repeat over and over again to remind. Right? Is that the game? You basically find a tick that they do and you try to, like, insert it. Aaria is easy because you can just go Spanish. It just doesn't matter. But the Kris Jenner one, you saw something that was in plain sight that no one saw. That laugh.

[B]

Yeah, her laugh. She's.

[A]

And that she does.

[B]

Happy.

[A]

She's. I mean, why wouldn't she be happy? This woman, you know, like, she's so positive.

[B]

Like, if you watch the show, too, which I love, I mean, every time I see her, no matter what it is, she can laugh about it. And I hope I get to be that rich where no matter what happens, right? Just laugh, because my day is going to be fine no matter what. And I think that's what I love about her.

[A]

And you do the laugh, but, like, every time I hear the laugh, I'm like, that. Yeah, that's her. You know, like, so you have anymore you laugh as Chris. It's just.

[B]

I don't. Yeah, I'll be at dinner and I'll laugh. And my friend's like, that's the Chris laugh. I'm like, I don't have a laugh. I don't know how to do it anymore.

[A]

It's gone.

[B]

It's gone.

[A]

So. So you like meeting the people. You like meeting someone you impersonate.

[B]

I love it. So I had reached out to Hilaria and never heard, like, a DM. Yeah. I said, hey, girl, happy birthday. Her birthday's January 6th.

[A]

Is it really?

[B]

Yeah. So I was like, God, the insurrection. Happy birthday. I know this because Alec put out this crazy video a couple years ago saying, Tomorrow's January 6th. We celebrate hilarious birthday. Please follow my wife. Did you ever see this? I played in my one woman show. He does this video. Please follow my wife so she can get to a million followers for her birthday day. That was what he wanted. And it's a weird video.

[A]

And it goes on.

[B]

And I was like, alive. And you're like, why is he doing. And then I think that he bought him because she got to a million somehow in, in a couple hours.

[A]

Well, he wants to take the financial burden off himself. He wants her to, like, get brand deals so that he's like, yeah, like, is there something to do? I, I, I think that is her having a gen. I knew someone who had a birthday. No. You know, when they had a birthday. This is even funnier. They were so mad. I remember I was, I was, I was seeing someone. You know, we were dating at the time, and their birthday was when the same day that people put up the black square for Black Lives Matter.

[B]

Like, that day in the same day.

[A]

And they were like, and it's like, it's one of those things. They were like, like, the, the birthday's over. Like, you weren't even born anymore. Like, you're not gonna do your fun brunch pictures on story. Like, can you imagine your stories? Like the little tiny dots with all your friends sharing in addition to their Black Lives Matter black square. Like, that is like, to me, that is the height of comedy. Like, it is so awkward for them. I, I, it's like a Curb sketch. It is a curb. You're totally right. That is a Curb episode that is just, it's just perfect. It's like, and like, and you, you hear that. And like, I, you know, it's like one of those things where, like, why would you, like, if someone was like, why would you make fun of Hilaria? Why would it be funny that the black square day is the same day as someone's birthday? I'd be like, good luck with everything. We don't need to talk anymore. You don't need to listen to this podcast. You don't need to interact with me. We are two different people who see things two different ways. That's okay. Okay. So you wish her a happy birthday and Happy Insurrection Day. And you're like, and she never gets back.

[B]

Let's make a video together. We'll break the Internet. That's what I said.

[A]

Well, it is good for you and it's good for her, and it's why it annoys me. I don't want her to be cool. But there are. It would make her cooler if she got along with it.

[B]

Yeah, well, she never responded. And then I was talking about it. I was out, like, at a bar with comedy friends, and they were like, just write her again. I said, her book just came out. And it. I looked it up on Amazon. It had, like, one star. And I was like, maybe we should. Maybe now's the time to strike again. I was like, maybe we should promote the book. Like, wouldn't that be funny? And I message her right away, and she gets back, like, within seconds. I was like, congrats on the book. Want to make that video?

