Pet Peeves - Episode 13

Summary

The Musers The Podcast – Episode 13: Pet Peeves

Date: September 17, 2025
Hosts: George Dunham, Craig “Junior” Miller, Gordon Keith

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Musers—George, Craig, and Gordon—dive deep into the world of pet peeves, embracing the darker side of daily life with their signature banter and comic flair. The discussion ranges from social etiquette failures to the perils of customer service, dining out, assembling furniture, and, of course, the unique horrors of Dallas-Fort Worth traffic. Through stories, rants, and spirited debates, the trio explores what truly drives them crazy in modern life, all while poking fun at themselves and each other.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Pet Peeves?

• Gordon explains the motivation for the episode: to go negative after previous positive topics.
  • “I figure now it's time to get really down and dirty and talk about negative stuff. We’re going to go negative... things that bug the hell out of us.” [01:45]
• He mentions wanting to be more “hippie” and flexible but is also tempted to be assertive in the face of annoyances.

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2. Awkward Hallway Small Talk & Social Formalities

• Gordon confesses his dread of hallway small talk at work, especially the double-question exchange: “Hey, how you doing?” followed by “Hey, what’s up?” with neither answered. [03:41]
• He recently experienced being called out for not reciprocating with “And how are you?”
  • “Afterwards there was a pause and then they said, notice you didn’t ask how I was doing. I’m like, okay. And now I gotta start paying attention to that.” [04:38]
• George and Craig debate the necessity of social niceties, with Craig noting,
  • “Society functions on all of us playing this game.” [07:18]
• George relays a common workaround: being addressed generically (“There he is”) by a coworker who’s never learned their names, and the anxiety of not knowing others’ names as well. [07:33]

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3. Pet Peeves in Daily Life: Names, Conflicts, and “Ogre Mode”

• George laments forgetting names and being put on the spot, noting,
  • “Somewhere around the age of 31, I just said, you know what? I’ve got enough names now. I’m done.” [08:48]
• The Musers reflect on the challenges of memory as sports fans who can recall countless team rosters but blank on coworkers' names.

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4. Restaurant Ambiance & The Age of Loudness

• George rails against noisy restaurants—blaming design (concrete floors, high ceilings) and large, loud tables:
  • “I’m on an amazing run…where I’ve been next to the loud table, usually of six to eight women. And they’ve all got a story and a really loud reaction.” [12:16]
• Gordon and Craig agree, but Craig admits he tunes out ambient noise entirely.
• Annoyingly loud music is cited as a specific restaurant pet peeve, especially when staff claim, “We don’t know how to turn it down.” [14:31]
• Gordon recounts battling a man in a restaurant watching videos on an iPad without headphones. His passive-aggressive response?
  • “I get out my phone and I crank up some Skrillex…” [17:14]

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5. “Obliviates”: The Unaware Among Us

• Craig coins the term “Obliviates” for people oblivious to the world around them—slow drivers, grocery line blockers, or sidewalk non-movers. [18:00]
• Gordon shares his theory about "movers" versus "non-movers" in public spaces:
  • “I ran smack dab into six people in a row... There’s genetically movers and genetically non-movers, and I’m just a mover.” [20:02]

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6. The Grumpy Age & Noise Sensitivity

• The Musers muse over becoming “grumpy old men,” especially regarding loud vehicles and subwoofers:
  • “Have we ramped up the sound on dual exhaust?” [24:22] – George
  • “I did that one time to a dude … ‘Hey, you want me to EQ that for you?’” [25:35] – Gordon

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7. Road Rage & Traffic Trials

• The infamous “left lane camper” debate rages:
  • Gordon: “People just don’t know about the left lane anymore.” [28:43]
  • Craig: “Now the conventional wisdom is everyone thinks the left lane is the slow lane.” [29:07]
• Tales of passive-aggressive and direct road confrontations—someone flipping Gordon off leads him to follow the offender for nearly an hour, to a near-confrontation in rural Texas:
  • “He comes out ... What the fuck are you doing, man?... I just wanted to let you know that back about an hour ago ... you yield to the ramp.” [34:36]
• The ethics and dangers of tailgating, forced merges, and “precious left lane” arguments are debated in classic Musers style.

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8. Device Dependency & Diminishing Human Engagement

• Craig expresses dismay at seeing people glued to their phones even in nature:
  • “There are three young girls ... sitting on this bench in front of the lake and all three of them have their noses in their phone.“ [42:57]
  • “It’s creating the dumbing down of society... torpedoing relationships, interpersonal relationships...” [45:42]
• The group ruefully jokes about phones as escapism from boring dinner companions.

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9. Language & Sports Slang Evolution

• “Tutty” (touchdown), “pass pro” (pass protection), “QB1”, and especially “RBI” vs “RBIs” get roasted:
  • Craig: “Seager has 80 RBI this season ... It is RBI. No, it’s RBIs. … Since baseball was born, it has been RBIs.” [47:53]
  • The Musers champion natural evolution but moan about needless abbreviations.

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10. Customer Service & Data Collection Fatigue

• The frustrations of customer service “autopilot” and relentless data harvesting come in for criticism:
  • Gordon: “Listen to my whole problem first. … I’ve noticed that everyone is just on autopilot and they’re just doing…” [51:38]
• Pet peeves include being asked for phone numbers repeatedly, even for trivial purchases:
  • Craig: “Why am I having to give my phone number three and four and five times?” [52:45]
  • George: “I can’t sell this to you unless you give me your phone number.” [53:36]

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11. Assembly Required: The DIY Dilemma

• Craig: Loathes self-assembly, longing for the days when items came fully assembled:
  • “That is maybe my ultimate pet peeve. … Recently, I’ve had to assemble a bookcase, an end table, a bed. … All of these now come with some assembly required. And my mind doesn’t work that way.” [57:05]
  • Agrees to pay “$1 million” to never assemble furniture again.
• Gordon acknowledges enjoying building but resents the “outsourcing” of labor to the consumer.

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12. Tipping, Service Charges, and Modern Gratuity Woes

• The group laments the proliferation of gratuities and ambiguous “service charges”:
  • Gordon: “I had the option for additional gratuity, which is so nice of them to offer me that option ... and then I didn’t want to tip more because now I’m pissed.” [61:07]
  • At a merch table: “My selections were 20%, 25%, and 30% tip to the guy who reached in the cardboard box and handed me a sweatshirt.” [62:53]
  • The logic: why can't the tip option ever be negative? [62:08]
  • Questions over mandatory tipping at stadium concessions, where the money may not even reach the staff.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Gordon:

  • "I'm trying to be a person who doesn't have pet peeves..." [02:28]
  • "Passive-aggressively, I get out my phone and I crank up some Skrillex..." [17:14]
  • On name-forgetting: "I've got enough names now. I'm done." [08:48]
  • On assembly: "I didn't go into broadcasting and podcasting... to work on the final step of the assembly line." [59:23]

• George:

  • "I'm on an amazing run... next to the loud table, usually of six to eight women." [12:16]
  • On customer service: "I can't sell this to you unless you give me your phone number." [53:36]
  • "When did ATMs become ATM machines? ... We can call it an ATM." [49:06]

• Craig:

  • "Obliviates. People who are oblivious to the world around them." [18:00]
  • "It's creating the dumbing down of society... torpedoing relationships." [45:42]
  • On sports lingo: "Since baseball was born, it has been RBIs... until 10 years ago, some baseball nerd decided to clean up the language." [47:53]
  • On assembly: "Whatever you buy next that requires assembly, I will pay $1 million to some person to come and do that for me." [58:44]

• Classic Muser banter:

  • "You're playing both sides of this, aren't you?" [37:02]
  • "Raise the sails, Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching..." [41:20]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Awkward Small Talk & Social Etiquette – [03:41–07:33]
• Restaurant & Noise Pet Peeves – [12:16–16:49]
• Obliviates (Oblivious People) – [18:00–21:07]
• Loud Vehicles & Road Rage Stories – [24:22–34:59]
• Left Lane / Driving Debates – [28:34–35:00]
• Assembly Required Rants – [57:05–60:57]
• Tipping & Service Charges – [61:07–62:53]
• Devices & Human Interaction – [42:57–45:53]
• Sports Slang Complaints – [46:03–49:18]
• Customer Service Gripes – [50:14–54:42]

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains the Musers’ trademark mix of playful sarcasm, observational comedy, and warm self-deprecation. They mock their own aging, recognize their grumpy-old-man tendencies, and rarely miss an opportunity to rib one another or undercut a rant with a joke.

