Summertime - Episode 48

Summary

The Musers The Podcast — Episode 48: "Summertime"

Original Air Date: June 17, 2026
Hosts: George Dunham, Craig “Junior” Miller, and Gordon Keith
Network: Cumulus Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In Episode 48, the Musers dive into a spirited and often hilarious debate about the best season of the year, with a central focus on the nostalgia, realities, and mythology of summertime. The discussion is filled with signature Musers banter, personal anecdotes, and sharp observations on how age, climate, childhood memories, and even trivialities like the feel of new socks play into our feelings about the seasons. Along the way, they also read listener mail, re-examine summer traditions, and reminisce about the quirks of growing up in Texas (or, in one case, Chicago).

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Great Seasonal Debate

• Kickoff: George, Craig, and Gordon set the table for a divisive but lighthearted conversation: "What's your favorite time of year?" The responses reveal both generational nostalgia and sharply differing perspectives.
• Craig’s Favorite: Summer, unequivocally, for its freedom, family memories, lake trips, and long days. He attributes much of this joy to childhood summers and carrying that energy into adulthood.
  • Craig (19:13): “My best memories of my entire life happened in the summertime. It was a trip that we took ... that you look forward to all year long. And it's the summer vacation.”
• Gordon’s Favorite: Fall, followed by winter. He loves the cooling temperatures, football, Thanksgiving, and the lead-up to the holidays.
  • Gordon (10:03): "From October to December is my favorite time of year ... when it starts to cool off, when you have football, leaves are falling, Christmas holidays right around the corner."
• George’s View: A complex relationship—he’s prone to seasonal depression (especially in fall), enjoys spring, and ranks summer last due to the Texas heat but acknowledges the power of summer nostalgia.
  • George (10:41): "It's all depressing. Every time of year triggers depression."

2. Childhood Nostalgia and Summer’s "PR Department"

• All three hosts agree: our love for summer is inextricably tied to childhood—school’s out, days are long, structure is loosened, and family trips or lake days leave a lasting imprint.
• Gordon (15:32): "For every kid, summer is number one, and it's not even close. And then we just carried that into adulthood."
• Discussion of how postwar America—especially since the 1950s/60s—“marketed” summer as the season of joy, family, and travel.
  • George (41:07): "That's around the time when summer got a PR department."

3. The Harsh Realities of Southern Summers

• The Musers acknowledge the inconvenient truths about summer, especially in Texas: oppressive heat, mosquitoes, exhaustion, and limited outdoor activity.
• Gordon (16:05): "Mosquitoes everywhere. Especially mosquitoes. I don't know, I just... Mosquitoes. And you're just always at risk of heat exhaustion at every given turn in Texas."
• For parents, the long days of summer now complicate bedtimes and routines, rather than extending playdays.
  • Gordon (17:22): "Long days are not good for adults, only good for kids."

4. Rotating Underwear and the "Squared Away" Feeling

• Revisiting a previous episode's "Core 4" of tasks that help you feel "squared away": getting a haircut, buying new underwear, mowing & edging the lawn, and professional teeth cleaning.
• Listener Chris from Omaha asks about replacing socks. Lively debate follows about the longevity of socks vs. underwear, the satisfaction of new socks, and (true to format) fart frequency as a lifespan marker for underwear.
  • Gordon (04:51): "You need to replace your underwear more often because you're farting into that underwear hundreds of times a day."
  • George (04:34): "Socks can last longer than underwear for some reason."
• Memorable tangent about "Smart Wool" socks and the unique satisfaction of not having smelly feet.

5. Romance and Reality of the Summer Cookout

• The classic summer cookout: Is it Americana at its best, or an overrated ordeal?
  • George (44:13): "It's one of these deals that no one wants to tell the truth about ... everyone acts like cookouts are so badass and awesome, but in general, they are kind of a beating."
  • Gordon (45:59): "The winter cookout is better than the summer cookout."
• Flies, sweating, mosquitoes, and the dad-on-the-grill stress test versus the social joy of being outside.

6. Summer Traditions, Family, and School Schedules

• Memories of summer trips dominate the hosts' lists of best vacations, usually from childhood—beach trips, lakes, road adventures, even trips to Disneyland or Europe as a young adult.
• Craig (48:18): "Man, I couldn't wait to get Old Blue on the road."
• Lament over shifting school calendars that cut summer short: the call to bring back the traditional "Memorial Day to Labor Day" break.
  • Craig (36:50): "Why do we get kids in school past June 1st ... and then why do we start school ... August 15?"
• George floats year-round school, to the horror of the others.

7. Why Do We Hate (or Love) Our Climate—and Milk?

• Side discussion: Americans in the Midwest most dislike their climate. The Musers reflect on how Texas isn’t so bad by comparison—and the role of hydration, sugar water, and milk in '70s and '80s upbringings.
  • Gordon (31:48): "I drank so much milk and then I stopped around age probably 12 and never looked back. Now, I couldn't drink a glass now. I'd vomit."
• Nutritional nostalgia: Kool-Aid, chocolate milk, drinking from hoses, and how these odd routines shaped childhood summers.

