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Hello, and welcome to the Rose Rehash. I'm Jared Freed. We are here Every Thursday on YouTube to recap the Golden Bachelor. It's episode three. I wasn't sure. First of all, I'm coming to you from my hotel room in New York City. I had to be out. I was doing shows. So excuse me for the frazzleness of my hair, and just. I'm all over the place. I took some notes. I was gonna tape this tomorrow, but I was like, there's a lot to go over from tonight. Which is crazy, because when this episode started, and it might be because this is the episode I. After I was on and I'm being a narcissist, but I was like, does this show have the legs? Does this. Does this season have it? Is. Is Mel fun enough to keep this going? Are the women as enthusiastic? And do we care about them as much as we care about the last women? And I gotta say, as I'm sitting here taking notes on the episode, this was a really fun episode. This was like. You have to love reality tv, I think, to, like, really enjoy what happened tonight, because there's some, like. If I'm to be honest, there was some early reality TV show, batshit loony craziness that happened tonight. And it. A lot of it has to do probably with. It's the Goldens. It's the age. They're not kind of like, in tune. I think millennials, Gen Z, I think there's a certain age group and below that knows, you know what. How they could be edited, how you could be looked at, how the world sees you a little bit more. You've heard from an Internet commenter or you've seen the. The venom that can happen online. And I don't know if these people have in the same way, which is the reason the show's really good, the reason it can be sweet. But this episode, it's. It was. So we start, we get to the house. They're working out as they always do. I. I can understand this. When you don't have your phones, there's no tv. What else you gonna do? So they're doing, like, the. The Boomer woman workout class with the blowup yoga balls that does nothing and that. You watch and you're like, is this a workout? Is this. And the thing is, Debbie is leading the workout. And Debbie is a fitness guru, you know, personality. So there is a moment where you're like, I trust Debbie, but I also trust Debbie to have a class that she knows is marketable to A certain type of woman and she's like doing her class and it's like, you know, it's with the ball and they got it over the air and you're like, I don't even know if you could break a sweat doing this. So they start with the workout class. They're at the house, they get the group, they get the. The date note. And the date note says the first one on one today there's gonna be a one on one date. And it's going to Peg. I like Peg. I like that every time they show her, she looks like she's just like risen out of bed and she's like checking to see if there's a robber in the house. It does have that look, as you can see from my live streams. I really just think she's got a funny, very honest look. I think Peg, we're getting all of Peg, we're getting who she is and. And her energy is actually awesome. She's also. I saw a meme about Peg where it's like the first time they've ever seen a beer on the show. She's having a beer. Like, Peg does feel like she'd be at a bar and she'd be the fun person at the end of the bar that's there all the time that is having a cold one. And I like Peg. So she goes on this carnival date with Mel and they go to this carnival that really looks classic carnival. It's got all the games, it's got all the rides. And Peg immediately says, she's like, I love this carnival. Like, I'm here all the time. I've. I've come here before. Mel says he used to come when he played for the LA Rams. So they have a connection to this carnival. Mel's personality showing through. Mel really loves himself some Mel. Mel loves. And listen, I will say this. I know and love a lot of Michigan, University of Michigan alumni. University of Michigan is a school that I love and I know people who went there. There is a very similar vibe to University of Michigan people. They are very high on themselves. They're very proud of themselves. They are. You know, there's a confidence that can come off badly and very I am the king of the world type of energy. And honestly, it's a type of person that if you're not doing it my way, I can't see how another way could be done. And Mel has that vibe. I mean, Mel says that he's very, very, very good at carnival games. That is a quote. Three varies. I Don't know who. You know, I listen, I can say that I enjoy a carnival game. But for someone to say they're very, very, very good, as if they're training in the off season, as if in their backyards they have old milk jugs that they throw rings on to, like, that's a crazy statement. That's a crazy amount of confidence to have. You could say I do well at carnival games, but to say I'm very, very, very, very good. And then he starts competing against Peg. And you could see, like, Peg's good at this because she was a she. She was in. She's a police officer, She's a firefighter. She trains with guns. Like, she's doing the water pistol thing. She's beating them. And you could see that there's, like, a respect given again, to go back to the Michigan alumni thing. Like, oh, okay, I guess if you could