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Jared Freed
Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them, too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week, too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a chat Wednesday to. Hello and welcome to the J Train podcast. Is J Train Jared Freed coming live from the West Village of Manhattan? It's a Chit Chat Wednesday and we have a very special guest today, Lisa Traeger. Her special is out on Netflix right now. It came out last night. I want you to go watch it. I want you to go enjoy it. It is hilarious. I open for the special taping. You're going to love it. And Lisa's been a friend of the podcast since the beginning, so she's been on a million times. And you've gotten to watch her go through the career just like I'm going through the career. And a lot of this episode is about that and just what it's like to be a comedian these days and what, you know, concerns us, the stresses we have and how much we both love it and how much we both love doing standup. And you can hear that when I talk to Liz on this episode. And you're going to see the product of that when you go watch special. So I want you to go watch a special. Put in the queue. We want you to watch it early because that helps Lisa and we want you to enjoy. So go watch it. Enjoy this interview with Lisa. It kind of takes you behind the scenes of what it's like to have a Netflix special come out. Enjoy the today's episode. Boom. Welcome to the new J Train Podcast. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. This is J Train Jared Freed coming to you live from the West Village of Manhattan. That's right. Every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday. It's a very special chitchat Wednesday because I am joined by my good friend, comedian and the newest proprietor. Is that the right word? The newest Netflix. Our comedian, Netflix Zone, Lisa Traeger. The specials out. Welcome to the show. Thank you for coming. Thank. We wanted the first interview.
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Lisa Traeger
Yes. For post. I mean, I'm probably hungover. If you're listening to this on that Wednesday the 29th.
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Jared Freed
I'm hungover because it came out Tuesday. It's called Night Owl, right?
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah. And you know, well, I'll show you here right on camera. You get the exclusive. My party. Look at all these Night Owl bracelets.
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Jared Freed
I. Oh, like Taylor Swift bracelets.
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
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Jared Freed
So you.
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Lisa Traeger
A lot.
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Jared Freed
This is hilarious. So like someone. Here's the, here's the thing about a Netflix special. There are, to some people, they're like, wow, you are a celebrity now. And those people would be surprised to find out that you were hand making bracelets for your release party. They'd be like, what, doesn't she have a team that does that? Yeah, no, no, I have a whole station.
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Lisa Traeger
I also made a Luigi bracelet just for me.
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Jared Freed
You're. Well, as you know, last time when you said you, you made your plea to kill all the rich people. We know that you're a big Luigi fan. Well, hold on. Let's get the plug. City, right? Yeah. Night owl.
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Lisa Traeger
Netflix.
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Jared Freed
Netflix.
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Lisa Traeger
And it's. It's exciting. You have a Netflix special and you know what it means. It's like having an hour is already an accomplishment wherever it goes. But there is something with the brand name that.
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Jared Freed
It is the ultimate credibility. It is.
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Lisa Traeger
But they've also ruined our industry. It's like so funny. It's like all I want, it's like all I want is Netflix. I want people to see worldwide. I want to be in the top 10. I have a. I'm in a TV show on Netflix. Like to me it's everything. But then I'm also like, God, you guys really.
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Jared Freed
Us.
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Lisa Traeger
You.
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Jared Freed
The industry so big, they have us by the, you know, the metaphorical balls. Because there's one place to go, really. If you think about it like there's a, there's other places.
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Lisa Traeger
But I'm sure all our friends who got Hulu specials got a lot of money, right?
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Jared Freed
Well, that's the thing. They try and then they put a lot of money into it and they realize that Netflix kind of has, you know, the right idea where, you know, these are cheaply made that, you know, it doesn't cost a lot of money to make a stand up special. I just made my own again, you know, so if I, I can do it individually, me living in a shoebox in the West Village can do it. You know, this is pennies on the dollar to them. But, but for the opportunity to get you on there new, new content, so to speak. But also, you know, this is your. There's. To the listeners, the viewers on YouTube, what we want you to do is whatever you can to help Lisa have this, change her life, you know, so. And, and, and this is the thing. You can't.
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Don't you all want me on Hot Ones?
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Jared Freed
Right?
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Lisa Traeger
This is what we're working towards.
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Jared Freed
Right? We want Lisa on Hot Ones, tears streaming down her face on wing three. Okay. So are you good with spicy?
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Lisa Traeger
No, but I want to be on that show so bad because I love questions. I love good questions. He has such good questions that I've been. And I'm jealous of people with Spice. So I've been training for years. You know, I did it really sensitive, and I have. I have a geographic tongue. Do you see it?
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Jared Freed
What's a geographic tongue?
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Lisa Traeger
Like, I have really deep ridges.
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Jared Freed
Oh, really? So that. Does that mean you feel it more? Oh, my God, Yeah.
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Lisa Traeger
Like, it goes. My taste buds aren't there, so it goes straight into my tongue.
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Jared Freed
Okay.
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Lisa Traeger
I have these, like, ridges in my tongue. But I can have jalapenos now with nachos.
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Jared Freed
Okay.
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Lisa Traeger
I use fire Taco Bell sauce. I used to not even use sauce. I went from mild to fire in the last few months. I've been pushing myself. I've been pushing, you know.
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Jared Freed
You know, I've done a Hot Ones.
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Lisa Traeger
No.
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Jared Freed
I did a live one at Penn State. They needed a quote, unquote celeb guest.
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Lisa Traeger
Okay.
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Jared Freed
And he did a show at Penn State, not taped. And I was his guest. He's the nicest guy. He's like Sean Evans. You meet this guy, you're like, you're a billionaire. Like, he's a great business person. He owns all the sauces. Like, so he's like, selling the sauces, doing the YouTube doing. They just got sold for, like, huge money, this guy. And it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Like, my interaction with him was, like, all positive. We went out afterwards. We. We went drinking after.
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Lisa Traeger
How did you do on the wings, though?
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Jared Freed
Like, I got through it.
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Lisa Traeger
All the questions, were they as personal as they are on the show or.
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Jared Freed
No, it was. It was like, you know, he. He did. He did, like, you, what I would call plain research. Like, you know, he did a Google, a quick Google on me. Like, you know, he's asking me. He's like, so the charcuterie, the. You know, the Bachelor came up a lot, but I wore Penn State, like, garb, like, all white. And I just kept disrobing every wing. I take off another piece of clothing until I was, like, basically naked on stage. And. And then I ate all the wings. And he tells you, like, it's da bomb is the famous wing.
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
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Jared Freed
If you watch the show, there's the eighth wing. And he's. And he tells you. He goes. The eighth wing is when things, like, change and you just have to get from 8 to 10. But, like, you.
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Lisa Traeger
You.
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Jared Freed
When you get to 8, and I'm, like, chugging milk, and he's like, some people have a milk problem more than a wing problem. Like, and he was right. Like, my stomach the next day, I could not leave my apartment. Like, I flew back the next morning. And, like, like, debilitated. But no one's better at interrupting her own plug than Lisa Traeger. Hold on.
