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I'm excited to introduce our guest today, Wendy Kline, Ph.D, a recognized scholar in the history of medicine and women’s health. Wendy is the Chair in the History of Medicine at Purdue University and has earned international recognition for her groundbreaking work. She is the author of several influential books, including Exposed: The Hidden History of the Pelvic Exam and Coming Home: How Midwives Changed Birth. Wendy has also contributed to notable documentaries, such as Netflix's Sex, Explained and PBS’s The Eugenics Crusade.

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In this episode, we explore crucial topics including:

Power and Control: How medical practices have historically been shaped by power imbalances, particularly the objectification of women’s bodies.

Gendered Assumptions and Patriarchy: The influence of gendered views and patriarchal structures in shaping medical training and women’s healthcare experiences.

Autonomy and Consent: The challenges in truly obtaining consent within power imbalances.

Cultural and Societal Influence: The role of cultural norms in shaping both medical practices and women's experiences with gynecological and reproductive health.

Wendy’s insights provide a compassionate and thought-provoking perspective.

You can purchase a copy of Wendy’s books here.

Connect with Wendy Kline.

5:15 How reproductive healthcare stigma allows for abuse of power

14:06 How the history of pelvic exams reflects society’s views of women’s bodies and autonomy

16:17 Can true medical informed consent be achieved within a medical system?

19:38 Ethical challenges arising in obstetrics

23:47 The impact of birth environment on health outcomes

28:35 Defensive medicine and liability fear

32:42 Honoring the work of the past to build the future of reproductive rights

41:58 How obstetrician training impacts their approach to natural versus hospital births

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