8. Oddities and Absurdities

• Multiple callbacks to “hygienists with big boobs” hovering at the dentist—recurring as a running, tongue-in-cheek joke between George and Craig.
  • George (00:32): "You ever had the hygienist that has the boobs that hang over you when she's reaching?" (repeated at 03:24)
• Musings on why bikinis are socially acceptable for girls at pool parties, but underwear isn't—"some weird loophole" per George.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Origin of Summer Nostalgia:
  Craig (19:13): “My best memories of my entire life happened in the summertime ... that's the summer vacation.”
• Dentist Tangent:
  George (03:04): "Why do they...do all this stuff telling you that, hey, don't do that, you gotta protect your enamel. And then they take that thing to your enamel."
• The Underwear/Socks Debate:
  Gordon (04:51): "You need to replace your underwear more often because you're farting into that underwear hundreds of times a day. And you're not doing that to your socks."
• On Seasonal Affective Disorder:
  George (11:19): "...it’s called SAD, which is a funny acronym for Seasonal Affect...Disorder..." Gordon (11:30): "It’s where you stare into this stupid fake light for 15 minutes a day. And it's supposed to help your mood."
• Summing up the Summer Cookout:
  George (44:13): "Everyone acts like cookouts are so badass ... but in general, they are kind of a beating."
• Bikinis vs. Underwear:
  George (42:45): "It never made sense to my mind how if I saw her in a bra and panties ... she would scream. But yet she comes out here wearing a bikini and that says no, it's totally fine."
• On School Schedules:
  Craig (36:50): "Summer starts June 1st and goes to August 31st ... Why can't we just do that?"
• A Rare Ranking:
  Gordon (40:10): "For me, it's fall, winter, summer, spring. That's a very rare way to rank them, I bet."
• Celebrating the Season:
  Craig (51:13): "Well, I hope you have a good summer trip. I hope you have a good summer. This is the best time of year. June too. Maybe it's a very personal thing, but my brother, my sister, myself and my dad, we had four birthdays within 13 days. So maybe that's why June is always almost crazy. Christmas and summer."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:32 – 07:00: "Squared Away" Core 4 and the Great Sock Debate
• 10:03 – 12:30: Host Roundtable: Favorite Seasons and the Problem with Summer (SAD/Light Therapy)
• 15:22 – 18:43: Summer’s Legacy — Childhood Nostalgia vs. Adult Realities
• 21:31 – 22:31: Mowing the Lawn: 110°F or 72°F?
• 23:19 – 25:07: Summer Music & Cultural Imprinting
• 26:07 – 29:01: Who Hates Their Climate Most? The Midwest’s Struggles and the South’s Tolerance
• 29:01 – 33:55: Hydration, Sugar Water, and Americana Milk Stories
• 36:36 – 39:14: The School Calendar Rant — Bring Back the Full Summer Break!
• 42:45 – 45:23: Pool Party Social Norms and "The Bikini Loophole"
• 44:09 – 46:33: Do Cookouts Suck? Americana Myth vs. Reality
• 47:15 – 51:13: Best Summer Trips Ever — Childhood and Parenthood Recollections

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Tone, Chemistry, and Final Thoughts

This episode is classic Musers: filled with friendly ribbing, whimsy, and sharp but affectionate disagreements. The hosts’ decades-long chemistry is on full display, as is their knack for spinning nostalgia and mundane ritual into engaging, relatable radio. The nostalgia of summer comes with caveats about heat and adulthood responsibilities, but the verdict—especially for Craig—remains stubbornly optimistic.

As always, listeners can expect absurd digressions, sidesplitting detours (milk and mossy hoses, anyone?), and more than a few reminders that when it comes to the Musers, every ritual and memory—no matter how trivial—is fodder for their uniquely Texan blend of insight and irreverence.

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Coming Up Next:

June 24th — The Musers' live show from the Kessler Theater in Dallas drops as a special podcast event.

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Contact:
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Merchandise: themusers.com

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Transcript

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[George]

I don't know. You ever had the hygienist that has the boobs that hang over you when she's reaching?

[Craig]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[George]

I do in my fantasies.

[Craig]

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[George]

Together again.

[Craig]

Three Musketeers ready to go. And we have a I think controversial topic to talk about today on the podcast. But first we got to take care of some business. Have you guys been noticing that we have run into people who are wearing our merch music? It's showing up all over the place. So thanks. For those who've got a coffee cup, we've had some pictures sent to us or shirts or a hat. You can go to themusers.com and wouldn't that make a great birthday gift for

[George]

someone so perfect this summer? Or just a midsummer gift? Yeah, Celebrate Midsummer, Normalize midsummer gift that

[Craig]

says the Muser's the podcast.

[Gordon]

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[George]

Oh absolutely.

[Gordon]

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[Craig]

Yeah, yeah. Sports fans are a little depressed around Dallas Fort Worth and they want to support the Muse, so we appreciate that. We also have our letter of the week last episode. Junior straightened us out on things that make you feel squared away. And as you say, the Core 4 is getting a haircut, new underwear, mowing and edging the lawn and getting a professional teeth cleaning. Not just brushing your teeth, but going to the dentist.

[Gordon]

Right.

[Craig]

And getting all squared away there.

[George]

And all four of those at the same time. You have to do them all.

[Gordon]

That would be incredible.

[Craig]

I guess you could pull that off in one day. That make for a great day.

[George]

Could you imagine a dentist trying to walk along beside you trying to clean

[Craig]

your teeth as you're getting underwear?

[George]

Or hygienist I guess it would be. How does the dentist get out of doing one of the main things that Dentists should be doing.

[Craig]

He checks their work.

[George]

Yeah, he's just more of a dental supervisor.

[Craig]

Yeah, I guess he's all about the fillings and crowns and all that.

[George]

And he comes in at the end, right?

[Craig]

Yeah. He looks over, check their work.

[Gordon]

Yeah.

[Craig]

Confirm.

[Gordon]

Takes that sharp tool out, pokes a few teeth. Looks good.

[George]

Yeah. Why do they. They do all this stuff telling you that? Hey, don't do that. You got to protect your enamel. And then they take that thing to your enamel.

[Gordon]

Right.

[Craig]

Boy, there's always the uncomfortable situation, too, where they're asking you questions. So. Taking any vacations lately? Do they expect an answer?

[George]

I don't know. Ever had the hygienist that has the boobs that hang over you when she's reaching?

[Craig]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[George]

I do in my fantasies.

[Craig]

Dentist are a little weird. We'll do that another time. But we do get a letter from Chris in Omaha, and he said he's heard the squared away list before. And you've mentioned buying new underwear every time, but you never mentioned buying new socks. Are new socks bought on an as needed basis or replaced in total? As is underwear. Where do you fall on socks?

[Gordon]

So that's interesting because I've never completely thrown away all my socks and replaced them with all new pairs of socks.

[Craig]

Me neither.

[Gordon]

It's funny he brings that up, though, because I got a text message from a buddy of mine about a week ago, and all it said was, I just got eight new pairs of socks. I feel so squared away. So that is definitely something that can make you feel squared away. I don't know why I don't do that. I feel like socks can last longer than underwear for some reason because they're

[George]

not in contact with the.

[Gordon]

Yes.

[George]

The most hellish place on earth.

[Craig]

Yes. But your feet, though, and then you wear them out on the driveway.

[Gordon]

Yeah.

[Craig]

When you don't have your shoes on.

[George]

You wear socks on the driveway?

[Craig]

Sometimes. Sometimes you'll go on the patio or something with just your socks. You don't do that.

[Gordon]

I do it, but on rare occasions because I feel like it's really wearing away the sock. Yeah, but, yeah, you need to replace your underwear more often because you're farting into that underwear hundreds of times a day.

[George]

Hundreds.