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Lisa Traeger
Celebs are so funny because at the end, they're always like, I should make my PR person do this, right? They're all livid. Like, truly. Like, all the famous ones are like, why am I doing this?
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Jared Freed
Che did it. I texted Che, and he was like, eat a banana. He said you need, like, fiber to, like, make sure your stomach. It's. It's so. It's so much more worse the next day than it is in the moment. In the moment. It hurts, but it's like, you can get through it. I was like, could not move from my apartment. Like, I couldn't be 10, more than 10ft away from a toilet. And you want. Not to be too crude, but, like, you want to ship it. You can't. And it's like, no, it's just, like. It's just, like, stuck there. Like, I don't know. I. I would do it again.
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Lisa Traeger
That's what Cardi B's song's about. Out when it's up and it's stuck.
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Jared Freed
That's what it's about. Yeah.
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Lisa Traeger
Fallon asked her what it's about, and it's like, you know when you're going to the bathroom and she explains it, and that's what that song is about. Unless she was being funny on Fallon.
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Jared Freed
But that's hilarious if. If true. Hilarious. So listen. Okay, enough about Hot Ones. I want to make sure. Lisa, here's the thing that I think we tiptoe around this. Like, you know, don't. My advice to you is not to tiptoe. If you're listening, watching right now, just go on Netflix and turn on the special. Go turn it on. The first 30 days are very important for how Netflix tracks this. So if you're like, I'll get to it next year. Okay, that's nice, but you didn't really help an artist. Like, you are helping an artist by clicking the thumbs up and going and watching in that first week. First month is nice. First week is quite a mitzvah you're doing to Lisa Traeger. But it's not even a mitzvah. It's not even a Good deed. She did a fantastic hour. I opened for it. You'll hear my voice. So I know the jokes. They're all funny. You're going to laugh. There's no preaching. There's no. There's no, you know, there's no bullshit that you see in a lot of these specials. This is, like, original, funny, amazing. So no.
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Lisa Traeger
Someone. I did one interview, and they're like, what do you want the special to convey? And I was like, I just want people to have a good time. I laugh, I go. If there's a feminist nugget someone takes away through the rape material. Sure.
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Jared Freed
Just casually. Yeah. If the rape material, you know, hits you a certain way.
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Lisa Traeger
But I just want people to. Laughing. Like, I. I just want people, like, in their comfy clothes, on the couch, edible takeout with someone. Or, like, I just want. Or in their kids.
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Jared Freed
That is.
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Lisa Traeger
I want people to have a good time. There's no, like, I need. I'm not trying to get cancer, you know, I'm not, like, no freedom of speech. Like, there's nothing. There's nothing like that. I'm just wearing pink. And I want people have a good time. It's my.
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Jared Freed
Makes me so angry at, like, comedy sometimes. You're like, you know, these. These bad actors, whoever tries to take over the conversation, it's like, people who are doing it. Like, I just saw, like, a video. This guy who's like a former agent, now he's doing comedy. He's like. He was like, doing, like a. Like, all the Rogan bros, like, rant, and he's like, you gotta go check out these people. I'm like, you mean go to the comedy seller? Like. Like, he's like, just telling people, like, to go to. He's like, naming people we see at the Comedy Cellar overnight. And it's like, we. When we were, like, coming up and trying to figure it out, it was like, who did you kill or did you not? It wasn't like, did you. Did you get across your feminist message? No, no one asked that question.
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Lisa Traeger
No. We're supposed to be saying something. I mean, what's difficult now with the people that are, like, dominating our industry? Like the Rogan bros. The fascism. The fascism foes. I would say, the fascist bros. I would say, well, they're not funny. But what was my point? This is like.
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Jared Freed
Good one. Got him the. I would say you.
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Lisa Traeger
I lost my mind. But they. God, it's just not even funny.
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Jared Freed
I had someone come on stage and take a picture with me, and he was, like, alone and he was like, he just had a good time at the show.
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Lisa Traeger
Oh, this is what I wanted to say. I'm so sorry. It's the whole thing with comedy. When you think of, like, the history and what we do, it's like, we want to have a good time. You talk about your family, but you want a new perspective. You want to, like, surprise people with how funny you are, a new idea or, like, a new way to look at something or taking something sad or not popular and twisting it, that it's funny.
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Jared Freed
Right?
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Lisa Traeger
And what I feel about the leaders of our industry right now, the money makers, the people that are, like, at the Republican conventions is like, they're hacks, too. Like, they are antithesis to comedy. Like, they are. They are with the power. Like, the whole thing is we're losers. Like, I hate. Like, I'm cool. Like, comedy is not cool. Like, I do like the fashion girlies. I like the fashion girlies. I like people looking cute. I like people having fun. But, like, at the end of the day, there's something about the. Like, we're supposed to be the outsiders looking in and observing, and the people make, like, the Rogan Bros. It's like, you are on the president's side. It's so lame.
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Jared Freed
You know, that's the word.
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Lisa Traeger
They're lame.
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Jared Freed
It does feel lame. Colin Quinn, that's a. That's something he says all the time, is like, when comedy's cool, it's at its worst. Yeah, he. He. And he says that a lot. And this is like a legendary, you know, person in our. In comedy, saying that and something else you said is very true. It's like, it's considered. I get this a lot. Like, when someone's like, what do you talk about? And I'm like, I tell stories from my life. You know, I talk about my family, and I, you know, tell stories. I don't know how to explain it. Like, and then they're like, oh, so you stay away from politics. You stay safe. And I'm like, I think talking about politics is the safest way to go. You know, who agrees with you, you know, will get people's attention. You know, you're like, to say, Joe Biden is dead. You know, like, that joke is like.
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Lisa Traeger
So not staying away. I think a lot of times when people ask the questions or put something on you, it's what they would do or how they would do it. But it's like, I'm not trying to do anything. I am a comic. I am naturally amazing. Like, I have fun. I Don't have to. Because I remember with one comic who's a friend of ours, like, something came out. He's like, well, you gotta write about this. I go, you don't.
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Jared Freed
No, you don't.
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Lisa Traeger
You don't. You don't even know one trans person. Stop. You don't have to.
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Jared Freed
Right?
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Lisa Traeger
You don't have to have an opinion. And I was scared. Like, I don't think politics is funny to me. You know? Like, I'm not.
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Jared Freed
I'm with you. I mean, I. I started reading the news.
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Lisa Traeger
Oh, my God, I have a life, right?
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Jared Freed
It sounds horrific.
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Lisa Traeger
Life read.
