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Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them, too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week, too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a chit Chat Wednesday, too. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. This is J Train Jared Freed coming to you live from Delray Beach, Florida. That's right, every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday where I sit with a comedian, a friend, an expert. Today I have all three. Friend, comedian, expert in getting hit by a bus and surviving to tell the tale. His new special is out on Netflix right now called this Just Hit Me. Ryan Hamilton, thank you for coming on. How are you?
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I'm great, thank you. I, I, I pre, I'm all amped up with that introduction. That's really nice.
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You've never seen the introduction because you've never been on the show.
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B
That's true. That's true. I guess this is on me. This is all my fault.
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Well, this is my, this is my question. My first question to you. How does it feel as someone who famously wanted nothing to do with this world that we are in right now, the social media podcast world, And I want everyone, before we even get into this question, go watch the special. It's called. This just hit me. I watched it last night. It is so good. It's so funny. It is appointment Ewing. Watch it with people, Watch it with family. It is the joke. Every joke is a banger, as the kids say. Every joke hits. Every joke is funny. You're going to love it. I loved it. And it's such a great special and I'm, I'm like excited for people to watch it. So pause right now. Put it on your queue. Make sure you watch it. And then also from the point of view of you can watch it with your parents, you can watch it with your girlfriend, you can watch it with your boyfriend, you can watch it with anybody. Go, go, go. This isn't a hide on your phone and, and no one can see you watch it with a group, but you were, you're not.
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B
Thanks, man. That's really nice. I appreciate that.
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But you're not a social. You didn't want. I asked you to come on here. I've asked for years and I'm, I'm the idiot. I'm doing online. I get it. How does it, how does it feel to go lay in the river of, of and let the current Take you away, because I've seen you're on the round now. You're doing it. So how does it feel?
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B
No. Okay, first of all, it's not that I don't respect this whole world. It's.
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I never felt it as a disrespect. I never felt it that way. So I'll ease your mind there.
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B
Okay, great. Because it's just that I don't feel I'm very good at it. It's not where I feel that I really shine in this kind of showbiz world. And so, you know, and I get anxious pretty easy. So I. I've never gotten comfortable in this world, so. But it's necessary. There's no escaping it. So what I do, my little strategy in my head is I'm going to try to avoid this until I have something to promote, and then I will jump in as. As, you know, as much as I
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can to make you feel better. And I'm sure you're experiencing this now. Some people are not good at hosting these things. More people have podcasts than are good at, you know, there. There's not as many people there. There's a lot of podcasts with people who aren't good at doing podcasts. Like, I've been on shows where I'm like, oh, God, I can't believe this is every week I'm hosting their show. And maybe that's me being a douche.
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B
See, I don't have that. I'm not there. I just. I don't go onto it. I can't come in and, like, make it. You know, I get on stage and I go, oh, I know how to do this. When I come on here, I'm still figuring it out. I just don't have the experience to have those kind of chops and legs in this world. And I do understand that it is. That it's. It's. Some people are very gifted, and some people work at this, and it's a great thing, and it is a talent and a skill, and it's super valuable.
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We're a thoughtful conversationalist. When I see you at the seller, we have great conversation. I wouldn't think of you as like, oh, God, I can't imagine him on a podcast. That's not how I would think of you. To me, if you're on a podcast where it's like, what are we doing here? That's the host's fault.
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B
Well, I guess. Yeah, but you gotta be a good guest, too. You have to be engaging. And, you know, I'm Pretty private. So I feel like a lot of times when you have these long conversations online, what happens is if you have a dead spot, even if it's with, you know, even if you're having engaging, if you're doing this for a long time, for an hour, you're gonna have spots, and then you start to dip into like, well, what can I say? That's just gonna be super interesting that I can reveal about myself and those. And I. I like to. I'd rather not do that. I'd rather, you know, have an interesting, engaging conversation that is not driven by necessity to go straight to.
