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Jared Freed
Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a ch Chat Wednesday too. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. It's a Chit Chat Wednesday and today's guest is an OKP original key player, Nathan McIntosh. If you're watching this, go watch his special. It's on YouTube. He is so fantastically funny. It's in the link of this episode. Today we get into all subjects. We just keep going as it goes with Nathan McIntosh. He's such a great comic, such a great guest. I want you to watch and enjoy and at the end, I want you to watch my new segment. I'm testing out. I'm tinkering. I'm always tinkering Here on the. In the jcu, there's a new segment called Worst five. If you want your worst five read and talked about on this show, send it to jtrain podcast gmail.com. we just do the worst five and today we do male names. Worst five male names. So if you want to send in your worst five male names or one name that you think is horrible and you can write about that or but more importantly, send in new subjects. You can do worst female names. Anything. We'll go broad. Anything you want. The worst five. My guest and I will discuss it. So enjoy today's episode. Boom. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. Is J Train Jared Freed coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? That's right, every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday where I sit down with a comedian, a friend, an expert. Today we have all three. We have a friend, we have a comedian. And I would say he, along with myself, an expert in complaining, a favorite of the J Train Podcast, a a known commodity on the JCU, the J train cinematic universe. Nathan McIntosh, thank you for coming on the show. How are you?
Nathan McIntosh
Thanks for having me, first of all. And I'm okay, man. If I get. If I can get one quick complaint.
Jared Freed
Out of the way, please. That was my first thing. What are you annoyed about? That was my first question. It's on my pad. I got right. What are you annoyed about?
Nathan McIntosh
It's so stupid. It has nothing to do with anything and it's not even worth talking about. But, but I'm going.
Jared Freed
You're in the right place.
Nathan McIntosh
Exactly. What else we do. I. I You know, the mta, You've written it. It is so this today. Okay? There was, first of all, a train just decided to go express. The next train was not in service. And this, this is my. This, this is where. Okay, so the next train is not in service, but this driver, as he's passing the platform, he. He waves at everybody.
Jared Freed
No.
Nathan McIntosh
As if to be like, not. You're not getting on this. And you go, buddy, you're. You're us. We're you. Don't. Don't pretend that when you're not driving the train, you're in a Ferrari. You. You.
Jared Freed
Right.
Nathan McIntosh
When you're not driving the train, you're riding the train. So just, just, just have the decency to not wave at sweaty people in a hot June day who are waiting for the train. You monster.
Jared Freed
Understand where we're coming from that the last thing we want to see on the planet is anyone moving in the direction that we would like to be moving right now. Don't. Don't even look happy. If anything. If anything. On their way. By the only. Yeah.
Nathan McIntosh
100.
Jared Freed
That's it. This is the only.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
If you're watching on YouTube, if you.
Nathan McIntosh
Went, like, one of the.
Jared Freed
Right.
Nathan McIntosh
Like, I don't know, man. They told me to just blow through the station, right? I'm just a guy that. Or controls a big metal box, but.
Jared Freed
I don't control it Wasn't me. A little like, hands like this. Nothing I could do.
Nathan McIntosh
Give.
Jared Freed
Show me nothing I can do.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes.
Jared Freed
In Pictionary. In. In. Or hold up a sign. Hold up a sign that shows how much you make in a year as a writing.
Nathan McIntosh
Decent amount of money. I think it's a decent amount. Honestly.
Jared Freed
At least I would. Well, at least it's like, this is my job. Yeah. Listen, that's like one of those jobs that, like, my dad. My dad, there's some jobs where he's like, he talks about how much the job makes as if, like, they make $10 billion a year. Like, to him, like, be, you know, the garbage man. That is like, the famous. Like, they make a lot of money. Okay. I don't know a lot of people with summer homes that are garbage men. Like, I, I, I do agree they're making more than maybe I would assume. But let's not, you know, sit here. Like, my dad's, like, I. I really missed the boat. That's where I should have been. You know what I mean? And that again, that sounds bad because I guess we have to. Like, it sounds bad. You can't be Like, I don't want to be a garbage man. You know, but you also go, so we all say they make so much money.
Nathan McIntosh
I, I will say that I fully, when I see them. I might not have thought this years ago, but when I see a garbage man now, I, I, full respect. Do you know what would be out there if there was no, let's just say, Jared for half a second, we'll get back into what we were talking about.
Jared Freed
No, you're right, because I'm laughing because as you say this, I'm like, there's, I have looked at garbage man. And I'm like, headphones in. Listen to a podcast also, thank God somebody's doing this. Yeah. I actually look at it and I go, that sounds like, that seems like a job that would put me at peace.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes, yes, you could, you could, you could check out and just, and you're.
Jared Freed
And, and, But I don't know what the, the worries of a garbage man are. I don't know.
Nathan McIntosh
I, I, I don't either. But, you know, you can kind of. Yes, you're right, you can be a piece. Because in, in one weird way, you're almost invisible to the world. And that's not great. It's the same way that, like, a janitor in an office building knows where, where all of the CEOs mistresses are buried because nobody even knows he's in the room. So they're just like, yeah, I, I, I killed Francine in the south of France. And you know, what's her family going to do about it? I'm rich. Janitor's just picking up some papers. Garbage man, same deal. Mopping.
Jared Freed
Yes, mopping, same deal. But furniture. Yeah.
Nathan McIntosh
If you stop taking the garbage out of your house, can you imagine? Can you. And you're just one man with some garbage.
Jared Freed
You make a great point. Because at my building in New York, where I was living for the last four years, the garbage day, where you see, like, the garbage get taken, the operation, the, the, the getting the garbage from this apartment out to the street, that was like a huge part of the guys who worked at the building's job. Like, that was like. And you go, what if they just took a week and didn't do this? Like, we'd be just holding up garbage without knowing what to do.