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Jared Freed
So I. No, I. Like, even this week, I. So I had a thing. I talked about it on coffee with J Train. If you guys are Patreon subscribers, go sign up. But I basically talked about, like, someone messaged me that for turmoil Tuesday. It's ticked off Tuesday. Okay. Mailbag Monday. Pop culture Thursday.
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Lisa Traeger
So you are adult Sesame Street.
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Jared Freed
I make it easy for people. Okay. One, two. That's the Count. So he's a Sesame street, though, is he? Sesame. Okay, good.
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Where else would the Count live?
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Jared Freed
Muppets. No, you're right. Sesame. I. So someone DM me. You should. I know you don't do politics, but you should talk about the Elon Musk Nazi salute. And I'm like, should? Like, what do you mean, should? First of all, I was already doing a joke about it. I do think that is funny. The idea that, like, the two jokes.
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Lisa Traeger
You had, what we were at, like, at the bar, just shooting the. Was I. I liked them and I repeated them the next day to someone. I go, oh, Jared was being funny, right?
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Jared Freed
So, like that. I think those. Like, if I have a tape, most.
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Lisa Traeger
Of my jokes happen. It's like, I'm with someone, something happens. I go, oh, that's funny. I got it right. You know, like that, right?
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Jared Freed
That's funny.
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Lisa Traeger
It's not like, I gotta talk about the. The Congress.
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Jared Freed
Well, then I say. Then I see people who are talking about the Elon salute, and I'm like, how did you get here? You're not Jewish. You don't seem to do politics ever. Like, and then I'm, like, annoyed that they're even talking about it. Like, oh, yeah, you know, it's something fun and new. Like, that's what's right.
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Lisa Traeger
Even if it's like, I agree. Disagree. Like, whether. Let's say it's, like, racist and about beating your wife. And it's, like, not my vibe.
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Jared Freed
Sure.
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Lisa Traeger
If it's funny, I'm going to like, make me laugh. I would love to laugh at fucked up shit. Like, that is my favorite thing to do. I love roasts. I love it. I love that. So it's just like their hack too. It's like, that's what it is. Just aren't good at comedy because they can't. You have to dig deep and something different. You got to do something new. I don't know. There's something that, like, is. Conservatism and comedy don't really work well.
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Jared Freed
I just. I think you can do it if you were. I think it's just, again, the. The idea of half, but also super.
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Lisa Traeger
Left is lame too. Anything where you're like, the point and the belief is above the punchline, right? I'm never gonna get behind because.
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Jared Freed
And I guess the. The words I'm trying to put to that is, like, they get to, like, do it under the idea that they are counterculture. Like, and they're not. Like, it is false counterculturism. Like, and in. And again, that's left culture because they're.
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Lisa Traeger
Very short, ugly men. That was rude.
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Jared Freed
I just think it's when you go way left, way right. Not to, like, all everyone, but it's like, you get to, like, sound like you're doing something brave when it's not actually that brave. I think that's. That's.
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Lisa Traeger
You know what would be brave? Jim Norton's, you know what's brave? Going up there and going, I suck trans dicks. That's brave.
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Jared Freed
Jim Norton going, ew.
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Lisa Traeger
Trans. That's gross. Yeah, that's okay. Go back to 60 years. Like, what are you talking. I just watched a clip from 1993, a talk show where it's all these trans people on stage and people from the audience being like, why are you doing this? And not understanding. That's 1993, right? Dog Day Afternoon was about Al Pacino robbing a bank to get his trans girlfriend a surgery in the 70s nominated for Oscars. And now you're like, what are you talking about? Like, it's like their idea of what brave is, is craz. Oh, you want to go in front of a. At the convention and talk about how black people like watermelon? That's from the 20s, right? Like, what are we talking about?
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Jared Freed
Right? You know, it's funny. Like, someone crazy someone could look at this and. And that's the thing.
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Lisa Traeger
Like, they don't even have to be creative.
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Jared Freed
Like, right?
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Lisa Traeger
People. If you're friends with black people, you can make jokes about black people because, you know Them. And there's very intricate cool things that happen when. Right. And then you can write a joke about your actual life experience. Experience, Right. With your friends. That makes sense. But like, you have no one like this in your life. Who is this even based on?
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Jared Freed
I wonder.
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Lisa Traeger
I saw one comic that talks about relationships. When he starts talking about girls, I go, this isn't real. I go, this cannot be.
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Jared Freed
Oh, I, I listen, I.
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Lisa Traeger
Do, you know, do you think you know who I'm talking about?
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Jared Freed
I could think of seven people.
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Lisa Traeger
This is who.
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Jared Freed
I'm like, yeah, I.
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Lisa Traeger
This girl on the date said this to me. I'm like, no, that's not real. That can't be real.
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Jared Freed
Right? Well, relationship stuff. Like, I always have like a, like my ears pop up for relationship jokes. And I'm like, just cuz I'm like, what, where is this coming from? What's the take? And I'm like, I. There's people that tell me, you know, that I watch. I'm like, you never had a girlfriend. You never went on a date. You never went on. You've never been on a dating app. You never been, you know, like in. And I'm watching this and I'm like, but again, we're, this is all to say, like, we're offended as comedians. You know, this isn't like, yeah, this isn't like, you know, I hate that joke. It's. I hate that you're getting credit for such an ease, easy, stupid, not funny joke. Like, and that's why, like, I watched your special and you know, I'm hosting for it. I'm getting the crowd ready. And it's laughs, it's fun, it's subjects that are personal to you. You're talking about how you're the translator for your family. Like, like, you're talking about how your parents move here from Russia. You are now the little kid translator who's like, helping them get along in a new country. Like, what is more interesting, fun, funny than that? Like, you can see all the players. I can see your dad. I can see that it comes from a place of like, care and love and like, it's all there. And like, it's, it's interesting that we'll be on the same show and we'll see five people do the same job in totally different ways. And you know, there's like, it's like junk food versus like eating an apple. Like, how full does it make you? So, like, I think everyone's authenticity, you.
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Lisa Traeger
Know, like, some people do need to write everything out. Word for word. Some people need to be this. Some people. Like, we're all different, you know? No, not like that, but authenticity, originality, like, fun. I don't know. It's like, this should be fun at the end of the day. Like, you shouldn't want to. Like, the point of comedy shouldn't be to, like, hang out with Elon Musk. Like, what the is going on? Someone had this Instagram story where it's like, at least fascism back in the day had some boots, had some sex appeal. Like, you losers. You dress like you're so lame.
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Jared Freed
What. What else is going on Before. Okay.
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Lisa Traeger
It's honestly being so lazy.
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Jared Freed
Like, how excited are you? Hold on. Before. Before we get into. I gotta pay my bills. I gotta. You know. Okay, listen.
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Lisa Traeger
Oh, I'm also on the road.
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Jared Freed
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Lisa Traeger
This is the, you know, moving to New York's amazing. We love doing comedy here in New York. This is kind of like such a comedy focused chit chat Wednesday.