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You know, you bring up a good point. Because so many times I get done with a podcast and I have to turn to someone, whether it be a co host or a producer, and say, did I. Is everything I said okay? Like, am I gonna, like, did I just say the most horrific thing that someone could then put together a militia to? Like, for some reason, they all feel motivated to take me down. Take me down based on this one sentence I said.
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C
And.
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And.
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Right.
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It's a horrible feeling. I. I do understand that.
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B
Yeah. And a lot of it, we, you know, creative people, they have this kind of mind that goes places. That's what makes us creative. So, you know, you can't. You can get away from yourself, and a lot of it's maybe unrealistic, and I realize that. So I try to bring myself down. Like, I just did the Tonight show on Tuesday, and I was going to make a little video about this. The only thing I can see is that one of the photos of me sitting on the couch there. One of my socks is, like, crazy turned around and all wrinkled and looks wild. And I'm like, out of all of the Tonight Show, I did a whole set. I put this suit together, I had conversations with Jimmy, I delivered my thing, bang, bang, bang. And I'm like, why didn't I pull up my sock? You know, it's like, so this one I had. But in stand up, you can control things more. So when I put myself in this world, it's like a million of my socks being messed up, and I'm like, what did I. I see the mistakes I'm making all over the place. So part of this is just, you know, perfectionism, I guess, whatever you want to call it, which is not great for creativity, I think, in a lot of ways.
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So I think, I think I hear you. Everything you're saying is correct. You know, Like, I. And so much of podcasting, again, when there is dead air or someone's trying to get something out of you. I think, you know, something people wouldn't understand about stand up is how. What you said, how in control we are as much as we look out of control. Or what am I gonna say next? When you have an act, you know, the buttons you're pushing, maybe they work better one night than they did the night before. But you do feel very in control as opposed to, hey, come on. Come on my podcast. And you're like, what are we gonna talk about? And they're like, we'll figure it out. And you're like, what?
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B
Yeah, yeah. Which is fun in life. I love having these conversations with my friends. You know, it's like, that's kind of what life is. But then when you're like, you know, I go to this place where I'm like, not that everybody's gonna watch it this way, but it's preserved forever in infinity. Like, this is the co. This is the conversation that everyone will know you and I had forever cemented in history.
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It. It is interesting. I've done at this point, maybe years podcasting, right? And I. The idea that someone could grab out of this one line of years of going on and doing whatever I can to be funny and entertaining and be like, this is what represents Jared, this one line. And that's kind of. That's why people don't do it, you know, that's why people stay away from putting themselves out there. And, you know, and. And it's why people don't tr. You know, you got as my dad would say, that might, that is specific to this special. You gotta play in traffic if you want to get hit.
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B
Yeah, it's true. And that's a good point also. And I do, I have been thinking about this a lot lately, is that I think I'm hurting myself and stunting my creativity growth in some ways because, you know, it was a long time between these specials. Probably too long. I'm a little too protective and whole, maybe too precious, which also isn't good for creativity. And so these kinds of things are very helpful in that way.
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That's a standups mentality, is, is. I think most standups are precious. I mean, you look at how people hold on to bit. I mean, you look what's going on with crowd work clips, right? People are putting out bad crowd work to protect their fine stand up. Like.
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Yes.
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And you go, how is that help? You know, there's, there's a point, there's a flipping point to that. And I, I deal with that like, okay, maybe I should put out less, but make it better and be more thoughtful. You know, I, and I, I kind of fight with that, but. Because then will I disappear? Will I not be top of mind? And you know, you don't want to be top of mind as mediocre comedian, but you also don't want to be forgotten completely.
