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The Nourished CEO Podcast
Hosted by Laura Schoenfeld · EN
The Nourished CEO is the podcast for ambitious coaches, wellness practitioners, and online business owners who are done choosing between success and self-care.
Hosted by business strategist and mentor Laura Schoenfeld, this show is your permission slip to build a wildly profitable business and a deeply nourishing life.
Each episode dives into the strategies, mindset shifts, and behind-the-scenes realities of what it takes to grow a thriving business while honoring your energy, your values, your family, and your life outside of work.
Through honest solo episodes and inspiring guest interviews with industry experts and real clients, you'll hear powerful stories and practical insights about what's actually working to create sustainable income and impact without burnout.
Whether you're in the messy middle of growth or refining a business that already supports your lifestyle, The Nourished CEO will help you design success on your own terms, and love the life you're living along the way.
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Systems Over Hustle: How High-Achieving Women Reach Their Goals Without Burning Out with Dr. Tiffany Shelton
2d ago00:55:24Tap to summarizeWhat if the reason your systems keep collapsing isn't that you picked the wrong tool, but that you built them for a version of yourself who never gets tired, never gets interrupted, and never has a kid walk into the room mid-meeting? In this episode I'm talking with Dr. Tiffany Shelton, a neuropsychologist and published author who has spent over a decade helping ambitious women build what she calls a sustainable hustle. We get into why productivity advice built for machines falls apart for real women with real lives, and what it looks like to build systems from a human-first place instead. We cover the goal work that has to come before any tactic, the concept of defining your "enough" so rest stops feeling like something you have to earn, how to find the actual bottleneck in your business the way an engineer finds it on a factory floor, and the two systems Tiffany won't let a client leave without. If your business is technically working but you're exhausted by it, or you've quietly been chasing a revenue number that never actually felt like yours, this conversation will give you a steadier way to think about how you run your days. Timeline Highlights [00:03] – Tiffany's origin story: the shift from running on coffee and late nights to actually needing systems after becoming a mom [00:07] – Why going from one kid to two ends the "make it work in the margins" era for good [00:08] – What "putting out fires" actually looks like day to day, and the difference between reactivity and intentionality [00:09] – Slow down to speed up: the goal system Tiffany builds before any tactic, using the bow-and-arrow metaphor [00:15] – Why chasing a bigger revenue number often masks a safety need, and the hedonic treadmill that keeps high achievers stuck [00:17] – Defining your "enough" so white space and rest become claimable instead of guilt-ridden [00:20] – The human-first approach to productivity, and why building systems that expect you to be a robot guarantees they break [00:22] – How to tell when you've crossed from resourceful and committed into burning out [00:25] – Finding the real bottleneck with a process map across the four engines of your business [00:33] – Where AI actually belongs in your systems, and why neither Laura nor Tiffany uses it to create content from scratch [00:41] – Forming white space as a genuine habit, starting at 30 minutes and letting the hard emotions come along [00:48] – The two must-have systems: task management and time management, and the capture habit that empties your brain Top Quotes from the Episode "I went from a need to just be productive to actually needing systems, because I couldn't rely on push-through and coffee anymore." "You have to pull the arrow back slowly, aim, breathe, and then let go. Slow down to speed up, and it flies straight to the target." "The money is usually the top layer, and it's usually a safety thing. What keeps you fueled lives underneath it." "You can be on the treadmill chasing more and more, or you can take a walk in the park, sit on the bench, and rest because you already know you're enough." "Productivity isn't supposed to turn you into a robot. Your systems are going to break, so build them expecting it." "When you contain your time, you reclaim your time." "Your brain is for having ideas, not for storing them. If you're a high-level woman, running your life on sticky notes and random apps just isn't enough." Links & Resources Take the "What's Your CEO Type?" Quiz Dr. Tiffany Shelton on YouTube (over 40,000 subscribers) Dr. Tiffany Shelton's free White Space GPT (link shared in the episode) Getting Things Done by David Allen The One Thing by Gary Keller Essentialism by Greg McKeown The 12 Week Year by Brian Moran Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell Fair Play and Unicorn Space by Eve Rodsky Follow the podcast, leave a review if it lands, and share it with someone who's ready to build a business that actually holds up.