Nathan McIntosh
Like, do you know what happened in Toronto years ago, man? Or maybe I'm messing this up with a blizzard. Never mind. Either way, the, you, you can't, you cannot wave when you pass by in the.
Jared Freed
No, you can't wave as if you're on a parade float, you can't. You're not miss. You're not Miss New York. And passing by during Proud Pride Month.
Nathan McIntosh
If you went to McDonald's and you're like, can I get a big flurry? And they're like, you know, the ice cream machines down while they're eating one.
Jared Freed
And you.
Nathan McIntosh
Come on, man, at least put it away, right?
Jared Freed
That's the same thing as waving while the subway goes by. And here's the thing. New York City. And listen, as the listeners know, I've moved to Delray Beach, Florida.
Nathan McIntosh
So true.
Jared Freed
I moved. I'm doing. I'm there for the summer at a minimum.
Nathan McIntosh
Oh, wow.
Jared Freed
And I'm going, like, back and forth and up and down and. But when you're traveling, you know, New York City, the. The grind of it is. No, your body is your vessel. There's no. There's no shell, like a car, you know, like, so when you go to the subway, when you're, like, packed up to go on the subway, that's. Nathan's going to do his daily routine. So it's like your. Your pockets are full, you're dressed for a hike. You're going on a hike.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, a life hike. It's. It's like a hike. It's like a pioneer hike. I'm going to get rations, right? I have to. I'm walking, and there's buffalo. I'd almost argue it's harder than whatever a pioneer had to deal with. They might have had, like, gangrene or. Or, you know, whatever. You know, they got some kind of.
Jared Freed
Weird trials and trips.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, yeah, something. They got some kind of weird plant infection that's eating their brain, but they don't know that yet. But most of their walk is just, you know, just. Just. Just nature, just shrubs and rocks to get any. And they. They have to hunt their food. They had to hunt their food. But, like, to go anywhere here, you always got to be looking around. I don't ride the train. I don't wait on the platforms listening to music. You can't. There's. There's knife fights, but there. There's people with machete.
Jared Freed
Are you experiencing that? I. I mean, I. I personally.
Nathan McIntosh
No.
Jared Freed
Okay.
Nathan McIntosh
I hear what you're saying.
Jared Freed
This is. Gets me bothered, you know, leaving New York now, it's like I. When you leave New York, you get front row seat to the worst human being alive. That tells you how dangerous it is. Good thing you got out. It got so bad, right? And I. I'm not going to be that person. Listen, if I saw that in my everyday New York dealings, I would say that I've never dealt with that. Like, I.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes, I've never been attacked, thankfully. However you look. You ever look at New York and look, I'm in.
Jared Freed
The news is scary.
Nathan McIntosh
The new. The news just in the city. Sometimes you go, why would somebody pick up two children and throw them at a bus? Why? Why? Why would they do that?
Jared Freed
They're there and that. The stories they're doing on New York City news, you're like, where? And then, like. And then it's like a street that you've been on. You're like, there. Yeah, yeah.
Nathan McIntosh
Sometimes it's deep. Deep Queens. And I'm like, thank God. Because I'll see a thing that's like, man eats woman's face in Queens. And I go, damn it. I. And then it's like, no, but it's so far into Queens, it might as well be off the map. It might as well be in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean where the Titanic sank, because it's so far. It would take you seven trains, six cars. You're never going to be here.
Jared Freed
I want this to be worth your while. Fuck. I set my alarm. I'm in Pittsburgh and I set an alarm to take a nap. There was a thunderstorm in the area, and I. I don't know. It's weird to have a thunderstorm in a city, like, during the day. I don't know why. I'm like, there's something more ominous and scary like a thunderstorm, I would think. At night. It's. Now we're getting into summer. I wanted to plug your special down with tech. It's on YouTube. The link is in the bio. This episode you were on before to promote it. But we want, if you haven't watched it, a great watch. It's you being angry at tech. The whole special.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
Am I describing it in a way that's annoying you right now?
Nathan McIntosh
No, not at all.
Jared Freed
The bits are great. I know the bits. They're hilarious. Anyone who's listening or watching immediately go and just, like, mark it and make sure you watch it. Do you have any of the things you talked about on it was done a year ago. Have any of them come to fruition? Are you seeing people come to your side? Because there's a piece of me that's like. A lot of the stuff you were talking about is stuff people would laugh at but didn't really believe in. Or maybe you thought you were screaming from the rooftops and you're the crazy person. Are you getting people? Are there, is there anything from that special that you're like, man, I was on that one.
Nathan McIntosh
Well, there is more people, more of the. So I, I, I have a whole joke about how I'm scared of AI because the people that made AI are scared of AI and there's, I hate.
Jared Freed
That is something you had where I was like, you, you're so right. Because the, every interview with an AI person, the insider is always the most hor. Horrifying interview. And it's like they're doing it. It's a lot like the New York one news where, like, they're doing it because this is clickbait. But it's always like, guy who created the code.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
Doesn't know what we're going to do.
Nathan McIntosh
And you're like, what? I always listened because I, I don't have an Alexa. I don't have a, I'll never walk into a room and talk to a thing. I just don't care. I'll use my arms for the rest of my life to hit a switch. And if I don't have arms, guess what? I'll jump and bang my face into a light switch. Or I'll kick a foot and if I somehow end up like Stephen Hawking, I'll just blow into a little tube and bang my chair into the wall until the light turns on. I'll just never talk to a thing. But in the last couple, even in the last couple of weeks, there's a few more AI people who are coming out and being very horrified about these things. In terms of jobs, 20% of the job market will be toast very soon. Says a man who works in the business.