[Gordon]

And you're not. You're not doing that to your socks.

[Craig]

Yeah, but man, your feet stink. Think about that.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

You.

[Craig]

I mean, you. I bet your. Your socks that you cycle in. Those can't smell good.

[Gordon]

I know. And I remember the same ones for a Long. I am about due to replace those. There's one company I buy my socks from, my cycling socks. And so I will replace those, but not as often as I replace the underwear. It's probably every six or seven years instead of three.

[Craig]

Yeah, those socks that I cut the grass in, they have all the grass clippings in it.

[George]

You wash them, don't you?

[Craig]

Yeah, yeah, you wash them. But I don't know if you totally get those clean.

[George]

See, I think I use these smart wool socks. They're called Smart Wool, you know that company.

[Gordon]

Those are great.

[George]

Great. And these socks never smell. It's incredible. Yeah, I don't know what this magical property is in these smart wool socks, but they last forever. And they don't smell amazing. It's awesome.

[Craig]

See, I have very few dark socks because we just don't get dressed up that much. So I have maybe four or five pair of dark socks.

[Gordon]

Same.

[George]

It's not just for dress up.

[Craig]

And when my boys come in town, they steal them. So they never have dress socks anytime. We're getting ready for a family event. Hey, dad, you have some dress socks? Well, yeah. What about the two pairs I gave you last time you were in town? That's how mine disappear. But yeah, they just seem to just. You know, I don't replace all short white socks and dress socks all in one one shopping spree. It just seems like that's a small rotation thing that you work in now.

[Gordon]

I will not ride out socks if they have holes in them. That's an immediate.

[George]

Is that the worst feeling in the world? Why is that such a gross feeling?

[Gordon]

I don't know, but I hate it.

[Craig]

Yeah, I'm out on that too. Good one though. Chris. Maybe we should add socks to the list of feeling squared away.

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[Craig]

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[Gordon]

I think I like fall leading into winter. I think from October to December is my favorite time of year. So that's mostly fall. A Little bit of winter. But I love the fall when it starts to cool off. When you have football, leaves are falling. Christmas holidays right around the corner experience Thanksgiving. That just that time of year is the best.

[Craig]

America agrees with you. 39% of Americans say that fall is their favorite time of the year. Gordo, what's your favorite time of the year?

[George]

None of it.

[Craig]

Okay.

[Gordon]

It's so sad.

[Craig]

It is sad.

[George]

It's all depressing. Every time of year triggers depression, which

[Craig]

is the least depressing.

[Gordon]

So sad.

[Craig]

When's the least depressing season for you? Fall? Summer.

[George]

The problem is I like it when it starts turning cool and fall and the leaves start to fall. Like, I like that time. But it always triggers depression. I think they have that. It's called sad, which is a funny acronym for seasonal affectation or seasonal affect disorder. What's it called?

[Gordon]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[George]

You know what I'm talking about.

[Craig]

Yeah. Okay.

[George]

But anyway. Yeah. And it has to do, I think with the lack of sunlight and it just triggers depression. So I have to do light therapy.

[Craig]

George, what is that?

[George]

It's where you, like, stare into this stupid fake light for 15 minutes a day. And it's supposed to help your mood.

[Craig]

Does it?

[George]

I don't know. I think it's placebo. The company is named Placebo. It's Placebo Electronics Incorporated. But yeah, but so I like it.

[Craig]

So it's not fall.

[George]

Spring is good, too. When it starts to, you know, Hope springs eternal. Yes. And sunshiny and things are blooming, which I've never understood why there's that hell week in April, which is usually when we have great weather and all that. But like every bad thing that ever happened in the world happened in like a couple weeks in April.

[Gordon]

Isn't that amazing?

[Craig]

Yeah, that is that.

[Gordon]

It's really creepy. Spring is my least favorite. I do not spring at all. Yeah. I'll go fall, then winter, then summer, then spring. I hate the spring.

[George]

I think summer may be my least favorite.

[Craig]

And that's what's always just short circuited me, because summer is my favorite. I just think it's hands down from going back to when you were a kid.

[George]

Okay. Summer vacation, though. But that, that. That is skewing this too much because we emotionally had a great time during summer because we didn't have school. But just judging it on the weather alone in Texas, where we live, it's just ball melting.

[Gordon]

It is.

[Craig]

And some of that does depend on where you live. And those in the Midwest think that, you know, it's too hot and cold there. In the east, they think it's too cold. In the west, they're fine because it's pretty much the same year round. But, yes, summer, it's my favorite just because of that. Not only your childhood, but once you start having kids, the time. The best time that I had with my kids was in the summertime. We didn't have the interruption of schools. Somehow as important as education is that it seems to get kicked on this podcast quite a bit. Man, school was the worst. And even when my kids were going to school, I felt sorry for him in some ways. But, yeah, my best memories of my life, whether it's when I was a kid or as an adult, they all seem to fall in, no pun intended, there they all seem to be in the summertime. And it was just. It was such a freedom feeling in. In childhood. But then as a dad, we work in the mornings. I'd get home around lunchtime, and sometimes we would say, maybe it's because I'm a lake person. Maybe that's why I look forward to summer so much, because that's when we go to the lake. That was the thing as a kid. It's the thing now. That's where I go to relax. That's where I go to fish. You know, pulling kids who are surfing or whatever we're doing at the lake. Sometimes just sitting and looking at the lake. We do that in December, but it doesn't have the same feel. I love water, love swimming. I love being in the water. And that is the summertime. And it feels like it is a younger thing. Those between the ages of 18 to 34, summers, number one, falls number two, spring is third and winter is second or is fourth. With just everyone involved, it's fall, number one, summer, second, spring, and then winter. But, man, I just think the summer. And we romanticize the summer, too, with songs with just, you know, we don't write too many songs about winter, but we write songs about endless summer. And it's not just the Beach Boys, but those have just been woven through our lifetime.

[George]

Okay. So if we changed it and people had to go to school all through summer and your time out of school was in the winter, summer would be last.

[Gordon]

Yeah, because I think a lot of this. Gordo, you're right. It's from our childhood because for every kid, summer is number one, and it's not even close. And then we just carried that into adulthood. And so we've lived off of our childhood summer experiences. But really, as an adult, summer's always kind of beaten me. And I think a lot of it has to do with the weather because I like to do a lot of things outside and you can't where we live, at least do much outside from June to September.

[George]

Right?