Transcribe →How to Build Multiple Streams of Income with Katie Dodd
1w ago00:58:39Tap to summarizeWhat happens when you realize the career you trained for, spent years and real money on, was only ever showing you one narrow path out of a hundred? This week I'm talking with Katie Dodd, a Registered Dietitian who stumbled into entrepreneurship by sitting next to the right person on a plane. That one conversation led to a contract, a contract led to freelance work, and freelance work eventually became three brands and a stack of income streams that pay her whether she's working or not. We get into what a side hustle actually is, why it doesn't have to be a bridge out of your job, and the difference between active and passive income that most people misunderstand. Katie also walks through how she built all of it one thing at a time, refusing to start the next brand until the first one hit a real revenue goal. She's honest about the part that doesn't sell well: it took eighteen months of building before the money got good, with about $67 in the first six months. If you've ever felt boxed in by your credentials, or you're holding an idea you keep deciding is too out there, this conversation will widen what feels possible. Timeline Highlights [04:22] – How Katie fell into side hustling by sitting next to a dietitian on a plane [04:57] – Realizing she'd been an entrepreneur all along without the label [12:37] – What a side hustle actually is, and why it doesn't have to be a bridge out [16:36] – The lake analogy: why multiple income streams create real security [18:16] – Active versus passive income, and why passive isn't free money [20:34] – Three brands, and the discipline of building one at a time [27:03] – Why she built traffic first, before any products existed [32:35] – Letting go of the identity that says you have to do direct client work [44:31] – How long it actually took to monetize, and the $67 first six months [48:34] – Why mindset and the right rooms matter more than any single tactic Top Quotes from the Episode "Imagine a lake fed by only one stream. If that stream dries up, the lake runs dry. Multiple streams mean it keeps going." "Passive income isn't free money. You create something once, build the systems to drive people to it, and then it works while you're not showing up every day." "If something pops into my head, I get it out of my head and onto paper, so I can really focus on what matters." "I had to let go of the identity that to be a healthcare provider, I have to be giving direct care to people." "Eighteen months sounds like no big deal now, but that's a long time I invested in work that wasn't making money in the moment." "If you get started, it's possible. If you keep going and don't give up, it's probable." Links & Resources CEO Type Quiz Katie Dodd's book, Dietitian Side Hustle (also on Amazon in hardcover, paperback, Kindle, and Audible) Katie's Linktree Dietitian Side Hustle podcast (new episodes every Wednesday) Katie on Instagram: @thekatiedodd The Geriatric Dietitian and High Calorie Recipes (Katie's other two brands) Follow the podcast, leave a review if it lands, and share it with someone who's sitting on an idea they keep talking themselves out of.
Transcribe →The Antisocial Strategy: How Holly Haynes Grew to Seven Figures Barely Using Social Media
2w ago00:50:21Tap to summarizeWhat if the reason your content feels exhausting isn't that you're doing it wrong, but that the entire platform was built to make you disappear the moment you stop feeding it? This week I'm talking with Holly Haynes, who built a seven-figure business while barely touching social media. She calls it the antisocial strategy, which is a bit of a joke, because what she does is deeply social. It's just not the scroll. We get into her three-part model of a long-form home base, an email engine, and a visibility engine, and why leads from that ecosystem convert faster than anything coming cold from an ad. We also go deep on the part that's newly urgent: how SEO and the emerging GEO side of things get you recommended by AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude when people search for answers, and how Holly uses AI to repurpose her work without flattening her voice into the generic content you can smell from a mile away. She runs all of it in about 20 hours a week, with twin daughters and a family rule about a real vacation every quarter. If you're burnt out chasing an algorithm that forgets you exist the second you log off, this conversation lays out a steadier way to be found. Timeline Highlights [05:14] – What the antisocial strategy actually is, and why "antisocial" is very social [05:25] – Losing 20,000 followers to a hack, and the data that changed Holly's whole approach [09:47] – Why this is the OG method: blogs, newsletters, and long-form content coming back [09:47] – The three-part model: home base, email engine, visibility engine [12:21] – How inbound search became Holly's number two lead source, behind podcasting [16:01] – Picking two topics and staying in your lane so AI and humans both know what you're known for [18:05] – The "moments document" and why personal stories outperform dry how-to content [20:13] – Starting with your words first, then AI, and building a skill to catch what sounds like AI [24:54] – Auditing where sales actually come from, and turning off leaky funnels [44:44] – The first steps out of the social media hamster wheel Top Quotes from the Episode "When I looked at my data, 71% of my sales were coming from email. So why was I spending all that time making reels for nothing?" "A healthy business is one that isn't reliant on social media, and there are so many cool ways to do that now." "People aren't really scrolling for answers anymore. They open whatever AI app they use and ask it a question, and we want our information to pop up." "It starts with my words. I may run them through Claude for show notes or a title, but the raw material is always me." "I would so much rather have valuable long-form content that lasts a long time than 27 pieces of little content that aren't doing anything." "Pick one visibility channel and try it for 90 days, because this is a long-term strategy. It takes a minute." Links & Resources CEO Type Quiz Holly Haynes' website Crush the Rush podcast (Holly's show) Claude SEO/GEO audit tip: open a chat and ask it to run an SEO and GEO audit on your website Follow the podcast, leave a review if it lands, and share it with someone who's tired of posting into the void.
