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Hello and welcome to the Rose Rehash. I am Jared Freed. Every episode of the Bachelor, we do a recap of what just happened. Also, you get my live stream. So enjoy the live stream and stick around for my recap of the women tell all, which is an episode I was on. So I'm gonna give you my personal account of the taping and what happened and how it all came together, as well as kind of my perspective on the show and what happened tonight that you know with the episode that you saw. So. But before we get started, the Rose Rehash is sponsored. People Hero, the folks who brought you bread you can eat on your diet are breaking out the noodles. With more protein and 60 fewer calories than other brands, you can enjoy the comfort Mac and cheese that you love. I love hero bread and I really love what they're doing as a brand. Hero bread is bread that you know and love and it just has more fiber, less calories, less carbs, and it tastes just as good as any bread you're ever going to have. 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We the audience is either looking for answers to questions they have or they want to have fun with the people they've come to love. The problem this season is the thing that we have questions about is are Mel. Mel and whether he wants to be in a serious relationship. Mel's past relationship. We want to know a little bit more about the divorce. We want to know if Mel is ready and what his concerns are, what his stresses are beyond three sentence sentences. That that's the honest truth. The women we got to know, but I don't think we got to know them enough to really like, like, you know, Debbie's story. We cared about Cheryl. They brought her up to the hot seat. We'll get to that. I don't know if we had. And again, we care about them as a group. This isn't to say we don't care about these women. We care about them. Women in their, you know, later stages of life trying to find love. I think we all sit there and go, we're team these women, but we don't know them enough individually to really go cheer for them. And then you had Nicole where we have questions about whether she's. What her aspirations are. So that's kind of going into this. It's. We want to know more about Mel. We're kind of like trying to figure this guy out if. And then beyond that, you have an audience that's kind of given up on Mel that's been like, that guy doesn't want to be with a woman above the age of 60. I will never watch him look for love. I have no interest. It's not. This is not honest. Get him off my TV there. Those people exist. I don't think they were watching up to this point. So at this point, let's serve the people you've got. And if I'm. And I'm one of those people, I'm a watcher of the show. I'm a fan. So I'm kind of sitting here wanting more Mel. I want a little Nicole. I do want fun with the ladies, but it's not going to hit me in the same way. So I get a call about going on the show, and at first it's like, hey. So I don't even think the episode had come out yet that I was on. I was on. Or maybe it did. I'm not really positive of the timeline, but at the time I'm trying to think back, did the episode. I don't even think the episode had come out yet. And I get a call being like, hey, they want you to come back on the show. They were. They're. They're thinking, either women tell all, or they're thinking finale. And they want to. They have all this great footage from the roast that can really. That'll be fun to watch. And we want you in the room, and we. You. We're gonna ask you, would your mom be interested in coming? And I'm like. And I'm at. Now I'm like, sitting there. I'm like, hey, I gotta get my mom involved. I don't want to do that to her. I kind of like, you know, because these things are stressful. Like, I want to be able to control as much as I can. And you really are. When you enter onto the Bachelor or. Or any TV that you're not the creator of, you give yourself away a little bit. You say, edit me. Take me. You know, tell me what to do. And you have to play ball. If I was to bring my mom on now, it's like, I got to make sure she's okay. Am I okay? Are we all okay? That wasn't really something I was looking to do. So I said to them, I was like, I would love to come on and talk about, know, whatever additional footage you have. I don't think my mom's going to be in, but if you're looking to do kind of another direction, I'm game. They're like, great, let's have you on the women tell all. Come on out to la. You'll be in the studio audience. We'll have a segment where we're going to show all the, you know, the. The stuff from the cutting room floor from your big date. And I'm like, this is awesome. I'm. I'm into it. I get to the studio it is taped at, you know, Warner Brothers. This is Hollywood Burbank. You know, like, this is like, you know, where Jay Leno was like, I'm a TV guy. Like, I, I, I kind of, I'm, I'm, I'm upset. I'm, I'm let down by how tv, the way the route TV has gone. I, it's feeling like I, like I, I'm starting to feel like. And I, I know I'm maybe a little young for this. I'm on the, I'm in the middle here. I'm not old enough. Where I'm like, oh my God, I Love Lucy, black and white tv. We didn't have remotes, but I'm old enough to. And then the way the TV's changing right now, it does feel like I'm the last generation who like to like, read the paper and the newspaper is going away and here comes the Internet. So our habits are changing and this kind of upsets me. And, and to go on the Bachelor and see like an old school TV taping was very exciting for me. Like, I'm from the generation where, hey, you know, you'd watch Nickelodeon and it'd be like, come on down to Orlando, Florida and see what it's like at Universal Studios. Like, to