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Yeah, yeah. It's interesting, this world we lived in about how we put out content because, you know, we have the opportunity to just put it out a lot. And you think about like these entrepreneurs who are building like products and their kind of thinking is put it out and then fix the bugs as it goes, but get it out fast and see how it goes. And I think that's something that we're adopting as we, as artists, as we, as we experiment with these platforms and stuff, because, you know, it can be helpful too to put stuff out and go, oh, I get feedback from this just like I do in a show. But it's really hard to think about it that way. But I do think that that's, you know, you look at like these comedians like Josh Johnson, what he's doing is so interesting where he puts out, I think a half hour every week was his go or something. And he also just put out an HBO special not too long ago, I think, which is interesting that he's used how many hours a year of half hours or something, and he boiled that into an hour special. But it was all released and his audience loves it and they understand that it's not as polished as it's going to be, but they still devour it because they want to hear from him more often.
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Well, the interesting part about that, and I know a little bit about Josh and what he's doing, I know that he would start with. Or his set was the. The evergreen set that was made into the special, but then also in the middle, it was this topical weekly thing that he would put out. And I would be curious, because the thing that happens as someone who puts out stuff that isn't my standup is you start to get angry that the stuff that isn't your standup does well and the standup doesn't do as well.
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B
Right.
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And you start to hate, you know, what do they call it? Something your own baby, you know, killing your own baby. You start to, like, resent your own babies.
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Right.
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You know, because you're not seeing the way you see yourself. So, like, I wonder if Josh has any insecurities and, you know, if. You know, for you, where I. I envy you is, like, it is the. Here's the special. This is what I do. And if I come on to social media, it's to show you more of what I do, which is what you already know, which is the standup. Like, I kind of have all this other stuff that my insecurity is that I'm doing, you know, showing you with my right so that I can do something with my left, that there's a. There's a magician's trick going on, you know, so. Because that is, you know, but. But again, how do I stop this? You know? You know, now I'm years into this. I gotta still make the. The podcast, you know?
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B
Yeah. Yeah. And I have to. I have to evolve in that direction. It's inevitable, really. I mean, like, if you want to do this, that's just the way the world works now. It's. You know, the platforms seem to reward quantity and so in some form, and you can only control the quality so much at a certain point. I don't know. It's such a battle. It's such an interesting place. You know, I talk about this with a lot of people because I'm. I am on that edge where I'm like, it's. It's. I'm starting to go like, this is kind of wild. Like, how long can I go like this?
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But how long can I go of, like, not kind of. Are you saying, like, basically, like, keeping a stiff arm to that world, right?
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B
Yeah. It's like, if I want to keep doing this, it does become necessary. Like, that I, you know, when podcasts were first becoming big, everyone was asking me, I'm like, the pod. And I would go do them. And then I realized walking away, I always felt, I always had this question. Man, I wish I wouldn't have done that.
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Right.
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So then I started going, why am I doing this to myself?
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Well, there's no worse feeling in the world than doing a podcast. And then going, oh, my God, I. I hate it.
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Right, right.
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That experience.
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B
Yeah. And. But the only way to get past that is through kind of. So, you know, I get better at it and I get more comfortable at it. And so. But I did have this kind of reputation. I think that people even stopped asking me because they were just like, ryan doesn't want to do that. Which. Yeah, exactly.
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Looking at him, I. Listen, I would have had you on any time. I think it was when your first special came out, I think I may have asked. And it was like, ah, you know, you, you. And I'm like, I'm not gonna push on people. Like, I don't want to make anyone's day worse. You know, I'm not looking to be like, I can move on from it. I can find. I, you know, I can talk to myself for an hour. It's fine.
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Yeah, yeah. No, I always appreciate it, but I kind of was happy that I had that reputation for a while because I was like, okay, now I can just relax and focus on my stuff and not worry about it. But, you know, that's also stressful because you're like, I gotta push tickets. I gotta do. How am I gonna do it? So, you know, it's always back and forth, but I'm. The way I'm kind of getting in is like having these conversations with people that I actually know in real life. That is so much more comfortable for me.
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So that's the way to go.