[A]

And she was like, I'm in.

[B]

She's like, yeah, well, she was sort of. You can tell. I feel bad now. I. She's. She's a little insecure about it all, but she was down.

[A]

And then when I pitched ideas, though, like, you did. I understand maybe you have family from Spain, but, like, I. You did this. You know, I also don't care.

[B]

Like, I don't care. I'm like, right.

[A]

I don't hate her. I. I sound like. I. I sound like I'm one of those. The reason she's insecure. I. I'm like, yeah, if she has fun with it is just have fun with it, you know, like, yeah, she.

[B]

Seems to be down, but I pitched this whole. She was like. I never spoke to her after that. It was like her social media team, you know, I'm speaking to this guy. I don't know. He. He. And then I, like, pitched these ideas, which really made her look better. And I look like the. You know, that's the. It is like, I'm the one who's, like, speaking Spanish. And she calls me out, like, what? Like, you know, right? I'm, like, reading the book. And anyway, I didn't. They were like, we're not going to speak on camera. We don't want to do anything with the accent. And I was like, okay. So we did this, like, twin video. I don't know. But it was not good for me, actually, because her haters came for me as if. As if I, like, voted for Trump. Like, I was like, what? Like, it was the weirdest thing. Thing ever.

[A]

So her haters came for You.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So I guess their reasoning would be that you are now team Hilaria and you're agreeing with co opting a culture, I guess, own gain.

[B]

I was like, I met this woman for 20 minutes at a restaurant that she picked. I had a bodyguard with me. My friend Robbie came with me. I was like, I can't get poisoned.

[A]

So since then, have you guys messaged and been cool? Because it seems like she's in the video. No. There's no coolness.

[B]

No. But can I tell you some tea that happened that day? This was like two, three months ago. And I'm trying to make conversation. We're sitting there, she's got like three social media guys, like, filming us, you know, whatever. It was like, it was whatever. And I make conversation. I go, you should go on Dancing with the Stars. Have you thought about that? You'd be so good on that show. And this is the exact response. I'm not making this up. She looks at me and goes, you know, I am a trained ballroom dancer, so if I went on Dancing with the Stars, it would be an unfair competition. And I was like, oh. I said, gabby Windy was a Denver Broncos cheerleader. I was like, there's been a lot of dancers. And she goes, not train ballroom. I'm like, better than the pros. And I was like, oh.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I mean, and here we are.

[A]

She's literally like, I, like, she's a big enough meme right now that I know about it. I don't even watch Dancing with the Stars. And I know the. This is like, heard of me.

[B]

And, you know, she got kicked off last week.

[A]

Yeah. And she's kicked off. But her doing this. If someone came up to me in the street, this is how memed she's been. If someone came out of the street, went like this. Yeah, I would. Hilaria. I get it. Fuck that bitch. Right? And then, like, we'd have a fun laugh. Like, that's what I mean. A J Train podcast exclusive here with Anna Roysman.

[B]

I feel bad saying it out loud, but now that she's kicked off, I'm like, oh, my God. Because I came home and I. I mentioned this to my boyfriend, and then when she got announced on dancing, he's like, she fully called her agents that day and was like, get me on. I should do that.

[A]

That is wild. And to be so confident. Well, that's why she's, you know, like, that's the thing. Like, it's the. It's the person who gets angry. That's the Most fun to make fun of. It's the person who is a little bit too cocky. Doesn't. It's unawareness. It's just.

[B]

Ah, yeah. I sat there, though.

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm going to sleep tonight. I'm going to. I'm going to. That's going to be my dreams. And I'm going to think of her going. It just wouldn't be fair. It just wouldn't be fair.

[B]

It's like week three, she was kicked off.

[A]

Listen, if someone loves Hilaria Baldwin, they hate this episode. We have done 25 minutes.