me, that was like the, the height of, of, of travel in a way, at one point in my life, you know, that would be to get, you know, like, I think back, like to get slimed would be like, you know, on Nickelodeon was like, oh, my God. I remember in elementary school, like, Double Dare came to my school and it was like, what? This is the biggest deal ever. So I am a TV guy, so I am enchanted by going to a lot. They pick me up in a big suburban. They bring me to the lot. I am, you know, I am treated as part of the show. People are very nice. I, and when I walk in, they have. And, and here's the other thing the women tell all. I have made fun of. I have made fun of the studio audience of the Bachelor, live tapings since starting this whole Bachelor thing. I do. And I've called it the Dome of the Undateables. And it's been a joke. I've had people, I've had a, I've gotten some feedback that it annoys people that I'm being mean. I don't think I'm being mean. I just think it is very funny to me that a group of people would go to a live taping of a show about dating to like, Cheer on the daters. Like, I just think that's a funny thing. And the person with time and energy, I would assume, is generally a single person. And they make signs. And, like, you know, I know that, like, the production is making the signs, but. And then I know that in la, you know, you can find studio audiences. There's like a day rate you can give. I know all that. But, you know, I don't make fun of the show in that way. I'm making fun of the show I am getting as a guy on the couch. So when I came in to tape, they have the whole group of the. The Undateables are watching the episodes to get caught up. They're basically, you know, they're like me. Like, they're seeing the show when it comes out. So to get the people in the room caught, up to two weeks from now, they show them both of the episodes that are coming. And they have all. And I'm watching all the undatables watch on, like a big screen tv. And I actually filmed them. And I had already seen the episode because they sent me a screener. And then they get to the part where Nicole looks at the screen and says, maybe I'll be the next Golden Bachelorette. And I'm. I know this is coming. And I videotape, and I think I have the video. Maybe I'll put it on J Train podcast. I'll put it on J Train Podcast Instagram stories. Once this is out, I'll have V put it up there. And the shock and awe from the dome of the Undatables to watching Nicole say that maybe she'll be the Bachelorette was so awesome to me, like, because. And that's where, you know, there's all these know it alls on the Internet. Oh, everyone in the crowd is a paid actor. Everyone's the, you know, you know, they. They don't care. They don't make the signs. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you right now, the people in the crowd, the dome of the Undateables, are fans. They are bachelor people. Because, you know, they have me backstage, they have me with, like, the craft services, and I'm eating all the food, and they're like, okay, Jared, you're gonna go sit in the crowd, and then we're gonna give you a microphone. And when they start talking about, you know, the rose, they're gonna pitch to you. Jesse Palmer's gonna say, hey, Jared, it's. You're going to have a mic and you can do whatever you want. And I'm like, holy. I'm going to be able. And like, in my mind, I'm going. I'm going to be able. On abc, they're just going to give me a mic. Like, this is nutty bananas. This is crazy. So the dome of the undatables fills up. They bring me in. There's a chair with my name on it, just says Jared. And you could see, like. And then I come out, and the crowd around me is like, oh, my God. We didn't know who Jared was. It's you. And it's all, like, bachelor super fans. Like, and you could tell they're a little bit. They're not. I wouldn't say embarrassed, but they don't. The people in the crowd don't want to admit they're suit. They would never go, I'm a super fan. They go, yeah, we like the show. We're on vacation and we're here to watch. And you're like, yeah, you like the show? Because they all knew of me. They all. In a way that I would never really admit to. Like, I wouldn't be like. I would never walk in a room, be like, yeah, all these people know who I am. No, no, no. I walked in and it was like, all the people around me, all women were like, oh, I watched, you know, your stories and. Because if you're a bachelor fan and you come across my stuff and, you know one person who is the type to go travel out to Hollywood to go watch the show or be in L. A and go, I'll go to the show. They are generally like, you know, you. You'd send them my stuff. So I sit down in this chair, and they're like, we didn't know who Jared was. Oh, my God. You know, everyone's so nice. And, you know, then they bring out the women, and they're all. They look amazing. They are dressed in, like, prom dresses. I mean, you. You see it on tv, but it's a little bit more done up than it feels on tv because in the crowd, everyone's in there, you know, street clothes. Everyone's in, like, jeans and a T shirt and dressed to, like, you know, just have a. A day. The women are dressed for the prom. Their dresses are basically like parade floats. And so then also Kathy and Susan are there, and there's a little bit of a. You know, there's a little bit. You know, it's. It's taped in two parts or it's two parts. So there's a first section and there's a second section. There's a break in between. During the break, you kind of feel the quote, unquote cast system that's here. You know, you have the people that came to watch the show, and then you have, like, Kathy and Susan and me. They're like, you guys can go backstage. There's a bathroom. There's. They have a little bit of