beat me, you must be really good or really, really, really good. So they have this date and you could see that, like, Peg is growing on Mel and it's partly because of how well the games are going. So they get to this bench and we're finding out that a common theme on this show is women asking or women being honest and vulnerable with Mel about their past. And it's the power of this show. I think we love this show because the people on it are more relatable and we believe their strife more. We believe, you know, Peg says that she was cheated on and she got divorced due to infidelity. And then she was a mother. She's a mother. And she was really, you know, zoned in on her daughter. And it's all, like, unbelievable and honest and vulnerable and. And she's, like, positive, too. She gives a good vibe. She's like, you know, and that's why I'm here today. And I'm strong and this. And she chose her tattoos that she has with her daughter. And you're like, peg, we love you. And then she's like, so, Mel, what happened in your divorce? And we go back to this vague retelling. He's like, well, there was no cheating. But, you know, she's getting married again. And, you know, I told the boys that she. They should ask their mother if I can come to the wedding. And Peg laughs at that as if it's a funny joke. I'm going to tell you right now, if I'm Peg, I'm going, wait, you don't talk to your ex. What happened? There's, there's, there's follow up Questions there. That's not just like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're gonna ask your sons to ask your ex to go to their wedding? And it's like, so you don't have a good relationship with your ex? Is that what you're saying? Like, Peg, you know, the reason we love her is the reason that she's not really getting us a lot of information, which is. I think we're getting to the point where we want to know what happened. You know, Mel tells the story of like, oh, we're just getting a divorce. And, you know, just one day the papers were on the table, and I guess, you know, we're divorced now. I've been, you know, just out there for a year looking for the one. It's like, Mel, none of that story is deep enough for me. None of that story tells any story. And Peg lets him off the hook because when he makes that joke, she laughs like, it's like Night at the Apollo. She's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're gonna have your sons ask your ex wife about you going to their wedding? I would sit there and go, so you don't talk to your ex wife? What happened? Why don't you talk? Do your sons. Are your sons upset that you don't talk? Do you talk through your sons? Is there a lawyer present? Like, there are so many more questions than he got asked. And he's. It does seem that Mel. That is part of his type, you know, he wants fun and easy and let's go to the carnival, and I better win because I'm very, very, very good at doing a carnival game. And it's like, this is where the show kind of gets interesting for me. Like, to some people, they need Cinderella. They need Mel to be, you know, crying with a tear running down his cheek. And this is what happened in my marriage and open and honest. I kind of like that. We have Peg, who's like a firecracker. She asked the question. Mel doesn't answer. She laughs because she's having fun too. And I'm sitting here going, what the hell's going on here? This narcissist won't tell us why he got a divorce. And he's on a show where he's trying to get married. So we leave. So at the end of the carnival, I have these notes written down. Then they end it with going to Casey and the Sunshine Band. Casey and the Sunshine Band. It was, what a moment. I mean, Casey is dressed crazy. His hair's dyed crazy. He's wearing earrings that are crazy. His background singers and dancers all look like they're on a Gumby. The dancers are, like, posing in their dances. All of it's insane. And Peg is dancing so hard that I thought her hips were going to become dislodged from her waist. And Mel is just standing around her as she danced. And it's kind of telling us, like, you know, if, you know, sometimes with the golden. I. You can see these people at a wedding for some reason, for me, I can see Peg being out there on the dance floor and, you know, Mel sitting at a table with a bunch of men drinking whiskey and talking about stuff and, and laughing, you know, like, it just, you can see what the vibe is. And at this point, you look at them as a couple and you go, I could see this. I could see this. It's just, you know, Mel and his fun time lady, you know, it's not very serious, but they love to go to, you know, like, they go to a beach that has a fun band playing. In this moment, Peg reminded me, I go to a bar in Delray beach called Johnny Brown's, and there's always women there dancing to the live band. Peg would fit in there perfectly. She'd be shaking it down and doing the point dance while, you know, with a bunch of women she just met that night in the bathroom. So we get done with the carnival Casey Sunshine band dance, and we go back to the house. This is when the episode gets a little nutty cuckoo. We have the women, the women sitting around and Nicole, who is in the lead of sorts. She won the roast date and was making out with Mel in the pool. Nicole announces that she might