- [24:11]
Jared Freed
I know. Well, we got to talk. This is, I'm trying to get people.
- [24:14]
Lisa Traeger
I do.
- [24:15]
Jared Freed
The passion, to me is important. I wonder how the listener relates to it. Like, I do wonder.
- [24:20]
Lisa Traeger
We love what we do. We love what we do, right? I wouldn't say I'm a snob, but like, yeah, I like and I like, you know, I like who I like and we see people. Because I always say, also, the thing when comedians are like, but we're comics, we have to have each other's back. It's like, no, I know you. I don't like you. I've sat with you at a table for seven years having your back because you do comedy too. I'll give you maybe I know you. I saw you cheat on your wife. Like, what are we doing here?
- [24:46]
Jared Freed
But if you, if you. The thing is, when people ask me where to go, what should I watch? I like, I have names ready to go for them, you know, and you go, go check these out. Like, and you know, listen, when I have guests on here, like, this is me saying, this person does a great job. You know, like, that is me.
- [25:04]
Lisa Traeger
How many guests have you had on that you didn't like?
- [25:08]
Jared Freed
Very few.
- [25:09]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
- [25:10]
Jared Freed
You know, it's not like me to say no to people. If someone asks me, I'm usually like, let's, let's do it. Like, why not?
- [25:18]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, because you don't like when people say no to you. That's for sure. You don't like that. You get offended. So I feel like that's why.
- [25:24]
Jared Freed
Why shouldn't I get offended? Not get offended. I, I know how easy it is for me to say yes.
- [25:30]
Lisa Traeger
So I know, but it's like the classic thing. Like, usually because I do this, like, I. I feel uncomfortable. Like I used to feel if you're ever an outsider in any kind of capacity, like when I see someone being uncomfortable or like not being included the my part, like, in my heart, I want to go do it and I have to tell myself I'm not responsible for them. You do not have to include, like, live your life, be in the moment. But like, I always have this kind of urge to make sure, like ask or intro like I do.
- [25:59]
Jared Freed
Right.
- [25:59]
Lisa Traeger
It makes me uncomfortable.
- [26:01]
Jared Freed
You don't think it's offensive to like. Like, I'm sure you've had this. Don't you ask?
- [26:05]
Lisa Traeger
Well, I have. But you know what someone. Well, you know what my PR person told me? She goes. Because I'm like, oh God, all these guys, they just. And she goes, it seems like you fight with a lot of these people. I go, honestly, you're right. She goes, yeah, you can't like fight with people and talk shit about them and then ask them to be on your pod. Be on their pod.
- [26:19]
Jared Freed
Right.
- [26:19]
Lisa Traeger
And so that's. That's personal to me.
- [26:21]
Jared Freed
Well, that's personally you. I mean.
- [26:23]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, yeah. I guess I did call your friend a rapist. I guess you don't want me on your pod.
- [26:27]
Jared Freed
We. We might not. Al.
- [26:29]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
- [26:30]
Jared Freed
On a fun chit chat about I've had.
- [26:33]
Lisa Traeger
It's like you have like extend yourself without knowing someone or been like, oh yeah, of course I'll have your back. And then to have someone like ghost or not. Of course that would be.
- [26:42]
Jared Freed
I'm saying, like, yeah. I have years of. I have a menu of hundreds of people I've had on.
- [26:49]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
- [26:49]
Jared Freed
So when I don't have that returned when I wasn't doing that, to have it returned, you know, I did it in the idea of like, let's have fun. Let's. You know, and always promoting when people come on.
- [27:01]
Lisa Traeger
I don't like so crazy because you up is like in the top 20.
- [27:06]
Jared Freed
You up does well popular. Well. Then I'm like, I have a thing in my head. I was like, do people think I have. I'm holding you up, you know, away from them. It's like, that's just. I. I don't have the ability to put every. It's a different show. So.
- [27:21]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Thanks.
- [27:22]
Jared Freed
I do what I can, I think.
- [27:23]
Lisa Traeger
Is you have to be honest for you. Because people be like, let me do your part. I go, you got to get on SVU first, babe.
- [27:30]
Jared Freed
Right? Do a bit part on svu and you're on. Like, that's an easy booking. Yeah. Murder someone. But on svu, not in real life. Yeah, that's okay. So you have new material. You're going.
- [27:41]
Lisa Traeger
I do, yeah. Like, I took the summer off. Like, that's why I wanted to also film it in June, because I've been ready. I've been doing comedy for 15 years. It's my first hour. So it was just, like, when I found out in February, I was like, let's get this going and let's do a summer in New York. I moved back to New York. I'm living. Like, I just. But also took nights off, went to the beach, had barbecue, like, lived.
- [28:01]
Jared Freed
Did you date at all? Did you?
- [28:03]
Lisa Traeger
I don't date. It's honestly one of the biggest problems of my life, and I think I have to start therapy immediately. Like. Like, I've actually had some free time because I thought I was gonna be in la and, like, I didn't know what press was gonna look like, so I didn't put in for as many spots as I normally do.
- [28:14]
Jared Freed
Right.
- [28:14]
Lisa Traeger
And so I've had kind of a couple nights off, and I'm like. A normal person would be dating. You should be dating. You should be out. You should be going out. And it is, like, one of the, like, biggest kind of hinders in my life. Like, I. I really. There's obviously, like, a huge block in my being.
- [28:31]
Jared Freed
Well, what do you. I mean, what are you looking for?
- [28:33]
Lisa Traeger
I'm, like, perpetually single, but I'm also not. I'm not out and about, and I feel it's, like, obviously a reflection of how I'm feeling about myself or, like, what's going on, but, like, I just can't. But it's also not. It's never been easy for me, and obviously it's me, but I'm also like, I'm. It's not like people are like. It's not like I'm pushing people away.
- [28:52]
Jared Freed
Right.
- [28:53]
Lisa Traeger
Like, for the love of God, if someone approached me, I would be thrilled. Like, you know what I mean? So at this point, it's like, yeah, it's depressing, but, like, I'm tired of being rejected and not getting what I want, and I want someone to, like, make a move. Like, I don't know. But I'm also not out. I don't go out.
- [29:09]
Jared Freed
Right. Are you? No. No apps?
- [29:12]
Lisa Traeger
No. Because that. I don't like that. I don't like it. Like, If I'm on, like, for it, for me, it's just also. It's like, all not successful. Obviously. My. I'm a big part of that.
- [29:26]
Jared Freed
What would be your dream scenario? Like, a guy or girl comes up to you after a show and is like, let's get a drink show.
- [29:34]
Lisa Traeger
Just like, anywhere. Like, when I was at the Met, like, if someone came up to me while I was at the Met, I would fucking love it. You know what I mean? Like, I says, I go to Batgam and I'm going. I go to the Domino night. Like.
- [29:44]
Jared Freed
Right, you do.