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Takeaways

• Pet peeves may evolve, but enduring examples—oblivious drivers, loud restaurants, assembly-required products, and pointless customer service routines—are universal frustrations.
• Despite their negativity, the Musers use these annoyances as comedic fodder, blending empathy for others’ perspectives with the catharsis of collective venting.
• The trio’s reflections on modern life reveal as much about themselves as the world around them, especially as they lean into the realities of aging and changing social norms.

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For Listeners

If you’ve ever fumed at a left-lane camper, missed the days when tables came built, or felt alone in your hatred of “tutty,” this cathartic and hilarious episode offers familiar commiseration—and a few new strategies to survive (or at least laugh at) everyday irritations.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

What operation did you say you were going to have?

[C]

What you I wanted to have. Can I say it?

[B]

Well, you've said it earlier.

[C]

I wanted to have my tits switched.

[D]

What does that mean?

[C]

They take the left one and put it on the right one and the right one put it on the left one.

[B]

So you're going through some sort of discomfort?

[C]

No, no, I just wanted to see if the surgery could be done. It's kind of my challenge to the medical community and so I'm going to miss work.

[B]

I don't think any doctor would do that.

[D]

That is the oddest elective surgery I've ever heard of.

[C]

Well, I didn't think it through. I didn't think it through, but it's just an idea. Okay, okay.

[B]

I'm not yelling at you, I'm just bad questioning the move.

[C]

A bad idea. Especially at Malzies. I need to get a reduction is what I think.

[B]

Yeah, I do too.

[C]

The Musers of the podcast. Episode 13, the pet peeves. Welcome to the Musers the Podcast. Welcome back to Musers the Podcast. This is me assuming that we have regular listeners.

[B]

Yay, regular listeners.

[C]

Yes, we are the Musers. I'm Gordon.

[B]

I'm George.

[D]

I'm Craig.

[C]

And we've been doing a radio show together for 300 years now. Wow. Three centuries. We've been best friends for almost that amount of time as well. So on the pod so far, we've discussed people we love, we've discussed things we love, and I figure now it's time to get really down and dirty and talk about negative stuff. We're going to go negative. You know, they teach you how to win a campaign, and since we're on a campaign for ears and hearts, we're going to go really negative. So we're going to discuss things we hate, things that bug the hell out of us and cause unnecessary discomfort. Negative. Now I'm trying to be a person who doesn't have pet peeves.

[B]

Trying to just roll with it.

[C]

Yeah, Trying to roll with it. You know, be a little bit more hippie and, you know, go with the flow and just a leaf floating on the river. But I'm kind of torn between two impulses. I want to also be more assertive and quit rolling over and taking it from everyone in my life and every company I deal with. You know, just. I want to graciously accept getting screwed over as well. So I have these two impulses that counter each other. So I don't know where I land on that spectrum. It depends on the day. So I figured we would share some of our pet peeves. And on our radio show, which is our day job, I've discussed many of these, like left lane campers. People just stay in the passing lane the whole time and drive the speed limit that needs to go away. People turning into the roadway that I'm in and they take up my lane when there's two or three other ones that are completely empty. And then, then in my rearview mirror when I pass them, aggressively swerve out of the way and get back into the lane. I noticed then they change lanes. They didn't even want to be in my lane to begin with. You know, things like that that are pretty universal. But I wanted us to tell stories of things that have happened to us recently that have really bugged the hell out of us.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I have a few. I had one that just occurred the, the other morning, and that is, you know, I hate hall talk. Hallway small talk is like the bane of the business world to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I always get caught in the double question, which leaves me feeling awkward for about 30 minutes afterwards, which is the double question of, hey, how you doing? Hey, what's up? And then nobody answers each other's question, but we've just double questioned each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, there's a flip side to this. And this is what I experienced the other day. And that was somebody said hi to me and said, how you doing? I said, oh, good, man. And then that was it. And then afterwards there was a pause and then they said, notice you didn't ask how I was doing. I'm like, okay. And now I got to start paying attention to that.

[B]

I mean, yeah, I think you are required to ask, then how are they doing?

[C]

But people aren't really asking how you're doing. They're saying, hi.

[B]

Maybe they are. Maybe they just made a decision. You know what? I'm going to start caring about my fellow employee more.

[C]

I don't think so.

[D]

Some people may actually care, but I think it's just a formality. It's more of just an extension of saying hi. You're right, but you need to reciprocate.

[C]

And then that prolongs the small talk.

[D]

But it's like someone walking by you and saying hi and then you not saying hi back.

[C]

But no, I'm not saying that the equivalent is. No, it's not the equivalent because I'm responding to that person. I'm saying I'm answering their meeting, their eye contact and giving them the answer to their question.

[B]

There's an expectation there.

[C]

It's a loving act for me to answer their question.

[D]

But you're really only responding with your own information. You're making it all about you.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Well, they made it all about me when they asked how I was doing. They didn't ask how I think they're doing.

[D]

But you need to make it about them as well by reciprocating and ask.

[C]

How they're doing now. Okay, this is what I'm going to do to battle that because it ticks me off because this person sitting there, I know she didn't ask and make me feel bad, you know, like. So next time I see this person, I'm going to really sidle up to him in the hallway and do the hey, man, listen, how are you doing? Is everything, I mean, are things going well? Fine. I just, I really want to know how you do it.

[B]

Maybe they'll tell you, hey, something's really bothering me and I appreciate you asking. And they'll tell you what they're going through. Yeah.

[D]

You might step in it, they might unload on you.

[C]

That's fine. I'll take that, I'll take that. I'll take that.

[B]

Five pre warn everyone. Hey, if Gordon Askew have a long story prepared, a really long story. You're right.

[C]

And it would give them a taste of their own medicine about how, look, this is small talk. We're not trying to really check in on each other's emotional well being.

[B]

You're right about that. It is a formality. But I think we are required to return a how are you doing? It'll take a second. They'll go, hey, great. And you're on about your day. You're fine. But it is such a formality that I find myself in a lot of mismatches like, how are you doing? Hi. You know, you got the wrong response. Already prepared, hey, what's going on?

[C]

Because you're on autopilot.

[B]

I'm doing Fine.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, wait. I mean, not much, right? It doesn't match up.

[C]

I can't tell you how many times I've had someone say to me, okay, enjoy your meal. And I'll say, you, too, to the waiter. It's on autopilot.

[D]

But George is right. Society functions on all of us playing this game. You just have to respond, can society.

[C]

Please quit functioning then to just keep going.

[D]

Well, we're trying our damnedest. We're trying our damnedest to not function.

