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Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them, too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week, too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a chit Chat Wednesday, too. Hello, and welcome to the J Train podcast. Is Jay Train Jared Freed coming to you live from Delray Beach, Florida? That's right, every Wednesday is a Chit chat Wednesday where I sit with a comedian, a friend, an expert. Today I have all three. They're a comedian, they're a friend, and they are an expert in not knowing how to use Riverside. I can't believe we just had that many issues with the sound. Eric Newman, thank you for coming on the show.
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B
Well, J, Trey, thanks for having me. And also, if you really were a friend, you would expect this from me. I will say that.
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A
Well, I. I just can't believe I was literally telling you, hit the audio button. And then you were like, I. I couldn't believe I needed to hold your hand as much as I just needed to hold your hand to do this audio.
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B
You know what? You're making me a little sad because I physically can't hold your hand right now. Man, I'm sad.
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A
No hand holding. How are you? You have a special that's coming out July 13th. Everyone should go check it out. I haven't been able to because it's not out. We're taping this before so that it can come out right around July 13th. If I'm looking at the calendar, this will be out on the 14th, so the next day you can go watch it. It's called call your mom. You said it's like a documentary. Explain it.
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B
Yeah, so basically it's like I. I call my mom from stage a lot. So, like, I. I compiled, like, all the footage from around the country, like, together, and sort of made it into, like. It took like, a year and a half. It was kind of like. Because it's weird, like, when you're editing, like, from, like a. Like. Like when you have the whole skeleton and then you're editing, you just have to make choices with sound and angles or whatever. With this, I really had to, like, edit. It was like a puzzle. Like, I just threw it up in the air and tried to put pieces together. And, like. So it's basically I call my mom on stage, and then I made, like, a compilation of all that footage and kind of created, like, a story arc through it. So it's like. It's like a special slash documentary because it goes kind of into, like, a deeper relationship with my mom. And so, yeah, it's. It's. We tried something new that's.
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A
I mean, you gotta do something different. That sounds fun. It's. I mean, if I called my mom from on stage, it would be a lot of, like, what? Where? It'll be like, a lot of questions that wouldn't help move story along. How do you make sure that it doesn't go that way?
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B
I think it's just like, we have had some fails for sure, but I think, like, my mom. So I. Basically the process was I was just like, my mom, like, really wants to talk to me wherever I travel all the time. I'm sure you can relate to this some degree. So. So I would, like, call her from stage. It started with me just kind of like, checking in with her, and I kind of made it fun with the audience and interacted and stuff. And then. So I would just tell her I'd be like, I'll be in San Francisco. Like, I'd be like, at Cubs or whatever. And I'd be like. And she's like, oh, God, now I have to research about San Francisco. So she would, like, research some stuff and talk about it. And then I would, like, put her and the audience kind of in comfortable positions, like, asking like.
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A
Like.
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B
Like really, like, awkward questions or whatever. And how I would have my mom react. I would kind of like, try to trap her into, like, a racial thing. And then she would, like, kind of dig her way out of it. It'd be fun.
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A
You do this to your mom? I board.
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B
She. She encourages it. She's like, board, you know?
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A
Well, it's funny because you're like, I. I gotta tell you, gotta. I could relate to, like, your mom wants to know where you're going and what's going on. But I. I feel like if I got there within, like, an hour, I would have, like, seven calls from my mom. Like, how is she able to wait until you're on stage at night to, like, hear from you? Like, mine wouldn't be able to wait.
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B
That's hilarious. Yeah. No, I still usually have missed calls from her before I get up there. But the frustrating part is, like, when I try to call her, I'm like, I'm gonna call my mom. And then she doesn up or something. I'm like, a lot of times, dude, I'll like, realize because she works at Bloomingdale, she's like, in customer service at Bloomingdale's 59th Street 1. So a lot of times I won't realize she's at work, and she'll, like, be on the phone with me for five minutes talking about, like, a couple in the front rows, like, dating scenario, and basically, like, will be very vocal about the fact that the guy's taking too long to propose or whatever. Like some. Some poor front row couple who did not know this was gonna happen to them.
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A
And then they're like, we've been together two years. And your mom's like, when are you moving in? Like, looking at each other like, what the hell?
