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George
Still love the laugh track. Really?
Gordon
Yeah, I still think it's funny on sitcoms. Are you talking about like our.
George
I guess just maybe I love it more with our use of it.
Gordon
Oh yeah. Making fun of it.
George
Yeah, yeah, I think it's really funny on radio. The crowd just gets behind a joke.
Gordon
There's war in Gaza. So I'm not really thinking about the laugh tracks and old sitcoms. Okay.
George
So sorry.
Craig
Welcome to episode 46 of the Musers the Podcast. I'm Craig.
George
Hey America. I love you. I'm George.
Gordon
That's way too much energy. I'm Gordon. Doing out there.
George
Way too little.
Craig
Thanks for joining us for what I think is going to be a very special edition of the Musers the Podcast. We've been getting a lot of questions about when listeners who were not at the Kessler the night that we recorded our live show are going to be able to hear that live show recording. Well, we recorded it a couple of weeks ago to commemorate our one year anniversary of the Musers the Podcast. So the first of the two live show episodes will drop on Wednesday, June 24th, which will be almost exactly our one year birthday of this podcast.
Gordon
We planned it that way and we
Craig
recorded two hours that night at the Kessler. So the second episode will release in two one hour episodes. The second episode will be released on July 8th, also a Wednesday. So June 24th. And yes, please, nice round of applause. June 24th and July 8th is when you'll get to hear the two hours that we did at the Kessler. And we didn't really talk much about this last week, but what a fun time we had that night.
Gordon
Magical.
George
Yeah, everyone was really nice and into it. We had a really good crowd and it was a lot of fun.
Craig
Sold it out. How about that?
Gordon
Yeah, sold out in three hours, which was amazing.
Craig
Which I think George thought we'd sell out. Gordo and I did not think we'd sell out and certainly didn't think we'd sell out in three hours.
Gordon
No, no. I thought there would still be tickets left over and we'd Be doing the panic pitch to people, you know, hey, tickets half off, man. Come on, it's free now.
Craig
Come on.
Gordon
I know. Or bring it in, you know, like a veterans group or something. For free. Fill out the seats.
George
But even if we only had like 100 or 150 people, I think it would have been fine.
Gordon
That's true.
George
I think that still would have been plenty of people, and we had close to 400, so it was great. And that, yeah, that venue, the Kessler, is just tremendous for doing either music or something like that. Like, we did a podcast, talked to
Craig
so many of our great podcast listeners that night. Everybody was in a good mood, happy to be there. So we can't thank you enough for being a part of that. And again, the first episode that we recorded that night will drop on Wednesday, June 24th. Yes. More applause of our choosing. A quick reminder that this podcast is brought to you by our friends at the George W. Bush Presidential center in Dallas and their Game Changers exhibit, which is running now through next January. And one of the featured athletes is the great Jesse Owens. And when I toured this exhibit last month, I saw, among other items, Jesse's personal photo books from the 1936 Olympic Games and two of his four gold medals that he won at those Games. His wins in 36 in Berlin, of course, may be the most historically significant achievement in sports history, as he defied the odds. He performed in front of Hitler and Nazi Germany, and he wins four gold medals. And as in keeping with the Game Changers exhibit, that performance demonstrated the power of sports to challenge injustice. George and I know firsthand about the Jesse Owens story because we starred in the Paramount Pictures made for television production, the Jesse Owens Story.
George
Yeah, it's almost like we know him just because we're so familiar with what happened all those years ago.
Gordon
When you say starred, what. What was your contribution to the film?
Craig
We were extras.
George
Extras. No speaking line.
Gordon
How much screen time did you. Do you think you got?
Craig
Very little.
George
Craig got the most. I got, I think 2.1 seconds. Craig got maybe up near 30 or 45 seconds.
Gordon
Really?
George
Yeah.
Craig
Yeah. So I was in. It was filmed at North Texas when we were in school there. And it was filmed there because Fouts Field, the old football stadium, still had a cinder track. In the 80s, it was the only cinder track in a big stadium anywhere in America.
Gordon
It's the only place that had not been updated.
George
Yes, it was it.
Craig
So I got to appear in about, yeah, four or five different scenes. There's one where they're coming back from commercial made for TV movie.
Gordon
Yeah.
Craig
And the camera is just on me running down the track for about five seconds. And then once the camera gets to Jesse and his coach, then it stops and I run out of frame. But that was probably my biggest moment.
George
Yeah, that was pretty big camera time there.
Craig
Another moment where Jesse's talking to his coach, played by Ronnie Cox, who I believe has passed away. I'm not sure about that.
George
Big Ronnie.
Gordon
What?
George
Wasn't that his name?
Gordon
Big Ronnie. What does Big Ronnie mean?
George
Big Ronnie Cox.
Craig
Don't know where you're going with that.
Gordon
I don't either.
Craig
But anyway, as the two of them are talking, I'm in the background stretching. Jerk.
George
And you're a jerk.
Craig
So, yes, we know a lot about Jesse because we starred in that movie.
George
We told everyone on campus that when they would ask what we did in the movie that we played Jesse's roommates. We almost made it sound like a sitcom that we were in with Jesse Owens.
Gordon
Very, very serious story.
Craig
Oh, there was another scene.
George
Punch you before this thing's over.
Craig
There was another scene where at a high school track meet, I'm one of the runners and I got in the lane right next to Jesse, who was played by Dorian Harewood.
George
Yes.
Craig
And so it's on me, because there were only three runners in the whole thing, just Jesse and the two on either side. So I got screen time there.
George
Yeah.
Gordon
Is that common for only three people to be running against each other?
Craig
No, there were eight, but the camera only caught three.
Gordon
The framing of it.
George
Yeah. And it was so funny. He was also in a scene where they filmed it at the Cotton bowl, and he was on a bus. And I think it was supposed to be the American team arriving in Berlin. And on the back of the bus, you could clearly see it was him because he was doing this crazy dance that he used to do. Is hand was going out, and he was really exaggerated on the back. It looked like Mick Jagger was on the back of the bus and it
Craig
made the final cut.
George
I can't believe they didn't say, okay, we can't. That guy's too ridiculous. No one would do that on a bus.
Gordon
And was there Nazi paraphernalia around?