[B]

You know, we do have a person that works in the building where we work, and he gives the same response to us every time. And since we happen to be male, it's. There he is. And we have worked with him for 20 years, and he has never called us by name. So it brings up the question, does he know our name?

[C]

No. This is his workaround. And I think it's pretty genius of this guy to do this. No matter what you say to him, no matter how you look, you could be tears streaming down your face walking down the hallway. He'll just say, there he is. And then.

[B]

All right, I'm going to start bringing out a condition with him. I have diarrhea. There he is.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right, let's see if I can trip him up.

[C]

Roll tape on it. Roll tape on it, because I want to see your big hallway proclamation of diarrhea.

[D]

Or do this. Just call him on it. When he says, there he is. Go. What's my name?

[B]

See, I don't want to do that because there's other people that work in the building where we work, and I don't know their name, so I don't want to. That's going to come back and bite me somehow.

[C]

Yeah, I know. And you ever feel guilty about that?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yes. Terrible.

[C]

Somewhere around the age of, I think 31, I just said, you know what? I've got enough names now. I'm done. I'm done learning names, and my brain will not remember names anymore.

[B]

Boy, and when someone puts you on the spot, too. Hey, how are you? You doing?

[C]

Hey, guy.

[B]

You don't remember my name, do you?

[C]

Yeah, dude. I mean, yeah. I mean, why? Why? Why would I not know?

[B]

Why do people do that to you? Why don't they just play along with the game, Right?

[C]

You don't remember me, do you?

[B]

Yeah, of course I do.

[C]

You have to tap dance for five minutes verbally. Tap dance? Oh, yeah, dude. Maybe we met to the thing.

[B]

John, Bill, Jack the Fred.

[C]

I mean, wouldn't it be funny if your name was like Bob or something. I mean, I know it's not, but anyway, right. Wouldn't it be funny if it was Fred? I mean, I know it's probably not.

[D]

But that's always awkward when someone comes up to you and says, hey, Craig, how's it going? I say, hey, nice to meet you. We met two years ago.

[C]

Yeah, we just talked two weeks ago.

[D]

Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right.

[C]

I'm sorry. I was thinking of.

[B]

So is the fail safe good to see you again? I'm just meeting you for the first time.

[C]

I always say just good to see you.

[B]

Good to see you. Okay. That's a safe one there.

[C]

Yeah. And it's because of. I don't know, just. Once again, just met a lot of people in my life.

[B]

I know I'm with you.

[C]

And I feel bad because my brain has now shut down on that.

[D]

Don't they say we use 10% of our brain's capacity?

[C]

That's a lie.

[D]

And I feel like that when we each get to that 10% that we just shut it down. Even though we have plenty of room for other names and information and things to learn, we pretty much just get to a point where we're full.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And we just want to deal with what we know.

[B]

Think of any names we have up there, all the teams through the years. We're big sports fans and we have so much, so many rosters in there. We don't.

[C]

You're right. We don't have room. Maybe not learn, you know, every second stringer on the Cowboys and maybe pay attention to the people who are actually physically in your life.

[B]

You're right. I should be able to identify them better than I can someone who played for the Cowboys in 1981.

[C]

All right, who of the three of us has the most conflicts with people throughout our day?

[D]

George.

[B]

I seem to draw them somehow. I draw people offside. When it comes to uncomfortable conversations about our show, about opinions they have about something we've said. I seem to draw that more in day to day life. And I don't know why that is.

[C]

I don't know which I love. Because George is the most, is kind of like the nicest gentle giant among us. But when he gets activated, he is the biggest ogre I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

Yeah, I do have a switch.

[C]

You go 0 to 100.

[B]

I do.

[C]

And when someone pisses you off, you get so focused in your anger and just verbally dice them up like a ninja.

[B]

Oh, wait a minute. Now we're talking to the assassin over here to my left in Gordo, who can absolutely annihilate someone. I do have a switch that gets flipped from time to time, and I've worked on that. I've worked on, I used to have a really bad temper and I've had to really work on that. So now I just let people, you know, run all over you. Just run all over me. Okay, how about this one? As we talk about things that drive us. Absolutely incredible, Incredibly crazy. As I'm getting older. Is noise starting to bother you all more than it used to?

[D]

Is.

[B]

And I'm on an amazing run when it comes to going out to eat and sitting next to a table. Not trying to profile here, but usually it's women.

[C]

Uh oh.

[B]

And I'm always by the loud table. The group of six women who talk so incredibly loud. Just last week I was at lunch with a friend. We almost had to go to hand signals. It was a concrete floor, sounds bouncing all over the place.

[C]

That's one of the problems is that these, every restaurant has the same minimalist decor of concrete floors and then the high ceilings that are concrete with exposed ductwork.

[B]

Audio bounce house is all it is. What? And I know my hearing is getting worse, but I found myself and it's an incredible run. My perception is it's 67 restaurants in a row where I've been next to the loud table, usually of six to eight women. And they've got a story. And they've all got a story and a really loud reaction.

[C]

See, that's. I've, I've done it before where I've waited for another table. Like when I see that's the only table available and they're going to seat me at some restaurant.

[B]

I've said, not there.

[C]

Yeah. And you look over that table and there's six or eight women there. And with an assortment of half drunk white wine glasses, you want out of that area. You don't want to be in that area.

[D]

See, I don't notice that at all. And you guys know when the three of us go out to eat lunch or dinner, I don't hear anything in the background. I don't hear background music.

[C]

Not even conversations?

[D]

No. And not conversations. When I am at a table at a restaurant for dinner, I hear what is being said at my table and I don't really notice anything around me. So no, I've never had that issue.

[B]

Yeah, I noticed the music. And you would have noticed that. This place where we work, my wife and I, a couple of weeks ago. And again, it was so loud we could barely hear each other. And it was old Frank Sinatra songs that I'd never heard before. They were really obnoxious. And finally we said to one of the waitresses, could you just turn down the music? It's us. And, like, two other tables. Could you just turn it down just a little bit? Oh, sure. Then she came back. We don't know how to turn the music down.

[C]

This issue's never come up before, sir.

[B]

We had to ride it out for 30 minutes and it was so loud.

[D]

Yeah. Now that is a pet peeve of mine. If I'm in a place and they have the music so loud that I can't hear the person at my table.

[C]

Right.

[D]

And that happens a lot.

[B]

Yeah, but it's the.

[D]

The conversations around me or the music. If it's at a lower level around me, I won't notice.

[C]

Oh, man, I've been seated next to so many dude bros that are over cussing in the booth. Over.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, like. And that really makes me feel old. Like when I have the impulse to say, you know, guys, you don't have to cuss every other word. Like, what is that coming from me?

[B]

I don't know. But I ran into it on a flight back yesterday to Texas. We're in the Midwest, flying back about. Okay, I was in Lincoln, Nebraska, and we're flying back from the Midwest. Hour and a half flight. Pretty short flight. But it seemed long because there were three dude bros who f bombed every eight seconds.

[D]

Loudly.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And I'm looking around, there's kids, and I'm just.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But did I say anything?

[C]

No, no.

[B]

I just took on the barrage of F bombs and thought, well, I guess this is just where we are now that we can just say whatever we want to say. Because don't you think the next step ahead, especially if you're on a plane? I can see the headline. Radio podcast host gets into argument and plane has to be diverted.

[C]

Plane diverted.

[D]

Slugs woman.

