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The Path to Exit
Hosted by Vista Point Advisors · EN
Learn what software and technology founders needs to know as they grow their business towards an eventual M&A transaction.
In this podcast, Mike Lyon from Vista Point Advisors chats with tech founders and the VPA team to address questions like:
- What is the process for selling a software or internet business?
- What drives the valuation of a SaaS business?
- What are my different transactions options?
- And more.
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About VPA
Vista Point Advisors is a founder-focused investment bank that advises software & internet founders through M&A and capital raise transactions. We are a fully unconflicted investment bank who only works for founders on the sell-side, so you know that we’re always representing your interests.
If you have any questions about the process of selling your business or raising capital, reach out to a member of our team. Or check out the For Founders section of our site by visiting https://vistapointadvisors.com/for-founders.
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32 | How to Navigate Exclusivity with Buyers & Investors
Sep 1600:17:42Summary readyWhen founders lack experience in selling a business, they’ll often accept what buyers lead with, especially the demand for an exclusivity period. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Bean break down why buyers push for exclusivity, the real motivations behind their request, and how to navigate the conversation in a way that preserves your leverage throughout the negotiation.Vista Point Advisors is a boutique sell-side investment bank providing unconflicted M&A and capital raising advice to founder-led software, AI, and internet businesses. We partner with entrepreneurs of growing businesses to help them understand their options in the marketplace so they can maximize business value, leverage their options, and realize their ideal outcomes. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary31 | The Hidden Risks of Minority Investments for SaaS Founders
Aug 1900:18:15Summary readySaaS founders often lean toward pursuing a minority deal when looking to raise capital because they believe it means they can maintain control of the business and take advantage of current growth and future upside in their equity ownership, but it’s not that simple. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Scott Austin unpack the common misconceptions founders have about minority deals, why they often come with more strings attached than expected, and how founders can help set themselves up for a better eventual exit.Vista Point Advisors is a boutique sell-side investment bank providing unconflicted M&A and capital raising advice to founder-led software, AI, and internet businesses. We partner with entrepreneurs of growing businesses to help them understand their options in the marketplace so they can maximize business value, leverage their options, and realize their ideal outcomes. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary30 | How to Help Prevent a Retrade When Selling Your Business
Jul 15, 202500:27:46Summary readyRetrades are when a buyer or investor tries to renegotiate the valuation price or key terms after a deal is agreed—and it’s always to the founder’s disadvantage. It’s one of the most frustrating risks in M&A, often surfacing late in the process, when founders have already invested significant time, energy, and focus into a buyer. In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Koons break down why retrades happen, what they look like in practice, and most importantly, how founders can help guard against them.Vista Point Advisors is a boutique sell-side investment bank providing unconflicted M&A and capital raising advice to founder-led software, AI, and internet businesses. We partner with entrepreneurs of growing businesses to help them understand their options in the marketplace so they can maximize business value, leverage their options, and realize their ideal outcomes. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary29 | How PE Fund & Partner Dynamics Impact Their Bids for Your Business
Jun 17, 202500:18:12Summary readyUnderstanding the internal dynamics of a PE fund—such as where it is in its lifecycle, who is championing the deal, and how decisions are made—is critical for evaluating the strength and seriousness of their bid for your business. The most attractive buyer on paper may be structurally incapable of closing a deal due to internal constraints. In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Mike Greco discuss how private equity fund dynamics can impact the quality of their bid—from how serious it is, to its structure, to the risk of closing.Vista Point Advisors is a boutique sell-side investment bank providing unconflicted M&A and capital raising advice to founder-led software, AI, and internet businesses. We partner with entrepreneurs of growing businesses to help them understand their options in the marketplace so they can maximize business value, leverage their options, and realize their ideal outcomes. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary28 | Why Sell Your SaaS Business When You’re Winning?
May 13, 202500:16:12Tap to summarizeWhy would a founder sell their business when it’s thriving? It’s a question we hear often—and what we call the “entrepreneur’s dilemma.” In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Bean unpack why selling during a growth phase, though counterintuitive, can lead to better outcomes. They discuss how buyers value momentum, the risks of holding on too long, and how founders can maximize value by leaning into growth.Vista Point Advisors is a boutique sell-side investment bank providing unconflicted M&A and capital raising advice to founder-led software, AI, and internet businesses. We partner with entrepreneurs of growing businesses to help them understand their options in the marketplace so they can maximize business value, leverage their options, and realize their ideal outcomes. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Transcribe →24 | The Subjectivity of Valuation in SaaS M&A
Jan 21, 202500:17:04Summary readyMany SaaS founders view valuation as a straightforward calculation of their company's worth, but it’s far more nuanced. Software valuation often depends on the perspectives of individual buyers, leading to significantly different outcomes. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Scott Austin explore why valuation in SaaS M&A is inherently subjective, how different buyers assess value differently, and what this means for founders navigating the sale of their business.Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary23 | Strategies for Selling Your SaaS Company to a Competitor
Dec 18, 202400:27:59Summary readyFounders are often hesitant to include competitors in the process when looking to sell their business. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Koons discuss some key strategies for assessing the risks and rewards of including competitors on the list of potential buyers, as well as ways to help protect yourself and your company throughout the process.Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary22 | Balancing SaaS Growth: Upselling vs. New Customer Acquisition vs. Pricing
Nov 12, 202400:19:02Summary readyThere are three primary vectors SaaS founders use to grow their business: upselling to existing customers, acquiring new customers, and raising prices. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Mike Greco discuss the pros and cons of each, particularly through the lens of raising capital or selling your business.Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary21 | How to Structure & Manage a SaaS Board of Directors
Oct 15, 202400:22:00Summary readySaaS founders often have a love-hate relationship with their boards of directors, finding them alternatively invaluable or frustrating. Creating and managing a cohesive, effective board can be a daunting task. In this episode, Sterling Lanier—recurrent board member and co-founder—joins Mike Lyon to share insights on how SaaS founders can help build and lead a high-performing board of directors, ensuring alignment and effectiveness for the company’s growth.Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Summary20 | Understanding SaaS FinTech & Payments Opportunities with Utopaya
Sep 10, 202400:21:43Summary readyA significant trend SaaS founders are facing is integrating fintech products into vertical businesses, particularly payments. In this episode, Brian Abernethy from Utopaya joins Mike Lyon to discuss considerations for founders thinking about the payments opportunity, when to pursue it or not, and why it’s valuable to private equity firms and buyers. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
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