not be here for the right reasons. And we kind of felt with the gold and that we had aged out of influencer aspirations. And what we find out is that the want to be famous, the want to be an influencer, the want to have a platform is ageless because Nicole starts saying that she's not just dating Mel, she's dating America. And she's telling this to Roxanne. And Roxanne is just like, oh, really? And you could tell Roxanne is taking in information that she's not even. She's just collecting data, and she's collecting it to bring to the rest of the women to be like, oh, my God, you're not gonna believe what Nicole told me. And then Nicole sits with the rest of the women and she's like, she says, I, I, you know, we're like the Housewives, but it's different than the Housewives, because they're on every season. But we're gonna be, like, unbelievable, because look at how pretty we are. This is when Nic. I'm like, does she even know she's on tv? Because she even says the word influencer, she says. Which is like, heyman. You can't say influencer. You can't say Beetlejuice. You can't say that on a reality show, because that makes you kind of like lava. You're untouchable. Everyone backs away from you. Because now you're here for something, you've become too aware. Nicole just basically looks at them and goes, I'm looking to have a platform. I'm looking to be a new nutritionist. I'm looking to be, you know, do my health food and cook for people. And you're like. And then she goes, and we're gonna get a. We're gonna get a big following because we're all beautiful. You know, last season's women, they don't look like this season's women. And when she said that, I'm like, sitting there going, who is gonna follow this person? Like, I don't think Nicole gets it. You don't just go on TV and get a following. You go on tv. We like the person we see, and then we follow whatever you do. It's not like, hey, everyone in America, I do health food, and I'm also being kind of a bitch to last season's women who just visited us and had the most fun with us at a slumber party, you know? And you're going, I don't know if she knows that this whole, like, likability thing is kind of an important thing. Unless you're like, you know, Maria, who, you know, I didn't think was very likable at all and gained an audience via unlikability. But, I mean, that's a whole nother story. I'm just saying it was interesting to me that Nicole didn't like. I'm like, who. Who do you think's following you? And also her point about the Housewives being on every season. Yeah, that's like, kind of a big deal that they're on every season. You're on for a month. Like, I don't know. It was kind of delusional. So we get to the. The group date, and they're gonna do a People magazine photo shoot, which is like. They name it something like, you know, you could be beautiful at any age. To me, when you name it, you kind of take away from the fun of it. Beautiful at any age. That's like, you know, in a way, that's like being like, oh, look at, look at. They're trying look at. And you're like, wait a minute. Why don't just have a photo shoot? Here are the women from the Golden Bachelor. We can do the math on beautiful at any age, which we will, but you don't have to, like, say, the women from the Golden Bachelor. You can be beautiful at any age. Like. Like, it's almost a little bit too much. Like, it's almost insulting. So they do this photo shoot, and they all look wonderful. They all look great. They all put on outfits and a big storyline. Is that Carol. I keep getting her name wrong. Carol is gonna have to wear a towel. And Carol's getting a little bit tough to listen to. Carol, who is like, if you said paint the picture of a cartoonish beautiful woman, you'd paint Carol as one of those pictures. She's beautiful, and she has the look that is, like, California beautiful. Like, the blonde hair, like, you know, big smile, you know, you know, hot woman. And she's like. And you can tell she's going, well, I don't know, I gotta wear this, you know, towel. And I'm so weird, and I'm so awkward. And it's like, this is another moment where you're like, do they know this is a trope we make fun of? Like, Nicole had no idea that, like, you know, saying I want to be an influencer on a dating show is really not likable. Carol, who's beautiful without question, is beautiful and looks amazing, saying how insecure and, oh, I don't know, little old me in a towel. And it's like, I think another era would be more aware of what they would sound like because we have the camera like this at all time. And I'm not saying that, like, we're smarter. I'm just saying when you're used to doing this and you're used to doing this and you're reading what. What commenters say about you in any small way, you kind of know how to work the angles around sounding like you're a little bit tone deaf. And I think a lot of the things here with, you know, with Mel saying he's a very, very, very good carnival game player without any wink or any tongue in cheek, having Nicole say she wants to be an influencer, having Carol tell us how. How awkward and, oh, my God, it's like, you know, we've all seen the movie. Never. She's all that. Oh, my God, she took out her Ponytail. She's a beautiful woman. Who would have known? Like, we've made those jokes, so we