[Gordon]

Mosquitoes everywhere. Especially mosquitoes. I don't know, I just.

[George]

Mosquitoes. And you're just always at risk of heat exhaustion at every given turn in Texas. Yes, it's just, it's miserable.

[Gordon]

Plus, from a sports perspective, it's the downtime for sports. There's really not a whole lot going on. Only baseball, dog days, baseball. It doesn't even really get good in baseball till September or October, till the fall.

[Craig]

Yeah, sports does take a dip, certainly in the summertime. But man, the beach, the mountains, if that's your thing. Is there anything better than being in the mountains in the summertime?

[Gordon]

No. It's gorgeous.

[Craig]

The speaking of light, longer days.

[Gordon]

That beats me.

[Craig]

They say it's good for you though. People are happier in the summertime.

[George]

We need to, I don't know, find God's email address or something and get these days a little more standardized. We need to write the earth to where it's equal throughout the year.

[Craig]

You have. Don't take that away from summer. That's part of the greatness of summer. The days are longer.

[George]

Yes. Summer you have. Yes, I agree that they're longer, but I'm saying that we should average it out. Where we don't have really, really short days in the winter and we don't have really, really long days in the summer. We need to write the earth.

[Gordon]

And I will also say that we think the long days in summer are great based on our childhood because we could stay out playing until 9 o' clock because it was light. But as an adult, for example, when you're trying to put a four year old to bed at seven and it's still bright outside.

[George]

Still bright. And they're like, why am I going to bed during the day? It makes sense.

[Craig]

Let's go have some fun. Let's go swimming. We got time to go swimming.

[George]

What if they have something to event that they have to do? You're trying to standardize a bedtime for kids. What about for us? We have to go to sleep while it's still blazing sunshine outside.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[Gordon]

We settle in for our evening TV watching at 8 and it's bright outside and I gotta go to bed in one hour. It's just. No, long days are not good for adults, only good for kids.

[Craig]

Oh, I totally disagree. After dinner you got. Hey, I think I could get in nine. You got time to go play till 9 o' clock at night. There's nothing better than that. And again, maybe this is just a lake centric thing, but there is nothing better than watching the sun go down and you're out on your boat and you're, you know, out with your family, you're out with your friends. It's just.

[George]

Sure, but that's any time of year. But what sucks is having to wait till 10 o' clock at night for that sun to go down. You're like, I really want to watch the sunset with my family. But we're out on the lake baking right now and we've been out here for five hours waiting for the sun to set.

[Gordon]

Yeah, I remember when we visited my nephew who was working for a year in Nome, Alaska.

[George]

Oh, my Lord.

[Gordon]

And the sun went down at 1am and rose at 3am Those long days were not good. Yeah, there was nothing good about that.

[Craig]

That's a little extreme, but yeah, not only as a kid, but I just have enjoyed that as an adult. Hey, I've got some time left in the day and I've got time to be squared away. I can go finish the yard.

[George]

It's only underwear.

[Craig]

Buy new underwear, maybe some new socks or something.

[George]

I can go visit a dental hygienist at 9 o' clock at night. I'll call her up at home. Yeah, you're the one with the big ones, right? You lean over me.

[Craig]

No, stop. Yeah, and that's the other thing about as an adult. I just felt like we had so much more time. Yeah, sometimes you are, when they're little, trying to get them to bed. But hey, let's do something fun tonight. Yeah, we can go see a movie or. In the summer now it's much more organized. When we were kids, we were playing sandlot baseball. My kids were on baseball teams. But yeah, you had the 6 o' clock game and there was no problem. You could play until 8 o'. Clock. And sometimes, yeah, y' all get the bed little bit later. But I don't know, man, I just. And I think the beginning of summer is the absolute. June is the best because it's not, it's not quite as hot certainly here in Texas as it is in July and August. And we're all a little beaten down by that by the end of it. But yeah, it's, it's, it's the promise of summer, that you're going to have a good time, you're looking forward to a vacation. I mean, think about that at least with me. My best memories of my entire life happened in the summertime. It was a trip that we took. It was, you know, a trip that we took as when I was 8 years old or when I was 48 years old. And it was something that you look forward to all year long. And it's the summer vacation and it's a week somewhere, it's 10 days somewhere or even two days somewhere.

[George]

But that's also a function of that being school out. If it was at a different time than it was, summer can't help.

[Gordon]

That's true. Summer can't help it. It's also a function of being child related. You know, a lot of things that you mentioned as parents you were doing with your child. So it's just childhood extended. I'm telling you, summer. There are great things about summer summer vacation because it only happens there and. But it's mostly centered around childhood or childhood extended. It's not necessarily because the season is so great. It's because we have warm fuzzies from our childhood and that's when kids are out of school.

[George]

Would you rather mow your lawn in 110 degree weather or 72 degree weather?

[Craig]

Of course I'd take 72, but it's part of it. That's why you try to get out there early or late. I can go out when the 7 o' clock and it's not that bad.

[George]

There's something screwy about that whole late thing. I, I used to think that too. Well, it's summer and it's blazing hot here, so I'll wait till a little bit later to, to mow the lawn. And then I'd mow when I see the sun, you know, starting to go down. And then it's like always. That's like the hottest time of the

[Craig]

day for whatever reason 5 o' clock is. But if you wait till 7, still got another hour, you're good.

[George]

It doesn't seem too cool at seven o'. Clock.

[Gordon]

But then if you work the next morning and you're doing all of that from 7 to 8 or 8 to 9, okay, then you're showering. You probably still need to eat something. There's no time to decompress too.

[George]

Time Crunch.

[Gordon]

Now it's 11 and you're, oh, now I got to get up in a few hours. It's better just to get it done during the day or early afternoon or early evening.

[Craig]

It just seems like our lives. While you think that's more jumbled to me that just Feels like we have more time. We have more time to not worry about whatever your responsibilities are because you

[George]

have to wake up the next morning for work. Now, if you're independently wealthy like you are and you don't have to work, that's great.

[Craig]

But I'm working right now, sir, and. Yes, you are.

[George]

Yeah. Podcast time. That's harder than regular life.

[Craig]

It's really hard for me.

[Gordon]

And you're right. If you're making the deal that you are going to cheat yourself out of the sleep that you need, then, yes, you have more time. Absolutely.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Craig]

And I guess I've been cheating myself out of. Out of some sleep, but it just doesn't. I don't know, it just. There is a feeling about the summertime, and that's why we have songs like Summertime by DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Will Smith.