Transcribe →Rest as a Revenue Strategy with Kristin Brabant
3w ago01:06:22Tap to summarizeWhat if the reason your revenue feels capped isn't that you're working too little, but that you've never been taught how to rest in a way that actually feeds the business? This week I'm talking with Kristin Brabant, who helps ambitious women business owners scale their revenue while resting more. We get into why rest is far more subjective than most of us assume, the seven different types of rest most high achievers neglect, and how the old "outwork everyone in the room" model breaks down the moment your life gets bigger than your calendar can hold. Kristin walks through her zone of genius framework and the four-quadrant sorting process she uses to pull clients out of their golden handcuffs, plus the real story of a client who scaled from 750K to past a million in revenue while shutting down work at 5:30 every day and taking monthly getaways. If you've hit a number that impresses everyone around you but leaves you feeling like you're dying, this conversation will reframe what growth is actually supposed to cost you. Timeline Highlights [01:59] – How "outwork everybody in the room" gets inherited, and why it eventually stops working [22:38] – Defining rest, and why the same activity recharges one person and drains another [24:58] – The litmus test for whether something counts as rest for you specifically [27:11] – The seven types of rest most high achievers completely overlook [33:37] – The brain chemistry behind why rested people see opportunity everywhere [35:59] – Why Kristin starts every rest strategy with a client's zone of genius [37:51] – The four-quadrant framework: incompetence, competence, excellence, genius [39:17] – Golden handcuffs, and why your zone of excellence is the trap [47:36] – The belief that resting will tank your income, and where it comes from [51:38] – The client who scaled past a million while working less Top Quotes from the Episode "When we don't rest, our brains are designed to focus only on what's in front of us, and what's in front of us is almost always a fire." "When you're rested, your aperture of what's possible opens up. You see the opportunities and the helpers you couldn't see while running on cortisol and adrenaline." "Your zone of excellence is your golden handcuffs. You get paid so well for it that you stop noticing it's draining you." "The clue that you've found your zone of genius is that it's so easy for you, you assume everybody can do it." "We tested it bit by bit. Step away this weekend, shut down at 5:30 instead of midnight. She did fewer things, and the fewer things she focused on drove a lot more revenue." Links & Resources CEO Type Quiz Kristin Brabant's website and newsletter The Art of Rest: How to Find Respite in the Modern Age by Claudia Hammond The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks (origin of the zone of genius concept) Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith's 7 Types of Rest Framework™ Follow the podcast, leave a review if it lands, and share it with someone who's running on fumes and calling it ambition.