[B]

I want to say she was very nice in person. She was very nice. She gave me a hug, you know, it was like we were friends. It was totally fine.

[A]

Well, you know, listen, she was professional. I wouldn't say nice. I think nice is different. Professionals is to be, you know, acknowledged. Miranda, when you met Miranda, was she cool?

[B]

Very cool. No. Meeting Steve was the best thing in the whole world because I met you.

[A]

Do Steve, who is Miranda's boyfriend on the show. Her longtime, poor loser boyfriend. No one got castrated more than Steve. Maybe Harry. All the men that were like, okay, guys got castrated on that show. Harry, they made him such a Jewy guy that it was like almost like he was the grandma from the Nanny. Like, he. Him and the grandma from the Nanny were indistinguishable from one another. They were the same Jew that was.

[B]

Like the breakdown for the character. They're like, you're gonna just study the.

[A]

Nanny, Just do the grandma, and we're good. And he's gonna be like, wait, is he gay? No, no, no. The hottest one fucks him. We swear.

[B]

He gets. He gets her to convert, right?

[A]

He. He's like the best character. Everyone loves him, but he acts like the grandma from the Nanny. So he was cool. He must have been, like, honored.

[B]

He was the nicest. I was. I go up, I go, hi, I'm Anna. I'm the comedian who does you on the. And. And he looks at me and goes, roy Smith. Like, I'm on his basketball team. Like, it was like, he's like, oh, my God. He lives in Chicago with his wife. He has such a good life. He's like, on, like, two series that shoot in Chicago so he can, like, live there and raise his kids.

[A]

And he was like, series is he on?

[B]

He's on, like, Chicago Fire or like, whatever those NBC shows, you know, the procedure. Like those firemen shows.

[A]

Firefighters happy. For someone that, like, has that, like. Yeah, when someone has, like, a working regular Acting job. It's like, they did it. They get to go play pretend. And they have, like, a real health insurance. Like, I.

[B]

If I was a really pretty wife and two kids. And he's like. He's like, such a good guy.

[A]

If I found out that Steve, like, that story about Alvin from Cosby show working at Trader Joe's, that's sad, right? And then everyone got mad at people who were, like, affected by that. But, like, it is. I can understand being affected by that. Like, you go, wait a minute. I want the characters that I loved to be fine. Like, I don't want them to have to go and go work for their health insurance. Like that. Like. Like, it drove me crazy. It wasn't like. I guess you could call it pity, but I was like, alvin should be okay. Like, right.

[B]

Because we also think they were so famous for us growing up. Why would they. Why would they not be acting or, like, on another TV show or movies or whatever? Like, it just doesn't make sense. Well, that's kind of happens to people in this business.

[A]

Well, with the flattening of Hollywood right now, like, when people are, like, going out on their own, you're going to have, like, it's going to. Your Uber driver one day will be like, you'll be like, oh, my God, is that. It's me, Rod. Like, you're going to be like. Like, didn't you do mental health stuff? You know? Like, you know, you're gonna. Right? Like, are we gonna be like, I let. That's my fear that I'll be like, you know, Jared. And I'm like, working in the woods, I'd be chopping big beard Jared. Is that the guy that yelled at the Bachelor? And then I'm like, get away. And then they run.

[B]

Because you do your own stuff. Like, I know. Silly as it is to put on wigs, I'm like, you have to figure out how to do your own thing in this industry. You can't wait around, audition or, like, someone.

[A]

Right? So. All right, so I have a game for us to play.

[B]

Great.

[A]

I like doing a game. At the end of these episodes, everyone go follow Anna Roisman. She's hilarious. At Anna Roisman. On Instagram TikTok, you'll get to see Steve. You'll get to see Kris Jenner, Bethany Frankel, who now follows me on Tik Tok. Does she follow you?

[B]

Oh, yeah. We've talked a lot. We met.

[A]

She's active.

[B]

She's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, she's.