[Gordon]

Is that summer time? Summertime. Summer time.

[George]

Summer. No, that is not summer.

[Craig]

Summer. Summertime. From the 90s 80s. I think that was under the Boardwalk, all the Beach Boys songs. Endless Summer Surfing usa We Romanticize. That you hate. Yeah.

[George]

You say that's the worst song of all time.

[Craig]

But it was about summer. I'll give it a break. It was about summer.

[Gordon]

Boys of Summer. Don Henley.

[Craig]

Great song.

[George]

Creepy song.

[Craig]

No, it's not. Creepy outside. Creepy.

[George]

I don't know.

[Craig]

I guess it is kind of about the. The end of summer.

[George]

Yeah.

[Craig]

Nobody on the beach. Yeah, but that is. And you talk about depressing to me. And usually we're out of training camp and kids are. This is August and kids are getting ready for school, which we're going to get to, by the way. The. As school comes up again, when that schedule should be. That is depressing to me. When the beach. When there's no one on the beach and there's no one on the lakes and the swim season's over and it's time to go back to the fall routine. And I love football. I love all that, the changing of the leaves and all that stuff we get in the autumn and the fall. But that, to me, is a depressing time when it just goes quiet.

[George]

Sure. When the fun's over, yeah, you gotta go back to school. But a lot of kids look forward to school, believe it or not. A lot of kids, like, they want to see their friends and stuff, and they. They've had enough of summer.

[Craig]

Boy, I never did. That was always the worst. August thinking, oh, my gosh, we've got two weeks. What are we going to get done in two weeks before we have to go back to that prison.

[George]

But thank goodness we have seasons. Or is it a great thing to have seasons?

[Craig]

See, y' all think that we have a buddy in Southern California.

[George]

We have a buddy who said that he lived in San Diego and he got tired of living in perfect weather all the time.

[Gordon]

I would.

[George]

Because there was no. There's nothing that differentiates the year. The year's not divided up.

[Gordon]

I need seasons. I need the change. Because I really. While I don't like spring, it's my least favorite, there are things of each season I enjoy and look forward to. And so I need that change in my life to make it feel like it's a real year.

[George]

Why do you hate spring? I don't get the. I mean, it ranked third on everybody's list. Second to last on everybody's list. I don't get it.

[Craig]

I. Yeah, I love spring.

[Gordon]

I don't like.

[Craig]

I know summer's just right around the corner.

[Gordon]

I don't like it because it's the gateway to summer. It's the gateway to the hell that summer is.

[George]

And it's the summer's last on your list.

[Gordon]

No, spring is last.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Wow.

[George]

Wait. But the reason you hate it is because it's the gateway to summer.

[Gordon]

That's part of the reason. It's also the first time we see mosquitoes. It's the first time it's starting to heat up.

[George]

Yeah, but summer is all of that. All of those reasons you just mentioned. Worse than spring. But yet summer ranks above spring.

[Gordon]

But a lot of it also goes to childhood. And I'd never liked Easter. It was a very uncomfortable holiday. We had to dress up in this polyester dress shirt and tie and slacks. Go to church. It's hot. And then in the summer, at least you have the summer vacation that George was talking about. You have idle time, especially if you're a kid. Spring just. I don't know. There's just something about spring I don't like.

[Craig]

But where we live, allergies.

[George]

It's like one of the few allergies.

[Gordon]

Yeah.

[George]

It's one of the few times, except leading into fall, where you actually get the San Diego weather for just a few precious, precious days.

[Gordon]

Yeah.

[George]

Of our Texas year.

[Gordon]

Yep. Allergies, Another big one. That's when they spike, is in the spring.

[George]

I love it. I love smelling plant reproduction at work.

[Craig]

You know, that climate, you. Your dislike for your own climate. Do you know where that is most prevalent in the United States? Who hates their climate the most? What section? West, east, south or Midwest?

[George]

I think it's going to be like northeast or maybe the north, maybe they hate. They just absolutely hate snow and stuff.

[Gordon]

Yeah. Maybe a place with a really long winter like Minnesota or Montana.

[Craig]

Yeah, that's. It says the Midwest. Because they get. If you take a state like Minnesota or Illinois, it can get hot in Illinois and Missouri, but they still get terrible winters too, sometimes. So they say that the Midwest is the most dissatisfied with their climate. West and northeast tie for second. And then the south is.

[George]

Is fourth most satisfied.

[Craig]

Yeah. Because there are 20% that they dislike their climate. Only 20% do in the South. And with the heat with me, it's. It never used to be a problem. I could go. I played 36 holes of golf sometimes in 100 degree temperatures, and it wouldn't bother me as a teenager. It bothers me now as I've gotten older.

[George]

It's because you hydrate with alcohol.

[Craig]

That's bad.

[George]

Yeah, that's always going to bother your body.

[Craig]

But if it's a frozen margarita, technically, shouldn't that cool you off?

[George]

That doesn't counterbalance it.

[Craig]

I try to hydrate correctly, especially if I'm out on the lake or if I'm doing yard work or something like that.

[George]

You know, when I was a kid, I never remember anyone ever saying, drink water. Drink plenty of water.

[Craig]

You just kind of knew when to.

[George]

I seriously think my whole childhood I'd never drank water. Like, never had a glass of water.

[Craig]

It was always from a hose. Yeah.

[George]

Now I would drink from a hose every once in a while. Which you're not supposed to do. There's like this. Not potable.

[Craig]

Oh, really?

[George]

Yeah, they say you're not supposed to drink.

[Gordon]

Something wrong with that Hose grows in the hose.

[George]

Things grow in the hose. Bacteria grows in the hose. And there's leading.

[Craig]

Right.

[George]

And. But yeah. So you would go in the house and you would immediately look for either Kool Aid or some kind of soft drink.

[Gordon]

Yes.

[George]

Like we never said, will you fix me a bottle of water? Wasn't a thing.

[Craig]

So you don't think we. I think kids do a worse job with hydration now, though, than we did.

[Gordon]

Wow, that's hard to believe because I

[Craig]

just think they have more options now with just junk that they can drink.

[George]

Oh, dude, we drank sugar water. That's all we had. Kool Aid was nothing but sugar water. And that's what we drank all the time because the parents didn't back then. I'm gonna buy soft drinks for you here. I'll buy this whole box of sugar and put it in a pitcher and then Mix tap water in with it. There you go.