Craig
There was in the background.
Gordon
So you've appeared with lots of Nazi
Craig
paraphernalia as a member of Team USA
George
in protest to it. Yes, yes.
Craig
So check that out. Jesse Owens. Not the Jesse Owens story. You can check that out, too. But check out all the Jesse Owens memorabilia and artifacts at the Game Changers exhibit. The Musers, the podcast Sponsored by the President George W. Bush Center's Game Changer exhibit. United by Sports. Visit today and learn more about the athletes and see the memorabilia that have changed the game. Now it's time for our letter of the week. And this comes to us from Brent in Austin. He says he is also known as the Eyepatch guy on our radio show.
Gordon
Huh.
Craig
Assuming he wears an eye patch and we labeled him the Eyepatch guy.
George
Okay.
Gordon
How creative of us.
Craig
He says. I love the podcast. Listening to episode 45 and you guys talked about the worry that a sports team puts on your life and how Gordo doesn't get involved in sports and because it takes too much out of him. The disappointment, the exhaustion, the wasted time, the absolute heartbreak of it all. Well, I'm 46 years old now, and I was lucky enough to grow up during the era of the triplets and those amazing Dallas Cowboys super bowl teams that won three in the 90s. You couldn't find a bigger or better Cowboys fan on the planet for 43 years of my life. When the Cowboys got steamrolled in the playoffs against Green Bay two years ago, I gave up. I now have four huge boxes of memorabilia sitting in my garage. I used to stand in front of the TV every game, just yelling and screaming either profanity or cheers. But I haven't watched a single game since. And my life is incredibly better for it. My health is better, I spend more time with my family and my blood pressure has normalized. Being able to step back and look at the ridiculousness of it all really gave me a sense of peace and well being. There are some days that I do miss the fun and excitement of game day, but I am so much better off without the worry.
Gordon
I love the letters that we get that tell me that I'm right.
George
That's one. That's one. There's obviously Jerry's still selling out a stadium. 90,000 barely at a time.
Craig
Right.
George
I do wonder how many Cowboy fans are like that. Maybe not that extreme that don't even watch anything anymore, but have just taken a big step back with their investment of time.
Gordon
I've always found like that you can find the score online the next day. So in most cases to watch the game.
Craig
Yeah, yeah, I think there are. It depends on the team. Of course, if your team is currently winning championships, you're probably all in. But For Cowboys fans, 30 years of heartbreak, I mean, that gets pretty old after a while.
George
Yeah, and I think they get fed up and especially where Jerry should be concerned about it on the on the money side of it, if people stop selling out the stadium, which we haven't gotten, seem to be a problem.
Gordon
If the Cowboys get in the Super Bowl. I'll watch.
Craig
Okay.
Gordon
For the commercials.
Craig
For the commercials and the halftime show.
Gordon
Yeah.
Craig
All right, Brent, thank you for our letter of the week. We also got this email from Steve and Waco. I'm surprised I even have to suggest this, but I keep waiting for an episode devoted to Craig's squared away list. I think it's been quite a while since the last update. Let's make that happen soon. Well, Steve, your wait is over because this week's topic is being squared away. Thank you.
Gordon
Thank you. Very limited studio audience.
Craig
Be seated. Be seated. Many years ago, I came up with this list and this idea of things that make you feel squared away. And we did this first on the radio show, and now it's ready to bring to the podcast. And I came up with my core four things that you do to make you feel like your life is a bit more orderly. And if you've never attempted to become more squared away, this is a good place to start with my core four. Just get one of them done. If you can get all four of them done over the next month, then you're in great shape. But the core four are getting a haircut. Don't you always feel so much better about life once you get a haircut?
Gordon
Yeah, and I'm struggling with that right now. I've been needing one for about three weeks. Keep putting it off. Yeah, I got horrible flop hair. It's way too long. I'm very Tom Hanks and castaway looking right now.
Craig
I mean, there is the odd time that you get a poor haircut and then you don't feel squared away.
George
Yes. And I guess I've been through that a lot of shared that when my dad used to cut my hair as a kid, and finally, remember I told that most embarrassing moments, you know, and the girl behind me taps me on the shoulder in eighth grade. Who cuts your hair? Yeah, my dad.
Craig
That was bad.
George
That was terrible. And I've had poor haircuts through the years. So, yeah, a lot of times you do feel good. And then sometimes you're just like, man, do they know how to do this? Or is my hair just eternally bad?
Gordon
Your hair always looks the same to me.
George
Yeah, it's okay.
Gordon
Do you ever change? Have you ever. When was the last time you changed a hairstyle other than the mohawk that you had for because you lost a bet?
George
The only major change I Think is when I started parting it on the left side. The left side instead of the right.
Gordon
How many years did you go with the right side part?
George
About 30 some. Odd.
Gordon
Really.
George
And then I finally said, seems like most people parted on that side. Maybe ought to do it on that side.
Gordon
I thought you were supposed to go with whatever your natural, more natural part is.
George
I think it is, but it seems like.
Gordon
But you went with the crowd. You said that most of your friends.
George
I just thought. I just thought, well, maybe my problem is I'm parting it the wrong way. So I started parting it on the left. I don't know if it's helped.
Craig
Have you guys ever heard that you parted on the side of your political leaning? Like conservatives parted on the right and liberals parted on the left?
Gordon
No. Is that true?
Craig
I mean, that's a thing people talk about.
Gordon
I bet you that's a correlation, not a causation thing. I bet you that, like, George, you partnered on the side that you, of the people that you see the most.
Craig
Yeah.
Gordon
And if you consort with people of the same leaning as you, you're noticing that everyone's kind of doing this. So you subconsciously parted on that same side.
Craig
Don't you also the way your hair grows, Don't a lot of people have a natural side?
Gordon
That's what I thought.
George
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Craig
Like, I've always parted on the right, but about five years ago, my barber said, why don't we do something different? Let's part it on the left. And I've been.
Gordon
You don't have any part, right?
Craig
Yeah, not really. I just kind of run my hair fingers through it every day and then it happens.
Gordon
Yeah. You're just so short. You don't have to flop it over to one side.
Craig
Right, Right. So that's number one on the core four that you can do to feel squared away. Number two is getting a professional teeth cleaning. Not doing it yourself, but getting your teeth professionally cleaned makes you feel great.