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you as someone who goes on everything and never shuts the fuck up. I went on Jeff Lewis Live, which is a radio show on like Sirius XM is Andy Cohen's network. And he told me to get there. You know, I was told be there by 8:30. So I get there at 8:30 and it's a table with Jeff Lewis, who, who I didn't know prior to being booked on the show. And it's. There was a few people sitting at the table and they're at this big office, you know, conference room. And they're like, Jared and, and. And then this woman goes, do you want to bake? Good. And it was Carney Wilson and the musician from Wilson Phillips. Oh.
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B
Oh, yeah. Wow.
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And I go, Carney Wilson. She goes, I would love to have try my baked goods.
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B
And I'm like, I.
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Am I eating Carney Wilson's baked goods? And then Jeff Lewis is like, yeah, she's on the second hour and you're on the first hour. I like to get breakfast with everyone coming on the show. And I'm like. And it did make the show like, it a way more fun experience. It was a fuller experience. It wasn't just stranger walking in, hawking his goods, you know, like, yeah. And we're. And we're sitting here like, wow, it's so smart to get to know someone before you have them on your show. And you're like, yeah, that's all right. I want to talk about the special. The special is awesome. What I loved about it is that again, you are always counter culture Ryan Hamilton. And everyone should go, you're doing a special with a through line. It's one story about the beginning.
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You.
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You kind of I. I. As someone with a special coming out, that is one theme. It. It was very. I was curious to see how yours would be received. You're. You're kind of my f. Feet in the snow that I'm following. And I'm very excited about it because I was like, it's all about how you got hit by a bus.
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And.
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And I remember you getting hit by the bus.
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It was.
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It was more in the pandemic than it was out of the pandemic. And your experience with just going through that, I mean, was it. I. It's so funny. Everyone's got to go watch it called this just hit me. I remember more specifically that you got hit by the bus and then you had to do a corporate gig for a bus company.
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B
Yeah, that's a story I. I tried to write about, and I thought maybe this. I think that might have been a missed opportunity, but I could never figure it out. But, yeah, I did a. So I got hit by the bus, that whole thing. And then I finally get back to work, and one of the first corporate gigs I do is for, like, I can't even remember some sort of trucking in the trucking industry. And it's tough. These corporate gigs are tough. Especially it's all men. That makes it tough when it's all men in a corporate gig. And these guys are in the trucking industry. They're like, you know, automotive men. And I walk into this conference hall, and it's one of these huge, massive places that has the ability to actually put vehicles inside, like an auto show or something. And they have a small stage, and then on either side of the stage, they have two real semi trucks that they drove in to the thing. So on either side of the stage, there are these big, massive semi trucks. And I don't have enough material to not do this story at this time, because I'm just back. And so I start into, like, getting hit as a pedestrian. And I remember that all these guys are like, this sounds like our worst lawsuit nightmare. And it's all like, there's a truck right there. It was just like, if I had a TV show, this would be a great episode. Is kind of the feeling. And I.
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I remember you telling me the story because I had a corporate gig coming up. And you're. You do. You have done a ton of corporate gigs. And the deal with corporate gigs is they're going to pay you really well, but you kind of have to go by their rules. You got to maybe stay clean or you have to do jokes that are approved by them and you have to be in uncomfortable settings. And you were saying that you were doing this story about getting hit by the bus next to these semi trucks and that they were taking the truck side there.
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That's how it felt. That's how it felt. I remember. I forgot about that light. That is how it felt. It was like me against the trucks. And these guys are not on my side. They don't. They don't want me. They don't want to deal with someone who got hit on the side of the road, you know?
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Right. You're their worst nightmare. You're the reason companies get taken down, you know?
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Yeah. Yes.
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I, I thought. I thought. I think about that story all the time.
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Do you really?
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I think it's so funny because it is. These corporate gigs can be a version of hell. It's not artistically, it's not fulfilling, but it's the reason you get to do your art. You know, you, Right, you.
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You.