Transcribe →Your Voice Is Your Most Valuable Business Asset with Heather Sager
Jun 2301:04:20Tap to summarizeWhat if the thing keeping your content from landing isn't a missing strategy or the wrong platform, but the gap between how you actually communicate in real life and how you show up online? In this episode, I sit down with my friend Heather Sager, a high-performance coach for visionary and visible leaders who's got more than 1500 stages under her belt, to talk about why your voice is the most underrated asset in your business and what it takes to use it well. We get into what congruency actually means in your content, why short-form video is humbling even the most experienced speakers right now, and the concept Heather calls "creative atrophy", which is the subtle erosion happening in business owners who outsource their thinking to AI before they've done the work to clarify their own ideas. If you've been feeling like your content sounds flatter than it used to, or like you can't quite articulate the new direction your business is heading, this conversation will give you a much clearer picture of what's actually going on and what to do about it. Timeline Highlights [00:00] – Why I clicked on Heather's "I just told a bunch of business owners to take a dump" post and knew I had to have her on the show [03:01] – Heather's story of being a shy kid who became a person whose voice is her business [09:20] – The skill Heather didn't realize was unique until she'd spent years developing it [12:31] – Why questioning whether your stuff is good enough is the thing keeping you stuck [16:09] – Niche transformation and why it feels harder to talk about new offers than established ones [19:32] – The difference between processing, clarifying, and articulating your ideas [24:41] – Short-form video as the humbling moment for established experts [33:42] – Why looking stupid is part of the path to mastery on any new platform [42:48] – Heather on building a business where she's the same person backstage as on stage [51:08] – Creative atrophy and what happens when AI does the thinking your brain is supposed to do [55:11] – The skill that'll separate highly paid experts from the commoditized in the next five years Top Quotes from the Episode "Your voice is your business. You're already on stages all the time. The only question is whether you're using them on purpose." "If you don't even think your stuff is good, you can't expect anyone else to see you as an authority." "Processing your ideas, clarifying your ideas, and articulating your ideas aren't the same thing. Most people treat them like they are, and that's exactly why their messaging isn't landing." "Being good at speaking off the cuff isn't a personality trait. It's a skill that gets sharper with practice and dulls when you stop using it." "You've earned the right to skip the line, but business doesn't work that way. Every new platform asks you to be a humble beginner again." "When you let AI do the thinking your brain is supposed to be doing, the part of you that generates original ideas starts to atrophy. Six months later, you can't write an email without it." "The thing that'll separate the highly paid expert from the commoditized one over the next five years isn't output. It's the willingness to keep doing the hard creative work yourself." "Show up the way you talk. Get better at talking. The right people will recognize you faster than any polished version ever could." Links & Resources Connect with Heather Sager Heather's free guide: 19 Magnetic Phrases Heather's podcast: Hint of Hustle Take the "What's Your CEO Type?" Quiz If this episode resonated with you, follow the podcast, leave a review, and share it with someone who's ready to sound more like themselves in their business.
Transcribe →What Selling a $12,000 Mastermind From Zero Taught Me About Conviction
Jun 1601:04:23Tap to summarizeWhat would it look like to sell something that doesn't technically exist yet, with no testimonials, no returning cohort, and almost no runway? That's exactly what I've been doing this month with The Decision Room, a $12,000 six-month mastermind I built from scratch and started selling before I had a single person in it. The most important thing I learned in the process had nothing to do with marketing tactics. It had everything to do with what was holding the offer up when there was nothing tangible behind it. In this episode, I'm walking you through the full behind-the-scenes of this launch: what I did that most marketers would call unhinged, the moment I almost talked myself out of running it, and the one shift that changed how I sell. If your sales have felt harder lately and you can't quite name why, this episode is going to give you a sharper way to look at the problem. Timeline Highlights [00:00] – Selling a $12,000 mastermind with no cohort, no testimonials, and a launch built almost entirely on conviction [01:10] – Why launching a mastermind from zero is one of the hardest things to sell as an online business owner [01:57] – Why declining sales at the six-figure level usually isn't a tactics problem [02:42] – The two ways conviction erodes: outgrowing your offer vs. never fully committing to it [05:54] – The Decision Room Mastermind: what it is, who it's for, and why the deadline matters [09:28] – What it meant to sell this offer when the only thing holding it up was personal belief [15:54] – Breaking the marketing rules: no launch event, no runway, no existing cohort feeding renewals [38:46] – The unconventional outreach moves: cold DMs, competitor asks, former coaches, and a networking group [50:10] – What changed when I stopped pre-deciding people's answers and started asking directly Top Quotes from the Episode "You cannot sell what you have not fully decided to sell." "When you're selling something that doesn't exist yet, the only thing carrying it in those early days is how much you believe in it." "How somebody buys from you is always a reflection of your conviction, and you can't talk your way around a belief that you don't have." "Sometimes you literally need to make less money in the short term to be faithful to the thing you're creating, so it can grow for the long run." "I stopped pre-deciding people's answers for them. I stopped assuming they'd say no. I stopped assuming they'd be weirded out. I just decided to ask." "If you can ideate something and go sell it before you've built it, you can pretty much do anything in business. That's the skill." "I named the offer after the mechanism, not the outcome, and I trusted my buyer to be smart enough to understand why that matters." Links & Resources The Decision Room Mastermind: jointhedecisionroom.com CEO Type Quiz: lauraschoenfeld.com/quiz Follow the podcast, leave a review if it resonated, and share this one with anyone who's been finding sales harder lately than it should be.