George
Yeah. It's supposed to be every six months, right?
Craig
Yep. Because they use all that professional toolage, that brush.
Gordon
Is it really professional when they're still using that scrape fork?
Craig
Feels like it.
Gordon
That is. That seems so medieval to me.
George
I know there's gotta be something they could do with. I mean, some sort of hydraulic pick or something that would work better than that.
Gordon
They use all this high tech, you know, water blasting with the latest and fine unicorn tears and all that kind of stuff. Like, I have a dentist that uses all the latest high tech stuff. But then at the end they go back over their work with that stupid pick to get any tartar that they find. And that just seems like, how is that protecting my enamel?
Craig
Right.
George
Do they not trust people to do that on their own? Have their own metal pick that they work on their teeth?
Craig
I wouldn't want to do that on myself.
Gordon
Gosh, it's so violent.
George
I know.
Gordon
Creeps me out.
Craig
Number three on the list is mowing and edging your lawn. Don't you feel great after that's done?
Gordon
After edging?
George
I think that's. I don't even know what that is. I think that's. I think that's number one on my list.
Craig
Is it?
George
Yeah. And some of it is. It kind of hangs over my head because we have a pretty big lot to cut and.
Gordon
Oh, boy, here he goes.
George
Well, it is bigger than any yard you've ever cut over there, Mr. Lawnmower.
Gordon
Yeah. I'm not as wealthy as you, George. Way to rub it in.
George
Okay. Yeah.
Craig
Gordo. Why do you insist.
George
Darn thing.
Craig
Why do you insist on calling yourself Mr. Lawnmower?
Gordon
George is labeled me that.
George
He's got 80 of them.
Gordon
Yeah, I. I have to get old dilapidated lawnmowers and fix them up because I can't afford these expensive riding lawnmowers that you. You're on all the time that you take from your living room to your kitchen to get another sandwich.
Craig
George's lawnmowers are all Bentleys.
Gordon
They are. They're so fancy.
George
No, no, no. Got a John Deere and a Toro.
Gordon
And a Toro.
George
Two high level one's a push mower and one's a riding lawnmower and a weed eater.
Craig
Aren't those each like $300,000?
George
No, they're not. You can get them much for a much reasonable price than that. Maybe a couple thousand.
Gordon
Much reasonable price.
George
Much more reasonable than the. The Roddy lawnmower is a couple thousand. I'm gonna start buying my push mowers from Gordo. Or stealing them.
Gordon
Wow. I've got a lot of great ones. I got some classics. The old John Deere series. Walk behind mowers from the 90s. They were fantastic machines and they were like $1,000 new back in the early 90s. So I don't know what inflation wise is, but can you imagine paying like $2,000 for a walk behind push lawnmower?
George
No, because it's crazy. Like, most back then were like 200 bucks, maybe even less than that.
Gordon
Yeah, but they're great. They're still around. And I always. When I see one, I'll buy one and recondition it and fix it up, put a new braid blade break clutch on it.
George
You were doing all that?
Gordon
Yeah, they're, they're great machines and they don't, they don't make them that well anymore. So you know, in a lot of ways the 90s was kind of a real sweet spot for life because you not only had the cars in the 90s and I would say on into the mid aughts, somewhere in there was, was when cars were less technical and loaded down with too much technology, but they were really, really well made and so they were really highly regarded that period of time and in our automotive history and the same with like lawnmowers and stuff like that. They were great back in those days and they built them very, very stout. So interesting. There's a little, little nugget for you.
Craig
So like we talked about a few weeks ago, you're like Gen Z, you want to go back to the 90s.
Gordon
That's right.
Craig
It's a sweet spot.
Gordon
Yeah.
Craig
All right. Number four on my core four list of things that you can do to make your life feel more orderly. And I think this is the most important, this is the most impactful. Get brand new underwear. Across the board you have. How many pair of underwear do you guys have? 15 or 20.
Gordon
I'd say about 15, 60 or 70. Really?
George
Yeah. Wow.
Craig
There's no way I've got about 20 because I have to wash every two weeks. And I think you should switch that out about every two to three years. I think if you're getting into five years with the same underwear, I think that's a bad thing. I think about every three years would be the sweet spot. And what I do is I order 20 brand new pairs, same kind. I've been wearing jockey briefs my entire life.
Gordon
You ought to experiment a new underwear, underwear technologies. There's a lot of great higher end underwear.
Craig
I have a little bit, I've got a few pairs that are. What's the boxer brief? It's the combo. Yeah, it's not a boxer, but it's a boxer.
Gordon
Yeah, but that's a style. I'm talking about like a, like a brand of underwear. Yeah, that's a little bit better than just your, you know, Target Special. Although Target actually I think has a good line of underwear with their, what's it called? Pair of Thieves or something like this is their upper end brand.
Craig
I'm very, I'm very comfortable with my Jockeys because they're just. That's what I'm used to.
Gordon
Yeah, but then you get the silk kind of fiber. That feels so good.
Craig
Keep talking.
Gordon
Yeah, no, not that way.
Craig
But what I do is every three years I get 20 new pair and then I take the old 20. 20 pairs and I burn them.
Gordon
Yeah. Turns into an eternal flame.
Craig
Yes.
George
You still burning three or three weeks?
Craig
Every three years. The eternal flame in my backyard gets more fuel with the three year old underwear that I put in there. But you have to burn those.
George
Well, I don't think I've ever gone like a full roster replacement of like 15. It seems like it's usually, you know, whatever. What are they coming up.
Gordon
You just address a need when there is one. No, no.
George
After a blowout, I would say like six at a time and then get rid of the six that are the oldest that you have and then kind of do it like that.
Craig
Take it from me. Switch them all out at once. You will feel so great.
George
Okay.
Gordon
Yeah.
George
Your entire roster.
Craig
The whole roster.
George
Okay.
Gordon
I'm going to do that this week.
Craig
Okay.
George
There's no way you'll follow up on that.
Gordon
Do you have like a coupon code or something? If you type Craig in, you get. Yes, 10% off your entire roster turnover.
Craig
Type Craig in and use the promo code. Golf.
Gordon
What?