Jared Freed
It's, it doesn't make sense that this is when you start to become, like, annoyed at government because you go, aren't they hearing these things too? No one's doing anything. No one's like. Because here's the thing about, like, someone asked me why I got very deep about stand up comedy, about comedy. And, you know, you and I were talking a few nights ago just about like, who sells tickets, who doesn't sell tickets, and people who get big on the Internet or tick tock and then suddenly they're doing stand up. And I was thinking about it and I got, like, kind of warm inside. I was like, it's a puzzle. I really love doing, like, all of comedy. Like, I love figuring out the bits. I love trying to figure out where to, like, do what to do with a podcast and what segments to do and create, create, create. I just have a, I do love doing that. And what I find from these people who kind of pop off and in a year and start doing stand up is they have to learn if they love it or not. They don't even know. And they might find out. They don't. You know, so when with this whole like, you know, and I'm like, and I was thinking of like, that's why people like to work. You know, they're happy to create. And you know, some people are miserable in their jobs, but like, there's something in your job that you have. If you're doing it, I'm, I'm hoping there's something. You go, that's the thing I get to do. You know, for us, we get to do standup. You do all the other crap to get to do this one thing that really makes you happy and fulfills you.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
And it's like, if we take away 20 of the jobs I know people will go, well, no one wants to be a garbage man. No one wants to be. But you go, no, no, the garbage man. We just talked about it. They're at peace. They, I, I help people. No one would have done this if it wasn't me. And it's like you're gonna say that 20% of people. Again, someone might say, no one wants to be the jobs that are getting taken away. Well, someone wants to go to work and have a family go, thank you for getting dinner tonight.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah. No, because people need things to do. Because also nobody wants to live under a bridge and drink their own piss to live.
Jared Freed
Right.
Nathan McIntosh
That's, that's a pretty, that's a lot worse than any office job you can get.
Jared Freed
Well, even basic income. Like, I, I'm, I, I do understand the premise of like giving people a thousand dollars a month to like, to like, I, I understand where that comes from. And I'm not, I'm like, I'm for that done the right way, you know, like the, the universal basic income. Consider and considering what is going on as far as jobs are concerned, like, I don't know. I, it just, when I hear at least it's creative. A response to 20 of jobs going away, you know?
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, potentially. But to answer your first question about why doesn't that the government absolutely knows, but people can't do anything because other, they can't count on other countries stopping. So the fear that America has is like, if America stops working on AI and they don't get to singularity first that China will and then we're all doomed because China will be in control of the whole world. So you have. Even though, you know, even though everybody knew. Even though everybody knew with nukes, right? But, but people control nukes. So most people, we, you know, they're not like, I'm gonna blow up the whole world because then I'm on it. You can't do that with an AI. But even though people know the danger of it, they go, yeah, but if we don't do it, somebody else will. And it's like, why don't we all come together like the movie Armageddon and go, hey, we need to, we need to figure out how to put Bruce Willis on the fucking meteor and blow it up and stop it so that we can all continue to stay and living.
Jared Freed
This is, I mean, that's the problem with everything. If we got together before the flight and we said, hey, you 17 little tiny old ladies, your middle seat. Hey, big shouldered guys, you guys are on aisle and window. We're all going to be comfy, cozy if we sit this way. No one does that. They go, I want aisle, yeah.
Nathan McIntosh
And how about this?
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Nathan McIntosh
This is. This is another stupid complaint because now this is a really small one compared to. AI can we please, in any decent society, start boarding the plane from back to front? I understand that people. Look, look, cocksucker. I've also been in a first class seat. Okay? But. Grow the fuck up. Sit in the. Sit in a seat and drink your. Here's what we can do for people in first class. You get a latte in the front. We have to seat row 36 first. It makes sense.
Jared Freed
Nathan. I'm with you. And especially because row 52 is usually their first. You know they're not in the lounge. You know there's a lounge. I know the lounge is. You know the furnace they're sitting on. Yes.
Nathan McIntosh
Equinox.
Jared Freed
I. So why don't we go. I think this is all solved. To me. I've talked about this for years. Strict gate agent. I think the gate agents should be drill sergeants. Former drill sergeants. And they go row by row. So. Not zones. You go row back to front row by row.
Nathan McIntosh
Okay.
Jared Freed
Done by drill sergeants. And if you don't have the ticket that they asked for, loudly to the. Nope, ma' am. This is not in shame. So you say it loudly. A bell goes off if someone gets up there and it's the wrong row getting, like, scanned.
Nathan McIntosh
But. But we both agree on back to front. I mean.
Jared Freed
Cause I agree with you, but it has to be done meticulously. Like, I. I can't. Back to front. Can't be done. Zone one. And it's the back. No, no, no. Row. We're waiting on six people that are in row 52.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
And then their time is up. You get. Everyone gets a boarding time. How about that?
Nathan McIntosh
Okay.
Jared Freed
And if we get past your boarding time, you're never getting on. Like, I just think we need more rules and stricter.
Nathan McIntosh
I. I'm not against that. You have.
Jared Freed
If we go back, we give you.
Nathan McIntosh
A five minute window to get into. To row 78 or whatever. Because it's a. It's a. It's a full fucking mile from the front of the plane to the back of the plane.
Jared Freed
That's fine. Yeah. The drink thing before the flight. That's not even what I'm angling towards. You know, I think 99.9% of our plane boarding problems are because of wanting to have your bag directly above your head.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes.
Jared Freed
So if we made everyone check their bags, if they Said we don't do everyone checks. I think the boarding would go in seven seconds.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, yeah.
Jared Freed
If you just said everyone's got to check it back. We don't have overhead. Just take away the overhead.
Nathan McIntosh
Take it away? Yeah, get away. Get rid of it. Then we have more space. Maybe put some skylights.
Jared Freed
Right, Put some skylights, take away the overhead, everyone does it. And then honestly, we could board later.
Nathan McIntosh
2:00Pm Flight is now we're just going to decide. It's. Just give it. It's a half hour window. You show up and we'll just like casually get on now.