alcohol, you know, loosen you up a little bit. Like, you know, and, you know, it was just like back in the green room. And then I, you know, I got to talk to the people putting the cruise together, which was a lot of fun. And I'm gonna be on the cruise. I'm gonna do shows on the bachelor cruise, which is like a year from, like next month. So all fun and games. Kathy and Susan were great. I got to hang with them a little bit. You know, you hear there's the gossip of all the former alumni. And, like, the thing is, as much as it's, like, fun to make fun of the show, there is a community. They. We all speak the same language. You're immediately, like, very comfortable talking bachelor's stuff in. In the dome. So that's my personal experience. And. And here's the other thing. They taped it in two parts. Part, the minute you sit in the audience, when they start the show, I'm like, sitting there and I'm like, I think I'm like, my part was in the second part. So I am in the show. Like, I am in the dome of the undatables. There's a moment where I'm just like. Because they have a warm up guy. The warm up guy comes out, and the warm up guy, he's a comedian, and he was great. He, like, he did a great job warming up the audience. And part of his job is like, I needed a cheer. I needed to act sad. I needed a clap. Because they want to get it all in the edit. They want to get, like, the crowd, like, whoo. That's why when I make fun of people's face in the crowd, I know that they've been hyped up to, like, hey, give me a lot of energy. And they're like. And you're like. And that's why it's fun to make fun of. It's like, why is that person so into this? And it's like, no, the warm up guy got them into it. So for the first half of the taping, I am just in the dome of the undatables watching the show, and they start the show by introducing the women. And, you know, Jesse is very much in charge. This is very much Jesse's show. He is the conductor. He is how this whole thing goes. And he does a fantastic job. I, I, you, you watch him kind of get, you know, he's good with the crowd, the audience, the dome. He's good with the ladies. Then they do the highlight reel of the season. And this is like the beginning of the show. And you saw this on tv, the highlight reel of the season. And you know, their concern there is to let you know, look at how much fun we had. The problem is we don't know the women enough. It's been too short a season. Mel hasn't really given us a lot. So this highlight reel was okay. But then it gets to the end and they show Diane. Diane is the woman who, you know, as far as her look on screen, she looked more what you imagine the Golden Bachelor to be. She's, she's has the graying hair. She's. And, and, but she was so fun and you for. I almost forgot she was on this show because she doesn't really have the same look as the other women. And she's like, she left kind of quickly even though we had so much, I had so much fun with her. But they show her at the end and she has like this like three minute or not three minutes. She has like a 30 second piece of the highlight reel. And I start, I'm in the crowd, I start getting a little choked up. I start being like, oh, my God, this is amazing. And it's the reason we liked season one of the Golden Bachelor. It's why, it's what this one's kind of missing. It's that, oh my God, am I crying watching the Bachelor that I, I think this is kind of miss this season's missing that you added. I remember season one with Gary. You had the woman who is the Bachelor. Super fan. I can't remember her name right now. I'm sure someone will comment it. She was like, I'm doing this for you, Lori. Like, and it was her friend Lori who had died of cancer, and they watched the Bachelor every week together. And like, I remember crying during that. Being like, I can't believe I'm fucking crying. And, and then I think, you know, this season, if you're like, what's the, the secret sauce that is kind of like, lacking. It's that. And Diane is on at the end dancing, and I am in the dome of the Undeadables. And I'm like, oh, my God. I think I'm like getting a little bit stiffly Here. And I'm like, oh, how? I mean, I've made fun of the dome of the Undateables for legitimately almost 10 years. And I am gonna be the guy on camera, and I'm like, they're gonna show me on camera crying after this woman. They come back from the highlight reel, and it's gonna be the most embarrassing thing of my life. And I'm, like, laughing now about it, but it's so funny that, like, so they do the highlight reel, and then we have. I. I'd say the. The standouts was Alexandra, who we really, again, happy to have her back. She's with the vibrator. Debbie and Nicole kind of hash it out at the taping. The lemon bar thing was way more of a moment than it was on screen. They talked for lemon. They talked that lemon bar thing out. Death in the studio. And. And. And I'm happy they didn't put it on the episode because it went long. And then the result of the lemon bar conversation was basically like, Nicole wasn't being as crazy as she sounded when she was saying that it were her lemon bars. That was it. But it was just a lot of time spent on lemon bars. Robin really showed that. She was, like, kind of like, she has this gravitas in the room. Robin really has this ability to, like, kind of, like, feel like she's the leader. Debbie was great, and we had never met because she was on the one on one when I did the group date with the roast. So with Debbie, I got to meet her, and you could tell she was like, you've made fun of me a lot. And she's like, it's very funny. She was very nice. She's like, it's funny. It's just. You've come after me, and I'm like, no, I've given you some shit. You've been great, and she has been great. And then they bring