Transcribe →How Jillian Greaves Tripled Her Revenue by Making the Decisions She Couldn't Make Alone
Jun 900:48:58Tap to summarizeWhat if the thing keeping you stuck at six figures isn't a missing strategy, but a series of decisions you've been quietly putting off? In this episode, I sit down with Jillian Greaves, a functional medicine dietitian who spent two years in my mastermind during the stretch where her entire business changed. When she came to me she was doing around a hundred thousand a year and drowning, seeing clients five days a week, working every weekend, saying yes to everyone. She wasn't frozen. She was making decisions constantly. She just couldn't see the full picture of her own business, so the biggest calls kept getting parked. We walk through how she finally made them: moving off insurance and into private pay, building a structured program instead of selling sessions one at a time, adding a group offer and a low-cost entry point, and eventually hiring and training a team she trusted. Her revenue more than tripled in that first year, and she did it while working less, not more. If you're somewhere between six and multi-six figures and you've got a running list of decisions you keep meaning to make, this conversation will show you what changes when you stop deciding alone. Timeline Highlights [00:00] – Jillian on making decisions from her expertise instead of from what clients ask for [00:42] – The decision-debt framing: why you're not stuck because you can't decide, you're stuck because you can't see the full picture [06:05] – What being in the room, in person, did for Jillian that no Zoom call could [11:00] – Where Jillian started: a six-figure business that looked successful and felt like a hamster wheel [14:24] – The cost she was paying physically and the moment she knew it wasn't sustainable [17:11] – The first big shifts: a structured offer, moving to private pay, systemizing, and her first hire [22:01] – The result of those changes, including more than tripling her revenue the first year [25:01] – Building the group program and getting over the fear that people only get results one-on-one [36:11] – Hiring a practitioner team and the shift from working in the business to working on it [38:51] – What her week looks like now: a day and a half of clients, full weekends, real flex time [41:55] – Jillian's advice to her past self: don't be afraid to get in the room with people who've done it Top Quotes from the Episode "When I make changes and make decisions from the place of not having an offer just because someone said they want it, and actually creating a thoughtful offer based on my expertise and what I know is going to help people, the impact is profound." "I had zero boundaries. I was also afraid to have boundaries, like, is that going to hurt my business?" "I was carrying a really heavy stress load, even though I was so excited about the work I was doing, so proud of the work I was doing. But it just didn't feel right." "The fear and the limiting beliefs pop up and get a lot louder when I'm on the verge of doing something really big and exciting and making a really impactful change." "If you make a change and it doesn't work out, what's the worst that can happen? You make an adjustment and go in a different direction." "Putting more responsibility on the client and getting that active participation is a win-win for everyone." "Don't be afraid to invest in yourself and your business and get in the room with people that have done what you want to do. Single-handedly, it's been the best thing I did in my business." Links & Resources Apply for the Decision Room Mastermind: https://jointhedecisionroom.com (applications due June 19th) CEO Type Quiz: https://lauraschoenfeld.com/quiz Connect with Jillian Greaves: https://www.jilliangreaves.com Follow the podcast, leave a 5-star review if it lands, and share it with someone who's been carrying a decision they're ready to finally make.