- [29:45]
Lisa Traeger
I am Simpsons trivia. Yes. I'm out and about. Like, I'm going to this thing tonight. Like, I. I don't date, but I am out and about. So it's obviously what I'm giving off or it's just like, nobody likes me. And that's.
- [29:58]
Jared Freed
Well, no, this is. This is like a. An issue that you hear from a lot of people. And it's like, I get asked, you.
- [30:06]
Lisa Traeger
Know, I do interrupt you a lot. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know they're here for. You know.
- [30:10]
Jared Freed
You know, this is.
- [30:11]
Lisa Traeger
I went out with my.
- [30:12]
Jared Freed
They know it's a Lisa Trager episode.
- [30:15]
Lisa Traeger
And I've been doing so many podcasts, so I have been repeating myself a lot. But I went out with Sydney and Marie and, you know, very beautiful girls.
- [30:22]
Jared Freed
Yeah.
- [30:24]
Lisa Traeger
You know, like Sydney.
- [30:26]
Jared Freed
Sydney and Maria. Beautiful and. And striking.
- [30:30]
Lisa Traeger
Striking.
- [30:31]
Jared Freed
Yeah.
- [30:32]
Lisa Traeger
Fashion forward.
- [30:33]
Jared Freed
Right.
- [30:34]
Lisa Traeger
I mean, they're also like, personality.
- [30:36]
Jared Freed
Personality. But like, they walk into a room, a statement is. Is being made. Like, people will turn. Yeah.
- [30:43]
Lisa Traeger
So hanging out with them, I'm like, wow. To live a life like this. Like, I wish I knew this. When I was younger, I would have started getting surgery. I would have done whatever I needed to do to have that life. Because I was like, geez, we were just. We. We did the pod. We. We took the train, we went to dinner, we walked around.
- [31:00]
Jared Freed
Were people, like, coming up to them?
- [31:02]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. And it. And it wasn't recognized from their success because they are successful and they get recognized for that, too. This was straight up.
- [31:08]
Jared Freed
They've both been on this podcast.
- [31:10]
Lisa Traeger
Like, like, you look gorgeous. Oh, my God.
- [31:14]
Jared Freed
Your heart.
- [31:15]
Lisa Traeger
Oh, look it. You. Like, everywhere we went. And I, you know, that's also a special thing. There's an in between, but, like, it was just, like, wild.
- [31:24]
Jared Freed
I was talking about this a lot.
- [31:26]
Lisa Traeger
But it was something in the day where I was just like. And then she goes, you know, I like men that wear these certain brands, so I'm gonna start going to the stores and browsing and see who I meet. You should do that. And I go, honey, they would ask me to leave. They'd go, ma'am, you need to leave.
- [31:42]
Jared Freed
You've been here. Ma'am, this. This Carhartt is closing soon. Ma'am, if you. You please buy your work gloves and leave.
- [31:54]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. Have you seen the Substance?
- [31:56]
Jared Freed
What's that?
- [31:57]
Lisa Traeger
It's the Demi Moore movie to me. More movie. That's like. She just won a Golden Globe for. Nominated for an Oscar.
- [32:02]
Jared Freed
No. What is.
- [32:03]
Lisa Traeger
I think you should watch it.
- [32:04]
Jared Freed
Okay.
- [32:04]
Lisa Traeger
It's like, she is. It's really. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen. While I was sitting in the theater, I went, this is what moviegoing is about. But it's about Demi Moore is like an aged, out, famous, sexy woman, and she takes the substance to become younger, hotter version of herself. But there's obviously caveats and rules, and she can't because she craves more and more. And it's like the different ways women are treated. But Dennis Quaid's in. The sound is amazing. It's just, like, visually different too.
- [32:41]
Jared Freed
Okay.
- [32:41]
Lisa Traeger
Color. It's cool.
- [32:42]
Jared Freed
It's like that Bradley Cooper movie where he takes the pill and he can, like, use his whole brain, but, like.
- [32:49]
Lisa Traeger
Similar in the sense, I would say death becomes her. I don't know about this Bradley Cooper, but less comedy. It's just. I mean, she's about to win an Oscar and she's been in this business. She's 62 years old, been in this business for decades, and, like. And Margaret Qualley plays the younger her.
- [33:04]
Jared Freed
I just. I was on a group chat, and she came on at the Golden Globes, like a college group chat. And the guy that I went to college with was like, demi Moore looks pretty good. And I'm like, oh, really? Like. Like, it was like. Like one of my buddies, I saw.
- [33:20]
Lisa Traeger
Her in person, like, six years ago, and she came to talk. She. She was at a show, so she came to talk to me.
- [33:27]
Jared Freed
And you talked to me more.
- [33:29]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
- [33:30]
Jared Freed
And she came up to you.
- [33:31]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
- [33:31]
Jared Freed
And what did she say?
- [33:33]
Lisa Traeger
We were chit chatting. And honestly, I would have changed my life that night, but, like, I was visiting la, so it was a quick convo and I had a spot at one of the clubs. I had to go to my spot. And looking back, I should have never gone to my spot and hung out with Demi Moore all night.
- [33:46]
Jared Freed
Right. Well, this is how crazy we are about comedy. We're like hey, Demi. Gotta go. I have to go do 15 minutes at a fish taco place.
- [33:55]
Lisa Traeger
Yes.
- [33:56]
Jared Freed
Gotta get moving.
- [33:58]
Lisa Traeger
I had, like, a famous new friend come to the Cellar and I was like, reserve a ticket. And Jared's like, you're telling her to reserve a ticket? I go, I just don't. I try not to.
- [34:09]
Jared Freed
Lisa told someone with 5 million Instagram followers to go make a reservation. As if that's like, what you would do. Like, if someone said, again, like, I have people with zero Instagram followers. I'm like, like, I'll put your name in. I got you whatever. But like, but I just wouldn't.
- [34:28]
Lisa Traeger
I did. I go, hey, let me know if you need help reserving.
- [34:31]
Jared Freed
Okay?
- [34:31]
Lisa Traeger
And then she goes, I want my date to do it. And I went, okay.
- [34:35]
Jared Freed
She was.
- [34:36]
Lisa Traeger
And then, of course, it's sold out.
- [34:38]
Jared Freed
Of course. And. And the date, let me just say, didn't look like the reservation making type. Like, he didn't look like a guy that was like, going to be ahead of, you know, on Resi getting the. The dinner reservations.
- [34:51]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, it was. But she's cool. I wanted her to be there for sure. But like, but my other friend, the seller is different. Like, every other place is different than the seller as well, because the seller is just. It's nine to 12 shows a night. It's a lot of moving pieces. It's a lot of people, and it's a lot of people working hard. And so any kind of fork or an annoying person, you don't know what's gonna happen or how someone will behave or if someone's drunk. And it's our workplace, and that's what people forget. It's not a chill party spot. It is a place I really value in my life.
