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Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a chit chat Wednesday too. Hello and welcome to the J Train podcast. This is J Train Jared Freed coming to you live from Delray Beach, Florida. That's right, every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday where I sit with a comedian, a friend, an expert. We are two out of three today. You know, we're just meeting now, but he seems like a great guy. Um, so friend would be too far to go. But they are a comedian, they're an expert, I would say, in the. The art of dirty comedy is what I would say their expertise is. And they have a new special that you need to go watch right now called how to make your balls bigger. It is on YouTube. Che Durena, thank you for coming on the show.
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B
Hey, thank you for having me, man. I, yeah, I would say that is an accurate description. Expert of, of dirty comedy.
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How would you. How do you feel about that description? Does that, does that make you annoyed? I'm not trying. This isn't a gotcha show. I'm not trying to annoy you, but I know you from Dirty Things online.
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B
Yeah, no, no, I, I take pride in it. Absolutely there. Someone once told me that my comedy is the smartest jokes about. Come. That's. I was like, that's actually. I love that a Dr. Cummings come a aade.
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It's.
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B
I've always loved like that being sort of the center of my comedy because I do like absurd comedy. That's my favorite stuff. Like the Eric Andre and the Tim and Erics and like all that like super bizarre. Those super bizarre things. A lot of those things are very sexual in the things that they would do. And there's also an absurdity in like just our relationship with sex. We were driven by it. We love to do it. It's a core part of. Of relationships. It's like. But yet we're supposed to have this like, shame about it.
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A
Well, here's my question to that because I think what you say is true. Obviously it's. Is this. So I. The question becomes, were you always dirty or is this something? Cuz I agree with what you're saying. There's room for dirty comedy, like for someone. If anyone was to say, well, I don't like dirty comedy. It does. I would be like, you don't like comedy, then you don't. You, you want to be agreed with. You want someone to mimic you. You don't want any surprise in your life. You don't want to find out that something dirty, like, come, like someone who's the, the court jester of come like che durena the could make you laugh. Like, it makes you kind of look inward, you know?
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
So I, I, I, I disagree with the quote, unquote. You know, this is the, you know, hater of it, which I'm inventing. A person. I, I have never. I guess I might have, but they, I'm sure, but I'm sure you deal with that. Some sort of commenter, if they want to take you down, they kind of take down the idea that they, they would do it in a way where they belittle dirty comedy in some way. But I, but do you come up with this explanation, like, does it work that you're dirty? And then you go, I enjoyed that. Let me keep doing that. Or was there, like an actual, like, I'm gonna be dirty? Because I have, I, I have thoughts on this, but I want to hear what you, what, what do you have to say?
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B
No, this is just my true sense of humor. This is just my, the honest way. I really enjoy expressing myself, and it is kind of where my mind goes, where my creativity goes, and I come up with a lot of things in the space that are, like, very creative and very bizarre. Like, I made this one sketch that remember when people were saying microplastics were in balls.
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A
They were. I, I remember people saying that, like, you're drinking a credit card a year by using plastic bottles, but I, I am familiar with that, but I didn't know those. So, so they smoking like a, like a, like a.
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B
No, no. In balls. People were saying that. Microphones in your balls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
Okay.
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B
No, that was something, that was something that, that was going around. So I made this sketch with this adult creator where the joke was that she had, like, a mouth full of, of semen. And I'm trying to be as clean as possible here.
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A
You can be, you can be dirty. I'm not.
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B
Oh, I can be dirty.
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No, I, I, I, listen, this is whatever you want it to be. I, I, but. So she had a mouth full of microplastics.
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B
Yeah. And then the, the joke, the joke was like, oh, it's like an infomercial. Like, wait, how do you, how do you dispose of these, like, of this safely? Like, and so that's like. And that, like, that's something. That's where my brain goes when I think of, like, how do I make something funny about this?
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A
Right. Like, in the way you get rid of a syringe. There's like, the special syringe area. You're. You're relating that to come with microplastics that can't be in just the sink because you can't adjust it because you can't digest.
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B
Dangerous now. Yeah.