[B]

When I met her, I thought we would do A video. And she, like a stage mom, pulled out her phone and goes, go, do me. Go, go.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Put on my tap shoes. I'm like, okay. I'm so sorry, Mom.

[A]

Go. That's so, it's so her. It's. Well, TikTok is like the, like her. And TikTok is peanut butter and jelly because it's, it's an app where she can just go and be herself. And she makes money from it.

[B]

Yeah, 50 TikToks a day.

[A]

Well, because I think it's like the, because she makes money from it. Like, I think she's motivated. Like, I think Bethany, from an outsider, never met her perspective. Like, for her, she's like, when she's like, should I make a TikTok? She's like, should I get a $10,000 check? Yeah, of course. Like, that's, I think that's how her brain would work. Like, you know, she was one of the sharks on Shark Tank. Like, like, that's like a, that's a money maker person. So I think, like, when the worst thing we did was get, like, there should. I don't think there should be a cap, but unless I hope there's not a cap for me, but for her, you go, you gotta go. You can do five a day. Like, you know, like.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. And she's gonna.

[A]

Here's the, here's the game. Okay. I want you to perform these scenes with me as the characters. Love it. Okay. I'm gonna be Miranda. Okay, You're Steve.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I find, I'm Miranda finds Steve's cell phone. It has texts from a woman named Ashley. Okay.

[B]

Are we gone?

[A]

All right, ready? We're, we, we never practice this. I didn't send these ahead, so give us grace, audience.

[B]

No, I would have brought my wig. Okay.

[A]

I know. I didn't even prepare us all. Okay. Steve? Steve? Are you Steve?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I, I, I just saw your phone by the bed. Who's Ashley?

[B]

Oh, Miranda. Oh, no. Oh, she's just an old, she's just an old friend. You know, I ran into her at the, at the, at the courts earlier today. You know, I gave him a three on three, and Ashley was just like, there, you know, no big deal, nothing.

[A]

Why did you say, you look great today? I pick up your phone and her name pops up and it's you saying, you look great today. And then her saying, wow, I loved your cut sleeve shirt. Your arms look so good even though you've gotten older.

[B]

Miranda, come up. That's it. Said all that. I didn't even read all of that. Miranda, no, like I was playing basketball, you know, she was there to see another guy. She was there to see my friend Pete. He was playing, he's point guard. And I was just there, you know, I was in my knick shirt and I look good in it. I look good. And I hadn't seen her in a while, so we got each other's numbers, but it's nothing, man. She doesn't, she's nothing like you. She's not a lawyer. You know, I got a. She doesn't even have red hair. She's nothing. Don't even worry.

[A]

I love the friend Pete. Steve would have a friend Pete. Okay, ready? No one has a friend named Pete more than Steve has a friend named Pete. Okay. Okay, ready. Kris Jenner has a really good opportunity for Kim to do a brand deal with a vibrator company. Okay, I'm Kim.

[B]

Okay. You want me to start?

[A]

You go ahead. Yeah, you approach me with the brand deal doll.

[B]

I just got the best email of the day.

[A]

Oh, really? What, what did the email say?

[B]

Oh, my God. So there's this new company, okay, And I've, I've talked to them before and they, their name is, is Fire Finger. They have a new product out, a vibrator. And they want you to be the face of the product.

[A]

Mom, Mom, I, I, I don't think that's right for me. I think I'm beyond that. I'm a huge celebrity.

[B]

Oh, my God. Look at where you came from, Kimberly. Okay, how did this all begin? A little sex. Sex sells, doll. So I think it's actually gonna be fine. No one's gonna even buy this. They want to offer us a seven figure deal.

[A]

I mean, I have money. I'm not even a redhead. I mean, Firefinger. This should be for Miranda. That.

[B]

No doll. They'll give you a wig. Don't even worry about that. They insane. It's a good product. I use it.

[A]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's, I love that one. That's great.