[Gordon]

Yeah. I think today's kids are doing a lot better. My daughter in Pre K, every kid had to bring a water bottle to school with them and it's got water in it. When we were kids, we didn't do that. Maybe you had a thermos in your lunch pail, but you probably put coke in it, right?

[George]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Craig]

Yeah, but look at the guys not drinking water.

[George]

What is this, a prison?

[Gordon]

Right.

[Craig]

I know, but I've seen some kids though that don't do very well with getting enough water. They're all about chocolate milk or Gatorade or something like that.

[George]

Chocolate milk was huge when I was growing up too.

[Craig]

Look at the guy we work with at the Ticket. I don't know if he ever drinks water. I don't think ham ever drinks water.

[George]

He passed everybody in my childhood, every friend, I had that guy's diet.

[Craig]

Yeah. I mean, at least in my household we had water every night and with every meal.

[George]

You had water with your meal or milk?

[Craig]

Yeah, yeah, we would.

[George]

That sounds like a prison. Milk is weird too. That was very common when I was growing up too. No matter what meal we had, the kids would have milk.

[Craig]

We thought we were supposed to.

[George]

It's just strange.

[Craig]

They say four glasses a day, something like that.

[Gordon]

Yeah.

[George]

Would we all have scurvy? Why were we having to have so much milk?

[Gordon]

I drank so much milk and then I stopped around age probably 12 and never looked back. I now I couldn't drink a glass now. I'd vomit.

[George]

You know how badly it would gross you out tonight with your spaghetti dinner or whatever. You drank a glass of whole milk. I'd throw up getting all that mouth coat. That happens.

[Gordon]

Awful.

[Craig]

I could do it like 30 weight

[George]

motor oil in your mouth.

[Craig]

You know, I could. I could definitely do that. You can, by the way. Yeah. Because I still. I still drink milk every once in a while.

[George]

How often is every once in a while?

[Craig]

I don't know. We buy a quart of milk a week and I'll go through. I still have cereal and.

[George]

Well, yeah, cereal, but I'm saying drinking

[Gordon]

milk, like with your dinner, do you have a glass of milk?

[Craig]

No.

[Gordon]

Or after a hot day of milk,

[Craig]

I will with lunch. If I have a peanut butter sandwich, I have milk.

[George]

You have milk and peanut butter sandwich?

[Craig]

Yeah, why not?

[Gordon]

What are you, eight?

[Craig]

Maybe. Maybe that's it. Maybe I'm just a big kid.

[Gordon]

You love summer and I still love summer.

[Craig]

I like cereal and I like peanut butter. Maybe I am just a Big kid. But there is something to that. That milk that we were forced to drink as kids, I used to. I had a hard time. Like, we had to eat everything on our plate, and I had a hard time with that. So I would then just somehow talk my parents into what if I just had a bowl of cereal? I bet I survived from about 7 until age 10, probably three or four bowls of cereal a day.

[George]

So I don't understand. Your parents would. You would have to clean your plate. Yeah, but because they were so concerned with your nutrition and they had fixed this meal. Yeah, but you could always just opt out and eat cereal.

[Craig]

No, I would have to eat. You know, at least make an attempt. And I would get through most of it, but then I'd still be hungry because it was a very balanced meal. And it was a bunch of stuff that. Cauliflower and liver and just liver.

[George]

We never ate my house again because

[Craig]

they thought it was good for you. We had it once a week.

[Gordon]

Wow. Really?

[Craig]

Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. But then I was like, I don't

[George]

think I've ever had liver when I

[Craig]

was hungry for a snack. You know, my mom would always let me have because she thought I was too skinny. And so I would.

[George]

You got back at her.

[Craig]

I. Oh, man, did I ever.

[George]

Yeah, I took revenge on my parents, whatever.

[Craig]

But because I had all that milk. Never had a broken bone on my body.

[Gordon]

Pretty good.

[Craig]

And I've had some pretty bad wipeouts, too.

[George]

I question the causation here.

[Craig]

Played football for three years.

[George]

How do you know that's why you've never had a broken bone?

[Craig]

I don't. I'm just throwing it out there. You decide.

[George]

Okay. All right.

[Craig]

I think there's something to it seems like every friend that I've had. What? You've never had a broken bone?

[George]

My favorite. My favorite bowls of cereal every day movie growing up was War Games, and I never had a broken bone.

[Craig]

You've had a broken bone, though, chief.

[George]

What do you think about that?

[Craig]

You have had one.

[George]

When your ridiculous car accident, name it.

[Craig]

Went around with your casket.

[George]

Yeah, but that wasn't. That wasn't due to War Games.

[Craig]

Okay. And milk would have done you better than War Games.

[George]

How do you know that?

[Craig]

Just because.

[Gordon]

Can you go one day without promoting War Games?

[Announcer]

Okay.

[George]

You tell him not to promote milk, and I won't promote War games.

[Gordon]

Okay.

[Craig]

My late sister was a dairy farmer, so maybe that's why.

[George]

Well, my current sister is an actor.

[Craig]

Okay, you got me there. All right, great.

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[Craig]

I think summer is the greatest and here's the one thing that we've got to get done in this country. And I don't know why we can't get this done. And maybe this is good old day syndrome, but some states still do it this way.

[George]

I tell you why we can't get it done. Snowflakes. That's why.

[Craig]

Listen to me. Summer starts June 1st and goes to August 31st. It goes from Memorial Weekend or around there somewhere to Labor Day. Why in our state in Texas and most of the states in our union, why do we get kids in School past June 1st sometimes? And then why do we start school, especially in the Lone Star State, Aug. 15 or Aug. 10? What are we doing?

[Gordon]

It's terrible.

[Craig]

Why can't we in that? Pretty easy just to go, hey, summertime is June 1st to August 31st. What's so hard about that?

[Gordon]

So the difference these days is they get a fall break, they get a couple of spring breaks or a longer winter break. Or they get more breaks than we got, right?

[Craig]

Which I love that now we don't need that.

[George]

You get all, you don't need all those breaks.

[Craig]

Three full months and we'll give you, you know, a few long weekends. But no we don't. We need Christmas and spring break and that's it.

[George]

I like having breaks throughout the year. I think that's better.

[Gordon]

I bet kids would rather have the longer summer. I know when I was a kid I much prefer the long.

[Craig]

Only according to my research, only Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Oregon and Washington, those are the only states that still respect June 1st to August 31st.

[Gordon]

Wow.