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A
See? Yeah. I always thought, you know, when I was thinking of, like, what I'm trying to do here, I'm like, you know, I had a lot of people that tell me, you're relatable. I was like, well, I guess the relatability is. I always feel that relatable comedy kind of like, you know, if you think of relatable stand up, it's kind of been eradicated by the meme, you know, like, the meme kind of like, is the toll, is the fast pass to the relatable comic being the toll booth worker, if you think about it.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, yeah, because. Go ahead.
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B
Sorry. Go, go. No, no, please finish your thought.
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I just always was like, well, if I make my. So I don't want to be the guy. So a lot of relatable stuff. Age is like a banana. Like, it. It's like, it sounds really hacky very quickly. So, like, I did a whole bit in for my special on the Ick. At the time, I didn't even know the name for it. I found out through the course of doing this bit because my friend said she wouldn't have sex with a guy because he wore khakis. And I was like, okay, that would never happen to me. And then I found out about the name the Ick. And then I'm starting to talk about it, and now the Ick is like, the Ick. Like, you can see any Jim or Joe or Joanne talking about the Ick. And that becomes frustrating because I'm like, I can't be like, well, I was doing it when it was this, you know, when it was fun and original, and it's like, was it original? You're just putting it, you know, know, you can go down the bad part of your brain of like, I'm a fraud, you know, So I.
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B
Well, that's. Every comic. Every comic is going to have that process of like, oh, well, no, I actually suck at this. And I. There's no more jokes, and I can't do this. Even though you've been doing it for years and sell Tickets all over the country. Totally.
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A
So I then came to the conclusion. I was like, I. When I started doing like, you know, I started making everything personal, I was like, if I can't say I, then I'm not brave enough to say it. And I'm not someone who's like, that's become a personal policy. I have to be able to say I because that puts me on the line. Like, that's a little bit more vulnerable. And now it becomes my story. No matter how relatable I am, I have to trust that whatever I am talking about happening in my life will translate through. But that's a harder way to go. Like, do you. I. And it sounds like, do you have this thing with dirty stuff where you're like, I need to go in a direction that is either weird or so personal that I can kind of get away from a joke anyone can make.
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B
I've never thought about it that deeply. I've honestly, like, no, I've never. I've never given it that much that gone that critical on it. Basically, if I'm working on something and then I see it in a meme, I just throw it out. I go, yeah, it's done. It's like, that's just kind of the process. I don't find that I encounter that that much. But I. What I see comics doing to remedy that situation is people just putting their bits out. Now people are just like, are like, oh, I got a topical bit on. Or like, there's that one guy, I don't know what his name was, he just posted, but he had this hilarious RFK bit. Okay. How RFK was like, he wanted to. To take all the pesticides out of foods and stuff. And he's like, those are worm policies. He's got a worm in his brain. And I was like, that's so. That's such a funny take. But that's something you could have saved for a special and right on a half hour. But it's like such of the moment that people are writing these topical bits and then just getting them out right away. But I. I don't find that, I guess definitely because algorithms are not skewed towards like promoting the dirtiest thing all the time. You will see dirty stuff on there, but it's not always going to be what the most viral thing is. I don't find that it infringes on my things too much. And I am talking about a lot of personal experiences, but that's just kind of where went naturally in. In terms of what I was creating.
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A
You know, I was thinking about you because I was like, did you? Is that part of the reason for the success that you've had is like, oh, when everyone was like putting corn on Tik Tok instead of porn and when everyone was kind of like self censoring, like, I, I, you saw on Tik Tok, people were like, don't do you know, the Chinese government doesn't like when you do these things. Like, and then you come in and you' I'm gonna just say butthole. And, and, and do you think that that like, it kind of like gave you a moment to like, own the space?
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B
I think it did. But I also, I started to get hit really hard. And then eventually what I started to do was it just like stretched out my creativity. And then I had to come up with all these different names for like butthole, pussy, dick balls. I would say I like had like a list in my head. I was like, okay, I can't say pussy. So I can say, say like piss mitt. Or I can say like baby Tupperware or I can say like meat cavern. And like, what can I call a dick? A slime snake. Like, I just started like trying to. I. Every video I would have like a different expressions and there were some that stick people really like Southern Stacy for vagina. That was one that they really, that really people would comment that all Southern Stacy.