Jared Freed
Right? Well, they kind of do that in Europe. Okay, let's. I got, I got. So everyone go down with tech. It's on YouTube. Wait, what was so the. The complaint about AI? You think people have come more to you?
Nathan McIntosh
Yes. And sex robot stuff, because those are getting like, good, good, good, good. And there's also like, AI boyfriends and girlfriends now, which is just like, man.
Jared Freed
Well, people are using chat GPT to like, message people on dating apps. You know, like, that's.
Nathan McIntosh
Buddy.
Jared Freed
We.
Nathan McIntosh
We live in a real hell. We live in a hell. I think it's a hell. And I know there's a lot of people. Here's. Here's the thing. We don't even have to. Because I know you're trying to get to a segment. I apologize.
Jared Freed
No, I. I got. Listen, this is. Okay, I. I'm with you. We're watching Contra. I was literally when we were going to tape, I had ESPN on and we're watching. I'm as fearful as you, but I think maybe I'm seeing it from a different angle too, because I was like, do you watch espn? Sometimes I have it on in the hotel when I'm on the road. They. As we were taping, Mike Greenberg is on the get up studios in New York. You know how they have those, like, nice New York studios that. Look at the water. He goes, this is the last day of our New York studios. And he's like, you know, we're. We're leaving this spot, but we're coming back Monday. Back better than ever. And I'm like, no, you're not. You're coming back Monday. This is contraction. This is. I'm watching. You know, when ESPN had studios in New York City, they moved there. This idea that we're getting bigger, we're. We're getting grander. Look at how beautiful our studios are. We're. That we're expanding so much that we're going to the big city. We don't care about the rent in New York City. City. We're such a huge network that being here matters. And now we're watching TV contract before our eyes. And he's like, don't worry, we'll be back Monday, back bigger than ever. What, from Bristol in a closet studio because you couldn't afford the Manhattan real estate to do don't tell us it's raining when you're peeing at us type of thing. And I think around us, we see a lot of people telling us, oh, it's okay, but you're like, that's a contraction move.
Nathan McIntosh
There's also a lot of people who for some reason decide not to listen to the people who made the stuff crying about it. And they're like, oh, they're just being dramatic. Or people will say to me that AI is just a better form of Google, which is not necessarily true. And then people will say to me, maybe the lead. My least favorite thing that people say to me, they go, I am also worried about AI. That's why I'm nice to it. I'll talk to Chatgpt and I'll be like, thank you, Chachi. BT and I'd like to let everybody know that people were nice to Jeffrey Dahmer. Everybody that went into his house was very nice to him. And they were eaten, Jared. Eaten.
Jared Freed
Do they think that they're gonna be like, I mean, to me, those people are the ones you have to really watch out for. They're. What do they think they're gonna be, like, the gimps for the. Like, yeah, for the. The dominant, you know, robot class. Like, do you. Are we going to be in cages while looking at, like, the person that was nice to the toaster oven on a leash next to the toaster oven, like, getting pet by it? Like, yes. Is that what they are angling for?
Nathan McIntosh
Yes.
Jared Freed
Are they angling to be the good human pet to Alexa? Like, that's bizarre. That's actually, like, to me, that person, when they say that, like, to me, that they would do anything. They would slit your throat before being mean to the robot that might take over the planet.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah. It's so dumb. And also this. This was going to say. And then again, we don't even have to delve into this, but I get messages too, with people being like, well, AI is great for therapy because of. Because I'm neurodivergent. Or AI is great for teaching because it teaches me the best because I'm neurodivergent. Jared. I'm just gonna say this Sentence so we can move on. If I never again hear the word neurodivergent on this plane or any other, I swear to God, if I somehow get sucked into the nether realm and have to fight my way up the Mortal Kombat ladder, kill Shang Tsung to end up back here, if I never hear the word neurodivergent again.
Jared Freed
Let me, let me give a more empathetic version of what you're saying because I think I hear hear you. Neurodivergent is going the way of, is going the way of gluten free where it's being self diagnosed to get people around certain issues they don't want to deal with. So am I right? You're, because the you that term neuro, neurodivergence seems to be tossed around by a lot of people that didn't do any research on it, haven't gone to the doctor and they're hurting the real people who are dealing with neurodivergency, which I don't even know what that is. I, I, I honestly, like I know the word.
Nathan McIntosh
It could be a lot of stuff. Autism is also another word I don't need to hear.
Jared Freed
Well, it's a catch all because, because I see a lot of. But also when people say that and like, listen, it's a lot of these products. I mean, I talk about this with dating apps. The dating apps were created to create a dating world that the nerds wanted, not the cool guys. Like, they didn't want to get turned down in public, so they created a red light, green light situation for dating. And look at all the women. They're unhappy with it. Well, don't blame the jocks. Blame that nerd who is like, how do I code my way out of a social interaction?
Nathan McIntosh
Yes. Yeah, I talk about that in down with Tech. Yes, yes. And I just can't, I just can't anymore. Anyways, I, I, you know, I, I, I.
Jared Freed
What are you doing? Hold on. Let's go. Happier subject. I got two questions and we're almost done because chit Chat went I listen, I knew you'd be a great guest. It's always easy at Nathan Macintosh go follow on all the social media that he hates. And go does use though I do use Down With Tech. It's out on YouTube. Here's my question. What do you do on the road? What's your road activity?
Nathan McIntosh
It depends on where I am. You mean like, what do I do?
Jared Freed
Like, you're in Pittsburgh. I was just sitting here and I'm like, I usually do a lot of work when I'm on the road. Like, I like to do podcasts. I like to do certain things on the road. Like, I like to write as much as I can, but I like to, like, make videos from food places. Do you have, like, a road thing? Like, I know a lot of people. We hang out with museums. There are people that do. Like, I've never gone to a museum in a town in my life. That's like, the last thing I would do on Earth. What do you.