Craig
And you'll get 20 new pair of underwear.
Gordon
I don't understand that reference.
George
Or try eternal flame. That may work too.
Craig
All right, we should tell that story for those that don't know the reference. We had Ed2 Tall Jones once.
Gordon
Who is that?
Craig
He's a Cowboys legend.
Gordon
Played football.
Craig
Played football for the Dallas Cowboys. Defensive end. And he was out at this golf tournament and he was promoting this golf tournament and he said if you would like a free round of bowling.
Gordon
No, it was. You can go to. It was like you could go to golf.com and type in Too Tall Jones and you get a free. A free coupon for bowling?
Craig
Yeah, something like that.
George
Really?
Gordon
Just a mixture of, I don't know, a football guy promoting golf where you could get free bowling.
George
He got a bowling alley to help him out with his golf tournament and a golf. Some sort of golf initiative. And they just threw that in there.
Gordon
Okay, fine with that. It's just. He confused us all. He said that.
Craig
All right, so over the years, as we've been talking about being squared away, the list has. Has grown. Started with those core four, but we've added a lot to it. So anything that you guys want to add, jump in with what makes you feel squared away. But some of the few Items that were immediately added once we started talking about this. Cleaning out your garage.
George
Yes.
Gordon
Oh, yes.
Craig
And I don't do this often enough.
George
Well, I didn't either until about two years ago. And I told you guys on our radio show, we hired an organizer, which she stays busy because so many people go through this where it's like, it's paralyzing to us. You go out and you think, gosh, I don't know, maybe three. Throw that away. I mean, that was my son's. Whatever. His first bat or, you know, his third bike or whatever it is. But she was so good as to keep. Donate. Throw away. And she was good in helping us make those decisions. When's the last time you used that yard tool? 10 years ago. Okay, let's donate it.
Craig
Okay.
George
And that's good.
Craig
You need somebody like that.
George
Yes, we did. Now, maybe some people can easily go do the same thing, but I think it really helps. And she helped us with our garage, our closets, my wife's office, which is a very small area, but almost broke. The organizer. There was so much stuff in there.
Gordon
What was in there?
George
Just pictures and files. And, you know, she does all the paperwork for her family, and she hangs on to things, schoolwork, and there was all sorts of stuff that was in there. It was just a dumping ground of things from our life from the last 30 years or so. But I would say since then, we've done a much better job of staying organized in our garage and our closets. We still have some more to take on. Our attic's another story. We got to do that at some point.
Gordon
Yeah. Just burn that. Burn the attic and just rebuild it. Yeah. The garage is, like, for. For a guy like me who loves old lawnmowers and crap like that, you know, like, the garage should be the place that is most squared away. And it is the least squared away in my life. I can't stand my garage right now because it is so chock full of things that are not cars.
Craig
Yeah.
Gordon
And that's what it should be.
George
Yes.
Gordon
Is you should have your car in there, and you should have room to work on your car and room for my tools. I've just got too many tools and everything's in disarray and disorganized right now.
Craig
Aren't you envious when you go into somebody's garage and they've got the tools mounted on the wall? Perfect order.
Gordon
And it's clean. Everything is in its place and readily available, you know, because. And this happens inside the home as well as inside the garage. But people will be able to identify with this experience. I can't tell you how many times that I'm just. All right, I'll just. I know I have four of this tool, but I can't put my hands on it. And so I just go and I buy another one at the store for a job that I got to do that afternoon.
Craig
Yes.
George
When we organized the garage, I found out I had five hammers.
Gordon
I wish I only had five hammers.
George
Oh, my gosh. But she's really good about that too. About how you organ. You can hang on to a lot of things, but if you organize them properly.
Gordon
Yeah.
George
Like hanging them on a pegboard or, you know this. She bought these shelves that have wheels on them so you could change and put it on another side of the garage if you wanted to. It just. It's very logical stuff.
Gordon
What are shelves that have wheels on them? What is that?
George
Like metal shelves? And they have. Yeah, they have wheels on them. And they're. They're. I'd say they're like a metal wire shelf.
Gordon
Okay. It's like 4D, not attached shelves.
George
Yes.
Gordon
I was thinking wall shelves.
George
Oh, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Non attached and. Yeah. So you can move them around if you need to. And the wheels lock. And it's really. It really helped us.
Gordon
It changed your life totally.
George
Well, it made us feel squared away for sure. And yeah, I'll probably wait till the cooler weather gets here to get to the attic. But we've got to get to the attic. That is just the biggest dumping ground of memorabilia, old furniture, old toys, and it's just a mess.
Craig
Cleaning things or cleaning things out. That made the list several times. Of things that make you feel squared away. Like washing your car.
Gordon
That's on my list. Yeah, washing your car. I've recently gotten a new car of my choosing. And. And I've been doing the craziness of. I wash this thing at least every week, Sometimes twice a week.
Craig
Wow.
Gordon
Boy. Because I've never done. I've never done these no rinse washes. Have you even experimented with this stuff?
George
No rinse.
Gordon
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, you just. I mean, I can use. I can wash a whole car with just two gallons of water. And it's incredible. Looks. Looks fantastic. And explain this.
George
What are you talking about here? So you.
Gordon
You basically, I get two gallons of distilled water, put it in a bucket that has a grit catcher at the bottom, and you use, you know, the sponge that's recommended for the no rinse chemical. And and yeah, you just, you spray it down. You get a sprayer, you'll spray down your car with this, no rinse solution, which is I think dilution of 256 to 1. And spray down your entire car. And then you go through with that sponge and you just do a section at a time. You know, divide the car up into quarters or eighths and you wipe it just once across with the sponge. And then you wipe it with a drying towel. Microfiber drying towel. And perfect.
Craig
Wow.
Gordon
Looks great.
Craig
I didn't think that was possible.
Gordon
Yeah, yeah.
George
So you don't get the brush scratches from a car.
Gordon
You don't get brush scratches and all that stuff. And you don't get, you don't waste a whole bunch of water, which we used to do with the old way. It's a great way to maintain your car. You know, every once in a while you got to go in and I'm trying. I'm also going to learn how to do a proper foam wash as well. You know, I just think we. I learned car washing from my dad and I've since learned that all those things are bad. The brushes he used to use on the car is not good for the paint. And, and yeah, you just. And yeah, he would dry it with like house towels as opposed to microfiber towels. I still remember micro towels being a
George
thing people that I knew of not
Craig
until 20 years ago, way back in the day. Anyway, car related. What about putting four new tires on the car? Doesn't that make you feel great?
