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The Promote Podcast
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Your Commercial Real Estate Insider guide. From profiles of the biggest dealmakers to skyline-shaping transactions, we bring you the deals, breakdowns and war stories that move the market — for insiders, by insiders. From bad-boy guarantees to CMBS tranche warfare to syndicator sins, we cover it all.
Each week, The Promote Podcast explores three of the most interesting and consequential stories in CRE, taking you well beyond the headlines and into the heart of the action. Hosted by the award-winning “Bard of CRE,” Hiten Samtani, along with no-BS institutional insider Will Krasne. Now a top 80 pod on Apple in "Business & Investing." Also check out our 3x/week newsletter for industry insiders at https://www.thepromote.com/
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Reubens on Rye and Apollo's Divine NNNtervention
Mar 2500:35:24Summary readyThis week, we dive into the life & times of two quintessential Men with Deep Pockets: Billionaire British Brothers David & Simon Reuben have become some of the most aggressive buyers of trophy hotel and retail assets across the country – many of them in various states of undress & distress. We then look at Apollo’s new NNN partnership with Realty Income - an alliance that says much about how both AUM Gobblers and vanilla REITs are saying they’ve got what the other needs. And finally, failed mega-retailer JCPenney is now the scene of a bruising battle with a jilted would-be buyer. Plus, our "Punch List" rundown of the newsiest industry happenings: retail titan David Simon dies; Fannie & Freddie stocks freefall; Iran conflict raises questions about the Middle East's biggest CRE allocators.Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.com2) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:You May Never See Us Again: The Barclay Dynasty:The Reuben Brothers’ self-described “black sheep” steps upPack up your roubles ...Inside Reuben Brothers’ NYC shopping spreeApollo To Invest $1B In 500 Realty Income Single-Tenant PropertiesPrivate Credit’s Manifest Destiny From Investment to Savings: When Finance Feeds on ItselfBill Ackman Solved the Wrong ProblemGary Barnett: The Father of Billionaires' Row
SummarySavills Gobbles Eastdil & Ray Washburne's Second Helpings
Mar 1800:37:41Summary readyThis week, we dive deep into the M&A deal that's all anyone in institutional CRE can talk about. Savills – yes Savills! – is buying Eastdil Secured for $1.1B. That gives the Brits some serious capital-markets firepower stateside, but the devil lies in the details of the golden handcuffs. Next, we strap on our Lucchese boots and head to Dallas, where legendary dealmaker Ray Washburne has grand plans for a convention center. We discuss his HoF deal for Highland Park Village and how he's part of a dying breed of CRE cowboy we’re obsessed with. Plus, our "Punch List" rundown of the newsiest industry happenings: JPM marking down private-credit portfolios; BTR neutering bill passes Senate; chaos at US Attorney's office hampers mortgage-fraud investigations; and Ben Ashkenazy's big LA deal. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com2) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:The Savills-Eastdil PostgamePaper Chasers on TopRoy March Leading Voices InterviewThe Liar's BallKing of Capital: The Remarkable Rise, Fall, and Rise Again of Steve Schwarzman and BlackstoneThe New Emperor of Highland Park VillageRay Washburne on the Highland Park Deal
SummaryWartime Allocators & Rialto's Double Agent
Mar 1100:36:01Summary readyThis week, we have no choice but to tackle the topic of war. The conflict with Iran continues to roil markets and CRE's biggest allocators are in sixes and sevens. Fewer young people are going to college, which puts a big question mark on what's historically been one of the biggest drivers of real estate activity. And finally, with special servicers like Rialto continuing to play an outsized role in the market, some of their more exotic strategies are coming under a pretty harsh spotlight.Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.com2) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com To advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:Real Estate Lobby Sounds Alarm Over Forced Sale Provision In Housing BillWhat’s in the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act?Games Lenders PlayHow Jeffrey Epstein secretly backed star-studded NoMad condo project
SummaryLarry's White Whale & Jamestown Puckers Up