Nathan McIntosh
I've done that. I've gone to museums. I try to find something in the town to see if there's something in that place to see. And if there isn't something in that place to see, I'll rent a car and see if there's things around this place to see. Like, I, I, I try to be San Francisco. I drove up through the redwood forest. I went to at this Bigfoot museum, which is hilarious.
Jared Freed
Really?
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, it's great. It's great.
Jared Freed
If anybody sitting in San Francisco just having a coffee and, like, being, like, on my phone, and you're at the Bigfoot Museum.
Nathan McIntosh
The Bigfoot Museum was awesome. Museum is so funny. It's a guy's house that he's turned into a whole museum. He's behind the counter.
Jared Freed
Can anything be called a museum?
Nathan McIntosh
Well, he has a lot of stuff in there, but yes. He, he.
Jared Freed
Stop. There's no Bigfoot.
Nathan McIntosh
Hey, hey, who knows? I, I, this guy, I don't believe there's a Bigfoot, but I do love how much this guy believes that there is. To the degree that he's a man behind a counter. He's got on an oxygen tank and he's, he, he. There's pictures of him on the wall. He's been looking for Bigfoot for 50 years. Okay. But a woman got a hobby, dude. A woman came in and there's a big Bigfoot print. And she looks at it and she goes, is this real? And he goes, yeah. Like, he was so mad.
Jared Freed
Don't do that to him. Yeah, I can say it to you. That's, like, insensitive. Yeah. Like, if I go, there's nothing there that's real. But you say it to the person who's, like, put their life into it.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes.
Jared Freed
That's like going, that's like going to the Church of Latter Day Saints. Going to like, yeah, is this real? Is God real?
Nathan McIntosh
I've been to holding up the Bible.
Jared Freed
Is this real? To the Pope?
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah. To a man that's been celibate for 60 years.
Jared Freed
I hope so.
Nathan McIntosh
Vegas. I've been to Vegas enough times that, like, I've driven around so many places. I drove up to Utah. I went to the Zion National Park. I went to the Great Grand Canyon. I went to Area 51, man.
Jared Freed
I, I doing very. You're making me feel very self conscious about my road. I'm like, I masturbate and I look at my phone. That's like, that's, that's my road. Okay, so I, I did give you a project. Did you? Yeah, I gave you a project. And I want, you know, this podcast. Nathan, you, you. We talked a little bit about podcasting at the Cellar. I consider this podcast like my incubator. This is where, like, I drum up ideas. I get to, like, be on a certain stage. I want to start a new segment. Okay. And I figured as a JCU veteran, one of my okps original key players, you were the perfect person to bring on to try this segment out. It's called Worst five. Worst, where we have. We have to give a our wor. Our definitive worst five list for all subjects. And if you want to submit your subject and worst five, anyone can write in jtrain podcast gmail.com. it's jtrain podcast gmail.com. you'll start to get this. I feel like I'm doing a bad job explaining, but today we are doing worst five male names.
Nathan McIntosh
Was it male?
Jared Freed
Okay, well, because I. I went mail without even realizing it because. Did. Are you on board with that? Is that okay?
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, sure. Sure.
Jared Freed
Yeah. Okay, so. Because I again, I want this to be so nuanced but also broad that it makes it fun because, you know, on the luxury lounge, we would complain about luxury issues. I want to extend my complaining brand to just the worst five. And this is not. This is done Emotionless. This isn't meant to, like, make people angry. It is. We're just giving our opinion. So this is the worst five male names. Now, if you have an idea for a subject we could do as well as your worst five list. You can write in jtrain podcastmail.com. okay, Nathan, do you want me to go first or do you want to go first with your. Or do we want to go name for name?
Nathan McIntosh
Well, I'll, I'll go for. I'll go first name because. Okay, it's pretty simple because it's my own the. See my name.
Jared Freed
I can't believe you and I did the same thing.
Nathan McIntosh
Oh, that's really funny.
Jared Freed
First on my list.
Nathan McIntosh
But Jared, let me tell you the part because Only one, Only a. Okay, so my full name is Nathaniel, which I like. I go by Nathan, which I love but so many people here call me Nate and Nate is disgusting to me. Nate is, Nate is a 10 year old boy, he's in a tree but all of his hands are covered in gum and he has like a, a slingshot and his loose fitting jeans. I hate Nate.
Jared Freed
You're hitting a theme that I had with my worst five male names list is that if you're stuck in a nickname that really brings down the name because I agree. Nate, not a great name. One syllable. It's stupid, it's offensive. Nathaniel, you're from like Nathaniel, what are you a pioneer? Like what era is it that doesn't fit. 20, 25. Nathan Works is just a mouthful. It's not on my top on my worst five list, but it ain't on my top five. Nathan.
Nathan McIntosh
I, I love Nathan personally, but Nate and everybody in America likes to call me Nate because I guess nobody has any time here. You literally say somebody's to use. Somebody go, what's your name? I'll go Nathan. They go Nate. I'm like, no, Nate is a man. Nate is again a small child who's wandered from home and, and he's fishing by a creek. He, Nate is, Nate's disgusting.
Jared Freed
No, I, I okay. My number one was Jared. That's so funny.
Nathan McIntosh
I love this Jared. Why do you hate Jared?
Jared Freed
There's, there's one reason. Well that's the thing. I get put face to face with the worst humorist in the country whenever. Because if the quicker someone brings up Subway Jared, the more I think less of them. Ok, you're so, so. Hey, my name's Jared. Subway Jared. If you say in the first sentence, good to meet you, gotta go. Pleasure good. You know, good luck with everything. It is such a letdown of the human race every time someone brings up Subway Jared and then thinks that that's a punchline setup joke. Like they think that just say the worst human. They always think it's like that's a joke.
Nathan McIntosh
Uh huh.
