The Musers The Podcast – Episode 5: "Fake Jerry" Summary

Release Date: July 23, 2025

Introduction

In the fifth episode of The Musers The Podcast titled "Fake Jerry," hosts George Dunham, Craig “Junior” Miller, and Gordon Keith delve into a blend of nostalgic reflections, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and exciting developments surrounding their longstanding association with the Dallas Cowboys. Recorded live from the Dallas Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, California, this episode offers listeners an intimate look at the trio's experiences and insights.

Reflections on Episode 4 and Listener Reactions (01:05 - 03:32)

The episode opens with George expressing his astonishment at the profound reactions received from their previous episode, highlighting the emotional depth that resonated with listeners.

• George Dunham (01:05): “Episode four of the Musers, the podcast. I was somewhat blown away by all of the reaction we got to it via email, via Twitter. It was a pretty powerful episode, I would call it.”

• Gordon Keith (02:21): “Men, male relationships are very. Hey, man, what's up? Nothing. What's up with you? Nothing. Meanwhile, both guys have gotten divorced, lost jobs and done everything. But to them, the summary is nothing.”

The hosts discuss the rarity of men openly sharing vulnerabilities, emphasizing the emotional connections fostered through their conversations.

History with Dallas Cowboys Training Camp (01:05 - 11:59)

George reminisces about his first experience covering the Cowboys' training camp in 1988, detailing interactions with legendary figures like Tom Landry and Roger Staubach.

• George Dunham (04:47): “The first training camp I went to for The Cowboys was 1988... We didn't know, but this is going to be the last year of the original.”

He highlights the evolution of the training camp from a modest event to a major spectacle, attributing much of this transformation to Jerry Jones.

• George Dunham (11:38): “They've basically built a temporary stadium around two practice fields in the middle of nowhere next to a hotel in Oxnard, California.”

Gordon and Craig add their own memories, illustrating the camaraderie and challenges of covering the camp over the years.

Impact of Jerry Jones on the NFL and Cowboys (08:40 - 29:33)

A significant portion of the episode centers on Jerry Jones’ pivotal role in transforming the Cowboys and influencing the broader NFL landscape.

• George Dunham (10:23): “They moved training camp to Austin. Jimmie Johnson, the coach at the time... It was part of the marketing of Tech Schramm...”

The hosts discuss how Jerry Jones elevated the Cowboys' brand, making training camp a fan-centric event that attracts thousands annually.

• Craig Miller (10:54): “Once they landed out here, they realized... that's good for the brand.”

They compare Jerry Jones to other iconic sports figures like George Steinbrenner, noting his unique ability to stay relevant despite fluctuating team success.

• Gordon Keith (20:10): “How can they still be America's team? You know what I'm saying?”

The conversation touches on Jerry Jones' business acumen and charismatic persona, which have cemented the Cowboys' status as a perennial favorite in American sports culture.

• George Dunham (26:17): “He transformed the NFL from a financial standpoint... He was the one that said, let's go talk to Fox. That sounded like an absurd idea back in the 1990s...”

The Change in Media Landscape and Owner Media Relations (09:53 - 19:14)

The hosts examine how media interactions with team owners have evolved, particularly in the era of social media and constant connectivity.

• Gordon Keith (14:49): “They would talk a lot of football and there was no, you know, the writers weren't quoting him or anything like that...”

Craig reflects on the shift from exclusive, off-the-record conversations to the immediate spread of information online.

• Craig Miller (16:03): “Social media killed all of that...”

George underscores the increased guardfulness of NFL teams regarding media interactions today, contrasting it with the more relaxed past.

• George Dunham (17:19): “They're still off the record. That exists. But I think those who... you have to be really careful...”

Craig Miller's Impersonation of Jerry Jones (31:29 - 36:40)

A highlight of the episode is Craig Miller’s portrayal of Jerry Jones, which has become a staple of the podcast and the local community.

• Gordon Keith (32:41): “Outside of Jerry, I would say in Dallas, Fort Worth, the person that has done more to paint and construct his image is you, Gordon, with your impersonation of Jerry.”

Craig shares the journey of his impersonation, detailing how it started and its impact on his career.

• Gordon Keith (33:03): “I started off with that ridiculous voice... Jerry has given me a career.”

The hosts discuss the delicate balance of parody and respect, noting that Jerry Jones himself appreciates the impersonation.

• George Dunham (35:40): “But I know not only does it play well with a listening audience and with us, but I know for a fact, at least back in the day with the Cowboys organization, I once had two scouts come up to me...”

Upcoming Projects and Hollywood Opportunities (37:12 - 44:16)

Gordon unveils an exciting development: his role in voicing Jerry Jones for a new Adult Swim animated series, Keeping Up with the Joneses.

• Gordon Keith (37:12): “Adult Swim tackles Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and latest series Keeping up with the Joneses will follow a family trying to fit in with their wealthy Dallas neighbors...”

The hosts brainstorm the potential reception of the series, speculate on Jerry’s awareness, and joke about Craig’s future recognition.

• George Dunham (41:37): “I bet somebody has told him. And he goes through...”

• Craig Miller (42:53): “So for better, for worse, that version of fake Jerry's voice has become canon.”

This segment underscores the podcast's influence and Craig’s expanding role in popular culture.

Personal Stories and Network Friendships (44:16 - 54:57)

The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes, highlighting the camaraderie among the hosts and their interactions with Hollywood personalities like Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell.

• Gordon Keith (49:12): “That sounds like an accusation. No, I mean it was one time when we were sitting...”

Craig shares his unexpected appearance at Kristen Bell’s surprise party, illustrating the unique experiences afforded by their podcasting journey.

• Craig Miller (50:03): “Well.”

The hosts reflect on their career paths, the allure of California, and the personal growth they've experienced.

• Gordon Keith (52:35): “You do fake Jerry for 30 years, then Hollywood will call you.”

Closing Remarks and Future Episodes (55:37 - 56:23)

As the episode winds down, the hosts discuss the challenges and rewards of their podcasting career, contemplating future episodes and their ongoing adventures.

• George Dunham (55:37): “See you guys next week, okay?”

They express enthusiasm for continuing their storytelling from different locations, promising more engaging content for listeners.

Notable Quotes

• George Dunham (01:05): “Episode four... was a pretty powerful episode.”

• Gordon Keith (20:10): “How can they still be America's team?”

• Craig Miller (26:17): “He transformed the NFL from a financial standpoint.”

• Gordon Keith (33:03): “Jerry has given me a career.”

• Gordon Keith (37:12): “Adult Swim tackles Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones...”

Conclusion

Episode five, "Fake Jerry," offers a comprehensive exploration of The Musers The Podcast hosts' deep-rooted connections with the Dallas Cowboys, the transformative influence of Jerry Jones, and the evolving nature of sports media. Through candid discussions, memorable impersonations, and exciting new ventures into animation, George, Craig, and Gordon continue to deliver the unique blend of humor and insight that fans have come to love. As they navigate their first road podcast from California, listeners are treated to both nostalgic reflections and thrilling previews of what's to come.

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