Transcribe →The Growth Ceiling Diagnostic: Why You Can't See Your Own Business Bottleneck
Jun 200:54:44Tap to summarizeIf you've built a six-figure business, you know how to make money. The problem is that at some point, the strategies that got you there stopped being enough, and now you're putting in more effort than ever while the needle barely moves. In this episode, I'm walking through the Growth Ceiling Diagnostic: the five core areas of your business where a bottleneck could be hiding, and the three lens problems that are most likely distorting what you think you're seeing. Because you can't fix a bottleneck you're misdiagnosing, and when you're this close to your own business, you're almost always misdiagnosing it. This episode was originally a Substack Live, and it's the exact kind of diagnostic work I do with clients inside The Decision Room Mastermind. If you're an established founder who keeps circling the same decisions and you're ready to actually break through, this one's for you. Timeline Highlights [00:00] – Why working harder isn't moving the needle for six and seven-figure founders [02:00] – The real reason the ceiling feels invisible: being too close to your own business to see it accurately [06:00] – Introducing the three diagnostic lenses: belief, knowledge, and decision [09:00] – Why the knowledge trap is dangerous and when more information actually is the problem [11:00] – The five core areas where bottlenecks show up: identity, offer, sales, messaging, systems [13:00] – Identity as a bottleneck: how self-knowledge gaps and misaligned beliefs run the business from the background [17:00] – Offer bottlenecks: the kitchen sink offer, the belief that clients need unlimited access to you, and how both stall growth [21:00] – A personal example: shutting down a multimillion-dollar program and what that decision unlocked [25:00] – Sales bottlenecks: how unfounded beliefs about audience readiness suppress conversion before a sale is even attempted [29:00] – Messaging in 2026: why market sophistication has outpaced most people's messaging, and what AI can't fix [34:00] – Systems as a bottleneck: the cost of keeping everything running through you [38:00] – Self-diagnosis questions for each of the five areas [42:00] – Why you can't find the real bottleneck alone, and what to do about it [45:00] – The Decision Room Mastermind: who it's for and what we're doing inside Top Quotes from the Episode "The fact that you're so close to your business is exactly what makes the real constraint invisible to you. You think you're seeing the problem. You're just seeing the filter." "You cannot read the label from inside the prescription bottle. This isn't about intelligence or capability. It's literally just how your brain works when it's this close to something." "AI works on a law of averages. It buffs the edges off your messaging and makes you sound like everyone else. The precision has to come from you." "A belief problem doesn't mean you're broken. It means you're swimming in water you can't see because it's your environment. Someone else has to point it out." "Mediocre messaging isn't going to work in 2026. The market has gotten more sophisticated and most people's messaging hasn't come with it." "The founders who break through plateaus are the ones who get clear on what's actually running the show behind their business, then have the courage and clarity to actually change it." "When you fix a bottleneck, you'll find another one. That's how business works. The goal is to find the biggest one and give it your full attention so the effort you're putting in is actually landing." Links & Resources CEO Type Quiz: lauraschoenfeld.com/quiz Apply to The Decision Room Mastermind (open through June 19, 2026): jointhedecisionroom.com Instagram: @laura.schoenfeld If this episode gave you a clearer picture of where you're stuck, share it with a founder who's been circling the same decisions, and follow the podcast so you don't miss what's next.
Transcribe →The Decision Debt Audit: What Indecision Is Actually Costing Your Business
May 2601:10:04Tap to summarizeYou already know indecision is costing you. What you probably haven't done is calculate exactly how much. In this episode, I'm walking you through the decision debt audit, a structured process I built after watching highly capable, established business owners sit stuck on the same decisions for months. We're going through five categories of common business decisions, attaching real dollar amounts to the ones that have been sitting unresolved, and diagnosing the specific blocks keeping each one open. If you've been meaning to make a decision that keeps getting pushed, this is the episode that will finally move it. Timeline Highlights [00:00] – Why indecision is a business expense and how to calculate the true cost of decision debt [02:24] – What the decision debt audit is and who it's built for [04:22] – Why highly capable, multi-six-figure entrepreneurs are the ones most affected by open decisions [06:35] – How to run the audit: grab your notebook and open to a fresh page [08:25] – Category 1: Offer and program structure decisions that haven't been finalized [10:51] – Category 2: Pricing decisions, including overdue price increases and underpriced offers [13:32] – Category 3: Team and operations, from underperforming hires to missing SOPs [15:55] – Category 4: Marketing and messaging, platform decisions, launch plans, and content that hasn't shipped [18:45] – Category 5: Big-picture business model and direction decisions [21:17] – How to calculate the dollar cost of each open decision and total your decision debt balance [35:06] – The seven blocks that keep smart entrepreneurs in decision paralysis [49:20] – Solo problems vs. room problems: how to know which intervention you need [01:00:21] – Introducing The Decision Room mastermind and what it's designed to do Top Quotes from This Episode "Your business moves at the speed of the slowest decision you're not making." "The cost of staying stuck in indecision looks completely different once you see the actual dollar amount. It's just another line item on your P&L." "The information you actually need to make a better decision lives on the other side of making the next best decision. You won't get it until you take action." "You cannot read the label from inside the bottle. That's what happens when you're making decisions that require objective input and a perspective you don't have access to from where you're standing." "Unmade decisions don't stay neutral. They accumulate. They compound. And at best, next year's version of that number stays the same. More likely, it grows." "The smartest people struggle most with indecision because they see too many angles. The people who don't struggle are usually the ones who aren't seeing the full picture." "A decision that feels like a verdict on your identity is almost never actually about the decision. It's about what your brain has decided that choice means about who you are." Links & Resources The Decision Room Mastermind – Apply Now (applications close June 19th or when 15 spots fill) Previous episode: Why Smart Entrepreneurs Struggle to Make Decisions DM me MASTERMIND on Instagram @laura.schoenfeld Take the CEO Type Quiz If this episode landed, follow the podcast, leave a review, and send it to a business owner who's been putting off a decision they already know the answer to.