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B
And also. And also, Jared, I'm like, I'm deflecting, right? Because it takes the pressure off me for a moment, right? I get to, like, put this on this poor, poor victim, you know, couple that are victims to the scenario, and I don't have to hear about it for a minute. But then, like, she'll talk about it for a minute or two. We'll get dive deep into their relationship, and then she'll be like, yes, hi, can I help you? Like, she's been at work the whole time.
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A
I'm like, what was the first time that made you call her on stage?
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B
I think she called me one time, and I think I was probably bombing and was like, oh, let me pick up my mom's call. You know when you're just having, like, a rough one and you're like, I need to try. I mean, that's how we got good at crowd work, right? It's like, it's. Crowd work is kind of like, I love it, but it's like, it's like crowd work has been a thing that's been able to get you out of really tough situations, right? It's like, it's a skill to have in your back pocket. So I feel like I was probably at this point, either I was really feeling it, or I was bombing so hard that my mom started calling and I was like, mommy sick, save me.
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B
And you had. I've seen you so many times. Like, you have so many, like, lot, like, reset lines. And sometimes I'm just like, that was brilliant. Because, like, I. I, as a comic, I, like, just appreciate what you're doing. And I'm like. I'm like, that was so brilliant. But you're right. It almost, like, it almost divides the set into, like, quarters. Like, like, for a sports analogy, it's like, you're like, you have, like, a bad hat, like, end of the first quarter, and you're like, all right, we're gonna. We're gonna have a timeout now. We're gonna kind of come together again. The crowd was almost those, like, commercial breaks where sometimes if you're, you know, where you're like, okay, I can. I can reset here. We have, like, new energy going in, right?
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A
You can stop the other team's momentum. And the other team being the crowd. Yeah, they're. They're having momentum Beating the crap out of you with their zero laughs. So you did it over the course of a year and a half. I mean, like, so every show, are you calling your mom? Was it like, did it get to the point where you're like, like, how, how many different interactions do you have in the special?
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B
I have probably, like, I'd say probably when I was like, I'm not really touring as much as I was right now, but I would say probably for the three, four years that I was like, on the road all the time. I'd say like 90% of the time, somewhere in the, like, 35 to 50 minute mark of the set, I would call my mom for, like, five minutes. So I probably had a total. I'm. I'm just totally guessing here, but I probably had, had almost an hour, if not more of footage with her. And then we had to kind of make the, the decisions of just, like, killing some of the minutes off that either didn't, like, either weren't funny enough, interesting enough, rep. Too repetitive, or, like, didn't. Didn't serve the purpose of the, of the through line of the special, you
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know, and the through line is you getting to know her better or like,
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B
the through line is like, so there's three elements. So I had, so I had a first, like, version of it. And then like, actually, Ray Romano and Judd Apatow were two people who were really instrumental in sort of like, the creative growth of it because they watched it and were like, Judd, Ray was incredibly supportive and gave me, like, a thesis on it and told me, oh, this is great, but, like, work on this little part or, like, add this, we could have a little more. And then Judd was like, you need characters to change. It was like such a Apatow way of looking at it, which is just like, from a story arc. You need your, your character needs to grow, her character needs to grow. So it's like, a lot of it is like, and I feel like sort of like mimics, like, sort of what? What? I, I know a lot about you and your relationship with dating and your parents in the sense that, like, they really want, you know, my mom really wants me to settle down. She's really frustrated with it. I think she's almost gotten to the point where she kind of has given up, which is a nice place to be. It feels really good. But, but, but. So, yeah, I don't actually remember what your original question was, because I fucking go off on an arc, but I have.
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A
I, I. What was the. So the through line? What did the through line become. That was my original.
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B
Oh. The through line is basically like a kind of. We really go deeply sort of into how close we are, how, what our bond is, and sort of like her displeasure with A, my career, B, my love life. Or you could flip those in whatever order. I think she would probably say love life first, career second. But. But, you know, it's basically sort of just like how I push back very hard on this stance of like, I, I can be alone, I don't have to get married or whatever. And then sort of through it, I change a little bit in, in the way I see the world. And she changes and comes to a place of acceptance in my life. And so like, we're kind of growing together in this journey. And it's only a half hour, a little less than a half hour, but it's like essentially like a half hour special or short form documentary. But I think we do a good job. I'm proud of where, where it is, you know.