Mar 400:36:08Summary readyIn Ep. 50 (!), we trace Larry Silverstein's odyssey with the World Trade Center redevelopment, analyzing the new blockbuster Amex deal and the insurance, legal and financing battles that the developer has fought since 9/11. Next, we jump on our Zambonis and check out Jamestown’s push for a hockey team in Atlanta. And finally, Blackstone has a data center offering that it wants to share with the universe - of retail investors, that is. We also do a "Punch List" rundown of the newsiest industry happenings: CRE players' outsized roles in the Iran attacks; Hudson Pacific's billion-dollar losing streak; the Mamdani-Trump Sunnyside Yards bromance; and the Korein family going to the mat with Steve Roth's Vornado. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com And download their new SNF snapshot at https://bravocapital.com/the-silver-wave/ 2) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:Power at Ground Zero: Politics, Money, and the Remaking of Lower ManhattanMore Deets on 2 WTC DealJamestown Joins Bid To Lure NHL Team To North Point MallStadium ArcadiumBlue Owl Bytes the DustJon Gray Is Reshaping Blackstone Into Everybody's Investing Megastore
SummaryTimes Square Trainwreck, Royal Renters and Blue Owl Bytes the Dust
Feb 2500:39:57Summary readyThis week, we look at the tragicomedy that is TSX Broadway, the Maefield/L&L/Fortress Times Square megadevelopment that came undone and left hundreds of foreign investors in the lurch. We discuss how complex ground-up projects can lay waste to capital stacks, and what can happen between partners under pressure. We then look at the latest alarm bells ringing in the high-octane world of data center development – Blue Owl is staring down a multibillion-dollar void, and OpenAI’s marquee Stargate project has had major challenges powering up. Finally, we explore the rise of the rich renter – a trend that’s reshaping the multifamily – and condo markets.We also do a "Punch List" rundown of the newsiest industry happenings: Shvo selling Transamerica Pyramid in SF; the Kushner battle over Veris Residential; Witkoff's Roosevelt Hotel cameo; ICE's $38B warehouse shopping spree; and Stonepeak's marina moves. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.com2) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com And download their new SNF snapshot at https://bravocapital.com/the-silver-wave/To advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:Tragicomedy in Times SquareLawsuit claims Fortress, L&L owe USIF $890MSteve Witkoff’s Nine LivesBlue Owl shopped debt for a CoreWeave data center. Lenders weren't sold.Inside OpenAI’s Scramble to Get Computing Power After Stargate StalledMeet the AUM Gobblers
SummaryLimit-Up Hotel Kamikazes & AI's Brokerage Rout
Feb 1800:35:01Summary readyThis week, we dive deep into the story of Anbang Insurance, the Chinese insurer that went on an epic US trophy real estate buying spree, but flew too close to the sun. We trace the origins of Anbang's founder Wu Xiaohui, his multibillion-dollar acquisition of top US hotels include NYC's Waldorf-Astoria, and Anbang's eventual collapse and government takeover. We then talk about a rare RICO case against a notorious DC landlord, Ali "Sam" Razjooyan, and how such extreme incidents can shape landlord-tenant policy. Finally, we look at why the big CRE brokerages are seeing their stocks getting hammered by the AI question. We also do a "Punch List" rundown of the newsiest industry happenings: Sumitomo Forestry's Tri-Pointe take-private; Nuveen buying Schroeder's; Kimco's unwanted assets; Fannie looking to wet its beak on license sales; and Adam Neumann invoking the wrath of his Miami neighbors. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com2) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:Chinese Shop Trophy Hotels After Decade of PainRise of Wu Xiaohui, Anbang’s low-profile, high-octane chairmanThe Waldorf’s Makeover Went a Billion Over Budget—and China Is Footing the BillD.C. Attorney General Targets D.C. Slumlord With RICO LawsuitHow “Landlord” Became a Bad Word AI Scare Trade Wipes Out Billions From Commercial Real Estate Stocks
SummaryHouse of Brookfield, Wholesale Shopping and a Condo Buyout Coup
Feb 1100:37:38Summary readyThis week, we discuss the House of Brookfield’s new overlord: Connor Teskey has a modest target – double AUM to $2 trillion. We talk about the labyrinth that is Brookfield’s corporate structure – Bruce Flatt's not going away – and what CRE’s role in the ramp-up will be. We then look at the flurry of REIT take-privates, from Peakstone to Plymouth. And finally, we slip into resort casual and discuss a princely condo buyout payoff in West Palm Beach – the goat Steve Ross makes an appearance. We also do a "Punch List" rundown of the newsiest industry happenings: Michael Shvo's bitter breakup with German pension fund BVK; Blackstone & DivcoWest's SF triumph; and tranche warfare in the mall space. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.com2) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote Insider to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:Shvo Becomes Wurst InvestmentTop-Rated Bonds Hit Hard After Distressed Fund Seizes One of America’s Largest MallsAnthropic to take over an entire office building in downtown S.F. Brookfield revamps unusual ownership structureBook recc: The Reichmanns: Family, Faith, Fortune, and the Empire of Olympia & YorkBrookfield Lines Up a 36-Year-Old Rising Star as Next Billionaire CEOJon Gray Is Reshaping Blackstone Into Everybody's Investing MegastoreBrookfield Puts Up $173M To Refinance Brookfield Place TowerBlackstone eyes more REIT privatizations amid "lagging" public marketsInside Steve Ross’ buyout of a West Palm Beach waterfront condoPodcast: Ross takes his talents to [West Palm] Beach