[B]

Because I'm going to say the wrong thing. So I just keep to myself and just. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

Since this is on the topic, I did have this happen to me the other day at one of my restaurants of my choosing. I go to this place all the time because I love the waits. I've usually go right after we do our radio show, so, you know, I can do work there and there's not a lot of people there. And so I go to this place and there's a dude sitting a couple tables over from me. Fine. For my preferred location, I have kind of the regular place I sit and he's on an iPad and you know, it's nice and quiet in there and getting some work done. And then all of a sudden this dude decides that he wants to watch Mission Impossible 14 or something on his iPad with no headphones turned up to 11.

[B]

Yes, he made it to the restaurant.

[C]

I said, wait a minute. And it is so loud. And I don't understand how this guy is so not self aware that this thing is this loud in the restaurant and there's a person sitting two tables over from him in an empty restaurant. He didn't even go to a remote area of the restaurant. Does it right next to me.

[B]

Did you say something?

[C]

What do you think? No, of course not.

[B]

You went over and pulled up a chair and started watching.

[C]

It's my job to privately stew and ruin my own breakfast the whole time planning on the thing. I'm not going to say to it. That's my job in this situation. No, but I battled him in the passive aggressive way. So I get out my phone and I crank up some Skrillex on it and I'm listening to some electronic dance music.

[D]

Did he even notice though?

[C]

Yeah, he did. He looks over and he keeps cutting me dirty looks as I'm kind of bobbing along to this ridiculously overdriven music that I would never even listen to. But I'm doing it. But I'm putting him out now.

[B]

That is awesome. Did he turn it down?

[C]

No, he turned it on. He kept watching. He kept watching.

[D]

So on my list of pet peeves, I have Obliviates. People who are oblivious to the world around him. And that would be this guy.

[C]

Yeah, I think almost all of these are about people who just lack some sort of situational awareness or don't care. They just don't care.

[D]

And should that bother me us this much? But it drives me crazy when people are on the roadway and they just don't know that there's a car behind them or to their side or in front of them. They don't know that they're in the improper lane. People who don't follow the rules of the road or the rules of a parking lot or the rules of a grocery store line or any rules anywhere that they're just oblivious. They're so in their own world that it makes everybody else around them either miserable or agitated or puts them in danger, like a lot of the Obliviates do on the roadways.

[C]

You ever get the slow walker in front of you down a hallway or something that just. You can't seem to get by them.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You try to make a move and they're thinking you're overly aggressive or what.

[D]

If you're with somebody and you're walking down a sidewalk and say there's another couple approaching you and they just, it's like they have no idea you're there. And there's not enough room for four people on the sidewalk. And I'm always one that will kind.

[C]

Of turn my shoulders or you're the one that gives.

[D]

Yeah. Make a little room. And they just plow ahead. And it might, it might be a 270 year old man and woman or they're just, it's like they're oblivious that there are other people on the sidewalk.

[C]

Well, you know my theory on the, the people like and I used to talk about this back when malls were a big deal. I think there's movers and there's non movers when it comes to walking. And I noticed I used to run experiments back in the day because I think I move around people.

[B]

Both of y' all walk really fast.

[C]

And it really kind of started pissing me off that I realized I'm moving for everyone in this mall that's walking towards me.

[D]

That's how I am.

[C]

They will see me even. It's not like they're. That they don't see me. It's just they're non movers. And I said I'm going to be, I'm going to become a non mover and see if that's the deal. Am I just flinching early? And that's why those people aren't moving. So I did the experiment and I walked straight ahead, make eye contact with them. I ran smack dab into six people in a row. And that's when I realized and came to the conclusion there's just genetically movers and there's genetically non movers and I'm just a mover.

[D]

Okay. But I don't get that then if there are all these non movers out there, they are passing each other and just running into each other all the time.

[C]

I don't know how that works. Jesus didn't tell me the secret of that.

[B]

See, I think I'm an over mover and sometimes I get matched up with the over mover and we both go right and we both go left.

[C]

Those are shadow movers. When you meet your shadow mover self.

[B]

I'm one of those. Yeah, somehow I've met my walking doppelganger and we just kind of go back.

[C]

And forth, mirroring each other, waving the.

[B]

Hand, boxing match or something.

[D]

Music breaks out, you start dancing.

[B]

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[D]

But also, aren't we supposed to mellow with time?

[B]

Right? Yes, but I guess both are true.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I think what happens is you mellow after, like, middle age, and then you get grumpy again. Then it ramps back up as you get towards the. Really, the back half of things.

[B]

Yeah. I'm afraid I'm getting grumpy, especially when it applies to noise. When I was in high school, junior high, and if some dude passed with dual exhaust, I went, man, that is so cool. That sounds so good. And now you're a car guy. Gordo, have we ramped up the sound on dual exhaust?

[C]

Well, those people are tuning their exhaust to be loud and making it ridiculous. It's like no performance function. Shouldn't with the things.

[D]

That's a good one. That should have been on my pet peeve list. I hate that.

[B]

It just drives me insane. It could be on the highway. It could be on a residential street.

[D]

It was the other night at 4am.

[B]

On our residential case on a residential street in the middle of the night when you get a car inspected. And this should go for any state in the union.

[C]

Oh, God.

[B]

Shouldn't you have to have a vu meter going up? That's too loud.

[C]

Right? A decibel meter going there. Right.

[D]

And it's people just wanting attention.

[C]

How about the people that turn their car into subwoofers? It's just the whole car is a moving subwoofer.

[B]

How can that sound good inside that vehicle?

[C]

I have to imagine that at least some of those guys are in there and they have the earplugs in and they're wearing, you know, gun range, you know, headset.

[B]

And they've got.

[C]

They. They are. Their whole idea. And they have their windows tinted extremely dark so no one can see them protecting their own hearing.

[D]

Right.

[C]

They'll take it off real quick and roll down their window and say hi to their buddies. You know, music's cranked up.

[B]

Do you ever go tell them just to maybe with the level a little bit, got too much bass going.

[C]

I did that one time to a dude who was. I was in a bad mood. And I was at an intersection, and the guy was next to me, and I rolled down my window and signaled him to roll down his window. And I asked the guy. He turned down the music and I asked the guy. I said, hey, you want me to EQ that for you? Oh, it's a little bit too much low end.

[D]

No way.

[C]

A little bit too much low. It's not balanced, man. You know, really, the key, the key is to get in that 2k range is where you really want to hear the human voice.

[B]

You are crazy.

[D]

That is dangerous.

[B]

Especially in first date these days.

[D]

That is very dangerous.

[C]

16, 17 years ago.

[B]

Okay, what did the guy do, huh?

[C]

He flipped me off and rolled his window back up. Didn't say a word.

[B]

Turned it back up.

[D]

Yeah, I would never do something like that today. All these pet peeves around us. But if you confront people like I had one, this is probably 10 years ago, and I'm in a parking garage and I'm behind somebody who is like me, looking for a spot. And they are driving at one mile an hour and they are going down this lane and there's nothing there. And they turn and there's only, you know, I have to stay behind them because there's only one way through this parking garage. They go down the next line of. Nothing there, but they're going one mile an hour. And they do this for about three or four of these lanes. And finally I lay on my horn and I roll down my window and I said, there's either an open spot or not. How is it taking you so long to figure this out? There's either a spot or not. Just go.

[C]

Are you doing memorizing license plates? What's happening here?

[D]

It made me crazy, but these days I don't even know if I would do that anymore.

[C]

That same thing happened to me at DFW Airport just the other day. The slow 1 mile an hour person going through the parking garage. I mean, clearly George is raising his hand.

[B]

Well, sometimes you don't know can you fit into that spot or not. I got a truck. And sometimes you have to measure it up.