Cheryl up in the hot seat, and it kind of felt as though with Cheryl and Debbie, this was, like, a test. It did feel as though this is an audition. Let's see how much we care. Cheryl, you know, she. Her story was so wild in the beginning. I. There's a point where it's, like, too wild, where the message gets muddled, where. And her kids were there. Her son was there, and the son was very nice to me and was like, I saw you at the hotel. I didn't want to, like, bother you. And then Cheryl, she was very nice to me, but I don't know if she has the. The what we need as far as, like, the singular story that we can all relate to. Debbie, on the other hand, does Debbie had the room, like, locked in on her every word. And I think her story is just so relatable to such a wide audience. Her story, never married, no kids, but still hopeful, is a lot of a good portion of the audience. So I thought Debbie kind of like, showed why she would be a great golden bachelorette. And then they came to me and we. I'll say this. You know, I was like, I didn't really bring a lot of material, but during the break, I'm like, okay, well, I need to make fun of Mel. I was like, I need to, like, I have this line about this Audi. This studio audience is way better looking than last year. Nicole. You're right, because making fun of that, Nicole said that this season was hotter than last season. And. And then I was like, I'll just riff. And I was like, and I'll say that, like, I want to, you know, hook up with Susan and Kathy. And then over the course of the taping, I'm like, okay, vibrator. That was a big moment. Lemon bar. That was a big moment. Mel. I'm like, to tossing around ideas. What am I going to call Mel? Oh, I'll say he looks like Eddie Munster. And you know, the only people that would get that joke are women Mel doesn't want to hook up with. Like, I was like, going that direction. And then I go, during the break, one of the guy comes up to me, he goes, hey, man, I just want to say how funny you were on the roast. I was there. And I go, oh, thank you. He goes, I'm like, the. The on set psychologist. I was like, thank you. And he goes, when you called him Tommy Bahama Frankenstein, I laughed immediately. And I go, oh, my God, I forgot that line. I was like. And I was like, thinking. I'm like, has it been on camera at all? No, I'll use that. I was like, thanks, guy. I'm like, thanks, psychologist. I'll be right back. I, you know, I run off to the studio. So I was like, okay, I got the Tommy Bahama line. And I'm like debating, should I say something about the lemon bars? And then I'm like, I kind of go to one of the producers. And I was like, hey, during the break. And I'm like, I'm going to make fun of Mel. I'm going to say that I got like a lemon bar going in my pants from how hot these women are. And when I said that the producer, like, died laughing. And she was like, I don't know if that's going to make it, but that's funny. And I'm like, fine, I'll say it. If you watch on the episode, they show a woman who's like, absolutely disgusted by me and the lemon bar line. I don't know if that's her actual reaction to my joke or. And this is something networks production does. When they hear a joke that's on the line, they'll go to someone with a stink face like they did to be like, oh, you know, we acknowledge this isn't what we're all about. Even though they edited it. So it's kind of like it's. To me, it's an old school way of like, you know, that's him. That's his joke. If you like him, go with him. But that's not us. Not A, B, C, not the Bachelor. So I understood the reason for having stink face after I get shown or with my lemon bar boner joke. So then they play the outtakes. And the reason I, you know, was really happy with what happened is the footage from the roast was really fun and funny to me. I love that they showed me, like, bombing with Robin. I. I love that they show me, like, chasing around these women and trying to get like, the coaching aspect. I was like, so happy. And I'm like, well, this is great. And I'm getting six minutes on abc. This is. This is what I want. So I'm really happy with the episode. I'm happy with. And they like, they even didn't do the bloopers. They did bloopers at the taping. They didn't even do it on the. The episode that aired in favor of the stuff with the roast, which was like, I'm like, very thankful. So that's the. The golden batcher. I mean, what did we learn? You know, I mean, the one thing, the takeaway is Nicole. If I'm to get like, into like, you know, looking at this show and the players and the aspect, I think Debbie was great. I think Debbie makes. Debbie, without trying, made a bid for the Golden Bachelorette. Cheryl, without trying, made a bid but didn't do enough. For me, Nicole was an example of the most frustrating person you've ever hung out with. She speaks in PASSIVE aggressive. So it's hard to call someone out where that's just their language when. When someone says that I'm the pioneer. When you refer to yourself as a pioneer and you are not in a covered wagon heading out west with a hatchet in your hand to go find gold. You're really not having a conversation with us. So there was going to be no learning from Nicole. She was going to hold hands with everyone and act like they're best friends. They are not best friends. And then that was. And Mel we didn't get, you know, Mel was treated as the star of the show and not really asked to get deep which I don't know if it's a mistake. I think we're gonna see on the, on the finale whether we get more outta him which would be nice. And that's it. Rose, rehash if you like this episode, if you're this far in comment like subscribe. All that good stuff. This goes on the J train podcast. 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