Transcribe →How to Find Your Distinctive Edge in a Saturated Market with Megan Yelaney
May 1900:48:14Tap to summarizeWhat if the reason your messaging stopped converting isn't that your strategy is off, but that you've slowly diluted yourself into something so safe and palatable that no one can tell why they should pick you? Today I'm joined by messaging expert Megan Yelaney, a business strategist who has worked with over a thousand coaches to help them find what she calls their distinctive edge. We talk about the slow drift into vanilla messaging that happens to most experienced business owners after big growth or big life changes, why courses and evergreen funnels stopped feeling right for both of us after becoming moms, and how Megan rebuilt her entire business around the one thing she always loved doing. We also get into the difference between a niche and an edge, why your pre-business life is one of the most underused parts of your story, and how to translate something complex about who you are into a marketable phrase that people actually understand. Megan even runs a mini coaching session on me in real time to show how this works, which was both clarifying and slightly humbling. If you've been feeling like your content sounds like everyone else's, or like you've lost the thread of what made people choose you in the first place, this conversation will give you a way back to it. Timeline Highlights [00:00] – Why polished messaging often signals that something deeper is off [03:43] – Megan's journey from network marketing to health coaching to building a multi-million dollar business [07:11] – What happened when business success and a struggling marriage collided [08:22] – The trap of "vanilla messaging" and how disclaimer culture diluted her brand [09:27] – The identity shift after becoming a mom of twins, and why the prepared business model didn't fit anymore [14:30] – Why the course-and-funnel model felt off even when it theoretically should have worked [19:08] – The exact framework Megan uses to find a distinctive edge: story, framework, and ideal client [22:25] – The simple client audit exercise that surfaces the through line in your work [28:58] – Why personality and approach often matter more than uniqueness of method [38:30] – Megan coaches me live on identifying my own domino belief [44:00] – Why you need to give yourself permission to experiment with messaging language Top Quotes from the Episode "Your message gets so diluted and so vanilla because you're trying not to offend anyone, and the result is you stop sounding like yourself entirely." "I had built a business around the person I used to be when I was coaching, and the second I came back from maternity leave I realized I didn't want to talk about any of it anymore." "If someone landed on your page right now, would they be able to say what you do differently or why they would choose you over anyone else? If the answer is no, that's the work." "Your distinctive edge is the trifecta of your story, your framework, and your ideal client. There's never going to be a copy of all three at once." "You don't have to reinvent the wheel for your method to be unique. The personality you bring, the approach you take, and the lived experience behind it are doing more of the work than the framework itself." "Most people try to leave their pre-business life out of their story, when that's actually the part that makes them the obvious choice over someone without that background." "If you're not excited at the thought of making twenty or thirty thousand a month from this offer, then it's not just a money problem. The offer itself isn't right." Links & Resources Megan's Main Character Energy private podcast series Follow Megan on Instagram Megan's podcast, Business Not As Usual (where Laura was a recent guest) CEO Type Quiz: https://www.lauraschoenfeld.com/quiz If this conversation gave you something to work with, follow the podcast, leave a review if it lands, and send it to someone whose messaging has been feeling a little too safe lately.
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