Jared Freed
Subway Jared or went to Jared. I go, do you just like is this like a Rorschach test for idiots people?
Nathan McIntosh
I don't know if people, if enough people have really, really, really looked into Jared from Subway's crimes.
Jared Freed
They're the worst.
Nathan McIntosh
Real bad. Like what everybody thinks he did is bad, very bad. But then when you look into what he really bad on a level that's like lock that like obviously no, they keep on there.
Jared Freed
I've never Looked it up. I know he's done bad. I can't believe out of, like, plucked from obscurity, he ends up being a horrific, evil monster. Like, that's the crazy part to me is like, oh, you. You lost a bunch of weight. And look at that. He's our new spokesman. It gets huge. And then, like, what? You know, the other problem with Jared is it's not really strong to pronounce. When I say, yeah, my name's Jared Jerd. Jerry is always getting, like, I can't say it strong. And if I say it strong, I sound like a old Jewish woman. Jared. Like, it's not sayable.
Nathan McIntosh
Jared also sounds a little bit like. The more I hear it right now, it sounds like it's like Nathan. Like, it's a shorter version of a larger name. Like Jared Athol.
Jared Freed
Yeah. Should be something else. Yes.
Nathan McIntosh
Jared.
Jared Freed
I also once had a woman. I've had people say this to me. They go. I'm like, I'm Jared. They're like, oh, that's the most Jewish thing ever. And I'm like, it's not Old Testament. Like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Nathan McIntosh
That's also a horrific way to announce, like, be introduced to somebody. Oh, God. I actually had that with a lady one time in. I went to visit a friend in London, and he had a roommate at the time from Turkey. And she goes, what's your name? I go, nathan. She goes, ugh. And then she goes, what's your last name? I go, macintosh. She goes, oh. Like, she was so. She was so hurt by my name.
Jared Freed
It's crazy.
Nathan McIntosh
Really made me laugh.
Jared Freed
That's especially because it's. It's not like your Net. Your name is snot.
Nathan McIntosh
No, but it was.
Jared Freed
Yeah. It's a weird way to react to a name.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes. Her name. She asked me, like, what my name meant, and I'm like, no, nothing, you know? And she's. I was like, what are your name. What's your name? Something like looking at the moon or something?
Jared Freed
No, people with names that mean something. If I could put that on this list, I would. That those people are horrific because they have to tell you the meaning. They think that they're some sort of premonition, that they're, like, here for a reason. No, I hate those people. Okay, give me your second worst name.
Nathan McIntosh
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with. Yeah. Blake.
Jared Freed
Wow.
Nathan McIntosh
Blake is also in. In the. In the thing of, like, Blake. Also, Blake hangs out with Nate. They're both at the river Fishing with, like a. Just a stick and rope. They both are covered in gum. Their. Their jeans are too big and the pockets are full of garbage.
Jared Freed
Nate and horrific male name. It's not on my list, but I agree with you. And its female counterpart is so much better. You ever meet a Blakely? Like, Blake is the coolest woman ever. Plays video games. Really? Yeah. I think of a Blakely as being like, out of a sitcom where she's the coolest person. Yes. When I think a male Blake, you're like, if you don't have a surfboard underneath your arm.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
Why are you named Blake?
Nathan McIntosh
Blake to me again, he hangs up by the river. Or he is. Yeah, he's six, three. He has a big chest. He's got that. That little, like, white. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jared Freed
Necklace.
Nathan McIntosh
Blakely sounds like a woman who has four dads and they're all owners of Fortune 500 companies.
Jared Freed
Blakely. And she's into poetry and can't stand her four dads, but is very interesting and lives in a house that has a fire pole that they go down. It's like a cool house. Like she's out of a Disney movie.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, like a Hallmark Hallmark movie where a lady who, you know, she's supposed to take over the family business but doesn't want to slums, and then she finds a homeless guy who love it. Loves garbage man. Yeah, he's a garbage man.
Jared Freed
My second name. Worst name. Ready? Julian.
Nathan McIntosh
Okay. Yeah. Julian.
Jared Freed
Never cared for that name. I think Julie, there's nowhere to go with it. There's no. Do you become Julie Julian to me. Unless you play the violin professionally, I don't know what you do with that name. There's never been, like, a CEO who's Julian. Maybe there someone could send it to me. I wouldn't respect that CEO. Hey, this is my dad, Julian. I just. It's not a great name.
Nathan McIntosh
He does sound like a guy who. Who steals. Julian. But like, high level stealing. Like.
Jared Freed
Yes. Paintings.
Nathan McIntosh
Paintings. Or if he is a banker, he's siphoning funds.
Jared Freed
Right. Julian did it. Yeah, Julian. And yeah, they're Swedish. I just don't. I'm out on Julian.
Nathan McIntosh
All right, what's your name? Julian. I'm gonna go with. And you know what's dumb? I like. I kind of like the name Samuel. For whatever reason, Sam, I don't know what it is. I'm not a big fan.
Jared Freed
So you don't like the shortened one syllable name?
Nathan McIntosh
If it once it can get as short as it can go again, it makes me feel like you should be at a creek bed looking for salamanders. There's something about it that takes away all adult taxpayer rights from you.
Jared Freed
Let me give you my third one. My. My least favorite names. My. The worst five. Vinnie. Yeah, Vinnie. You're either Vinnie, like, you know, you're locked into this gabagoo life, or you're Vincent, which is like the bouncer at a club, so it's Vinnie or Vincent. Or you're Vin, which is like, you.
Nathan McIntosh
Can'T be a Vin.
Jared Freed
You can't just be a Vin. It's a horrible name.
Nathan McIntosh
There's one Vin. Like, there's one Hitler. We did it. You can't. You know what I mean? No, but you can't name your kid. Once. Once we had a Vin Diesel who goes, you know, he lives his life a quarter mile at a time. You can't name your kid. You can't go by Vin.