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A
What made you. Yeah, it also. You're Canadian. Where are you from in Canada?
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B
I. Yeah, I'm from like Vancouver ish area.
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A
That's very Canadian to me. To have like a gently askew name for something.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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For something that like, is like the boys hanging out in a hockey locker room would say, oh yeah, that it
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B
is very hockey talk to have like all these expressions for genitalia. That is like. But I never played hockey, just to be clear. But it is like, it's kind of ingrained though. There's always a hockey guy guy in your school and the hockey broness is, is floating around constantly. That like sh. Letter Kenny style of communication.
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A
Well, I, I went to, you know, I'm from New England. I'm from outside of Boston. My high school was like famously a hockey area. And okay, you know, lettuce for hair like that.
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B
Like. Yes.
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Just that type of vernacular is like,
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B
yeah, almost put your tarp on all those kind of things. Totally. And. And now that language is getting very popular in America because of the Nelk boys. The Nelk boys have like hardcore hockey lingo and they're super popular. With, like, American frat culture. And so now they've started to, like, consume Canadian hockey slang.
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A
That's interesting because you're right. I've noticed that this slang has kind of gotten a little bit wider. And I know of the Nelk boys, just because I didn't know they were Canadian. I didn't know that they.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah. They're super Canadian, though, those guys.
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Right? And. And Vancouver is like the most America of Canada to me.
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B
Vancouver is very. Well, Vancouver is just very granola. And there's a lot of things, like, we do really like hockey and stuff over there, but it doesn't get cold enough where you're, like, skating on a pond and stuff. So I think that part of the hockey culture didn't expand as much. And it's also not that big of an area. Right. There's a bunch of other to do. It's beautiful outside. You can go hiking, you can go skiing, you can go snowboarding, you can go. I. Dude, I used to scuba dive in Vancouver. Like, like, they're. You know, there's so much to do where. Where if you're in, like, Ontario or something like that, there's still tons to do, but you get that brutal winter where, like, hockey season really stretches out.
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A
You are the most positive person I've ever met from Vancouver in my life. It. To me, I've. Every time I've gone there, it's the most miserable people in the most beautiful place. Like, I, like, I. I. Go ahead.
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B
I know. Please, please.
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A
Well, I'm just. Every time I've gone there, I'm like, why is everyone here unhappy? Like, you are an hour away from literally every activity that anyone would want to do. It's young, it's beautiful. There are jobs because all the clothing industry, for some reason, is, like, based out there. And it seems as though to me, Vancouver and I saw you talk about and the special is hilarious. Everyone should go watch it. It's called how to make your balls bigger. It is a perfect brain on the shelf special. You're gonna watch it, you're gonna giggle. You're gonna, like, get into, like, you know, porn and balls and sex and the topics you shouldn't talk about. That is going to be fun to watch in your bed, especially with, like, maybe your significant other. And that's something I want to get to in a second too. But I. I thought Vancouver seems miserable because it's both beautiful, amazing and wonderful, but very expensive in your tax out the ass. So it seems like it's like, it's Water. Water everywhere. Not a drop to drink. It feels as though everyone there has a front row seat for beauty, but can't use it, can't afford it.
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B
Yeah, Vancouver is an insanely expensive city. And it does rain.
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All that's another thing people bring up every single time. You're like, wow, it's a beautiful day. No, it rains all the time. No, no, no, no, no. It's like, okay, well why don't we enjoy today? You know, like.
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B
Yeah, no, but that is a big thing is it does rain. I don't think I could ever live back there. You have to. Some people love the rain. Like, I got family members who like, they love it. They're like, oh, it's a rainy day, you know, to get and stay inside, grab a book or something. I'm like, yeah, but sometimes you have to go out in the rain and then your socks get wet and it's miserable.