SummaryApollo's Sister Act, ICE Age & the Doomed Tower of Power
Feb 400:30:09Summary readyThis week, we discuss how the Chrysler Building has laid waste to the best-laid plans of so many global titans. With Tishman Speyer reportedly coming back for another go at the Art Deco icon, we trace its rich and rollicking deal history, from Jack Kent Cooke to Abu Dhabi. We then discuss how the ICE immigration crackdown is putting another big question mark on the Sunbelt multifamily market and leaving landlords in limbo. And finally, we discuss Apollo's sister act: REIT ARI is selling its $9B loan book to insurance arm Athene, and patting itself on the back for doing so. We also do a "Pardon the Interruption" style rundown of the biggest industry happenings: Carlyle's NYC self-storage mammoth sale to StorageMart; Brookfield's misplaced OZ fund; Fed chair nominee Kevin Warsh; and Donald Bren's Chicago tower listing. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com2) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote to unlock access to expert CRE breakdowns, behind-the-deal stories, scoops, discounted swag and events and more. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:The Chrysler Building: Doomed Art Deco tower of global power How tycoon behind Chrysler Building and Selfridges was forced outCurtains for Aby at ChryslerImmigration Crackdown Creating 'Havoc' For Some Apartment OwnersMe, Myself & ApolloFrom Investment to Savings: When Finance Feeds on Itself
SummaryA Condo Kingpin’s Next Act and Proptech Falls off the Wall
Jan 2800:34:44Summary readyThis week, we discuss second acts: Ziel Feldman has left the scandal-ridden past of his glitzy New York condo development firm HFZ Capital Group behind, and he's reinvented himself as an affordable housing player through his silent partnership in GoodHomes. We trace the wild arc of his career and his far more below-the-radar new game. Proptech's loudest voice and most prolific fundraiser Fifth Wall is now yelling into the fundraising void; we talk about how the firm's issues are emblematic of the broader sector. We also do a "Pardon the Interruption" style rundown of the biggest industry happenings: S2's REIT hiccups, Charles Cohen's latest foreclosure, Willis Tower woes, and Michael Shvo's media mastery. Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.com2) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote to unlock access to expert CRE content. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening:Ziel Feldman's Next ActS2 REIT Makes Capital CallThe Ugliest Divorce in Manhattan Real EstateHow HFZ became the face of Manhattan’s condo woesFifth Wall cuts staff, pauses fundraisingFifth Wall’s Brendan Wallace On What’s Next After Closing $866M Proptech FundProptech graveyard 🪦/infirmary 🤒: Running listShvo Business
SummarySNFing out Megadeals and Syndicator Patient Zero
Jan 2100:34:32Summary readyThis week, we discuss a redemption tour by GVA’s Alan Stalcup, Patient Zero of the Sunbelt multifamily boom/bust. He’s battling PGs, LPs and maybe even the SEC, but Stalcup is unapologetic. He sat down with Hiten for a pretty unplugged conversation, and we chat through our key takeaways. We then dive into the 24-6 world of dealmaking in Skilled Nursing Facilities, a totally undercovered corner of CRE with big numbers and some batshit maneuvering. The Genesis bankruptcy case is all anyone in that world can talk about right now. We also do a "Pardon the Interruption" style rundown of the biggest industry happenings: Soho House Take II, Marty Burger's redo, Summit's Pinnacle deal going through, and a nightmare condo buyout scenario in Miami.Sponsors:1) This episode is supported by Bravo Capital, a leading HUD and bridge lender. See how their precision underwriting means quicker approvals and higher proceeds for sponsors by visiting bravocapital.com2) This episode is supported by LoanBoss, the industry-leading debt management software. Featuring one-click covenant testing, instant cash flow forecasting, and our favorite nerdy delight: Live forward curves! Check them out at loanboss.comTo advertise: Reach out to partnerships@thepromote.comFor feedback: Write us at podcast@thepromote.com And please rate us and write a review on Apple.Up your CRE game: Consider becoming a premium subscriber to The Promote to unlock access to expert CRE content. Take 10% off annual subscriptions by using this link: https://www.thepromote.com/upgrade?offer_id=b700858f-21e0-47a2-9695-a93055d3ed15Further reading/listening: The Alan Stalcup Interview: Speaking With Patient Zero of the Sunbelt Syndicator Bust The Nursing Home Power RosterLandau Fails SNF TestGenie Rubbed the Right WayDial Tress for Distress
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