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A
Well, it's funny because the, you know, calling your mom from the road is like, it doesn't do anything. Like, you know, if your plane crashed, you're dead. You don't call. Like, calling. And she would have known without your call. You know, like, the call doesn't mean the play didn't crash. She would have found out. Or that, you know, I guess there's an element of like, you know, you got taken by the Uber driver or whatever. But I. The call doesn't do anything. And it's funny, like, you being in a relationship.
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Yeah.
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Is like a weird, like, nothing. Like, But I do understand where, like, my mom, she's like, happy I'm in a relationship because someone else is worrying about me and. Which is a crazy perspective because she's like, okay, I got someone else has eyes on him. Is like the reason my mom wants me in a relationship but never pushed for it. Like, she never. But I. But when it came down to it, it did feel like, good. Someone else. You're someone else's burden. Which is not what someone wants to date. You know, Like, I. Which is like, their perspective on why they want us in a relationship is like, the last thing someone would want to get into. They're like, I don't want to, like, have. I don't need a kid.
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B
Right, right. Well, that's why. But, and, and also for the relationship, like, to thrive. Like, I think women generally sense how important it is to get in with your mother and vice versa, because they really are a team. Like, like, like they're a team together. Right.
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Well, that's, that's what she's trying to make happen. Like, I. I don't think, like, I'm not dating someone to be a team with their family. Right, right. You know, like, that would be like, I don't want to. Like, I had to be like, oh, finally. Okay, you. Well, that, that happens sometimes, you know? You know, I guess we're saying it from a nurturing standpoint, but from like, you know, in, in, in kind of like an old school way where a financial way that, you know, you do go to some weddings where it's like, finally, I don't have to take care of her anymore. I got this new guy and he can pay for her to go to Bloomingdale's. And you're like. Like, that's a version of it that I'm not aiming for either at all.
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B
Yeah.
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A
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B
By the way, the, the money part of. I read your book. Love it, by the way. Dude, so man, so smart. And I, I have to shout out a couple specific points that I love the most. I, I just, you just reminded me of it. The money aspect where you give that. Dedicate that paragraph to like the differences with how like people in relationships perceive money and how it can a breaking point for people or you can get through it or whatever. I thought was super. Like, I didn't realize until I got a little older how important that aspect of things was. Like just two people coming in with two different financial experiences. Growing up, you know, as an adult,
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A
I mean, like, to me, like, I look at everything even, you know, like comedy. Like comedy relationships through some sort of prison of prism of money. And I think most people do that, you know, like.
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B
Yeah, yeah. And I love the, the, the ending line, which was like two, two pages before the book ends, where you go and, and for God's sakes, let someone you dated leave an airport on its own. On his own, or whatever the line was.
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A
Thank you.
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B
I also love it because I go like sometimes like uncomfortably deeply personal. And I've been, I've gotten pushback on them before where people are just like, okay, we don't need to know all that or whatever. And, and I've come to you in the. Because I look at you as like the social media, like guru with this shit. Like, I've always.
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I wish I was better at it.
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B
No, dude, dude, I've always, I've always, you know, I've come to you throughout the years and been like, oh, Jared, I'm in trouble with a woman again for something I said in a podcast. And you're like, and I tell you what it is. And you're like, yeah, that was probably too much or whatever. But I, I really. What I loved about the book is you went so personal, like, and you still were managed to be like, really respectful. Like, I remember we were talking outside the Cellar two weeks ago or whenever it was when you were in New York, and you were like, yeah, I feel like I'm, like, gonna be talking about some more personal stuff. I hope, like, they take it okay or whatever. And I remember you told me the scenarios, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm such a piece of shit. The fact that he's worrying about this with the stuff that I've done in the past, like, it made me feel like a worse person. But I was also, like, admired you at the same time. So I was like, yeah, I appreciate it.
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A
Yeah, I mean, like, that was the only way to, you know, dating has been done. And, like, you know, what's my advice to someone dating? Like, I don't know, be vulnerable, be personable, and, you know, dump someone if you don't like them anymore. Like, what. How is that any different from anyone else than to give my own experience? So I appreciate it. Yeah, you gotta go. I mean, you gotta go personal without, like, you know, the. The other way to go personal is to, like, trash someone. And it's like, that's not really. That's not what I was looking to do.