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A
I mean, I shit on Winnipeg. That's one of. I had a great weekend in Winnipeg. I loved it there. Yeah, it does feel like you're in solitude. Like it feels like you're far away from everything.
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B
You are when you're in Winnipeg because Winnipeg is like a central city in Manitoba and then there's like nothing for miles in every direction. Like, it's just like, there's some like small little suburbs, but then it's like, it just goes into like wasteland. If you go really far north in, in Manitoba, you can find polar bears. Like, it gets barren over there.
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That's crazy.
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B
But also Winnipeg is like the butt of the joke for a lot of Canada because it is the murder capital of Canada, the stabbing capital of Canada and the racism capital.
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A
I had no idea I. I was there. Great. I had a wonderful weekend.
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B
Oh, great comedy there. Did you do. You did Rumors?
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A
Yeah, I loved it.
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B
Oh, incredible club Rumors is so. Is like one of the best. One of the best clubs in North America. Not just one of the best clubs in Canada, like one of the best clubs in North America.
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A
And the guy runs. It's great. And it's, it's like a comedy club. It is as comedian and place to like work on stuff. But also I just remember being there and they said they, they are very apologetic for having anyone visit and. And they, they seemingly have. And. And I. It's a little bit like they're almost like a little bit like, like, like. I mean, cuz the, the jets left and then came back. They're like so they. You can tell they feel so lucky that the Winnipeg jets are back. They're like, please don't leave us again. It's almost like this, like, spouse that, like, the husband has been cheating, but they're just like, want. They're like, okay, they're trying this time. Like, we should keep him.
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B
You know, there's nothing to do there. There's nothing to do. And I golfed and. Because you were there in the summertime.
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A
No, I was there. Like, they. They said, unseasonably warm in the fall. Like, I think I got the last weekend that you could ever do that. And they were like. And I was like, but it's September 5th. And they're like, no, it's over. It's over.
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B
Yeah, that's a part with Winnipeg as well. There was a time when one winter, Winnipeg was colder than the surface of Mars.
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A
Yeah, that's something. They tell that to you? They said the surface of the moon, and I was like, I don't know what the moon feels like. What are you talking about?
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B
Yeah, so it's brutally cold for most of the year. And they have a fifth season over there. They call it the mud season because it gets so cold you can't salt. You have to put down, like, gravel. And so then when everything melts, the gravel just turns into mud. And then you have this mud season. Season that happens, like, before spring or, like, maybe at the end of spring. I'm not even sure where it. Maybe it's, like, mixed into spring and it's just. It's a gross time. There's like, every car is, like, caked in mud and grossness and that. That's. Yeah, it's. It's a very tough place to live. You're. You're freezing, getting stabbed and covered in mud.
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A
Right? And everyone's being racist towards you if you. If you're not white. I guess so. But I remember doing stand up there, and I was like. I said in the beginning, everyone makes fun of them. But, like, I was like, I kind of, like, enjoyed the, you know, the town and then. But I was like, Vancouver's like, you know, California Canada. I was like, calgary is like, cowboy Canada. And Toronto's like New York Canada. And then Montreal is like, French Canada, you know, like. Like. And I was like. And you guys are Truck stop Canada. Like, that was like, what I kind of referred to as, like, they're the.
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B
The Slurpee capital of the world. They drink the most Slurpees there more than anyone else. And most of the year.
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A
That's, like, a mean joke. No, no, no. That's like, the meanest thing you could ever say. Like, just to call someone from Winnipeg, like, a Slurpee sucker. Like, yeah, it's like a slur.
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B
Yeah, dude. Yeah.
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A
So did you start stand up first, or did the Internet stuff happen? What happened first?
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B
Yeah, I've been doing stand up for probably about seven or eight years before I started doing stuff on social. Like, I moved to Toronto to do stand up. I was living in Mexico first. I lived in Mexico for, like, three years. I was a scuba diving instructor. Then, yeah, I moved to, moved to Toronto. I had, like, no money. I stayed in, like, a youth shelter for a little bit, and then I managed to get, like, a job and save a little bit, and they would let me go out at night and break curfew to go do open mics. And so I was like, so this is pandemic? No, no, this is, like, 2014.