[D]

If that's the case. But my case, I was following a guy where there were no open spots. But he's driving one mile an hour and you can pick it up to 10 or 15. You can see if the spot is open or not.

[B]

I know you can, but man, you gotta be. So just like in the airplane and I was talking about you can't really say much to people on the roadways. You can't. But at the same time, I had a guy cut me off a couple of weeks ago and then he flipped me off and I wasn't doing anything. I mean, I was in the right lane, he passed me on the left and cuts me off. I had to break. I must have done something to him. I was like, man, what did I do to this guy? And he flipped me off. And then that triggered me, and I was like, oh, okay. And I started making all sorts of wild gestures, and. And, yeah, he could have just gotten upset and pulled out his gun.

[C]

You just.

[B]

You got to keep to yourself.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It reminds me. I battled a left lane camper this morning.

[B]

Okay, let's get into traffic.

[C]

Because they were. I'm a fast driver, and I'm not saying that that is a good thing. It's. It's bad. I need to adjust my behavior too.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So that being said, I drive way too fast. But the people who don't understand, and I really do think that now we've gotten to a point, it can't just be coincidence. I think people just don't know about the left lane anymore.

[D]

They don't.

[C]

Like, they really think that this is just another optional driving lane of just get over here.

[B]

I could either drive over here.

[C]

I could drive over here. It's just whichever lane you feel most comfortable in. That's the whole idea of the road.

[D]

I'm not even sure it's that. I think now the conventional wisdom is everyone thinks the left lane is the slow lane.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Really?

[D]

Yeah. I don't even think they think it's optional. I think they think this is the slow lane, is the left lane. Because if you're on the highway now in an interstate, the left lane is always gummed up and the right lane is wide open.

[C]

Yeah. And I don't understand the patience of the people who are all gummed up in the left lane. I've seen a column of 30 cars behind a slowpoke in the left lane, and then the right two lanes are just open. I'm like, what are. What's happening?

[B]

Well, he's gonna move eventually. I'm just gonna stay over here.

[C]

So I. Yeah, I've done that thing that you've referenced, Craig. I've just. I've taken road trips where I made great time just in the far right lane.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Some states doesn't. Just the state to our north, we're in Texas. Doesn't Oklahoma ticket you for driving too slowly in the left lane?

[D]

Yeah, a lot of states will. And in Texas, we even have signs on the interstate that says, slow traffic, Keep in the right.

[B]

Nobody pays attention.

[C]

Left lane is for passing only. Yeah. No. And no one pays attention to it. But this dude this morning, he was going slow, and I'm behind him for a while. He can see that I'm rather Close to him.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So that should be his signal. Right. Because I get that too. I make allowances for. There are some people who are not very good about checking their rear view mirror, but once every minute, you know, and. And I'm like, okay, this guy will get over as soon as he sees me. Just perhaps doesn't seem, never ever seemed to see me. And so finally I just get around, go around him and I get in front of him. And then around that time I decided, you know, I feel most comfortable going around 65. Feels like a good, comfortable room temperature to me. So I start going slowly and this guy starts acting annoyed back behind me and he's trying to pass me. I'm like, I don't understand why you want to pass me. Am I going too slow? I'll just speed up a little bit. I'll speed up so then they can't get around me. I had that whole battle happening and I hated myself for it.

[B]

Didn't you follow someone one time that got mad at you and you followed them for miles?

[C]

Yeah, and that was an experience that changed the way I did things because that was a little bit of a scary experience. So one of the things that I've done throughout my life is anytime there's a conflict with someone, I've noticed that people usually don't want to talk about it. They want to flip you off, they want to make their comment and then if you follow them and say, hey, let's, let's talk about that, I notice you did the flip off. Right. And the flip off that. What were you meaning by that specifically? You start really engaging them in conversation, they get really uncomfortable quickly and they want to get out of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, everybody's wanting to drive by each other and just quick hit and be a jerk and they don't want to talk about the issue. So there's this one dude, he. It was getting off at an intersection, I mean off the highway, off a ramp. And I think he was supposed to yield and he didn't. He's on the service road and we're coming up to a light and I'm getting off the highway, going up to that same light and supposed to yield to the ramp and everything. He didn't. Or something like this. And so he started driving. So I was behind him and I was at the next intersection. I was going to say, you know, roll down the window and say, hey, back there, just by the way, you're supposed to yield to that ramp. You know, I saw you. But somebody else may not that sounds pretty reasonable. Yeah, well, he didn't pull over. He just kept going and wouldn't. He kept trying to ignore me. You know, I could tell that he could see me trying to get him to roll out. He was just ignoring me, looking straight ahead. And finally he just raises the middle finger at me without looking at me.

[D]

Genius.

[C]

And so I was like, okay, well, I'll catch you at the next intersection. And the next intersection, basically the same thing happened. Maybe I'll catch you at the next one. So I just start going his way.

[B]

So he's flipping you off at all of these?

[C]

About the first three or four. And then after that, he just stopped responding to me, and I just kept following. And I'm saying, okay. And I'm not proud of this, but I get kind of bulldoggy about something following through the end. Now, my whole idea is whenever we stop, I'm going to say very nicely, I'm not going to be a jerk. I'm not going to cuss or anything. I'm just going to say, hey, man, just to let you know that back there is you're supposed to yield to the ramp coming off the highway. So that's how all I'm gonna say. And I was gonna say it very calmly, which that's what I always do. And it always annoys people that it's not that big a deal to. You're just passing on the information kind of thing. We drove and we drove and we drove, and this dude lived probably about an hour outside of the Metroplex, the DFW area.

[D]

So you're stalking him at this point?

[C]

Yes. Now he's also in a big old truck. This is when I'm driving. Little economy car, same. He's got a big old truck, you know, with decals, Browning on the back of it, and a few different other arms dealers. And. And we go way out to this place in the country, to some acreage, and he pulls off the side of the road and locks them up and everything. Oh, no. And I pull up beside him and I'm getting ready to deliver my hay, just to let you know. And he comes out of there, the truck. What the fuck are you doing, man? What are you doing? And I'm saying, hey, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. I just wanted to let you know that back about an hour ago, that. That is. You yield to the Ram. And he is freaking out and yelling and veins are popping out of his neck, and he is just amped up. And then he goes, I'm Gonna blank and kill you. And he goes back towards his truck. And that's when I decided, you know, if the calm talk isn't working on this guy, I'm just going to put it in reverse and get out of here. So that was as far as I went on one of those. And I said, you know, I'm not going to going.

[D]

That's about an hour too far.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Then you got to drive all the way. Where am I? I don't even know where I am.

[C]

Didn't know where I was. Ran out of gas, Just ditched the car. Scratch it off the VIN plate, leave it for somebody to burn through the parts.

[B]

Okay. About driving, and you're right, the left hand bog down is a beat down. But please tell me, Gordo, I don't think Craig does this. Please tell me you're not an extreme tailgater.

[D]

I do it.

[B]

And even worse, the extreme tailgate pass.

[D]

Guy, I do it.

[C]

What's the tailgate pass guy?

[B]

That's someone's behind you, and they get right up on you, and then they pass you in before you've got out of the lane. In my rear view, it looks like they miss your bumper by inches. So if they're trying to pass, if I just tapped my brakes, slowed down a little bit, there's no question they hit my back bumper.

[C]

I think you got two people in here that do that.

[B]

Y' all got to stop doing.

[D]

I'm an extreme tailgater. To send a message to this Obliviate. In the left lane.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

But we have no choice in that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

If it's a left lane, that's one thing, but duty. If it's right lane and I'm out of your web, not in your precious left lane that you need for autobond. Precious and qualifying times that you guys are running. If you are passing me and I'm in the right lane, just don't tailgate past me to where you go right up on me and then. Because what if the car in front of me slows down? I have to slow down.