[George]

I think we should do year round school. I think Education's important, and I think that's the only thing that's going to make us improve ourselves as a culture, as a society, as a country.

[Gordon]

You know what's interesting? If we did that in 50 years, if some podcast was talking about which season was the best, and these are guys and gals that had gone to school year round, would anybody put summer first?

[George]

No one?

[Gordon]

Nobody would.

[George]

Nobody.

[Craig]

No.

[George]

Because it naturally. See, there, you finally agree with us.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[George]

If you're going to. Naturally is the worst of all the seasons.

[Craig]

If you're going to ruin summer.

[George]

Yeah.

[Craig]

It's no longer going to be the greatest thing ever for us big kids. It changed.

[George]

Yet spring would still rank lowest on his list because it was. Because the reason he hates it is because it leads into summer somehow. It's worse than summer itself because it leads thinking.

[Gordon]

It's sound thinking.

[George]

No, it isn't.

[Gordon]

Because it's the gateway to the summer. It's the worst season.

[George]

It makes my brain crazy. Yeah.

[Craig]

He stays consistent, though. He always does, about why he believes something. And that's just the. That's just the way it is.

[Gordon]

Okay. So for me, it's. It's fall, then winter. I love the winter.

[Craig]

Winter is last on every pole that I saw, and I love it way last.

[Gordon]

I love. Because I love the cold weather. And I'm figuring out that a lot of this, for me, revolves around mosquitoes. There are no.

[Craig]

It really is. You have a mosquito problem.

[Gordon]

There are no mosquitoes in the winter. And I think. Because if I like. It's summer now. If I walked out in our backyard and stood for one minute, I'd have 10 bites. So I can't. I'm paralyzed. I can't do anything outside. So for me, it's fall, winter, summer, spring. That's a very rare way to rank them, I bet. But that's my four.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[George]

I would do spring, winter, fall, summer.

[Gordon]

Summer's last for you.

[George]

Yeah. Because it's. To me, summer is the gateway to the winter.

[Craig]

Okay. And something changed. I think it was the 1950s. Is that when we started as a society making a bigger deal about the family vacation in the summertime? Because there was actually, in 1947, it went this way. Spring, fall, summer, winter. But 1960, it was spring, then summer, then fall, then winter. And summer almost overtook spring. It was only 3 percentage points behind. Is that when the whole movement of. I don't know, beginning of rock and roll, singing about summer and the family wagon that would get loaded up and go on the big.

[George]

Yeah, that's it's around the time when summer got a PR department. It was like, hey, what year product placement and 1960.

[Gordon]

Is that when the interstate system expanded in our country? So easier to take summer vacations?

[Craig]

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And you know, and that was the thing. I guess my friends were taking big trips in the summer. We never really went on the big family trip. That wasn't to a relatives. And ours were very. We're back to the lake. That was our. That was our big trip. We would find a lake and we would go there for like a week. But as far as like going to Disneyland or Disney World, we didn't do that in the summertime. They were all family trips. But man, those were a couple Disney worlds.

[George]

And we did one to the Capitol. There was like three or four years there. We did a lot of. Every summer we had a big family vacation. It was great.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[George]

Some fantastic memories there.

[Gordon]

Yeah. We did the same trip every summer. We went to Port Aransas on the Texas coast. That was our family trip. And it was right after we got out of school. It'd be late May, early June. We lived for that trip.

[George]

You know, one thing in summer's favor, Giorgio, I as I try to defend your summer is awesome stance. Summer is so awesome. Yeah. When the pool parties started in junior high high school, that's when the girls started. You'd see those girls in bikinis. And it never made sense to my mind how if I saw her in a bra and panties that would be. She would scream if she saw. Thought that I saw her in that.

[Craig]

I know the bikini was.

[George]

But yet she comes out here wearing a bikini and that says no, it's totally fine.

[Gordon]

I never understood that this is outerwear.

[George]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Craig]

Not gonna that in December.

[George]

Yeah.

[Gordon]

Why is that?

[George]

It's some weird loophole to where the bikini is. Is not. It just does not feel personal at all. But if you saw me in bra and panties, I would just freak out.

[Craig]

Even a thong bikini.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[George]

I mean swim, swimming, swimming. I'm not going to get in the water. But it's for swimming.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[Gordon]

I'd like to make something clear to the chairman of summer.

[Craig]

George. Yes.

[Gordon]

I don't hate summer. You know, I've been making the case against summer because it's not at the top of my list. But there are many things that I love about summer.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[Gordon]

I don't. I don't go through summer miserable. I don't even go through spring miserable. And that's the gateway to the hell of the summer. There are things about every season that I like enough that I actually look forward to some of or if not all of that season.

[Craig]

Yeah.

[Gordon]

Like there's a lot of summer vacations and everything that we've touched on. So I don't want it to come across to you that I hate.

[Craig]

No, I don't think you're anti summer. I just don't think you love it enough and you need to embrace it and love it more. Here's another thing that I think is great, but I think you two guys are kind of out on it. What about the summer cookout?

[Gordon]

It's okay.

[George]

I think cookouts.

[Craig]

Okay.

[George]

It's Gordo that has a problem with it is me.

[Gordon]

It's a little bit of a beating. It is.

[George]

It's. It's one of these. It's one of these deals that no one wants to tell the truth about is that everyone acts like cookouts are so badass and awesome, but in general, they are kind of a beating. Like, I like being around friends and I like the social aspect of it, but the eating food outside with some guy who's maybe iffy on the grill and always overcooks things, you know, you have to deal with that and tell them, oh, no, it's great. No, it's fine. I like it like this.

[Gordon]

Right.

[George]

And then you always having to swat flies off the beams and it's just. And mosquitoes are going on, and you're always having to yell at kids not to drink the whatever they found out in the shed. And it's just. It's just that it's more of a beating than people acknowledge that it is.

[Gordon]

Yes.

[George]

And ants. You may have ants that are crawling up. They're marching up in a rank and file coming up the side of the picnic table and.

[Craig]

Yeah, but look how nice patio furniture is now. Even though it's a little warm, especially if you don't have a fan. There is something to the summer cookout, though, that is just maybe it's just

[George]

I have good memories.

[Craig]

It's romantic Americana thing.

[George]

Yes, it is. All of that is true. But all I'm saying is that can't we at least acknowledge that they are overrated and that we're over romanticizing them versus the reality of them, which is kind of a beating. You're sweating balls out here and you're like, God, we have a whole house that has air conditioning right there that can host these people. But yeah, we're all outside in 100 degree weather. Trying to keep nature from consuming the thing that we're preparing for ourselves to eat. That's when you're trying to get on your plate.