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You get paid very well so that you can do the shows you want to do or work on the material to get it better. I remember seeing you working on this story about getting hit by the bus, and I, I, I've watched you with the seller for years, and I'm always like. I'm like, that's the guy. This guy's got the best jokes. He's well written, he's doing a great job. And then I was watching you struggle with this material and did you. Was it. What do you think was harder about doing this stuff? Was it because it was so personal that you were, like, going through was in that.
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B
It was a bit of that in the beginning, but I, I got through that eventually where it became kind of like I was num. Part. But I think the hard part at the Cellar especially was that it's, you know, I'm kind of resetting the room with a weird tone. And so I had to, like, I had to figure that out because it was like, oh, this is kind of a bummer, but I gotta work on this stuff. And it was a long story, so it would often be like the whole set. And it was like, I would get laughs in there, but it was just like, you know, you don't really hear one topic through the whole set at the Cellar, and also it being, like, a little bit traumatic, so it put a weird vibe on the room, you know. So I think that was the challenge of running it in short spots and then doing it long. It just kind of grew, and it was hard. Even in comedy clubs. I would have that a little bit at the beginning, and then it started to get strong enough that I could. It was funny enough, and it's weird. I have this with a lot of jokes. I. Often they get too dark, and then I. Like, often I'll get a chunk, and it's a little too dark and a little bit of a bummer. I'm too lonely. I'm too single. I'm too whatever. And then I. But I know that the premise is rich, and I pull it back, pull it back, pull it back until I find it. There's the spot where it's like. It's got the reality and the edge, but it's. It's fun, you know, it's fun.
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I. That's why I love watching the special so much. And anyone who watches are gonna love it.
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It's called.
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This just hit me. It's out on Netflix right now. You should go watch it. I just. It's. It was like, as a comic, it's inspiring because, like, you know, when I'm watching you do a. Once, the. The. The hardest part is you're stuck in it, I think, like, you.
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You.
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You.
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There's no. Especially when you have no. Like, I don't have other material to be like. So d. You know, I do this with, like, my dad offering me his Ozempic. I'm trying to make that into a full hour, and, yes, it's hot. You go, all I got is Ozempic. Like, I'm sorry.
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Like.
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Like.
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And you guys don't want to talk. Yeah. Until I realize who I'm talking to now as I'm telling the story, because I've seen you do, like, that beach chunk and the Ozempic thing, and it is all one story. I remember when I first saw you do that beach chunk, and I was really impressed. I was like, wow, that is a killer bit. You did it. Beginning to end. All one chunk at the Cellar, like, I'm just saying, was so rare. And it just destroyed all the way through and was very personal. I mean, I didn't realize that your whole special, this hour that you're working on is all in a theme like
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that the Beach One is coming out in the fall, and that's. That's why. And that's all about my dad asking me how much I weighed and. Right. And that. And. And why. When I watched this, I was like. Because right now, in a world of clips and crowd work, you know, this is kind of the opposite direction. I. Because I was watching this with a lot of curiosity, like, how's it gonna feel to watch it and how's it gonna be received? And it looks like. I mean, I loved it. I'm watching it being like. And I could tell there was hesitate. Like, even in the beginning, you do like five minutes of bits and it's like a little bit. You warming them up.
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B
Yeah, I can't get right into it. It's interesting. You know, the end. The tail end of the special is still about health, but it's not so bust heavy. And. And originally the set was all structured where that stuff was in the beginning because it worked in the live set. It worked really well where I would get through and they. They knew that the bus stuff was coming. So it built up this anticipation. Like my audience knew about it. So it had this extra layer of anticipation that helped. And then when I got the special, I started really diving into, okay, how long is it going to be? How am I going to edit this? I realized that, you know, in today's world, a lot of people, I unfortunately, I don't think get to the end of a special sometimes. So I thought it was important for me to put this stuff up the front. So I actually restructured the whole thing like about a month before, and I went. Flopped it all over and it was a lot of work. But I think it's better for the. I think it's better for the streaming version if you just put this on in your house. I do think it might have been better for the live version if you're sitting in a theater watching me the other way. So it's really interesting consideration when you're like, okay, now this is going to be consumed with people in their TV and their stuff going on. I want them to see this chunk and especially, like, you know, it's the title. So it felt important. So, you know, it's interesting considerations. I don't know.