- [35:25]
Jared Freed
It's a. I. I've had this happen. I had someone from the Bachelor reach out and they're like, we want to come. And I, like, got them tickets. And then I walk in and, you know, the manager's like, we've had to ask your bachelor friends to be quiet three times. And I was like, so upset by this. Like, I did you guys a favor. Like a small favor, it's not a big favor, but also, like, I brought you into my. My home, and now they're asking. And then I went on stage. I was like, maybe they're just like, only here to see me. I went on stage and they were talking through my set too. And these are people who, like, you know, it's interesting because it's like, I look at them now, like, if you come to the seller and you don't, and I help you and you act like that. I can't look at you the same way again. If you treat comedians badly, like, I am, like, I. I go, that is like family. Like, those are people that are doing the same thing as me or putting themselves out there, these people. And I see them, like, they have, like, a following. They have people that, like, love them. And I'm like, I. I can't even respect them. Like, I can't. And. And it is. I hate that I'm, like, so affected. Like, I wish I was not, as.
- [36:43]
Lisa Traeger
I said, happened to me. I had this, like, Fox executive. Want to come, like, not, you know, from, you know, the scripted side. Nothing is. You know what I mean? Like a woman.
- [36:54]
Jared Freed
Murdoch was like, get me into the cellar. Yeah.
- [36:56]
Lisa Traeger
No, but it felt like, of course I'm going to try to get this person in that cast shows. Like, I act, you know? And so. And Aaron, when he used to work there, he ran upstairs and he was like, oh, my God, your friends. I go, they're not my friends. Get them the fuck out of here. Kick.
- [37:11]
Jared Freed
Right. Kick them out.
- [37:12]
Lisa Traeger
Those aren't my friends. And then outside, they tried being kind of coy with me. And I go, I heard you weren't behaving. She goes, oh, they were crazy. I go, I heard you were talking right side.
- [37:21]
Jared Freed
You think we're on.
- [37:22]
Lisa Traeger
I don't need to be. Well, that's the thing. That's. That's actually what it is. That's that class of shit. That's why I don't want to go out of my way for someone with 5 million followers, even though she's cool and I like her. It is this thing of, like, the more we embolden these people, the more they act crazy. And I'm not. I will not be a part of it, obviously, if I see Miley Cyrus or, like, I'll be weird. I. Like, I'm not saying I'm this perfect person, but, like, I'm not. I don't want to give in to that. But also, it's. This happened to me once when I was taping my half hour for Netflix. And again, people forget it's our job. Like, it is work. We do work really hard. And there's moments where it's party. I could be drunk on stage, it's whatever. And there's times where it's are in place. It's just all different.
- [38:08]
Jared Freed
I. I understand it's confusing. Like, what we do is fun. I understand it's the mix of alcohol and jokes and party, and it's a weird mix, but at the end of the day, it. I do understand someone being like, oh, this is your work. Oh, you do. You know, like, our job is to make these jokes seem like we just, like, can't, you know, thought of it that minute. Like, if you do a good job of that, then it could be confusing that, like. Like, oh, I. I guess I acted up. I didn't realize I was at a place of business, you know, like, well.
- [38:38]
Lisa Traeger
So I had kind of an old. Like, a distant friend, closer, maybe in Chicago, doesn't do comedy. And they were like, I'm gonna fly to Vegas for your thing. And I go, okay. But I'm, like, working. Like, it's not like, I'm not gonna. She's like, I'm coming. And I'm like, okay. But, like, I. You know, I was right. I was trying to be as clear as I could.
- [38:55]
Jared Freed
So you're going to Vegas to tape this thing, the deplorables, which was like, degenerates. The degenerates. Sorry. They did it. Whatever. They did a half hour series on Netflix where it was, like, a bunch of comedians doing dirty comedy. And so. And they made this whole set. It was, like, beautiful. And I remember you went out there to tape it, and then this woman contacts you, is like, I'm making a trip out of this. And what bothers me about that is, like, this isn't supp. I'm here to support you. No, no, no. You're here to bother me. You're here for your vacation. And I'm honored you're making my taping a part of your vacation. But, like. Like, don't be my problem, you know?
- [39:33]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah, it. You know, there's a difference between support. Like, some people are supportive, and then some people are there for themselves. And there's a difference. And you can see it being a plus one is, like, a really beautiful skill. And I would say I do possess it. When I go to snl, I behave differently than if I was at, like, off the wagon. You know what I mean?
- [39:52]
Jared Freed
Oh, absolutely.
- [39:52]
Lisa Traeger
I met Miley Cyrus outside of snl. She. I would be on a watch list. I behaved because I'm at my friend's fucking job, you know? Like, I know I'm. I know how to be in the background. I know how to be supportive. I know how to go run an errand. I'll take care of that. Like, I. I think it's a skill I possess. My best friend has that skill.
- [40:10]
Jared Freed
Like, listen, this was my. This was my whole theory on why Travis Kelce worked with Taylor Swift. He's a tight end. Tight ends both block and score touchdowns. So, like, they know how to be both. They know how to, like, you know, give themselves up for other people and also be the star and when to do that. So this is in the similar vein. So you. This woman shows up in Vegas, so.
- [40:34]
Lisa Traeger
Then she's in the green room. And, like, in the trip, I didn't. Like, I had some stuff not go right for my half hour. It's fine. It's like, you know, it's young. I'm sure in, like, five years, I'll watch and be like, how cute. But, like, I learned a lot of lessons that made this hour better. It didn't go the way I wanted it. I wasn't feeling 100. And it's a big career moment. I'm trying to keep it together. But in my trailer, it's like, all the Netflix execs, it's all my agents, it's everyone. And this bitch is drunk and trying to command the situation, bragging, talking about her stuff. And I am, like, I am at my job. I am talking to the heads, like, the people that book me and the producers of this. Like, what is going on? Then we went to Big J's. She's doing the same thing, like, domineering this room. But also, it's not, like, in a cool thing. It's not like, I brought Miley, you know, like.
- [41:21]
Jared Freed
Right.
- [41:21]
Lisa Traeger
It's just. It's weird. And it's also our job. We just got off stage. We're with our teams. We're trying to celebrate. Like, it was crazy. Then this is where the twist. And this is, like, the respect of. Like, why do you think I would take your side over these people that work here? These are my. Like, I don't care if that's a door guy or a server. These are my colleagues. Like, this is right. This is who I care about.
- [41:40]
Jared Freed
Right?
- [41:41]
Lisa Traeger
I'm not lying to a doorman for you. Are you out of your mind? These are my people.
- [41:45]
Jared Freed
Right?