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B
Well, I did, and you were with me through, like. Remember I used to talk to you after I went through that horrible breakup?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And. And I would, like, tell you about it, and you knew who the person was or whatever. So I was so, like, my instincts, my. My instinct, my heartbroken instincts were, oh, her, let me trash her or whatever. But when I. When I did, I did a special Almost Engaged, which was basically about the breakup and, like, post breakup, and I really, really, really took the time to, I think, like, comb through and make sure that all of it was my perspective and my experience through that heartbreak without being like, what a. What a. You know, whatever. And like, I now, looking back on it, I watched it recently again for the first time in like a year and a half, and I was like, okay, like, there's maybe one or two lines that were a little diggy, but, like, everything else was very, like, my experience from it. So, you know, you're right.
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It's the thing you can say. It's. It's like, I do believe with comedy, like, when you're. If you're gonna be roasting, it's like, you gotta be smarter. You gotta be funnier than you are mean. And if it's. If. If the premise of the joke is fuck this person, it's gotta be really funny for us all to go for even the person to Go, ah, yeah, me in that instance too. You know, like, that's good joke. Good joke, right? Like, ah. In that, in that specific way, you know, you did it. You nailed it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So you, you mentioned something with the special. I want to, I want to ask you about this because I think you said that Apatow, Judd Apatow and Ray Romano got their hands on this in some way.
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B
Yeah, they were helpful. Very helpful.
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You met them through the seller.
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B
Through the seller.
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A
So how. I'm sure there's someone out there and. And I guess this is. How do you go about talking to someone you know that is that big time and respectfully and without being a pain in the ass. I'm sure, you know, there's a lot of people, they talk about networking. This is to me, you networked your way into notes from two, like, respected artists, comedians. So like, you know, because Ray Romano, you and I know like the funniest. There's nobody funniest guy like you and I. And, And I know everyone knows that, but like, maybe they don't know in the way we know. As far as his standup is concerned, it is like a joy to watch.
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B
And lights out, stand up.
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A
So how do you go about. Because I would, in my mind, I'd be like, I don't want to, like, bother these people.
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B
Yeah, I don't have that.
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A
You bother anybody, you're paying the ass.
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B
Did you see? I'm gonna get back to this answer real quick. But we're not on time crunch or anything, right? We're okay.
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A
No, whatever you need.
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B
Did you see my crying video in the next one?
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A
We're gonna get to that at the end. That's. That's how we're gonna finish the episode. The crying video. We will see the cry. The crying video. And if you don't know Eric for his crying video, you know him for comedy. Go follow him on Instagram. You can go watch the crying video. He is a huge Knicks fan. Congratulations. As a Knicks fan, we are going to play a game at the end of this episode based on your crying video. But. So you posted a video. It was a. And I always say judge someone by the videos they post of them crying because there's nothing. You know, a lot of influencers, they'll post a crying video. And it's like, I don't think the video. I don't think the video's crazy. It's the editing it after you've cried that I can't really imagine. So what was the video about? It. Was it Was that you were happy the Knicks won.
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B
I'll tell you what happened. So, basically, and I'm going to get back to this, it just reminded me of the sellers. So I had to. I had to talk to you about it. And I just feel, first of all, dude, I still think about how funny it was. I've repeated this to 20 people at least. I was wearing that Knicks jacket, dude. I crack up to myself sometimes, like on a weekly basis thinking about, you know, what I'm about to mention, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
I have it on video.
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B
I wear this Knicks starters jacket, right? It's like the. It's like the, you know, whatever. Like, you know, the starter logo. And the Knicks, it's a throwback or whatever. And I bring you on stage and you go, give it up for Eric Newman. It's his first day of sixth grade, dude. And just like the sixth grade was perfect. Like old third grade would have been like, yeah, but it's third grade. Like sixth grade.
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A
The jacket so new that it did look as if you were, like, really excited about your first day of school outfit. That was a sixth grade. I'm going to show everyone how cool I've gotten over the summer jacket.