George
Yes, it does.
Gordon
Love it. Every time I get my oil changed and my car washed, I swear the thing drives better.
Craig
Yes.
Gordon
It just, all of a sudden the thing just feels completely different to me. Just having a clean car and knowing that you've done one positive act to take care of the engine, like changing the oil.
George
Yes. And even that next step, after you have new tires and then whatever it is, four or 5,000 miles later, you have them rotated. I can tell the difference when I do that because it's usually more than four or five thousand miles when I rotate them.
Gordon
A note. When you have new tires, just be warned, you know, the first couple hundred miles, you know, their traction is not correct. You just have to be a little bit more careful with it. Brand new tire, really? Yeah, until they get, you know, scuffed and their full traction will, will kick in.
Craig
Okay.
Gordon
You have to break in new tires. And also on the oil change thing, my little public services. Don't, don't go the 10,000 miles. I know that your manufacturer says you can go that long and maybe even the oil change place will try to tell you, oh yeah, if you get the synthetic, you can go 10,000 miles. Don't go that long. Get full synthetic, but half, whatever the recommended time is, go half of that. Okay, you'll spend more money, but you'll preserve the car much better. Like I just did an oil change in my driveway on a car that did go 10,000 miles and the oil that came out of that thing. No car should have experienced that.
George
Looks like tariff. Tomorrow morning is knocking. Stock your fridge now. How about a creamy mocha frappuccino drink? Or a sweet vanilla smooth caramel maybe? Or white chocolate mocha?
Gordon
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Craig
All right, here's one that's been on my list that I think you guys may disagree with. I think we all agree with the first part of this. Getting all your bills paid makes you feel squared away. But I've always also liked the feeling of balancing my checkbook. I know that's very old school.
Gordon
Just. I don't even know what that is,
Craig
but I still do that probably once a week. I go through and I balance my checkbook, and I love it.
Gordon
That is just crazy to me that you even waste time doing that.
Craig
Who's keeping the bank accountable if you're not doing it?
George
There's no way they'd mess it up.
Craig
Yeah, you can't just completely trust what the bank says online. You have to keep them accountable.
Gordon
Okay, so let's say you keep them accountable and you say, okay, I did some figuring, and I put a pen to paper in the back of this little dinky check register, and I figured out that you guys are 67 cents off over the past three months.
Craig
I wouldn't bother them for that, but if it was $6,700 off, you have
Gordon
never found them being off that much.
Craig
Or have I?
Gordon
You have not.
Craig
I just haven't gone public with it.
Gordon
You know that you haven't. And even if you found that they were $20 off, you're going to call them up and they're going to say, no, the system. We know exactly how much is in your account, and this is correct.
Craig
I just like knowing that I'm keeping them accountable. I've never had
Gordon
to do anything. If you did call them.
Craig
Oh, we'll. We'll let the judge handle that.
Gordon
There's no judge. I'm saying. I'm saying the. The flaw in your system is that you never do discover a discrepancy.
Craig
Not yet.
Gordon
Number one.
Craig
Not yet.
Gordon
Number two, even if you did discover it, they would not remedy it by just changing it to whatever figure you say is accurate.
Craig
I think they would. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Gordon
Holy ways. No, I don't agree to disagree.
George
You like working on. He likes balancing his checkbook. It just. It makes him feel good and makes him feel squared away.
Gordon
Okay.
Craig
Yeah. Why can't you just leave me alone?
George
Yeah,
Gordon
because I'm paid to mess with you, that's why.
Craig
What about having all laundry washed, folded, and put away? Yeah, that makes me feel squared away.
Gordon
I can wash it and dry it, but I don't really fold it and put it away. I just put it in a big pile in the Chair and then I just sift through it.
George
You're one of those.
Gordon
Yep.
George
A chair is not a dresser.
Gordon
Everything's a dresser if you're imaginative enough.
George
Yeah. That's always a good feeling. And then when those. When your sheets are clean and a freshly made bed.
Craig
Yes.
George
I don't know why it gets so out of whack after two sleeps, but it doesn't feel as good as it does that first night of sleep.
Craig
Right. That's a good one.
Gordon
I think I'm a violent sleeper.
George
I must be too, because if I
Gordon
don't address the bed before I get in it, like if I go even just two or three nights and it looks like somebody. Somebody came in and had to do a paramedic rescue of someone on this bed because everything's in disarray and torn up and out of place.
George
Yeah. Well, you may be.
Gordon
There's blood everywhere and there's like cut
Craig
bandages and there shouldn't be blood everywhere.
Gordon
It's like someone cut the jeans off of someone. There's cut jeans.
George
Do you think you have restless leg?
Gordon
I don't know. What is that again? We've. We've talked about it before, but it's. It's not as stupid as we thought it was to begin with. Restless leg syndrome?
George
Yeah.
Gordon
We always thought it was just someone bouncing their leg up and down.
Craig
Right.
Gordon
And that's. It's not that.
George
No, it's not that. It's sudden movements in. In your sleep and I guess it's subconscious.
Gordon
Like you punt in your sleep. You'll grab a Nerf ball and punt.
George
Yeah, kind of.
Gordon
Huh?
George
Yeah. Look into it.
Craig
So you can wake up with a 42 yard average.
George
Maybe. If you're good. Yeah, You're a good punter.
Gordon
Didn't you get restless leg syndrome or something? Or you knew somebody who.
George
I know somebody who has it. Yeah. And it's. I can't tell you much about it now, but there's something to it. Look into it.
Gordon
Very vague and expert.
George
Like it's not like a serious thing, but it is something. Something you ought to pay attention to and it may be a sign of something else.
Gordon
Doesn't it also have like nerve neuropathy associated with it or maybe.
George
Yeah, it has some other. Some other medical condition that's attached to it or could. Not always, but could.
Craig
It's not anxiety related, where you're full of anxiety, so you're nervously.
George
No, no, no.
Craig
It's not working your leg.