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A
I loved it. I think everyone needs to go watch it. This just hit me at Ryan Hamilton with an e at the end on social media. Let's play a game.
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C
You ready?
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B
Okay.
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A
I like to play a game at the end, and it's based on your special called this Just Hit Me. And the special is about getting hit by a bus and the tries and tribs of getting hit by a bus. I have to. I have to believe telling someone I got hit by a bus creates a weird conversation.
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B
Yeah, I mean, I get all sorts of people. I mean, it's so interesting. Even if I don't, I can just be standing there and people can Come tell me a traumatic experience. It's not even physical. It's just. And you know, and it's because they relate to the feeling of what you're going through as you're healing from something, whatever it is, physical, emotional, grief stricken. And then there's other people who want. Just want to relate in some way. I remember I was standing around after a show and this guy came over and he was like, man, I'm so sorry you went through that. I was backing up my friend's pickup and I thought, oh, this could be bad. And he goes, it caught my toe and it broke my toe. And I was like, I'm really sorry that happened to you, man.
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A
Right, yeah.
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B
And then other people, they were like, tell me. Like, I often get. Because I had 10 broken ribs. That's the thing where if anybody's had a broken rib, they just go, oh, it was so painful. I can't imagine 10. And I always go, yeah, but it was. It's not a competition. This is not a competition. Pain. It's not. It's all relevant. It's all, you know, in the world. We all go through things and. But yeah, I do get a lot of unanticipated that, you know, just interesting things.
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A
Like, I say it when you're, when you, when you say it, you know, I was hit by a bus. You're basically playing an improv game with someone who doesn't know how to do improv, like, because now it's their turn, you know, like, they go, yes, okay, now. And we, you know, we are, we are in more improv situations as, as standups who leave the house every night and, and perform for strangers. We are used to a weird thing is coming and we have to respond to it. And the everyday Jim and Joe is not really. So that's why I wanted to play a game with you called which hits Worse. Okay, okay.
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B
Okay.
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A
Where I'm going to give you a scenario where what is the worst conversation? You ready?
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B
Okay. Yes.
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A
Telling someone you were hit by a bus or telling a stranger that you were a comedian, which hits worse?
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B
I'm gonna go with comedian. To be honest. I think getting hit by a bus. They've never met anyone who's been hit by bus. And they're just like, wow. And they might. It's so crazy to say that they might not even want to talk to you anymore, but when you say you're a comedian, that's all they want to do is talk to you more. And then you're in it. And then you're like. And then you're going to get. Tell me a joke. Do you. And when you say you got hit by a bus, people might just go, it's nice to meet you, man. I hope you're well, I'm gonna, I'm
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A
gonna back out of this. This isn't for me. I'm done. I didn't sign up for getting in a conversation. Who had a traumatic thing happen to them today? I, I, that is funny. I, I never thought of it that way.
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B
And they also, it's difficult to relate because they're, they have to either, like, have been hit by a car or something, but if you're a comedian, they go, oh, I think I could be funny. What do you think of this? They also are like, we're the same.
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A
Or they're gonna bring up a comedian that they're fans of or someone they know who has done it before.
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B
Right.
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A
And it can only lead to eternal internal sadness. So, okay, ready? Which gets worse, Telling someone you were hit by a bus or telling someone that you're going through a breakup right now?
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B
Oh, I think breakup, actually, I think that'd be worse. It's so relatable. It's almost the opposite, where everybody relives that pain. Pain. All of a sudden they're like, oh, this was the hardest thing. And then suddenly I'm like, I remember that. I'm sorry, dude.
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A
So you've brought down the whole room, right, via your breakup news.
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B
Yeah, I guess it depends on the context on some of these, but like that one, I would say generally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
Here's a tough one.