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B
I got my first hand job that summer, dude.
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A
That's right. And you're like, throw on the jacket. It works.
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B
But okay, so the crying video. So here's exactly what happened. I've never actually talked about this on a pod, but everybody keeps bringing it up to me in real life. But I'll talk about it.
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A
Here you go. You got a whole game called would you cry that we're going to play at the end.
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B
I love it. So here's the exclusive story on the J Train podcast. So basically, I'm in my apartment. The Knicks win the eastern conference finals. They sweep the Cavs. Okay, I take this crime, but I started crying. And you know, you know, you know, there's this instinct, being a social media comedian person, whatever, where you're just like, you have an instinct. Your hand twitches, you feel like picking up the phone and. And recording something that's funny or whatever. So I'm crying and all of a sudden, two seconds after, it's really starting to come out, I pick up the phone. I just started, you know, with no intention of posting it or sending it to anybody. I just was like, this is a moment in my life. I'm going to keep it. And also, you know how New Yorker fan. I'm very well aware and I think a lot of hardcore Knicks fans are of how Annoying. We are as a fan base, like,
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A
I, I, I get, I don't find Knicks fans annoying, but I, I, I, I, as a sports fan, there are way more annoying fans. To me, I find I found every bit of excitement for the Knicks wonderful. I think it's the second year. I think next year, you know, I, I think what happens with a fan base is that you win that first one and everyone's like, oh, look at so many years. And my father, you know, my parents were fans, and now I'm a fan. All of those stories make sense. It's the second year where if you go far again, you can't be the same as you were the first year. It'll never be that again.
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B
Boston sports privileged thing to say.
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Yes, I've seen it. Well, this is why people are done with Boston sports fans. We had so many years.
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B
Yeah.
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That there was a certain point, especially with the Patriots, where you're like, if you got that charged up, you're really kind of not acknowledging how much success you've had.
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B
You know what? I really honestly think, because we already have people talking about, well, can we, can we, can we repeat it? Can we Whatever. I wish the NBA would be over. Like, I truly want. I think we're wrapped up.
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A
I think we're heading into selfish. That's, you know, that's selfish of you.
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B
Of course it is. We're heading into the last season of Game of Thrones after this. Like, it's like, we've done it, man.
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A
Like, as a, as a Patriots fan, I can tell you as, Or a former Patriots fan, because my brother is a Bears coach, so I moved on a little bit. But you'll never, it, Nothing's like your first. Nothing's like, you know, no game will feel as good. I'm sorry to be the ghost of Misery Future, but, like, I'll never forget the 2001 Patriots. Like, I'll never forget that run. I'll never forget how that felt and how you do have this moment, that first time your team wins that you're like, it was destiny. If that didn't happen, if that one thing didn't, if the ball didn't bounce that way. So I get the feeling it's like, and you don't want to give up that feeling. You'll always have the memories. But I don't think you're ever going to be pushed to tears like you were.
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B
No, I don't think I will. And, and I, I, I already in my head, in my head and, and soul and heart and whatever. I already feel like I, I said to myself, the second it ended, I go, if I never get to witness another Knicks championship, I'm like, I'm like, I will. My soul is still complete. Like, there's nothing that could happen from this point on. Like, look, I'm going to want them to always win. I'm always going to root for them, whatever. And maybe when I'm 96 years old, if they still haven't won another one, I'm going to have that desperation again and that whatever. But, dude, like, I, and I hope two years from now we're not having a conversation. And I take this back. But from where I'm sitting right now, dude, part of my life, part of my soul is fulfilled in a way that can't be undone with anything that happened.
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A
Payoff for fandom. This is what you get in return, you know, when you, you get to. This is what, this is what it was all for.
- [27:53]
B
Yep, this is what it was all for. So, anyway, so I'm, I'm recording this video and, and it's the Eastern Conference finals. And I have this thought where I go, if I post this now and we don't win the finals, which I, I, I'm. No matter what they were saying about the spurs being the favorites, I was like, I don't see how, how they're heavy favorites here. It's crazy to me. Fine. But I was like, if somehow the spurs do win and prove Vegas right, and, and this doesn't happen, I'm a fucking asshole for putting this online.
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A
Right.