George
It's when you're asleep and you're kicking 38 yard field goals.
Craig
Here's another medical one on my list of things that make you feel squared away. A prostate exam or colonoscopy with good results.
George
Yes. Yes.
Gordon
That's key.
Craig
That's the key.
George
That's the. That's the key on that.
Craig
But that makes you feel pretty good. You're like, ah, okay, now I've bought a few more years.
Gordon
Gosh. And I. You know, it's amazing how people don't take that seriously enough. I was talking to a woman the other day who had never had a prostate examination. I'm like, you're crazy, man. You're really rolling the dice.
Craig
Why? I'm glad you told her. Jeez.
George
Gordon enjoys them a little too much. He's been having them since he was 21.
Gordon
I pay extra for the extended prostate exam. And I even bring my own music and everything.
Craig
Your own music? How creeped out with the doctor be.
Gordon
I turn it into a rain.
George
Get a little music going right now. Okay. Go ahead.
Gordon
Electronic dance music And I'm wearing the. The surgeon's mask with VapoRub in it. And I'm just mollying my ass off.
George
All sorts of bingos in there.
Craig
You know what I think my most recent prostate exam. I think the nurse remained in the room. A female nurse.
Gordon
Yeah. And I have a problem with this.
George
That was awesome. You have to have a witness, right?
Gordon
Like, yeah, that's the thing. My doctor's office has that where they. Anytime you get your balls fondled or your prostate loved on, they have to have a nurse in the room. And isn't there a way to opt out? I want to opt out of that.
George
It's medical.
Gordon
I'm like, I'll take my chances with the sexual assault just to not have the hot nurse in the room.
Craig
So the hot nurse heard you moaning your last exam?
George
Yeah.
Gordon
And I didn't want to hear what kind of severe pleasure I was in.
George
Oh, my gosh.
Gordon
Well, are you comfortable with the nurse in the room?
George
It's medical. Yeah, it's fine. I was really comfortable that time I went in for heat exhaustion in the. Yeah. And the nurse was really hungry.
Gordon
This is a creepy story.
George
It's not that creepy.
Gordon
You said that she was absolutely the hottest.
George
She's maybe the prettiest woman I'd ever seen in my life. Yeah. Wow.
Craig
How lucky were you?
George
Yeah. And she spent basically all night with me, checking on me.
Craig
And gave you a sponge bath.
Gordon
No, he kept trying to stay in there.
George
I don't think I should be released. I really don't.
Craig
He Was laying on the nurse call button the whole night.
Gordon
Yeah. Pressing the call button. She comes in. Yeah, can I help you?
George
I don't really know how to work this remote.
Craig
Yeah, I just.
Gordon
I don't know. I just called you. What are you doing? What are you up to? What's your situation? Married?
George
Yeah. My wife happened to be with me. She's the one who took me to the hospital. And she came in.
Gordon
She requested you nurse?
George
No. Darn near. When she came in the first time and then left, she looked at me and said, you have got to be kidding me. I didn't choose her. They assigned her to me. I can't help it.
Gordon
See, I think you scouted it out and knew the place to go to fake the whole heat exhaustion thing and just to where she would have to bring you back to health.
George
That is not true. But a friend of mine and I have talked about maybe going up there and having lunch in the commissary.
Craig
Just.
George
Hey, they got great Salisbury steak up there. It's a great place to go.
Craig
Hey, I'll go. You've built her up so much. I want to see her now.
Gordon
See her.
George
All right. Thursday is Salisbury steak day, so.
Gordon
Okay, yeah, we'll go eat at the hospital.
Craig
Hey, how about this one? This is also a cleaning one, but it's electronic cleaning. Cleaning out your email folder. Cleaning out your inbox. Do you guys ever do that?
Gordon
No, only when I told you at work.
George
Because it's full. I'm sorry, man. These things are bouncing back. Okay, yeah, go empty my folders.
Gordon
Gosh, I don't even know. Like, I think my Gmail account, it's like 76,000 unread messages or something like that.
George
Oh, my.
Craig
So I do crazy. I do an okay job of thinning mine out, but mine, I'm looking at it right now. I have 8376 messages in my inbox, and I've read, you know, almost all of them. But I very bad about going back and deleting the ones that I don't need anymore because it's too much of a task. Yeah, and you don't want to hit delete all because you're afraid you're deleting some important ones.
George
Yeah, that's just way too much.
Craig
Here's a deep cleaning one. Deep cleaning your grill. You guys ever do that? The outdoor grill?
Gordon
I don't have a grill.
Craig
Yes, I've done that recently, and it made me feel great.
George
It's a lot of work, especially if you let it go for a while. I'm thinking maybe you should do that once a year.
Craig
Yeah.
Gordon
I thought that was the seasoning.
George
That great taste.
Gordon
It's flavor in there.
Craig
There's something to that. I kind of have always thought that too.
Gordon
Yeah.
George
But now you have a built in grill.
Craig
No,
Gordon
you've got one of those.
Craig
God, he's got.
Gordon
I just. I don't understand your world.
Craig
Luxury items.
George
Baller's ball. I've been telling you.
Gordon
I've been to your place. You have that outdoor kitchen thing, but
George
a grill that's barely working because it needs to be cleaned. And I just hadn't gotten around to it.
Gordon
All that gristle's been dripping down in there.
George
It's a mess.
Gordon
Clogged everything up.
George
I think the last time it got this bad, I just went and got another grill.
Gordon
Oh, gosh.
George
Why don't you get into grill cleaning and come out and clean our grill?
Gordon
I've never been into grilling stuff. I know that's a real typical guy thing and guys get way into it and it's a whole fascinating topic, but I just. It never interested me and I never got into it and. And I feel better for it by not getting into it.
George
Yeah. Because much as you like hamburger, I
Gordon
think it would be too frustrating to me because it'd be some learning curve. And there is. And you spend so much money on great steaks and then you mess them up. And that would frustrate me.
George
Ye. Decent enough where I can do that. I've cooked enough over the years for kids and. And their friends and family members. I'm decent at it. But yeah, I got to get my grill going.
Gordon
Wasn't it when you were over your grill that time where some punk teenager said, hey, Je, is my chicken ready yet?
George
He did well. Called you by your nickname, sunglasses and smoking a cigar.