know not to be those jokes. So I thought it was interesting, because then we have this group date. They do a photo shoot. The photo shoot goes well. And there's a point in the photo shoot where, you know, Carol gets her moment. Oh, my God. I don't feel as awkward as I thought I'd feel. And. And then there's a point where it's Carol, Nicole, and Cindy as, like, them three with him. And you're like, man, these are people that are, like, really going for it. Like, you know, Cindy, who's fallen head over heels from Nicole, has herself, like, inserted into his armpit. And then Carol off to the side being a little awkward, but, like, in the fray. So we're seeing people establish themselves as front runners. So now we get to the post. Oh, and then the craziest part about this date is they get to the end of the photo shoot, and for some reason, the photographer is tasked with choosing a winner. We didn't even know this was a competition. And he says, yes, Cindy and Mel had the best connection. And you go, okay. And now he says, you two are going to get your own special photo shoot. And they pull them off. They pulled them off to the side. And I guess their prize is that they got to be photographed making out in the sand while everyone watched. Like, and your prize is tape a porno. And you're like, what? This is the prize? This is. They don't get, like, a private moment. How about you let them, you know, tuck away behind the curtains where everyone got changed into their costumes? Like, why does it have to be like, hey, you guys can roll around the sand and have the seagulls watch you have sex on the beach? It's like, this wasn't. And they go at it like, they have no qualms. They're going at it. They're making out. And all the women are just watching from the side just like, oh, that's cute. And you're like, this is bizarre. So then we go to the post. You know, date day. Everyone's dressed great. Everyone looks great. The lighting is great. They find this really good spot. And Robin makes the classic reality TV show dating mistake. The classic dating show mistake. Robin says, I'm gonna take it upon myself to be the messenger to Mel about there are some women not here for the right reasons. The mistake Robin made was getting involved because the real. You know, the real thing with a dating game show is you have to Take whatever time you get and use it for yourself. You can't spend it on other and their problems and why they're not good enough. You have to say why you are good enough. Robin turns into friend and, you know, accomplice, you know, basically turns into like, my friend Robin, as opposed to, like, Robin, who I'm going to date because she reports that someone is here for the wrong reasons. Also, Robin, you know, there's an old line from the Wire. If you're going to shoot for the king, you better not miss. And she doesn't take a full shot. She doesn't say a name. She names no names. Mel doesn't believe her. He's like, I think everyone here is being honest. And it's like, you know, and you're telling this to Mel, who loves Mel, who loves Mel more than Mel. Mel is going to say, well, I'm in touch. I'm smart. I would know if someone was lying to me because I'm Mel. I went to the University of Michigan. I get it. I went to one of the best public schools in the country. I was coached by Bo Schembechler. I played in the NFL. Why would I not know when I'm being lied to by a woman? And you're like, okay, cool. Just every man in the, you know, for the. In the. In the. In the history of the world has a story of a woman who had them wrapped around their finger. But Mel, you're the one who gets it. You're the one who's not to be tricked. Like, so Mel, confident Mel, hears Robin and goes, thanks, but no thanks. I don't believe you because I'm smart enough to realize if I'm being lied to. And now we get to the end of the group date. Carol gets the rose for being so open and finally kissing him and wearing the towel. And it's all, you know. And this is all to say Debbie, you could see, was very upset. Debbie, who I mentioned last week, is really, you know, getting set up to either be the bachelorette or for us to watch the fall of an Empire. Because Debbie's the one who's 65, never got married, wants to get married. They put her in a wedding dress to do a. A beach bride photo shoot with her and Mel. And there's a point where you go, you think of the producers, like, these producers are ruthless, like, to put her in a wedding dress. And she's like, I had a wedding dress on once and it never happened. And you're like, oh, my God, Debbie. Debbie, I hope you. I hope you do okay from all of this. Because then she goes and does the photo shoot and she doesn't get the rose. And you can read it all over her face. She's, you know best. As she should be. But, like, you were wearing a Reddit. You're wearing a wedding dress. Five minutes ago, I would be fucking pissed, too. So now we go back to the cocktail hour party, which is going to be a tailgate. This is where it gets even crazier. So they decide they're going to make lemon bars. Nicole says that at some point, Mel said his favorite dessert is anything lemon. I think that's a crazy answer to be like, hey, what's your favorite dessert? And to say, anything lemon. I can think of lemon meringue pie, lemon bars and