[C]

I'm keeping an eye on the car in front of you.

[B]

I don't think you can because you're accelerating and you're right on my butt.

[D]

But we've never clipped anyone so far, have we?

[C]

Nope.

[D]

We're in complete control back there.

[B]

Oh, man, that worries me. And you talk about pet peeves. It really ticks me off. And back when my kids were little and you could have kids in the back, and someone does that.

[C]

Yeah. And then that and then it makes.

[B]

You want to just chase after them.

[C]

It's that primal thing. Yeah.

[B]

But then at the same time I'm also annoyed by the person that has baby on board. It's just like, yeah, I know, we should all drive like everyone has a baby on board.

[C]

Okay. You're playing both sides of this, aren't you? Hey, since we're doing pet peeves, I want to mention driving. Pet peeves. Mention. I've had this happen to me now, I would say three or four times. And it happened again yesterday. And it's a positive thing.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

One of my other pet peeves is when there's three lanes going each way on, you know, not the highway, the residential streets and thoroughfares, I guess you would say. And the person who is in driving in the right lane and there's two open lanes beside them and then they come up to a stoplight and they stay in the right lane but they're going straight like that always bugs the hell out of me.

[B]

The person who takes the right behind.

[C]

They take the right. We're right on red state in Texas. And if you have choices of lanes, don't block up the right lane for people because I've seen it before where you've had 30 cars stacked up, no one in the middle lane or the left lane, but the right lanes. 30 cars stacked up behind someone who's going straight through an intersection at a light. So yesterday I had it where I was behind a guy. I turned on my signal well ahead of time because I could see the, the storm clouds are brewing because he's in his little undersized truck going straight. I was worried he was going to go straight to this intersection. And he is a guy who checks his rearview mirror, sees me behind him with a right turn blinker on as we're driving up to the intersection. And he moved over to the middle lane after this thing had turned red. And he moved over a guy who's aware because he checks his frickin mirrors.

[B]

So what do you think the percentage is?

[C]

You know what I did? I waved at him at the intersection as I pass him before I turned right, I waved at him and gave him a thumbs up.

[B]

That's good.

[D]

Good.

[B]

So what do you think the percentages are? 50. 50 good drivers, bad drivers? Or do you think it's 80%?

[C]

Oh no, oblivious. It's 80% oblivious.

[D]

Yeah, I think that more so today with phones and technology and the other distractions.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think that also, as we talked about, there's genetic Movers and genetic non movers when you're walking on the sidewalk. I also think that there's like just dispositions that people have whether they're into driving or they're not into driving. Some people just see driving as a necessary evil that they have to do to get to point A to point B.

[D]

Some people are scared.

[C]

Some people are scared, yes. But then there's others who like, I enjoy driving and I enjoy moving and making decisions and maneuvering and all of that kind of stuff. Driving is an active activity to me and some people treat it as it is a passive time. They just have to sit there and get through. I've always marveled at the fact that nobody seems to be in a bigger hurry. How can we have such a fast paced society and now we want everything in an instant touch of a button kind of society. Yet driving seems to be. Everyone just pokes along in my view.

[B]

Well, I don't know. See, I see it the other way that everyone's. And especially the area where we live, Dallas, Fort Worth, and I think those surveys have showed it, haven't they? We're the among the fastest drivers.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And yet everyone seems very slow to me.

[D]

I don't think everyone is poking along and everyone's slow. They just jump out at us. Guys like us, Gordo, we're fast drivers so we notice all the slow pokes. But I think the Dallas highways where we live are. It's like the Indy 500 out there.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

There are so many fast drivers. It's I think the most dangerous town to drive into.

[B]

So because of that, as people get older, do you think there ought to be an age where you have to take a driving test again and probably just to see.

[C]

I know, but then you do that and I mean I always have as fast a driver as I am, I. If I look and I see that it's an old person always slack is.

[B]

That's good.

[D]

Yeah, me too.

[B]

Good.

[D]

Me too.

[B]

They need.

[C]

I always think, hey, they're doing the best that they can.

[D]

I'm not going to yell at or flip off somebody's ground. Father or grandmother.

[C]

Right.

[B]

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[D]

All right, I got a couple of pet peeves on my list and tell me if these are legit or if these are just me getting old or this is.

[C]

I think they're all you being this.

[D]

Is man yelling at a cloud the other day I'm at our big lake here in town, White Rock lake. It's a 10 mile loop around and I go down there to ride my bike a lot and it was a beautiful day outside, there were a lot of people out and I go past this park bench and there are three young girls, they look to be about 20 and they are sitting on this bench in front of the lake and all three of them have their noses in their phone. Then I keep riding and there is a woman walking her dog with with the dog's leash in the left hand and her phone in her right hand with her nose in her phone. Then I ride along further and the next group of humans I see a man and a woman. I'm assuming they were a couple walking along not talking to each other on this beautiful day with this beautiful lake and trees all around. They had their Noses in their phones. And that is one of my pet peeve is seeing the world on their phones.

[C]

But how do you know they weren't looking at things that were more beautiful on their phones? Like a picture of a great sunset?

[D]

They may have been, but that's virtual. But they've got beauty in front of them. And I just see so many people in the world today, especially in parks and places where you're supposed to recreate and take in nature and the sun and the greenery, which is also good for our brains. And it lights up all these important areas in our medulla.

[C]

Yeah, that sounds stupid.

[D]

And they are just. They are in this other world via their phone. And it really bothers me and I want to stop every time I see. And I see so many kids in particular out at the lake or on our trail system in Dallas, Fort Worth, where they're walking along and they're not talking to each other and they're just looking at their phone. And I want to stop and I want to say, put down the phones. Enjoy each other. Enjoy this LAKE and this 80 degree day and the sunshine and see those. There's a bald eagle up in that tree. You don't even know it. There's this duck situation on the lake that is really interesting. And what they're doing.

[C]

There's this duck situation on the lake that's interesting.

[D]

Notice what's around you.

[B]

I'm with you. Yeah, I'm with you.

[D]

It's just a huge pet peeve of mine.

[B]

And even if you're not in nature, we've talked about this.

[C]

What's nature?

[B]

Nature. I said it kind of weird.

[C]

You did kind of say it weird.

[B]

But even like a restaurant setting, and there's a couple over there and they're out to dinner, it's a Friday night and they're both just looking at their phones.

[C]

Yes, thank God for phones. They give us sweet relief from the person we decided to spend the rest of our lives with.

[B]

Are we to the point we need to turn those in? If we go to a park or if we go to a restaurant, just like kids do at school now.

[C]

No, we need it. We need to get away from other people.

[D]

It's creating the dumbing down of society.

[C]

Yes, bring it on. As long as it's entertaining, it's torpedoing.

[D]

Relationships, interpersonal relationships to where we don't.

[B]

Know how to have conversations anymore. We just look at each other and go, hey, there he is.

[C]

Okay, that's all we know him responsible for all that.

[B]

That's all we know how to say anymore.

[D]

All right. The other one is language. And I am really bothered. And this is in our day job at a sports radio station. I am bothered by a lot of the new slang in sports terminology. And the one that drives me the craziest right now, we're in football season. Hey, look, they got a tutty on that play instead of touchdown. Tutty. I hate that is nails on a chalkboard to me. And more and more announcers and fans are using that. No, they should skip a field goal here and go for a tutty.

[B]

Yeah, McAfee's really spread that. He was the first one I ever heard say.