Gordon
You were shirtless and smoking a cigar.
George
He was. He was. It was a graduation party. Yeah.
Gordon
High school senior.
George
Taking these kids out on the lake. And we had a great day. And now it's the end of a day and I'm cooking them their second meal of the day. And he just wanted to ask me. Didn't call me. George said, job. Hey, Job. Chicken ready yet?
Craig
Wearing sunglasses and smoking a cigar.
George
Jeff, your chicken's not ready yet, but I'll be sure and let you know, chief.
Craig
So he was peaking in life. Yeah.
Gordon
Yeah.
Craig
He just thought he was top of the mountain.
Gordon
He was on the success mountain. He had just summited.
George
Right.
Gordon
And you were the Sherpa who was a little too slow for him.
George
Yes, Yes. I needed to let him know when chicken was ready.
Gordon
Yeah,
George
y' all love that story. I think that's Yalls favorite story is me getting served by an 18 year old.
Gordon
Owned you, man.
George
It was funny. And to this day he's in his 30s now. He's a father now and he still shakes his head every time he sees me and say I'm sorry.
Gordon
So he cringes at his former self he was having.
George
And I look back at as like, you know what, I probably shouldn't have told the story on the air. He was having a good day. He was graduating, he's going on to
Gordon
college and had he had a few brews or something?
George
No, I wasn't letting him drink or anything. He was just, he was drunk on life.
Gordon
Gordon. Hey Jeb, is my chicken ready yet?
George
I have several hats at home that some, some guys who own a hat company have made me some things like that like, hey Je, is my chicken ready? And still ski on the weekends and stuff like.
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Craig
guys have any on your personal list that we haven't addressed? Because I know we have a lot here.
Gordon
Yeah, you covered some of mine. The getting the car serviced and washed and cleaned. That's a big one for me. And you touched upon the prostate exam and all that stuff. I just put physical. I always feel better after I get a physical and see the blood work come back and, and realize that my cholesterol is not 1400 or something like that.
Craig
Right.
Gordon
When you, when you get the physical and you cross that off your list, it always settles my mind quite a bit.
George
When you get it back and see mixed results, you're kind of going, okay, yeah, change some habits.
Craig
Doesn't make you feel squared away.
Gordon
Comes back in with a Long printout. A lot of things that are highlighted in red.
George
About this reminds me of being in school. See me about this. Something circled. Yeah, that's not always good. And yeah, the. The car one's a big one about cleaning or in my case, a truck. Do you ever have those times where not only do you go a long time without washing or vacuuming out the inside, but you go a long time and whatever you're doing. Like, I recently was really busy with several events, including a charity concert. We had our live show and I looked around one day and I thought, I've been living in this truck for two weeks because you do something, you leave your gig bag in or you leave. I had several props for a silent auction, including fishing poles and all sorts of notes. And it looks like I've been living in my truck. Still does. I got to do something about it.
Gordon
And yes, the entire contents of a flea market inside your truck.
George
Yes. And it just makes you feel defeated. And just like the dirty garage, you don't. It's almost overwhelming. You don't know where to start. It's like, yeah, I guess I'll vacuum it myself. Or should I just take all my personal items out of it and let someone detail it? Because every have the detail. Rarely, but very rarely. Yeah, that.
Gordon
That is amazing.
George
Feel squared away because you don't have to invest two hours or whatever that takes. Someone else does. And then you have what looks like a new car. Yeah.
Gordon
Boy. My mom frustrated my dad so much because, you know, his famous line about her was, your mom treats this car as a rolling trash can.
George
I have reused that.
Gordon
And he could not stand that I worked so hard and spent so much money on these cars and she treats it as a rolling trash can. And. And yeah, I remember one time my mom opened up the trunk to put something in it and it was completely full. And she had been carrying around these newspapers. She was going to drop them off to recycling, and she hadn't gotten around to it yet. And I'm talking about there was so much paper. Newspaper. Because they used to take the physical newspaper and all that. And I guess we didn't have recycling at the time. So this is a while back. Anyway, she'd been driving around for a year and a half with about 200 pounds of newspaper in the back.
George
How much?
Gordon
And things. Yeah, she was just. No Wonder she's getting 16 miles to the gallon.
George
Yeah. You used to take your. Your newspapers to the big recycling thing.
Gordon
Yeah.
Craig
Forgot all about doing that.
Gordon
Take two seconds for her to drop them off and she didn't. She drove around that way.
George
The whole trunk.
Gordon
The whole trunk just full of them. Yeah.
Craig
You know, one thing I did a
Gordon
couple trip in that car, if we tried.
Craig
One thing I did a couple years ago that really made me feel squared away. I borrowed my neighbor's power washer.
Gordon
Oh, power washer. There's a whole man. Men and power washers. That's one of the greatest things ever. Is when we discovered those we take on the world. Yes.
George
It's one of those things.
Craig
I power wash not only the bricks and mortar lines on the house, but I power washed the driveway. And my God, what a feeling.
Gordon
So great, so pleasing to watch. Watch that wand go across it and just that gleaming white concrete show up again.
Craig
Yes.
George
Yeah, I love the power washer. I. I think I told you that when I first got my first one. I don't know, I was in my 30s or something and I felt that same way. And I felt the same way ever since. You may have 87 lawnmowers. I have three different power washers.
Gordon
Wow.
George
Yeah, one's like a. Like a. Not quite industrial grade because it's not gasoline powered, but it's bigger and yeah, I can take. I can take on the world.
Gordon
Wow.
Craig
Yeah, that sounds great.
George
I thought about notifying our US Military to see if they needed any help. One of my power washers.
Gordon
I'm about to get me a couple other power washers. I only have the big industrial grade Honda engine with a cat pump on it and all that kind of stuff. I have that.
George
So you can really.
Gordon
Yeah, but I want to get an electric one too.
George
Yeah.
Gordon
And I want to get a smaller one for car detailing and things like that. But yeah, the electric power washer. A lot of people just move to that and that's enough for most people's needs, I think.
George
Or battery. Batteries becoming a factor now in everybody's world. In the power washing world. Anyway.
Gordon
Yeah. You ever watch power washing porn?
Craig
No.
George
No.