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A
Wait, so the youth shelter that you're in, how old are you?
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B
Yeah, I'm 22, maybe at this time. Yeah.
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A
And there's a curfew at the youth shelter?
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's for sure a curfew, because you can't stay out all night because they're like, you got to come back. You got to stay in your bed. They want to make sure people aren't doing drugs, people aren't getting messed up. And so I would. Yeah, I would. They would let me. I told them I moved here to do. To do comedy, and they were like, you know, that's. That's very brave of you, or whatever they said. And then I had no money. I literally, I moved. I sold my. I was a scuba diving instructor at Mexico. I sold my scuba gear so I could get a plane ticket to fly.
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A
Did you do stand up in Mexico?
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B
I did. We did. So it was like, me and, like, four other guys. It was like three Canadians and one American, and we would just do shows for tourists, and that's how I got started, and I did that for the first year.
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A
What made you start that in Mexico? Like, I, I, I understand it when it's already built for you. Like, New York started. I started in New York, but it was built for me. Like, I could. I could literally just go to bad slava.com and find an open mic and be a comedian. Now I'm a comedian. When you're in Mexico, what makes. What's the impetus? What starts that? Were you guys like, we can make some extra money?
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B
No, I. So I just kind of. They were already doing it, so this thing was already There it was this group of dudes who had this one place once weekend. It was just kind of happenstance that I, like, looked it up and there was a show in the city. My brother had started doing standup, and I had wanted to do standup for a while. I was doing, like, public speaking in high school, and I would make my speeches funny, and that was kind of how, like, I got, like, a bug for it. I would also watch, like, so much comedy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, this was the era where you could, like, binge tons of stuff on Comedy Central. It was Comedy Network in Canada. And then you could also, like, there were specials on YouTube. Well, now there is a bunch of specials. Right, but yours included how to make your.
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A
Your balls bigger out right now.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
Link in the bio this episode. Go watch Flag It Down. It's there waiting for you.
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B
And. Yeah, and then. So that was kind of the motivation was like, I didn't know that you could just do standup from watching stand up. When I was younger, when I was a teen, it was like, oh, I thought you had to be famous. I'm like, look at all these people here. It's clearly because you're famous and stand up as a byproduct of fame. But then my brother was like, I just started doing stand up. And I was like, what do you mean? You just start. He's like, yeah, you just go to open mics. And I was like, what? So then I looked up an open mic in where I was living in Mexico, and I just was like, oh, well, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go do the show. And then I. It went well enough, and I got a bug for it over, like, a year, year and a half. And then I decided time to move to Toronto. And then, yeah, I was in Toronto doing stand up for, like, eight or nine years. I did Just for Laughs. My, like, what fourth year into comedy
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A
Just for Laughs is the festival in Toronto. In Canada. It's actually a TV station that used to be in Canada, and it's like, all comedy. Like, I think also, like, your view on stand up, like, oh, you have to be famous to do stand up. That's like a very Canadian way to look at it, too. Because in Canada, I feel like all the Canadian comics that I know, like, they're like, oh, this is actually a job that, like, a teacher would be like, you could be a comedian. You could be a, you know, like a. It feels more. It feels more, like, normalized there.
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B
No. No way, dude. Like, the Canadian comedy industry, there is no money. It is a it, dude. There's like the. That's why everyone leaves. That's why everyone moves to the States.
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A
Maybe the ones that get out, I'm like, you needed to be good or a pro at it to get out to get here. So I'm only meeting, like, the people who took it seriously, maybe.
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B
And there are tons of super funny people who just never had the bug to leave. And some people make, like, a good living. Yeah, but there's the. The opportunity is just, like, way, way, way, way lower in Canada. But, yeah, I got to do just for laughs, like, my fourth year into comedy. Then I was doing small tours in Canada for like three years or so, maybe four years. Then Covid hit and then. And then when Covet hit, that's when I started just like, pumping stuff out on social media.
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A
What's the first video that goes viral? What's like, the one that you're like, holy.