- [28:23]
B
So what? I did what? Not that I'm not an asshole anyway, but for a different reason. So we go up 3:1, and OG has that tip in. And in all conceivable predictions, the Knicks took the series in that moment. Right. I guess there's a point 1% chance of the spurs coming back and winning, whatever. But it just felt to me like that was it. And even if somehow we didn't go back to San Antonio and winning Game five, I just felt like we were winning the series. And I go, I'm going to fucking gamble here and I'm going to throw it online, dude. First of all, we got to give a shout out to Ricky Velez, a very troubled, mentally ill human being.
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A
You're jumping around here.
- [29:02]
B
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
- [29:04]
A
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B
So I post it and I'm like, I'm like first of all, my girlfriend. My girlfriend and I had a talk when I first made it and didn't post it. I sent it directly to her and I go, haha. What if I post this? I'm trying not to, Try not to look too forward.
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A
But
- [31:06]
B
dude, there's so much pain throughout the years with the Nakes. I've never experienced the finals, going to the finals. She made it extremely clear in that moment, like you should not post this. And she's and she's like a WASP Boston girl who, like, who like you know how the WASPS are, dude. They're like Jews are like, we're hugging each other, kissing each other, touching each other, our emotions, our feelings all the time. You know, it's like the Italians where they're very like buttoned up and very like we don't want to share. This was her like if she. That was the moment. The fact that she didn't break up with me immediately was the moment I realized how much she loved me.
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A
It's a tough watch, I think, for a girlfriend. I, I don't know if you guys have been intimate since the Video's been posted.
- [32:03]
B
We have. We have.
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A
Okay. I'm. I. I wouldn't have been. If you were like, it's been different. I would have understood it. I would have gone, yeah, I could see that from.
- [32:13]
B
I said beyond repair. You wouldn't have been shocked.
- [32:16]
A
Not shocked at all. I don't know how she sees you as a sexual partner after the video has been posted, but good for her.
- [32:24]
B
That's hilarious. But I will tell you, though, dude. So she hated it. So she was getting made fun of by co workers and the whole thing. You know, though I felt bad for her. I genuinely did feel bad. But then there was a part of me where I went like, I can't let another human being dick. I'm at the point in my life where I just. No matter how much I'm getting from whoever I'm getting it from, like, I've already fended off my mother, who I love more than anybody, like, for so many years, like, I can't let a woman come into my life and dictate how I want to operate online or how. How I want to be seen.
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A
Mistakes are done out of spite. You know, the. So you've proven. You've proven that correct by posting it in spite of your girlfriend saying not to. Here's how you know it's a mistake. You posted it well, and you just. You go, I'm not going to listen to another woman. I. My mom's been telling me what to do. I'm posting it, and now it's out there. Did you get posted on any, like, Reddit threads? Was there any, like.
- [33:26]
B
I don't know, I'm not sure, but, like, it. You know what's crazy to me, though? It's like, I didn't realize, like, some of our obvious. Naturally I walk into. So anyway, I post it. I get. I get shit from her. Ricky shares it 19 times.
- [33:39]
A
Ricky shared it so many times. It's. Every time he shares it, I laugh.
- [33:44]
B
It's sick. It's like, literally, I literally text him. I go, you are mentally. You realize you're mentally ill, right? He goes, dude, I don't care. It's the best video I've ever seen on the Internet. He's, like, going crazy. And. And so I walk into the cellar, and, dude, like, as you can imagine, like, you know, you're a seller, regular. You get it. Yeah, like, everybody I do. I walk in on Saturday night. This was like, maybe eight days after it's posted. I walk in and it's kind of died down now. People stop giving me shit. I go, hi, Estee. How are you? She goes, why are you crying on the Internet?
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A
So is that how Judd Apatow saw it?
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B
Did Apatow see it? I don't even know.
- [34:19]
A
Oh, I, I, well, I taught. I asked you a question about Judd Apatow and Ray Romano seeing your special, and suddenly we're talking about you crying on the Internet. I didn't even bring this up.
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B
Okay. I wanted to get ahead of it anyway, so, so appetite. So. Right. So the question you asked was basically like, how do you approach people of that caliber?