- [41:45]
Lisa Traeger
And so this is what happened. Because she had garbage, and she goes, I'll just put this here. Someone will grab it. Yeah, that someone's the pa. Yeah, that's been here for days because we've shot intros for that. Like, we were there for a few days, and then I'm trying to get her into the van, and I was like, oh, I asked production. There's room for you in the van. She goes, oh, you had to ask permission? And it's like. And then Domin tried to talk there and was bragging about knowing a comedian who. The director of this series directed him in a movie, in his own movie. So it's like, right, you are out of your element.
- [42:20]
Jared Freed
You haven't fake. You're not connecting with reality because you.
- [42:23]
Lisa Traeger
Think you're better than these people.
- [42:24]
Jared Freed
Right?
- [42:25]
Lisa Traeger
That's what it is. At the end of the day, you are not acknowledging that we all worked on a thing and it's our crew part. Like, it's our moment. Like, right, we just finished work. And so then she made me feel so uncomfortable when we got to the hotel for the quote unquote after party, which was us being in Vegas at a hotel casino. But I go, listen, you can't be here. She goes, are you asking me to leave? I go, you need to leave.
- [42:46]
Jared Freed
I go, have you spoken since then?
- [42:48]
Lisa Traeger
Yes, she. Well, she texted. It's fine. I've seen her since, like, life is long. I saw her a few months ago. She came to a show. Like, was she better?
- [42:54]
Jared Freed
Did she get it?
- [42:55]
Lisa Traeger
No, but it's, like, different. She did. So this is what bothered me. She was just like, I am, you know, sorry. I didn't. Sorry I didn't want to ruin, like, your Netflix after party. And it's like, it's not. I'm just with the PAs and the producers and the crew.
- [43:10]
Jared Freed
Right?
- [43:10]
Lisa Traeger
I'm with the crew. And you did not be a plus one because that's what I told her. I go, I don't think I can give you the energy you're looking for tonight.
- [43:17]
Jared Freed
Right?
- [43:17]
Lisa Traeger
Because the energy that I need is I'm about to go cry to my manager in my hotel room because I think I did a really bad job on the biggest thing that I've had in my career. And then I'm gonna go down and, like, talk to the director and the people that I've worked with for four days. And you could have been a part of that. You could have been a part of it. Talking with everyone, hanging, being cool, being supportive, being there for me. But you couldn't, because to you, it was this drunk vacation and you were disrespecting everyone on set that you think you're better than or that you're more important than.
- [43:47]
Jared Freed
And that pisses me off to try and play the victim of, like, I guess you're gonna do your big Netflix thing. I'm just little old me. It's like, no, you.
- [43:55]
Lisa Traeger
That's not me. Bitch.
- [43:56]
Jared Freed
Right?
- [43:57]
Lisa Traeger
That's not. That's just not me. If there was shrimp cocktail in a big party, I would probably sneak you in. But I knew that you wanted my attention instead of being a part of this thing. And that's crazy, right? That's crazy.
- [44:11]
Jared Freed
Okay, before we go.
- [44:12]
Lisa Traeger
No, I want to talk more. You always try to end this.
- [44:16]
Jared Freed
Like, I know. I want to make sure that we put out an episode.
- [44:19]
Lisa Traeger
Sounds so strict. Like, but it's not strict. It's like, I am a fun.
- [44:23]
Jared Freed
No.
- [44:23]
Lisa Traeger
Say I'm more of the looser people.
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Jared Freed
We just want people to act right. And we are highly sensitive to. You know. And again, like, again, I always feel.
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Lisa Traeger
Like I'm busting our GM that's running around trying to get tickets. It's just like, get your tickets.
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Jared Freed
Right? Just get your tickets. I mean. Yeah. No, I've had this. I mean, people go, what time do you go on? I don't know.
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Lisa Traeger
But you also would never do, like, I'm probably going to go see this person on Broadway. I'm going to buy it. I'm not going to say a word.
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Jared Freed
Right. Well, this is something my people say. The worst is when people go, well, how do I get tickets? And it's like, you've lived this long on Earth, and now you're asking me how to get tickets. That's you going, can I have a free ticket? How do I get tickets? On is crazy.
- [45:17]
Lisa Traeger
And I love the opposite. Someone messaged me being like, oh, I saw you're gonna be in Philly. Someone I worked with who did makeup on something. And she's like, I can't wait to see you. I go, great, I'll put you on the list. Let me know how many. She goes, that's not why I messaged you. I go, I didn't think that's why you did.
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Jared Freed
Right. No, no. I'm the same way. I do the same thing.
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
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Jared Freed
And. And then someone. Sometimes you're right. You're. Oh, you're in town. I go, I got you. Would love to have you. And they're like, I already got tickets. I'm like, you did? My brother's wife. My brother's wife, Ruthie.
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Lisa Traeger
You know, I'm a big Ruthie. I'm a Ruth.
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Jared Freed
Ruthie's the best. I did shows in Batavia, Illinois. She's bringing the whole news, you know, crew to the show. I go, how many of you? So I can get the tickets? She goes, we already bought. And I'm like, you're buying? What are you doing? Like, Like, I was, like, mad at her, but, like, that's what people who are appropriate do. Like, that's what. That's called class. I mean, like, you literally witnessed the. The other night when we went out to the bar. The classless. Like.
- [46:16]
Lisa Traeger
But I think you could have done something about it too.
- [46:19]
Jared Freed
What could I have done? So to. To bring the listeners in.
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Lisa Traeger
I think you should. Okay, yeah. Why don't you bring it in?
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Jared Freed
I'm sitting with and time for Tiff.
- [46:27]
Lisa Traeger
Tiff. Tough Friday.
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Jared Freed
This is ticked off Tuesday.
- [46:29]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
- [46:30]
Jared Freed
On Wednesday. I already talked about it on Patreon. I told the whole story about how we went to a bar on a Monday night.
- [46:36]
Lisa Traeger
You, me, and thank you for showing me that bar. I love.
- [46:39]
Jared Freed
Great bar, the Spaniard. Shout out Spaniard people. If you live in the area, you're like the spaniard. It's all 23 year olds. Great Sunday through Wednesday bar. We're there on a Monday. We're with two other friends of ours. So it's me with three women. And all of a sudden I get a tap on my left shoulder the other side of, like, Lisa and the two other women on my right. On the other side, I got a shoulder tap. And I look over, she goes, can I steal you for a second? And I go, sure. Like, I was like, the Bachelor. And I go. And she's like, do you know who I am? Do you know me? Do you? And I go. And I'm like, no, I don't. And they're like, they say their name and they explain a little bit. And I go, I do know you. You have messaged me. And so is your mom and so is your brother. And then she tries to, like, basically, like, sass me after approaching me about, oh, I don't listen to anything. I don't listen in your podcast. I'm like, which is fine. I don't need you to do. But like, also, there's like a. There's a thin line between I'm gonna tell you, right? And then she goes, don't you. And then she. She was at my show on her birthday, and she's like, you had an off night? And I go, well, I guess good luck with everything. And I go. And she goes, oh, you don't want. You don't want a confident woman who tells you the truth? And I'm like, no, I don't. Like, I. I don't. I don't want a confident. I want someone who's like, you know, classy and polite. Like that. That'd be like a A better move for me. And it's like. And. And I. I got closed on my tab because I'm like, I have to leave now. And I turned back to you, and you guys were like, like, what happened? And, like, so how could I have played it differently?