[D]

Well, that makes sense because he drives me crazy. And that makes sense that he is the first one that brought tutty into the lexicon.

[B]

Talks a lot about tutties and then.

[D]

And then all of the new football terminology that supposedly is saving time, I guess. But we can't say pass protection. We say pass pro.

[B]

That's a pass. Yeah, that one drives me crazy, too.

[D]

And I think you are maybe, maybe saving 1/100th of a second.

[C]

Yes. Incremental gains, though.

[D]

Pass pro.

[B]

That's all you're leaving out.

[D]

Or you can't say starting quarterback anymore. It's QB1.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Just makes me crazy.

[B]

I'm proud to say. I don't think I've ever said QB1.

[D]

I don't think I have either. And I will. And I will never say pass pro.

[B]

He's going to start. He's going to start at quarterback. What's so wrong with that? QB1.

[D]

Dak is the Cowboys starting quarterback?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

No, he's QB1 and then one from baseball. That started 10 years ago, 15 years ago that I hate to this day. And I think. I think I'm winning the war against this.

[C]

You have a war against it?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

I think I may be your ally in this.

[C]

You're underwater.

[D]

Seager has 80 RBI this season.

[B]

Oh, gosh.

[D]

Seager had four RBI last night.

[C]

That is correct. You ought to support that.

[D]

It is RBI.

[C]

No, it's RSBI.

[D]

Since baseball was born, it has been RBIs. And RBI is when you drive a run in, a run batted in. And if you have multiple of those. We have always said RBIs and it's been fine.

[C]

But we've said runs batted in.

[D]

Yes, but nobody that's RBI, nobody has ever had a problem with it until 10 years ago. Some baseball nerd decided to clean up the language. Oh, wait, that's improper.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Multiple RBIs should just be RBI. And there was no need for that. Baseball was functioning just fine without that. It's RBI and waged a war.

[B]

Yes, I'm with you on this one. And I think you're right. I think it's coming back. RBI's is starting to come back, except for the highbrow, right. Baseball observer, rbi, and you know what? Sniffs after it.

[D]

And RBI is coming back because of my hard work.

[B]

Yeah, maybe so. It's. It's like, if we want to call it an ATM machine, it's okay.

[C]

We can call it an atm. Don't call it that.

[D]

If I want to say something is FUBAR beyond all recognition, I can do that.

[C]

It's really redundant.

[B]

No, I'm with you on RBI's.

[C]

Okay. I have another one. I always get into it with customer service people.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And I try to be nice to them because I recognize that they got a job that they're probably not so happy about. But all I ask is that just listen to what I'm actually saying and stop just saying. Well, policy is this. And, you know, half the times I'll ask a question and they give me a rote answer, not even listening that I'm asking something else. So I've had this happen to me before. I had this happen to me. This was probably like six months ago. I called up this place. Is that generic. And I have noticed a difference in customer service people lately. I don't know if y' all have experienced this, but remember there for many years, it was always the customer's always right. No, no, it was always. You're always talking to Austin or Justin or Cody, who was a super hip guy that had an Indian accent.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

You remember that For a while, many.

[B]

Years, they tried that.

[C]

They always had really Texan names, but a really non Texan accent. Anyway, I don't notice that as much anymore. But anyway, I'm talking to this person and I say, look, you know, I need to do. Hey, how you doing? Yeah, I need to do two things. I need to change my mailing address, and I need to eliminate one of the optional extras on my account, that service that I don't even use anymore. Yeah, absolutely. I can totally help you with that. Everybody's now they're doing the real super, chatty, cheerful guy.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Yeah, sure. I can help you with that. Okay, let's do this. So change the mailing address. Okay. And what was the other thing I could help you with? Yeah, I need to take off one of the optional things that I had opted for before, but don't really use it. So. Need that taken off? Yeah. Hey, listen, sorry we have to wait two weeks. Anytime there's been a change on the account, on the mailing address, you can't change one of the options or something. I'm like, wait a second. You heard me give you those two items right at the front of this phone call, and you knew you had a system that would lock out changes if you make one this particular kind of change at first.

[B]

Well, that's our policy.

[C]

And why didn't you reverse the order with me? I don't understand. You heard the two things and knew that the second thing couldn't be done if the first thing was done. Why didn't you do that? Sir, I'm just telling. This is. This is the way.

[B]

Because the first thing you said was a change of address, sir.

[C]

Right, that's what I did first. Because you didn't listen. All you did was you just heard the first thing and you decided you're not even going to worry about the second thing. Do you do the first? Listen to my whole problem first. That's all I'm saying. I've noticed that everyone is just on autopilot and they're just doing. What is this you need? Okay, you're right.

[B]

And hey, at least you talk to a person. A lot of times it's. You are talking to some sort of machine.

[D]

I've got one along those lines. Customer service, pet peeve of mine. It's when you call and you first get the machine, you get the automated voice. Welcome to Duck Situation on a Lake Company. Please enter your 7 digit phone number. And I enter my phone number now. Do you want this department, this department, this department? I press 3 and it transfers me to this department. And then I get a real person and they say, okay, who is this? My name's Craig Miller. Okay, what's your phone number? And I always say, you just asked me for that. I just punched it in. So now it should be there on the screen. Why am I having to give my phone number three and four and five times?

[C]

It's for your security, sir.

[B]

Yes, the robot didn't tell me what your phone number was, so. And Gordo, I will give you some credit. You were right about this a long time ago. Because I witnessed you one time in a standoff about not giving your phone number. I remember thinking, man, just give him your phone number. We're just trying to get our press credentials or whatever we were trying to do that day, but it has gone so far that I just I think I told you this story not to a couple years ago, but I went in because this place sells a brand of shampoo that I like to generic and they have it in stock there. Got it off the shelf. Go to the register. Yes. And your phone number. Well, I don't want to give that out. I can't sell this to you unless you give me your phone number.

[C]

I can't sell you it.

[B]

Ridiculous. What do you mean? I just came in to buy a thing of shampoo. Yes, but we need to put you in our system. Because I said no, you don't. I just want to buy shampoo.

[C]

Okay, so that's exactly what I did where you were yelling at me that time.

[B]

I know. I just said I was sorry. You were right. I was wrong about it.

[C]

I need to graciously accept the apology.

[B]

And the way I got out of that one was gave him the number to time and temperature, which still works in Dallas Fort Worth of 214-844-4444.

[C]

I know that is my name in so many databases. I mean my number in so many databases is time and temperature. I know the data harvesting is just incredible and people just go along with it because you as a customer also on autopilot and you're thinking, well, I just have to give it to them, right?

[B]

And sooner or later I should join this one store I go to all the time for pet supplies, generic, they ask me every time number. Well, you know you can say 5%, right? That's okay. I know that's okay. But sir, you come in here a lot. I know that. I just don't want to give my phone number. You can say 5%. Oh gosh.

[C]

I know.

[B]

So maybe I should do that. Give them a fake number.

[C]

I guess I will pay the. Yeah, give them a fake number. They don't need the actual number. They just need a phone number.

[D]

But if they find out that it's a fake number. You don't save 5%. They charge you 5% extra.

[C]

Yes, they'll charge you more.

[B]

That's what I'm afraid of.

[C]

Yeah. I don't get why they all. I guess it's. And that's the thing is they're doing all this data harvesting for a reason. And people talk about how important the data economy is now and, and I don't know what, what's going to eventually happen with all this data. Why is it so valuable? Are they basically going to be with. With AI Is it going to get to be where they know our minds so much better? Than we do that we have zero shot of. Of ever making an honest purchase.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Thinking it's our idea because they've been targeting us, just subtly priming us for forever. And I know that all of advertising works on priming and framing and anchoring and all these psychological concepts, but we always used to at least feel like we had a fair shot against the advertisement working on us.