- [34:38]
A
How do you go up to them and say, hey, watch my stuff? Like that. You know, how many people would, what would kill to have those two watch and give an opinion on their art? Like, I, that's a huge deal.
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B
So I think, like, I think, and this is like, a big part of the special is I've learned kind of no shame from my mom. My mom kind of has no shame in all the best ways. She's very loved and whatever, but kind of just speaks her mind all the time, does not care, and she's very respectful. Whatever. I, the thing I've realized about being in this business and, and you're at a level where you've worked with all of your heroes and, and, and are at that level of, of.
- [35:15]
A
I got a few heroes to go, but I, I, I've worked.
- [35:18]
B
But, but, but you've, you've worked. Like, I've, you know, throughout. I mean, it's crazy to me what you've accomplished and who you've talked to and, and, and, and, you know, are friends with and whatever. And I think you can, you can kind of co. Sign on this no matter how, no matter what level we're at in this business. And this is something I've just more recently started to understand is, like, we're all people and, like, have the same insecurities and the same, like, you know, like, like, we, you talked about Ray Romano. Stand up, dude. I think Ray Romano's special that he filmed at the Cellar. That's great to me, like, you know, everybody talks about certain specials and whatever. This is a special that probably isn't talked about as much. And, like, on social media, it's not shared or whatever. I think it's one of the most brilliant pieces of, of art that's ever been. Like, he's a genius. Like, a little like an undeniable genius. And you talk to Ray and, you know, and before this process, I'd only known Ray and, hey, Ray, how Are you. How's everything? Whatever. Very few interactions. Just sort of nice. Hi. You get the sense that there's pretty much no ego there and just he's a guy who just wants to do well on stage. He comes in, he's looking at his notes, he wants to do well. And so once you get that general sense about people, no matter what level they're at, I think you start just realizing that they want to be treated like regular people and whatever. So obviously Apatow, who's one of the most genius, you know, writers, directors, producers and. And by the way, an underrated stand up. When I watch dude, he's funny, I think you just start getting a sense of like, they want to be treated like, like everybody else or whatever. And obviously you want to be respectful of the level they're at. Like, I'm Eric Newman and they're Ray Romano and Jed Apatow. I know where, you know, you walk into the cellar, you know, this J train. Like, everybody's kind of treated as equal, but. But everybody knows who the fucking big dogs.
- [37:15]
A
You know, the hierarchy. I get. It's a hierarchy. How do you start the conversation with them?
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B
I. So for Ray particularly, it was different for both. For Ray particularly. I saw Ray one night, one day at the Cell, one night at the Cellar, and I was like, you know what? I was in the middle of editing this or. Or I just like finished the first. I think I just finished the first version of it. And I was like, hey, Ray. And I know he's. He's the ultimate, like, family comedy guy, right? I mean, everybody else. Raymond is. Is amazing. So I was like, hey, like, I don't feel like there's. I. I need. I basically said to Ray, I was like, hey, I don't want to bother you, but. And I'm not advocating. I just want to make sure people know I'm not advocating for people to approach Ray Romano or Jed Apatow, you know, okay, I don't want to be responsible for that. But just in general, when you see someone that you admire, someone whose work you really like, you know, have watched and want to, you know, sort of be part of in whatever capacity you can, like with Ray, I was like, I feel like this is something Ray might be able to appreciate because he's the ultimate, like, family comedy guy. And I wasn't just like, I. I hate when people go up to people who are big and just go, can you give me this? Can you give me that?
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A
Right?
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B
It's like, it's like, I'm sure you get this a lot now, where you're at, like, just people who are just like, can I open for you? Can I? And I'm not advocating for that being a bad. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Like, but just like, everybody wants to be a part of somebody's success. And, And, And I think there's a way to do that in a good way, in a way not to do that. And so I've always been the. I've always been a strong, like, supporter of, like, wait for the right moment where it really feels like the right moment. Because I think instinctually, if you're someone like me who has these, like, thoughts and desires to, like, be part of, like, really cool things and, like, and have relationships with people who, whom you admire and have for a long time. I think sometimes it's about saying no to your own desires or your own impulses to. To do stuff. Like, like, you know, you got Judd Apatow who's doing a movie. Everybody, everybody in comedy or in life wants to be a part of that movie. Like, you know, well, you can't be
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A
doing something to get something. I mean, like, exactly. If you're genuinely interested in their advice on the project and you're genuinely interested, that will show through. You know, if you're. If you're asking them so that they can say, oh, I should co produce this, if you have other ulterior motives, they're gonna know. Everyone's gonna know. And everyone can feel that.