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B
So the. I. The first one that went viral, I was. It was this video. It was like a bunch of black dudes in a bathroom and there's like, one white girl. That was the video. And then everyone was doing these reactions to it that are like, oh, she's gonna get it, Black train, blah, blah, blah. And then I was like, well, what's a more, like, unique take on this?
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A
Right?
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What, like, if I go a layer deeper, what's the joke I can come up with? And I was like, oh, you're gonna find out very quickly the pecking order of your friend group, group when you're in a situation like this, like, who's the top dog? And you're also going to figure out if you can get the job done with all the boys watching. Do you have what it takes?
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It's very funny that, like, you know, it's like, if anyone wants to, like, belittle comedy, they go, anyone can make that joke. But, yeah, the real. The reality is what you're saying is, like, you have to see the forest through the trees.
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B
Like, yeah, yeah.
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The obvious thing is to be racial and to be like. Anyone would make that. The less obvious is like, oh, my God. And there's a little bit of, you know, vulnerability. I would be afraid to be in that room that now I gotta. And I, yeah. Have to, like, have the. Of my life when generally it doesn't
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B
go that way, like, with everyone watching. And also, yeah, I was like, what's the social media element of this? Like, you and your friends, like, like, there's a pecking order that is going to Be clearly laid out in front of you. My favorite one I ever. I think I did. That was like a layer deeper. Like, that was. This was. This was clearly like a rage bait clip. But it was this girl being interviewed, and they're like, what's your dream fantasy? And she's like, I want to be locked in a room with my. My boyfriend, his brother, his dad, his uncle, and she just keeps naming, like, family members. It's obviously untrue, right? And then everyone's comment reaction is like, oh, you're for the strio. That's worse. And I was like, I made this little sketch where it's me shirtless, and I was just, like, looking around. I was like, it's just nice that we can all get together. That's the funny part. It's hard to get the family together.
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Wow, this woman really did us a favor. Yeah, we used to get. Yeah. I want everyone to go follow Che Durena. Go, go. Obviously, go watch the special. How to make your balls bigger. I had one more question about the special. You do one thing on the special that you can't do without an audience that knows you and comes for your show. And you know this from having done open mics. Getting on the floor during a show can only be done, and you get on the floor to talk about ass licking. And that is a move that can. Oh, I don't think my. I saw that. And I go, that. He did that. He started working on that joke when fans started coming to the show. Because if you've ever been to an open mic and watch someone get on the ground to do whatever bit they dreamt up in their head, it is the most unforgiving silence that has ever existed in the history of silences. Because I. I remember there's, like, times where I've been in open mics and I would see someone get on the
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floor, I'd be like.
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And everyone be like, are they getting on the floor?
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B
And yeah, what is it?
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People. But you can't. But when it's your people, you have the room, you know? Like, I was like, man, it's got to be nice that you had the. The love in the room.
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B
Yeah.
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To put your ass on the ground.
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B
That's one of my favorite jokes. Because it started out as this very small bit, kind of just like the beginning part of it, and then it was doing okay, and I put it on ice, and then I brought it back, like, six months later, and then it started doing a little better. And then I was like. When I was Touring, I was using it and then one day I just was like, I think I was in Minneapolis at a weekend in Minneapolis where I was just really riffing a lot with the joke and I started doing the huge act outs and all this stuff and then the bit like came together and it was like this solidified, like it's like a seven minute ass eating joke.
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Right.
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And I was like, oh, this really. All the pieces came together of like it being this joke that wasn't really working that well. It coming back, working in a big act out. It had like a lot of different elements of comedy and it is about ass eating. But I am really proud of that.
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Good. I. As you should. But I think there's a lot of things in open mics that we. Oh. Are not allowed to do that hold us back. Like I, I think sometimes when I see someone with a special where they're like doing a bit I've seen a thousand times. And I'm not saying about this bit, I'm saying to get on the ground, just add an open mic with all your friends there. It would just be the thing in the world.
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B
Oh, you couldn't. There's no way you could sell it, dude.
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I.
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There's one thing I do do. If I have something that's working on the road, I have to bring it back to like New York. Right. Do it through the clubs.