- [48:18]
Lisa Traeger
Well, she obviously up because I was way more drunk that night than I think. Because when I woke up the next morning, it was like, wait, Taco Bell. Wait, what? Like, what the is going on?
- [48:31]
Jared Freed
So, like, you were high and drunk and we were drinking. We were drinking. Like, it wasn't like, yeah, yeah, there was drinks being had. Like, and they gave you a drink. You go, I want this drink. And then they brought up the wrong drink. So we had like, a sidecar of whiskey that we were just passing around. Yeah, that was like high proof whiskey. So, like, it was like, things are foggy, you know?
- [48:53]
Lisa Traeger
Yeah. So I think I kept talking about this, but I had just seen a Matthew McConaughey interview about meeting the night he met his wife. And he said he saw her from across the room and was like, oh, my God. But he said, I invited her and your. And her friends. You gotta invite the friends, right? To me, that's, like, normal. And if she wanted to steal you, even on the Bachelor, it's not just you. It's, hey, guys, I'm gonna cut in or I want to talk to Jerry. You know, and then with you, I think once it turns sour, you could have been like, I'm with my friends. Or like, I feel weird I'm ignoring my friends. Because you did give this person, like, a lot of time.
- [49:33]
Jared Freed
Well, there was a moment where I'm like, I'm on a date with her.
- [49:35]
Lisa Traeger
Like, I didn't know because that I thought it was going well. I got. No, because once.
- [49:39]
Jared Freed
Right?
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Lisa Traeger
Once you gave her that much attention, we all turned around. But I was being annoyed because I was like, what the. If it is going well, it's like, oh, these are my friend. Like, I'm like, I just don't know how you like, how this.
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Jared Freed
It wasn't going well. I let it go too long. I agree. That's a good. That's an out. I didn't even think of, like, the whole time. I'm like, how do I, like, end this interaction? Like, I am with my friends. I know. And I.
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Lisa Traeger
And one of the people are from out of town. You worked. Like, it could have just been like, this. You're being rude. Like, you're being mean. I have, I guess, right?
- [50:12]
Jared Freed
Me being nice was also being rude. Like, I guess me being nice to this person is kind of being rude to you guys for a little bit.
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Lisa Traeger
But she. But the vibe should always. But this happened. Like, I've been this person that's been ignored where, like, someone's trying to my friend, and then they just start talking to my friend. And I'm just sitting here, and I'm like, like, in what world do you think you, like, the chances of you getting are less if you include me in this conversation, right? I don't. I don't know. And then the people, my girlfriends who have allowed it and aren't also put off by it, they're not really my friends for long. Like, it's. It's a weird thing, but I'm not a block. But it is just like, if we're hanging out, I don't know how. I'm just. You can't ignore me, right? This feels shitty, and you're ruining my night. And then the friends that are obsessed with male attention in this way that fully give in. It's like, okay, then why would I hang out with you?
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Jared Freed
This is a big piece of advice.
- [51:06]
Lisa Traeger
Because you guys can still flirt. Like, you guys can still flirt. You can exchange numbers. I can go to the bathroom. You could text me to be like, let me leave.
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Jared Freed
Like, but there's power in numbers. There's power in, like, hey, like, I always say to people, I'm like, if you're, like, going to a show and then you go out with your friends afterwards, like, that's a group that I would want to hang out with. With. Like, hey, I'm with my friends. We're at this bar. We're having a blast. Like, come hang. That is, like, low pressure. That is, like, you know, no harm, no foul. My night's good with or without you. And I think when you include the friends, like, that makes everyone like. Like, I. There was a point where I was talking to this woman. I'm going, I am locked the fuck in. Like, I am on a first date that I never agreed to. And I'm letting this go because I'm, like, being polite, and her being impolite is, like, taking advantage of my politeness. But, like, then I'm like, I should have just ended. You know, what you said is right. Hey, my friends are here. Fun.
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Lisa Traeger
Yeah.
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Jared Freed
We were having a good time, and I was mad after. Like, I was, like, not happy.
- [52:12]
Lisa Traeger
But then you were really actually gonna leave, and it's like, have another drink.
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Jared Freed
Right? Well, then I. Well, my out was to close the tab. I Go. Yeah, let me get the tab. And then you guys are like, are you leaving? I was like, like, well, I'll have another drink. Like, you guys, like, get me a drink.
- [52:24]
Lisa Traeger
You know, like, let's, yeah, but I told you this. You will, like, yeah, you'll go talk to a group of divorcees in a.
- [52:30]
Jared Freed
Corner like that for hours about their.
- [52:34]
Lisa Traeger
Hours, and it's like, wait, where's Jared? We're hanging out.
- [52:38]
Jared Freed
You know, enough. Jared. No. All right, Lisa, you're.
- [52:42]
Lisa Traeger
But you're out there. I don't know. Like, maybe I should be doing that. Like, I want to meet someone. You know? It's like, I really need you.
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Jared Freed
You do go out. I, I, I do.
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Lisa Traeger
So it's like, I'm not, But I'm not chatty enough. It's like, it's really, it's kind of like I can only be so strong. Like, you can only be rejected for so many times, then to be like, you know what? I'm like, I can't do this.
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Jared Freed
You're not getting rejected, though. I, I think you're taking. Not getting approached as rejection, and that's, I think, being hard on yourself.
- [53:09]
Lisa Traeger
No, I think I've, I, no, I, I obviously don't give out what I think I'm giving out.
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Jared Freed
Right. You, You're. Because right now, what you're saying is as if you're going up to people and going, hey, I'd like to go on a date with you. And they're. No, but I, I, but that's not what's happening. I think you're, you're getting down on yourself in a way that is too hard. That's my takeaway.
- [53:31]
Lisa Traeger
But, well, yeah, I've gotten some better outfits, and I'm thinking that'll help. Like, I got. I worked with a stylist.
- [53:40]
Jared Freed
I met my, my dream person when I started working with a stylist. List. Okay, everyone go watch the special. It's called Night Owl. It's fantastic.
- [53:47]
Lisa Traeger
I feel like I sounded so serious. This is what happens. It's like, get off.
- [53:51]
Jared Freed
No, I. Listen, this is where the joke chitchat. Wednesday, we chitchatted.
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Lisa Traeger
All right, we are chitchatting.
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Jared Freed
Big chitchatters back next week.
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Lisa Traeger
Boom.