- [39:53]
B
100. And my, and my advice, my thing, really my sole purpose. And look, was there a part of me in the back of my head that wanted Apatow or Ray to produce it? A hundred percent. But my real goal, truly, like, like, through and through, was to just get advice and honest notes, honest feedback. And I tell people all the time, I go, when I'm asking you for, for feedback, please tell me the truth. Like, like, not your job to protect my feelings. If I'm coming to you and saying, I want to know, really, then maybe I'll hear shit I don't like, and maybe I'll have to talk to my therapist the next day about it, and maybe I'll fucking cry and film it again. I don't know. Like. But the point is, is, like, if I admire your, like, what you do, and I want to hear what you have to say about something I'm doing, I need to be ready for anything. And so Ray sat down, he watched it. He gave me a page full of notes that were like amazing. 90% glowingly positive and 10% like, hey, I would like fix up this or do this a little better or whatever. And I took them very seriously. And I went back and I made those edits and I sent him the next one and said, hey, at minute 2130, you want to make. These are the busiest people in the world. You want to make their lives as easy as possible while still making them feel good for helping you and being involved. So same thing with Apatow. Like Apatow, I sent him five minute version of it, which is like the first five minutes. And I felt like it was. That's all I had ready at that point. I had approached him earlier than I approached Ray and I was just like, here's five minutes of it. Like, tell me where you think it should go. Tell me what your feedback is. And he sat with me for like 10 minutes, very generously and was just like, your character needs to change. Her character needs to change. And we re. We reshot stuff. We spent. Like my editor and director and I went. Went two more days and like, got footage of me on stage and got footage to kind of like aid what his, you know, suggestions were. And we went back and we did it again. And like. And look, don't get me wrong, I'll be perfectly honest, perfectly honest here. At the end of it, I went like, hey, will you guys produce this? And they didn't want to. And fine. And, and. But that was actually, whether they produced it or not to me was less valuable than. Than them giving me the feedback that made the project go where I needed it to go and to get to a place ultimately that Roku wanted and. And were. Were in motion. So.
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A
Yeah. Well, I think we're excited to watch it. I want everyone to go check it out. It's called the call your mom special. Go check it out. Go check out Eric Newman at Eric Newman. It is out right now. Because this is going to come out the day after it is out. Call your mom. Play a game based on your famous crying video. You cried because the Knicks won a championship or because they won the game? It was the Anunoby game. So it is a video of you crying. I want to ask you, would you cry? Ready? The love of your life leaves you for another man. But they are the sixth man for the Knicks.
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B
Oh, yeah. Because I. I think I have to. You know, that's a very good question, man. I don't know if I would. I wonder if it would hurt me more or less. It's hard to. It's hard to know, like, because I'm definitely crying from the love of my life leaving me.
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A
I have.
- [43:21]
B
Or. Or not the love of my life, but at that point of my life. My life. But the Knicks add an interesting twist to it. Yeah, I'm kind of cr. I think it might hurt more. Or am I helping the team? Like, yeah, I'd probably cry more.
- [43:41]
A
The Knicks enter the Olympics as a team. They allow the world champion Knicks to enter the Olympics and they beat the USA to win gold. Do you cry?
- [43:53]
B
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because that's like, that's another level and it's an extension of. I won't cry as much as I cried initially. I don't think there's anything the Knicks could do now that could. Could. And I hope I'm wrong that. But that can combat the. The. The magnitude of that experience for me. But yes, I would cry because it's like a new exception for my team and whatever. And it's huge on a mass scale. So, yeah, I'm gonna cry.
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A
Last one. The Knicks bring you on the court at the ring ceremony and give you a championship ring for being the number one Knicks fan.
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B
I'm going to cry hysterically into James Dolan's arms.
- [44:39]
A
Eric Newman, everyone. Go follow. It is called call your mom. You're going to love the special. I'm Jared Free chitchat Wednesday. Back next week. Boom.