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Yeah.
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To be like, it's not just good in front of my audience. So I remember doing that bit in New York and it actually hitting and be like, oh, thank God it cooks.
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No, I, I know. Again, it's this weird thing where you go to open mics and you do New York to get good enough to go on the road. And then you get on the road and now you have to make sure the stuff that's working on the road works in New York and back and forth. That's the. Yeah, that's the actual work of a joke.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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Because I, I just remember, I like sometimes I see a bit where I'm like, they're doing on a special and then you go, yeah. Oh, maybe they were just like allowed to do it, you know, like, yeah, maybe it hasn't been done. You know, maybe we were all hearing it in open mics and everyone was like, like I, I like, like the Disney princess joke. I've seen every female comic do an open mic Disney princess joke. And then you see it on special, you go, oh, I guess maybe the audience hasn't. Like I see someone share and I'm like, Maybe you don't. Never made it out of the open mic because we all made each other feel bad, you know?
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Yeah, true. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. No, I do. There is. I mean, it goes both ways, because sometimes you see and you're like, oh, this is absolutely incredible. And then sometimes you see it and you go, yeah, maybe you have been performing in front of your audience too much.
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No, that's the. That's the problem. That's the. That's. Yeah, the. You know, that's the devil's, you know, the. You know, the genie. The genie wish gone wrong of getting an audience. I have the biggest audience in the world, but, like, they're lying to me. They're just happy to be in the room with me. And.
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B
Yeah, well, I think that's. I think the greatest comics go back and they keep doing shows in front of people where they don't know them, and eventually you get to a point where that's hard. And then there's all the tales of, like, Chris Rock digging himself a hole and then digging out and putting no affects on any joke.
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Right?
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Really. See, if the joke itself is good at its core. That's like the. The bigger you get, the more sort of hoops you need to jump through in order to find out if the joke is actually good.
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It's funny. You say, Chris Rock. Chris Rock is the name that kind of everyone says. Because he does do that. I've watched it. And he even said, I saw something where he was like, you have to say it before you can perform it. Like, it's got to be written before you can perform it. And I like, yeah, I think that's, like, a very good piece of advice for, like, any comedian that thinks they have, like. Like, even if you have the. The joke written, maybe you haven't performed it yet. There's a whole nother. Like, now you can get on the ground and do the exorcism part. And then when you did it, I was like, oh, I see the exorcism. That's exactly.
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B
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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A
Let's play a game before we go. Everyone go follow Che Durena how to make your balls bigger. And so we're gonna call this game Make It Dirty.
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B
Okay. Okay.
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A
I'm gonna give you a body part or a sexual act, and you gotta give me another name for it, because you are.
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B
Okay.
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The guy who has different names for things. I wasn't sure what game we could play, because I was like, I don't know how we're gonna go dirtier. Than, you know, like, what's the shock value? But this seems like when you said you have to come up with these different names, I'm like, yeah, okay. Maybe you say a name for something that someone can use with them forever, they can bring it home. This is like the goodie bag. This is the toy. So they can maybe refer to this body part in this fun way. It's now theirs.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Ready? Make it dirty.
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B
Let's do this. I like this. I'm gonna make it dirty.
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A
I'm gonna give you a body part or a sexual act, and you gotta make it dirty.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Anus.
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B
Anus. Mud tunnel.
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Mud tunnel is fun. Mud tunnel is descriptive. Mud tunnel is disgusting. And I like it.
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B
Yes.
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Okay.
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B
Yeah, it's. It's really good. It's like when you. If you hear someone talking about mud tunnel, you know they've had, like, a bad poop. That is.
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Right.
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B
Oh, yeah, my mud tunnel's acting up and.
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Right. And. And my. My sense of this. It's something that if you're with your girlfriend, if you were in a relationship, they would be annoyed at you, but also giggle.
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Yeah, you need that. They give you one of those. Yeah, yeah, that. That little, like, like, soft backhand to the chest that they do. Like the. Like.
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Right.
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Like. Don't call it that. Yeah, that kind of thing.
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A
Penis.