Jared Freed
Well, then you go Vinnie. You looked at your kid, you were like, he's gonna be Vinnie out of the womb. The kid is a.
Nathan McIntosh
If he makes any kind of little hand gesture like that when he comes out, you better have to change your whole. Your. Your whole thought on what his name is.
Jared Freed
What's your fourth worst name?
Nathan McIntosh
Fourth? Oh, man. If we're going male names, I'm going to go, oh, and this one. This one, whatever. I'm going to go with George.
Jared Freed
George. See, I like a kid named George. Like, I think a child named George is curious. Lives with wonder. Whimsical, but male adult George, Accountant, board. Can't get out of his own way.
Nathan McIntosh
No Applebee's. He's an Applebee's Polo. Big, big giant. Those big blue drinks.
Jared Freed
Yeah. So much a fun night for him.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah.
Jared Freed
George is like, hey, margaritas at Chili's. Big Wednesday. And you're like, yeah, cool. George.
Nathan McIntosh
George. And I mean, I have. I also have personal things with it, but. But, yeah, George. It's just like, I don't know.
Jared Freed
Okay, here's. Here's mine. And I think it goes into the George group. Randy.
Nathan McIntosh
Well, Randy is. Yeah, Randy's not. Randy's also a thing you can be. Says Austin Powers, which is not.
Jared Freed
And. And also, you'd have to deal with a lifetime of. Are you Randy? Like, whoever knows that? Oh, you see Austin Powers, right? And you're like, I've seen it. I know. But then you're also a Randall. Randall is strict, boring, no fun, no personality.
Nathan McIntosh
I like Randall. I think you might be right. I like the law. I like the longest. You really do your Name.
Jared Freed
What's your last one?
Nathan McIntosh
Look, I'm going to throw you a curveball because it's not a male's name. It's just, Look, I'm really throwing you a curveball. But it goes with names, dogs with human names. I, I, I, I, I, I just can't. When somebody names their dog, like a dog, Bruce or Doug or this is Chris the dog. It's name your dog. Peppermint or microwave or something fun.
Jared Freed
You and I are on the same page. I made a video about this because it happened to me in the West Village. The richer the area, the more human they go with the name.
Nathan McIntosh
Mm.
Jared Freed
So I literally was in a coffee shop and heard someone go, christopher, Christopher. And I turned, thinking, like I was gonna watch, like, a fight between a boyfriend and girlfriend. And no, it was Christopher the dog, who apparently has a mortgage. You know that a dog.
Nathan McIntosh
A human name on a dog. You've taken all the fun out of everything. That is just pure shit. That is.
Jared Freed
If you have kids, the kids are gonna go, hey, what's your dog's name?
Nathan McIntosh
Christopher.
Jared Freed
Like the kids. What fun can they have?
Nathan McIntosh
And now my kids, here's my kid Vin. I got, I got Randall, and then I have Christopher the dog.
Jared Freed
My last name for worst name is Michael, I think. Michael, bad name. You either a Mike, and that's too short, which we know you don't like, or you're Mikey. Mikey. I just feel like you're. Everyone thinks you're dumb.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, Michael is kind of a rough one. There's also. There's two, you know, Michael Myers. There's a whole. There's already a murderer. For years now, we're going on like.
Jared Freed
Michael Myers is a fake character.
Nathan McIntosh
Like Mike. My Mike Myers, a real man. Michael.
Jared Freed
Michael Myers is fake.
Nathan McIntosh
100. But this character has lived for now almost 50 years.
Jared Freed
It is crazy. Well, here's the bad part about Michael. What you just explained is the crazy part about the name Michael is that a Mike and a Michael and a Mikey are three totally different people. Because you said Mike Myers. And I was like, oh, former SNL cast member Mike Myers. And then you said Michael Myers. And I was like, the murderer with the mask from the movies. And it's like, I've never thought of them of having the same name.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah. One guy, you learned it and became a star. The other guy kept it long, murdered his sister. Well, a lot.
Jared Freed
Is that crazy that you never. I don't see Mike Myers and think of the killer at all. That's it's. To me, the name Michael, it's like one house where the rooms are nothing alike.
Nathan McIntosh
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know what you mean. But, yeah, when I hear Michael, I instantly go to Michael Myers. And it's just also Michael. Michael seems like a guy who always has, like, a. A thing going on. Seems like a. Like a scheme or some kind of, like, he wants to go, like, shoot a BB gun at cars or something.
Jared Freed
Why do all of your images go straight to, like, what's the movie like, the Stephen King. You go straight to Stephen King 80s movie child.
Nathan McIntosh
I don't know. I don't know.
Jared Freed
All of your thoughts of, like, images are Stand by Me.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes. Yeah.
Jared Freed
Of like Little Rascals. Like, everything to you is Little Rascals.
Nathan McIntosh
Yes. I. But it doesn't. It just. When you hear Michael, did that just sound like a guy?
Jared Freed
No, but I'm just saying there's a theme with you where. So everyone's version, the worst version, is a little Rascal character that runs off to the creek and starts shooting.
Nathan McIntosh
Well, this is everybody's worst version. I mean, your worst version of you is probably when you're a teenager and that some of these names just remind me of, like, a little piece of shit. Like, like. Like a little. A little. But then again, Nate does remind me of, like, a shoeless, sick, lost child without a shirt. I hate Nate.
Jared Freed
Well, we're here with Nathan. Nathan McIntosh. Everyone go follow Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. He's got the special down with Tech. It's out right now. It is in the link, is in the description of this episode. Mr. McIntosh, thank you so much for indulging me with my new segment.
Nathan McIntosh
Thanks for having me, buddy. This is always a fun time. And again, I stand by what I said about neurodivergence.
Jared Freed
Back next week, boom.