[B]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

Okay, ready?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Last one. And this. I think you'll be, I think just as good. Okay. I work, I work at a market. I, I work at the supermarket. I'm the manager. Okay, you're Bethany Frankel. Trying to return chicken salad. She's eaten half of it. Yes, ma'. Am. Is there a problem, ma'?

[B]

Am? Yeah, there is a problem. Do you work here? Do you work here?

[A]

Yeah, that's why I'm wearing the uniform. I'm the manager here.

[B]

Listen, I just want to Mr. Solomon, my name's Bethany. I'm a supermodel, okay? I don't know if you recognize me, but people know me, okay? I walk the l' Oreal show. I'm a supermodel, and I have a very strict diet. I only eat chicken salad, okay? I am the queen of chicken salad, bitch. I am.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

I bought this chicken salad yesterday. Here. Yeah, yeah. And it's.

[A]

And we have a great chicken salad. We make it with celery and we do a little bit of a special spice blend. We're very proud of our chicken salad. Is there an issue?

[B]

Yeah, you know, I've had a lot of chicken salad, okay? I know what's da voon and what's da poop? And this chicken salad was absolutely disgusting. This was insane in the bad way.

[A]

Ma', Am, ma', am, I'm looking at it right now. It seems you've eaten half of it. How long did it take you to realize it was no good?

[B]

I had to make six TikToks doing a fucking taste test because some of your people sent it to me. They said, oh, you gotta try this chicken salad. And I said, okay, fine.

[A]

We're very proud of our chicken salad. Yeah. People rave about it.

[B]

I want my money back. I had a stomachache all night. I was up all night, all night.

[A]

Listen, I don't give money back for half eaten chicken salad. It seems you enjoyed it. You ate half.

[B]

$19.

[A]

Is there someone you can maybe give the other half to as a gift?

[B]

No. Let me tell you something. I do taste tests with my cleaning woman and she said, this tastes like shit, okay? She said, return it. So I can't share it with anyone because we tried it together and we said, this is sick. I'm sick over this sick chicken.

[A]

You really get very angry about the chicken salad. It is a passion, you know, there's bigger problems in the world. You know, I. Okay, unseen.

[B]

Who are you?

[A]

Wonderful.

[B]

I do love when she tastes them and she hates them. And, you know, it's like, sent from across the country. And that person whose chicken salad it is is probably sitting there with their phone like, oh, my God, she's tasting our chicken salad. She's like, this is disgusting.

[A]

No remorse, no. No softness. I. I like that she's now doing a dating concept. She keeps calling it a dating concept. And I'm like. And she's like, it's already working. It's like, okay, Bethany, you put together. You put together rich people, like, yeah, they're already fucking, like, come back to us. In 30 years. Like. Like when these people are dying while. Hold. Like, that's not the idea that this concept is, like, everything she does is genius. It's always very extreme.

[B]

I love it, honestly. That's why she's gotten ahead. I'm a huge fan. Yeah.

[A]

Her energy calms me weirdly. It should really make me anxious. And it doesn't anaeroy.

[B]

She got mad the other day.

[A]

Why'd she get mad?

[B]

Go, go watch the other day. Her girl at Hermes is mad at her because she posted about the fake. Yeah, I love.

[A]

Oh, no, I saw her. She was. I saw her defending. Watching videos with no headphones. And you go, this has to be a troll. Like, she wouldn't be okay with anyone. Like, that's where I like. You can't go against the character. Like, if she was in the airport and someone was sitting there watching her on TikTok as loud as her, she wouldn't be, like, cool with it. Like, so, like, you got to, like, stay in.

[B]

Stay in your lane.

[A]

Right? Anna Roisman at Anna Roisman on TikTok and Instagram. So funny. We're going to be in Washington, D.C. on the 23rd, I think. Jared Free.com for all the tickets and go to Anna's website. She's got shows. So funny. Back next week. Boom.