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B
Penis. Oh. Oh, we're going to.
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A
This is a tough one. This is. This is one of the. This is on the Mount Rushmore of genitalia.
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B
Big guy.
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Yeah. This is one you can't mess up.
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B
Can't mess this up.
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Can't mess up. Penis. This is the king to the queen of genitalia. Penis.
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B
Want to go with milk barfer.
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A
But milk barfer. What?
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B
What? What.
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A
What brings us there? You got to talk this out with me.
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B
The milk is sperm and the bar. But I feel like that's too far away from. That's more of, like, the act. Like, I milk bark.
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A
Right. I. I want it to be able to work for flaccid or unflacid or.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. So we're gonna go with. Maybe a. Salami sleeve. Salami alliteration sleeve.
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A
Love it. You know, I always liked. I don't even know if this is Yiddish, but Jewish people say it schmick. Schmeck. Schmeckle.
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B
Schmeck. Yeah, I heard schmeck. Just recently. I heard schmeck.
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A
Yeah, it's schmeckle. Not schmeck. Schmuck.
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B
Oh, schmeckle.
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A
Schmeckle.
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B
Yeah.
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Also, I think my Parents would say you're. You're puppet, but I'm not sure if that's your puppet.
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B
That's. That's what they would call you.
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A
I Stop touching your puppet. Like, I feel like that makes sense to me.
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B
My mom would call it a kulu. I don't know if that goes back to any type of heritage, but it's just her, like, personal slang. She would use the kulu.
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A
I love it. We're all learning. This is how we get to know each other. Okay.
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B
Vagina, vagina. Okay, this. I feel like these are the easiest ones, right? We're gonna go with. I mean, my personal favorite that I would use in my content is Pismet. That is my personal favorite mitt. Mitt? Yeah, you think of, like, an old catcher's mitt or something like that. Like, that's what you. Very descriptive. Okay. Yeah, that's one that I. Piss mitt. I love. It's. Of all the. The weird slang terms I've come up with. That's my favorite.
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A
Okay. I, I. We all have to have a favorite. Bj. A blowjob.
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B
A blowjob.
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A
See, I. I. My brain goes to the wash. But that's. To me, it feels very hockey culture. Hockey locker room.
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B
I'm trying to make it a little bit sweeter in my head. Like, more loving. The piper.
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A
Or like, the piper.
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B
Yeah, you know, she was kissing the piper.
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A
That feels very hockey, too. That's Canadian. Okay, how about. How about going down on a woman?
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B
Going down on a woman. I mean, the most Canadian one. This isn't mine, but the most Canadian one we say is mucking Barn. That's barn. Barn. Yeah, I was mucking her barn. That's a very. That's one I'll just give as a bonus.
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A
That doesn't sound loving. Doesn't sound. That sounds like it's. That sounds like it's patronizing. Like, who would even muck barn?
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B
But that's a big one that we. That I once goes across.
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A
I try to do a bit about this, but there was a guy that came up to me, and he. I was, like, drunk at a wedding, and for some reason, he came up to me and was like, dude, do you munch box? And he called it munch box. And I was like, I'm gonna assume that you're not a fan. Like, it wasn't said in a way, like, munch box. Like you're trying to convince me not to do it.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
He's eight. What are you talking about?
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B
I was like, yeah, he's giving out, like a bad sample at Costco. Do you want to munch some box?
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A
You can't get rid of this.
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B
Ah, okay, so like a good one for. I would say. If. If you want to make it like, intense, you'd be like tasting the Kraken.
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A
That would be Kraken.
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B
Yeah, dude. I was. Dude, I had to taste a cracking.
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A
Yeah, I had to. See. Now I'm getting to know Jay. This is his feelings on. I call it the loving on the downstairs lips. That's like too poetic. That's like almost like.
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B
Yeah, I like it too much or something. Right?
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A
So listen, everyone, go watch the special how to make your balls bigger. Che durena. It's on YouTube. Go follow. Go watch it. It's hilarious. You'll love it. I'm Jared Freed. We're here every Wednesday on a chit chat. Wednesday, back next week. Boom.