The JTrain Podcast: "Top 5 Worst Names with Nathan Macintosh" – Detailed Summary
Release Date: June 18, 2025
In this engaging episode of The JTrain Podcast, host Jared Freid welcomes comedian and OKP (Original Key Player) Nathan McIntosh for a lively discussion filled with humor, candid complaints, and a brand-new segment titled "Worst Five." The episode delves into various topics, ranging from everyday annoyances to broader societal concerns, all delivered with the duo's signature comedic flair.
Jared starts the episode with his characteristic upbeat demeanor, introducing Nathan McIntosh and highlighting his latest special available on YouTube. He also unveils the new "Worst Five" segment, inviting listeners to submit topics and lists of things they find particularly dreadful.
The conversation kicks off with Nathan expressing his frustrations about train operations, specifically criticizing train drivers who wave to passengers despite the train not stopping for them.
Nathan McIntosh (02:56): "It's so stupid. It has nothing to do with anything and it's not even worth talking about."
Jared and Nathan humorously dissect the etiquette (or lack thereof) of train personnel, emphasizing the minor yet relatable irritations of daily commutes. This segues into a respectful discussion about garbage workers, acknowledging their often-overlooked essential role in maintaining urban living.
Nathan McIntosh (05:50): "I fully respect garbage men now. They keep our cities running smoothly, and without them, things would fall apart."
Jared shares his recent move to Delray Beach, Florida, contrasting it with his experiences in New York City. The duo discusses perceptions of safety, influenced by sensational news stories versus the actual day-to-day reality of urban life.
Jared Freed (10:32): "The news is scary. Sometimes you go, why would somebody pick up two children and throw them at a bus?"
Nathan echoes these sentiments, reflecting on how distant and rare some of these incidents are, despite their frequent portrayal in media.
Jared takes a moment to promote Nathan's comedy special, "Down with Tech," encouraging listeners to watch and support his work. The conversation naturally transitions into concerns about Artificial Intelligence (AI).
Nathan McIntosh (13:07): "The people that made AI are scared of AI, and there's a lot of uncertainty about how it's going to affect jobs and society."
They discuss the potential for AI to render 20% of the job market obsolete, highlighting fears about government inaction and the race among nations to dominate AI technology.
Shifting gears, Jared and Nathan vent about the inefficiencies and frustrations of the airplane boarding process. They propose humorous yet pointed solutions, such as strict gate agents enforcing row-by-row boarding orders to expedite the process.
Jared Freed (21:05): "We need more rules and stricter regulations when boarding planes to make it efficient."
Their debate underscores common travel woes, resonating with many listeners who share similar grievances.
The highlight of the episode is the introduction of the "Worst Five" segment, where Jared and Nathan each present their top five least favorite male names. This segment is rich with humor, personal anecdotes, and playful ribbing of various names.
Jared Freed on "Jared" (36:03): "Subway Jared is the worst human being alive. It's such a letdown every time someone brings up Subway Jared as a joke setup."
Nathan McIntosh on "Nate" (34:50): "Nate is disgusting to me. Nate is a 10-year-old boy with his hands covered in gum, stuck in a tree with a slingshot."
The names discussed include Jared, Nathan, Blake, Julian, and Vinnie, each accompanied by creative and humorous explanations for their undesirability. The segment not only entertains but also invites listeners to reflect on the quirks and connotations associated with different names.
As the episode wraps up, Jared reiterates the fun and importance of the new "Worst Five" segment, encouraging listeners to participate by submitting their own lists and topics. Nathan expresses his appreciation for the conversation and stands by his earlier comments about sensitive topics like neurodivergence, prompting a brief but meaningful exchange about the misuse of such terms.
Nathan McIntosh (50:16): "I'm just gonna say this sentence so we can move on. If I never again hear the word neurodivergent on this plane or any other, I swear..."
Relatability of Daily Frustrations: The episode underscores how common daily annoyances, like public transport etiquette and boarding airplanes, can be a source of humor and camaraderie.
Respect for Essential Workers: There's a heartfelt recognition of the hard work and often underappreciated roles of garbage workers, highlighting societal dependencies.
AI as a Double-Edged Sword: The discussion on AI reflects widespread concerns about technological advancements outpacing societal and governmental preparedness, potentially leading to significant job displacement.
Humorous Critique of Naming Conventions: The "Worst Five" segment offers a lighthearted yet sharp critique of certain male names, blending personal preferences with broader cultural observations.
Sensitive Topics Treated with Caution: While primarily comedic, the podcast doesn't shy away from controversial topics, handling them with a mix of humor and seriousness.
Notable Quotes:
Nathan McIntosh (02:56): "It's so stupid. It has nothing to do with anything and it's not even worth talking about."
Nathan McIntosh (05:50): "I fully respect garbage men now. They keep our cities running smoothly, and without them, things would fall apart."
Jared Freed (10:32): "The news is scary. Sometimes you go, why would somebody pick up two children and throw them at a bus?"
Nathan McIntosh (13:07): "The people that made AI are scared of AI, and there's a lot of uncertainty about how it's going to affect jobs and society."
Jared Freed (21:05): "We need more rules and stricter regulations when boarding planes to make it efficient."
Jared Freed on "Jared" (36:03): "Subway Jared is the worst human being alive. It's such a letdown every time someone brings up Subway Jared as a joke setup."
Nathan McIntosh on "Nate" (34:50): "Nate is disgusting to me. Nate is a 10-year-old boy with his hands covered in gum, stuck in a tree with a slingshot."
Conclusion
This episode of The JTrain Podcast balances humor with insightful commentary on societal issues, all while fostering an engaging dialogue between Jared Freid and Nathan McIntosh. The introduction of the "Worst Five" segment adds a fresh and interactive element, promising more entertaining discussions in future episodes. Whether you're tuning in for laughs, relatable frustrations, or thoughtful insights, this episode delivers a well-rounded podcast experience.