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B
Breakup is going to get attention. Breakup is going to get.
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C
Right.
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A
Sorry, you're kind of left to take lead.
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C
That one.
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B
Right.
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A
Okay, ready? Telling someone you were hit by a bus or someone asking you how did the special do?
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B
I guess, how did this. I don't know. I guess I'm going to say bus on that one. How did the special do? I find is kind of fun to answer. It's okay to answer even I don't really know. That's the thing. It's like, I don't know. And I can just go, I don't know. What do you think? How did it do? You tell me.
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A
I don't know. How did the special do? So much really haunted me for two years.
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B
Why? What's driven? What's the emotion that comes with it?
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A
I don't know. Sounds like you're being or feels like I'm being passive aggressive and ignoring this elephant in the Room that I'm creating. And if I say it did great, and then they follow up with, well, how do you know? And I'm like, okay, you got me. It didn't do as well as I hoped it had. I don't even know what to say to that.
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B
It's a good point. In my head, I was thinking about comedians for some reason, having this conversation, but you're right. Totally different thing. If you're talking to someone else. How does the special do? It's like, yeah, that's a tough question to ask. You're right. How did the special do? When it's much just. It's. Why didn't you just say, I watched the special? I loved it. Thank you for putting it out there.
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A
You and I both know how easy it is to have a conversation with someone who just had a special.
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B
Loved it. Yes.
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A
Congrats, like, or.
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B
Yeah, so you had a special.
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A
Congrats, like.
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B
Like. And yes.
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A
That's all we want.
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B
It's kind of. It's akin to that question after a show where it was like, I really liked it. Keep doing it, you know? Or that statement, you're like, I.
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A
That's like cutting off my ear. Like. Like, I. I'm injured by that.
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B
Yes. Oh, that's so hurtful. It's just like, I. You know, insinuating. I don't know what their problem is, but.
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C
Right.
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B
I think you're fantastic.
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A
I laughed.
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B
I laugh.
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A
I used to get from. I. I would do a great show. I'd be like, wow, what a show. I really felt that went great. And then someone would come to me and go, do people who aren't Jewish get it? And I'm like, you were in a room.
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B
Yeah.
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C
With everyone.
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A
What are you talking about?
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B
Yeah, that's crazy.
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A
Last one.
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B
Okay.
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A
Someone telling someone you were hit by a bus or someone asking, what are your hobbies?
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B
Oh, hobbies is brutal for me. I'm gonna say hobby. Yeah. I mean, hobbies is like, I just. I'm so bored by it because I. I'm just coming up with things that I do once in a while, so I don't sound super boring. I'm like, you know, well, I grew up skiing, and I go once a year, so that's my hobby. I skier. I'm a big skier. That's. That's how you should define how I am. I'm a skier.
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A
That's all I do.
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B
Yeah, that's it. That's it. It's like, if your whole personality is hobby, like, that's a crazy question to me. It's like, I do a million things once. That's who I am, and I do stand up comedy the rest of the time.
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A
Anytime I'm asked about hobbies, it turns into this, like, 10 minute rant that ends with me being like, I have nothing. I just need. I just hope I can pay bills every month. And I'm sorry, I. I'm a. I'm a loser. I have not. You know, like, I. I don't even get it. I don't even understand what they're trying to get at.
- [40:58]
B
It's a tailspin question. Absolutely. You just like. First of all, it's one of those questions where if we're here, then the conversation's already failing and I don't know how to answer this. Yeah.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Ryan Hamilton, thank you for coming on. You're fantastic. Always a pleasure talking to you in any capacity, but it' a pleasure to get you on a podcast. You're a huge get. Everyone go watch the special. It's called. This just hit me. It is on Netflix. It is. You got to watch it. I bring people on who I love and enjoy and think are funny. And you will, too. And go follow Ryan on social media so you can keep up with everything he's doing. I'm Jared Freed, back next week.
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B
Boom.