[B]

We also witnessed you in a standoff about giving your phone number for biographical information, and you accused them of. That they were going to sell it. Sir, we don't sell our numbers.

[D]

Yeah, that was awesome.

[C]

You know, but that's okay. I think you were right on this case. I was right on that one, too. And she was like, no one's ever asked me. Asked us that. Because I was asking, what do you use? What do you need the phone number for? And why do you.

[B]

We put it in our database.

[C]

Yeah, but I don't want it in the database.

[B]

Yeah, but that's where we put it.

[C]

Yeah, but I know that's where you put it, but I don't want it in the database. And do you sell this to anybody else?

[B]

No, we don't sell it in there.

[C]

We don't sell it to anyone else. We just share it with our valued partners. Wait a second now. That phrase is doing a lot of heavy lifting, in my opinion.

[B]

Valued partners share it.

[D]

You share it.

[C]

You don't sell it, but you just share it with your valued partners. I don't want it shared with the valued partners.

[D]

With your valued partners who pay you to be your partner.

[C]

Yes. Right. Well, they pay us for a partnership. Right? They pay you for my information? No, they don't pay for your information. They pay us for their partnership.

[B]

Boy, that was a merry go round. I didn't think we were going to be able to jump off of.

[C]

Frustrating.

[D]

All right, I've got one more pet peeve, and I think this is for me only. I don't think it applies to you guys, because I think you guys like doing this kind of stuff. And I've told my wife this repeatedly.

[C]

Oh, no, no.

[D]

Anything that we purchase, that is some assembly required. That is my maybe ultimate pet peeve. I cannot stand that. Back in the day, when you went to a furniture store and you saw an end table that you liked, you.

[C]

Could just buy that table.

[D]

You would buy that table, and you would either walk out with that table that was actually on the floor, or they would deliver that table to you. But now almost everything you go. You go to a furniture store. I'd like that end table. Okay. You can pick it up in back. And when I go in back, it's in a box with some assembly required.

[B]

That's not the table.

[D]

Recently, I've had to.

[C]

I was purchasing that table. Yes. This is that table. No, I mean that actual table. That's what I thought I was buying.

[D]

Recently I've had to assemble a bookcase, an end table, a bed.

[B]

Oh, beds are the worst.

[D]

Yeah. All of these now come with some assembly required. And my mind doesn't work that way. I don't like building things. I've never been a builder. I don't like assembling following instructions. They're always terrible. They were printed in Taiwan and they're very English.

[C]

Is really spotty if there's any on it. Yeah.

[B]

If you can find it the other side down.

[C]

On the other hand, mainly it's done in pictures now. Yeah.

[D]

Yes. And it's hard to follow now. Thank God. We also have YouTube videos, which I will. We all go to, who are terrible at putting stuff together. But I've told my wife, look, this always takes me two hours or three hours. That's a big chunk of my day, and I hate every second of it. Whatever you buy next that requires assembly, I will pay $1 million to some person to come and do that for me.

[C]

Let me be your assembly guy. Yeah. Giorgio and I are starting a new.

[D]

Business right now because it is such a beat down. I think it's my number one penny.

[C]

Okay. I'm torn between this because, like, I like building things and I like. So that doesn't bother me, but it does bother me on principle that it's, you know, I went into broadcasting and podcasting. I didn't go in to work on the final step of the assembly line here. You know, I feel like the companies are getting away with something. They outsource that final destination assembly to you.

[D]

When you buy a house or a car, it's not some assembly required.

[C]

Right.

[D]

You get that car ready to roll, you get that house ready to move into.

[C]

You buy a big house, but you got to do the tape, bed and texture on it. Right.

[B]

Have you ever done a. Assembled a gas grill before where there's like 300 parts?

[D]

I wouldn't even try.

[B]

I did that like 20 years ago. And anytime it's something like that now. Yes. Always pay to have it.

[C]

You don't like that when it says. It says, you know, number four bolt, 127 pieces.

[D]

Yeah. Wait a minute.

[B]

Is that four or five? That looks. Looks a lot. Like five.

[C]

Is the thread pitch a little different on them? I can't tell.

[D]

And the last couple things I've had to assemble, they've left a part or a bolt or a wrench. Yeah, they've been missing.

[B]

I found that, too, the last few times I've assembled. Maybe it's just my assembly, but I'm missing a part.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Or I have too many parts. Do they put an extra part in there for people like me?

[C]

Yeah, usually they'll put an extra part in just like one or two extra screws or bolts.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I mean, they don't put like an extra of grill top or something like that on there. Like an extra clamshell top.

[D]

That bed I just assembled was missing a big part. It was like a footboard or something, and I just put it together without it.

[C]

How. How's it standing?

[B]

Well, the frame still all the way around?

[D]

Yeah, the frame still was there. And yeah, everything else was fine. It was just. It was almost more ornamental. But it was a big part that should have been a part of it. Hate that so much. And I won the war against RBIs and I'm gonna fight this.

[C]

You didn't. There was no war.

[B]

Congratulations.

[D]

I' to get companies and manufacturers to. When you buy an item, it is given to you or delivered to you fully assembled.

[B]

I like it.

[C]

I also had my road trip to Atlanta recently. I was eating dinner at the hotel with one other person, and it had the gratuity included, like, for a party of two. I've seen it on big parties where they do the 18% gratuity already added to your bill. And then. But I had the option for additional gratuity, which is so nice of them to offer me that option.

[B]

Wow, what a great option.

[C]

So then it's like you figure up the extra 2%. That's difficult to do. Then you have to tip them more. And then I didn't want to tip more because now I'm pissed at. This is the whole problem is you get pissed at the company that's putting this on the receipts. But then what about that poor server doesn't have to take any shorts.

[B]

So did you put $10 or did you put 0.0?

[C]

No, I've added additional gratuity and I put it up under it begrudgingly.

[D]

You know what I'm going to try next time they do that. If they have the gratuity already included, and I don't like that. If there's a spot for additional gratuity, I'm going to put minus $5.

[C]

Really? You can subtract out and just see.

[B]

If that works off of my bill.

[C]

Why does it always have to be a positive figure there?

[B]

Why can't we do total down here? Free one. Very good. And neither was the service.

[C]

And I think it also had a service charge on top of top of all that. Yeah, so it had included gratuity and a service charge.

[D]

That's another great pet peeve. Service charges.

[B]

And should we have tips when we buy food at stadiums? Because we've heard that does not go to the people who are working hard behind that counter. It goes to the team.

[C]

I've heard that too, but I get. People yell at me every time I talk about tips. There are some people that get so ticked on. But it's like I was at a concert recently at the Merch Table, bought a like $120 sweatshirt and they spun the iPad around. I said, you can make one of these selections.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

My selections were 20%, 25% and 30% tip to the guy who reached in the cardboard box. The burnout that reached into that cardboard box and handed me a sweatshirt. There you go, dude. And the dude just made like 30 bucks off of handing me that out of the cardboard box.

[D]

Man, we just did an hour on pet peeves. Couldn't we seriously do four hours?

[B]

Probably so.

[C]

But not today.

[B]

No, that'd be about good for today.

[C]

Because I'm done talking today.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

Thanks, Peter Welton, our producer here at the Musers the podcast. And thank you to you, the listener. And hey, all of our back catalog, completely available to you for absolutely free. Free of charge.

[B]

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[C]

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