[Craig]

When you jump in the pool and get cooled off.

[Gordon]

In fact, I'll go you one better. The winter cookout is better than the summer cookout.

[George]

Yes. I love that because you can get a fire going and people can roast things over the fire, like tailgating at a college game.

[Craig]

So cooking something grill.

[Gordon]

And you're bundled up, you're not sweating. They're. There are no mosquitoes or flies. Winter cookout trumps summer cookout.

[Craig]

Seems like you always got flies. No matter what, you're always going to battle those flies. And I will grant you about the beating part of the cookout.

[George]

Thank you.

[Craig]

When you become the dad and you're the one that's over that grill. So it's now 140 degrees as you're flipping burgers or whatever your chicken or whatever it is.

[George]

Everybody bugging you. Are they ready yet? Are they ready yet?

[Craig]

Yeah, just hang on.

[George]

Are they ready yet?

[Craig]

Just hang on. Maybe 10 minutes, honey.

[George]

People are getting a little bit anxious. Yeah, hold on. I messed up the first batch. I have to read it.

[Craig]

My dad doesn't think you're doing it right. I know it's going to be good. Trust me, it's going to be great. All right. What is the best summer trip you ever went on? Doesn't have to be from your childhood. Could be adulthood. When you think of a summer trip, what was number one? As we prepare to go on summer vacation. I told you guys, I'm going to Montani.

[George]

Nice.

[Gordon]

I've taken a lot of great summer trips as an adult, but I don't. I don't think those.

[Craig]

Nothing really stands out.

[Gordon]

No, a lot of them stand out. But to me, best summer vacation. That has to go back to when I was a kid.

[Craig]

Okay.

[Gordon]

And it has to be one of those beach trips to the Texas coast. Probably one that we went with our cousins when we would sync up our vacations with our cousin's family. And you're at the beach for a week with your cousins. Just. And they. You know, back then, our parents let us go anywhere we wanted at any time of the day. Yeah, those were the best. I think beach trips with cousins when we were little.

[George]

I think mine was in my 20s when I went to Europe. Oh, it was so magical. Yeah. Yeah.

[Craig]

Never had time to do it because

[George]

it was the summertime. Went over there and got to see all that Europe for the first time. It was unbelievable to me.

[Craig]

Yeah. See, I have good memories of the childhood summer trips, especially those when we go to a lake. And I just thought that, man, I couldn't wait to get Old Blue on the road.

[George]

What's Old Blue?

[Craig]

It's our old boat. 1966 Tim Craft. But. And I think I'll go three real quick ones is when I did have kids and we took one trip to the Northeast where we flew into Washington D.C. saw the sites around D.C. went to Gettysburg, which was. The kids were an age where Sandy knew what was going. Man, I loved it. I thought it was great. And they thought it was pretty cool too. And then we went to New York. We went to the Baseball hall of Fame. That was amazing how much we worked into that trip. Went across the border and saw the Rangers play Toronto and gave oh NHL game.

[Gordon]

That's awesome. In the summer.

[Craig]

No, it was baseball. It was Rangers and Blue Jays and then that was before we had our youngest. But then we took a summer trip and it's just my wife and I with our youngest and we went and we took him to a Cubs game. He saw Wrigley Field. And I grew up in Chicago, so we went by my old house and we saw. We took.

[George]

You were a Northerner, Forgot you were a Yankee.

[Craig]

I was held there against my will for nine years. I was born in San Antonio and. And then we went to see U2. Oh, that's the United Center. And that was those couple of trips there. And then any trip we took in the summertime, seeing them get excited about it, I mean, just wait till your daughter can go on a trip where she's. She understands the concept. We're going somewhere that I've never been before or maybe a place that we've been before that I love. And just seeing their anticipation of it and enjoying it. And then of course, if you have a couple of kids, then it's fighting in the car. And that's part of it. But it's part of it. I mean that's what made it a. A cross country trip.

[George]

They crossed over the line. They crossed over the line.

[Craig]

He's touching me.

[George]

He's touching me. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. There's no. No airspace rule.

[Craig]

God, I bet you were the biggest pain in the ass on summer trips.

[George]

Sure. That's the whole point of it.

[Craig]

That was your.

[George]

If my parents are going to hold me captive in a car, they're going to pay for that.

[Craig]

He really feels that way.

[Gordon]

We did take a summer trip when I was around 11 to California. We flew out there, my mom and my sister and me, and we stayed at her sister's house, my aunt and uncle. And we went to Disneyland. And I think we also went to Magic Mountain one day.

[Craig]

That sounds awesome.

[Gordon]

And we may have been out there for two weeks. And my aunt and uncle had a pool. They lived in Simi Valley, California. And our cousins were older than us. They were in high school and college, but they still played with us the whole time. And that was pretty cool to be in the summer in California for the first time in my life. Go to Disneyland, be in a house that had a pool. I couldn't imagine.

[Craig]

Oh my gosh. How do people do that?

[Gordon]

That was quite memorable.

[George]

You're rolling.

[Craig]

Well, I hope you have a good summer trip. I hope you have a good summer. This is the best time of year. June too. Maybe it's a very personal thing, but my brother, my sister, myself and my dad, we had four birthdays within 13 days. So maybe that's why June is always almost crazy. Christmas and summer.

[Gordon]

Yeah.

[Craig]

And it was just celebrations, you know, every four days or so, somebody's birthday. Yeah. Maybe that's why summer is the all time best. Plus I won a couple of Trident Conference championships at Fairwind Swim Club in Wheaton.

[Gordon]

Okay, you've had great summer success.

[Craig]

Happened in the summertime. So maybe that's what made summer so great. We are about to go on summer vacation. But something big happens next week. Next Wednesday, 24 June. That's when we drop the Musers, the podcast. The live show from the Kessler Theater in Dallas. You've heard us talking about that show. Now you get to hear it. And it drops on June 24th. That's very exciting.

[George]

Yes, very exciting.

[Craig]

The museum never heard us before. It was a great night.

[Gordon]

Marking our one year anniversary of doing this podcast. Can you believe we've been been at it a year?

[Craig]

Really, really fast. Well, it's made easy by our producer, Peter Welton. Thank you, Peter. You can email us at the Musers pod gmail. We'll talk to you next time on the Musers the podcast.

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