Craig
Sounds good though.
Gordon
Yeah. I think there's a whole subreddit of people just posting videos. Patio that just various things that are cleaned with power washers go on YouTube. Watch some of it. It's great. It's so pleasing to watch it.
George
Okay.
Craig
Interesting. I got to get my own. I borrow my neighbors all the time, but I got to get my own.
Gordon
Oh, yeah.
Craig
I want something fairly powerful, but not so powerful that it takes the paint off the house.
Gordon
Yes. That's the other thing. Control the flow of those things because you can. You need to do have the appropriate amount of pressure for what you're washing.
George
And don't do that in sandals either.
Gordon
Do not do it in sandals. Absolutely not. You need to protect yourself because if you ever cross your foot with a power washer, you can get the worst infection of your life. Because that stuff just. It blasts right into your foot. All that. All that non sterile water and it boils up under the surface. It is so gross. That is one of some of the grossest injuries ever, those power washer injuries.
George
Yeah, you don't want.
Craig
That sounds awful. Are you guys gardeners? Because weeding your flower bed or your garden makes you feel great. I have a very small vegetable garden. It's six by six or something.
Gordon
Yep. That's going to be run over by a lawnmower at my.
Craig
Oh, man, I love it. And I love weeding it. Once you get all the weeds out and it's just the fresh soil and the veggies feel so good.
George
Yeah, we've really let go our garden. We had it going during the pandemic and we've just kind of let it go. And as for flower beds, I've. I've outsourced that.
Craig
Okay.
Gordon
Really?
George
I have someone messing with weeds now. Weeds drove me crazy. Yeah, I hate picking weeds. That's the one thing in the yard that I just. I don't do anymore.
Craig
There's something very satisfying about pulling a weed, knowing that you got it all the way down by the full root system and yanking it out, but you really don't.
George
The darn thing pops up again two weeks later.
Craig
Yeah, sometimes you don't.
Gordon
I just don't like ending their lives. They didn't deserve that.
Craig
And finally, we got this one from one of our listeners, David, talking about being squared away. He said, I went to church on Sunday. Apparently my sins were washed away. And you can't get more squared away than that.
Gordon
You can do all the sins you want and just go to that church and then they're all gone.
George
Reset.
Gordon
Yeah. Jesus. The original power washer.
Craig
There you go.
Gordon
Just rinse them all away.
Craig
All right, so that was for listener Steve and Waco. We got around to talking about things that make you feel squared away. And that's it for episode 46 of the Musers, the podcast. Thanks to Peter Welpton, our producer. Don't forget, you can always get muser's merch@themusers.com. that's our website. Themusers.com Go there. Get t shirts, hats, sweatshirts, hoodies.
Gordon
I've been shocked at how many People have bought merch and they'll tweet us pictures of it or post it on the gram. It's good looking stuff. So good to see people out in the wild wearing their stuff. Matter of fact, this weekend I wore my the Musers the podcast shirt out and about when I was running errands, which is a little bit weird, isn't it? Because it's a shirt you're asking for. A mini pod has me on it and it was shocking. I got stopped so many times. I think it was five or six times in just these two errands that I ran with someone going, hey, hey, yeah, man, love the podcast.
Craig
Great.
Gordon
And people mentioning it because they'd seen the shirt. And I guess they, you know, originally they were looking at me going, oh, that guy kind of looks like Gordon Keith, but he's way too old and heavy to be Gordon Keith. But then they saw the shirt and they realized, oh, same guy.
Craig
Okay. So, yeah, get your musers merch@themusers.com and don't forget to check out our back catalog of episodes on Spotify or Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. And we'll see you next week on the Musers the podcast. One night with Steiny.
George
One night with Steiny. Shout out. Full send now. Hey, bro. What's your name, bro? Sonny.
Craig
What the hell?
Gordon
We've been sitting here for like an hour together.
George
I don't know your name, my brother.
Gordon
I can't guarantee anything.
George
All I can guarantee is that you're
Gordon
going to be entertained.
Craig
I'm a professional.
Gordon
I'm here to interview.
George
So the whole interview, you didn't ask
Craig
me what I like better, burger King or McDonald's. All right, and we are going to wrap up on that note.
George
Thank you, Steve, so much. That was amazing.
Craig
Burger King.
Gordon
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Craig
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Release Date: June 3, 2026
Hosts: George Dunham, Craig “Junior” Miller, Gordon Keith
Podcast Network: Cumulus Podcast Network
Episode 46 of The Musers brings listeners deep into the famously hilarious, insightful, and relatable chemistry of George, Craig, and Gordon. This week’s theme: “Being Squared Away”—the act and feeling of getting your life in order with practical, everyday tasks. What began as Craig's "core four" list of must-do tasks to feel organized quickly flourishes into a community- and co-host-driven deep dive into the pleasures, anxieties, and absurdities of personal order, all wrapped in the Musers’ signature banter. The hosts also share listener letters, reminisce about their time as movie extras, and explore the quirks of adulthood, from lawnmower obsessions to colonoscopy etiquette.
A. Get a Haircut
B. Professional Teeth Cleaning
C. Mowing and Edging the Lawn
D. Replacing All Your Underwear
Cleaning Out Garage/Closets/Attic
Washing Your Car (The No-Rinse Method)
Four New Tires / Car Maintenance
Balancing the Checkbook
All Laundry Washed, Folded, and Put Away
Clean Sheets / Made Bed
Cleaning Out Email Inbox / Deep Clean Grill
Power Washing
Cleaning Out the Car, Weeding the Garden, Organizing Tools
Listener David on Church:
“Squared Away” is classic Musers: deeply relatable, highly specific, playful, but also practical. Everyday upkeep is elevated into communal therapy, full of laughter, quirks, and at times surprisingly earnest encouragements to get your teeth cleaned, replace your undies, get your prostate checked, or deep clean something—just so you can feel, for one fleeting moment, truly on top of life. The group’s legendary repartee, crowd engagement, and talent for turning minutiae into shared experience are on display throughout.
Notable Quote to Capture the Episode: “Take it from me. Switch them all out at once. You will feel so great.”—Craig, on the existential power of new underwear [21:18]
For more Muser’s classics, check out the back catalog, and don’t miss the upcoming live shows.