lemon popsicles as, like, the only, like, off the top of my head, lemon desserts. That's almost more of a riddle than it is an answer. Like, what's your favorite dessert? Cake. What's your favorite dessert? Ice cream. I love a sundae. I love apple pie. I love pie a la mode. There's so many answers that are so much more specific that it's like, it almost feels like Mel, this works in his personality of like, yeah, I like lemons. Why don't you impress me with that one? And the women do, they, he says, jump. And they say, how high? Because now Nicole's in the kitchen with Jerry, with Cindy, and I think another woman, Nicole, looks like she's like running a kitchen. Like, they're all stirring in a bowl. They're all making lemon squares. And you're like, what is going on here? And then Nicole, during the tailgate, brings the lemon squares to Mel and she does say, everyone made them, but I made them. She makes a point to say she tries to cover herself. She goes, everyone made them. But, like, I made them. I'm the one. And she's the one that delivers them, delivers the lemon bars to them. And you're like, so Nicole's taking full credit for the lemon bars. She sits with Mel to watch him taste them. And Mel says, I went to culinary school. And Nicole's like, I went to culinary school too. And we already know that Nicole's dream is to have, you know, health food on her Instagram page. So now they're finding that they have this in common. Then Mel says, he went to culinary school, but he only did soft sauces. Sauces and soups, which is. I didn't realize you could choose a specialty when you go to culinary school. I didn't think you could just be like, I majored in liquids. I only do. And what attracts someone to sauces and soups as opposed to solids? You're like, I'm only doing liquids, no solids. That's not what I came here for. How would you even know? When you go to culinary school, that's what you want to do. I'll do icings, but I ain't doing the cake. Like, this is a crate to me. The information we got was, I mean, more than he's ever said about his ex wife. And then Nicole goes, here's the lemon squares. And he tries them and he takes a bite and he eats it and he goes, solid. That is the craziest response to someone making you a homemade lemon square that I've ever heard. He couldn't give a compliment. He couldn't say they were delicious. You couldn't say they're great. There's points in life where lying is just the nice thing to do. And if you don't, you have to really hold your ground and not care how you're making someone feel. And I believe this is how Mel is. For Mel to look at this. This person, the eye, who claim she made the lemon squares, which she didn't, and go, yeah, they're solid. How. How hard is it to get a compliment out of you? Is that the rest of our life, am I gonna, you know, do things for you, and I'm gonna have to, like, make you hope that it does well on the Mel scale? Yeah, I give. What are you doing, a pizza review for Barstool? Oh, yeah, These lemon squares, about a 7.3. How about you say they're delicious? I can't thank you enough. These are amazing. I've never had someone think of me in this way to cook for me. And you know when I even just said a vague idea of what dessert I like, I said, I like lemon things. And you came back with an actual product like Mel. You can't just say they were delicious. And this is the most amazing thing someone has done for me, even though Nicole didn't really do it for you. It was a crazy scene. We get to the. Oh, also at the tailgate, they play beer pong with prune juice. It wasn't even an ad. Like, I don't even understand who that joke is for. The prune juice for old people thing is, like, so old. Like, that's like Nick at night shit. Like, that's not even. Like, I don't know what producer thought we were gonna go oh, prune juice. Like an old person. Like, I don't even know any old person who drinks prune juice. Isn't that a fiber pill? Now, that's, like, comes in pill form. So that didn't even make sense. We go to the rose ceremony, we lose Robin, we lose Jerry, and we lose Roxanne. I'll miss Roxanne because she had pickleball outfits on every day. She must have packed 7,000 pickleball outfits. Robin was great. Robin reminded me of. She reminded me of from Bea Arthur. She kind of had a Bea Arthur look from Golden Girls. I enjoyed Robin's presence. And Jerry. Jerry was wonderful. Jerry had a wonderful moment where she owns a company that her and her husband started. Husband passed away. She had a great story. She got a special goodbye from Mel. You could see that there was love for Jerry there. And then they end it all in Peg. Peg, who has a beer and doesn't care about where her jeans come from. You know, like, she's buying jeans at a. At a. At a thrift store. Like, Peg just has a vibe. She goes, let's jump in the pool. And you could see, like, the women are like, well, I'm in my gown. I don't know if I want to jump in the pool. And then they all jump in the pool. So a crazy episode, a fun episode. More fun than I thought it was. And then even more fun than when I, like, went back and reviewed it. I was just like. There was a lot of, like, wild stuff. I. I think the. The view of Mel's personality just gets more and more interesting as the show goes on. So that's it. Back next week. Boom.